Where to Find London's Lost Canal
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- London is home to a number of canals- such as the Regent's Canal and the southern stretch of the Grand Union Canal.
There are also a number of lost canals associated with the city; waterways which have long since vanished having been filled in many years ago... the most obvious example being the former 'Grand Surrey Canal' which, for some 160 years, used to flow between Rotherhithe and Camberwell.
Despite no longer being in existence, long sections of the Grand Surrey Canal are still visible if you know where to look (similar in a way to an abandoned railway line), and in this video I'll be taking you on a walk of the former route, telling you all about the canal's history- plus some other local points of interest- as we go along!
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Chapters
00:00 Intro
02:12 Greenland Dock, SE16
06:13 Grand Canal Avenue, SE16
09:39 Canal Approach, SE8
11:07 Trundley's Road, SE8
13:03 Surrey Canal Road, SE14
14:53 Old Kent Road, SE15
16:40 The Peckham Branch, SE15
19:30 Burgess Park, SE5
25:41 Outro
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If you're interested in visiting the 'London Canal Museum', you can find more information on their website:
www.canalmuseum.org.uk
The Moby Dick Pub:
www.mobydickgreenlanddock.co.uk
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Credits:
Images:
1920s Canal Footage: Rick88888888 TH-cam Channel
Whaling Ship Footage: 'The North Water' (BBC, 2021)
North Peckham Civic Centre Invitation Card: Southwark Local History Library & Archive
Samuel Jones Stationary Factory, 1960: ideal-homes.org.uk
Maps: National Library of Scotland
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Walk Through the Park (TrackTribe)
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I’ve lived all my long life in London and lived and worked all over the city. I’ve numerous books about London’s architecture, geography, transport, history etc and in the last week I’ve just discovered your work, here on YT, and am learning things I didn’t know. Thank you.
That’s very kind of you to say Nobby, thank you!
Same for me, learning loads about my home city, thank you
Another reason why TH-cam is better than regular TV. Thank you 👍
Thank you so much; really appreciate your kind words. Stay well Adam.
Thankyou for doing this for us, as an Australian I never knew that I needed to see this and know this, but this is well done and very interesting.
Thankyou sir.
It's a pleasure Darryl, thanks for watching and thank you for the kind words- much appreciated. n
Absolutely brilliant. I used to live and work round this area and I had no idea about so much of the history you've recounted. One thing that doesn't get mentioned often is that the creation and development of Burgess Park took real grit, determination (and occasional subterfuge) by long-term residents and council workers who fought off generations of local politicians who kept on trying to use sections of the park for anything other than green space and recreation. The creation of each inch of that park was and is a labour of love. It was first conceived of as a park in the 1940s, but only really got going in the 1980s and - unlike most parks in London - is still growing in size.
What a lovely comment, thank you so much Darriendastar.
Love your thoughts on Burgess Park; very well said 😊 stay well my friend and thanks again.
I am running out of new ways to show appreciation for these superb London stories. Thank you Rob for another corker. 😊
Bless you ☺️ It’s an absolute pleasure
27 minutes ago I had no idea that this canal ever existed. It makes you realise just how much London continues to change, not just over centuries but also recent decades as well. An excellent and vital addition to documenting the Capital's History. Thank you Rob!
Such a lovely comment David, many thanks indeed 😊 Stay well.
Wonderfully researched and presented Rob. I really do hope that the mural on the former North Peckham community centre is saved for posterity as the butterfly mural was.
Thank you, and I do too… stay well
This brings back so many good memories. I’m born and brought up all around these areas. Burgess park was our activities. Used to go fishing at the lake. There was a go kart track in the park. The old church. My friends took my dog there one night and he wouldn’t go on the grounds. He was pulling back and barking. So we always said it was haunted. I now live around the corner of Surrey Canal Road. So I obviously knew it was a canal but seeing the aerial view of how it used to look is nostalgic. My Dad told us stories of how it used to be around this area back in the good old days.
Darren, this is a fantastic comment. Really enjoy reading your memories!
Cheers and stay well 😉
The public bathhouse reminded me of my student days back in the 60s. As one of my many holiday jobs, I worked at the 1900s baths/library in Plumstead High Street, South London. I used to dread having to clean the individual baths after coalmen came in to bathe after a day delivering sacks of coal!
Very evocative memory! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks again for yet another truly superb video Rob. Fascinating stuff, 99% of which was unknown to me (naturally the 1% I did know was the Fuller's pub 🙄). Some of your vids are a bit of a trip down memory lane for me, but most are absolutely fascinating, superbly made, enlightening brilliance! Thanks for all your work Rob.
Peter, that means so much to me. Thank you- from the bottom of my heart- for your wonderful financial support and kind words. I truly appreciate it. Stay well my friend.
I used to walk over the bridge, with the canal below as a nine year old , Childeric primary school had our sports day in deptford park, across the bridge, as a teenager on summer days walking from New Cross , across the bridge, to Surrey docks, train station, as was, now surry quays , and walked in the old park with my young family before it became millwall new stadium.
i didn’t realise this walkway was once a canal. i even looked at the miles markers and didn’t make the connection. i also always wondered what that bridge was all about. even the people refurbishing it didn’t know. seems so obvious now. nice video
Many thanks! ;-)
Another great video Rob! I have noticed that here in both the US and the UK the high rises built to house the urban poor might have seemed like wonderful ideas when proposed but fairly quickly went downhill.
Many thanks indeed Patrick! And yes, you’re quite right… Stay well sir
So true
Nah they are good, the ones built in the 1950s onwards the social housing were very good, unfortunately since the 1980s local councils can't be bothered maintaining them and with the loss of things like half way houses, they started shoving people in them who really should have been elsewhere with more support, ex cons, immigrants, teens fresh out of the care system that sort of thing, they turned what were designed as family homes into dumping grounds for everyone they couldn't be bothered with.
As I work in this area and know it well, I've thoroughly enjoyed this video. I tell all my trainees on my learner bus all about the history of the canal but not in as much detail as you've gone into. I certainly learnt a few things. Thanks Rob!!
Such a lovely comment Matthew, thank you sir 😊 Cheers and stay well
Another fascinating history lesson, Rob! I'm always amazed at how much information you pack into your videos and greatly enjoy your friendly, engaging narration. Someday I'll make another trip across The Pond and would love to explore many of the places you've covered. Take care and we'll see you next time!
Thank you so much bassbaritoneguy, that means a lot to me. Hope you make it back here soon ;-) Stay well sir and thanks again.
As an American, I freely admit that I find British and European history daunting. It goes back far and spreads wide. I am a total fan of all things British. From the comedy invasion, Dr. Who, Merlin and Robin, the fantastic Olympics,Tony Robinson’s dig team, and much more. I waited breathlessly for Tony and team to unearth the find of the century. I am a mystery fan and always search for British authors. One of my favorites is Christopher Fowler’s Bryant and May series about aging detectives. Bryant probably knew the underground history as well as you. Now you can provide the above ground as well, thank you.
A wonderful comment Lois, thank you so much. I must say, American history is fascinating too- I’ve always been interested in it thanks to having an American Grandpa ☺️ Stay well
Done some research there Rob, the steamline of the roads just shows u where the canals were. Right up my street this, well done Rob👍
Cheers Dave, glad you enjoyed it! Hope you're keeping well mate.
I used to volunteer at the London Canal Museum several years back until my arthritis got the better of me. One day, we were 'raided' by the RSPCA after they recieved a complaint about a horse being mistreated on the first floor. The guy saw the funny side when we showed him that the horse in question was a model with sounds effects (Princess Anne actually came for the grand unvieling ceremony of it). One of the guys there had a boat with The Surrey Canal Company painted on it.
Another canal which befell the same fate as the Croydon Canal was the one between Kensington and Chelsea Harbour and is now The London Overground line. Keep up the good work mate.
Ha ha! What a great comment! Thanks Jenny ;-)
I'd love to have seen that boat with the Surrey Canal Company branding, as I'm sure you know that's very rare indeed now!
By the way, this slot was originally going to be a video about Liverpool, but I had to cancel that due to really bad weather up there (it needs a lot of outside filming)... I've got it planned though and will be making it soon, possibly early autumn ;-) Thanks again and stay well.
@@Robslondon The livery was a replica on a fairly ' modern boat called "Felis Catus 2". The owner, Mike Stevens, sadly passed away in 2008😥
@@jennythescouser Sorry to hear that Jenny.
I don’t live in London, but I found that incredibly interesting. Thank you😊
Many thanks! Stay well 😉
Another enjoyable Video Rob. I'm from the UK but married to an Australian, we live in Australia but when I come home, I always stay in Kings cross, because I use to live in Islington. This January I visited the cannel Museum, and I really enjoyed it. It's well worth a visit.
Lovely comment russyboy; much appreciated thank you. Stay well.
Just when you think Rob can't beat his last video, up pops another classic. I do love the canals, and it's such a shame that some were lost over time. Nice mention of Damilola too RIP.
Thank you so much Paul.
I wanted to talk about Damilola a little more, although I’ll be honest, I couldn’t bring myself to; what happened to that poor lad and his family is just too utterly sad.
Thanks so much again for your support mate; stay well.
@@Robslondon Yeah, very sad.
Thank you, Rob! A month, or 2, ago, I had seen a documentary film (no narration, just taken from the top of a city bus journey) here on YT... taken along Old Kent Road in the early 1970's. Back then, you could still see the suggestion of the canal, on the west side of the road. My curiosity led me to discover this lost canal, finding old maps and photos online. Your wonderful documentary has now put it all together. Delightful!
Oh wow! I’d love to see that, will have to look it up as footage of the old canal is very, very rare! Thanks for the kind words 😊
@@Robslondon it's on the British Pathe channel, here. That is a great channel for history footage!
My husband's family lived in Cowan Street, which used to run on the edge of Burgess Park. The street was demolished in the 1970s. Opposite was.a printworks and book binders where my mother in law worked before having her children. All these locations are familiar to me. I go shopping in Surrey Quays, I walk to SQ Farm to see the animals, and Burgess Park and OKR are all old haunts from my husband's youth. (No one likes us, we don't care!) My Father in law died recently, and he *was* Camberwell and Peckham! I've traced his father's heritage back in the area for several generations, and the Surrey canal would have been familiar to the ancestors. Thank you for this video, it's made me a bit emotional, but proud, because my daughter carries on this heritage.
Thanks so much for this Claire; a really moving comment which I enjoyed reading very much. Thanks so much for sharing and best wishes to you and your family. Stay well.
THANKS ROB FOR THIS POTTED HISTORY GIVES ME SOMETHING ELSE TO EXPLORE IN MY HOME TOWN
It's a pleasure; thanks for watching.
Wow, wow, wow Rob! What an interesting video, thank you so much. Been meaning to go to the canal museum for years! I’ve got to go now. Love the effort you put into them, really appreciate it. Keep going, you are doing a fabulous job!
Thank you so much Caroline! Hope you make it to the museum soon :-) Thanks again and have a great weekend.
Thank you so much ✋️ I really enjoyed that !! I have lived for many years on a travelling narrowboat and so I am really interested in tales of canals. Your research is excellent and your presentation perfect.. Well done..so professional ! 👏 🙌 👌
Such a lovely comment MrJohn, thank you! Enjoy the rest of the weekend
thank you for this. i live at the location you describe as the old Canterbury Bridge crossing. there are several remaining references to the name Canterbury around Ilderton Road [including the ghost of a pub]. i often think of what it would be like to look out my window onto a canal - but here we see the ugly reality of poor Surrey Canal's end state. good news is that the new Overground station [if completed[ will be called Surry Canal.
Great comment Phillip, thank you
Fantastic Fact's of places I know well as always I spend my time watching and exclaiming, wow, wow, and that's great.. The Jack. Johnson and the oldest boxing club was fascinating!!! And of course our Henry Cooper 🤩 had a pub the Henry Cooper on Old Kent Rd... Very well researched again the pleasure was all ours💪🇬🇧💯 Thanks Rob, you do London Proud👍😁✌️🎬🧐
Bless you Gary, cheers! I was actually going to mention Sir Henry Cooper in this video: as you may know, just behind the Eddystone Tower is the 'Riverside Youth Club' which Henry opened in 1969; there's a photo of him there. I had to cut it out though as the video was getting too long! ;-)
Thanks for this video Rob. It took me back to the days when I lived in South London and worked in the Old Kent Road - based at the Gas Works. There is one point though, the Whiting Works is nothing to do with fish. Whiting was made from ground chalk (calcium carbonate) and was used, among other things, to make paints such as distemper. It is still used in artists' materials and as a degreasing agent.
Keep up the fascinating videos. They remind me of the years I spent in London.
Thanks so much Brian! Yes, I'm kicking myself now about the whiting; a few people have mentioned it! Cheers and stay well ;-)
Thanks for a fascinating video. A reminder that at one time the canal network was a key method of moving goods around - then it was barges, these days it's 40 tonne artics on the motorways.
Lovely comment Robert, thank you.
ha! i lived on Greenland Dock! 2:17 right at the end, on the right! watching Canary Wharf being built from my living room window!
another amazing video! thanks Rob!
Thank you so much Sarahlouise!
Nice video, thanks. In the 1970's I worked at the long since defunct United Glass factory, which was accessed along Mercury Way, the canal at the rear of the place still had water in it as well as lots of garbage!
Nice comment, thank you! 😉
Brilliant video Rob. As a long time Kennington resident I've often pored over old OS maps of the neighbourhood and wondered about that canal. Thank you for filling in a lot of gaps.
Thank you so much; glad to be of service! Stay well.
Hay Rob,#884.Belting vid,that must have been a load of work.Thanks mate.
Thanks so much Mike! It gave me sore feet I’ll be honest! 😄😉 Cheers and stay well.
As a kid I always used to look out for the mural whilst going by on the 21 Bus
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Thank you so much for this fascinating account. I was born in this area, as was my mother, though I moved away from Camberwell aged six, some sixty-two years ago. Something subliminal must have rubbed off though, since I have lived on a narrowboat for nearly twelve years.
A beautiful comment, thank you so much for sharing.
Keep up the great work Rob
You’re a gentleman Paul; thank you so much mate. Thanks again and have a great weekend 😄
@@Robslondon Love your work. Keep well, and have a good weekend yourself.
Hi Rob, what an inciteful and enjoyable journey. The passion for local history that you share is awesome and you are keeping history alive for all to see. The single linear story you created was particularly enjoyable and the maps were a great way to follow along. Thanks again. Lance.
Thank you so much Lance 😊 Truly appreciate the kind words; stay well sir.
There used to be a spur off the regents canal near Camden’s parkways and runs parallel to the Euston rail line with a bridge still existing
Interesting! Thank you
@@Robslondon from the Chinese restaurant barge under the car park and along park village east and onwards to somewhere behind Kendal house.. all got filled in with postwar rubble
I just had this video pop up from your channel. Such a charming offering. I used to manage commercial property all round Southwark. Thanks Rob, Utuber's most modest Tuber.
Bless you Brian ☺️ Thanks my friend and stay well.
Thank you so much for this. I do not live in London, but am a keen amateur historian. This is an excellent walkthrough. I just came upon your channel and have firmly subscribed! Thank you again.
Thank you so much HeimirTomm; it's great to have you here! Stay well and thanks again.
Yes I did enjoy that Rob. I actually remember the canal when it was still a canal! I was born in Camberwell.
Ah, cheers Michael! 😉
Another beautifully researched and presented video Rob. I have strolled around the lovely Greenland Dock many times, but never ventured Southward as you have here. Good to see that so much of the magnificent canal infrastructure survives if you take the trouble to look, as you have.Like you, I hope that the Civic centre murals survive the demolition men, even if the building itself would be no loss. Passmore Edwards libraries and baths are dotted all over London. I remember the one on Romford Road Manor Park from my youth.
Lovely comment John, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts.
Hi from Tampa, Florida, Rob! Just stumbled upon this & truly enjoyed it, ta! Will be sure to check out more videos.
Thanks Dennis! Much appreciated!
So interesting, thank you Rob. I think we should restore it. Not only would it enhance the recreational facilities, but it would also provide green transportation opportunities. (While we are at it, we should restore all the Beeching railways!)
Thank you, marj1585 and well said!! I've been thinking the canals may see a renaissance one day in terms of transporting cargo... Stay well :-)
@@Robslondon You too!
Wow, as always, the best, please just keep doing these videos, reminds me of home. The best.
Bless you ☺️ And don’t worry; I will! 😉 Stay well
I thought this was going to be about the Croydon to Rotherhythe canal, which you do give reference to. Maybe that will be a future video.
Thank you for researching and making this video.
Many thanks Jean; yes the Croydon canal is worthy of a video in it's own right... I'll give it a think ;-)
@@Robslondon What are now ponds in parks were feeder lakes. I look forward to watching 🙂
So sad that the North Peckham Civic Centre is under threat. We used to go to a Pantomine there whilst at Primary School, they were always great shows, but this was before the days that "stars" from soap opera used to take part. From Canal Bridge on the Old Kent Road I can just remember seeing water in the canal and barges delivering timber to the yard on the north side of the road. I think it was about 1969 and we were on a bus going to visit my Grandad who lived further along the Old Kent Road. Next time we went to visit, the barges and water had gone.
This is a wonderful and very moving comment Richard. Thank you for sharing your memories. Stay well.
Really interesting slice of history and memory trigger
Thank you so much Robert ☺️
An excellent documentary/walk along the canal. Interesting and informative. Thank you.
Many thanks for the kind words.
Fascinating stuff Rob, really well presented as always.
Much appreciated John, hope you’re keeping well
Excellent video as always! 👍
Thanks! ;-)
The yard office was like a gate house. Goods checked in and out.
I really enjoy watching your films/documentaries, they are very good, interesting and sympathetically made, and nice musical background choices. Thanks Rob! As for the vanished canals, it would be lovely if they were still here in some shape or form water adds something relaxing to a city.
Really lovely comment Sharon, thank you so much. Appreciate the kind words. Stay well.
Blimey, I used to live off the Old Kent Road (in the 00s) and must've passed by that Civic Centre (walking and bus) hundreds of times and never even noticed it! Think I 'll have to go back and have a proper look and a mosey around Burgess Park. Cheers! 😎
Thanks Darren! Enjoy your exploring ;-)
Fascinating, I love the old photo of the drained canal and the long mural ❤
Thank you 😊 Yes, those are my favourite parts too
Excellent programme.
Thank you.
Great stuff. You got yourself a new subscriber👍🏽
Thank you! Nice to have you here
Thanks for another cracking trip around London and so informative an well put together 😊
Really appreciate your kind words, thank you so much ☺️
Another fab video.
My late uncle, Harry (Turk) Moy was a member of the Lynn Boxing Club. He boxed for the 8th Army in World War Two (as well as fighting the Nazis in North Africa) and was a gold medal winner at the British Empire Games.
My late father and his family lived nearby in Farndon Row, off New Church Road, and used the public baths in Wells Way. As a kid in the 1960’s I vaguely remember what was left of the canal. My 90 year old mum can still recall a child drowning there!
Interestingly, the Richardson Crime gang had a club in Addington Square. Nice boys!
A wonderful comment Robin, thank you so much for sharing :-) Your uncle Harry sounds like he was one tough bloke! Cheers ;-)
Thnaks Rob, one of your best IMHO (although the weather played its part no doubt).
Thank you so much Martin! Stay well 😊
Absolutely fascinating and that from a man of Kent.
Much appreciated, thank you 😉
Great video, London is like Manilla in that they both filled in their canals in the 60s onwards, sadly Manilla now has massive problems with flooding while London has Thames Water..
Thank you so much. I had no idea they did that in Manila, interesting.
Hah! Thames Water - manage to have hosepipe bans, flooding and torrential rain all at the same time!
@@sheridanwilde Yep! ;-)
Your videos and knowledge is out of this world. Everyone unique and different in there own right. I love the canals history and didn’t realise how many have gone around London. Outstanding work and thank you for all your hard work ❤
That’s means so much to me Gill, thank you.
It’s kind words like yours which keep me going! Stay well, thanks again and have a lovely weekend.
Great video, my friend. Thoroughly enjoyed the material and info. 😊
I truly appreciate that; thank you so much for the kind words 😊 Stay well
@21:34 The library/ wash house reminds me of the Ford Hall in Bethnal Green - it has a similar red brick appearance, both featuring a semicircular window and horizontal stone band details, as well as a shared history of baths and boxing.
Yes; good spot.
Seems like almost every video, you mention some little off-the-beaten-path (at least to us foreigners) museum, such as todays Canal museum.
Have you ever considered creating a guide book of these hidden gems? I'm sure others have, but if you wrote one, I would definitely buy it..(Heck I'd probably buy just about any book created by you. I think your narrations would come across just as well on the printed page as they do in your videos.)
Thanks as always! LIKED! 👍
Robert is my son and your comment is amazing and inspirational. Rob is a published Author. His two books are" Train your Brain like a cabbie" and the other is "Waterloo station" a history of Londons busiest terminus.
Bless you! And thank you so much :-) Yes, I do have two books published (if you search 'Robert Lordan' you'll be able to find them) but to be honest this channel now has a wider reach!
Never say never though; I may do another one someday ;-) Thanks again and stay well.
A digital, multimedia book that could be downloaded to a device could be amazing. Maybe make available as a Patreon perk?
I've been trawling through all your videos in my spare time, and have been out and about to see some of the places referenced. I am enthralled by the seeming endless history hiding in plain sight in this most wonderful of cities. Thank you for all that you do
It’s an absolute pleasure Thomas; thank you so much for your kind words and support, it means a great deal to me. Stay well and thanks again 😉
Great exploration, fun to follow on Google Maps as I watched. Many thanks.
Ah, thank you so much Helene! Glad you enjoyed it :-)
Hi Rob! As always a wonderful watch, Thank You Very much!!
Thank you! 😄
Putting a clip of that scary video at 12:34 gave me an instant flashback, great editing.
Thanks 😉 Hope it didn’t creep you out too much!
New subscriber here 👋🏻
Please keep uploading more videos as I’ve binged watched every single one ❤
I’d love more of your historical crime videos and please could you cover about the old Romani/Romany gypsy families who helped build London x
Thank you, lovely comment 😉 A very interesting idea, I’ll make a note. Thanks again and stay well.
Thank you for this fascinating film. I was originally from West London but my partner is from Walworth. I know the area quite well now and I love learning about it💖
Such a lovely comment thank you :-) Glad you enjoyed it.
@ 8.13/14 tower blocks Woolwich i lived right next to & did paper round in them lol. great film i never knew of this canal thanks
It’s an absolute pleasure Beatleboy; thanks for watching!
Hello Rob, always an informative watch so thanks. As to your question about usage if canals and towpaths were still accessible… I would suggest yes they would make perfect walks/ cycle trails. The popularity of the Thames path is testament to folks joy of walking near water so Canals are the perfect city antidote’s. May not be everyone’s choice but I would be a happy bunny even at my age. Keep safe and well. C.
Lovely comment Clive, and yes I think you are quite right. Cheers and stay well.
Fascinating...and something I never knew. One comment....the Whiting Works would have had nothing to do with fish. Whiting was a product made from lime and used in many industries as a white colourant. Quite how they kept the colours of the Whiting Works and the Tar works separate .... who knows?!! I regularly drove along Albany Rd looking across the park where the chimney of an old vinegar works could be seen. So much old industry has been lost from records.
Great comment Phillip, thank you…. And yes, a few people have pointed out the whiting works error; I’m
Kicking myself now 😂 Cheers and stay well
Lovely video, Rob. Thanks for your content.
Thank you so much for watching! I couldn’t make these videos without the lovely support I receive from wonderful people such as yourself 😊
Thanks Rob, for yet more fascinating stuff!
There is another form of "Whiting" than fish: Calcium Carbonate, also known as Whiting is used in the printing industry as well as for marking those white lines on sports fields..! Likely to be shipped in bulk, and processed in "Works" where it was landed.
"Blacking" on the other hand, is made from refined carbon. 😉
Cheers Bryan ;-) Yes I realise that about the Whiting now, a few people have mentioned it! Stay well mate and thanks again.
Great history !
Thank you!
Another excellent video as always. 😊
Thank you so much Paul 😊
Thanks Rob, another great video.
It's an absolute pleasure, thanks for watching :-)
Hi Rob, I can't see this as a huge loss to the canal system since to gain access to it, narrowboats would need to traverse the tidal Thames from Limehouse, and once in Greenland dock, the canal is a relatively short stub, ending at Camberwell.
Yes, good point.... ;-)
Rob, once again you delivered a superb glimpse into history. My understanding is that London continues to offer an extensive canal system that connects with most, if not all, of the canals that run throughout Britain. I don't know if you've done a current canal tour before. If not, possible you could add this to your to-do list. Again, thanks for the insight.
Thanks so much Paul! I’ll certainly be doing some more canal videos so please stay tuned 😉 Thanks again sir
@@Robslondonanother brilliant video! I think you could write a book.
I had to sleep on it. What an amazing amount of history associated with the grand canal, beautiful in its hay days and perfect for travelling folks and hawkers that became the costermongers. Awesome art works as well beautiful to go to bed on thank you ❤
Bless you Tracy, thank you so much :-) Hope you're keeping well.
I wonder if the Peckham Branch had any connection to that famous mineral water product of the area, Peckham Spring?
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Bob, you do realise it's not the genuine spring water if it don't glow in the dark, Cheers DougT
Another amazing video! Thanks Rob! I hope you might consider doing a video on London's best Ghost Signs in the future. There are so many that are so intriguing. Love your work and always look forward to an upload. Cheers!
Thank you so much Stephanie, and that’s a lovely idea; I’ll make a note 😉
Very entertaining video. Had to keep pausing to locate places on google Maps, and also trying to find my house on the aerial maps!
Ha ha! Thanks Kaedaku, nice comment ;-) Stay well.
Lovely video, Rob!
Really bizarre, I just walked past Greenland dock, the Moby Dick pub, and Canada Water on the way home about an hour ago. 😂
Always did wander about the filled in canals at Canada Water, now I can fully visualise their original path.
Great stuff!!
Ha ha! Nice comment- and great coincidence! 😄 Cheers and stay well 😉
I've ticked off another gem on my journey through your superb historical and informative videos! Great. More after tea!
Rob
I've been filming another water based one today ;-) Will be out next week...
Thank you very much. One of the very few Chew Yoob offerings that is properly shot and edited. Well done, and thank you -again.
Really appreciate that ianoliver, thank you so much. Stay well.
It makes me wonder how many different things must be buried below the roads and pathways along the canal's course...
It also makes me wonder like omg that's a ton of soil to fill all of that up...
Yep 😉
Very interesting thanks for putting it together... much appreciated
Thanks for watching Hugh; stay well.
Great video as always Rob. It brought some great childhood memories, I was brought up around the Elephant & Castle, we use to fish & swim in Surrey Docks. I went to school in Peckham in the 70’s we use to bunk off school & play on what was left of the Surrey Canal. Oh happy days!
What a great comment; fantastic memories to have! 😄 Cheers and stay well.
@@Robslondon Thanks Rob! You too!
@@NewingtonBoy 😉
Always interesting, always excellently presented with a well spoken friendly narrative. I'm not familiar with South London, this lost canal was something I'd never heard of, yet there are still many little hidden gems along the way. Let's hope the magnificent mural on that 60's building gets preserved and thank you to the enlightened souls who saved that beautiful butterfly for us to enjoy.
A lovely comment Duncan, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts.
Thanks so much for this Rob. I moved to the area close to the Deptford end of this former canal about a year ago, and had no idea there used to be one! The whole area around here is so littered with evidence of the former docks, wharfs and associated industries - broken apart by mid-20th C development - that it can be tricky to connect them all up. Looking forward to walking the route of the Grand Surrey Canal on one of these summer days.
It’s a pleasure Christopher! Hope you enjoy exploring it 😉
These lost canals have been dug out showing off Thier beauty , greenery and many things.how much trade being done by some of canals to overseas it goes without saying,you explored which never before had been done
Thank you!
Very interesting indeed! Thank you.
Much appreciated, thanks gerardharrison!
A really great little video mate, I appreciate the effort you’ve gone to to find old maps and over lay them and the additional research you must put in…
Really appreciate that, thank you. I love the research, can’t get enough of old maps! 😉 Thanks again and stay well.
Fascinating video Rob and professionally put together, as are all your videos. Great bit of research. One small correction - a whiting works was nothing to do with fish. Whiting was a substance chemically produced from grinding chalk and other minerals and was used in paint and probably other industries.
Many thanks Rob. Yes, people have mentioned the Whiting... I had no idea, just assumed fish...canal... ;-) Cheers and stay well.
You deserve a gold medal.
What a great production.
Regards from Barnes
Thank you so much 😊 Really appreciate your kind words… I’ll have to do a video on Barnes at some point; beautiful part of London. Thanks again and stay well.
@@Robslondon Hi Rob. Something that you may have fun researching in Barnes is a small area named Small Profit Dock, along Lonsdale Road. I can't find diddly squat anywhere about it.
Thanks for your smashing films.
Cheers 🍻 from Barnes
@@francisnewmarch6837 Ah, interesting thank you- I’ll make a note! 😉