Danke fürs hochladen. Das hast du wunderbar gemacht. Bisher habe ich nur englische Videos zu dem Thema gefunden. Es ist schön das ich diesmal alles verstehen konnte. 😉
Somehow I am not able to add a comment direction. I so much appreciate your skill and great passion for the subject. I learned a great deal. Thank you for posting.
I study fashion and our class has to make creative pieces inspired by different times of fashion. I have the Marie Antoinette era! This was a very informative and fun video to watch thanks!
I would love to be able to do this exact thing. I love period fashion, especially women's clothing of the 15th-19th centuries, and would love to make it and teach people about it in a practical sense like this, so I love watching these presentations. Your passion for what you talk about is very clear, even if I only understood very little of what was spoken (so thanks for the captions!) This was a really wonderful presentation!
You have some good information and beautiful clothing, but you seems to have some common misconceptions about 18th century fashion and how it works, especially the stays. As someone who wears 18th century fashion on a daily basis and dress myself in them on a daily basis, I can assure you it does not take hours to get ready, nor is the stays a sign of wealth at this point. In Britain and the American Colonies, stays would be provided even for the poor, albeit usually leather, but they were a necessity for support as well as fashion. Nor was it a sign you had a ladies maid (or enslaved waiting woman in many of the American Colonies at the time). Front lacing stays were available for an easier time if one did not have a maid, and even the back lacing stays are not impossible to get into on your own.
Yea I know, don't worry. That's what happens when you squeeze a very complicated topic into the time frame of half an hour and try to narrow complex themes down for tourists with no prior info. Things get lost or just foggy. I was specifically talking about fully boned, silk-covered backlacing stays with actual whalebone in them, but after holding the same speech 5 times in a row, things get kindof fuzzy. Reed-stuffed cheap leather stays for servants really isn't the same thing though, wouldn't you agree? Personally, if I was a servant and had to get up in the dark at 5.00 am, I'd ditch the backlacing but maybe that's just me ;)
It's been 2.5yrs since this was posted so I greatly hope you have learned much more on this subject. There is plenty of misinformation in this presentation; this is how people that don't dive in to find the information get wild misconceptions about historical clothing & customs. :( However, you are very good in general at giving these small group presentations. You are good at engaging the audience without slipping out of the presentation. You speak up & look at the audience as often as you can. Work on your knowledge & this could be an amazing presentation.
3 years, actually, feels more like 7 though. I did learn a lot in the meantime, thanks for your concern :) Is there anything in particular you find to be wrong or debatable? Some things seem to be a question of whose research you decide to follow, but I don't know what you're referring to specifically. A lot was based on Caroline Webers book because I had just read that at the time. I was quite unhappy with the way it came out in the end. I had to generalise a LOT because the goal was to get as many people as possible with no prior knowledge to stick around for as long as we could. There is a lot of room for misconceptions when things have to be watered down and made simple. I tried the academic approach once, with all the jargon and the references to research. People got bored and walked out.
This was very interesting and you can really see your enthusiasm for the subject - thank you very much for sharing :) I'm hoping to start making my own historical garments soon as I've always found it fascinating! I did always wonder at the eyelet stress on the stays from the over tightening that was supposed to have gone on... now I know the answer to that!
Most corset experts are pretty sure that there wasn't much tightening going on that went beyond 2 inches waist-reduction, so this wasp-waist-thing is pretty much a myth for all fashions before the mid-victorian age.
Ich bin für eine Hausarbeit (Kostümgeschichte) auf dieses Video gestoßen und fand es ganz wunderbar! Toll erzählt, die Zeit ist schnell verflogen beim Gucken. Vielen Dank!
Cool, worüber schreibst Du denn? :D Verlass Dich auf keinen Fall zu sehr auf mein Video von damals, das war absichtlich alles total schwammig und allgemein gehalten, weil wir die Zuschauer nicht verschrecken sollten XD
@@Goldkehlchen20 ach alles gut 🙈 schreibe über die Wandlung vom chemisenkleid zur Biedermeier-Mode. Wollte nur mal nach einer Verbildlichung schauen und da bin ich auf das Video gestoßen. Die Infos hole ich mir natürlich noch mehr über andere Quellen heran, aber war sehr interessant mal visuell zu sehen, was so getragen wurde. Auch woraus die kleidung gemacht wurde war sehr interessant für mich. Bin selber gelernte Schneiderin, da schaut man einfach mal gerne bei "echter" Kleidung vorbei statt Malereien anzuschauen aus der Zeit 👍🏻
@@kristinaanikonovaa Sorry ich hab immer das Bedürfnis, so kleine Disclaimer einzubauen. Viele Leute machen sich die Mühe eigener Recherche nicht und am Ende bin ich schuld, wenn wer was Falsches erzählt XD Mir hat bei dem Chemisenkleid und den Hintergründen dazu total 'Queen of Fashion' von Caroline Weber geholfen, kennst Du das? Für Empire/ Regency kann ich außerdem Regency Women's Dress von Cassidy Percoco empfehlen, da sind abgenommene Schnitte von echten Kleidern von 1800 bis 1827 drin. Die Legende dadrin hat toll den Wandel der Silhouette rübergebracht. Außer, Du kennst das schon, dann is auch wurscht :D
I love your videos! Thanks so much for sharing. I had been wondering about the underpinnings with the chemise/shepherdess style dresses. Now I know and see how to make them work for my figure. Do you have the patterns you used for the chemise dress and the english dress with the pretty floral print?
erst dachte ich ich halt keine halbe stunde durch aber du hast es richtig gut gelöst! Habs zwar über 3 Tage verteilt geguggt, aber bis zum ende. Sehr interessant und du warst echt fix mit an und aus ziehen, aber ich muss mich auch immer selbst einkleiden, vielleicht liegts daran xD
Ich hab viel zu schnell geredet, wir haben das die komplette Öffnungszeit alle volle Stunde durchgezogen bis kurz vor Mitternacht... nach ner Weile verschwimmt alles so ein bisschen. Aber ja, bei sich selbst ist das alles definitiv schwieriger. Hab zuhause auch niemanden, der mir hinten das Korsett zuschnürt etc, ich kann das also gut nachvollziehen :)
I have read in several sources that the tabs or tassets on the bottom of the stays are supposed to be for making sure the skirt waistbands do not slip down.
They certainly do have that effect as well. I recently made a pair of early short-stays that more or less kept the georgian shape but just ended at the waist and believe me, it gets very uncomfortable when the bones just pinch into the waist without the pressure being directed away from the body.
know the feeling, I have never ventured into georgian, which is what i'm researching now. I mainly do movie replica costumes (see my videos) mainly disney, which is mostly kind of victorian period with corsets and seperate bodices to the skirts, or gone with the wind. I went to a museum and resource centre in lecieser England 2 years ago an dby appointment you could look at actual hsitoricla garments. I got to see some 17th century early georgians stays and it was solid as a rock, it was like metal armour. but the historical lady there said the same thing as in my books, that the only reason for the tassets was to stop skirt waistbnads from slipping. But since when did men make anything back in history comfortable for woman, as men did all the cutting and making, woman weren't allowed. They were constantly being forced from decade to decade into some other kind of shape ot another, just becuase mankind could acehive it. Boning though does help with keeping your back straight, I notice a big difference when i'm wearing a corset, but yeh after a few hours in a dress as well and your not used to them, you startto think that's enough now. It's not like the old days when your would get used to wearing them from a very early age. Nice video though :)
Yea I'm aware of your work :) Sounds like a really cool opportunity to get to see historical garments up close like that. I've had enough to do with museum curators to take most of what they say with a grain of salt though. There are a lot of truisms floating around in historical research and the soft sciences. Usually one can name a variety of reasons why a certain shape is the way it is, but the reality is that it often just developed out of a previously existing shape and just happens to have a number of advantages, as in 'correlation does not equal causation'. From wearing those garments I know that the bumroll takes care of the skirt sticking out quite well, the tassets aren't actually required for it. Distributing the pressure and the weight of the gown evenly is a lot more important in that case, which is why I phrased it that way. As for those truisms: I'd not be so quick to blame uncomfortable clothing on the patriarchy, things usually aren't that simple. There are quite a few factors going into clothing and a male conspiracy for the opression of women usually isn't a factor. There is a pretty good blogpost about this subject by 'facts over feelings' on the whole Emma Watson not wearing a corset because of supposed feminism-issue that explains the subject pretty well, I can only recommend it :) I'm looking forward to you exploring the georgian time-period. Also, the stays aren't nearly as constricting as victorian corsets^^
Ich habe neulich eine ältere Dame getroffen, die noch mit dem Stock im Kleid, aber hinten und zudätzlich mit einem Querstock hinter dem Rücken und vor der Armbeuge zu einer guten Körperhaltung erzogen wurde. Die Frau hat heute noch eine unvergleichliche Haltung..
That's the Porcelain Museum Frankfurt. It's not directly in Frankfurt though, so that's a bit confusing for some. It's mainly about porcelain, hence the title :)
Hi, schön, dass es dir gefallen hat :) Ausgestellt werden die Kleider nicht, die sind ja nicht wirklich historisch. Vorträge in der Art mache ich leider nicht regelmäßig. Das war der erste Vortrag, den ich bisher zu diesem Thema gehalten habe, aber wenn sich die Gelegenheit ergibt, mach ich sowas in Zukunft öfter^^
Das wäre schön! Ich beschäftige mich auch mit dem Thema Historische Mode und bin über alles froh, was man so findet :) Auch wenn es nicht ganz historisch korrekt ist. Hast du eine Ausbildung in dem Bereich gemacht?
Also, wir haben 1780. Die Gründung der USA ist gerade 4 Jahre her. Die Engländer haben sich aus USA zurückgezogen (so aus der Erinnerung heraus). Baumwolle muss ein sehr teurer Importstoff gewesen sein und daher selten. Leinen aus dem einheimischen Flachs dagegen müsste billig gewesen sein. Mich wundert, dass auf dem Kontinent überhaupt Baumwolle zur Verfügung gestanden haben soll.
Oh ja das war super-teuer, so ein bedruckter Baumwollstoff konnte teurer sein als Seide. Atmungsaktiver war der auch noch und waschbar. Wenn's nach mir geht müsste man aber die Leinenproduktion in Deutschland wieder einführen, das ist tatsächlich ein tolles Material das Seide, Baumwolle und Synthetikfasern locker in die Tasche steckt. Wolle kommt auf den zweiten Platz :)
Another explanation (a more accurate one) for not wearing underpants it´s because it was very difficult to go to the toilet with them. Imagine lifting all of that skirts AND then having to push down your underpants. Those weren´t invented until victorian era, when women wore pettycoats with a stiff rounded border, that maked easier to lift the skirt.
Very true, although that isn't so much the consciously chosen reason back in those days but more of a centuries-old custom nobody bothered to change. Honestly, even today I'd say it's probably more comfortable not having to fiddle with several layers of pants and shirts, all tucked into one another, when going to a cramped restroom.
When crinolines came in, women HAD to wear something for modesty underneath. Hence the introduction of drawers. Open drawers, as you mentioned, are way easier under dresses and skirts. It wasn't until skirts shortened seriously around WWI that women started wearing a closed style of underwear exclusively.
Goldkehlchen20 Ein Film von Peter Greenaway, ein Tod in 13 Bildern oder Ein Film, der eigentlich ein Barockgemälde werden wollte. Die Kleider sind wunderbar, die männlichen wie die weiblichen.
Absolut sicher, es gibt kein einziges Stück mit Metallösen aus dem Zeitraum. Manchmal hat man wie so kleine Metallringe mit nem Knopflochstich am Loch festgemacht, aber sehr viel haltbarer wird das dadurch auch nicht. Weite Verbreitung von Stahl in der Bekleidung gab's dann erst mit der Industrialisierung, da werden dann auch die Taillen plötzlich schmaler weil man mehr Druck ausüben kann.
Si tôt le corset placé, serré, il est judicieux de remonter les seins dans les bonnets.. Autre chose : il serait à conseiller à l'habilleuse de mettre une longue jupe, et non un pantalon. Pantalon on en voit que trop dans la rue.
I'm sorry but I have to reply in English, I'm very bad at writing in French :) I didn't want to readjust my friends breasts after tying the stays because there were photographers all around looking for a racey image of historical lingerie, girl-on-girl boob-grabbing would have been sure to make it into the papers (and not in a good way). And I just wore pants because the day was very cold and the skirt I had planned to wear would have been too chilly :)
Goldkehlchen20 wenn das wirklich passt, ist es auch bequem, wenn Du nach oben hin atmest:-) Na ja, Ich schnüre halt gern wirklich eng und hart. Das geht nicht, ohne dass sich zu Schnürende an einem Pfosten oder ähnlichem festhält. Das Gefühl des harten, unnachgiebigen Korsetts im Vergleich zum restlichen, weichen Weibskörper ist großartig:-)))
Nach oben Atmen ist für Zivilisten, die müssen auch nicht Höre Israel singen. Da geht ohne anständige Bauchatmung garnichts. Jeder, wie er gerne mag, ne^^ Mit historischer Bekleidungspraxis hat das dann aber nichts mehr zu tun.
Unfortunately I couldn't. The whole point of the "Night of Museums" is for crowds of people to hit as many museums and exhibits as possible, so there is a lot of crowd-rotation. The fact that I had such a loud and noisy crowd there is a good thing in that regard, because it means that my presentation made a lot of people stop and listen/ watch/ take pictures. It's a constant fight for attention in that regard, which I had, hence the noisy fashion-civilians everywhere :)
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Danke fürs hochladen. Das hast du wunderbar gemacht. Bisher habe ich nur englische Videos zu dem Thema gefunden. Es ist schön das ich diesmal alles verstehen konnte. 😉
Toller Vortrag und sehr interessant! Danke fürs Hochladen ;)
I enjoyed your presentation and the information as well. Thank you!
Somehow I am not able to add a comment direction. I so much appreciate your skill and great passion for the subject. I learned a great deal. Thank you for posting.
I study fashion and our class has to make creative pieces inspired by different times of fashion. I have the Marie Antoinette era! This was a very informative and fun video to watch thanks!
I'm glad you had fun, I wish you the best of luck with your project :)
Amazing to see how women actually wore there clothes! So many layers. I really LOVE the regency style. Great video!
I am planning on making something victorian at some point, those clothes have even more layers :D
I Love this
Very interesting to watch! that bit about molding from the bottom was hilarious!
I would love to be able to do this exact thing. I love period fashion, especially women's clothing of the 15th-19th centuries, and would love to make it and teach people about it in a practical sense like this, so I love watching these presentations. Your passion for what you talk about is very clear, even if I only understood very little of what was spoken (so thanks for the captions!) This was a really wonderful presentation!
Thanks a lot^^
Honestly, the captions were the most difficult and time consuming part of this entire project XD
You have some good information and beautiful clothing, but you seems to have some common misconceptions about 18th century fashion and how it works, especially the stays. As someone who wears 18th century fashion on a daily basis and dress myself in them on a daily basis, I can assure you it does not take hours to get ready, nor is the stays a sign of wealth at this point. In Britain and the American Colonies, stays would be provided even for the poor, albeit usually leather, but they were a necessity for support as well as fashion. Nor was it a sign you had a ladies maid (or enslaved waiting woman in many of the American Colonies at the time). Front lacing stays were available for an easier time if one did not have a maid, and even the back lacing stays are not impossible to get into on your own.
Yea I know, don't worry.
That's what happens when you squeeze a very complicated topic into the time frame of half an hour and try to narrow complex themes down for tourists with no prior info. Things get lost or just foggy.
I was specifically talking about fully boned, silk-covered backlacing stays with actual whalebone in them, but after holding the same speech 5 times in a row, things get kindof fuzzy.
Reed-stuffed cheap leather stays for servants really isn't the same thing though, wouldn't you agree? Personally, if I was a servant and had to get up in the dark at 5.00 am, I'd ditch the backlacing but maybe that's just me ;)
It's been 2.5yrs since this was posted so I greatly hope you have learned much more on this subject.
There is plenty of misinformation in this presentation; this is how people that don't dive in to find the information get wild misconceptions about historical clothing & customs. :(
However, you are very good in general at giving these small group presentations. You are good at engaging the audience without slipping out of the presentation. You speak up & look at the audience as often as you can. Work on your knowledge & this could be an amazing presentation.
3 years, actually, feels more like 7 though. I did learn a lot in the meantime, thanks for your concern :)
Is there anything in particular you find to be wrong or debatable? Some things seem to be a question of whose research you decide to follow, but I don't know what you're referring to specifically. A lot was based on Caroline Webers book because I had just read that at the time.
I was quite unhappy with the way it came out in the end. I had to generalise a LOT because the goal was to get as many people as possible with no prior knowledge to stick around for as long as we could. There is a lot of room for misconceptions when things have to be watered down and made simple.
I tried the academic approach once, with all the jargon and the references to research. People got bored and walked out.
This was very interesting and you can really see your enthusiasm for the subject - thank you very much for sharing :) I'm hoping to start making my own historical garments soon as I've always found it fascinating! I did always wonder at the eyelet stress on the stays from the over tightening that was supposed to have gone on... now I know the answer to that!
Most corset experts are pretty sure that there wasn't much tightening going on that went beyond 2 inches waist-reduction, so this wasp-waist-thing is pretty much a myth for all fashions before the mid-victorian age.
Thank you, wonderful lecture and clothes.
Ich bin für eine Hausarbeit (Kostümgeschichte) auf dieses Video gestoßen und fand es ganz wunderbar! Toll erzählt, die Zeit ist schnell verflogen beim Gucken. Vielen Dank!
Cool, worüber schreibst Du denn? :D
Verlass Dich auf keinen Fall zu sehr auf mein Video von damals, das war absichtlich alles total schwammig und allgemein gehalten, weil wir die Zuschauer nicht verschrecken sollten XD
@@Goldkehlchen20 ach alles gut 🙈 schreibe über die Wandlung vom chemisenkleid zur Biedermeier-Mode. Wollte nur mal nach einer Verbildlichung schauen und da bin ich auf das Video gestoßen. Die Infos hole ich mir natürlich noch mehr über andere Quellen heran, aber war sehr interessant mal visuell zu sehen, was so getragen wurde. Auch woraus die kleidung gemacht wurde war sehr interessant für mich. Bin selber gelernte Schneiderin, da schaut man einfach mal gerne bei "echter" Kleidung vorbei statt Malereien anzuschauen aus der Zeit
👍🏻
@@kristinaanikonovaa Sorry ich hab immer das Bedürfnis, so kleine Disclaimer einzubauen. Viele Leute machen sich die Mühe eigener Recherche nicht und am Ende bin ich schuld, wenn wer was Falsches erzählt XD
Mir hat bei dem Chemisenkleid und den Hintergründen dazu total 'Queen of Fashion' von Caroline Weber geholfen, kennst Du das? Für Empire/ Regency kann ich außerdem Regency Women's Dress von Cassidy Percoco empfehlen, da sind abgenommene Schnitte von echten Kleidern von 1800 bis 1827 drin. Die Legende dadrin hat toll den Wandel der Silhouette rübergebracht. Außer, Du kennst das schon, dann is auch wurscht :D
I love your videos! Thanks so much for sharing. I had been wondering about the underpinnings with the chemise/shepherdess style dresses. Now I know and see how to make them work for my figure. Do you have the patterns you used for the chemise dress and the english dress with the pretty floral print?
erst dachte ich ich halt keine halbe stunde durch aber du hast es richtig gut gelöst! Habs zwar über 3 Tage verteilt geguggt, aber bis zum ende. Sehr interessant und du warst echt fix mit an und aus ziehen, aber ich muss mich auch immer selbst einkleiden, vielleicht liegts daran xD
Ich hab viel zu schnell geredet, wir haben das die komplette Öffnungszeit alle volle Stunde durchgezogen bis kurz vor Mitternacht... nach ner Weile verschwimmt alles so ein bisschen.
Aber ja, bei sich selbst ist das alles definitiv schwieriger. Hab zuhause auch niemanden, der mir hinten das Korsett zuschnürt etc, ich kann das also gut nachvollziehen :)
Ach du je! Nein zu schnell war das gar nicht, genau richtig finde ich : )
I have read in several sources that the tabs or tassets on the bottom of the stays are supposed to be for making sure the skirt waistbands do not slip down.
They certainly do have that effect as well.
I recently made a pair of early short-stays that more or less kept the georgian shape but just ended at the waist and believe me, it gets very uncomfortable when the bones just pinch into the waist without the pressure being directed away from the body.
know the feeling, I have never ventured into georgian, which is what i'm researching now. I mainly do movie replica costumes (see my videos) mainly disney, which is mostly kind of victorian period with corsets and seperate bodices to the skirts, or gone with the wind. I went to a museum and resource centre in lecieser England 2 years ago an dby appointment you could look at actual hsitoricla garments. I got to see some 17th century early georgians stays and it was solid as a rock, it was like metal armour. but the historical lady there said the same thing as in my books, that the only reason for the tassets was to stop skirt waistbnads from slipping. But since when did men make anything back in history comfortable for woman, as men did all the cutting and making, woman weren't allowed. They were constantly being forced from decade to decade into some other kind of shape ot another, just becuase mankind could acehive it. Boning though does help with keeping your back straight, I notice a big difference when i'm wearing a corset, but yeh after a few hours in a dress as well and your not used to them, you startto think that's enough now. It's not like the old days when your would get used to wearing them from a very early age. Nice video though :)
Yea I'm aware of your work :)
Sounds like a really cool opportunity to get to see historical garments up close like that. I've had enough to do with museum curators to take most of what they say with a grain of salt though. There are a lot of truisms floating around in historical research and the soft sciences.
Usually one can name a variety of reasons why a certain shape is the way it is, but the reality is that it often just developed out of a previously existing shape and just happens to have a number of advantages, as in 'correlation does not equal causation'.
From wearing those garments I know that the bumroll takes care of the skirt sticking out quite well, the tassets aren't actually required for it. Distributing the pressure and the weight of the gown evenly is a lot more important in that case, which is why I phrased it that way.
As for those truisms: I'd not be so quick to blame uncomfortable clothing on the patriarchy, things usually aren't that simple. There are quite a few factors going into clothing and a male conspiracy for the opression of women usually isn't a factor. There is a pretty good blogpost about this subject by 'facts over feelings' on the whole Emma Watson not wearing a corset because of supposed feminism-issue that explains the subject pretty well, I can only recommend it :)
I'm looking forward to you exploring the georgian time-period. Also, the stays aren't nearly as constricting as victorian corsets^^
well I think it's makes snese and like it states that in a lot of books as well. Wow didn't know we were that famours, gosh it's small wolrd. :)
Now you completely lost me.
Ich habe neulich eine ältere Dame getroffen, die noch mit dem Stock im Kleid, aber hinten und zudätzlich mit einem Querstock hinter dem Rücken und vor der Armbeuge zu einer guten Körperhaltung erzogen wurde. Die Frau hat heute noch eine unvergleichliche Haltung..
Danke!
I'm going to Germany this summer, what museum did you have the exhibit at?
That's the Porcelain Museum Frankfurt. It's not directly in Frankfurt though, so that's a bit confusing for some. It's mainly about porcelain, hence the title :)
Danke
Vielen Dank fürs Hochladen!
Machst du öfters Vorträge oder gibt es ein Museum, in dem die Kleider dauerhaft ausgestellt sind?
Hi, schön, dass es dir gefallen hat :)
Ausgestellt werden die Kleider nicht, die sind ja nicht wirklich historisch. Vorträge in der Art mache ich leider nicht regelmäßig. Das war der erste Vortrag, den ich bisher zu diesem Thema gehalten habe, aber wenn sich die Gelegenheit ergibt, mach ich sowas in Zukunft öfter^^
Das wäre schön! Ich beschäftige mich auch mit dem Thema Historische Mode und bin über alles froh, was man so findet :) Auch wenn es nicht ganz historisch korrekt ist. Hast du eine Ausbildung in dem Bereich gemacht?
Nee, ich hab Germanistik studiert XD
Das mit der historischen Mode ist mehr so nebenbei passiert, ist also eher ein obsessives Hobby.
Also, wir haben 1780. Die Gründung der USA ist gerade 4 Jahre her. Die Engländer haben sich aus USA zurückgezogen (so aus der Erinnerung heraus). Baumwolle muss ein sehr teurer Importstoff gewesen sein und daher selten. Leinen aus dem einheimischen Flachs dagegen müsste billig gewesen sein. Mich wundert, dass auf dem Kontinent überhaupt Baumwolle zur Verfügung gestanden haben soll.
Oh ja das war super-teuer, so ein bedruckter Baumwollstoff konnte teurer sein als Seide. Atmungsaktiver war der auch noch und waschbar.
Wenn's nach mir geht müsste man aber die Leinenproduktion in Deutschland wieder einführen, das ist tatsächlich ein tolles Material das Seide, Baumwolle und Synthetikfasern locker in die Tasche steckt. Wolle kommt auf den zweiten Platz :)
Goldkehlchen20 sehe ich genauso
Do you sell your clothes you make?
Unfortunately not, they are way too much work to sell for profit and you grow to love them while sewing :)
Another explanation (a more accurate one) for not wearing underpants it´s because it was very difficult to go to the toilet with them. Imagine lifting all of that skirts AND then having to push down your underpants. Those weren´t invented until victorian era, when women wore pettycoats with a stiff rounded border, that maked easier to lift the skirt.
Very true, although that isn't so much the consciously chosen reason back in those days but more of a centuries-old custom nobody bothered to change. Honestly, even today I'd say it's probably more comfortable not having to fiddle with several layers of pants and shirts, all tucked into one another, when going to a cramped restroom.
When crinolines came in, women HAD to wear something for modesty underneath. Hence the introduction of drawers. Open drawers, as you mentioned, are way easier under dresses and skirts. It wasn't until skirts shortened seriously around WWI that women started wearing a closed style of underwear exclusively.
Kennst Du "Der Kontrakt des Zeichners?"
Hmm nee sagt mir jetzt nichts.
Goldkehlchen20 Ein Film von Peter Greenaway, ein Tod in 13 Bildern oder Ein Film, der eigentlich ein Barockgemälde werden wollte. Die Kleider sind wunderbar, die männlichen wie die weiblichen.
Klingt gut, muss ich mir mal ansehen. Danke für den Tipp :)
Goldkehlchen20 sieh ihn Dir auf englisch an. Das ist erheblich geiler..
Goldkehlchen20 th-cam.com/video/mFHs5oTWBdg/w-d-xo.html
Bist Du Dir sicher, dass keine Metallösen verwendet wurden? Immerhin gab es Silber, Kupfer,, Bronze, Messing.
Absolut sicher, es gibt kein einziges Stück mit Metallösen aus dem Zeitraum. Manchmal hat man wie so kleine Metallringe mit nem Knopflochstich am Loch festgemacht, aber sehr viel haltbarer wird das dadurch auch nicht.
Weite Verbreitung von Stahl in der Bekleidung gab's dann erst mit der Industrialisierung, da werden dann auch die Taillen plötzlich schmaler weil man mehr Druck ausüben kann.
Goldkehlchen20 ja, das mache ich gern, die Taillen eng und enger schnüren.
Also das klingt jetzt schon so ein bisschen sadistisch XD
Si tôt le corset placé, serré, il est judicieux de remonter les seins dans les bonnets..
Autre chose : il serait à conseiller à l'habilleuse de mettre une longue jupe, et non un pantalon. Pantalon on en voit que trop dans la rue.
I'm sorry but I have to reply in English, I'm very bad at writing in French :)
I didn't want to readjust my friends breasts after tying the stays because there were photographers all around looking for a racey image of historical lingerie, girl-on-girl boob-grabbing would have been sure to make it into the papers (and not in a good way).
And I just wore pants because the day was very cold and the skirt I had planned to wear would have been too chilly :)
Es gibt durchaus Frauen, die in der Lage sind, sich ein Korsett selbst zu schnüren.
Ich schnür mir das auch selbst aber so gelenkig sind die meisten Leute tatsächlich nicht. Und das jeden Morgen selbst machen wär schon echt ein Akt...
Ich mag die eher bequem, so ne Rokoko-Schnürbrust braucht ja auch Spielraum im Rücken. Außerdem braucht mein Zwerchfell Platz nach unten beim Atmen :)
Goldkehlchen20 wenn das wirklich passt, ist es auch bequem, wenn Du nach oben hin atmest:-) Na ja, Ich schnüre halt gern wirklich eng und hart. Das geht nicht, ohne dass sich zu Schnürende an einem Pfosten oder ähnlichem festhält. Das Gefühl des harten, unnachgiebigen Korsetts im Vergleich zum restlichen, weichen Weibskörper ist großartig:-)))
Nach oben Atmen ist für Zivilisten, die müssen auch nicht Höre Israel singen. Da geht ohne anständige Bauchatmung garnichts.
Jeder, wie er gerne mag, ne^^ Mit historischer Bekleidungspraxis hat das dann aber nichts mehr zu tun.
She should have told the audience to SHUT UP!!! :-)
Unfortunately I couldn't. The whole point of the "Night of Museums" is for crowds of people to hit as many museums and exhibits as possible, so there is a lot of crowd-rotation. The fact that I had such a loud and noisy crowd there is a good thing in that regard, because it means that my presentation made a lot of people stop and listen/ watch/ take pictures. It's a constant fight for attention in that regard, which I had, hence the noisy fashion-civilians everywhere :)