Inner Healing: With Jack Deere
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- Inner Healing: With Jack Deere
In this episode, our friend and Micael's mentor, Jack Deere, comes on the show to discuss inner healing. Does God perform inner healing, do we see inner healing in the bible, how do we practice inner healing and more. Hope you enjoy.
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Im blessed by Ptr Deere, loved Jesus in his teens, and wonderfull life , leader and mentoring upcoming pastors. Its fun that he wrote that sign in front of the church show off his service to God
Jack has had an amazing impact on my wife's life and mine. We would drive for hours to hear him. He gave a word of knowledge to me without knowing or seeing me through a friend, at a very difficult time in our life. That word saved our bacon. It lifted us up and carried us through a time of major rejection for over two years. He said ,"Man has kicked you out, but God has kicked you up." Thank you Jack, you are loved by us. Sincerely Gary and Sandy
I listened to this once and watched it with my bride later. I think both of us agree that one of Jack's strengths is demystifying subjects that tend to be complicated or controversial. At least we thought he did that in this episode...giving us common ground to agree on. And I really am thankful for you guys pressing the issues and difficult questions on this topic. We are of course still left with many questions so we'd love for you guys to consider a second episode. Stephanie brought up ideas and questions stemming from her counseling/psychology background (perhaps someone like Larry Crabb or Dan Allender would be good to interview here?), and I tend to want to explore more the theological assumptions (mainly views about God and man) in inner healing. We both have also had our own experiences with God and later on with inner healing. Our conversations about this topic have always come down to this question: Are we more sinful than wounded? Another way to put it: Is our biggest problem pain, or sin? I tend to think how folks answer these questions relate precisely to where they are on the counseling spectrum (Biblical counseling, Christian counseling, Counseling that's Christian etc.), how they view the atonement, and ultimately the problem of evil. There are those who sideline or completely deny penal substitution and develop atonement theories tailored specifically to accommodate the wounded. So, where does the modern practice of inner healing land on these issues? Or, a good research question would be: For those who go to inner healing or do inner healing, what are the most commonly held beliefs about man and God? It seems to me one of the driving assumptions behind some practices of inner healing is that man's biggest problem is how they've been wounded, not how they've wounded God; crimes against them, not their crimes against God. So built-in to some inner healing practices are assumptions that in themselves need to be addressed, but instead they serve as the actual pivot points. I'd argue that emphasis eventually cuts them off from genuine healing and being able to forgive others. I didn't intend to write this much, and it's my first ever TH-cam comment, so forgive me! Again, would be interested in an Inner Healing part 2.
He heals the broken-hearted and binds up their wounds. Psalm 147:3.
I love this so much. So refreshing. How about this. HE restoreth my ****soul**** hallelujah! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Thank you, Jack! Inner healing is often maligned. I am a grateful recipient of inner healing. I studied the Word, prayed, worshipped, was a participant in the church community, etc. I was steadily sanctified over that 30 year period. However, it wasn’t until I experienced inner healing at the age of 61 that I began experiencing the deep freedom Jesus bought for me at the cross. Your comments and answers to questions were excellent! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Inner healing ministries are so dangerous! Please consider my testimony, Cara’s inner healing horror….before continuing these practices.
@@caramares2669 many people need healing. God gives us healing. we have inner wounds that needs healing. Sure there are some dodgy stuff out there, but not all is from the devil.
I like the Biblical phrase, "soul healing"
Look at David’s prayer in Psalm 41:4:
I said, “LORD, be merciful to me;
Heal my soul, for I have sinned against You.”
Yes psalm 41:4 is a great scripture, but you can’t build a theology and ministry and book writing career of one single scripture pulled out of context.
@@markshaneh so, what dies heal my soul mean in any other way? There are other verses that say restore my soul . God cares about our emotions as much as salvation. I've been on that journey and come thru the other side.
@@matasaina2011 Paul I can’t remember the context of my statement, it was a few weeks ago now. But I do remember being a bit overwhelmed by Jacks lack of something
And thinking to myself this guy has authored a few books and his content seems quite emotionally based yet is promoted as move in the and a gift of the spirit Guy, I just felt underwhelmed by his teachings ✌️
I really like this show, and how you unpack a lot of issues and clarify then with Scripture!
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
As a veteran with PTS, what brother Deere is saying is right on.
Please pray for Jesus Christ to talk with me and tell me what is right to do, pray for him to help me get out of the mess that I've done in my life, and to be preserved as saved. Anyone who can, please pray. Thank you so much.
Can I give this video 1000 likes!! I’d sit here and hit that button ONE thousand times! Thank you!
I had inner healing sometime ago. I was an unexpected child. My mother did not want me. It opened a can of worms. My father suffered etc. Having that healing was
very relieving. I was particularly tormented prior the healing. I didn't understand until I had that healing.
The Holy Spirit actually showed me a baby in the womb chained. I knew I was unplanned so we understood what my vision meant.
Yeah the shortcut "Love the Lord your God" = "Obey God" has done so much damage. Great episode. I didn't know who this person was so now I have someone to follow up.
Also.... it doesn't sound like either of the hosts understand what its like to not have friends or understand how to get friends
Jesus was CONSTANTLY walking away to pray and be with our Father, Dr Deere then is so to the point that it is pivotal to be with Him, connecting, seeking to experience HIS LOVE to heal and change. Thanks, I so wish I had the means to travel and meet him in person and get the deliverance that per grace through his own suffering he became expert of. In the meanwhile, may there be many other interviews and conferences/ teachings. Moses leaded exodus past 80, heavenly Father please keep Dr Dr Deere with us until your precious son comes back.
Glad you liked the interview Myriam
Thanks folks for another excellent show
First listen fellas. Thank you 💙💙💙👊👊👊✝️✝️✝️🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Great show as usual!
Where does a person find someone who can minister to them in this way?
Thank you for sharing
Love hearing you all "unpack content".:-) God bless you brothers!
LOVE THIS! Appreciate you guys. Would love you guys to touch on the difference between this and SOZO prayer from Bethel. I believe you guys have touched on SOZO in a prior episode this year, but I cannot recall! (:
You don't ask people to imagine where Jesus was in the room when the trauma occurred. You ask the Lord to show them where He was when the event occurred . Or What would the Lord like to show you about the situation. The idea theologically is that God never leave us or forsakes us. If you are not a believer when you are traumatized, you simply believe the omnipresence of God - He saw it...
JESUS is everywhere all the time. I'm sure HE was there during traumatic experiences!!!
I have done inner healing with soaking, going back to the moment of trauma, applying the Blood of Jesus to the wound then sealing up the wound with the Glory Light. Here recently I’ve started to feel a little iffy about the process because it’s just that, a process & steps. I feel like I dealt in some kind of New Age practice or mysticism. I’m totally confused with inner healing now.
Inner healing is taught in the scriptures. But one should pray and seek the Lord in how to start this process. When words are used like “soaking, the glory light” I would feel iffy about it it too. Ask the Lord to forgive you of anything you may have participated in that was not of God. And ask the Holy Spirit to teach you what to do and for discernment. Some inner healing ministries say they are biblical but they either use new age methods or the “counselors” are wolves in sheep’s clothing (SOZO, theophostic). Pray for God to lead you.
@@cristidormiendo5743great answer! Yes, that seems like New Age practices with Christian language.
1:45 vacations I missed it
3:45 Wimber was one of the greatest healing evangelist of the last century; ravenhill didn't seem to think so but Wimber saw ppl get out of wheelchairs/blind eyes open
8:01 had a mentor that's convenient
It is useful to distinguish between the justification work of the Cross and that power to overwhelm any and all generational sin, trauma, hurt, pain etc. in making us blameless and whole before the Throne, and the process of sanctification that encompasses inner healing/emotional healing/spiritual clarity. Inner healing doesn’t presuppose a defect at the Cross because it is not coupled with justification. It comes post justification as part of sanctification.
I suffered trauma as a child that manifested as extreme sexual jealousy as an adult that destroyed every relationship. I believe it was a spirit because it harassed and consumed me beyond simple jealousy. I did not forgive anybody anything. I would encounter God years later and jealousy was one of the things that left me - I describe it as raging jealousy way beyond the pale. So besides being set free from methadone addiction, psyche meds and the love of street drugs, there was a full emotional healing as the Holy Spirit filled me. I suffered no withdrawal, even forgetting that I was ever a drug addict, my whole identity changed. So God did a healing that was both physical and emotional - as well as spiritual.
I agree that unforgiveness is an open door to demonic activity. When I got on my knees and prayed, the Holy Spirit would not just reveal Jesus to me as if a formula of the prayer I said from a tract. I was stopped at the point of asking for forgiveness and instructed to (led) forgive a long list of people who came to mind. He was leading me to forgive others as I asked for forgiveness for an equally long list of known sins. I say 'known' because some were not until God revealed them to be so.
Jesus can and does heal the whole person if the person being delivered is within the will of what the Holy Spirit is doing.
Inner healing ministries are so dangerous! Please consider my testimony, Cara’s inner healing horror….before continuing these practices.
I learned alot about what true inner healing is. It is biblical. I think other inner healing has kindof distorted it.
The bottom line is we must have a relationship with the holy spirit because he leads us to all truth (John 16:13). I was always taught by my spiritual mom to have an intimate relationship with the Holy Spirit. Jesus was always led by the Spirit. Even when he was in the desert, He was filled with the Spirit. Everything else falls into place.
these guys seem really nice
Regarding the long-winded question. In some other countries when a person is saved they go into the demon tense right after. Yes they are called the demon tents. And there are prime minister's that take that person and they sit them down or lie them down in the tent and they do prayers for generational healing and personal send healing and Trauma healing if it takes up to eight hours or more if they do it until the person is completely cleansed and free. It's a good rule of thumb to believe that every born again Christian it has generational issues and personal sensitive cause trauma and that they need inner healing and you can attach to that also Deliverance cuz they kind of go hand-in-hand. It may not seem fair if something's attached because of a great-great-grandfather's sin but that's the way it is in God is the guideline we are not in the more we know him in the more we seek Him He Reveals His mysteries on to us that's what the Bible says. That's why inner healing has come into being because the Lord's Mercy has created the reality of the ministry in the world. More and more is revealed over time as each person seeks God and people that have no more the through a humble Spirit seek to bring that to the world in the body of Christ Christian Ministry whether it's inner healing or different kinds of ministry. It's always good to go through inner healing. The Holy Spirit Will Reveal and evens not err on the side of okay I'm going to pretend this is true so I'm going to say the prayers and ask for God's healing and mercy in my life in this area. That's not going to hurt to say the prayers even if there's no issue. But if one doesn't know if there's an issue one can assume there's an issue and say the prayers and ask for God's guidance and healing to the power of His spirit. Just like Nutrition a person a couple of times a year not everyone but some people will do cleansing in their body nutritional cleansing it. All the more we should do spiritual cleansing pardon the cliche were cleansing you use whatever word you want for our spiritual health. It's kind of like continually repenting. And just asking the Lord to constantly seek our heart and getting Ministry prayer like a routine let's say twice a year once the foundational healing has been done. That's my rule of thumb over many many many many many years three decades. God bless you all. Abd pardon any typos this was audio text
Great helpful interview. Josh's volume was much lower than the other two
Faith and repentance (salvation and sanctification, in the community of the ekklesia) looks like:
Eph. 6:18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people. | 1 Tim. 2 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people- 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.
Hey guys is there anyway to get more information or meet for this? I’ve been fighting negative thoughts for a couple years now and have had on going health problems and I wanted to see about deliverance?
Faith and repentance aren't enough, because we are members of one body.
The blood of Jesus is enough.
2:00:00
What do you think is a qualified leader?
you mentioned (the host) that some people say faith and repentance is enough, but, James states that we are to confess our sins one to another THAT YOU MAY BE HEALED. my 2 cents.
Wait a minute…he said. 18:40 he has not heard or found in Bible if you have enough faith God will heal you. But here “So they were offended at Him. But Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own country and in his own house.” Now He did not do many mighty works there because of their unbelief.”
Matthew 13:57-58 NKJV
Can you explain this scripture, unbelief and healing. I believe everyone who desires healing, deliverance who seek Jesus sees it.
Where is my mentor Lord? I am ready!!
Reach out to Jacks adopted son who is a pastor. See about 8:00 in.
I realise Michael Roundtree was mentored by Jack Deere..and that's great. But since you are in Texas would you consider having Curry Blake (Of John G Lake ministries) on to dialogue on healing..physical and inner...He seems to be the most successful in that area of ministry and he challenges many traditional views on healing..which would be thought provoking for many..whether they agree or not.
Paul Robinson: sure id consider it. I’d probably want to familiarize myself with his ministry more.
@@TheRemnantRadio one example
th-cam.com/video/vSVw4ryY2Ts/w-d-xo.html
I stand to be corrected but the current healing rooms model (eg bethel) are somewhat related to John G Lake. I'm all for bethel but this may stir the hornet's nest among viewers.
@@matasaina2011from what I've heard from Curry Blake, though he hasn't mentioned them by name, JGL ministries critiques some of Bethel's healing approaches. I think you might be confusing the John G Lake Healing rooms in Spokane Washington with John G Lake ministries. Completely unrelated.
Curry Blake has said his ministry has trained all the street healing ministries that you see on TH-cam, including Todd White. So still a hornets nest, but Remnant have already gone there.
@@Liminalplace1 I don’t think he says JGLM trained them all but they all got their teaching from him ultimately, which sounds first presumptuous and then arrogant to me. You said he seems to be the most successful in that area, I would like to know why are you assuming that? Do you know a lot of people who got healed by him personally or his ministry or did you have an experience yourself or do you just trust him when he talks about the miracles he is seeing? Not trying to sound argumentative here I would really like to know and yes, I had my own experience with JGLM.
the Vineyard dude in me loves this but the formulaic approach of many pentecostals creeps me out... overhanded "words". etc
Is there a way to get in touch with Jack's ministry or church.
Talk to his adopted son who is a pastor. See around 8:00 in.
Can a christian have a demon in them when they are filled with the Holy Spirit and the bible says we are the temple of the Holy Spirit?
Good question Catherine - we should have brought that up, although I know what he believes about it and I agree with him..... the word the Bible sometimes translates as “demon-possessed,” would more literally be translated “demonized” - which means “to be influenced or oppressed by a demon.” So can Christians experience that? Absolutely. I think it’s a matter of semantics we get caught up in.
The early ekklesia had practices around this general area [study church history when you can because practices change by time, geography, creeds, denominations, congregation, etc.] One starting point: the relationship of exorcism and baptism (which is connected to receiving the gift [seal] of the Holy Spirit in the New Testament texts). Please read more than just this one article but hopefully it will begin the journey:
Authors such as Eusebius (3rd century) and Augustine (4th century) provide further details of these minor exorcisms, prayers and ceremonies performed over adults preparing for baptism. Eusebius mentions the imposition of hands and prayer. Among the Latins, and especially at Rome, breathing accompanied with a form of exorcism and placing in the mouth a little exorcised salt, was employed in addition to the signing with the cross and the imposition of hands. Mostly those in the minor order of exorcist performed the ceremony of exorcism, then a priest signed the catechumens with the cross and laid hands upon them. The final ceremony took place on Holy Saturday, when the priest himself performed the ceremony of exorcism.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_exorcism_in_Christianity#Ancient_practice
Exactly, no demons in the temple! Jesus healed the people of demon possession and then they followed him. (ie. Mary Magdalene & the demoniac on the shore) . Only the wicked are inhabited as in this story Jesus tell in Matthew 12, "43 “When an impure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. 44 Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. 45 Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation.” ...in this story notice that the house is unoccupied. We must have the Spirit living in us. To say that the sealed people of God can be demon possessed is to say that our cars could run on sugar instead of gasoline. A believers struggle is with his own flesh and powers from without, but not within.! Be Blessed, Be Diligent & Be Discerning!
If you really want to know the dangers of inner healing, see Cara’s Inner Healing Horror
My father and mother wound kept me from trusting God
Bible says a curse causeless shall not come come and that the sins of the fathers are passed down to the third and fourth Generations. There are real things such as familiar spirits and familiar spirits familiar Spirit might be a teenager hanging out with a bunch of drunks and then by his 20s he's drunk and that's a familiar Spirit that's got on to him. Familial Spirit would be one that's passed down to the family mind. And those kinds of spirits could be any kind of spirit just depending on how it takes its form whether it's lust greed Pride victimhood etcetera. You seem very evident in the word of God through the different stories like the demoniac who was freed and such Etc person being handed over to Satan etcetera. And it's evident if you just look at generational families just look at your neighbor as yourself your siblings or parents or grandparents your friends parents their habits the blessings and the curses are passed down. If you don't like the word curse called something else negative energy and set it up. But all is one needs to do and I don't mean to sit is a criticism is just look around you when it's very very evident. Thankfully Jesus is created a way for Freedom through the healing of memories through the healing of trauma through his Supernatural grace and mercy upon people through words of knowledge through gift in a healing ministers even through dreams at night that people have that God says I'm going to heal you now. This is happened to me in all of these forms and many more. And plenty of others I know around the country have gone through inner healing and the Holy Spirit has led their lives and has set them free overtime sometimes instantly in certain circumstances but then they still had other things to do for a man that took longer. Thank God for the gift of inner healing.
I ABUSE OREOS- deep confession time.
I love what Mr Deere is saying, sorry, but the moderators have probably never gone through severe pain in the soul. The way they talk about the topic is so superficial and non understanding. Let Mr Deere talk more. Let's listen to people who have the theoretical and practical experience.
Sorry Doris. I did not mean to come off a a rude way. Just so you know this is part of what we do on every episode. We’re trying to play the role of the conscious objector. So we interview Lutherans and Anglicans and Presbyterians a Methodist and Pentecostals, our job is moderators is to pull out of the guest relevant data while giving enough pushback so those from different backgrounds feel like their opinion is being heard.
I am someone who has been set free from years of trauma, abuse, and was in and out of psych wards. But when I came to Christ, I began to experience inner healing supernaturally. My whole life changed. When people suggested that I needed to start going to 'inner healing' and 'restoring the foundation', that's when a lot of confusion set it. It was so refreshing to hear that every question that concerned me about inner healing was addressed in this video. I had a problem when visualizing things at the prompting of someone else. Btw, I am one who dreams every night and have many visions. I am against all forms of manipulation and conjuring things up and calling it God. I also felt like the gospel should be enough to heal. Furthermore, I could not reconcile the fact that people believed that the gospel was not enough to deliver people from generational curses. So this video was so good and let me know that I was not alone in my questioning of some inner healing practices that are present today. Not to mention the ridiculous prices that are tagged onto the ministry. If you want to be inner healed, some places charge lots of money.
Just not finding jack very convincing, this stuff becomes pretty messy and unfortunately I’ve seen this type of theology/ therapy create more problems than solve them.
And good on you josh for your level headed questions and pushback, Michael and Miller would follow this guy over a cliff 🤕