Yeah, so I have had mine for about a year now. I am 6 foot 5, so I wish the foot plates were wider and deeper, the machine is rather narrow so it is tough getting in and out of especially with the safety spotter and of course because of the rods. The handles that release the weight need to be longer at the top and bottom. I can definitely go below parallel, the machine is very sturdy, it can hold a lot of weight, it is smooth, it has a lot of adjustment options, I use it every week and still feels as good as when I first put it together. None of these negatives matter if you are less than 6 feet tall. But I still love it and actually have solved a lot of my issues by mainly doing front squats on it.
Thanks for the detailed comment. If I had room in my current setup, I’d have this one instead of the compact leg press. Fun fact- the previous version had wheels so you could move it around. That blew my mind that a piece of equipment this big could be moved on wheels.
Is this home-gym grade leg press? I'm asking because when the dude gets up talking about handle and how nice it is at 5:38 ish, it appears it bends a slight bit, making it feel less than sturdy as I expected for a solid pro gym equipment. I'm not trying to point flaws, but as someone interested, I noticed that as a potential issue as I too - at 6'8 height - feel it is a feature I often appreciate but not sure how much I could rely on it given what I just watched. On another entirely-separate note, what's the deal the height rated for this?
I just got mine, and I am very impressed! Thank you so much for recommendations! The stopper is a bit high for me ( I am 5’2) , so I didn’t install it, and raising the bottom foot base also helped. I was not expecting how smooth it runs, and it only cost me and my husband 3 hours to put it together👍🏻
Hey Cici, so the stopper is removable then? I took a peak at the online manual and it's shown as a single piece with the crossmember that the seat attaches to. Seen so many complaints about range of motion issues due to the stopper... it's the only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger on it. Thanks!
@@Paintrain8765 If you want to remove the stoper, you need to cut the stoper off before you install it. As a leg press, it works amazing, as a squat machine you do need to work around it. Working out at different gyms, most machines are not designed perfect for everyone, and so we all learned to deal with it. After a few weeks of using this machine, I feel it fits me better and better.
@@Paintrain8765 and if you are looking to mainly use it as a leg press machine, it works great, but if you are going to use it mainly as a squat machine, there may be better options out there. The handles are also a little too short for me when I using it for squats and leg press , so I tied some bands to them.
I can’t find a single video that shows the full range of motion. I’ve been wanting one for over a month but not taking a chance if I can’t get good rom
That stopper is considered a major design flaw...especially for anybody under 5'10". It should allow for a deep hack squat for any sized person....bummer
Heavily considering a LPHS as my next addition to my garage gym. Narrowed down the Force USA and Bodycraft F660. Force USA has a few options that the F660 doesn’t (plate storage, springs, band pegs to name a few). Force USA is a few hundred bucks cheaper, uses rollers opposed to F660 which uses linear bearings. The only thing I’m struggling with is the footprint. 66 wide/94 long, F660 is 30/73. Any advice on comparing the 2?
Funny, I was sooooo close to pulling the trigger on the bodycraft since it was available from a local store that sells all types of workout equipment. I ended up buying a Peloton instead. I realized that when leg day came, I wasn’t as energized as my upper body workouts earlier in the week and would end up skipping. As a former sprinter, my legs are not small, I just needed something to get them toned and into better shape. The space was a major deal with my overall decision.
Hi there are you able to tell me how much the sled weighs please. I have the model before this one that only has a place for the weights under the sled. Usually the unweighted sled weighs approx 53kgs, however this model might be lighter. Your advice appreciated please Thanks Tania (NZ)
Wanted to purchase this back in August when it was $1,999 but waited too long and it sold out. The price went up to $2,299 but it’s finally back in stock so I pulled the trigger and bought one today… yes I used your link and saved money, greatly appreciated! Once I receive it and get it assembled I’ll decide what to do with the safety stopper. I’m 5’8” and my wife is 5’4” so hopefully we can put it all the way down and be able to squat deep. Thanks again for making the video it did help in our purchase decision.
Hey Alexander, Congrats on getting the combo and thanks for using the link. If anyone has the room for this product, they should definitely get it. There’s no con to it outside of the large footprint. Keep me updated on how it’s working for you.
Took about 7 hours too put together. Directions were ok. Some spots were tricky and you really had to pay attention to the diagram as there and no written directions. Only two spots required the fiancé to come down and hold pieces while they were bolted into place. Looks like it’s a high quality machine. Rollers work smoothly. Just waiting on weight sets to restock!!
Yes I can imagine the assembly time can be quite involved. I’ll pass the feedback along to Force USA to try and make the instructions more detailed. Please consider using STEVIE5 at checkout when you buy the weights. Thanks.
Stevie Richards I’ll try it Stevie thanks. Not sure if they will apply it or not since they already give me a veteran / law enforcement discount but we’ll see!!
Hi Stevie. Thank you for your videos, they are super useful! I've been saving for an all-in-one trainer and I have a question for you. I've been thinking about the G20 so as to "cry once" and never again, however, will the G20 give me a good leg workout by itself? I just had a thought. What if I was to get the G9 and the leg press hack squat combo? Those two end up somewhere being the same price as the G20 but I'll have a dedicated leg machine. What are your thoughts on that scenario? Space is not a problem for me. Is it overkill to get the G20 and the leg combo? That may be way too expensive. I appreciate your feedback. Thank you sir!
Hey Carlos, That’s a great question. Here are the major differences, besides price, between the G9 and G20. - G20 has 2 weight stacks Huel G9 is center plated loaded. -G20 has commercial attachments Versa Pad for hip thrusts and other movements. -G20 is designed for multiple people to be working out at once. The G9’s center loaded plates really only allow one person at a time to use the cable system. I assume since you want the leg press/hack squat combo that you already own some plates. If you do, then you can load up the G9 with those plates. However, you’re limited by the length of the plate holders where the G20 has large weight stacks. Just a thing to consider. If doing heavy leg workouts are part of your regimen, or even if not, the leg press/hack squat combo is a great piece of equipment. If I had the space, it would be a part of my gym no matter what all in one trainer I owned. Hope this helps to at least help you make a fully informed decision. If you do decide to purchase, please use my link: www.forceusa.com/stevie Keep me updated on what you choose and how everything is working.
@@StevieRichardsFitness Oh, that's right. I hadn't considered the weight limitation for a plate only all-in-one. Hmm. I do like the weight stacks. So it's better to go with the G20 then. I thought about the G12. I like the 1:1 ratio. The difference now between those two is $499. Is the G20 worth it for an extra $500 as opposed to the G12? Thanks!
I believe the commercial attachments, Versa Pad, larger weight stacks and even the option for the lat pulldown upgrade make the G20 worth that extra $500. The G12 is still great, but the G20 is literally the definition of buy once, cry once.
I believe you’ll be good with it. The range, to me, seems like it would accommodate different heights. I’ve seen their official TH-cam channel show a woman that didn’t look too tall and she was able to squat deep. If you do order, please use the code STEVIE5 at checkout to save money. I know I said that in the last comment. Just wanted to remind you. 😬 Thanks.
I am considering buying this machine, I noticed that the adjustable safety post sticks up kind of high, and I am 5’2” , can I still have full range of motion for my squad?
I believe you’ll be good. My wife is 5’2” and can squat deep without hitting the safeties. If you do decide to purchase, please use my affiliate link to save some money- bit.ly/3mBNGoW
@@StevieRichardsFitness I did just order it and when I choose Apple Pay it finished the deal without go to the second page for your discount code . But I will email them see if I can add it.
Daniel Chapa Good question. I’m 5’8” with a 30” inseam , and I hear a lot of machines will not let us squat below parallel. Wish I could find more used reviews ,as this looks like a great machine
MajorTendonitis just had one arrive at our Fire Station. I had to completely remove the safety stopper and raise the foot platform to the highest setting in the Hack Squat position. I’m able to get parallel but if I try to go below, I end up hitting the stopper sleeve.
Please check with support. I’m not familiar with shipping there and maybe they can arrange that. Please remember to use my link: www.forceusa.com/stevie
Just ordered it and used your link. Thanks for the demo and info about your wife's height. My wife is a whopping 5'! Hoping this will work for her too.
Hey Kyle, Thanks for watching the video and using the link. I really appreciate both. Keep me updated on how the combo is working for you and your wife.
This HackSquat is useless. The stopper at its lowest is in the way. Its not been thought about. It works great as a leg press, but for a HackSquat its un usable for most. Even in this video he demonstrates having to have his feet off of the platform. I wouldn't buy this. Def try before you buy!! This guy is tall and he is bottoming out and isnt hitting sufficient depth.
I agree.. BUT I was able to modify it and solve the problem with ease. Just cut the tube the stop slides into and then cut the stop itself. So I still have the rubber bumper there but it is much lower allowing me to squat bellow parallel without any interference. I will say with the new additional ROM I found my plates would hit the safety handles at the bottom of the squat. So to resolve that I just cut some 2.5in spacers out of 2in PVC and put them on the weight horns and that gives the plates enough clearance now. It is frustrating having to take a grinder to a brand new piece of equipment but for the price and overall quality of it...I am happy with the purchase.
Yeah, so I have had mine for about a year now. I am 6 foot 5, so I wish the foot plates were wider and deeper, the machine is rather narrow so it is tough getting in and out of especially with the safety spotter and of course because of the rods. The handles that release the weight need to be longer at the top and bottom. I can definitely go below parallel, the machine is very sturdy, it can hold a lot of weight, it is smooth, it has a lot of adjustment options, I use it every week and still feels as good as when I first put it together. None of these negatives matter if you are less than 6 feet tall. But I still love it and actually have solved a lot of my issues by mainly doing front squats on it.
Thanks for the detailed comment.
If I had room in my current setup, I’d have this one instead of the compact leg press.
Fun fact- the previous version had wheels so you could move it around. That blew my mind that a piece of equipment this big could be moved on wheels.
I can't get full range of motion on the hack squat, that's y u left the peg in.
Is this home-gym grade leg press? I'm asking because when the dude gets up talking about handle and how nice it is at 5:38 ish, it appears it bends a slight bit, making it feel less than sturdy as I expected for a solid pro gym equipment. I'm not trying to point flaws, but as someone interested, I noticed that as a potential issue as I too - at 6'8 height - feel it is a feature I often appreciate but not sure how much I could rely on it given what I just watched. On another entirely-separate note, what's the deal the height rated for this?
I just got mine, and I am very impressed! Thank you so much for recommendations! The stopper is a bit high for me ( I am 5’2) , so I didn’t install it, and raising the bottom foot base also helped. I was not expecting how smooth it runs, and it only cost me and my husband 3 hours to put it together👍🏻
That’s great to hear. If we had the space, we’d definitely have this piece of equipment.
Hey Cici, so the stopper is removable then? I took a peak at the online manual and it's shown as a single piece with the crossmember that the seat attaches to. Seen so many complaints about range of motion issues due to the stopper... it's the only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger on it. Thanks!
@@Paintrain8765 If you want to remove the stoper, you need to cut the stoper off before you install it. As a leg press, it works amazing, as a squat machine you do need to work around it. Working out at different gyms, most machines are not designed perfect for everyone, and so we all learned to deal with it. After a few weeks of using this machine, I feel it fits me better and better.
@@Paintrain8765 and if you are looking to mainly use it as a leg press machine, it works great, but if you are going to use it mainly as a squat machine, there may be better options out there. The handles are also a little too short for me when I using it for squats and leg press , so I tied some bands to them.
@@cici0695 Ah gotcha thats a bit of a bummer, but glad to hear that it's fitting you better over time. Appreciate the response :)
I feel like the foot space should be wider so people can do wider stance squats.
I can’t find a single video that shows the full range of motion. I’ve been wanting one for over a month but not taking a chance if I can’t get good rom
Awesome I've it in my gym and didnt knw how to use hack squat n calves, thanks for making this video
That stopper is considered a major design flaw...especially for anybody under 5'10". It should allow for a deep hack squat for any sized person....bummer
I cut off the safety stopper at the bottom and now I can do a full squat on my hack squat
Heavily considering a LPHS as my next addition to my garage gym. Narrowed down the Force USA and Bodycraft F660. Force USA has a few options that the F660 doesn’t (plate storage, springs, band pegs to name a few). Force USA is a few hundred bucks cheaper, uses rollers opposed to F660 which uses linear bearings. The only thing I’m struggling with is the footprint. 66 wide/94 long, F660 is 30/73. Any advice on comparing the 2?
C M
Same here
Makes 3 of us!! I’m guessing the 66inches wife is at the top with the plate holders. I’m hoping anyway. I have the same dimension concerns
Funny, I was sooooo close to pulling the trigger on the bodycraft since it was available from a local store that sells all types of workout equipment. I ended up buying a Peloton instead. I realized that when leg day came, I wasn’t as energized as my upper body workouts earlier in the week and would end up skipping. As a former sprinter, my legs are not small, I just needed something to get them toned and into better shape. The space was a major deal with my overall decision.
Jeff Chimienti I just pulled the trigger a few hours ago on the Force USA!!
Hi there are you able to tell me how much the sled weighs please. I have the model before this one that only has a place for the weights under the sled. Usually the unweighted sled weighs approx 53kgs, however this model might be lighter. Your advice appreciated please Thanks Tania (NZ)
Awesome review , Im sold.
Great! I moving into new home next month and this along with G3 first on my list
My hacksquat moves side to side whats wrong
Great review, noticed this hack squat it not meant for tall people. Foot plate is too small
Wanted to purchase this back in August when it was $1,999 but waited too long and it sold out. The price went up to $2,299 but it’s finally back in stock so I pulled the trigger and bought one today… yes I used your link and saved money, greatly appreciated! Once I receive it and get it assembled I’ll decide what to do with the safety stopper. I’m 5’8” and my wife is 5’4” so hopefully we can put it all the way down and be able to squat deep. Thanks again for making the video it did help in our purchase decision.
Hey Alexander,
Congrats on getting the combo and thanks for using the link.
If anyone has the room for this product, they should definitely get it. There’s no con to it outside of the large footprint.
Keep me updated on how it’s working for you.
How are you two getting on with that stopper? I'm 5-9 and the wife is 5-3 so it is a bit of a concern with her.
Great review Stevie!
Took about 7 hours too put together. Directions were ok. Some spots were tricky and you really had to pay attention to the diagram as there and no written directions. Only two spots required the fiancé to come down and hold pieces while they were bolted into place. Looks like it’s a high quality machine. Rollers work smoothly. Just waiting on weight sets to restock!!
Yes I can imagine the assembly time can be quite involved.
I’ll pass the feedback along to Force USA to try and make the instructions more detailed.
Please consider using STEVIE5 at checkout when you buy the weights. Thanks.
Stevie Richards I’ll try it Stevie thanks. Not sure if they will apply it or not since they already give me a veteran / law enforcement discount but we’ll see!!
Does it use linear bearings or rollers on the carriage?
Rollers.
Wonder what’s better, roller or linear bearings which is what the Bodycraft F660 has
Is there suppose to be a disc when using your link? Because it doesn’t appear for me
Yes there is. It should have a graphic that pops up recognizing that you used the link and discount is applied.
Bodycraft has bearing system, will last forever. 2 yrs warranty on force usa rollers.
Hi Stevie. Thank you for your videos, they are super useful! I've been saving for an all-in-one trainer and I have a question for you. I've been thinking about the G20 so as to "cry once" and never again, however, will the G20 give me a good leg workout by itself? I just had a thought. What if I was to get the G9 and the leg press hack squat combo? Those two end up somewhere being the same price as the G20 but I'll have a dedicated leg machine. What are your thoughts on that scenario? Space is not a problem for me. Is it overkill to get the G20 and the leg combo? That may be way too expensive. I appreciate your feedback. Thank you sir!
Hey Carlos,
That’s a great question.
Here are the major differences, besides price, between the G9 and G20.
- G20 has 2 weight stacks Huel G9 is center plated loaded.
-G20 has commercial attachments Versa Pad for hip thrusts and other movements.
-G20 is designed for multiple people to be working out at once. The G9’s center loaded plates really only allow one person at a time to use the cable system.
I assume since you want the leg press/hack squat combo that you already own some plates. If you do, then you can load up the G9 with those plates. However, you’re limited by the length of the plate holders where the G20 has large weight stacks. Just a thing to consider.
If doing heavy leg workouts are part of your regimen, or even if not, the leg press/hack squat combo is a great piece of equipment. If I had the space, it would be a part of my gym no matter what all in one trainer I owned.
Hope this helps to at least help you make a fully informed decision.
If you do decide to purchase, please use my link:
www.forceusa.com/stevie
Keep me updated on what you choose and how everything is working.
@@StevieRichardsFitness Oh, that's right. I hadn't considered the weight limitation for a plate only all-in-one. Hmm. I do like the weight stacks. So it's better to go with the G20 then. I thought about the G12. I like the 1:1 ratio. The difference now between those two is $499. Is the G20 worth it for an extra $500 as opposed to the G12? Thanks!
I believe the commercial attachments, Versa Pad, larger weight stacks and even the option for the lat pulldown upgrade make the G20 worth that extra $500.
The G12 is still great, but the G20 is literally the definition of buy once, cry once.
Thanks Steve. I’m 5’7”. Will I be able to get full rom on the hack portion? I like the safety portion too
I believe you’ll be good with it. The range, to me, seems like it would accommodate different heights. I’ve seen their official TH-cam channel show a woman that didn’t look too tall and she was able to squat deep.
If you do order, please use the code STEVIE5 at checkout to save money.
I know I said that in the last comment. Just wanted to remind you. 😬
Thanks.
@@StevieRichardsFitness I wish I seen this before I made my purchase for the code
Great , I will get this one home after coronavirus pandemic .
You’ll love it.
Please remember to use the code STEVIE5 at checkout to save some money.
Anywhere I can purchase this ?
You can visit www.forceusa.com/stevie and save some money. You can signup to be notified when it’s available for purchase.
Where i can buy this?
www.forceusa.com/stevie
@@StevieRichardsFitness out of stock lol I really want my leg get big
Greatful for the positive vibes
How much weight can you load on there? Only 2 points for loading plates?
The weight rating is 1000 pounds and the machine has band pegs for variable resistance as well.
@@StevieRichardsFitness ye that’s plenty
It’s a pretty sweet piece of equipment.
If you do decide to get the combo or anything else off the site, please use my link:
www.forceusa.com/stevie
@@StevieRichardsFitness I buy the stuff from a local importer as I live in South Africa. Thanks for everything you do.
I am considering buying this machine, I noticed that the adjustable safety post sticks up kind of high, and I am 5’2” , can I still have full range of motion for my squad?
I believe you’ll be good. My wife is 5’2” and can squat deep without hitting the safeties.
If you do decide to purchase, please use my affiliate link to save some money-
bit.ly/3mBNGoW
@@StevieRichardsFitness great thanks for your help!
@@StevieRichardsFitness I did just order it and when I choose Apple Pay it finished the deal without go to the second page for your discount code . But I will email them see if I can add it.
Thank you. Keep me updated on how it’s working for you.
look like Steve Richard from wwe?
Stevie, how tall are you? I am 6' 2". interested to ensure the machine will fit my height well.
I’m 6’2” and had no issues with it.
Please remember to use the code STEVIE5 if you decide to order it. Thanks.
@@StevieRichardsFitness Awesome, thank you!
Does that hack squat allow you to go below parallel? I'm 5'7" and curious if that safety stopper will get in the way.
Daniel Chapa
Good question. I’m 5’8” with a 30” inseam , and I hear a lot of machines will not let us squat below parallel. Wish I could find more used reviews ,as this looks like a great machine
MajorTendonitis just had one arrive at our Fire Station. I had to completely remove the safety stopper and raise the foot platform to the highest setting in the Hack Squat position. I’m able to get parallel but if I try to go below, I end up hitting the stopper sleeve.
@@danielchapa3897
Darn that's unfortunate . Thank you for the response!
Don't insert the stopper and you can go as low as you like.
@@Anamica666 yeah I removed it completely but you still can bottom out on the housing. I can get to parallel without the stopper
The best hack squat leg press for homegym
If only they had a dealer in western Canada
I like to buy but didn’t ship into Hawaii
Please check with support. I’m not familiar with shipping there and maybe they can arrange that.
Please remember to use my link:
www.forceusa.com/stevie
Just ordered it and used your link. Thanks for the demo and info about your wife's height. My wife is a whopping 5'! Hoping this will work for her too.
Hey Kyle,
Thanks for watching the video and using the link. I really appreciate both.
Keep me updated on how the combo is working for you and your wife.
If only there was a dealership in western Canada
They do ship to Canada. You just have to contact Force USA support.
You can also use my code STEVIE5 when you call and save some money.
These machines are perfectly made for little people like myself.
The other guy needs a mic
Ronnie Coleman is like. Nah buddy.
This HackSquat is useless. The stopper at its lowest is in the way. Its not been thought about. It works great as a leg press, but for a HackSquat its un usable for most. Even in this video he demonstrates having to have his feet off of the platform. I wouldn't buy this. Def try before you buy!! This guy is tall and he is bottoming out and isnt hitting sufficient depth.
I agree.. BUT I was able to modify it and solve the problem with ease. Just cut the tube the stop slides into and then cut the stop itself. So I still have the rubber bumper there but it is much lower allowing me to squat bellow parallel without any interference. I will say with the new additional ROM I found my plates would hit the safety handles at the bottom of the squat. So to resolve that I just cut some 2.5in spacers out of 2in PVC and put them on the weight horns and that gives the plates enough clearance now. It is frustrating having to take a grinder to a brand new piece of equipment but for the price and overall quality of it...I am happy with the purchase.