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- Unboxing of the DROPROS WBL290F Lathe made by Weiss exclusively for DROPROS
5year warrant on the Lathe
6 year warrant on the DRO
DRO accuracy - 5 micron on the Z(carriage), 1 micron on the X(cross slide). Thats 0.0002 and 0.00005 respectively!
*Excellent lathe **MyBest.Tools** I started turning pens, and this is a very smooth running lathe. I am glad that I went with a variable speed lathe. It is made of top quality materials and will probably out last me. I highly recommend.*
Bought this lathe from Dro Pro guys. Very happy with it. 2yrs in zero problems. I use it almost everyday. The only thing I would ask for is a faster feed for the crossslide. Great lathe for the price.
Just ordered the 10x 30 version of this lathe. Very happy i found your video
How have you liked it so far? I’m looking at ordering this model as well. It would be my first lathe so I’m a little intimidated but it’s features seem great for the price.
Looks like Weiss and Precision Mathews gets their lathes from same place. They pretty much identical. I have the PM 1130v and happy...and looks identical except for 2hp motor. 2hp would be nice.
Hello, I just purchased one and I am curious. The longitudinal axis is difficult to turn by hand. It works in auto with no issues. They told me to try cleaning the rack and pinion. I have and unfortunately still have two use two hands on the hand wheel. I should state my table lock is not engaged. Have you had to do any work to your carriage and/or smooth frome day one?
I think you worry too much about oils fella. ISO32 for the headstock and any mineral oil for the rest works for me. Chinese lathes are pretty much accurate these days and the finish is generally better too! The amount of money you spend getting it out of China however is reflected in quality. Pay a cheap price, get a cheaper, nasty product, pay more and the product tends to be as good if not better than anything else in the world market.
You can really see quality put into this lathe.
I still can't get over the people that say that something is automatically crap because it comes from China. Where are you getting your lathes from? Don't you realize that quality from China depends entirely on the QC that the wholesaler/retailer requires from the manufacturer? That was true even when stuff was made in the US. Do you remember how bad American cars used to be? They are WAY better now. Where do the parts come from?
Dro Pros still has this lathe on their website (3-16-21) but it has in fact been discontinued by them (email from them today). In fact all their Weiss lathes are discontinued and sold out.
I bought a JYP290VF directly from the Chinese manufacturer and it came with a one year warranty but to get them to fix anything you have to send it back to China on you dime or you can buy the parts from someone like precision Matthew they are really the same machine with different tags on them that is what the Chinese guy said they make all of them at his factory just label them different he said if I want he will put my name on it for 100$ so it would be my brand lathe lol
Any chance you have their contact info?
These must be made in the same factory as Precision Matthews, they look, are painted and function more or less the same. I have the PM-1030V and it's smaller but seems to be the same.
Hello, I believe that that you are Ted? It's September 2021, your reply is about the PM1030 Lathe. I'm in the process to get one from Matthew's and was updated to PM1130. And you are probably correct
@@keithmonarch447 I am Ted H., I had my PM1030 lathe up and running since Jan 21, had some issues, one of my own making, but the other issues Matt at PM did take care of. It runs good, as well as expected and I actually used it today. I also have a PM 727 Milling Machine and it runs well also, both need cleaning and some issues when first put up to run but I would buy both again if I had to.
Nice video and nice lathe: the carriage of My BV20 lathe Is moving by now by Arduino stepper motor and M happy, But of in the future i will change It with your model lathe, i have to change gears ti change the screw pitchs or the feed velocity? Or You have only to move levers? Thank you for your answer! Alberto
Nice lathe bro. Good luck with it.
Thanks, now that winter is here I’ve been using it more. Still love it. The DRO makes it so easy to hold tolerance. Who knew. Lol
Outstanding!👍👍👍
Good looking lathe👍
I have looked at several "makes" of lathe on line and have the feeling they are basically the same thing in different colours and names.
Not quite the same, but similar. I think they all come from the same foundry. The differences are in the machining process. Tolerances and fit and finish
There all pretty much the same, they're are imported and finished here (U.S.) Overall it comes down to personal preference (color, size, functions, capabilities and most importantly BANG 4 THE BUCK).😏😏
Does this lathe require a gear change for threading or just a knob change?
I PURCHASE THE SAME TOY . HOW TO TAKE OUT ORIGINAL TOOL POST ?? .
I WANT TO REPLACE IT WITH QUICK CHANGE TOOL POST .
.I TRY TO UNSCREW IT BUT IT DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE .
DO I HAVE TO TAKE APART COMPOUD SLIDE ?
Congratulations.
Hello could you tell me the peak height? I plan to buy the same lathe and equip it with a Multifix turret, my tools are 12x12mm. Thanks in advance. Jean Marc
Thanks for the video, Could you elaborate about the chuck adaptor at 6:15min in more detail how it works and is designed?
Hi, can you tell me where to find such lathe as your?
Interested in your thread cutting technique, are you saying you can cut in both directions? This would be a big time saver, I thought you would be swapping between left and right hand thread...
Enjoyed your video. Got quick question. Im looking for a lathe/mill to do one thing - make cannon barrels out of 1018 steel rod and Bore/drill holes. Rod diameter to be used will be < 4 inch and Length < 27 inch. My Bores Holes will be 1/2 inch to 2 inch Max. drilled about 16 inches in. Do you think this will be a good lathe/mill machine for this type of work? I look forward to your response. Thanks in advance.
Cute little thing... I want one.
Actually, the 210 is a cute little thing. lol The 290 is a good size lathe. With the EL400 DRO it puts a smile on my face every time I use it. I never had the precision or the capacity with the old Craftsman 9x whatever. The size is similar but the 1.5" spindle hole and all the other bells and whistles makes this 10 steps up from what I had.
Have fun getting parts!
DRO Pros has a really good relationship with the manufacturer and can get replacement parts easily. That's the main reason I went with this company.
I bought the same lathe directly from Weiss and I lost some pins for the gears, just ordered them online like you do from Amazon or ebay etc
Hi what's cutting like at low speed does it still have plenty of grunt,? what depth of cut can you achieve on something say 4" round at 100 RPM ?
Very nice lathe, but why at that price point don't they include a threading gauge? Do you really want to wait all that time for the lead screw to return the carriage to the start point vs going back by hand and engaging on your thread number? Is there an option to add it later? Deal breaker for me, sorry.
If you are talking about the thread dial , it came with mine. Had mine for couple years now. Really been happy , zero problems , runs great.
Nice lathe!! Where did you buy it? or where did you order it?
I'm planning to buy a set China lathe. It is cost about £1000, working length in 800mm. Should I try it?
I own the previous generation of this lathe. They've added some better designed parts to the machine like that properly hinged head stock access door, cam lock spindle nose, octagon feed rod and spring loaded feed clutch instead of the shear pins mine has. Since you don't show that side of the carriage it's hard to tell, but yours didn't come with a threading dial? A 100% non optional requirement in my opinion. ALL half decently designed lathes will have one because it's much faster when threading to disengage the half nuts, run the carriage back to the starting point using the hand wheel and re-engage the lead screw at the correct point using a threading dial. Your perception of thread cutting in both directions by changing the lead screw direction will not work due to the required and necessary back lash between the lead screw, half nut, and the gearing driving it. Thread cutting is always done in one direction on any lathe because of that back lash issue. Yours looks to have a better and higher quality motor and drive circuitry than mine came with, mines ok but still a bit limited on it's bottom end torque at larger diameters. A decent 3 ph motor and VFD would be far better I think.
DROPros are handing you a complete line of BS about this machine and the way it's equipped as being unavailable from anyone else. Weiss and I'm quite sure most or all machine tool manufacturers have a list of options for any dealer placing an order to check off. When I bought mine from a tool dealer in Quebec there in stock lathes only had MT 2 tail stocks and MT 3 spindles on the rear mounted milling heads. If I was willing to order and wait 4 months for the next shipment Weiss would build and ship to that dealer any combination of options they offered at the time. Since I wanted the MT 3 tail stock and the milling heads spindle in R8 and not the then standard MT 3 at the time. I ordered mine that way and waited. I doubt just anyone could order a single lathe or mill directly from Weiss equipped the way you want from there options list. But any dealer who does sell enough of there equipment certainly should be able to if your willing to wait for it to be built and shipped.
Le filetage dans les 2 sens est très facile et très précis le tout c'est de savoir fileter !
Hi, friend what model was your previous version?
and would you recommend buying it? Thank you very much for your answer
Any update how its holding up?
Nice lathe
Wow this machine 690 pounds ?
Is it a single phase?
where I find this is machine? thank you!
Does it work good after one year?
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B4 I possibly loose you, maybe I might 😏 get a reply from you. I sent this message on September 2021. It sounds like you have been using machine tools for a while. Any issues since you purchased your Lathe? Let me know, okay...
Does your lathe have tapered spindle bearings installed and did you get exploded drawings with your purchase?
one taper roller bearing, one ball bearing. parts diagrams in the manual.
@@DirkWrightxyz how it tightened?
@@101picofarad These 290 lathes are usually fitted with a taper roller bearing on each end of the headstock spindle, the two tapered bearings are preloaded using threaded collars on the rear end of the spindle.
I'm Italian from Bari Puglia, where can I buy it?
just contact Weiss directly, like I did
Hello,
which size of quick change tool post have you installed?
thanks in advance
Matthias
You've asked the same question on a few videos about this lathe and so far no one seems to have bothered answering it. They probably won't be a 100% direct fit due to the tool posts center stud hole being an incorrect size compared to what the lathe comes with. But that's what lathes are for. You can just build your own adapter stud that fits the top slides requirements and the diameter the tool post needs. Thread pitches would be up to you to figure out. An AXA sized tool post would work, but sometimes you may need to reduce the maximum tool shank size the tool holders can take to allow the tool holder to drop low enough to get the tool point on your lathes C/L. Both Aloris and Dorian have good diagrams on there web sites for how to correctly size a tool post for the available height between the surface of the top slide and your lathes C/L. Measure what you have and cross reference the manufacturer's dimensions of the tool post sizes there building for what ever brand of tool post and holders your planning on buying..
I'm not sure what you mean. It is designed for 1/2" tools if thats what you mean. It think it will actually hold 5/8" tools max, but I have not tried
Should use the same one like in Precision Mathews (PM1030V & PM1022V).
Quick Change Tool Post AXA with a 9/16 max tool shank. 🙂
@@turningpoint6643 Thank you, I just did what you have adviced: AXA size Aloris tool post, made my adaptor on the lathe , and you were Right: sometimes I have to mill/grind the Tools a Little bit smaller, so they drop enough.
Thanks again and stay well
Matthias
@@redband8387 I'm happy that helped you out and thanks for letting me know it did. I remember when I started and how confusing everything was. Sometimes just figuring out where to find the information your needing is the hardest part. All the bigger manufacturers have loads of free online specifications on there web sites so whenever possible that's where I start.
Wow! Looks identical to the Precision Matthews 1030v Lathe. How do you compare...🤔
Not identical. Look closer. This is a much larger lathe, more options, about the same price as the 1030v. Here's their spec sheet: wdl5.streamhoster.com/hvp/DROPROS/WBL290F%20Specs.pdf
The Precision Mathews equivalent is: PM-1127VF-LB LATHE: www.precisionmatthews.com/shop/pm-1127vf-lb/
Rob said it best. I don't have any experience with PM, but this lathe was worth every penny. Dropros has a huge library of information on their machines, DRO's and installation. You can't beat their customer service at any price!
all variants on the basic chinese minis they are based on - just swap out a few parts and covers etc
Who fulfils the warrant on the machine somebody in China?
Dro Pros warranties all their machines. They have spare parts in stock
Does your lathe have tapered spindle bearings and did you get a good manual with exploded view drawings?
yes - tapered bearings installed.
You said in this video "That as long as you're below 400rpm you can engage the feed screw" What about if you're working with carbide tooling and need higher rpm? Coincidentally you can't use power feed with carbide no? And how much was the upgraded DRO from them over the standard Magnetic dro kit?
Thanks!
You can work up to 2000 rpm but you have to be under 400 to engage the feed gear. You still have the half nut for both the carriage and cross slide which can be engaged at any speed. I use power feed with carbide tooling all the time. I’ve never heard that. The DRO that comes mounted on the machine is nice but basic. I opted to buy without DRO and install DroPros EL400 because of its advanced features. They sell machines with or without the Weiss DRO. They offer a discount on a DRO when purchasing a machine. I don’t remember prices. I’m getting ready to purchase a VM32 mill and I’ll be going with the DroPros EL700 DRO. Call them, they’re very knowledgeable. Or go to the website.
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You gotta go full bald , it would look good
You just lost your warranty there... There in the car...
How much is it?
Go to their website dropros.com. All their machines and prices are listed there along with the phone number. Thanks for watching!
You seem very excited over what is basically a toy Chinese lathe, good on you and happy for you and enjoy what it can do for you, BUT !, I feel you will probably quickly outgrow that unit in terms of its accuracy and what it can achieve. Chinese lathes are very pretty and look to offer something for your money but once the surface is scratched and their accuracy is tested and quality examined they disappoint. Taiwanese lathes such as Grizzly, Hafco, Axminster, Precision Mathews and a cast of others all the same units but rebadged and in various hues will not disappoint. You get what you pay for in lathes and while you might feel I am a kill joy, in time you will reflect back and realise these words are absolutely true. For amateur newbie requirements what you have there will serve as a learning tool that wont rip your arm off or cause grievous bodily harm. If you venture into serious or fine machining then you will find you will eventually take interest in the Taiwanese machines mentioned.
I'm having a hard time understanding your post. What should he have bought? You seem to be saying that Grizzly and PM are made in Taiwan. Where are you getting your information? One other thing, have you read your post? Couldn't you have written something without being a jerk?
PM and Grizzly lathes are not made in Taiwan, as I doubt the others are. They are made on mainland China. I would love to have a small lathe made in Taiwan because my experience with tooling made in Taiwan is that it is high quality stuff. Mainland Chinese small lathes, as with their tooling is not generally of a very high quality.
obviously you do not have a freaking clue what you rant about
Ok... its imperial to the bone. No thanks :) That 0.394 dial made my day.. lol. 14:00
How stupid is imperial... How you can complicate your life with more numbers, fractions.
The only thing stupider than hating on imperial because of fractions existing is a metric pitch lathe labeled with inch handwheels.
A millimeter is 1/10 of a centimeter! OH NO! Fractions!!!
This is a cheap china lathe. Aliexpress D290V . Looks like they have just changed the logo and put on a quick change tool post.
What do you suggest buying instead?
@@billbryant1288 second hand larger lathe. Even a 30 year old lathe would be better. Look out for excessive bed wear closer to the chuck, this is where most of work would have been done over its life.
@@jandrews377 I'm familiar with the second hand option. I was hoping you could suggest something new.
He actually said that he fitted the tool post himself.
I think you are cheaper and far more useless