Why is Vine Street on the Monopoly Board?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 พ.ค. 2024
  • Vine Street, W1 is easily the most obscure property on the London version of the Monopoly board.
    Compared to other properties such as King's Cross Station, Marylebone Station, Piccadilly, the Old Kent Road, Regent Street and so on, it's hardly a household name and, in reality, Vine Street appears to be nothing more than a little dead end, used as a service area for a hotel and other businesses.
    There's a lot more to Vine Street than meets the eye though... and in this video we'll be looking at its intriguing history- including, of course, the reason why it ended up on the Monopoly board!
    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro
    02:19 The London Version of Monopoly
    04:28 The History of Vine Street
    06:51 A Bizarre Death...
    10:09 Why Vine Street?
    11:22 Vine Street Police Station
    18:27 Outro
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ความคิดเห็น • 572

  • @Robslondon
    @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Thanks so much for watching! If you had the chance to design the London Monopoly board from scratch, what properties would you include? Please be sure to let me know in the comments....

    • @brianparker663
      @brianparker663 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      For me, it would have to include Abbey Road, Lord's and The Oval. 😃🏏🚶🚶‍♂🚶🚶‍♂

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@brianparker663 And they would be excellent choices Brian!

    • @arejayseeottawa
      @arejayseeottawa ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Canary Wharf!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@arejayseeottawa Good one Robert ;-)

    • @robertlordan3084
      @robertlordan3084 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Robslondon Cheers Robert!

  • @Charstring
    @Charstring ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Top video! An Americus Oglethorpe shows up the London Metropolitan Archives in a document from 1751 submitted to the magistrates at the Middlesex sessions. He he had been indentured as an apprentice to a mariner, William Tiffin for 7 years starting 14 June 1746 but Mr Tiffin died leaving Americus in the lurch. He was asking to be discharged from the apprenticeship because Mr Tiffin’s sister was trying to force him to do unpaid work for her.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +41

      What a fantastic find. Thank you so much! Brings a lot of clarity to the story. Many thanks again and stay well 😊

    • @Alan_Duval
      @Alan_Duval หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Just to add to this, both Americus and Oglethorpe are towns in Georgia, a mere 20 miles apart.
      Maybe the individual in question was born in Andersonville (approximately halfway between Americus and Oglethorpe), but decided that wasn't great as a personal name.

    • @christopheralthouse6378
      @christopheralthouse6378 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Alan_DuvalIf said individual was around anytime close to the American Civil War, I could certainly see the desire to distance oneself from Andersonville as it was home to one of the most notorious Confederate prison camps of the war…😳😬

    • @Alan_Duval
      @Alan_Duval หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@christopheralthouse6378 Super interesting. Thanks!

    • @christopheralthouse6378
      @christopheralthouse6378 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Alan_Duval Definitely! Andersonville Prison Camp has a rather unfortunate connection to my family as one of my ancestors (on my maternal grandmother’s side) died as a Union POW in that camp. Grandma spent quite a few years working to get the name on his gravestone corrected.
      William P. Vandever, if one ever gets curious enough to see…

  • @davidjones332
    @davidjones332 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    "I'm taking my secretary to London to research locations for a board game" must be the most original excuse for a dirty weekend ever!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      😂

    • @andrewmurray5542
      @andrewmurray5542 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Brilliant comment 😂😂😂

    • @paulmcgee1867
      @paulmcgee1867 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Best idea ever 😂

    • @Chafflives
      @Chafflives หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😉😉,nudge, nudge.

  • @antonysebastianclegg8498
    @antonysebastianclegg8498 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    A few years ago, a group of us tried to complete the Monopoly Board pub crawl for a stag do. Our original plan to only drink a half at each stop soon deteriorated into pints and then shots for completing sides of the board. Needless to say, we didn’t quite finish it and had to visit four or five of the posher addresses the following weekend (a tip if plan to try it: don’t leave the more upmarket places till the end because you won’t find many pubs willing to allow a large group of already drunk men to enter - especially after midnight). Anyway, the one address we really struggled to find was Vine Street and we did wonder at the time why it was on the board. Now our questions are answered. Thanks for the video!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Ha ha! Great comment Antony, thank you... and you're braver than me! ;-)

    • @hughjaars2285
      @hughjaars2285 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      We went for wine from a wine box for Vine Street 😅on our monopoly board pub crawl. Need to start on the Brown ones as some of the pubs there open earlier. And yes, we did include railway stations!

  • @jeremysanderson9673
    @jeremysanderson9673 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Fascinating and well researched. I was a Police Office in the 1980s to 1990s, and Vine Street was the last station I served in. It was still one of the busiest nicks in London then, mainly covering the Regent Street, Piccadilly and Soho area. Pub kicking-out time at the weekends was the busiest time, running fights with loud drunks right through to the early hours. I still have chronic back pain as a memento!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ha ha! Cheers Jeremy ;-) Stay well.

    • @Colganology
      @Colganology หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We might have passed each other like shift workers in the night! I was there from 1985 to 1989 :)

  • @CorvoFG
    @CorvoFG ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Hi Rob. Regarding the train robbers. They did use Monopoly money. The mistake they made was not clearing it up and it had their fingerprints all over it. In some cases, this helped with their convictions. I have always wondered why a relatively insignificant street appears on the board tho! Cheers.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Ah! I would’ve used real cash personally if there were stacks of it lying around! 😂

  • @johndaarteest
    @johndaarteest ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Shane McGowan sings about Vine Street police station in the song 'The Ol' Main Drag' "between the metal doors at Vine Street I was beaten and mauled, and they ruined my good looks for the old main drag"

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ha ha! Yes indeed! I toyed with the idea of mentioning it, but thought it would be too controversial for this family channel! 😉

  • @andicheese1763
    @andicheese1763 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Amazing to think such a tiny street has so much history. Thanks for the research and sharing. 🙏🏻🙏🏻

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's an absolute pleasure Andi; thanks so much for watching.

    • @likklej8
      @likklej8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There used to be an imports record store in the mid 60s The underpass under the station is interesting the Ship and Shovel is a good pub for tourists

  • @brianartillery
    @brianartillery ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The only thing I know about Vine Street is that there was a Police Station there. It was also regarded, by some people, to be haunted by the ghost of a policeman who hanged himself in the cells. The atmosphere in some parts of the place was said to be unpleasantly oppressive, and gloomy. (even after it re-opened in the 1970's). I was told this by my late mother, who was a Metropolitan Police 'Special', in the mid 1950's. She never believed in ghosts or the supernatural, but the fact the story was told to her by stolid, unimaginative Policemen of the 'old school', who just stated it as fact, and were not trying to scare a 20 year old girl. The station was closed by the time mum was in the met, but she said she went to lots of places that just felt 'wrong', for no apparent reason, whilst on the beat and, being a tremendously rational person, it annoyed her that she could never find out why.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ha ha! Yes... from what I've heard, the ghost is of a former bent copper- he took a lot of bribes in the early 20th century and apparently made a fortune. When he got found out, he promptly took his own life...

  • @johnbacon1854
    @johnbacon1854 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Rob, you have done it again. What an amazing walk through history, of a small Street in London. Incredible. You really brought Vine Street to Life. The history of how Monopoly was created was great in itself, but then to go through the eras, the changes and the stories you found just gave me a whole new history lesson on this little place.
    So sad about the little girl and the cheese block. You have just brought her memory back, and although she was only 4 when she passed, her memory continues to live on in History now.
    I loved the tie in to the third Bond Book, Moonraker. I am a huge Ian Fleming Fan, and the Bond series as a whole.
    It may just be a service road in modern standards today, but it trully deserves its place on the Board after seeing all this.
    I am not sure how many other Streets you have covered with the Monopoly tie in, but for sure this could be an awesome series of videos if you continue doing more.
    Wishing you and your family all the best as always.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you so much John; a lovely, lovely comment and just the sort of incredibly kind words which keep me going. Thank you again my friend and stay well.

  • @robertwells252
    @robertwells252 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Rob great research brings back memories. I served as a Det Sgt at Vine Street for 3 years in the 70s what a tremendous area the best posting I had in the 30 year service and although busy was so well organised you didn’t really notice it was the busiest police station in Europe well done great video 19:45

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wonderful comment Robert, thank you so much. I bet you have quite a few stories to tell?! Thanks again for the kind words and stay well.

  • @stevethornhill3304
    @stevethornhill3304 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I used to be a police officer working for some time at the metropolitan police station in Vine Street,it closed in 1997

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You must have some interesting stories to tell Steve

    • @johntailing5283
      @johntailing5283 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As seen regularly on ‘Police5’ 🤭

  • @davidfarrell3539
    @davidfarrell3539 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Another truly amazing video Rob, thank you so much. By strange coincidence I am reading 'Right Ho Jeeves' by P.G. Wodehouse, in which Bertie Wooster reminisces being 'hauled off to Vine Street Police Station' on Boat Race night and to avoid a drunk and disorderly fine 'assumed in a flash the identity of Eustace H. Plimsoll'. Doubt you could get away with that today, but if the circumstances arise I might just give it a try. Also, regarding Swallow Street: there is a Swallow Passage on the south side of Oxford Street. I wonder if they were both once connected?

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lovely comment David, thank you so much. I didn't know Vine Street police station as mentioned in that book! Swallow Passage I'm not sure about, will have to look into it... .thanks again and stay well.

  • @josh0g
    @josh0g หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a unique way to research history, and really come across a lot of interesting stories.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @veehoggard
    @veehoggard ปีที่แล้ว +11

    There's a fabulous book by Tim Moore called "Do Not Pass Go" which has the history of all the squares on the Monopoly Board.
    This however was another level Rob, great research. I wonder if you fancy doing a full series about Monopoly?

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thank you so much Victoria 😊 I’ve not heard of that book, will have to look it up… as for a series, I’d be up for it if people would be happy to watch!

    • @surreygoldprospector576
      @surreygoldprospector576 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tim Moore was in my class at school! And yes, that book is very funny - recommended.

  • @PaulB-17
    @PaulB-17 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rob I am sure you are to young to remember a radio show called listen with Mother. As children when it came on the radio we would be settled down with a mug of milk and some cake or biscuits to listen to the story, Well now 50 years later on the opposite side of the world I find my self doing the same thing when I see you have uploaded. Make a nice cup of tea piece of fruit cake and settle into the armchair to enjoy your story. such a relaxing pleasure, coming from close to Harrow your accent takes me back and adds to the London vibe.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is such a lovely comment Paul, thank you :-) Hope you're keeping well and thanks again.

  • @kingsleysuessenbach7328
    @kingsleysuessenbach7328 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love your presentation style Rob. The unhurried, conversational nature of your voiceover has the charming qualities of being both engaging and relaxing.
    Very enjoyable.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      That means so much to me Kingsley, thank you my friend. Cheers and stay well.

  • @jovanweismiller7114
    @jovanweismiller7114 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've never been to London & odds are I never shall, but I love your channel! My Grandfather, a veteran of the Royal Field Artillery in the Great War, used to tell me where all the good pubs were. Of course, most of them had been bombed out during the Blitz. My Mum lived through the Blitz. I love learning the history of London.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Such a wonderful comment Jovan, thank you. Your mother and grandfather sound like the sort of people I would loved to have listened to.
      I hope you do make it here one day… stay well my friend.

  • @1258-Eckhart
    @1258-Eckhart ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Brilliantly researched as always Rob, and finding the legal connection between the orange sites was just genius. Your content is so good that I'm sure you could make a book out of it (I know that you're already an author).

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much :-) I'd love to write more books, but it would appear online is the way to go now.... you never know though ;-)

    • @ChrisSmith-ls7mb
      @ChrisSmith-ls7mb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello Rob
      An excellent video. Love the Monopoly facts. The company I work for just celebrated it's 100th anniversary and we sold a special Monopoly game based on our company. We now have three different board sets, the American original an London one and our company one. Loved the Only Fools and Horses clip. Thanks Take Care Chris and Sandra of Canada.

  • @simonfowler1290
    @simonfowler1290 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brilliant Rob, well done on all the research! I knew the police station well, I joined the Met in 1983. So many police stations closing & being demolished, Chelsea police station in Lucan Place, SW3 being the latest to go under the swinging bal...

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Many thanks Simon. Yes, even West End Central is now closed as you’ll know.
      Would loved to have seen inside Vine Street station (as a non-criminal of course!) Thanks again and stay well

  • @thetragicyouth
    @thetragicyouth ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Rob, your videos never fail to inform and enchant - the perfect start to a Sunday evening! Wasn't there also a fairly notable police station at Gerald Road, near Eaton Square (I believe it featured in many 'well to do' scandals from the 1930s onwards)? On a side note, several decades ago I stayed overnight at the Cadogan Hotel in the very room where Wilde was arrested - no ghosts, alas.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That means a lot to me, thank you so much. Don’t know about the Gerald Road station, will have to look into it! And that’s quite something; staying in the great Oscar Wilde’s room! Very jealous! 😉 Stay well and thanks again

  • @paulmerryman
    @paulmerryman ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I can't begin to believe how much research goes into these video's. Amazing work as always Rob, very informative.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much Paul, really appreciate your kind words. Stay well mate.

  • @snowymatrix
    @snowymatrix ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was born in London quite a long time ago. I always learn something new every time I watch one of your videos. This one was outstanding! Thanks man👍🍺🍺

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice comment; thanks and thank you for watching 😉

  • @nicolek4076
    @nicolek4076 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Always worth the wait ... another perfectly-formed little gem from Rob. I've not lived in London for many years, but his rambles through the streets and history always create a pang if nostalgia. Thank you, Rob.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a pleasure as always Nicole, thank you so much for the kind words :-)

  • @martharunstheworld
    @martharunstheworld ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What a great story! Thanks Rob! Monopoly was always my favorite game as a kid, but I won't lie, I've turned that darn board over a time or two.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much Martha :-) Stay well.

  • @BonBonB
    @BonBonB หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Superbly written and edited video. Nice work!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you BonBon!

  • @sharonleong7120
    @sharonleong7120 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great content. I like it too. Thanks Robert.👍👍👍💜💜💜

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Sharon 😊

  • @clivefelgate9802
    @clivefelgate9802 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As always a great vid Rob. As a child played this with my Gran, mum and dad and brothers and sister. Have played with my kids and now with my grand kids! Somethings never go out of fashion.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lovely comment Clive, thank you. Yes, I think Monopoly will always be here. Stay well 😉

  • @kokobwild2413
    @kokobwild2413 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice of him to take his secretary down from Leeds for that weekend in London.

  • @badgerello
    @badgerello ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brilliant - past go and claim a new sub. We in Australia grew up with the UK version years before we got our own state specific Monopoly boards. Love that game and love this story.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Such a lovely comment Brad, thank you so much for the kind words mate. Really good to have you here! Cheers and stay well 🇦🇺

  • @NDKY67
    @NDKY67 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My little sister would always cheat at Monopoly, stealing money from the bank. I lost her last year, memories of her stealing Monopoly money make me smile now, she was a very special person, even though she was a cheat at board games.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A truly beautiful comment Nicholas; your words moved me very much.
      Thank you so much for taking the time to share memories of your sister here; I am so sorry to hear of your loss.
      Take care my friend, and thank you again.

  • @BdManus
    @BdManus ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi from Texas. Excellent video. I am simply amazed how you find all of the research to tell the stories that you do.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Truly appreciate that Bd Manus, thank you my friend. Great to have someone from Texas here! Thanks again and stay well.

  • @BobMuir100
    @BobMuir100 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wonderful!! I am a Londoner now living Manchester far too far away from the Emirates (or Highbury) but needs must. However it’s great to get such a London ‘fix’ such as this piece. I knew very little about this story so was doubly pleased.
    Thanks
    Bob
    England

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much Bob; appreciate the kind words! Cheers ;-)

  • @RemnantCult
    @RemnantCult หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As an American, I have always been interested in hearing the reasoning behind the street names in the UK version of monopoly. Brilliant video. I'm fascinated by UK and English history.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! Lovely comment 😉

  • @philipdove6987
    @philipdove6987 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Vine street and the orange is the best investment in monopoly. Cheap to buy and develop, but with crippling rents if you have 4 houses or hotels. If you land on go then the statistical chance of throwing a combination of throws that puts you on an orange property is around 50%. The orange set are a real cash cow

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good tip ;-)

  • @jstefens
    @jstefens 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just want to say I love your channel.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That means a lot to me, thank you! ☺️

  • @filipweemaes1926
    @filipweemaes1926 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Always fascinating storytelling 👍

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Really appreciate that Filip; thank you so much my friend. Stay well.

  • @nicholaswalker2494
    @nicholaswalker2494 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Rob super video,happy to know that Victor and Marjorie came from My home county “God’s own”I happened to find a old German Monopoly set in the recycling centre and the Vine Street equivalent is called Berliner Straße and costs 4000 Marks.All the property names are standardised like the station’s are named main,north and south etc.The street names also like Park,Museum,station,new and direction streets like Munich and Berliner Straße.Not any kind of imagination as our beloved game.Cheers mate and thanks once again 👍👍

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brilliant comment Nicholas, thank you. Leeds is a great city 😉

  • @Jsmith2024
    @Jsmith2024 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you. Your depth of knowledge and presentation are exceptional. I have been to London a few times but am not familiar with Vine St.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate that Jeff; many thanks sir.

  • @lindahart6049
    @lindahart6049 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Rob, your research is amazing! Each video is so interesting, and you tie up all the loose ends so effortlessly. I look forward to each one.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Linda! Really kind of you to say :-) Stay well.

  • @ruthdorward6105
    @ruthdorward6105 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very interesting! Looking forward to exploring London again. Hi from Australia 🇦🇺

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Ruth! Hope you make it back here soon.

  • @raymonde4272
    @raymonde4272 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fascinating stuff once again Rob. It's always amazing how much history even the most unassuming of streets has.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Raymonda :-) Yes; it never ceases to amaze me how much history is hidden away out there....

  • @PaulMcCaffreyfmac
    @PaulMcCaffreyfmac ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love your videos so much Rob, especially when they don't go too far east 🙂
    Not being a Monopoly man 'Vine Street Police Station' has always been the phrase or name that pops into my mind but I don't believe I have ever stepped in Vine Street itself. Though I've sold books to a dealer in (I think) Albemarle Street and have perused the stalls in front of St James' Church I think of myself as on the Regent Street side of things rather than the Picadilly, which apart from the Royal Academy has never interested me as much. When I was young it was Hamleys and in the late sixties the guitar shops in Shaftesbury Avenue and Charing Cross Road and then when working with a Thai gentleman with an intrepid streak in the '80s, eating at all manner of Chinese and Indian restaurants that he had uncovered in his travels.
    Thanks again Rob, for all your work. I enjoyed your Monopoly inspired graphics.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What a brilliant comment!
      Thank you as always Paul, really enjoy hearing your memories- it’s important to share them, for it’s how people in the future will gain a window into our lives.
      Thanks again my friend and stay well.

  • @dougknight1720
    @dougknight1720 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Loved it. Really interesting documentary as always. Nice to know a History of Monopoly and some of the Streets behind it.Thanks again Rob, keep up the good work

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many thanks Doug! Cheers ;-)

  • @garyphisher7375
    @garyphisher7375 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been fishing at the pond by Bridego Bridge, where the robbery happened. You always get a few people visiting, who know a great deal about the robbery. Always fascinating listening to them.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I noticed the fishing area when filming this Gary 😉

  • @richardbrayshaw570
    @richardbrayshaw570 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Cheers Rob. Really loving these videos that bring my adopted home city to life.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolute pleasure Richard, glad you like them! Thanks for watching and stay well.

  • @bryan3550
    @bryan3550 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fascinating stuff, as usual, Rob! Excellent research. 👍

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much Bryan! Hope you’re keeping well

  • @brianparker663
    @brianparker663 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another fascinating and well-researched video Rob. I'm told that professional Monopoly players (who knew there was such a thing!?) very much covet the orange set as opponents leaving jail are very likely to land there. 🤑

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheers Brian! I didn’t know that, very interesting- will have to bear it in mind next time I play 😉

  • @ladymissp1880
    @ladymissp1880 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great research, so detailed and informative! Just came up in my feed and now a subscriber! Lived in London from 1980-2002 and loved everything about it; never bored always something new to discover and I’m now going to continue exploring via your videos!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lovely comment LadyMissP, thank you! It's great to have you here 🙂

    • @thewrecker3140
      @thewrecker3140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What a smashing post

  • @SeventhSwell
    @SeventhSwell ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting video. Thanks!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Much appreciated; thanks for watching 😊

  • @annettescott5884
    @annettescott5884 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow Rob - that’s an impressive and complex piece of research! Thanks for another great video 😊

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a pleasure Annette, thank you so much for the kind words 🙂

  • @dabsan
    @dabsan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's always such a absolute pleasure to watch your videos, so interesting and very well researched. I am very much looking forward to watching your future videos.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Really appreciate your kind words Darren; they mean a lot to me. Stay well mate.

  • @richiesimons4403
    @richiesimons4403 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was a thoroughly interesting and enjoyable video.
    Thank you Rob. Brought back fond memories of my time living in London.
    I lived in Angel Islington for 18 months and loved it there.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's an absolute pleasure Richie; thanks for the kind words, and thanks for watching! Stay well.

  • @TheHarrip
    @TheHarrip ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic work yet again my friend. Thanks.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s an absolute pleasure my friend; thanks for watching and stay well.

  • @raystewart3648
    @raystewart3648 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    JUST Subscribed.
    Very good history lesson of Vine St, a street I have past many hundreds of times, but with very little knowledge or any at all about it.
    There is another story about Swallow Street or near by it, that its where a murder took place in 1896 of two young boys, but the case was not followed, as the boys where part of the Dove-Row Gang.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Ray! That's interesting about Swallow Street, I wasn't aware of that...

  • @Alan_Duval
    @Alan_Duval หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How cool! I've been to that Bermondsey Street watchhouse cafe :D
    I was watching this as a follow-up to my finding out that the choice of train stations on the Monopoly board was due to the fact that those stations served Leeds, unlike the other, sometimes larger and more important stations (e.g. Waterloo, London Bridge, Paddington).

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Alan! And that’s a very interesting fact 😉

  • @katrinabryce
    @katrinabryce ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used to work very close to there, and I didn't know it existed. I recognise most of the other nearby streets you showed in the video, but not Vine Street.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Katrina, hope you found it interesting 😊

  • @SLane249
    @SLane249 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another "I never knew that" video, great job ! Thanks for your work.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Much appreciated Stephen! Cheers 😉

  • @mickey4125
    @mickey4125 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic as always Rob me old mucker! That whole Vine Street- Little Vine Street switcheroo seems like much ado about nothing, a very strange affair!
    With love from Yorkshire x

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chew Mickey! And yes, very much in agreement 😉

  • @markcarson8
    @markcarson8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for all your hard work Rob, enjoyed that.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much Mark, really appreciate your support. Stay well.

  • @Slycockney
    @Slycockney ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant video Rob, really enjoyed it. Vine Street is a location I have walked past hundreds of times and not even noticed it is there, feel a bit guilty now.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much! And I’m sure you’re not alone; I was guilty of that until recently!

  • @M500VYN
    @M500VYN ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating. Thanks for your research and producing this article. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a pleasure Melvyn, thank you so much for watching.

  • @leifvejby8023
    @leifvejby8023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't know that I didn't know this, and certainly not that it was a very interesting tale! Thanks!!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks very much for watching, Leif Vejby :-) Stay well.

  • @Rachel-bo3qg
    @Rachel-bo3qg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yet another well researched video ! Great work.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much Rachel :-)

  • @TheCardiganR
    @TheCardiganR ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I knew Vine Street from despatching in London in the mid 80s. I also got to know Great Marlborough Street from an appearance in the magistrates Court for having a missing L plate on my scooter after getting pulled in Regent Street. This was before the days of Instant fines. The copper was determined to get me for something, I remember he went over everything on the scoter. Grrr!, still riles me today. 😉

  • @vickypedias
    @vickypedias ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What an excellent channel and video! Love you Rob!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      That means a lot to me, thank you Viktoria 😊

  • @martycrow
    @martycrow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great research and engaging presentation style. Thank you Rob!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Much appreciated, thanks for watching 😊

    • @martycrow
      @martycrow ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Robslondon Subscribed too! Looking forward to viewing more. All the best!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martycrow Lovely! Thank you 🙂

  • @butchknapman3939
    @butchknapman3939 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rob, greetings to you again from Thailand, oh Monopoly as kids my brother always had to be the Banker and sometimes games went on for days. As always yet again very interesting and thought provoking video. August 1993 I was actually working on a farm in Buckinghamshire a little more than a stones throw from Leatherslade farm , the concrete track in those was mud and there lies a story of its own. Looking out for the next video

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great comment Butch, thank you! Hope you're keeping well.

  • @williamevans9426
    @williamevans9426 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you Rob - yet another fascinating video. I'm very interested in the sites of now demolished buildings, especially in central London - trying to imagine the scene at each location in times past. Your impeccable research is therefore greatly appreciated!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to be of service, William :-) Thank you so much for the kind words.

  • @samsaunders6738
    @samsaunders6738 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is great Rob, I used to work at the hotel and have fond memories of coming into work through Vine street, always wondered why it was on the board and now I know 😊. Anyway, thanks for bringing back some great memories and enlightening me at the same time!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great comment Sam, thank you!

  • @calhungus
    @calhungus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant video Rob,what an interesting subject for a video.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Much appreciated Cal, thanks for watching 😊

  • @Mooocheropordis
    @Mooocheropordis ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was once incarcerated at Islington nick for the night in Tolpuddle st. Unfortunately I never had the pleasure of sampling the delights of Vine St. Great Video!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 Cheers Andrew!

    • @rachelhenderson2688
      @rachelhenderson2688 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did that make you a Tolpuddle Martyr, then?

    • @Mooocheropordis
      @Mooocheropordis หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rachelhenderson2688 Ha, no i was guilty

  • @hannahk1306
    @hannahk1306 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks, I've taken part in Monopoly Run Live (you play Monopoly by visiting the real life locations from the London Monopoly board) a few times now and always wondered why Vine Street seemed to be down a random back alley. Now, if my Guides ask me when we play again in a few weeks time, I can tell them that it used to be the location of an important police station.
    I think a modern version would probably centre around the attractions of London, e.g. one colour set for the museums, as well as places like the London Eye, Tower of London and London Dungeons being included. You could also have well-known buildings like the Shard, Gherkin and Walkie-talkie on there.
    In terms of stations, Waterloo, Paddington, Liverpool Street and one of Euston/St Pancras/King's Cross would be good options for the four corners of London.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Brilliant comment Hannah, I enjoyed reading that. I didn't realise there was a Monopoly run! Cheers and stay well :-)

    • @hannahk1306
      @hannahk1306 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Robslondon Yeah, it happens on the first Saturday in March every year, but it's only open to people in Scouting and Guiding. So if you see loads of kids (and adults) in uniform running about London on 4th March you know why.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's due soon then!

  • @seansersmylie
    @seansersmylie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic little slice of history, thanks very much!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much Sean 😊

  • @tonycox5625
    @tonycox5625 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Rob, still got our old Monopoly game dating back to the early 60s, who knew that Vine Street had so much history?! 👍😊

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Tony ;-) Yes, it's an interesting little place for sure.

  • @Colganology
    @Colganology ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used to work at Vine Street Police Station! Long gone now, as is Bow Street.

  • @LanceRylance
    @LanceRylance 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great episode i loved it it was very interesting

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you Lance!

  • @mikereilly5005
    @mikereilly5005 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Rob
    Thoroughly enjoyed that one, I know all of the areas you mentioned, but once again, you have shown me the history, as with all your videos, I always make a point of driving past the locations,
    Thank you
    All the best
    Mike

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much Mike, hope you’re keeping well.

  • @Byzmax
    @Byzmax ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video presented so well.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much Iain. Cheers and stay well.

  • @thewrecker3140
    @thewrecker3140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Outstanding work Rob.

  • @callycat6660
    @callycat6660 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thankyou Rob this is so interesting ..I lived in London for many happy years and it's wonderful finding out the History from the past 😊

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Such a lovely comment Cally cat, thank you :-)

  • @aegisofhonor
    @aegisofhonor ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Park Place on traditional American Monopoly boards is similarly short and discrete only being one single block that's rarely traveled and even a lot of people born and raised in Atlantic City could not tell you where Park Place is or was. It's possibly even smaller then Vine Street in London today.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great comment, thank you- I’m intrigued now 😉

  • @nilo70
    @nilo70 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank You Rob , for making this interesting episode today !
    Cheers from California 😊

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a pleasure Olin! Hope life in California is treating you well ;-) Cheers and stay well.

  • @jonathanchalk2507
    @jonathanchalk2507 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great research Rob of my London.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Jonathan :-)

  • @seymourclearly
    @seymourclearly หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent, really interesting

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Seymour

  • @mikego18753
    @mikego18753 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A very enjoyable vid Rob.
    Thanks.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks very much Mike

  • @connie_d
    @connie_d ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the title was intriguing but this vid is even more fascinating than i expected. really good work.
    just wish there was the same vast amount of information presented this well about all our other cities as there is about london.
    if anyone has any suggestions pls let me know.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your comment has made my day; thank you so much! Really appreciate your kind words.
      Cheers and stay well 🙂

  • @mjwemdee
    @mjwemdee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great video - and evidently took a lot of effort to put together! I live in the Netherlands now, but still homesick for London every now and then. Every street has a story to tell.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Such a beautiful comment, thank you so much mjwemdee. Stay well my friend.

  • @JTonson
    @JTonson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely fascinating - well done

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Jacob 🙂

  • @kerryannestevenson6099
    @kerryannestevenson6099 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was fascinating as usual Rob.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much Kerry 😊

  • @andrewniles9479
    @andrewniles9479 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The railway stations on the Monopoly board are a bit weird. You might expect Paddington, Waterloo, Victoria etc. instead of Marylebone, Fenchurch St. & Liverpool Street but the London & North Eastern paid Waddington's to feature their stations.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Andrew, they are an odd choice for sure!

    • @borderlands6606
      @borderlands6606 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That makes sense. From 1923 to 1948 the London and North Eastern Railway were one of the "Big Four" companies, amalgamated from numerous smaller railways. When Waddington took on British marketing of the game in the 1930s, Leeds was on the LNER. I'd always wondered why those stations were chosen over more obvious contenders.

  • @paulwally9007
    @paulwally9007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another brilliant video! I've only recently discovered Wilde's The Picture of Dorian Gray, which has become one of my favourite works of literature. I live close to Worthing, a place Wilde travelled to for romantic getaways. I also grew up on a street with a house owned by the composer George Posford. Noel Coward, who was rumoured to be Posford's lover, regularly visited him there.

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much Paul- and a really interesting comment.

  • @priscillamontoya
    @priscillamontoya ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your channel so much. Thank you. ❤

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much Priscilla :-) I couldn't do it without the lovely support of wonderful people such as yourself. Stay well and thanks again.

  • @tamarmolerick3814
    @tamarmolerick3814 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vine Street police station gets a mention in the Pogues song "Old main drag".

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep! I did want to mention it... but also have to keep it clean ;-)

  • @gmdhargreaves
    @gmdhargreaves ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating video- great free education- I love it I really love it❤

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      That you so much ☺️ Your kind words mean a great deal to me, thank you for watching and stay well.

  • @whyyoulidl
    @whyyoulidl ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rob, just have to echo the positive comments below. Many thanks for bringing this hidden gem to our attention. Truly grateful!

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Much. appreciated; thank you 🙂

  • @cjg1970
    @cjg1970 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very informative. I always thought Vine St. was a bit obscure but never gave it a second thought.

  • @callycat6660
    @callycat6660 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fabulous video so interesting ..It's very nostalgic for me as I used to live in London for a good few years and will be fascinating for me to see your other video's ..Subscribed and Thankyou 😊

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's wonderful to have you here Cally cat! Thank you so much for the kind words :-) Stay well.

    • @callycat6660
      @callycat6660 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Robslondon Thankyou 💙

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@callycat6660 🙂

  • @alanchriston6806
    @alanchriston6806 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rob,
    Superb video. Once again
    😊🏴‍☠️

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Much appreciated Alan, thank you. Hope you're keeping well.

    • @alanchriston6806
      @alanchriston6806 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Robslondon always much better , especially on a Monday morning, after watching and listening to one of your fabulous London videos.
      The Best city in the World
      Always a Treat
      😊🏴‍☠️

    • @Robslondon
      @Robslondon  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alanchriston6806 Thanks!

  • @GetOffMyyLawn
    @GetOffMyyLawn ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "One evening as I was lying down by Leicester Square
    I was picked up by the coppers and kicked in the balls
    Between the metal doors at Vine Street I was beaten and mauled
    And they ruined my good looks for the old main drag" The Old Main Drag, by the Pogues