The min you said you tested out Edge of Tomorrow - that pretty much makes this review completely legit. Most people going for all this newer Atmos and yes they are good but that DTS track of Edge of Tomorrow is crazy good.
The PB3000 is a godsend. A grand buys you a totally awesome audioiphile sub that is compact too. I just got an SB3000 to replace my 15 year old 15" sub. The SB outperforms it, and super costly subs from just a few years ago. I chose the SB, I much prefer sealed subs for my medium room applications. I feel that they have better musicality (musical quality/articulation/definition) than just sheer boom. If I had a larger room, I might use ported for HT. Meanwhile, the output is unholy for such a compact sub.
I just got my dual pb3000's and on this video they look small. Before I got them I was kind of skeptical and was hoping I would be impressed compared to what I had. But when they are in person they are very impressive in size, quite large especially when I compared them to my old Polk PSW505. I ran the same test he did and things didn't just rattle, EVERYTHING RATTLED even parts of the foundation/walls. These are insanely impressive. Overkill for an apartment but will be moving soon LOL.
I was honestly quite impressed with my PSW505 for the money, it hit those low rumbling notes pretty well which is what I look for... how does the PB-3000 compare overall? Is it a massive difference?
I'm contemplating upgrading my dual PB-1000's (2016 version, not pro) to dual PB-3000's. I love the look of it, and that excursion is just magnificent. Going from 300W RMS to 800W RMS is almost triple the power, I know that won't equal triple increase in volume, but it will most likely be a significant upgrade. I see PB-1000's still go for $400 used here in norway ($700 new), so hoping to get some back for mine even though they're "old"
I went from ported subs in my car audio life to sealed and I never looked back. If tuned correctly sealed subs will always sound better and deliver way more accurate sound/punch with any type of sound. Great review!
Great video! Now I am stuck with a choice I like the SB 3000 because of the size easy to find a spot. But I like the PB 3000 but the size might be a issue. Is it worth getting the SB or should I get the PB and make it fit somewhere? Thanks!
I'm exactly on the same boat! Which one did you pick up at the end? Sealed or not sealed? The PB-3000 is also quite much more expensive where I live ( +36% !)
Which one is your favourite? Or which one is best for what? Like music, movies and games. I've had a closed and ported sub now but I prefer how sharp my closed sub is but it doesn't hit the same lows as your monsters! You should make a vid of the best setup for each type of media consumption bro!!
That SB4000 is calling my name...I'm thinking that will completely destroy my Klipsch spl-115. Might be bumping the Klipsch to the workout room and that will take over my home theatre duties!!!
Not sure if you are still responding to comments on this video, but if you are, where is your volume at (both on the AVR and on the sub itself) during the 10:05 mark when the PB 3000 is blowing crazy air like that? Do you have it pegged out?
I can not make up my mind to go ported or sealed. I haven’t owned ported to know if they will work best for home theater or sealed. Sealed IMO are best for music.
I just got the SB-3000 to replace my 3000 micro. or been thinking of putting my 3000 micro under my bed use it as a rear sub then sb 3000 as a front unit, but depends on the performance.
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude 0.0dB reference on the receiver with 60% gain on sub... is what reference levels? hahah and how is the difference the thx and normal reference?
dsp is for tuning the subs response to be flat as possible in your room. You measure with a microphone and software and you make adjustments on the dsp app. I would think it would have zero issue hitting THX standard, but I didnt test it. It is plenty loud and I couldnt bottom it out
Hello…thinking about getting the pb3000 I have svs ultras towers already gloss black ones . Wish they had the pb3000s in same glossy black but oh well .I also have the svs prime center wish I had the ultra one but got to expensive at the time so I’m definitely now about to pull the trigger on one pb3000 as I would have all svs great speakers. Thank for your time an I will subscribe to your channel as well niceeee review keep up the nice work👍🏻Happy holidays take care .
i liked how you explained the transience/speed difference between the sealed and ported i suspect i will be mostly using for surround music as i have invested a lot in my surround music collection,and music i repeat listen for years,i rarely watch a movie twice,but i do love movies too i suspect sealed may be the ticket for me due to your descriptions,but i wonder how close to the speed and transience i would get with the ported if i used the seal plugs? Would they be an even match? i ask because i am confused by the 400.00 difference between the 2 SB and PB,they appear the exact same except for size and sealed or ported What is the extra 400.00 getting me with the ported? Cheers
its worth it. buy both if you have the funds and do a side by side test for yourself. I upgraded from the sealed to ported and never looked back. You can slightly increase the transience when plugging the ports and changing the setting on the amp to sealed mode
The graphs on SVS's website are only base frequency response graphs,definitely not max output graphs (and they state this on their site). The level is only whatever is needed to be high enough above the noise floor on that particular day of testing the DUT.I think the PB-3000 probably has something like 2-3dB less MAX output under 40Hz, but closes the gap above that when compared to the PB-4000
For some reason I have to turn my volume up on my speakers to make the volume on the sub go loud, I can’t find anything amp or devices that I can buy that would allow me to separate the sub and the speakers into two volume channels
Hey great channel. Currently wrestling with which sub to buy. Pb2000 pro or pb3000. Currently have older Polk psw10 in a room about 14.5x 16.5x 8. Watch tv, movies and listen to music. Room opens up to another room.
Enjoying this SB-3000 really great. One thing I've noticed if you disable Room Gain Compensation, while testing content it make popping sound. Not sure why that happens idk... Anyhoo! SB-3000 reminds me of my wife hot and loud. 💪😂
Great review.. I've got a single svs pb13 ultra with a Bash amp that I'm looking at changing to a sledge amp.. Also looking at trying to grab a second pb13 ultra if I can find one cheap enough.. Would this be the best option for me or look at replacing with a pair of the newer 3000 models or stick with the 13s?thanks
Let me know if you ever don't have enough room for more speakers *slight nudge Anyways...Great video and always look forward for when they come out! Keep up the good work :)
When I did car systems, a 10" or 12" sub usually put out more sound than a 15". The 15" hit lower and shook more, but pure SPL usually went to the smaller speaker with the same power. I love sealed boxes, I am a huge Chicago fan and sealed just sounds so much better for music. After watching this video though, I love ported as well. It was awesome to see the carpet strands move from the air moved out the ports, the 4000 series was just plain impressive. What do you think about Parasound home amps ? I am looking at a 180w or 280w @ 8 ohm bridged mono amp to run my 12" Alpine Type R sub. it unfortunately looks like the giveaway sub video won't hit 25k for a while and I found a good deal on the amp. I wish I had the money for the PB-3000 as it would be great ported for movies and then sealed for music.
Hopefully the giveaway video with mature soon. Its past half way. The parasound a31 amplifier is amazing. Im actually going to be reviewing the A51 and A52+ really soon. I cant wait. The amp is powerful and brings a strong and warm soundscape to the speakers. I wish I could keep it.
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Know anything about Parasound HCA-800 or the smaller HCA-600 ? I just looked up the models you mentioned. Yeah, $3000-$5000 is not anywhere in my price range. I can get the models I mentioned around $150 or less and can get the HCA-800 locked in Standby mode real cheap. ( I fix electronics and know of a few problems these have )
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude A few of the caps are the typical problem. I will likely replace them all while I would have it apart. They seem to be regarded well and most hifi reviews say you need to step up to 2x to 3x the price to get better. I am looking at a NAD amp as well. How about Adcom GFA-2. It was tested at around 170w at 4 ohms so 340w combined in a dual voice coil 4 ohm 12" sub.
Be careful with the room gain compensation. If you turn it off/on while listening to music it makes popping sound(s). I had mine for three weeks and already changed the amp. They might need to look into this. If you have popping sounds send it back. Overall, great subwoofer.
i dont use the room gain. sounds like it was ran pretty hot to get that to happen. I run these to maximum at reference then back off a few db that way i will never run into clipping
Did the PB hit those lower notes better being ported? Depth and room shaking rumbling is what I'm looking for on my next sub... I had a Polk PSW505 and honestly I really liked it, but it would cut out at the deepest notes and eventually the amp blew after a ton of use
Great Review, decided to go with one PB3000 for now, its crazy, shakes the whole house. I will end up duals for sure, just spreading the wealth out a bit. I can get a great deal on 2 of the SB16 ultras, would be about 400 more total, do you think dual SB16 ultras can still tackle the low end in movies ? if you had to choose from 2 x PB3000 or 2 x SB16 Ultra, which would you go with ? I like the PB3000 but deep down, I love the 8" voice coil technology and they don't stick out as far from the wall as the PB3000
Awsome video! If I ever would upgrade my pb12 nsd, I think I would get this or maybe the 4000 for the look but I will be getting a Denon x6300h in the mail! Atmos and DTS:X here we come! So hyped! I might need to invest in some elevations from svs XD
Many thanks for your review! it is very well done, you have a new fan from France now:) I am very interested in the SB-3000 in white gloss special edition because it is the only one also fitting perfectly my furniture. Do you think I can mix it with a "Focal Sub 1000f" on Yamaha RXA-2080 (real 7.2 I think)? I would like to avoid selling my Focal which is pretty good. I hope the SB-3000 could bring me more deep bass with its 18Hz frequency but not sure if playing both together would work properly? Thanks in advance for your advices:) Do you ship to France? (SVS 500 $ much cheaper in US lucky you:)!)
I currently have a Paradigm Studio Sub 12, it's a pretty decent unit but drops off dramatically once you get near 20hz. I've been considering a SB 3000 to replace it, will the low end of the SB 3000 outperform the sub 12?
How much low end performance do you think you would lose going from an old style 325watt PB12-NSD (or a PB2000 if you've never heard those) to the sealed SB3000? For strictly movies, do you think the SB3000 would be an upgrade or a downgrade over the PB12 in an open style living room setting (2800^3 ft) if listening at moderate volume levels (around -20 on the AVR)?
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude mine is from 2008. They updated the model around 2012 I believe, then replaced the model completely with the PB2000. Also they still sell a limited amount of the discontinued PB12-NSD's during black friday in the US. Mine has their older driver and a 325watt BASH amp.
oh yeaahhhh i forgot. The 400w pb12-nsd was awesome. It had tons of room filing bass and dug deep down to the equator. The pb-2000 is the replacement of the pb12 and it has even more output. You will definitely noticed a big upgrade in overall soundscape if you upgrade.
I'm conflicted I want to upgrade from what I have 2X Martin Logan Dynamo700's I feel they don't exactly get me where I would like and I have been looking at SVS for almost 2 years now but can't make the decision on what to get. So I will ask you this would 1 sb3000 be enough to replace my dual set up or should I look at getting 2? Second question would be should I get SB or PB I can never make up my mind on the 2. I got to factor the price difference too for the PB. Again would 1 be ok maybe 2 of them would be overkill? my theatre set up is in a box room of 20X20 I run all high end stuff for a normal guy but I've always had the feeling I either made the wrong choice with my dual Logan's even if they sound great they just feel like they don't stand out as much as the rest of my system. Thanks for taking time to help me out as it's a good investment to change subwoofers especially when you're running a dual set-up.
for a space that big you may want to look into two. you dont have to do it all at once. especially if price is a factor. For larger spaces I always say that the ported versions work best. You can also seal the ports and switch the sub to "Sealed" mode to help get that sealed sound. I dont believe in overkill. If you have your system setup proper there is no such thing. My room is never obnoxious and it sounds as good or better than the movie theaters. You local? I can send you a link to buy if youd like
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude I'm in Canada so don't think I'm local to you but as far as price I don't think I'm getting a deal but I can get the 2000 for 1080$ Canadian free shipping plus taxes. I didn't think my room was considered big but from what I've picked up in the last weeks is the 2000 would be my best choice and yes I could invest in a second one down the road if needed. Thanks for the fast response!
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude am I getting a good price for the PB-2000? I have another question for you I want to add bipolar surround speakers and really not sure what to get do you have any suggestions for me? I would love to get the SVS ultimate but not ready to dish out 800$ on a pair of surround speakers I would prefer staying in the 500$ or less number after all they only push out background sound and not as important as the towers and centre speaker. I am running high end towers and centre and have pretty good mono rears I don't want cheap stuff but I don't need to go as expensive for those speakers.
I'm not really clear after seeing this review when the SB-3000 is good vs when someone really should step up to the PB-3000. Any advise on this? E.g. Room sizes over X size should go ported, if you listen to a lot of music you should go sealed, etc?
Would you say 2 pb3000 will give you more tactile bass or 1 pb16ultra? I currently own 1 pb3000 and wanted a little more umph. Was going to either buy another pb3000 or return the current one I have and get a pb16ultra. Thanks!
The 3000 hits like a 18-wheeler,. I would say you arent missing much my going with the 3000. Transience is vastly improved over the 4000 series and the 4000 was great already. Im really liking the 3000s right now.
I LUUUUUUVE MY MONITOR AUDIO BRONZE SUBBWOOFER,IN MY BEDROOM AS PART OFF A 7,1 4KUHD SURROUND SOUND,WATCHED GEOSTORM IN BLUE RAY AND THE MONITOR SUBBWOOFER WAS DEEP CLEAN AND PURE BLISSFULL BASS.💪💪😉✌👌
Im selling my SB16. Now i dont know which i should take.. SB2000 or SB3000 I had the 2000 before the SB16 and had no Problems but wanted the App Control. Dont know how the Amps are
If i remember correct they may be adding something to the older subs for app control later on in the year, but the 3000 is plenty. It gives you the slam when you need it and the quiet notes for music too.
You should do a SB-3000 vs PB-3000 with plugged ports. Sealed subwoofers are always preferred, if you focus on music performance. If PB-3000 performs well in both plugged/unplugged, it makes more sense in a dual purpose home theater.
@@randysalsman6992 Bet his house is Pink lol, I never understood that wife acceptance factor thing. Should have married someone else. My wife loves jamming out to my system. Told my wife I just ordered 2 svspb3000's she said cool are they louder? My response, oh yeah.
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Thanks my man would really appreciate it. I Really dig your setup and your videos are ace man i watch them all. You got the ultimate batchelor pad love it..
The 4000 does sound different than the 3000. The differences are hard to explane, it appears to be a difference in sound quality, yet both play well. Power and size plus build difference just make a sound difference.
I didnt notice it bottoming out. It has alot of x max. The microphone picks up different things than we hear though. Just on that scene the 16 has a fair amount of port noise. The 3000 had minimal and the 4000 was more towards the 3000 than 16
Sb3000...will be my Christmas gift to my family. Thanks!
And your neighbors 🤣🤣🤣
Hell yes! Can't wait for December 25th 2024! We can do a whole week of movies together
I love my SB-3000 it really has surprised my expectations. One of the best subs I've owned.
aint that the truth
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude does the svs sb 1000 have a mosfet amp
Just ordered it yesterday. Can't wait!!!
i am in two minds, should i go with SB or PB? What do you think? I can save $400 going with SB?
@@chinlaiyo9565 No.
Those subs are nice but I'm in love with the RF-7 iii. I've have my pair soon!
The Rf7III are floorstanders. The bass isn''t even close to this sub.
The min you said you tested out Edge of Tomorrow - that pretty much makes this review completely legit. Most people going for all this newer Atmos and yes they are good but that DTS track of Edge of Tomorrow is crazy good.
The PB3000 is a godsend. A grand buys you a totally awesome audioiphile sub that is compact too. I just got an SB3000 to replace my 15 year old 15" sub. The SB outperforms it, and super costly subs from just a few years ago. I chose the SB, I much prefer sealed subs for my medium room applications. I feel that they have better musicality (musical quality/articulation/definition) than just sheer boom. If I had a larger room, I might use ported for HT. Meanwhile, the output is unholy for such a compact sub.
Do you use the sb3000 for HT as well? I have a small Home theater room
That pb-3000 really moves when those low hertz tones comes :O Great review as usual!
Awesome review. Can't wait for the PB3000 VS PB4000 comparison.
Loved seeing all four sub's playing together, seems the PB3000 had the most excursion.
Why wait? Check it out here th-cam.com/video/Fz8zdqi2gkU/w-d-xo.html
I just got my dual pb3000's and on this video they look small. Before I got them I was kind of skeptical and was hoping I would be impressed compared to what I had. But when they are in person they are very impressive in size, quite large especially when I compared them to my old Polk PSW505. I ran the same test he did and things didn't just rattle, EVERYTHING RATTLED even parts of the foundation/walls. These are insanely impressive. Overkill for an apartment but will be moving soon LOL.
Sb3000 should be pretty good for a small room in appartment right?
@@20puskinas1992 ur funny. Honestly though should be fine when they come ah knocking its too much.
I was honestly quite impressed with my PSW505 for the money, it hit those low rumbling notes pretty well which is what I look for... how does the PB-3000 compare overall? Is it a massive difference?
@@20puskinas1992 Absolutely!! It crushes in my small room. Velvet hammer...
I have had duel Pb16 since they came out and they continue to amaze me! That Pb3000 seems pretty awesome also. Great video!!!
Thanks Mark
Should i get the PB-1000, 2000, 0r 3000? Have a 13' by 18' by 8' room@@ThatHomeTheaterDude
One of the best sub-series out there...
The excursion on the 3000s! Nuts!
Massive amounts of excursion!
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Is that good or not? Can the vibration be ennoying?
Nice! also, The website says "Frequency response graph does not denote maximum output capability" So its just to show the response curve.
I realized that after I filmed. Thanks for keeping up
I'm contemplating upgrading my dual PB-1000's (2016 version, not pro) to dual PB-3000's. I love the look of it, and that excursion is just magnificent. Going from 300W RMS to 800W RMS is almost triple the power, I know that won't equal triple increase in volume, but it will most likely be a significant upgrade. I see PB-1000's still go for $400 used here in norway ($700 new), so hoping to get some back for mine even though they're "old"
Always been in love with the SVS Ultra PB-16, looks like the 4000 is pretty legit
Fasho
These babies will cost you more than a car, but when you die you can be buried in them! Bo us points if u know what movie that's from?
Make sure you do pb4000 vs pb3000 in same spot. Either both with or without iso feet.
too late. filmed it and i was about to move the subs. they heavy man
I took the SVS SB3000 to T.H.E. Show and I was impressed!
Joe N Tell Munich?
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude oh no. Local show to me called T.H.E. Show in Long Beach.
Thats great buddy. I love the content. Maybe we can team up someday
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude I love doing collabs.
hell yeah brother. I would be psyched to work together. Lets do it
Watching those speakers reverberating is so cool, it's like they're possessed.
What size is your room? Thanks.
That teleport in at the start though.
Why are Subwoofer videos are so addicting? :D
Josh M hahaha didn’t think anyone would notice.
I went from ported subs in my car audio life to sealed and I never looked back. If tuned correctly sealed subs will always sound better and deliver way more accurate sound/punch with any type of sound. Great review!
How do you tune them correctly?
Which one would be best to consider instead of Klipsch SPL-150?
Very good demo. Big help on my decision what model to buy. The clip is very useful.
Can you review XTZ Sub 12.17 Edge?
Is that sound alright? At 10:10 ? That's fine?
Sounded normal to me.
Great video! Now I am stuck with a choice I like the SB 3000 because of the size easy to find a spot. But I like the PB 3000 but the size might be a issue. Is it worth getting the SB or should I get the PB and make it fit somewhere? Thanks!
I'm exactly on the same boat! Which one did you pick up at the end? Sealed or not sealed? The PB-3000 is also quite much more expensive where I live ( +36% !)
Waiting on this one deffo worth it!! Heard some shake on my end... then I saw the camera shake when all four played, I'm jealous lol🔥🔥🔥
The camera shake was pretty cool
Which one is your favourite? Or which one is best for what? Like music, movies and games. I've had a closed and ported sub now but I prefer how sharp my closed sub is but it doesn't hit the same lows as your monsters!
You should make a vid of the best setup for each type of media consumption bro!!
i like ported. you can always plug the ports to increase the sealed like sound
Anxious to see the results between the PB3000 vs PB4000. Those are my two choices when I upgrade my subs.
th-cam.com/video/Fz8zdqi2gkU/w-d-xo.html here ya go buddy. Why wait?
Thanks dude, my pair of sb 3000’s just arrived today.
awesome! what you think man?
Yeah are they any good?
That SB4000 is calling my name...I'm thinking that will completely destroy my Klipsch spl-115. Might be bumping the Klipsch to the workout room and that will take over my home theatre duties!!!
you in the states? give me a shout and ill help you grab one or two
That Home Theater Dude in Michigan....one or 2??? We robbing a bank first 😂😂😂
RomanEmpireRSVR cool man. Send me an email and I’ll get you sorted. TheHomeTheaterDude at gmail
You are here as well 😁
So, which one did You get to substitute 115? I'm thinking what to consider instead of SPL-150...
@@8000860 I bought dual HSU VTF 3 MK5's. They are crazy deep in bass.
Awesome video bro. Those are some beast. Can really see the passion for home theater bro keep the videos coming.
Thanks ELI ! i have been putting alot more effort into them
Should i get the PB-1000, 2000, 0r 3000? Have a 13' by 18' by 8' room
Can you share clip Egypt tomorrow to test subwoofers?
A Idea: Use REW in SB 3000 vs PB 3000 at same position for know whats the differences between sealed vs ported in graphs at real world.
I agree, this would be some nice information to see on this series.
He doesn't know how to use REW. As evident of placing a mic a few inches away from the driver and then calling that a measurement.
There is measurement and there is measurement plus room gain. I was trying to minimize the effect.
Where are the numbers then?
great stuff, really appreciate your videos
Always with excellent reviews. Great video.
Not sure if you are still responding to comments on this video, but if you are, where is your volume at (both on the AVR and on the sub itself) during the 10:05 mark when the PB 3000 is blowing crazy air like that? Do you have it pegged out?
nope the ported wasnt maxed. i check volume control on the svs app.
84lbs vs 150+ lbs and my theater is upstairs? hmmmmm :) and YEAH those RF-7 III's are gorgeous and huge! :)
And bass is only into the 30's, not even close.
Beeeeeeeen waiting for this one! Great video as usual bro👍
I still don't know which one to buy 3000m or the 4,000m. My apartment is big enough, I run all the boxes here with the Denon 4400h.
3000 is plenty
I can not make up my mind to go ported or sealed. I haven’t owned ported to know if they will work best for home theater or sealed. Sealed IMO are best for music.
If you want the most realistic experience for movies, go ported.
Plus you can always get the plugs from SVS, so you can seal the pb version, but you will still have the bigger woofer
I have a 15 square meter room, would the pb3000 or sb3000 be better?
does the sb3000 echo less and has the same performance as the pb3000?
I just got the SB-3000
to replace my 3000 micro.
or been thinking of putting my 3000 micro under my bed use it as a rear sub then sb 3000 as a front unit, but depends on the performance.
I need an in depth review of the rf 7 iii (even though i just bought the forte iii). WE ALL DO!
Its coming
Can SB3000 get powerfull sound in reference level without clipping?
THX or normal reference?
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude 0.0dB reference on the receiver with 60% gain on sub... is what reference levels? hahah
and how is the difference the thx and normal reference?
THX standard is different than reference. Yes the 3000 will hit reference no problem. I pushed these really far and had zero issue
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude but can he get the thx reference or don't? and he has a dsp to prevent fail?
dsp is for tuning the subs response to be flat as possible in your room. You measure with a microphone and software and you make adjustments on the dsp app. I would think it would have zero issue hitting THX standard, but I didnt test it. It is plenty loud and I couldnt bottom it out
might add a pair of these with my pb-1000 get that 4 bass going!!!
Hello…thinking about getting the pb3000 I have svs ultras towers already gloss black ones . Wish they had the pb3000s in same glossy black but oh well .I also have the svs prime center wish I had the ultra one but got to expensive at the time so I’m definitely now about to pull the trigger on one pb3000 as I would have all svs great speakers. Thank for your time an I will subscribe to your channel as well niceeee review keep up the nice work👍🏻Happy holidays take care .
The sound clip was very useful. Wonder if the Sb3000 will outgun my Sunfire true eq?
I have a PSA XV15 and it has great bass! But I would love to have one of those svs subs! Awesome vid!
Which is better for cinema between the two subwoofers?
i liked how you explained the transience/speed difference between the sealed and ported
i suspect i will be mostly using for surround music as i have invested a lot in my surround music collection,and music i repeat listen for years,i rarely watch a movie twice,but i do love movies too
i suspect sealed may be the ticket for me due to your descriptions,but i wonder how close to the speed and transience i would get with the ported if i used the seal plugs? Would they be an even match?
i ask because i am confused by the 400.00 difference between the 2 SB and PB,they appear the exact same except for size and sealed or ported
What is the extra 400.00 getting me with the ported?
Cheers
its worth it. buy both if you have the funds and do a side by side test for yourself. I upgraded from the sealed to ported and never looked back. You can slightly increase the transience when plugging the ports and changing the setting on the amp to sealed mode
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Thank you
The graphs on SVS's website are only base frequency response graphs,definitely not max output graphs (and they state this on their site). The level is only whatever is needed to be high enough above the noise floor on that particular day of testing the DUT.I think the PB-3000 probably has something like 2-3dB less MAX output under 40Hz, but closes the gap above that when compared to the PB-4000
cool Thanks for the info
I noticed the deepness. I don't know if I like all the extra gargle sounds, air, and rattles from the ported subs.
I’d like to see a comparison with the Monolith by Monoprice subwoofers because those are beasts.
They declined to work with me. I tried though
For some reason I have to turn my volume up on my speakers to make the volume on the sub go loud, I can’t find anything amp or devices that I can buy that would allow me to separate the sub and the speakers into two volume channels
sounds like you need to recalibrate
Great Video, thanks!
Hi what you recommend PB 2000 or SB 3000 ?
sb-3k. its powerful and precise
Hey great channel. Currently wrestling with which sub to buy. Pb2000 pro or pb3000. Currently have older Polk psw10 in a room about 14.5x 16.5x 8. Watch tv, movies and listen to music. Room opens up to another room.
id go pb-3000. give me a shout if you wanna buy one 972-322-4607
Nice review always detail on everything equipment keep it up👍👍👍👍
buddy should i get the sb-3000 or pb -3000
i love the ported version. both are great. The 3000 has tons of output and its fast
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude my room is small its only 16x9
yeah, then i would go sealed. Ported sounds great and has a fair amount of output
Enjoying this SB-3000 really great. One thing I've noticed if you disable Room Gain Compensation, while testing content it make popping sound. Not sure why that happens idk... Anyhoo! SB-3000 reminds me of my wife hot and loud. 💪😂
She italian or Latina? Those are usually the loud ones hahaa
Great review.. I've got a single svs pb13 ultra with a Bash amp that I'm looking at changing to a sledge amp.. Also looking at trying to grab a second pb13 ultra if I can find one cheap enough.. Would this be the best option for me or look at replacing with a pair of the newer 3000 models or stick with the 13s?thanks
Let me know if you ever don't have enough room for more speakers
*slight nudge
Anyways...Great video and always look forward for when they come out! Keep up the good work :)
When I did car systems, a 10" or 12" sub usually put out more sound than a 15". The 15" hit lower and shook more, but pure SPL usually went to the smaller speaker with the same power. I love sealed boxes, I am a huge Chicago fan and sealed just sounds so much better for music. After watching this video though, I love ported as well. It was awesome to see the carpet strands move from the air moved out the ports, the 4000 series was just plain impressive. What do you think about Parasound home amps ? I am looking at a 180w or 280w @ 8 ohm bridged mono amp to run my 12" Alpine Type R sub. it unfortunately looks like the giveaway sub video won't hit 25k for a while and I found a good deal on the amp. I wish I had the money for the PB-3000 as it would be great ported for movies and then sealed for music.
Hopefully the giveaway video with mature soon. Its past half way. The parasound a31 amplifier is amazing. Im actually going to be reviewing the A51 and A52+ really soon. I cant wait. The amp is powerful and brings a strong and warm soundscape to the speakers. I wish I could keep it.
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Know anything about Parasound HCA-800 or the smaller HCA-600 ? I just looked up the models you mentioned. Yeah, $3000-$5000 is not anywhere in my price range. I can get the models I mentioned around $150 or less and can get the HCA-800 locked in Standby mode real cheap. ( I fix electronics and know of a few problems these have )
I havent tried those but if they were made past 1991 they should be excellent quality. Im sure you know to replace the capacitors ever 5-10 years
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude A few of the caps are the typical problem. I will likely replace them all while I would have it apart. They seem to be regarded well and most hifi reviews say you need to step up to 2x to 3x the price to get better. I am looking at a NAD amp as well. How about Adcom GFA-2. It was tested at around 170w at 4 ohms so 340w combined in a dual voice coil 4 ohm 12" sub.
I have an arcam P1000. Do you think you could check it over?
Love the video would love it if you make a budget-friendly Home theater audio system video under 1500 dollars
th-cam.com/video/jUo15g2DdO8/w-d-xo.html I have done it before but I can try again
Be careful with the room gain compensation. If you turn it off/on while listening to music it makes popping sound(s). I had mine for three weeks and already changed the amp. They might need to look into this. If you have popping sounds send it back. Overall, great subwoofer.
i dont use the room gain. sounds like it was ran pretty hot to get that to happen. I run these to maximum at reference then back off a few db that way i will never run into clipping
Would any recommend I use 2 Pb-3000, or should I just go with 1 sub, or go with 2 subs from a different brand?
What is better 3000 pro 4000 ???
depends on your room. the 4000 has more output. If you have a small to medium room i would say go w the 3000 go more if you have more
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Hey thanks My room habe 5x6 Meter is the 4000 to great???
yeah that should be fine
Did the PB hit those lower notes better being ported? Depth and room shaking rumbling is what I'm looking for on my next sub... I had a Polk PSW505 and honestly I really liked it, but it would cut out at the deepest notes and eventually the amp blew after a ton of use
ported are tuned slightly lower and will deliver more output than the sealed versions.
Good Demo
Great Review, decided to go with one PB3000 for now, its crazy, shakes the whole house. I will end up duals for sure, just spreading the wealth out a bit. I can get a great deal on 2 of the SB16 ultras, would be about 400 more total, do you think dual SB16 ultras can still tackle the low end in movies ? if you had to choose from 2 x PB3000 or 2 x SB16 Ultra, which would you go with ?
I like the PB3000 but deep down, I love the 8" voice coil technology and they don't stick out as far from the wall as the PB3000
two 3000s. They have crazy output and are very good for movies.
Awsome video! If I ever would upgrade my pb12 nsd, I think I would get this or maybe the 4000 for the look but I will be getting a Denon x6300h in the mail! Atmos and DTS:X here we come! So hyped! I might need to invest in some elevations from svs XD
Cool!. Let me know and i can send you a link for a set of the prime elevations. I just ordered my 3rd set :)
3rd set? Where will you be putting them man haha. Also i live in the Netherlands so i dont think that the link will work?
Many thanks for your review! it is very well done, you have a new fan from France now:) I am very interested in the SB-3000 in white gloss special edition because it is the only one also fitting perfectly my furniture. Do you think I can mix it with a "Focal Sub 1000f" on Yamaha RXA-2080 (real 7.2 I think)? I would like to avoid selling my Focal which is pretty good. I hope the SB-3000 could bring me more deep bass with its 18Hz frequency but not sure if playing both together would work properly? Thanks in advance for your advices:) Do you ship to France? (SVS 500 $ much cheaper in US lucky you:)!)
you can mix and match. id say stay sealed or stay ported and make sure phase is aligned properly
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude many thanks for your prompt answer. I will go for it and reply when my neighbours will knock on the door😄
I bet they would really thump and would love to hear them in action next.
for LARGE room what is better sealed or ported version? hardwood floor, high ceiling (10ft), no doors
Ported for sure
I currently have a Paradigm Studio Sub 12, it's a pretty decent unit but drops off dramatically once you get near 20hz. I've been considering a SB 3000 to replace it, will the low end of the SB 3000 outperform the sub 12?
Dual PB 3000 or one PB 16 ultra?
How big is your room? Do you sit in one spot or multiple?
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude 2400 cubic feet. I only sit in one spot but obviously id have guests. Leaning 3000s
yeah 3000s for sure
How much low end performance do you think you would lose going from an old style 325watt PB12-NSD (or a PB2000 if you've never heard those) to the sealed SB3000? For strictly movies, do you think the SB3000 would be an upgrade or a downgrade over the PB12 in an open style living room setting (2800^3 ft) if listening at moderate volume levels (around -20 on the AVR)?
how old we talking? i had the pb12-nsd a year and a half ago
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude mine is from 2008. They updated the model around 2012 I believe, then replaced the model completely with the PB2000. Also they still sell a limited amount of the discontinued PB12-NSD's during black friday in the US. Mine has their older driver and a 325watt BASH amp.
oh yeaahhhh i forgot. The 400w pb12-nsd was awesome. It had tons of room filing bass and dug deep down to the equator. The pb-2000 is the replacement of the pb12 and it has even more output. You will definitely noticed a big upgrade in overall soundscape if you upgrade.
I'm conflicted I want to upgrade from what I have 2X Martin Logan Dynamo700's I feel they don't exactly get me where I would like and I have been looking at SVS for almost 2 years now but can't make the decision on what to get. So I will ask you this would 1 sb3000 be enough to replace my dual set up or should I look at getting 2?
Second question would be should I get SB or PB I can never make up my mind on the 2. I got to factor the price difference too for the PB. Again would 1 be ok maybe 2 of them would be overkill?
my theatre set up is in a box room of 20X20 I run all high end stuff for a normal guy but I've always had the feeling I either made the wrong choice with my dual Logan's even if they sound great they just feel like they don't stand out as much as the rest of my system.
Thanks for taking time to help me out as it's a good investment to change subwoofers especially when you're running a dual set-up.
for a space that big you may want to look into two. you dont have to do it all at once. especially if price is a factor. For larger spaces I always say that the ported versions work best. You can also seal the ports and switch the sub to "Sealed" mode to help get that sealed sound. I dont believe in overkill. If you have your system setup proper there is no such thing. My room is never obnoxious and it sounds as good or better than the movie theaters. You local? I can send you a link to buy if youd like
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude I'm in Canada so don't think I'm local to you but as far as price I don't think I'm getting a deal but I can get the 2000 for 1080$ Canadian free shipping plus taxes. I didn't think my room was considered big but from what I've picked up in the last weeks is the 2000 would be my best choice and yes I could invest in a second one down the road if needed. Thanks for the fast response!
yeah buddy. my room is 17x18 and the 3000 fills the space pretty well
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude and you have just 1?
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude am I getting a good price for the PB-2000? I have another question for you I want to add bipolar surround speakers and really not sure what to get do you have any suggestions for me? I would love to get the SVS ultimate but not ready to dish out 800$ on a pair of surround speakers I would prefer staying in the 500$ or less number after all they only push out background sound and not as important as the towers and centre speaker. I am running high end towers and centre and have pretty good mono rears I don't want cheap stuff but I don't need to go as expensive for those speakers.
Dont have the space for a ported sub is the sb 3000 be good for home theater
SB-3000 good of movies, great for music. I have two.
I'm not really clear after seeing this review when the SB-3000 is good vs when someone really should step up to the PB-3000. Any advise on this? E.g. Room sizes over X size should go ported, if you listen to a lot of music you should go sealed, etc?
sealed is great for music. you can listen to music ported too. its not sloppy
Would you say 2 pb3000 will give you more tactile bass or 1 pb16ultra? I currently own 1 pb3000 and wanted a little more umph. Was going to either buy another pb3000 or return the current one I have and get a pb16ultra. Thanks!
get the 16. youll be happy you did
What about the sb4000 vs the sb3000?
No dice. I sent that sb-4000 back last year. Maybe I can check out new subs to demo for you guys
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude as you have had both subs,
in your opinion how close does the sb3000 come to the sb4000?
The 3000 hits like a 18-wheeler,. I would say you arent missing much my going with the 3000. Transience is vastly improved over the 4000 series and the 4000 was great already. Im really liking the 3000s right now.
I LUUUUUUVE MY MONITOR AUDIO BRONZE SUBBWOOFER,IN MY BEDROOM AS PART OFF A 7,1 4KUHD SURROUND SOUND,WATCHED GEOSTORM IN BLUE RAY AND THE MONITOR SUBBWOOFER WAS DEEP CLEAN AND PURE BLISSFULL BASS.💪💪😉✌👌
Please do a monolith 15 review
i just got it wednesday. should be up soon :)
Couldn’t pass up on a sub-3000 used for 800 and marketplace sb-2000 for 200. Just ordered two sets of iso feet and wireless kit
I like how you faded in . in the beginning
hahahaha. I didnt think anyone would notice
I bet Seinfeld sounds amazing on that setup.
Hey which subwoofer do u recommend svs PB-1000 vs klipsch spl 12 120?
Pb1000
Im selling my SB16.
Now i dont know which i should take.. SB2000 or SB3000 I had the 2000 before the SB16 and had no Problems but wanted the App Control.
Dont know how the Amps are
If i remember correct they may be adding something to the older subs for app control later on in the year, but the 3000 is plenty. It gives you the slam when you need it and the quiet notes for music too.
The SB2000 and SB3000 actually sound very similar. They are both fantastic subs; you won't go wrong with either one.
@@classicgalactica5879 So, if I don't need that much power, I can go for 2000 without sound quality loss?
You should do a SB-3000 vs PB-3000 with plugged ports.
Sealed subwoofers are always preferred, if you focus on music performance.
If PB-3000 performs well in both plugged/unplugged, it makes more sense in a dual purpose home theater.
Missed opportunity. I already sent them back. I didnt a plugged and ported on the 3000 vs 4000 though th-cam.com/video/Fz8zdqi2gkU/w-d-xo.html
SB 3000 + DSPeaker anti mode = perfection
Really?
Can you review bksound monolith sub? Its a Company from Uk. Would be cool .
ask them to send me some
They sound incredible. Now I have to talk the wife to let me get one or two.
Good luck brother. If you get the green light let me know. I can send you links to buy. It really help out
Let you? I don't get what you mean, you are the man of the relationship aren't you?
@@randysalsman6992 Bet his house is Pink lol, I never understood that wife acceptance factor thing. Should have married someone else. My wife loves jamming out to my system. Told my wife I just ordered 2 svspb3000's she said cool are they louder? My response, oh yeah.
These subs kickass and chew gum. Bass in ya face..hey man i watch all your videos did you choose a winner for the klipsch sub..
Ill keep you in mind my man
@@ThatHomeTheaterDude Thanks my man would really appreciate it. I Really dig your setup and your videos are ace man i watch them all. You got the ultimate batchelor pad love it..
Pb 3000 or 2 sb 200? Rooms18x13x9
The 4000 does sound different than the 3000. The differences are hard to explane, it appears to be a difference in sound quality, yet both play well. Power and size plus build difference just make a sound difference.
It looks like the cone on the sealed cabinet is moving a LOT less than the ported cabinets. 👀
Hermosas torres y subwoofer
Isn't the pb-3000 bottoming out ?
Also holy shit, how can the pb-16-ultra has soo much port noise ?
I didnt notice it bottoming out. It has alot of x max. The microphone picks up different things than we hear though. Just on that scene the 16 has a fair amount of port noise. The 3000 had minimal and the 4000 was more towards the 3000 than 16
does someone has any measurements to compare against the SB2000?