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Muhammad Ali. You are, a really, intelligent person. ALHAMDULLILAH. We need, brothers like you. I'm bengali, by the way. I got your back bro. We are the first and only ethnic group, to go above the English people, in GCSE results. It was all over the British newspapers. 😂
@TheMuslimLantern Thank you for this answer but how about the Muslims that went to Al Habasha and converted to Christianity. When they returned some of them converted back to Islam and some of them didn't but they were not punished. I always understood the few people that got punished leaving Islam was because they also left the Muslim army to join the enemy. This is even punishable in all countries to this day. Can you please clarify this for me.
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 May the ONE who CREATED LIFE and DEATH AND Jesus (pbuh) guide you to His Path. The Path Jesus was sent to show you but you rather listen to Paul.
So what about the people who didn't choose Islam? Like people who were born into it, it's okay to kill them if they leave too? They didn't have a choice to become Muslim, it was their parents choice, so now you gonna kill them for wanting to leave Islam? Islam is the only religion in the world that has violent rules like this. I don't see how you can't see this is not a religion of peace.
We captured beautiful women for ransom. We decided to have sex with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). We asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born. Sahih Muslim 1438a
@@richarddawkins4607Are you really proud? Isn't it something you did for attention? Or is it something you did to think you're free to do whatever you want?
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2zif a person becomes a Muslim and then leaves Islam, then that person is not sincere to begin with. The guided are those who are sincere, and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) says that those who are arrogant will not enter paradise.
What a lovely individual. May Allah guide this indian brother. Really gives me hope for indian people, because there are a lot of respectful indians and hindus that just need guidance.
U r biggest lier if u say Islam was false after knowing it, or may be unknowingly and intentionally It's not a culture And for those non muslims who disagree on punishment, first disproove islam and after u leave islam
And if u had little of brain, u would think for a false religion to claim 100℅ true ppl first going against it will be it's own ppl, instead of following it strictly
I could see myself in place of Joshua. Very similar situation. I started respecting my parents, started really caring for them without complaining (at least I'm trying), and became more aware of my roles and responsibilities in the society after I became Muslim (in my heart). It's just that he's got more humility and sincerity than I do. May Allah guide both of us.
Don't worry even as a born muslim I struggle. I get angry at my mother and just think about apologising and I don't know how to do it and I weep silently over that (all of this feelings, respect came after taking my faith seriously alhamdulliah) may Allah guide us to the righteous path
Yes, and people of other religions who try to argue that it’s unjust are just trying to defend secularism. But in reality they don’t disagree with executing defectors of a society. Especially the Christians because they were known for dealing with people who didn’t conform to their society in that manner.
Why does this clear it up? I still do not understand it. I converted to Islam and only found out about this later. My family respected my choice of faith and I am allowed to practice and express it authentically. I wish everyone would have this right, including my own children. It is something that would prevent me from wanting to live in an Islamic country for fear of persecution to non-Muslims. Many people only worry about this kind of situation if it happens to them or someone they love. I am not like this. My empathy is too strong. Muslims who die for their faith are martyrs, it is a noble thing to do when persecuted and our faith is strong to do it. It is considered a good thing. It doesn’t make sense to treat lying about your faith as something so light and not a big deal. No one should have to choose between their faith and survival. This is just sad. I am so confused. Someone had to have been wrong 😥
@@jaciemokidm2287 I am going to be honest, I have no idea what you just yapped about. Nor, do I know why you even bothered to reply to me. I am gonna hope you're not some sort of AI chat-bot but... uh, yeah
@@jaciemokidm2287, but who will persecute someone if he does not speak about it publicly? The only reason someone does it is to spread chaos and involve others in the same. So Muhammad made it clear in the video, only those who choose to be punished will be punished.
I learned this exact answer from my mom when i was in primary school I believe those that have proper formal education of islam will not have problem explaining this matter Sadly, not many nowadays muslim have proper knowledge of islam, yet giving answers based on their opinion
@@AmicableAgnosticIn Islamic state no one is allowed to publicly announce that he has left Islam. You can keep it private, state will not care. Reason for this is: Islamic state constitution is Qur'an and Sunnah of the Prophet. Publicly renouncing Islam is like announcing renegading against community which disturbs social cohesion of the community. So Apostacy law is applied to prevent such things from happening.
@@AmicableAgnostic purpose of Apostacy law is preserve Islamic values in society as the state is based on Islam. So why do you think it's necessary for a person to come out in public about his Apostacy. Just keep it to yourself. As I said since constitution is based on Islam, publically announcing your Apostacy is like rebelling against the state itself. In today's countries it's akin to saying publicly I renounce the citizenship of this country and refuse to follow constitution. When you do this state will crack down upon you.
@@AmicableAgnostic so this shows you don't know about Islamic Apostacy law... Look I want to start with saying I understand where you coming from. Because your paradigm is different. Every ideology values it's ideology more than other and wants to limit or restrict competing values from replacing it. Example: liberals don't say just because we preach liberalism so we should allow all other preachings. They don't allow Nazism to be preached. They will censor it. Isn't that restricting their freedom. Look what happened to Kanye West. Every ideology has defined boundaries and if you cross that they will censor you or sometimes even punish you. In France Religious institution are not allowed to say LGBTQ is sin. If anyone complains their funding will be stopped. Isn't that restricting freedom? And for your info if you apostate from Islam and leave Islamic state then state will not follow you and kill you. This has happened during times of Prophet and his companions. They had left Islamic state and so they were not punished. Whoever wants to remains in the Islamic state has to respect it's values and whoever publicly renounces Islam will be considered traitor to the community. Islamic state wants to preserve its values and people leaving Islam or encouraging others to leave Islam will threaten it's power structure. Every state does this. When their power structure is threatened they will clamp down on you, censor you or arrest you. This is to preserve their Authority and social cohesion.
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2zi You do realize that Islam teachings and dawah exist in every country in the world today, right? Especially after the internet and television spread everywhere, not to mention how easy it has become to travel to any nation. So, no jihad by the sword (Using military force) isn't required anymore. Because today, Islam can reach all nations peacefully and people aren't denied access to it by any government. So, nowadays if anyone wants to learn about Islam they can simply do so.
The verse of "There is no compulsion in Islam" is a profound one which sadly even Muslims don't understand. The verse following it says, "Truth is clearly separated from error" by which Allah emphasizes the "Choice of Free will", logically. So whether before Islam or after it, there is no compulsion at all! Because whoever chooses to follow error has only committed injustice to their own self. So as the verse said "No compulsion at all!!"
Keep in mind however that 2:256 has been abrogated (Allah sends better verses, which he explains in the Quran) by verses revealed later in Surah 9 - this is explained clearly by all the important Islamic scholars in the tafsirs (else the Quran would also contradict itself), and most imams should tell you this if they have read Islamic sources. All you need to do is refer to one of the great Islamic scholars like: Ibn Kathir says "But, this verse is abrogated by the verse of "fighting...Therefore, all people of the world should be called to Islam. If anyone of them refuses to do so, or refuses to pay the Jizya they should be fought till they are k i l l e d." [Tafsir of Ibn Kathir, Al-Firdous Ltd., London, 1999: First Edition, Part 3, pp. 37-38].
So we shoulder ignore the authentic tafseers,throw away the understanding of salaf....and listen to you, right? Most muslim including scholars didn’t understand, only you understand...then what's the difference between liberalism and islam? 😂
He would be a fool to be tricked into Islam when many Muslims themselves are coming to realise that they are forced trapped in a eccentric Cult. Muhammad was a Shizophrenic conman who even declared that people could consume his urine, sweat, dirt from his nose, spit, poop etc because it was blessed. Which wretched prophet speaks such utter Nonsense to self promote himself. He even made a ridiculous Shahada self promoting himself! Muslims should study the fake Qur'an compiled 200 yrs after Muhammad. Muslims are burning alive, Slaughtering, destroying churches, stealing property of nonMuslims because Muhammad the highest robber wanted it. The Quran, a lifeless, factory made paper 📜 book is no comparison to the life of any human, not one !
The Last portion shows how kind and unique is brother Ali's Dawah , May Allah bless u and May Allah lead that guest brother to the path of truth and right ❤️.
What is stopping you from saying more than 33 times tahmid tasbih and takbir 34 times. It is only in times of after fardh and before you sleep that these limits are specified. Their may be more that I'm not aware of.
Satan controls your anus. Book: Majma' Al-Zawa’id wa Manba' Al-Fawa'id Vol: 1 By: Al-Haythami Pg 334 Hadith 1248 PEOPLE IN THE CHAIN: MEN OF AL-SAHTH Rasul Allah said: If Satan approaches one of you when you are praying and Satan open your anus. If Satan comes to you during your prayer and pulls out a hair from your anus, do no leave until you hear the sound or smell the fart coming from your anus. Hadith 1252 If Satan approaches a Muslim during prayer and he trays to end it and if any feels that Satan blows in the anus then you should not leave you smell your own fart or hear the sound of it. Abu Hurayrah Book: Al Badr al Munir Pg 300 Satan plays with the anus of the off spring of Adhaan. So is important for Muslims to say the dua: …(supplications) when entering or leaving the toilet, which are quite appropriate to the situation and place. Our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) taught us that when entering the toilet, we should say: Allaahumma innee aoodhi bika min al-khubthi wal-khabaaith (O Allah, I seek refuge with You from male and female devils). When leaving the toilet, he should say: Ghufraanak (I seek Your forgiveness). Duraat = farting And listen to the Ahadith what the teen is about the deen is about getting Shaytaan away from you. Os you know, you are going to the toilet Say: Oh Allah protect me from these devils you go in there with your left foot, the left foot you went in, you get a reward for that, the dua you said, Shaytaan will not see you. Your are in the toilet, Shaytaan can’t see you anymore, this is in the Hadith. If you don’t say the dua, what happens is the Shaytaan not only comes inside, but the Hadith of Tirmidi says he plays with your bowels. So you are inside there, your thinking your going to be out in five minutes, is taking you twenty minutes and you are not half way there… is because Shastan is pushing the shit up your anus. The Hadith says says he plays with your bowels. So if yo usay the dua, Allah protects you, then get up and do the Adhaan or something. The Hadith of Tirmidi says that the nyou say the adhaan, Shaytaan not only runs but the Hadith says duraat. He runs and he’s running as his fart comes out. If you say the Adhaan you make Shaytaan leak serious gas. Muhammad: If you say “bismillah" Satan won’t eat your food. (Riyad as-Salihin 731)
@@cascarrabias397@AG5attab Nothing worth learning in Islam. It is a bastardised version of Judaism. Muhammad even stole the Jewish Greeting 'Shalom Aleichem' to bastardised Arabic version. Muhammad was a Shizophrenic clever fraudster. Muslims are burning alive, lynching, murdering humans , burning churches. A lifeless, factory made fake Quran that can be replaced is no comparison to a living person. There is no outrage among Muslims for burning churches, murdering people for flimsy excuses! It is Muhammad who instituted this horrific custom even if it was just false allegation. It is unfortunate that inspired by Muslims, now Hindus in India and Jews are also killing, torturing Christians. They know very well a Christian respects difference of opinions and ideology and will never burn alive, Lynch humans etc .
Really enjoyed this. The guest is so gentle and polite and humble I think. And as usual, brother Muhammad has been able to provide a brilliant, honest and truly logical answers.
Brother, this was also one of my questions that was kinda in the back of my mind, so thank a lot, now i can atleast explain this when someone asks about it
Right, so you're saying that the leader should execute the apostates - people who simply do not believe in ancient supernatural nonsense and want to point out the issues with it to modern people?
@@theastronomer5800 If you live in a Muslim country, you either prove that it’s ancient supernatural nonsense in an academic setting or shut up. When your entire society is built on the Islamic faith, it’s the government’s job to not allow people to run around spouting unfounded lies in attempt to destabilize society. Heretics have been killed, maimed, jailed all over the world because of this for thousands of years. Nowadays in the ‘modern’ Western society you have people publicly spouting whatever unfounded nonsense they want and confusing the masses with lies. This would not be acceptable in the Islamic world and I believe the consequences for misleading people away from the truth should be dire.
@@theastronomer5800maybe you don't understand the meaning of an apostate. If you never accept the Islam, then you are not an apostate and there won't be any punishment.
In my comment, I did of course mean people who were brought up Muslim (by their parents, or the few converts today) but then started to use their brains, did some reading and realized that Islam is just another man-made superstition. Still, in your comment you make it clear that there will be a punishment for all the Muslims in an Islamic state who want to leave this religion. This is against basic human rights. We live in the 21st century and as people become more educated, and have access to sources, and more more leave religions behind. @@sajjadhossain8593
So choosing a different religion is equal to wanting/choosing to be killed…? No the options are, stay in this religion that you’ve decided wasn’t for you or be killed. That person is choosing to pursue a different religion, not choosing to be killed… Speaking eloquently doesn’t change the foundation of the truth.
May Allah سُبْحَانَهُۥ وَتَعَالَىٰ guide him. Allahumma Barik br Muhammad, May Allah سُبْحَانَهُۥ وَتَعَالَىٰ protect you and bless you in this life and the next!
@@Halal_Dan No compulsion in religion!! it was said by Mohammad to the quaresh tribe..But later on all of the quresh became muslims..lol How then Mohammad said to quaresh tribe that you will not worship what I worship if they all became muslims later on..lol ha ha ha..fake!!
may Joshua keep in the straight path, he looks and sounds like a good person, and admitted he's more leaned into Islam than anything, he just need that 1 day where he's *sure* and it'll be beautiful from there.
Just a question, what if India, China or other Christians countries enact similar apostasy law preventing, have capital pusnishment for non Muslim to convert to Islam to reciprocate similar law in Islam…then how those people can become Muslim???
@@purpp-esque1711 A "round earther" could be holding that belief simply because that's what he was told to believe simce he was a kid, but it is possible that he holds that belief because he understands geography. On the other hand only someone who doesn't understand geography can be a "flat earther".
Nothing worth learning in Islam. It is a bastardised version of Judaism. Muhammad even stole the Jewish Greeting 'Shalom Aleichem' to bastardised Arabic version. Muhammad was a Shizophrenic clever fraudster. Muslims are burning alive, lynching, murdering humans , burning churches. A lifeless, factory made fake Quran that can be replaced is no comparison to a living person. There is no outrage among Muslims for burning churches, murdering people for flimsy excuses! It is Muhammad who instituted this horrific custom even if it was just false allegation. It is unfortunate that inspired by Muslims, now Hindus in India and Jews are also killing, torturing Christians. They know very well a Christian respects difference of opinions and ideology and will never burn alive, Lynch humans etc .
I think the biggest part that disgruntles people about punishment with apostasy laws, is that it violates "Freedom of Conscience", which is a human right. And that the threat of NOT RETURNING is death, imprisonment, and other such punishments. And, even if you do return, you can still get ostracized for it.
Why can't all the dawah men be like you? Humble, kind and patient. I think you should open a class and teach them how to convey the message in a beautiful way like you do. Salam to all muslim bros and sists from the beautiful country of Indonesia ❤
But he doesn't state facts. For example, he brought up Q2:256 and of course won't mention that this verse has been abrogated (Allah sends better verses, which he explains in the Quran) by verses revealed later in Surah 9 - this is explained clearly by many important Islamic scholars in the tafsirs (else the Quran would also contradict itself) and many Islamic scholars today will explain this, eg: Ibn Kathir says "But, this verse is abrogated by the verse of "fighting...Therefore, all people of the world should be called to Islam. If anyone of them refuses to do so, or refuses to pay the Jizya they should be fought till they are killed." [Tafsir of Ibn Kathir, Al-Firdous Ltd., London, 1999: First Edition, Part 3, pp. 37-38].
@@theastronomer5800 please let me know which verse that you quote Ibn Kathir tafsir? I did read Ibn Kathir tafsir on verse 2:256 and he said nothing about the abrogated verse.
@@Coolpotayto Hey. It's for 2:256 and I gave the full reference where you can find it, from one source that translated the original Arabic. You must be reading the English translation available on sites like quranx, where this portion has not been translated by Safiur Rahman Mubarakpuri who is responsible for the abridged version of Tafsir Ibn Kathir widely available on the internet. I think you can go to the altafsir or shamela sites, which have the Arabic, but I'm not sure if those contain the full Arabic. Also, if you haven't, read the tafsir of Ibn Kathir for 9:5 as it's related to this topic ("This honorable Ayah (9:5) was called the Ayah of the Sword, about which Ad-Dahhak bin Muzahim said, "It abrogated every agreement of peace between the Prophet and any idolator, every treaty, and every term.'' ) and also 9:29 which is long so I won't quote it but do read it. There are many sahih hadiths of relevance as well, like: Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah, and he who professed it was guaranteed the protection of his property and life on my behalf except for the right affairs rest with Allah. - Sahih Muslim 21a Messenger of Allah: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim. - Sahih Muslim 1767a
Many flaws in Lantern response. 1. Lantern compared man made laws(democracy) to the laws made by SWT Allah. 2. If Allah already going to punish him or her for leaving the religion at the day of judgment why punish him/her in this world ? - as per Quran every nonbeliver anyways suppose to go to hell. 3. If someone is asking the person leaving religion to come back otherwise he/she will be punished, why that person or group can't wait until the natural end of his/her life, let SWT Allah take care of punishment. 4. What wiill happen to person who is punishing the apostate if the apostate decides to accept SWT Allah at the last moment of his death and died as a believer, then this will make the punisher commit sin and will get punished by SWT Allah at the day of judgment, even without his knowledge.
Masha' Allah Your words are heart-warming Whenever I see you, my brother, I pray that your intention is sincere for Allah, and that He accepts your work. You are doing a great thing so we are proud of you as Muslims..
Nothing worth learning in Islam. It is a bastardised version of Judaism. Muhammad even stole the Jewish Greeting 'Shalom Aleichem' to bastardised Arabic version. Muhammad was a Shizophrenic clever fraudster. Muslims are burning alive, lynching, murdering humans , burning churches. A lifeless, factory made fake Quran that can be replaced is no comparison to a living person. There is no outrage among Muslims for burning churches, murdering people for flimsy excuses! It is Muhammad who instituted this horrific custom even if it was just false allegation. It is unfortunate that inspired by Muslims, now Hindus in India and Jews are also killing, torturing Christians. They know very well a Christian respects difference of opinions and ideology and will never burn alive, Lynch humans etc .
@@humanrace6224 You do realize treason is punishable by death. Traitors who side with the enemy? Who seek to destroy from the inside? In the past, this is what happened. Since the ummah was small, every muslim man was a soldier. Those who leave and betray are killed. Today, those who leave can just silently leave the country, as the apostasy law is not enacted in a non sharia state.
@@humanrace6224 yes it warms heart also that islam has clear law unlike your double standard liberal cult.Freedom of speech until it doesn't fit it in the narrative.
What a lovely guy mashallah May Allah guide him and strengthen him in Iman and Islam and his family and his descendants till the end of time. And may Allah guide all the non Muslims out there who are genuinely good people with good hearts, may the Turner of Hearts bring those hearts back to Him and may all of us who are Muslim live and die upon Islam and may we all be reunited with the righteous and the Prophets under His Shade on the Day of Resurrection. Ameen. Thuma Ameen.
This Apostasy law is NOT in the Quran & it was NEVER carried out by the prophetﷺ. This law is in the hadith and widely challenged. Historically, this law was specifically for Muslims who joined the oppressor and opposing forces against Islam in order to explain to them that, in this case, they may be killed when met on the battlefield.
No compulsion in religion. Which i agree with, but if you leave and come back in one verse then allah will not accept your repentance. In other verses leaving the religion is to be punished and even leaving the religion in the hadith is to lead to execution. So is that compulsion? Yes it is, the definition of the word compulsion means to force. Its like saying that no one can force a religion on you but if you leave you will be killed for it. This does sound forced. Its like marrying someone they say that you cannot leave and force you stay with them. This kind of.philosophy creates disingenuous believers. Free will is important and.unfortuantely i have met ex muslims in iran whom tell me if they are found to be christian they are killed. No one can tell me that this is a peaceful religion if apostasy is punished by death.
I do fully agree with brother Mohammed Lantern. Certainly i dig more into it but this is what i have heard and it makes complete sense to me. There is no compulsion in Islam. Apostate are only punishable when they spread false information about Islam as people likely to belief in them since they are ex-muslim.
great exploration from our brother, I will add something here from my understanding, if we're living under Islamic state or authority and Islamic law, the law encourage the apostates people to leave the country , so they will not have punishment. in that way they have the freedom to choose and protect the Islamic society at the same time. coz no one will follow you and kill you out of the Islamic state. Eid Mubarak my brothers and sisters.
Salam alaikom..aslo..everytime has its action as to situación too.... Ie the years of famine. ..had of theft was lifted also...also example under ottomans n i think b4....there were many years ..hundreds of them with only handful huddod punsihmnets..etc... Plus...most apostasty laws r i think obligatory esp for the worst of them..n the insisting of the spreading of the falshood..ie truth and anti corrupción needs to be dealt with jsut like cáncer for sake of all... Allah knows best... Peace justis n mercy for .mankind
Why does Islamic society need to be protected? If it really is God’s religion, then it is pretty weak to be threatened by some guy with internet access.
@@farihasumaiya I got a question, first of all, I’m a complete ignorant and a lot of people knows more than me that’s why I’m asking. Isn’t Allah the one who decides who’s able to really see? Then wouldn’t it mean that if a person leaves Islam, it’s actually Allah who decides who is gifted with the capacity of seeing the truth? Isn’t Allah the judge that will judge them and punish them when their time comes? If we are certain about what we follow it’s the truth, what’s the issue of people that are dubious on leaving Islam for being influenced by others? Maybe that’s the way it should be and people that are not genuinely Muslim, are condemned to leave because of their weak faith. If an Apostate is killed, wouldn’t it mean that we are taking away from this person the opportunity to in a future, reverting back to Islam again and maybe that journey is something that made their faith stronger? I saw a video on someone explaining that people don’t understand the CONTEXT in which those Hathids were written, because being an APOSTATE nowadays is not the same as being an APOSTATE at those times, where leaving Islam didn’t only mean that you changed your faith, but actually meant that this person might join the enemy tribe with whom they were in constant war and persecution, and maybe reveal secrets that will give an advantage to the enemy in case of war. So it didn’t mean a threat to the religion but a threat to the lives of others. And maybe that’s the reason why THIS law is different to men, and women? Knowing that in terms of faith, there is no difference between men and women in order to go to jannah? And I’m not even talking about the “there should not be any compulsion in religion” which I believe it’s very important. And something related to this; If when a non Muslim decides to join Islam, is not said that he is CONVERTING, but instead he is REVERTING. Meaning that he once was Muslim, wouldn’t it mean that even a person that is a non Muslim, can be considered to as an ex Muslim?
@@Sammuel.98 1- allah decides who to see, and he lets the people who wants to see to see 2- second notice that these laws are only in sharia countries? Do you know that there is no sharia country in the world? So if a sharia country existed, there wouldn’t be influence to make you leave the religion 3- if someone left the religion in a sharia country, they will talk it to him and explain his misconceptions, allah said that no one who has a pure soul would learn about his religion fully and still deny it, they did then they know its the truth deep down, so they are guilty, and notice that is about non muslims, becoming an ex muslim is even harder than just simply denying islam without ever joining it 4- the apostate law only includes people who admit it publicly, which means these people want to cause fitnah, and weaken the faith of others, before the apostate law was given to us in islam, the hypocrites started leaving islam on the night and joining it on the morning, this spreading a fitnah and made people leave and join islam even on stomping their toe 5- “there is no compulsion in religion doesn’t mean religion is a joke, and you can’t punish an apostate who us secretly one, which means this law is specifically for the public ones And furthermore, some statements aren’t for every situation, if jesus said “i love everyone” does that mean he loves bad people? 6- the reason a none muslim isn’t considered an apostate is because he was changed by his parents, which means he didn’t become an ex with his will
This us how we must learn to give dawah. No watering down, mocking, nor forcing . Just gently speaking the truth with common sense n wisdom. May Allaah grant me the knowledge
@@AmicableAgnostic They're not innocent though, they're leaving Islam and spreading corruption in the land, which is a sin, and punishment under the shariah is death. Now you may disagree with that but that is your opinion, fact is according to the law he's guilty. I'll give an example so that you can understand better. In some country weed is legal, in some it's illegal and you could face capital punishment, doesn't make the guy having weed in a country that deemed it illegal not guilty, he's 100% guilty.
@@neku2741 He is guilty sure, doesn’t make the law unjust. Someone hiding Jews from the Nazis was guilty under German law but I wouldn’t say that law is good.
2:12 How is it a choice if you were born into and grew up in a Muslim family? When does a person like that make a choice to enter Islam? 4:21 So if someone asks you why you stopped praying, fasting, etc and you tell them you don't believe in Islam anymore, how in the world is that incitement?
If you are born a muslim, which means you are born on your natural disposition, and since these laws only work in a sharia country, it means you probably will be taught about the religion properly, then you probably won’t have misconceptions about it, if they had, then they should ask about them, So yea he already entered islam before birth The reason people who are born on other religions are ok is because they were born muslims but changed by their parents On the other hand a one who isn’t changed by his parent is a muslim
On the second point, if its his secret then save it, the apostate law, the zina law, and other laws like that are actually put to stop the action from being normalized or spread, so you need four witnesses to it Which means if you saw people do zina, you can’t tell the government about them unless three other witnesses saw them too Which means only the ones who will publicly admit and want to cause fitnah will get punished And this applies to apostasy too
@@cyberWarrior7519 You said the answers to my questions are simple, yet answered neither at all. Where did the person born into a Muslim family make the CHOICE to enter Islam? And how does telling someone you left Islam when it comes up in conversation constitute as INCITEMENT?
The problem is not with the democracy...the problem is the religious law....he is asking about freedom of thought , anyone can left their religion in non Islamic countries without any punishment.....why not in Islamic countries or law ..where is d freedom of thought ..
@@karimmezghiche9921lol.... what is the punishment for Apostasy ( a person who renounces a religious or political belief or principle. abandoning a religious or political belief or principle.) and atheist( a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods) according to Quran .
freedom is not a only determinant of good or bad. You can't claim that secular government uphold to just or true system just because they are irreligious
That "choice" isn't granted to people born into the religion. And it's disgusting to force someone to stay Muslim when a person's beliefs are NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
I don’t feel like that’s fair to say a country can’t forbid someone from among their people to keep their opinions that can cause a negative influence to themself. Are you American or do you live in the west? In the United States of America your life can be ruined for having opinions. If you don’t agree with the LGBT community you will be labeled as a bigot, people will get you fired from your job, talk horribly about you, get other people to turn their backs on you. You can’t misgender trans people. In Canada it’s illegal to misgender a trans person. People in the United States lose their jobs over being “racist”. All you have to do is accuse someone of racism and everyone hates them now. I’ll give you an example in my personal life, there’s a man at my job that told a Jewish man to order a black coffee like everyone else when the jewish man was double checking to make sure what we served was kosher. Now everyone I work with hates the guy and when he comes in they all talk about how racist he is. All the man said was order a black coffee like the rest of us. It’s an ignorant statement but it isn’t the end of the world. America is so corrupt because of what’s considered acceptable and unacceptable, so it isn’t fair to tell a muslim country that they are wrong for not allowing someone to tell everyone they left Islam. Keep it to yourself. What’s there to talk about? Also, they can leave that country. Nobody is forcing them to stay. Why do you want to be surrounded by a religion that you don’t like and the people that practice it.
@@Liba_nand what about muslims causing corruption in non islamic regions? Should they be treated the same way by non muslims? Should someone who converts into islam be killed by his non muslim community. Wouldnt you be crying fowl if something like that happened. What filthy hypocrites these islamists are .. sheesh.. (I know most muslims dont agree with apostacy laws.. my response was to the islamists who follow the religion by the word)
@ brother Joshua - brother my heart yearns for you to embrace Islam. I couldn't oversight the sincerity in your mannerism. Allah will surely shower his mercy on you, far greater than you can imagine after your shahada. Dont delay your shahada brother - in fact what worst can happen? Think about it. Just the few things you mentioned as improvements in your life caused from learning about Islam is enough for you to accept Islam as your primary way of life - that "outcome". You can reassess, the lack of those exact same "outcomes" in this world are continuing to cause so much evil in this world. E.g. mistreatment of parents, drinking, lies, lack of self esteem, depression. May Allah guide you to Islam fast. Please come back here as soon as possible so we can witness your shahada to our hearts content, come back to fitra brother, so we can extend our duas for your blessings, and eternal jannah. Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) wept over people who died without accepting Islam in their life time. Please be a means to be a flag bearer of Islam in your family so you can call your parents to Islam with your good manners and wisdom before its too late. Your speedy action will surely transform many around you. I would love to be united with you and your parents in the hereafter as believers together. May Allah عزوجل forgive my sins and grant Jannah!
It's horrible and unethical to kill someone just because they leave a religion (especially if they were born into it and didn't really "choose" to join when they were a child). If others also leave, that's because they weren't convinced by the religion either, which is the failure of the preachers in that case. You can't force people to stay in a religion by the same logic you can't force someone to join it.
If my best friend starts talking to girls and go in nightclubs, I will be influenced. That is the logic. It is not because I've always wanted to do that, but because someone had a bad influence on me. (It also works for drugs and smoking)
@@imir_ you don’t kill people just living in a way you disagree with because other people get influenced. It’s those other people’s responsibility to not make mistakes
@@ashresearcher Correction : When I see someone publicly showing "Hey guys I left Islam !" I arrest him and give him a chance to at least lie about it. If he does not take his chance, fair enough, you know and he knew what was going to happen. I mean, it would be a nightmare for an atheist to live in an Islamic country. Why would he publicly shout against Islam ? Surely if he still wants to live or work here he needs to follow the law, and it is not even hard : just tell I'm muslim, you don't even need to practise the religion or believe in it. If it is a nightmare for someone to tell people that he is muslim, then this guy should probably leave the country already. Isn't it a weird behaviour that someone really wants to influence people into leaving islam ?
So wait, you can lie otherwise choose to be punished. Weren't prophets characteristics was saying true whatever the situation is. So why can't a honest person, say he doesnt believe anymore?
If you leave Islam, lying should be the least of your worries, you already guaranteed yourself hellfire, lying wouldn't change that. Lying for wordly things of course, would still get you punished in this world. So there's no issue in this reasoning, if an honest person chooses to say he left Islam, it's on him.
If you leave Islam but don’t tell anyone and still keep the outward appearance of being Muslim, there is no punishment according to a very strong opinion. As long as you’re not causing trouble by publicizing your apostasy, in other words.
@@pessimistkai5569 the truth about what? No one is asking a person if they are Muslim. If they offer the information that they have left Islam and remain upon this, and it is the truth, then the punishment is implemented. I don’t really understand what “telling the truth” has to do with it. No one is demanding that anyone lie. But there are severe punishments for those who publicly leave Islam under Shariah.
@@eesaabdurrahman1569i meant yes what if someone asks that person in public. Why should he lie then and if he tells the truth be would be punished now?
Apostasy is not punished by death according to this hadith Jabir reported: A bedouin came to the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, and gave the pledge of allegiance for embracing Islam. The next day he came with a fever and he said, “Cancel my pledge.” The Prophet refused three times and he said, “Medina is like a furnace. It expels its impurities and makes use of what is pure.” Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 1784, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1383 Verily, those who believed and then disbelieved, then believed and then disbelieved and increased in disbelief, never will Allah forgive them nor will He guide them to a right way. Surah An-Nisa 4:137 Its only when someone do treason A man who rejects Islam and wages war against Allah the Exalted and His Messenger. Source: Sunan An-Nasa’i 4048
The punishment is pretty much plausible if you consider the consequence of leaving Islam in hereafter. Allah in Many Quranic Verses (Q 2:217; Q 3:91; Q 2:161-162; Q 5:5; 88:23-24)) give punishment after death for the apostate. So one who already left Islam not only will face these punishments but also will be the people who he convinced to leave Islam and as we know punishment of hell is far worse than punishment in this dunya or world.
Im not saying the person should be allowed to stay and start to proselyting. He should leave the community peacefully. Its almost like the person who choose to cancel his/her citizenship. It is two types of apostasy one is peacefull and another is rebellion against the state. Force someone who doesnt want to stay believer its seem to contradict this verse from Q.10:99 Had your Lord so willed ˹O Prophet˺, all ˹people˺ on earth would have certainly believed, every single one of them! Would you then force people to become believers?
@@MohamedShire-rt1rt Yes he can without announcing it and saying openly he left Islam (also encouraging other to do the same). Also the verse you mentioned is talking about Non Muslims not apostates.
@@MohamedShire-rt1rtAlso it depends on the government body if they want to implement this law as some consider the law of apostasy to be optional in Sharia. As there is no verse in Quran which permit the capital punishment of death for apostasy.
Not really. He doesn't mention for example that over the centuries many Islamic scholars have explained that Q2:256 has been abrogated (Allah sends better verses, which he explains in the Quran) by verses revealed later in Surah 9 - else the Quran would also contradict itself. Eg: Ibn Kathir says "But, this verse is abrogated by the verse of "fighting...Therefore, all people of the world should be called to Islam. If anyone of them refuses to do so, or refuses to pay the Jizya they should be fought till they are k i l l e d." [Tafsir of Ibn Kathir, Al-Firdous Ltd., London, 1999: First Edition, Part 3, pp. 37-38].
He should guide you too: Satan controls your anus. Book: Majma' Al-Zawa’id wa Manba' Al-Fawa'id Vol: 1 By: Al-Haythami Pg 334 Hadith 1248 PEOPLE IN THE CHAIN: MEN OF AL-SAHTH Rasul Allah said: If Satan approaches one of you when you are praying and Satan open your anus. If Satan comes to you during your prayer and pulls out a hair from your anus, do no leave until you hear the sound or smell the fart coming from your anus. Hadith 1252 If Satan approaches a Muslim during prayer and he trays to end it and if any feels that Satan blows in the anus then you should not leave you smell your own fart or hear the sound of it. Abu Hurayrah Book: Al Badr al Munir Pg 300 Satan plays with the anus of the off spring of Adhaan. So is important for Muslims to say the dua: …(supplications) when entering or leaving the toilet, which are quite appropriate to the situation and place. Our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) taught us that when entering the toilet, we should say: Allaahumma innee aoodhi bika min al-khubthi wal-khabaaith (O Allah, I seek refuge with You from male and female devils). When leaving the toilet, he should say: Ghufraanak (I seek Your forgiveness). Duraat = farting And listen to the Ahadith what the teen is about the deen is about getting Shaytaan away from you. Os you know, you are going to the toilet Say: Oh Allah protect me from these devils you go in there with your left foot, the left foot you went in, you get a reward for that, the dua you said, Shaytaan will not see you. Your are in the toilet, Shaytaan can’t see you anymore, this is in the Hadith. If you don’t say the dua, what happens is the Shaytaan not only comes inside, but the Hadith of Tirmidi says he plays with your bowels. So you are inside there, your thinking your going to be out in five minutes, is taking you twenty minutes and you are not half way there… is because Shastan is pushing the shit up your anus. The Hadith says says he plays with your bowels. So if yo usay the dua, Allah protects you, then get up and do the Adhaan or something. The Hadith of Tirmidi says that the nyou say the adhaan, Shaytaan not only runs but the Hadith says duraat. He runs and he’s running as his fart comes out. If you say the Adhaan you make Shaytaan leak serious gas. Muhammad: If you say “bismillah" Satan won’t eat your food. (Riyad as-Salihin 731)
Probably not too many at his time, but after he died so many left that Abu Bakr went on to fight the Ridda (Apostasy) Wars for almost two years to convince these people to return, with a sword...
@@OmarOsman98 Is there anything wrong with fighting against a "new state" that is imposed upon you, which abolishes your rules and traditions that you had for centuries or even thousands of years and tells you to worship things according to rules that this new "state" came up with?
Just stumbling here. This explanation is not satisfactory and is very dangerous. I get it probably will be applied in a sharia state, but believing in democracy does not mean you agree to all that is currently in law. That's why laws are evolving and changing. This is besides the point. One of my main gripes with Islam is that how can a religion claiming to be of love be so quick to resort to violence? How do two people read the Quran and one comes out as a terrorist (like say Boko Haram in my country) while the other comes out as say The Muslim Lantern for example. I genuinely struggle with these two questions deeply... Showing discontent should not be a death sentence. Showing disbelief should not be a death sentence. God is powerful and more than able to fight his own battles. Why do we have to kill people in the name of God? Just me thinking out loud.
There has ALWAYS been violent sects in every religion throughout history. Look at European Christian’s plundering and conquering and force converting Africans, south North Americans to Christianity… Still happens today. George bush himself said I’m doing gods work by invading Iraq… gog and magog So should we blame all Christian’s?
discontentness and disbelief could come to a believer sometimes, they can work through that or ask questions about it. but theres a difference between THAT and publicly announcing you left islam or changed religions. God can and will punish those who disbelieve, and he gave us a choice to announce it or not. If someone initially muslim didnt wanna be muslim anymore they could leave the muslim country, if theyre staying then they shouldnt spread things like atheism and corruption, maybe this rule was more effective back then where if someone was vocal about something it spread much faster and caused alot more corruption
@@loftilhan4868 extreme cruelty in this case the killing of an apostate for coming out as one, Muslim lantern pretty much guaranteed that this person will not become Muslim
@@ayishabehardien6310Yes. It is barbaric. That man did NOT say that he supported the cleansing of the Palestinians. Stop making assumptions about people and stop spreading this whataboutism. Killing apostates is WRONG. IT IS INSANE THAT I EVEN HAVE TO SAY THIS.
So in secret you leave Islam, them maybe prayer time comes and a brother asks you "are you not going to the Mosque"? You have to lie and say "I am coming soon", else you would have declared your apostasy publicly and therefor you "have chosen to me k*lled"? Am I getting it right?
This is one of the most objective focused dawa Chanels. I think all Dawah group should get together and standardize thier approach and find the best effective way for Dawah
The thing is, there's no 1 way to give Dawah, everyone has their approach and many approaches clearly seem to work. As long as your Dawah's fundemental is Tawhid, it's fine.
@@sjaakafhaak5441 not democracy, the concept of democracy doesn't have laws. The next level nonsense is your ignorance. The human right declaration has what you say. Not democracy, democracy is an idea, not set of laws
Whenever you have a doubt brother first ask Allah Subhanahu Ta'ala, the Creator Himself. He is Al Hayy, Alive and he listens and answers. I embraced Islam more than 30 yrs ago but Alhamdulillah I luv Islam as I loved it first day. You won't regret in sha Allah. Allah Subhanahu Ta'ala is very loving ,make him your best friend. Always keep him on the top in your priority list. Whatever you do do with an intention of pleasing Him. May Allah Subhanahu Ta'ala bless you and protect you from all bad things in life. Ameen.
The thing is, I was born Christian and became Muslim in my twenties. I didn't know about this opinion when I converted. It causes me a lot of pain and doubt. My family respected my change of religion because they raised me to become an adult and choose my life course for myself. I feel this is right because Allah gives everyone free will and that should be honored, specifically regarding our choice of faith when we are older. Another thing, is when I converted I was living in Germany. I was not allowed to wear hijab and work at the same time, I left my job to wear hijab. I don't believe anyone should be coerced out of practicing Islam, and I find it hypocritical to think it is OK to coerce people out of other faith practices. I just can't agree with it, it is hurtful given my experience becoming Muslim and being so restricted. But at least German government didn't try to kill me....?? I am so lost on this, my imaan weakens when I think of it. This law just doesn't fall in like with love, compassion, free will, or understanding. 💔 Why is it so terrible to disagree on this ruling?
@@nsullivan516 wa Aleikum Salam, I have read this, but it doesn't really address anything in my doubts as I posted.. The thing is that protestant Christians do not abide by Old Testament laws, and it is not much different from the concept of abrogation in Islam. Where is the apostasy law in the Quran and why couldn't it possibly be an abrogated law as other laws were abrogated? My doubt is about it being ethical and seeing secular law in this case as being more compassionate and respectful of free will. My experience in Germany was painful enough being discriminated against in the workplace for wearing the hijab, as many Muslim women there are. Surely you don't agree that it is right? If someone wants to practice their faith, whether born into it or not, we should be able to do so. Christian legal history isn't my problem. And wouldn't you want a new Muslim in a Christian family to be respected anyway? Surely when it applies to Muslims you would argue it's unethical for Christians to prevent conversion. So why can't we afford other people the same rights out of respect for free will as Allah has established?
Treason has been punished by death by governments throughout history and still today in USA, Russia, India and China. Apostasy equates to Treason in a Muslim Sharia government. Anyone can leave Islam and not practice. They will not get killed. But if they publicly announce it, try to influence other Muslims to atheism or whatever, insult Islam and prophet Muhammad pbuh. If they keep doing that. Then what do you expect will happen in a Muslim country with sharia government? They are free to leave that country whenever. They will not be forced to stay in that country. Treason against Goverments (e.g. USA, Russia etc) is okay. But Treason against God is bad? 😂😂 It’s very simple for me. I don’t see any problems.
@@jaciemokidm609you should listen again to what muhammad ali said in the video. The reason for the apostasy law punishment. It to prevent people going out and openly declaring to the public their disbelief and causing corruption in the land. If someone want to privately become a disbeliever then God will deal with them on judgement day.
@@jaciemokidm609 Salan sister, Ive responded to your comments in another thread. I pray to Allah that he keeps you steadfast in the religion and you have peace.
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My explanation: 1. Maintaining social cohesion, as Islamic society is built off of Islamic values. 2. Ensuring allegiance of Muslims to the Ummah, which is done through shared belief. 3. Neutralising the potential ideological imperialism of your enemies. 4. Apologetic: The apostate can lie about being a Muslim, and get away with it. 5. Liberalism: Shouldn't every nation have the right to self-determination?
@@rivvy2138 Where in the 5 points were there anything about German Ethno-nationalism, Lebensraum or the Darwinistic racial supreme traits of the Aryan Ubermensch? Edit- All modern societies require their subject to ally with them, i.e., citizenship oath, all societies have limits on free speech and free thought, and even the U.S, the centre of modern liberalism will lock up journalists when its dodgy business is under speculation. France, where philosophical liberalism originated from, will lock you up if you dare to question the authenticity of the holocaust and burn their national flag. The U.S is known to enforce their schoolchildren to chant the pledge of allegiance, sing the national anthem and stand up for war memorials. France requires foreigners to pledge allegiance to the secular state and believe in "liberty, equality, fraternity" before receiving the citizenship. Are they also Nazis, or is it just Islam, because Islam is a premodern civilisation that, like all premodern civilisation, runs by religion and not secular-liberalism, and has religious elements shaping it's governance, social ethics, traditions, etc? Are almost all premodern civilisations fascist because their civilisation was based off religion, i.e., Chinese Confucianist Society, Japanese Shinto society who believed their emperor was god himself, Hindu Indian Society with a rigid racial caste system, Judaism with Halacha law who believed they were god's chosen race, or pre-industrial Europe, which was run by the Canon Law of the church and had knights bearing crosses? Ironically, fascism is a secular post-industrial ideology, so wouldn't it be fair to say that the contemporary U.S and France are closer to Nazi Germany than the Islamic Caliphates & Sultanates ever were?
@enotsemil First, a country is very much different from a belief. Countries are real. They're objective. Religion is not. Second, None of these countries will murder you for not wanting to say the pledge or salute some dumb flag. I mean do you hear yourself lmao? I don't think yall do that's why you think this way. The sheer gull one has to have to say "yes I think we should murder ppl who preach against our religion because we are the majority in the country" lmfao.
Satan controls your anus. Book: Majma' Al-Zawa’id wa Manba' Al-Fawa'id Vol: 1 By: Al-Haythami Pg 334 Hadith 1248 PEOPLE IN THE CHAIN: MEN OF AL-SAHTH Rasul Allah said: If Satan approaches one of you when you are praying and Satan open your anus. If Satan comes to you during your prayer and pulls out a hair from your anus, do no leave until you hear the sound or smell the fart coming from your anus. Hadith 1252 If Satan approaches a Muslim during prayer and he trays to end it and if any feels that Satan blows in the anus then you should not leave you smell your own fart or hear the sound of it. Abu Hurayrah Book: Al Badr al Munir Pg 300 Satan plays with the anus of the off spring of Adhaan. So is important for Muslims to say the dua: …(supplications) when entering or leaving the toilet, which are quite appropriate to the situation and place. Our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) taught us that when entering the toilet, we should say: Allaahumma innee aoodhi bika min al-khubthi wal-khabaaith (O Allah, I seek refuge with You from male and female devils). When leaving the toilet, he should say: Ghufraanak (I seek Your forgiveness). Duraat = farting And listen to the Ahadith what the teen is about the deen is about getting Shaytaan away from you. Os you know, you are going to the toilet Say: Oh Allah protect me from these devils you go in there with your left foot, the left foot you went in, you get a reward for that, the dua you said, Shaytaan will not see you. Your are in the toilet, Shaytaan can’t see you anymore, this is in the Hadith. If you don’t say the dua, what happens is the Shaytaan not only comes inside, but the Hadith of Tirmidi says he plays with your bowels. So you are inside there, your thinking your going to be out in five minutes, is taking you twenty minutes and you are not half way there… is because Shastan is pushing the shit up your anus. The Hadith says says he plays with your bowels. So if yo usay the dua, Allah protects you, then get up and do the Adhaan or something. The Hadith of Tirmidi says that the nyou say the adhaan, Shaytaan not only runs but the Hadith says duraat. He runs and he’s running as his fart comes out. If you say the Adhaan you make Shaytaan leak serious gas. Muhammad: If you say “bismillah" Satan won’t eat your food. (Riyad as-Salihin 731)
Well, well, well. This clip compares well with the Medieval Inquisition trials. Actually, I think they were probably fairer. So, what commentary do we hear about 5m 40s into clip. 'If a person comes out publicly and declares that he is leaving Islam. Then we have a process. That he is asked to repent. If he does not repent, he is punished with capital punishment. And that will only happen if he chooses to die' . So there you have it. Stay under our dictatorship, think as we do, do as we do, .. or die. Be interesting to know how many people in Islam really believe in its beliefs?
@TheMuslimLantern how is this different from a young teen joining a gang and being punished for leaving? Or a fascist dictatorship ? Say a man doesn’t want to be Muslim, he tells his family in confidence but then the family tells the local police - he is questioned, forced to repent to save his life. He has to lie to save his life, but now he is labeled a “hypocrite” - how exactly is that not compulsion? You live in the UK, if similar laws were places unto you to reject Islam for some ideology and you were labeled a potential threat under punishment of death, would you not say your civil liberties would be violated? Or would you accept it as part of the laws of land? It is not well explained at all.
@@Psycho_synthesis2he wants to drink, he eventually have to go public, some muslim caught him drinking and asked him why, he doesn’t want to lie so he said he left islam. The muslim reported it to the authorities, what’s gonna happen now to that individual?
Because hadith is not from Islam, its pagan book, there is no killing of whoever leaves Islam in Qur'an. There is no compulsion in religion. This verse is not only for non muslim, but for every living human on earth, either if he is already in Islam or not. Also there are verse about people who believe, then disbelieve, then believe, then disbelieve, still no death punishment to them. Islam is truth, Qur'an is truth. Sunnis and Shias are cult, I call you to the faith of peace, the true faith, and peace to you.
@@recitacijekurana4874i assume you are a “quran only” muslim. Im not a muslim (yet lol) but curious about the position you hold. Like for example, ive heard the hadiths teach you how to pray (5 dailys, etc). If you dont follow hadith, how do you pray?
@@tonytouch516 I am not praying, because there is no explanation of how to do a "ritual prayer" in Qur'an. I don't feel like reciting something in Arabic that you don't even understand and do repetitive actions actually connects you to God. I feel like reading His Words, thinking about them deeply, fearing His Punishment, thinking about creation of Earth and Heavens and ourselves, doing good deeds, all of this for the sake of God's mercy, and entering His Paradise. this are the deeds that bring you closer to God. Because God said that the Qur'an is a guidance for the people of understanding, there was no mention of another book besides it, and since majority of Qur'an's ayats are very precise and simple at the same time, we can assume that we can look up for Guidance only from it.
Follow up question. What if someone wants to leave islam to join another religion? The explanation says that the person is not punished if they dont publicly renounce or lie during repentance period but what about a person that simply starts following a different religion and when asked about it, responds that yes he is following something else now?
As far as I know there can be 0 reson for someone to become apostate historically in islamic state, because he would be raised with muslim parents, in muslim dominant culture, he won't see any criticism of islamic values, being muslim is beneficial for that person with strong community(and losing that is not good for anyone). So there was little chance for anyone to become apostate except through joining enemy or being in contact with them.
What about someone that was born into Islam? They didn't choose to be muslim so how can they know if that person really "left" islam when in reality they were never truly muslim
Hello Brother, the word "Muslim" means "a follower" of God. Now, in Islam, everyone is born a Muslim, in a state of "fitra" which means natural or original disposition - that's why anyone who accepts Islam is called a REvert. Those whose parents have made them a fully fledged Muslim, if they wish to leave, the same ruling applies BUT ONLY if that person has reached the age of discernment (not needing adult assistance). This only applies in a Sharia state.
This law isn't exclusive to Islam, but a similar kind of law can also be found in Deuteronomy 13 and 17 Of the Torah and Old Testament. The church used to sanction the practice of this back when it had more authority to do so. However, Islam is the only religion that I know of that still carries out this type of law.
Basically, if you choose Islam, there's no undo button. In democracy, you can change your choices. You don't have to forever live with bad choices. One of the reasons why I see apostasy punishment as a big problem in any religion. It's is like entering a to a jail on your own accord to lose your freedom.
What I think is that Islam is really serious about the image it has, and that MAY BE one of the reasons you don't have the undo button, Islam says no hurry, do research and see if it is true and when you are pretty sure, then accept it. If you say, what if something about Islam comes in my knowledge afterwards, I would say that no one will accept Islam based on the micro details, see the basic ideology and if you believe that is true, anything else can be resolved. Also a reason for this law is that there were people in Madina who had this habit of becoming Muslim in the morning and then going back in evening so to weaken the Muslim community (it is in the Quran) and that is what Islam prevents, lowering the morals of society and as MA said that making a excuse for doing the sins in Islam. I guess it is clear
What sort of logic is that ... killing someone is OK God is love So definitely, apostate law is man made Pure brutality n insane to kill someone for leaving Islam
Subhanallah that was so beautifully explain brother! I never had many doubts about Islam but i myself struggled a bit with understanding why would kill apostates but now i understand. Jazakallahu ghair
كنت اشعر ان الإسلام ليس منتشر وان هناك الكثير من الناس لايعرفون الاسلام او انه هو الدين الصحيح ،كان هذا الامر يشغل بالي كثيراً واردد أريد ان افعل شيء لانتشار الإسلام بشكل اوسع والجميع يعرف ماهو الإسلام بأي طريقه حتى في بعض الاحيان افكر ف ان اكمل الجامعه ف الخارج لهذا السبب ولكن قابلني ظروف ولا أستطيع ولن استطيع، ولكن عندما رأيت فيديوهاتك وانك تدعو الي الله عزوجل وماشاء الله الكثير يدخل الإسلام بعد الحديث معك جعلت قلبي يشعر بكثير من الفرح ان هناك من حقق رغبتي ، ربنا يجعلك سبباً لمن اهتدي. جزاك الله خير وجزاك وجمعك الله مع رسوله عند الحوضِ .
Why do we choose to override what Allah says in the Quran with Hadith?? There is no apostasy law or anything of the sort if you decide to leave Islam. Brothers Allah is way more merciful than that, and people who decide to leave are the ones who are truly losing. May Allah guide us all.
Quran and hadith are the same thing though. Mohammed's words. Consider the Quran the first ever hadith volume without narration and some pretty reliable sources.
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Thank you for this answer but how about the Muslims that went to Al Habasha and converted to Christianity. When they returned some of them converted back to Islam and some of them didn't but they were not punished.
I always understood the few people that got punished leaving Islam was because they also left the Muslim army to join the enemy. This is even punishable in all countries to this day.
Can you please clarify this for me.
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 May the ONE who CREATED LIFE and DEATH AND Jesus (pbuh) guide you to His Path. The Path Jesus was sent to show you but you rather listen to Paul.
@@HHedda He is wrong in this regard. There is no punishment for leaving Islam. The holy Quran is crystal clear in this regard.
One of the things I learnt from Brother Muhammad is no watering down on Islam.Brilliant answer Masha Allah.
So what about the people who didn't choose Islam? Like people who were born into it, it's okay to kill them if they leave too? They didn't have a choice to become Muslim, it was their parents choice, so now you gonna kill them for wanting to leave Islam?
Islam is the only religion in the world that has violent rules like this. I don't see how you can't see this is not a religion of peace.
We captured beautiful women for ransom. We decided to have sex with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). We asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.
Sahih Muslim 1438a
Yes!
@@richarddawkins4607 you are proud to be on falsehood, your name is dawkins you make a monkey see monkey do out of yourself.
@@richarddawkins4607Are you really proud? Isn't it something you did for attention? Or is it something you did to think you're free to do whatever you want?
I really loved the fact how brother Mohammed Ali was absolutely reluctant to hear the guy sing his praises. A real follower of Prophet Muhammad SAW
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2zif a person becomes a Muslim and then leaves Islam, then that person is not sincere to begin with. The guided are those who are sincere, and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) says that those who are arrogant will not enter paradise.
@@HiImMechlybe careful brother his set a trap in his question
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2ziremember that we leave him/her period of time to repent, and that it is capital punishment
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2zi now see, you miss again, i said we give them a period of time and that it is capital punishment, be sincere
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2zi You should ask Br Muhammed in Live Q&A :)
What a lovely individual. May Allah guide this indian brother. Really gives me hope for indian people, because there are a lot of respectful indians and hindus that just need guidance.
U r biggest lier if u say Islam was false after knowing it, or may be unknowingly and intentionally
It's not a culture
And for those non muslims who disagree on punishment, first disproove islam and after u leave islam
And if u had little of brain, u would think for a false religion to claim 100℅ true ppl first going against it will be it's own ppl, instead of following it strictly
I could see myself in place of Joshua. Very similar situation. I started respecting my parents, started really caring for them without complaining (at least I'm trying), and became more aware of my roles and responsibilities in the society after I became Muslim (in my heart). It's just that he's got more humility and sincerity than I do. May Allah guide both of us.
Amin
Amin Brother
Don't worry even as a born muslim I struggle. I get angry at my mother and just think about apologising and I don't know how to do it and I weep silently over that (all of this feelings, respect came after taking my faith seriously alhamdulliah) may Allah guide us to the righteous path
@Theres_no_God_but_Allah_ because everyone's situation is different?
I became an Atheist
brother joshua is already there, i can see his sincerity glooming in his face. May you be guided by the Most high Ameen.
Ameen…🤲🏼🤲🏼
The best explanation i ever got. Alhamdulillah
yes, very to the point and no sugar coating. Brother Daniel Haqiqatjou has also answered this concern/question in a similar manner if not better.
Yes, and people of other religions who try to argue that it’s unjust are just trying to defend secularism.
But in reality they don’t disagree with executing defectors of a society. Especially the Christians because they were known for dealing with people who didn’t conform to their society in that manner.
Hello Sami
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2zi not the eyes blind but the hearts
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2ziwhat religion has freedom, even liberalism has no freedom
I had a doubt about this for so long. Thank you for clearing this for me 💖
Why does this clear it up? I still do not understand it. I converted to Islam and only found out about this later. My family respected my choice of faith and I am allowed to practice and express it authentically. I wish everyone would have this right, including my own children. It is something that would prevent me from wanting to live in an Islamic country for fear of persecution to non-Muslims.
Many people only worry about this kind of situation if it happens to them or someone they love. I am not like this. My empathy is too strong. Muslims who die for their faith are martyrs, it is a noble thing to do when persecuted and our faith is strong to do it. It is considered a good thing. It doesn’t make sense to treat lying about your faith as something so light and not a big deal. No one should have to choose between their faith and survival. This is just sad.
I am so confused. Someone had to have been wrong 😥
@@jaciemokidm2287 I am going to be honest, I have no idea what you just yapped about. Nor, do I know why you even bothered to reply to me. I am gonna hope you're not some sort of AI chat-bot but... uh, yeah
@@ComradesChoice wow. Ok then…
@@jaciemokidm2287, but who will persecute someone if he does not speak about it publicly? The only reason someone does it is to spread chaos and involve others in the same. So Muhammad made it clear in the video, only those who choose to be punished will be punished.
@@jaciemokidm2287 There is actually no Islamic state nowadays
I learned this exact answer from my mom when i was in primary school
I believe those that have proper formal education of islam will not have problem explaining this matter
Sadly, not many nowadays muslim have proper knowledge of islam, yet giving answers based on their opinion
@@AmicableAgnosticvalid question
@@AmicableAgnosticIn Islamic state no one is allowed to publicly announce that he has left Islam. You can keep it private, state will not care.
Reason for this is: Islamic state constitution is Qur'an and Sunnah of the Prophet. Publicly renouncing Islam is like announcing renegading against community which disturbs social cohesion of the community. So Apostacy law is applied to prevent such things from happening.
@@AmicableAgnostic purpose of Apostacy law is preserve Islamic values in society as the state is based on Islam. So why do you think it's necessary for a person to come out in public about his Apostacy. Just keep it to yourself.
As I said since constitution is based on Islam, publically announcing your Apostacy is like rebelling against the state itself.
In today's countries it's akin to saying publicly I renounce the citizenship of this country and refuse to follow constitution. When you do this state will crack down upon you.
@@AmicableAgnostic so this shows you don't know about Islamic Apostacy law...
Look I want to start with saying I understand where you coming from. Because your paradigm is different.
Every ideology values it's ideology more than other and wants to limit or restrict competing values from replacing it.
Example: liberals don't say just because we preach liberalism so we should allow all other preachings. They don't allow Nazism to be preached. They will censor it. Isn't that restricting their freedom. Look what happened to Kanye West.
Every ideology has defined boundaries and if you cross that they will censor you or sometimes even punish you. In France Religious institution are not allowed to say LGBTQ is sin. If anyone complains their funding will be stopped. Isn't that restricting freedom?
And for your info if you apostate from Islam and leave Islamic state then state will not follow you and kill you. This has happened during times of Prophet and his companions. They had left Islamic state and so they were not punished. Whoever wants to remains in the Islamic state has to respect it's values and whoever publicly renounces Islam will be considered traitor to the community. Islamic state wants to preserve its values and people leaving Islam or encouraging others to leave Islam will threaten it's power structure.
Every state does this. When their power structure is threatened they will clamp down on you, censor you or arrest you. This is to preserve their Authority and social cohesion.
@@MZD15 so basically its the same as Nazism
Irish revert here, I'm glad I found this channel Alhamdulillah 😊
Mashallah brother, may Allah bless you!
Alhamdulillah. ramadan mubarak, barakAllahu feek
Congratulations, brother! God chose you :) what an honor!
Check farid responds and dawah over dunya too brilliant pages
Welcome to the brotherhood and sisterhood of Islam. Islam is for everyone.
The law on apostasy stands we are not ashamed of our Religion Al Islam.
Alhamdulillah
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2zigo away you dog
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2zi You do realize that Islam teachings and dawah exist in every country in the world today, right? Especially after the internet and television spread everywhere, not to mention how easy it has become to travel to any nation. So, no jihad by the sword (Using military force) isn't required anymore. Because today, Islam can reach all nations peacefully and people aren't denied access to it by any government. So, nowadays if anyone wants to learn about Islam they can simply do so.
@@michaelmalzahn-tx2zi Michael please dont hesitate to join the stream and ask your questions to brother Muhammad
@@AG.5attabWhat? Jihad isn't required anymore? That's an absolute lie. Tell me the Ulama you heard this from.
I’m looking to get married please make dua for my success
May Allah give you a good wife
insha'Allah.Allah will accept your dua🤲🤲
hope youll get the best for you.
amin
Inshallah brother u get the most righteous and best wife ❤❤
1 Year later, how did it go? Hopefully you married a respectful and pious wife inshallah
The verse of "There is no compulsion in Islam" is a profound one which sadly even Muslims don't understand. The verse following it says, "Truth is clearly separated from error" by which Allah emphasizes the "Choice of Free will", logically. So whether before Islam or after it, there is no compulsion at all! Because whoever chooses to follow error has only committed injustice to their own self. So as the verse said "No compulsion at all!!"
Keep in mind however that 2:256 has been abrogated (Allah sends better verses, which he explains in the Quran) by verses revealed later in Surah 9 - this is explained clearly by all the important Islamic scholars in the tafsirs (else the Quran would also contradict itself), and most imams should tell you this if they have read Islamic sources. All you need to do is refer to one of the great Islamic scholars like:
Ibn Kathir says "But, this verse is abrogated by the verse of "fighting...Therefore, all people of the world should be called to Islam. If anyone of them refuses to do so, or refuses to pay the Jizya they should be fought till they are k i l l e d." [Tafsir of Ibn Kathir, Al-Firdous Ltd., London, 1999: First Edition, Part 3, pp. 37-38].
Death for Apostasy of Islam is not mentioned in the Quran.
@@theastronomer5800so If is abrogated why is in the Quran 😂
@@ماهر-ل1طhey smart guy, we dont mysteriously remove verses unlike the Bible. Also the Quran was revealed in the span of 23 years not in a vaccum.
So we shoulder ignore the authentic tafseers,throw away the understanding of salaf....and listen to you, right? Most muslim including scholars didn’t understand, only you understand...then what's the difference between liberalism and islam? 😂
Amazing, I really hope this man becomes muslim, he is so well spoken and sincere, it befits him really to accept Islam.
How does Muhammad talk to people
He would be a fool to be tricked into Islam when many Muslims themselves are coming to realise that they are forced trapped in a eccentric Cult.
Muhammad was a Shizophrenic conman who even declared that people could consume his urine, sweat, dirt from his nose, spit, poop etc because it was blessed.
Which wretched prophet speaks such utter Nonsense to self promote himself.
He even made a ridiculous Shahada self promoting himself!
Muslims should study the fake Qur'an compiled 200 yrs after Muhammad.
Muslims are burning alive, Slaughtering, destroying churches, stealing property of nonMuslims because Muhammad the highest robber wanted it.
The Quran, a lifeless, factory made paper 📜 book is no comparison to the life of any human, not one !
@@froxyproxy9180with respect
Eid ul Adha Mubarak. TAQABBAL ALLAHU MINNA WA MINKUM ❤
The Last portion shows how kind and unique is brother Ali's Dawah , May Allah bless u and May Allah lead that guest brother to the path of truth and right ❤️.
Eid mubarak to all the brothers and sisters out there
If you read this;
Say "SubhanAllah" 33x
Say "Alhamdulillah" 33x
Say "Allahu akbar" 34x
May Allah reward you.
What is stopping you from saying more than 33 times tahmid tasbih and takbir 34 times. It is only in times of after fardh and before you sleep that these limits are specified. Their may be more that I'm not aware of.
@@akahige9626
Wise answer👍
Alhamdulilah..Amazing explanation brother❤❤🇲🇾
Brother seemed very genuine. May Allah guide him to take his sahada asap.
Satan controls your anus.
Book: Majma' Al-Zawa’id wa Manba' Al-Fawa'id
Vol: 1
By: Al-Haythami
Pg 334 Hadith 1248
PEOPLE IN THE CHAIN: MEN OF AL-SAHTH
Rasul Allah said: If Satan approaches one of you when you are praying and Satan open your anus.
If Satan comes to you during your prayer and pulls out a hair from your anus, do no leave until you hear the sound or smell the fart coming from your anus.
Hadith 1252
If Satan approaches a Muslim during prayer and he trays to end it and if any feels that Satan blows in the anus then you should not leave you smell your own fart or hear the sound of it.
Abu Hurayrah
Book: Al Badr al Munir
Pg 300
Satan plays with the anus of the off spring of Adhaan.
So is important for Muslims to say the dua:
…(supplications) when entering or leaving the toilet, which are quite appropriate to the situation and place. Our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) taught us that when entering the toilet, we should say: Allaahumma innee aoodhi bika min al-khubthi wal-khabaaith (O Allah, I seek refuge with You from male and female devils). When leaving the toilet, he should say: Ghufraanak (I seek Your forgiveness).
Duraat = farting
And listen to the Ahadith what the teen is about the deen is about getting Shaytaan away from you. Os you know, you are going to the toilet Say: Oh Allah protect me from these devils you go in there with your left foot, the left foot you went in, you get a reward for that, the dua you said, Shaytaan will not see you.
Your are in the toilet, Shaytaan can’t see you anymore, this is in the Hadith.
If you don’t say the dua, what happens is the Shaytaan not only comes inside, but the Hadith of Tirmidi says he plays with your bowels. So you are inside there, your thinking your going to be out in five minutes, is taking you twenty minutes and you are not half way there… is because Shastan is pushing the shit up your anus.
The Hadith says says he plays with your bowels.
So if yo usay the dua, Allah protects you, then get up and do the Adhaan or something. The Hadith of Tirmidi says that the nyou say the adhaan, Shaytaan not only runs but the Hadith says duraat.
He runs and he’s running as his fart comes out.
If you say the Adhaan you make Shaytaan leak serious gas.
Muhammad:
If you say “bismillah" Satan won’t eat your food.
(Riyad as-Salihin 731)
@@cascarrabias397@AG5attab Nothing worth learning in Islam. It is a bastardised version of Judaism. Muhammad even stole the Jewish Greeting 'Shalom Aleichem' to bastardised Arabic version.
Muhammad was a Shizophrenic clever fraudster.
Muslims are burning alive, lynching, murdering humans , burning churches. A lifeless, factory made fake Quran that can be replaced is no comparison to a living person. There is no outrage among Muslims for burning churches, murdering people for flimsy excuses!
It is Muhammad who instituted this horrific custom even if it was just false allegation.
It is unfortunate that inspired by Muslims, now Hindus in India and Jews are also killing, torturing Christians. They know very well a Christian respects difference of opinions and ideology and will never burn alive, Lynch humans etc .
MashaAllah. What a lovely brother. InshaAllah Allah will guide him to Islam soon.
Taqabbal Allahu Minna wa minkum.
May Allah Guide this brother to Islam
Really enjoyed this. The guest is so gentle and polite and humble I think. And as usual, brother Muhammad has been able to provide a brilliant, honest and truly logical answers.
Brother, this was also one of my questions that was kinda in the back of my mind, so thank a lot, now i can atleast explain this when someone asks about it
The problem with the Apostasy law is when common Muslims take the law into their own hands instead of letting the leaders execute the law.
Right, so you're saying that the leader should execute the apostates - people who simply do not believe in ancient supernatural nonsense and want to point out the issues with it to modern people?
@@theastronomer5800 If you live in a Muslim country, you either prove that it’s ancient supernatural nonsense in an academic setting or shut up. When your entire society is built on the Islamic faith, it’s the government’s job to not allow people to run around spouting unfounded lies in attempt to destabilize society. Heretics have been killed, maimed, jailed all over the world because of this for thousands of years.
Nowadays in the ‘modern’ Western society you have people publicly spouting whatever unfounded nonsense they want and confusing the masses with lies. This would not be acceptable in the Islamic world and I believe the consequences for misleading people away from the truth should be dire.
@@theastronomer5800this is also your blind believe 😂😂😂
@@theastronomer5800maybe you don't understand the meaning of an apostate. If you never accept the Islam, then you are not an apostate and there won't be any punishment.
In my comment, I did of course mean people who were brought up Muslim (by their parents, or the few converts today) but then started to use their brains, did some reading and realized that Islam is just another man-made superstition. Still, in your comment you make it clear that there will be a punishment for all the Muslims in an Islamic state who want to leave this religion. This is against basic human rights. We live in the 21st century and as people become more educated, and have access to sources, and more more leave religions behind. @@sajjadhossain8593
So choosing a different religion is equal to wanting/choosing to be killed…? No the options are, stay in this religion that you’ve decided wasn’t for you or be killed. That person is choosing to pursue a different religion, not choosing to be killed… Speaking eloquently doesn’t change the foundation of the truth.
editing is good masha'Allah! May Allah strengthen our ummah, Ameen.
this is not *choosing to die* . this is literally being trapped to either live a fake live or give up your life
May Allah سُبْحَانَهُۥ وَتَعَالَىٰ guide him.
Allahumma Barik br Muhammad,
May Allah سُبْحَانَهُۥ وَتَعَالَىٰ protect you and bless you in this life and the next!
Is it true that Muhammad flew over the moon riding a magic human-faced donkey? Do you believe it? (be a logical person, please)
QURAN 2:256 Let there be no compulsion in religion, for the truth stands out clearly from falsehood. 💪🙂💪
@@srnp0007 What's nonsense? The Quranic Verse? Are you kidding me? Be careful what you say, Allah may ask you about it..
This means you cannot forcefully convert someone, not that you can't punish an apostate
He already talk about this, why you can not just hear what he said?
@@Halal_Dan No compulsion in religion!! it was said by Mohammad to the quaresh tribe..But later on all of the quresh became muslims..lol How then Mohammad said to quaresh tribe that you will not worship what I worship if they all became muslims later on..lol ha ha ha..fake!!
@@Halal_Dan In a hadith muslims can eat apostates even w/out cookig them..lol
may Joshua keep in the straight path, he looks and sounds like a good person, and admitted he's more leaned into Islam than anything, he just need that 1 day where he's *sure* and it'll be beautiful from there.
Just a question, what if India, China or other Christians countries enact similar apostasy law preventing, have capital pusnishment for non Muslim to convert to Islam to reciprocate similar law in Islam…then how those people can become Muslim???
Salam brother,
They can become muslim in secret, pray in secret, fast in secret. Allah will make it easy for them.
@@mohamedhesham6910 They're going to go on the Hajj in secret? Won't there be records of their flight to Mecca?
"If you're not a muslim, you don't understand the Islamic text"
What?
It is the truth, if you are a flat earther then you do not understand science.
That means no man becomes Muslim because Islam is the truth but they were forced to it or just blind followers.
@@karimmezghiche9921 Not necessarily. Like if you're a round earther, doesn't mean you must understand geography or not.
@@purpp-esque1711
A "round earther" could be holding that belief simply because that's what he was told to believe simce he was a kid, but it is possible that he holds that belief because he understands geography.
On the other hand only someone who doesn't understand geography can be a "flat earther".
@@karimmezghiche9921 It's a no true Scotsman fallacy. A non Muslim can definitely interpret the text.
M. A my Muslim bretherin..
May your lantern shine forever bright for the entire ummah forevermore
Aameen
Eid Mubarak brothers and sisters. May Allah SWT accept our du'a and prayers. Beautiful explanation brother.
Nothing worth learning in Islam. It is a bastardised version of Judaism. Muhammad even stole the Jewish Greeting 'Shalom Aleichem' to bastardised Arabic version.
Muhammad was a Shizophrenic clever fraudster.
Muslims are burning alive, lynching, murdering humans , burning churches. A lifeless, factory made fake Quran that can be replaced is no comparison to a living person. There is no outrage among Muslims for burning churches, murdering people for flimsy excuses!
It is Muhammad who instituted this horrific custom even if it was just false allegation.
It is unfortunate that inspired by Muslims, now Hindus in India and Jews are also killing, torturing Christians. They know very well a Christian respects difference of opinions and ideology and will never burn alive, Lynch humans etc .
I think the biggest part that disgruntles people about punishment with apostasy laws, is that it violates "Freedom of Conscience", which is a human right. And that the threat of NOT RETURNING is death, imprisonment, and other such punishments. And, even if you do return, you can still get ostracized for it.
Why can't all the dawah men be like you? Humble, kind and patient. I think you should open a class and teach them how to convey the message in a beautiful way like you do. Salam to all muslim bros and sists from the beautiful country of Indonesia ❤
But he doesn't state facts. For example, he brought up Q2:256 and of course won't mention that this verse has been abrogated (Allah sends better verses, which he explains in the Quran) by verses revealed later in Surah 9 - this is explained clearly by many important Islamic scholars in the tafsirs (else the Quran would also contradict itself) and many Islamic scholars today will explain this, eg:
Ibn Kathir says "But, this verse is abrogated by the verse of "fighting...Therefore, all people of the world should be called to Islam. If anyone of them refuses to do so, or refuses to pay the Jizya they should be fought till they are killed." [Tafsir of Ibn Kathir, Al-Firdous Ltd., London, 1999: First Edition, Part 3, pp. 37-38].
@@theastronomer5800 please let me know which verse that you quote Ibn Kathir tafsir? I did read Ibn Kathir tafsir on verse 2:256 and he said nothing about the abrogated verse.
@@Coolpotayto Hey. It's for 2:256 and I gave the full reference where you can find it, from one source that translated the original Arabic. You must be reading the English translation available on sites like quranx, where this portion has not been translated by Safiur Rahman Mubarakpuri who is responsible for the abridged version of Tafsir Ibn Kathir widely available on the internet. I think you can go to the altafsir or shamela sites, which have the Arabic, but I'm not sure if those contain the full Arabic.
Also, if you haven't, read the tafsir of Ibn Kathir for 9:5 as it's related to this topic ("This honorable Ayah (9:5) was called the Ayah of the Sword, about which Ad-Dahhak bin Muzahim said, "It abrogated every agreement of peace between the Prophet and any idolator, every treaty, and every term.'' ) and also 9:29 which is long so I won't quote it but do read it.
There are many sahih hadiths of relevance as well, like:
Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah, and he who professed it was guaranteed the protection of his property and life on my behalf except for the right affairs rest with Allah. - Sahih Muslim 21a
Messenger of Allah: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim. - Sahih Muslim 1767a
Oh message of killing people I wish people treat Muslim the way the deserve to be treated
Many flaws in Lantern response.
1. Lantern compared man made laws(democracy) to the laws made by SWT Allah.
2. If Allah already going to punish him or her for leaving the religion at the day of judgment why punish him/her in this world ? - as per Quran every nonbeliver anyways suppose to go to hell.
3. If someone is asking the person leaving religion to come back otherwise he/she will be punished, why that person or group can't wait until the natural end of his/her life, let SWT Allah take care of punishment.
4. What wiill happen to person who is punishing the apostate if the apostate decides to accept SWT Allah at the last moment of his death and died as a believer, then this will make the punisher commit sin and will get punished by SWT Allah at the day of judgment, even without his knowledge.
Masha' Allah
Your words are heart-warming
Whenever I see you, my brother, I pray that your intention is sincere for Allah, and that He accepts your work.
You are doing a great thing
so we are proud of you as Muslims..
Nothing worth learning in Islam. It is a bastardised version of Judaism. Muhammad even stole the Jewish Greeting 'Shalom Aleichem' to bastardised Arabic version.
Muhammad was a Shizophrenic clever fraudster.
Muslims are burning alive, lynching, murdering humans , burning churches. A lifeless, factory made fake Quran that can be replaced is no comparison to a living person. There is no outrage among Muslims for burning churches, murdering people for flimsy excuses!
It is Muhammad who instituted this horrific custom even if it was just false allegation.
It is unfortunate that inspired by Muslims, now Hindus in India and Jews are also killing, torturing Christians. They know very well a Christian respects difference of opinions and ideology and will never burn alive, Lynch humans etc .
It warms your heart to hears justification about killing a person I hope you are on a watchlist
@@humanrace6224 You do realize treason is punishable by death. Traitors who side with the enemy? Who seek to destroy from the inside? In the past, this is what happened. Since the ummah was small, every muslim man was a soldier. Those who leave and betray are killed. Today, those who leave can just silently leave the country, as the apostasy law is not enacted in a non sharia state.
تبرير قبيح
@@humanrace6224 yes it warms heart also that islam has clear law unlike your double standard liberal cult.Freedom of speech until it doesn't fit it in the narrative.
What a lovely guy mashallah May Allah guide him and strengthen him in Iman and Islam and his family and his descendants till the end of time. And may Allah guide all the non Muslims out there who are genuinely good people with good hearts, may the Turner of Hearts bring those hearts back to Him and may all of us who are Muslim live and die upon Islam and may we all be reunited with the righteous and the Prophets under His Shade on the Day of Resurrection. Ameen. Thuma Ameen.
This Apostasy law is NOT in the Quran & it was NEVER carried out by the prophetﷺ. This law is in the hadith and widely challenged. Historically, this law was specifically for Muslims who joined the oppressor and opposing forces against Islam in order to explain to them that, in this case, they may be killed when met on the battlefield.
ماشاءالله
شرح ممتاز
جزاكم الله خيرا
نحبكم في الله أخونا محمدعلي
No compulsion in religion. Which i agree with, but if you leave and come back in one verse then allah will not accept your repentance. In other verses leaving the religion is to be punished and even leaving the religion in the hadith is to lead to execution. So is that compulsion? Yes it is, the definition of the word compulsion means to force. Its like saying that no one can force a religion on you but if you leave you will be killed for it. This does sound forced. Its like marrying someone they say that you cannot leave and force you stay with them. This kind of.philosophy creates disingenuous believers. Free will is important and.unfortuantely i have met ex muslims in iran whom tell me if they are found to be christian they are killed. No one can tell me that this is a peaceful religion if apostasy is punished by death.
I do fully agree with brother Mohammed Lantern. Certainly i dig more into it but this is what i have heard and it makes complete sense to me. There is no compulsion in Islam. Apostate are only punishable when they spread false information about Islam as people likely to belief in them since they are ex-muslim.
great exploration from our brother, I will add something here from my understanding, if we're living under Islamic state or authority and Islamic law, the law encourage the apostates people to leave the country , so they will not have punishment.
in that way they have the freedom to choose and protect the Islamic society at the same time.
coz no one will follow you and kill you out of the Islamic state.
Eid Mubarak my brothers and sisters.
Salam alaikom..aslo..everytime has its action as to situación too....
Ie the years of famine. ..had of theft was lifted also...also example under ottomans n i think b4....there were many years ..hundreds of them with only handful huddod punsihmnets..etc...
Plus...most apostasty laws r i think obligatory esp for the worst of them..n the insisting of the spreading of the falshood..ie truth and anti corrupción needs to be dealt with jsut like cáncer for sake of all...
Allah knows best...
Peace justis n mercy for .mankind
Why does Islamic society need to be protected? If it really is God’s religion, then it is pretty weak to be threatened by some guy with internet access.
@@ObiJohnKenobi67 😂so how it should be? your country threw your religion .. now you are asking us not to protect ours/ you have no shame
@@farihasumaiya I got a question, first of all, I’m a complete ignorant and a lot of people knows more than me that’s why I’m asking.
Isn’t Allah the one who decides who’s able to really see?
Then wouldn’t it mean that if a person leaves Islam, it’s actually Allah who decides who is gifted with the capacity of seeing the truth?
Isn’t Allah the judge that will judge them and punish them when their time comes?
If we are certain about what we follow it’s the truth, what’s the issue of people that are dubious on leaving Islam for being influenced by others?
Maybe that’s the way it should be and people that are not genuinely Muslim, are condemned to leave because of their weak faith.
If an Apostate is killed, wouldn’t it mean that we are taking away from this person the opportunity to in a future, reverting back to Islam again and maybe that journey is something that made their faith stronger?
I saw a video on someone explaining that people don’t understand the CONTEXT in which those Hathids were written, because being an APOSTATE nowadays is not the same as being an APOSTATE at those times, where leaving Islam didn’t only mean that you changed your faith, but actually meant that this person might join the enemy tribe with whom they were in constant war and persecution, and maybe reveal secrets that will give an advantage to the enemy in case of war. So it didn’t mean a threat to the religion but a threat to the lives of others.
And maybe that’s the reason why THIS law is different to men, and women? Knowing that in terms of faith, there is no difference between men and women in order to go to jannah?
And I’m not even talking about the “there should not be any compulsion in religion” which I believe it’s very important.
And something related to this;
If when a non Muslim decides to join Islam, is not said that he is CONVERTING, but instead he is REVERTING. Meaning that he once was Muslim, wouldn’t it mean that even a person that is a non Muslim, can be considered to as an ex Muslim?
@@Sammuel.98 1- allah decides who to see, and he lets the people who wants to see to see
2- second notice that these laws are only in sharia countries? Do you know that there is no sharia country in the world? So if a sharia country existed, there wouldn’t be influence to make you leave the religion
3- if someone left the religion in a sharia country, they will talk it to him and explain his misconceptions, allah said that no one who has a pure soul would learn about his religion fully and still deny it, they did then they know its the truth deep down, so they are guilty, and notice that is about non muslims, becoming an ex muslim is even harder than just simply denying islam without ever joining it
4- the apostate law only includes people who admit it publicly, which means these people want to cause fitnah, and weaken the faith of others, before the apostate law was given to us in islam, the hypocrites started leaving islam on the night and joining it on the morning, this spreading a fitnah and made people leave and join islam even on stomping their toe
5- “there is no compulsion in religion doesn’t mean religion is a joke, and you can’t punish an apostate who us secretly one, which means this law is specifically for the public ones
And furthermore, some statements aren’t for every situation, if jesus said “i love everyone” does that mean he loves bad people?
6- the reason a none muslim isn’t considered an apostate is because he was changed by his parents, which means he didn’t become an ex with his will
This us how we must learn to give dawah.
No watering down, mocking, nor forcing
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Just gently speaking the truth with common sense n wisdom.
May Allaah grant me the knowledge
@@AmicableAgnosticYou clearly didn’t watch the video.
@@AmicableAgnostic did u read the Bible
@@AmicableAgnostic They're not innocent though, they're leaving Islam and spreading corruption in the land, which is a sin, and punishment under the shariah is death.
Now you may disagree with that but that is your opinion, fact is according to the law he's guilty. I'll give an example so that you can understand better. In some country weed is legal, in some it's illegal and you could face capital punishment, doesn't make the guy having weed in a country that deemed it illegal not guilty, he's 100% guilty.
@@neku2741 He is guilty sure, doesn’t make the law unjust. Someone hiding Jews from the Nazis was guilty under German law but I wouldn’t say that law is good.
2:12 How is it a choice if you were born into and grew up in a Muslim family? When does a person like that make a choice to enter Islam?
4:21 So if someone asks you why you stopped praying, fasting, etc and you tell them you don't believe in Islam anymore, how in the world is that incitement?
I see no answers to these really solid questions.
@@sama2463 no they actually have pretty simple answers
If you are born a muslim, which means you are born on your natural disposition, and since these laws only work in a sharia country, it means you probably will be taught about the religion properly, then you probably won’t have misconceptions about it, if they had, then they should ask about them,
So yea he already entered islam before birth
The reason people who are born on other religions are ok is because they were born muslims but changed by their parents
On the other hand a one who isn’t changed by his parent is a muslim
On the second point, if its his secret then save it, the apostate law, the zina law, and other laws like that are actually put to stop the action from being normalized or spread, so you need four witnesses to it
Which means if you saw people do zina, you can’t tell the government about them unless three other witnesses saw them too
Which means only the ones who will publicly admit and want to cause fitnah will get punished
And this applies to apostasy too
@@cyberWarrior7519 You said the answers to my questions are simple, yet answered neither at all.
Where did the person born into a Muslim family make the CHOICE to enter Islam?
And how does telling someone you left Islam when it comes up in conversation constitute as INCITEMENT?
قوله تعالى: {إِنَّ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا ثُمَّ كَفَرُوا ثُمَّ آمَنُوا ثُمَّ كَفَرُوا ثُمَّ ازْدَادُوا كُفْرًا لَمْ يَكُنِ اللَّهُ لِيَغْفِرَ لَهُمْ..}
The problem is not with the democracy...the problem is the religious law....he is asking about freedom of thought , anyone can left their religion in non Islamic countries without any punishment.....why not in Islamic countries or law ..where is d freedom of thought ..
You are free to think whatever you want.
@@karimmezghiche9921lol.... what is the punishment for Apostasy (
a person who renounces a religious or political belief or principle.
abandoning a religious or political belief or principle.) and atheist( a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods) according to Quran .
there is no freedom of speech or freedom or religion anywhere in the UN world, my fellow man.
freedom is not a only determinant of good or bad.
You can't claim that secular government uphold to just or true system just because they are irreligious
Masha Allah. No selling out, no watering down
That "choice" isn't granted to people born into the religion. And it's disgusting to force someone to stay Muslim when a person's beliefs are NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.
You dont have to but just dont cause corruption among the people
@@Liba_n "cause corruption" people aren't computer programs. Just because other beliefs doesn't exist doesn't mean there's corruption.
Exactly
I don’t feel like that’s fair to say a country can’t forbid someone from among their people to keep their opinions that can cause a negative influence to themself. Are you American or do you live in the west? In the United States of America your life can be ruined for having opinions. If you don’t agree with the LGBT community you will be labeled as a bigot, people will get you fired from your job, talk horribly about you, get other people to turn their backs on you. You can’t misgender trans people. In Canada it’s illegal to misgender a trans person. People in the United States lose their jobs over being “racist”. All you have to do is accuse someone of racism and everyone hates them now. I’ll give you an example in my personal life, there’s a man at my job that told a Jewish man to order a black coffee like everyone else when the jewish man was double checking to make sure what we served was kosher. Now everyone I work with hates the guy and when he comes in they all talk about how racist he is. All the man said was order a black coffee like the rest of us. It’s an ignorant statement but it isn’t the end of the world. America is so corrupt because of what’s considered acceptable and unacceptable, so it isn’t fair to tell a muslim country that they are wrong for not allowing someone to tell everyone they left Islam. Keep it to yourself. What’s there to talk about? Also, they can leave that country. Nobody is forcing them to stay. Why do you want to be surrounded by a religion that you don’t like and the people that practice it.
@@Liba_nand what about muslims causing corruption in non islamic regions? Should they be treated the same way by non muslims?
Should someone who converts into islam be killed by his non muslim community. Wouldnt you be crying fowl if something like that happened.
What filthy hypocrites these islamists are .. sheesh..
(I know most muslims dont agree with apostacy laws.. my response was to the islamists who follow the religion by the word)
@ brother Joshua - brother my heart yearns for you to embrace Islam. I couldn't oversight the sincerity in your mannerism. Allah will surely shower his mercy on you, far greater than you can imagine after your shahada. Dont delay your shahada brother - in fact what worst can happen? Think about it. Just the few things you mentioned as improvements in your life caused from learning about Islam is enough for you to accept Islam as your primary way of life - that "outcome". You can reassess, the lack of those exact same "outcomes" in this world are continuing to cause so much evil in this world. E.g. mistreatment of parents, drinking, lies, lack of self esteem, depression. May Allah guide you to Islam fast. Please come back here as soon as possible so we can witness your shahada to our hearts content, come back to fitra brother, so we can extend our duas for your blessings, and eternal jannah. Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) wept over people who died without accepting Islam in their life time.
Please be a means to be a flag bearer of Islam in your family so you can call your parents to Islam with your good manners and wisdom before its too late. Your speedy action will surely transform many around you.
I would love to be united with you and your parents in the hereafter as believers together. May Allah عزوجل forgive my sins and grant Jannah!
It's horrible and unethical to kill someone just because they leave a religion (especially if they were born into it and didn't really "choose" to join when they were a child). If others also leave, that's because they weren't convinced by the religion either, which is the failure of the preachers in that case. You can't force people to stay in a religion by the same logic you can't force someone to join it.
If my best friend starts talking to girls and go in nightclubs, I will be influenced. That is the logic. It is not because I've always wanted to do that, but because someone had a bad influence on me.
(It also works for drugs and smoking)
@@imir_ you can’t stop yourself?
@@ashresearcher I can, but look at people today: some are very influenced by other.
@@imir_ you don’t kill people just living in a way you disagree with because other people get influenced. It’s those other people’s responsibility to not make mistakes
@@ashresearcher Correction : When I see someone publicly showing "Hey guys I left Islam !" I arrest him and give him a chance to at least lie about it. If he does not take his chance, fair enough, you know and he knew what was going to happen.
I mean, it would be a nightmare for an atheist to live in an Islamic country. Why would he publicly shout against Islam ? Surely if he still wants to live or work here he needs to follow the law, and it is not even hard : just tell I'm muslim, you don't even need to practise the religion or believe in it. If it is a nightmare for someone to tell people that he is muslim, then this guy should probably leave the country already. Isn't it a weird behaviour that someone really wants to influence people into leaving islam ?
Even after accepting islam, there's no submission. People are totally free in islam. There's no obligation in islam, only peace and love
There is no mention of death penalty for an apostate in the Quran. It’s taking some one’s life, Quran would have definitely addressed it. It didn’t.
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So wait, you can lie otherwise choose to be punished.
Weren't prophets characteristics was saying true whatever the situation is.
So why can't a honest person, say he doesnt believe anymore?
If you leave Islam, lying should be the least of your worries, you already guaranteed yourself hellfire, lying wouldn't change that. Lying for wordly things of course, would still get you punished in this world. So there's no issue in this reasoning, if an honest person chooses to say he left Islam, it's on him.
If you leave Islam but don’t tell anyone and still keep the outward appearance of being Muslim, there is no punishment according to a very strong opinion. As long as you’re not causing trouble by publicizing your apostasy, in other words.
@@eesaabdurrahman1569 why not just tell the truth?
@@pessimistkai5569 the truth about what? No one is asking a person if they are Muslim. If they offer the information that they have left Islam and remain upon this, and it is the truth, then the punishment is implemented.
I don’t really understand what “telling the truth” has to do with it. No one is demanding that anyone lie. But there are severe punishments for those who publicly leave Islam under Shariah.
@@eesaabdurrahman1569i meant yes what if someone asks that person in public. Why should he lie then and if he tells the truth be would be punished now?
Eid mubarak to everyone!
This hadith opposes Quran
Apostasy is not punished by death according to this hadith
Jabir reported: A bedouin came to the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, and gave the pledge of allegiance for embracing Islam. The next day he came with a fever and he said, “Cancel my pledge.” The Prophet refused three times and he said, “Medina is like a furnace. It expels its impurities and makes use of what is pure.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 1784, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1383
Verily, those who believed and then disbelieved, then believed and then disbelieved and increased in disbelief, never will Allah forgive them nor will He guide them to a right way.
Surah An-Nisa 4:137
Its only when someone do treason
A man who rejects Islam and wages war against Allah the Exalted and His Messenger.
Source: Sunan An-Nasa’i 4048
The punishment is pretty much plausible if you consider the consequence of leaving Islam in hereafter. Allah in Many Quranic Verses (Q 2:217; Q 3:91; Q 2:161-162; Q 5:5; 88:23-24)) give punishment after death for the apostate. So one who already left Islam not only will face these punishments but also will be the people who he convinced to leave Islam and as we know punishment of hell is far worse than punishment in this dunya or world.
Im not saying the person should be allowed to stay and start to proselyting. He should leave the community peacefully. Its almost like the person who choose to cancel his/her citizenship.
It is two types of apostasy one is peacefull and another is rebellion against the state.
Force someone who doesnt want to stay believer its seem to contradict this verse from
Q.10:99
Had your Lord so willed ˹O Prophet˺, all ˹people˺ on earth would have certainly believed, every single one of them! Would you then force people to become believers?
@@MohamedShire-rt1rt Yes he can without announcing it and saying openly he left Islam (also encouraging other to do the same). Also the verse you mentioned is talking about Non Muslims not apostates.
@@MohamedShire-rt1rtAlso it depends on the government body if they want to implement this law as some consider the law of apostasy to be optional in Sharia. As there is no verse in Quran which permit the capital punishment of death for apostasy.
@@rojahj6524it mat be optional for treason as long as the goverment consider the person a danger
May Allah grant you patience, wisdom, reward, strength and Al Ferdaous.
Brilliant explanation as usual!
Not really. He doesn't mention for example that over the centuries many Islamic scholars have explained that Q2:256 has been abrogated (Allah sends better verses, which he explains in the Quran) by verses revealed later in Surah 9 - else the Quran would also contradict itself. Eg:
Ibn Kathir says "But, this verse is abrogated by the verse of "fighting...Therefore, all people of the world should be called to Islam. If anyone of them refuses to do so, or refuses to pay the Jizya they should be fought till they are k i l l e d." [Tafsir of Ibn Kathir, Al-Firdous Ltd., London, 1999: First Edition, Part 3, pp. 37-38].
@@theastronomer5800your point has already been debunked
@@artemis1127can you please share a link showing it's abrogation is debunked? Would mean a lot to me as a revert, thank you.
Now i fully understand why the law of apostacy in islam,good clear explanation by brother Muhammad Ali.
you must be insane
@@Adi_Bossanacyou're Outta your skull
how?
@@Adi_Bossanac
MashAllah what a nice guy may Allah guide him 🤝🤝
Eid mubarak
He should guide you too:
Satan controls your anus.
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Rasul Allah said: If Satan approaches one of you when you are praying and Satan open your anus.
If Satan comes to you during your prayer and pulls out a hair from your anus, do no leave until you hear the sound or smell the fart coming from your anus.
Hadith 1252
If Satan approaches a Muslim during prayer and he trays to end it and if any feels that Satan blows in the anus then you should not leave you smell your own fart or hear the sound of it.
Abu Hurayrah
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Satan plays with the anus of the off spring of Adhaan.
So is important for Muslims to say the dua:
…(supplications) when entering or leaving the toilet, which are quite appropriate to the situation and place. Our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) taught us that when entering the toilet, we should say: Allaahumma innee aoodhi bika min al-khubthi wal-khabaaith (O Allah, I seek refuge with You from male and female devils). When leaving the toilet, he should say: Ghufraanak (I seek Your forgiveness).
Duraat = farting
And listen to the Ahadith what the teen is about the deen is about getting Shaytaan away from you. Os you know, you are going to the toilet Say: Oh Allah protect me from these devils you go in there with your left foot, the left foot you went in, you get a reward for that, the dua you said, Shaytaan will not see you.
Your are in the toilet, Shaytaan can’t see you anymore, this is in the Hadith.
If you don’t say the dua, what happens is the Shaytaan not only comes inside, but the Hadith of Tirmidi says he plays with your bowels. So you are inside there, your thinking your going to be out in five minutes, is taking you twenty minutes and you are not half way there… is because Shastan is pushing the shit up your anus.
The Hadith says says he plays with your bowels.
So if yo usay the dua, Allah protects you, then get up and do the Adhaan or something. The Hadith of Tirmidi says that the nyou say the adhaan, Shaytaan not only runs but the Hadith says duraat.
He runs and he’s running as his fart comes out.
If you say the Adhaan you make Shaytaan leak serious gas.
Muhammad:
If you say “bismillah" Satan won’t eat your food.
(Riyad as-Salihin 731)
how many apostates were killed at the time of the prophet for leaving islam?
Probably not too many at his time, but after he died so many left that Abu Bakr went on to fight the Ridda (Apostasy) Wars for almost two years to convince these people to return, with a sword...
@@theastronomer5800It wasn’t so much that they left the religion. It was because they rebelled against the state
@@OmarOsman98 Is there anything wrong with fighting against a "new state" that is imposed upon you, which abolishes your rules and traditions that you had for centuries or even thousands of years and tells you to worship things according to rules that this new "state" came up with?
Yes, you can be punished (possibly killed) for apostasy under Islamic jurisdiction. End of story, no time for running around the truth.
Just stumbling here. This explanation is not satisfactory and is very dangerous. I get it probably will be applied in a sharia state, but believing in democracy does not mean you agree to all that is currently in law. That's why laws are evolving and changing.
This is besides the point. One of my main gripes with Islam is that how can a religion claiming to be of love be so quick to resort to violence?
How do two people read the Quran and one comes out as a terrorist (like say Boko Haram in my country) while the other comes out as say The Muslim Lantern for example.
I genuinely struggle with these two questions deeply... Showing discontent should not be a death sentence. Showing disbelief should not be a death sentence. God is powerful and more than able to fight his own battles. Why do we have to kill people in the name of God?
Just me thinking out loud.
There has ALWAYS been violent sects in every religion throughout history.
Look at European Christian’s plundering and conquering and force converting Africans, south North Americans to Christianity…
Still happens today.
George bush himself said I’m doing gods work by invading Iraq… gog and magog
So should we blame all Christian’s?
@@masyaf897oh look no true scout man fallacy
discontentness and disbelief could come to a believer sometimes, they can work through that or ask questions about it. but theres a difference between THAT and publicly announcing you left islam or changed religions. God can and will punish those who disbelieve, and he gave us a choice to announce it or not. If someone initially muslim didnt wanna be muslim anymore they could leave the muslim country, if theyre staying then they shouldnt spread things like atheism and corruption, maybe this rule was more effective back then where if someone was vocal about something it spread much faster and caused alot more corruption
I hope this buddy have already accepted his shahada till now❤. He is there we all see ir.
People in this comment section really have a cult like thinking, this man just explained barbarism and people are saying “mashallah”
Define barbarism
@@loftilhan4868 extreme cruelty in this case the killing of an apostate for coming out as one, Muslim lantern pretty much guaranteed that this person will not become Muslim
@@kingvegetakinggoku2008 not all apostates are killed btw
Yes, please explain what is barbaric about this? With what Israel has been doing to Palestinians over the last 6 months is barbaric!
@@ayishabehardien6310Yes. It is barbaric. That man did NOT say that he supported the cleansing of the Palestinians. Stop making assumptions about people and stop spreading this whataboutism. Killing apostates is WRONG. IT IS INSANE THAT I EVEN HAVE TO SAY THIS.
Best explanation so far.
So in secret you leave Islam, them maybe prayer time comes and a brother asks you "are you not going to the Mosque"? You have to lie and say "I am coming soon", else you would have declared your apostasy publicly and therefor you "have chosen to me k*lled"? Am I getting it right?
Lol no
JazakAllah'u khairan
This is one of the most objective focused dawa Chanels. I think all Dawah group should get together and standardize thier approach and find the best effective way for Dawah
The thing is, there's no 1 way to give Dawah, everyone has their approach and many approaches clearly seem to work. As long as your Dawah's fundemental is Tawhid, it's fine.
thank you for explaining this brother, it makes a lot of sense.
Democracy describes freedom of religion. So punishing someone for leaving it makes your point invalid
Not actually.
@@Psycho_synthesis2 actually yes. This is ome next level IS nonsense.
I agree, killing apostates and punishing them in any way is stupid. It would be better to just ban Islam.
he described a theocracy as a democracy. Besides being stupid, he is a bad person.
@@sjaakafhaak5441 not democracy, the concept of democracy doesn't have laws. The next level nonsense is your ignorance. The human right declaration has what you say. Not democracy, democracy is an idea, not set of laws
Whenever you have a doubt brother first ask Allah Subhanahu Ta'ala, the Creator Himself. He is Al Hayy, Alive and he listens and answers.
I embraced Islam more than 30 yrs ago but Alhamdulillah I luv Islam as I loved it first day. You won't regret in sha Allah. Allah Subhanahu Ta'ala is very loving ,make him your best friend. Always keep him on the top in your priority list. Whatever you do do with an intention of pleasing Him. May Allah Subhanahu Ta'ala bless you and protect you from all bad things in life. Ameen.
The thing is, I was born Christian and became Muslim in my twenties. I didn't know about this opinion when I converted. It causes me a lot of pain and doubt. My family respected my change of religion because they raised me to become an adult and choose my life course for myself. I feel this is right because Allah gives everyone free will and that should be honored, specifically regarding our choice of faith when we are older.
Another thing, is when I converted I was living in Germany. I was not allowed to wear hijab and work at the same time, I left my job to wear hijab. I don't believe anyone should be coerced out of practicing Islam, and I find it hypocritical to think it is OK to coerce people out of other faith practices. I just can't agree with it, it is hurtful given my experience becoming Muslim and being so restricted. But at least German government didn't try to kill me....??
I am so lost on this, my imaan weakens when I think of it. This law just doesn't fall in like with love, compassion, free will, or understanding. 💔 Why is it so terrible to disagree on this ruling?
Aslm sister you said you were a Christian prior to Islam. If you look at deuteronomy 13:6 you will find apostasy law there.
@@nsullivan516 wa Aleikum Salam, I have read this, but it doesn't really address anything in my doubts as I posted.. The thing is that protestant Christians do not abide by Old Testament laws, and it is not much different from the concept of abrogation in Islam.
Where is the apostasy law in the Quran and why couldn't it possibly be an abrogated law as other laws were abrogated?
My doubt is about it being ethical and seeing secular law in this case as being more compassionate and respectful of free will. My experience in Germany was painful enough being discriminated against in the workplace for wearing the hijab, as many Muslim women there are. Surely you don't agree that it is right? If someone wants to practice their faith, whether born into it or not, we should be able to do so.
Christian legal history isn't my problem. And wouldn't you want a new Muslim in a Christian family to be respected anyway? Surely when it applies to Muslims you would argue it's unethical for Christians to prevent conversion. So why can't we afford other people the same rights out of respect for free will as Allah has established?
Treason has been punished by death by governments throughout history and still today in USA, Russia, India and China.
Apostasy equates to Treason in a Muslim Sharia government.
Anyone can leave Islam and not practice. They will not get killed.
But if they publicly announce it, try to influence other Muslims to atheism or whatever, insult Islam and prophet Muhammad pbuh.
If they keep doing that. Then what do you expect will happen in a Muslim country with sharia government?
They are free to leave that country whenever. They will not be forced to stay in that country.
Treason against Goverments (e.g. USA, Russia etc) is okay.
But Treason against God is bad? 😂😂
It’s very simple for me. I don’t see any problems.
@@jaciemokidm609you should listen again to what muhammad ali said in the video. The reason for the apostasy law punishment. It to prevent people going out and openly declaring to the public their disbelief and causing corruption in the land. If someone want to privately become a disbeliever then God will deal with them on judgement day.
@@jaciemokidm609 Salan sister, Ive responded to your comments in another thread. I pray to Allah that he keeps you steadfast in the religion and you have peace.
Man, listening to your blessed knowledge, makes my heart humm wirh joy.
A message from me, to one and all.. Listen,, absorb,, verify,, & acknowledge everything this one of best of human beings has to say to you all.
May the Almighty Allah guide everybeing on to the correct, truest & the only path.
ya Allah aAmeen
My explanation:
1. Maintaining social cohesion, as Islamic society is built off of Islamic values.
2. Ensuring allegiance of Muslims to the Ummah, which is done through shared belief.
3. Neutralising the potential ideological imperialism of your enemies.
4. Apologetic: The apostate can lie about being a Muslim, and get away with it.
5. Liberalism: Shouldn't every nation have the right to self-determination?
What utter nonsense.
@@archiebald4717 🤡
so basically youre the same as a nazi
@@rivvy2138 Where in the 5 points were there anything about German Ethno-nationalism, Lebensraum or the Darwinistic racial supreme traits of the Aryan Ubermensch?
Edit- All modern societies require their subject to ally with them, i.e., citizenship oath, all societies have limits on free speech and free thought, and even the U.S, the centre of modern liberalism will lock up journalists when its dodgy business is under speculation. France, where philosophical liberalism originated from, will lock you up if you dare to question the authenticity of the holocaust and burn their national flag. The U.S is known to enforce their schoolchildren to chant the pledge of allegiance, sing the national anthem and stand up for war memorials. France requires foreigners to pledge allegiance to the secular state and believe in "liberty, equality, fraternity" before receiving the citizenship. Are they also Nazis, or is it just Islam, because Islam is a premodern civilisation that, like all premodern civilisation, runs by religion and not secular-liberalism, and has religious elements shaping it's governance, social ethics, traditions, etc? Are almost all premodern civilisations fascist because their civilisation was based off religion, i.e., Chinese Confucianist Society, Japanese Shinto society who believed their emperor was god himself, Hindu Indian Society with a rigid racial caste system, Judaism with Halacha law who believed they were god's chosen race, or pre-industrial Europe, which was run by the Canon Law of the church and had knights bearing crosses? Ironically, fascism is a secular post-industrial ideology, so wouldn't it be fair to say that the contemporary U.S and France are closer to Nazi Germany than the Islamic Caliphates & Sultanates ever were?
@enotsemil First, a country is very much different from a belief. Countries are real. They're objective. Religion is not. Second, None of these countries will murder you for not wanting to say the pledge or salute some dumb flag.
I mean do you hear yourself lmao? I don't think yall do that's why you think this way. The sheer gull one has to have to say "yes I think we should murder ppl who preach against our religion because we are the majority in the country" lmfao.
May guide this brother, he seems very sincere. May Allah make it easy for him.
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By: Al-Haythami
Pg 334 Hadith 1248
PEOPLE IN THE CHAIN: MEN OF AL-SAHTH
Rasul Allah said: If Satan approaches one of you when you are praying and Satan open your anus.
If Satan comes to you during your prayer and pulls out a hair from your anus, do no leave until you hear the sound or smell the fart coming from your anus.
Hadith 1252
If Satan approaches a Muslim during prayer and he trays to end it and if any feels that Satan blows in the anus then you should not leave you smell your own fart or hear the sound of it.
Abu Hurayrah
Book: Al Badr al Munir
Pg 300
Satan plays with the anus of the off spring of Adhaan.
So is important for Muslims to say the dua:
…(supplications) when entering or leaving the toilet, which are quite appropriate to the situation and place. Our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) taught us that when entering the toilet, we should say: Allaahumma innee aoodhi bika min al-khubthi wal-khabaaith (O Allah, I seek refuge with You from male and female devils). When leaving the toilet, he should say: Ghufraanak (I seek Your forgiveness).
Duraat = farting
And listen to the Ahadith what the teen is about the deen is about getting Shaytaan away from you. Os you know, you are going to the toilet Say: Oh Allah protect me from these devils you go in there with your left foot, the left foot you went in, you get a reward for that, the dua you said, Shaytaan will not see you.
Your are in the toilet, Shaytaan can’t see you anymore, this is in the Hadith.
If you don’t say the dua, what happens is the Shaytaan not only comes inside, but the Hadith of Tirmidi says he plays with your bowels. So you are inside there, your thinking your going to be out in five minutes, is taking you twenty minutes and you are not half way there… is because Shastan is pushing the shit up your anus.
The Hadith says says he plays with your bowels.
So if yo usay the dua, Allah protects you, then get up and do the Adhaan or something. The Hadith of Tirmidi says that the nyou say the adhaan, Shaytaan not only runs but the Hadith says duraat.
He runs and he’s running as his fart comes out.
If you say the Adhaan you make Shaytaan leak serious gas.
Muhammad:
If you say “bismillah" Satan won’t eat your food.
(Riyad as-Salihin 731)
So Islam would rather have a lot of hypocrites in the society that honest disbelievers?
Alhamdulillah. May Allah SWT guide our brother and his loved ones. May Allah wt make it easy for them.
Well, well, well. This clip compares well with the Medieval Inquisition trials. Actually, I think they were probably fairer. So, what commentary do we hear about 5m 40s into clip. 'If a person comes out publicly and declares that he is leaving Islam. Then we have a process. That he is asked to repent. If he does not repent, he is punished with capital punishment. And that will only happen if he chooses to die' . So there you have it. Stay under our dictatorship, think as we do, do as we do, .. or die. Be interesting to know how many people in Islam really believe in its beliefs?
جزاك الله خير اخوي من القدس الشريف
ازاي المنظمات الانسانية في العالم بيدعمو فلسطيني بيؤمن بحد الردة و بعدين يدعوا انهم ضد الارهاب و المسلمين ملهمش علاقة بيه
@TheMuslimLantern how is this different from a young teen joining a gang and being punished for leaving? Or a fascist dictatorship ? Say a man doesn’t want to be Muslim, he tells his family in confidence but then the family tells the local police - he is questioned, forced to repent to save his life. He has to lie to save his life, but now he is labeled a “hypocrite” - how exactly is that not compulsion? You live in the UK, if similar laws were places unto you to reject Islam for some ideology and you were labeled a potential threat under punishment of death, would you not say your civil liberties would be violated? Or would you accept it as part of the laws of land? It is not well explained at all.
I think he answered it. All he has to do is, not going public about it.
@@Psycho_synthesis2he wants to drink, he eventually have to go public, some muslim caught him drinking and asked him why, he doesn’t want to lie so he said he left islam. The muslim reported it to the authorities, what’s gonna happen now to that individual?
Because hadith is not from Islam, its pagan book, there is no killing of whoever leaves Islam in Qur'an. There is no compulsion in religion. This verse is not only for non muslim, but for every living human on earth, either if he is already in Islam or not. Also there are verse about people who believe, then disbelieve, then believe, then disbelieve, still no death punishment to them. Islam is truth, Qur'an is truth. Sunnis and Shias are cult, I call you to the faith of peace, the true faith, and peace to you.
@@recitacijekurana4874i assume you are a “quran only” muslim. Im not a muslim (yet lol) but curious about the position you hold. Like for example, ive heard the hadiths teach you how to pray (5 dailys, etc). If you dont follow hadith, how do you pray?
@@tonytouch516 I am not praying, because there is no explanation of how to do a "ritual prayer" in Qur'an. I don't feel like reciting something in Arabic that you don't even understand and do repetitive actions actually connects you to God. I feel like reading His Words, thinking about them deeply, fearing His Punishment, thinking about creation of Earth and Heavens and ourselves, doing good deeds, all of this for the sake of God's mercy, and entering His Paradise. this are the deeds that bring you closer to God. Because God said that the Qur'an is a guidance for the people of understanding, there was no mention of another book besides it, and since majority of Qur'an's ayats are very precise and simple at the same time, we can assume that we can look up for Guidance only from it.
Follow up question. What if someone wants to leave islam to join another religion? The explanation says that the person is not punished if they dont publicly renounce or lie during repentance period but what about a person that simply starts following a different religion and when asked about it, responds that yes he is following something else now?
As far as I know there can be 0 reson for someone to become apostate historically in islamic state, because he would be raised with muslim parents, in muslim dominant culture, he won't see any criticism of islamic values, being muslim is beneficial for that person with strong community(and losing that is not good for anyone).
So there was little chance for anyone to become apostate except through joining enemy or being in contact with them.
ما شاء الله شرح جميل
اللهم زده علما و نورا
This is honestly probably the best video explaining this highly controversial topic.
What about someone that was born into Islam? They didn't choose to be muslim so how can they know if that person really "left" islam when in reality they were never truly muslim
Hello Brother, the word "Muslim" means "a follower" of God.
Now, in Islam, everyone is born a Muslim, in a state of "fitra" which means natural or original disposition - that's why anyone who accepts Islam is called a REvert.
Those whose parents have made them a fully fledged Muslim, if they wish to leave, the same ruling applies BUT ONLY if that person has reached the age of discernment (not needing adult assistance).
This only applies in a Sharia state.
This law isn't exclusive to Islam, but a similar kind of law can also be found in Deuteronomy 13 and 17
Of the Torah and Old Testament.
The church used to sanction the practice of this back when it had more authority to do so.
However, Islam is the only religion that I know of that still carries out this type of law.
Basically, if you choose Islam, there's no undo button. In democracy, you can change your choices. You don't have to forever live with bad choices. One of the reasons why I see apostasy punishment as a big problem in any religion. It's is like entering a to a jail on your own accord to lose your freedom.
What I think is that Islam is really serious about the image it has, and that MAY BE one of the reasons you don't have the undo button, Islam says no hurry, do research and see if it is true and when you are pretty sure, then accept it.
If you say, what if something about Islam comes in my knowledge afterwards, I would say that no one will accept Islam based on the micro details, see the basic ideology and if you believe that is true, anything else can be resolved.
Also a reason for this law is that there were people in Madina who had this habit of becoming Muslim in the morning and then going back in evening so to weaken the Muslim community (it is in the Quran) and that is what Islam prevents, lowering the morals of society and as MA said that making a excuse for doing the sins in Islam.
I guess it is clear
جزاك الله خيراً يا محمد
May Allah guide you Joshua!
MachaAllah very clear explanation
What sort of logic is that ... killing someone is OK
God is love
So definitely, apostate law is man made
Pure brutality n insane to kill someone for leaving Islam
Subhanallah that was so beautifully explain brother! I never had many doubts about Islam but i myself struggled a bit with understanding why would kill apostates but now i understand. Jazakallahu ghair
beautiful explanation
كنت اشعر ان الإسلام ليس منتشر
وان هناك الكثير من الناس لايعرفون الاسلام او انه هو الدين الصحيح ،كان هذا الامر يشغل بالي كثيراً واردد أريد ان افعل شيء لانتشار الإسلام بشكل اوسع والجميع يعرف ماهو الإسلام بأي طريقه حتى في بعض الاحيان افكر ف ان اكمل الجامعه ف الخارج لهذا السبب ولكن قابلني ظروف ولا أستطيع ولن استطيع،
ولكن عندما رأيت فيديوهاتك وانك تدعو الي الله عزوجل وماشاء الله الكثير يدخل الإسلام بعد الحديث معك جعلت قلبي يشعر بكثير من الفرح ان هناك من حقق رغبتي ، ربنا يجعلك سبباً لمن اهتدي.
جزاك الله خير وجزاك
وجمعك الله مع رسوله عند الحوضِ .
Why do we choose to override what Allah says in the Quran with Hadith?? There is no apostasy law or anything of the sort if you decide to leave Islam. Brothers Allah is way more merciful than that, and people who decide to leave are the ones who are truly losing. May Allah guide us all.
Quran and hadith are the same thing though. Mohammed's words. Consider the Quran the first ever hadith volume without narration and some pretty reliable sources.
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@@graiitex572 Am I wrong?
@@purpp-esque1711 Certainly
@@graiitex572 Explain.
Im watched this on the stream ❤