I'm originally from the Detroit area! Big Detroit City FC fan, but I have to say Go Blue, sorry haha. Moved to Rockford a few years ago when I married my wife. Thank you, glad to hear you enjoy the videos!
Not only because of his trickster nature, it is said that Veles was also concerned about the world of the dead having no light and he thus borrowed Yarilo to grow grass and meadows in the Nav, since he's a god of animals and nature.
The legend I was always told was that Perun stole Volos’s wife so Volos stole Perun’s cattle as hostages (didn’t work) then his wife as a hostage (didn’t work) and his son as a hostage (didn’t work) but when Perun’s wife had Volos’s child who caused an eternal winter Perun allowed Volos’s wife to bring her down to the Nav each year so Volos could see them both
Alternatively it was all about water. Veles was not only god of the underground and forests but also water. Slavs must have noticed that water tends to go up if it gets warm (morning mists dissipating, steam, evaporation) and when rain or storms happened, Veles was claiming what was his. Alternatively Yarilo was seen as their son by both gods and they had him with Morana/Zhiva who could have been same being with 2 manifestations depending on in which realm was Yarilo currently in. If he was in Perun's realm, she was happy and lively and life was blooming and if he was with Veles she was sad and cold and winter came and she couldn't see him (because either Perun or Devana wouldn't allow it... cuz you know spicy family dynamic between a woman, her ex-lover, her husband AND her daughter who is also married to her ex-lover and step mom to her half brother).
Its not that the West slavs or south slavs or east slavs worshipped different gods or anything like that, rather each tribe would favour a specific God so like you said for some reason "Minor" god Mokosh was mostly worshipped in the east. That is simply not true Mokosh was worshipped by everyone(all tribes) shes part of our rituals, and celebrations and she is a goddess, not what you called a "minor" god. That includes all of the gods, deities, demons, spirits etc etc. Difference just is that some tribes favoured some gods so that became their so to call "main god" so some tribes favoured Weles/Veles while others Favoured Perun or even both, Mokosh including all gods were a big part of our faith so its not true to say that specific region like east slavs worshipped only Mokosh many tribes there just favoured her but that doesn't mean they didn't worship other gods like perun, svarog or dadzbog A pantheon of the slavic god exists and its hierarchy, it is known about. I recommend to check out Slavic Affairs his video about slavic mythology or our pagan religion "Rodnovery" or in polish Rodzimowiara
Cool video! As a Pole I'm used to different accentation of the Perun's name. In Poland it is spelled pErun instead od perUn as You did in the video. Greetings from Poland and keep up good work! Much respect :)
Perun should be pronounced with the stress or accent on the first syllable. PEH-rune. The r is not like the English “R”. It’s a short rolled R. Very similar to the Spanish one, which sounds more like a soft “d” than an R. If you can’t roll your rr’s, I suggest faking it with a d that is made with a soft touch of the tongue to the palate not a hard, heavy D.
Not real familiar with this region but curious....is it possible the different regions focused on different dieties because of the geography or weather? For instance, storms & thunder are most places, so I would expect a myth about this phenomenon.
Likely, yes. Demons in particular. The Ala/chala is a demon that is most prominent among South Slavs because of some of the storms the Balkans got from the sea that don't happen in Russia as often. Pagan religions were impacted by their environment, so of course that makes sense!
Yey as a Slovakian pegan your I say that your videos are good, even as a worshipers of the Veles XD But hey we must worship every god in order to not get their
Perun vs Veles wasn't order vs chaos (Veles was actually also a god of wisdom). Perun vs Zmaj (or zmey - dragon) was order vs chaos (like Amon Ra vs Apophis).
While, yes, he is typically considered the son of one of them, Perun was considered the highest god by many tribes. From the scattered tales, it seems like there was a kind of inheritance, where Perun took up the supreme sky figure that Svarog had once held, and Svarog became more of a remote god. Of course, there were many tribes and each had slightly different beliefs.
Why I don't see any video about Kołowrat(Swarzyca/Kolovrat)? (maybe I missed) This is an important sacred symbol for the Slavs. Check the channel "Slavic Affairs" there you will find basic information. Good work Brendan and greetings from Poland ❃
Lovely! This is Viking herritage! Dala och Hälsinge kultur i Sverige också pre Roman Karelia! Qievan, Kvenland slav viking kult. Actually also the original christians. The mythical stories are symbolic astronomical stories. The highest god is one and the same in all and everything. Peace and blessings
Give a credit to you for this interest meanwhile you could be relative’s to Latin and Vikings. You have a good topic and interest tho . Big up keep on going
So I am not sure where you are getting the idea that it's the oldest god who is the ruler but... No. It's way more complicated. The sky-father is usually the youngest of three brothers. It's more complicated. Even though today we tend to think of monolithic pantheons all pantheons were localized. Also in modern thinking the sky father is the good guy and the underworld God is the bad guy. Not true. Gods were morally complex.
In Rijeka, Croatia, there is a mountain and top of it is called "Perunov vrh"
In Slovene, the iris flower is called "perunika". I heard that it's because of its shape, which resembles the thunder symbol,
Same in Serbia
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perun also lives on mt triglav, the highest mountain of Slovenia
Im from N Muskegon...lived in Lansing & Detroit. MSU grad, Noticed your MI stuff in background. Love this subject, keep going brother!!!
I'm originally from the Detroit area! Big Detroit City FC fan, but I have to say Go Blue, sorry haha. Moved to Rockford a few years ago when I married my wife.
Thank you, glad to hear you enjoy the videos!
Can't believe you don't have more subs. Great work on the video! :))
So Veles unlike Loki, just messes with Perun for good fun.
Not only because of his trickster nature, it is said that Veles was also concerned about the world of the dead having no light and he thus borrowed Yarilo to grow grass and meadows in the Nav, since he's a god of animals and nature.
The legend I was always told was that Perun stole Volos’s wife so Volos stole Perun’s cattle as hostages (didn’t work) then his wife as a hostage (didn’t work) and his son as a hostage (didn’t work) but when Perun’s wife had Volos’s child who caused an eternal winter Perun allowed Volos’s wife to bring her down to the Nav each year so Volos could see them both
Slovenia has a hero like rambo known as Martin krpan he killed a giant with a bat and caries around his horse as a flex basicaly rambo
Alternatively it was all about water. Veles was not only god of the underground and forests but also water. Slavs must have noticed that water tends to go up if it gets warm (morning mists dissipating, steam, evaporation) and when rain or storms happened, Veles was claiming what was his.
Alternatively Yarilo was seen as their son by both gods and they had him with Morana/Zhiva who could have been same being with 2 manifestations depending on in which realm was Yarilo currently in. If he was in Perun's realm, she was happy and lively and life was blooming and if he was with Veles she was sad and cold and winter came and she couldn't see him (because either Perun or Devana wouldn't allow it... cuz you know spicy family dynamic between a woman, her ex-lover, her husband AND her daughter who is also married to her ex-lover and step mom to her half brother).
Perun is perundar/Purandar/Indra Light and Thunder God.
It's parjanya
@@Ficus-religiosa It's Indra Light and Thunder God brother.Indra another is PURANder/PERUNder.
@@hoslabara2703 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parjanya
Its not that the West slavs or south slavs or east slavs worshipped different gods or anything like that, rather each tribe would favour a specific God so like you said for some reason "Minor" god Mokosh was mostly worshipped in the east. That is simply not true Mokosh was worshipped by everyone(all tribes) shes part of our rituals, and celebrations and she is a goddess, not what you called a "minor" god. That includes all of the gods, deities, demons, spirits etc etc. Difference just is that some tribes favoured some gods so that became their so to call "main god" so some tribes favoured Weles/Veles while others Favoured Perun or even both, Mokosh including all gods were a big part of our faith so its not true to say that specific region like east slavs worshipped only Mokosh many tribes there just favoured her but that doesn't mean they didn't worship other gods like perun, svarog or dadzbog
A pantheon of the slavic god exists and its hierarchy, it is known about. I recommend to check out Slavic Affairs his video about slavic mythology or our pagan religion "Rodnovery" or in polish Rodzimowiara
Great video, thanks for this info!
I am loving this channel. I want to learn about Slavic folklore.
Per-un... Son of perun = person. Light of perun = persun... Be a good perun son.... Things will work out if youre a good person
Cool video! As a Pole I'm used to different accentation of the Perun's name. In Poland it is spelled pErun instead od perUn as You did in the video.
Greetings from Poland and keep up good work! Much respect :)
Good to know! I tend to try to get the Polish style but my American-ness sometimes takes over.
@@brendannobleauthor3251 in this case you went for eastern way of saying Perun
@@brendannobleauthor3251 in croatian it would be 'pear-un", the "un" part not like "uhn", just un.
Russians put accent on U in Perun's name.
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Man I just discovered your channel, great work, keep it up
Thank you!
Perun should be pronounced with the stress or accent on the first syllable. PEH-rune. The r is not like the English “R”. It’s a short rolled R. Very similar to the Spanish one, which sounds more like a soft “d” than an R. If you can’t roll your rr’s, I suggest faking it with a d that is made with a soft touch of the tongue to the palate not a hard, heavy D.
The name for this single "roll" is a tap :)
And stressing the second syllable is fine, it's how the people in the East pronounce it.
Not real familiar with this region but curious....is it possible the different regions focused on different dieties because of the geography or weather? For instance, storms & thunder are most places, so I would expect a myth about this phenomenon.
Likely, yes. Demons in particular. The Ala/chala is a demon that is most prominent among South Slavs because of some of the storms the Balkans got from the sea that don't happen in Russia as often. Pagan religions were impacted by their environment, so of course that makes sense!
Some similar stories about Finn McCool from scot irish mythology...
Fenian & Ossian myths.
Where do you get your sources? I'm asking, because I'm doing an essay on Perun
Yey as a Slovakian pegan your I say that your videos are good, even as a worshipers of the Veles XD But hey we must worship every god in order to not get their
Perun or st Ilija ,you need to resarch much more about Serbs...
We call him as indra
Perun vs Veles wasn't order vs chaos (Veles was actually also a god of wisdom). Perun vs Zmaj (or zmey - dragon) was order vs chaos (like Amon Ra vs Apophis).
As a Bulgarian, i learned in School that Perun was originally a Bulgarian god. And that's where we take the name of a mountain called "Pirin"
No...wrong.Perun is son of Svarog or Rod hence one of them is the top god.....dwpending on the country which interpritates the pantheon
While, yes, he is typically considered the son of one of them, Perun was considered the highest god by many tribes. From the scattered tales, it seems like there was a kind of inheritance, where Perun took up the supreme sky figure that Svarog had once held, and Svarog became more of a remote god. Of course, there were many tribes and each had slightly different beliefs.
You forgot to mention
god Kresnik, Slovenian version of the god Perun. (Same-same, but different. But still same.)
soo baisicly perun is the same thing as odin and zeus but slavic verison...wow
Dobro koliko je tebi godina i gdje ti zivis da to ne znas!?
@@zagrepcanin82 izvini sto sam pravoslavni srbin pa nisam upucen u mnogoboštvo
@@Ronins_Legacy isprika prihvacena
@@Ronins_Legacy i grci su pravoslavci pa znaju sve svoje bogove iz stare vere
Why I don't see any video about Kołowrat(Swarzyca/Kolovrat)? (maybe I missed) This is an important sacred symbol for the Slavs. Check the channel "Slavic Affairs" there you will find basic information. Good work Brendan and greetings from Poland ❃
Zvar in slovak means weld. Another word "svár" means contradiction.
SLOVANSKAUNIA.!
Lovely! This is Viking herritage! Dala och Hälsinge kultur i Sverige också pre Roman Karelia! Qievan, Kvenland slav viking kult. Actually also the original christians. The mythical stories are symbolic astronomical stories. The highest god is one and the same in all and everything. Peace and blessings
Well, for the Vikings this would be Thor. Slavic and Norse mythologies have a lot of overlap though in their stories.
proto-indoeuropean religions
Give a credit to you for this interest meanwhile you could be relative’s to Latin and Vikings. You have a good topic and interest tho
. Big up keep on going
So I am not sure where you are getting the idea that it's the oldest god who is the ruler but... No. It's way more complicated. The sky-father is usually the youngest of three brothers. It's more complicated. Even though today we tend to think of monolithic pantheons all pantheons were localized.
Also in modern thinking the sky father is the good guy and the underworld God is the bad guy. Not true. Gods were morally complex.
They used underground Gods when signing agreements as duke Vladimir did with Ottoman empire like I swear on this God
Great narrator but less views sadening one
I am loving this channel. I want to learn about Slavic folklore.