Astounding slow mo tutorial. I was able to pin point my own mistakes. Thank you Tom Lodziak for putting such great videos. I bought your book the other day and learning lots of knew things. I started playing TT 3 months ago, and your channel and the book are a hidden gem. Thank you!
This series of videos with amateur/pro player in slow motion is incredible. Thanks for the good work, it is really interesting to analyze the technique in such details.
I have seen many of your videos over the years, and this is my favorite one so far. I feel that there are many great points that I can use to help my own game. I also see that in the setup, his wrist is flexed on this right hand, while your hand is extended. I am not sure how relevant that is, but there is a big difference. All the best!
Tom, I'm not one who typically comments on videos. But I had to take the time to comment on this one. THIS IS AN EXCELLENT AND I DO MEAN, EXCELLENT VIDEO! Thank you very much for the analysis. This is GOLDEN!! I really appreciate it!!
An excellent break down and explanation of Liam’s technique. One other thing I noticed is that he also brings his left arm further across and then swings it back around therefore creating more energy with the rotation of his upper body.
Hello Tom. At 5:02 in the above video, the BAT ANGLE and the ARM-SWING ANGLE of Liam Pitchford is 40° while YOUR BAT ANGLE and ARM-SWING ANGLE is 56°. Since the COSIN of Liam's 40° BAT ANGLE is 0.766 and the COSIN of YOUR 56° BAT ANGLE is 0.559, then (ignoring for the moment the HIGHER ARC that your LOOP has compared to Liam's LOOP), if we presume for the moment that the SPEED of Liam's ARM-SWING is the same as the SPEED of your ARM-SWING, then simple Trigonometry tells us that the FORWARD MOVEMENT of Liam's LOOP against backspin will be 37% FASTER than yours, because 0.766/0.559 = 1.37. And when we factor in the LOWER ARC of Liam's ball compared to YOUR ball, then this SPEED DIFFERENCE is possibly even GREATER. If you can simply LOWER your BAT ANGLE and ARM-SWING-ANGLE from your current 56° to 45° (a more common BAT ANGLE for ADVANCED players for a LOOP against backspin) the FORWARD BALL SPEED of your LOOP against backspin would increase by 26%, because 0.707/0.559 = 1.264.
About the fluid motion. So there is something called micro adjustment that the amateur players don't do. This is when the player is about to make a shot he is realxing his body and even fingers you can see how Liam is doing it as he kind of lets go of his racket this allows him to make a good swing. And just when he is about to hit the ball you can (barely) see how he tightens up so he can play this strong shot and then relaxes again. This is the micro adjustment. And that's why Tom's movement seems so robotic compared to Laim Pitchford.
We're indeed supposed to tighten our grip only at the very contact of the ball and keep the grip loose at all time, something amateur players rarely do.
In all sport it's always super imprecise to see the difference a very good player at a sport and a pro and of course table tennis is a perfect exemple . Super interesting video !!
Liam’s hit looks like a slap while yours looks like a brush. And wow, so lucky of you to have Liam Pitchfork as a personal pro sample. I’ve seen him in different video if yours.
Great tutorial, and the slow motion really helps to understand the key movements and positioning. If Liam does his forehand topspin in the same way as yours, it would go to the net, I believe that the wrist "whip" is what makes the ball go over. It's a very fluid movement, shows how many hours and probably reviewing of footage he's done. The rotation is very fast as well, I've noticed that he uses his left arm to help with the rotation, bringing it in when he goes back and then rotating it out very fast.
Great video, Tom, though you missed the key difference. Liam's arm is driven by his body rotation; watch how is elbow rotates back and forward in sync with his hips. You arm is moving more independently of your hip rotation; watch your elbow go back and forward ahead of your hips. For this reason, Liam 's power comes from his legs, whereas yours is mostly an arm shot. If you work on keeping your elbow more connected (via shoulders and core tension) to your hips, you'll find you can easily generate more power.
That's a great analysis Tom - thank you and well done. Really worth reflecting on. PS:. Your personal technique seems to keep improving - clearly all those table tennis tips are being put to use for yourself also!! 😉. Your forehand movement and turning and posture is so much better than some years back. Maybe you should do a comparison between your technique then and now!? Cheers Dan
Yes, I think I have improved my technique over the past few years. But I still have such a long list of things to work on. A comparison video of 'old Tom' and 'new Tom' could be interesting.
outstanding video! one observation. i would never be able to hit FS TS with this much forward because i dont have 1/4 the acceleration that the pro has. it's the acceleration that gives the ball the lift to get up and over the net eh? the forward is what's generating the tremendous speed. if i hit this much forward, i would hit the ball into the net every time. the rest of us. non-pros have to hit w/ a bit more up because of this...unless you're young and strong can can generate that much power from the legs and hips. one key difference i noticed from the video is that Tom's arm rotates back and is a "stiffer" 45 degrees through the weight xfer. but the pro's arm is a bit straighter when back and articulates at the elbow for additional power/speed.
Amaizing! Thank you very much! I have noticed one more thing that you do different, when watching you from the side, you arm from the start till the moment it hits the ball is making small arc movement, while Liams is going very stright for that section.
I don't see a point in looking at top European players' technique. Every one of them is doing their own thing. There is no such thing as table tennis technique in Europe. Liam's technique is completely crazy, with his index finger insanely high on the rubber, an unhinged wrist action, weight all the way back, alpine skiing-style weight transfer with no push from his right foot, etc. There are like 100 things in how he does it that won't work for anyone else on the planet. It works for him, but there is absolutely no reason for any amateur to be looking at this. Thank you for this slow-mo, I always thought his stroke was off the hook crazy, but this gives a unique perspective into how completely mental it actually is.
@@ZynischerDemokrat no one was there to fix it when he was a kid. He’s using the whiplash effect to put a little more speed on the paddle, but of course that comes at the cost of a lot of accuracy. It can work for a pro player who just happens to be talented enough… a poor idea for anyone else :)
@@ZynischerDemokratit’s not textbook but the way it set up the wrist opened up the angle so he can achieve the smooth transition from open bat angle to closed bat angle as needed. This is much better way to have the ball stick to the rubber rather than vice versa (closed to open). The reverse would ruin the swing arch and cause the ball to be out of control, usually fall to the net when tried to brush and fall out when you hit because of lack of dwelling time means less spin. The worst thing is actually you can play that way and put the ball to the opponent side so a lot of newer players never got this problem fixed. I only got this fixed after seeing myself on slow motion camera.
While there are some obvious 'bad' techniques, there is no such thing as a single all encompassing 'perfect' technique. You should be taking the best and most relatable bits from each example to improve you own technique. Immediately ruling out techniques because it isnt widely adopted will put a ceiling on your own development. tldr take everything (good and bad) with a healthy grain of salt :)
Nice video. Thanks for posting. Another thing that the pro does is that he unwinds his body before the arm comes forward more than you do. There is a slight delay hard to see in normal speed. This adds a whip like action and the result is that the stroke is faster, more relaxed and fluid. Its like the body is moving the arm more. Body first then arm second. Another thing the pro does a little is that he uses a bent arm takeback and straightens the arm a little in the forward swing. Many Chinese pros straighten the arm a lot more in the forward swing giving even more racket head speed. You need a relaxed arm to do this that most club players never experience.
Thanks for the video and everything you do. I think you missed the most important difference which is the racket face angle in the back swing. Liam lets the racket see the sky, which then allows him to go forward, as you mentioned, while your racket is too closed and you are enforced to actually open it up in your forward swing motion, finishing above your forehead. I see *a lot* of players strugling with this stroke because of this issue, so I think it could be very helpful to point it out. The thumbnail shows literally the best possible frame to see it
Another thing that might be worth noticing is Liam’s right shoulder. He keeps it very low during the stroke and at the end it is no higher than his left. Tom’s right shoulder is higher in the stroke and ends up a bit higher than his left. My coach has been pushing me to keep that right shoulder low is why that popped out for me.
I just started doing training recently and wow I've been doing so much wrong! was able to point out all of the stuff I was doing wrong within mere minutes. Thanks for your breakdown!
Great video. Been busy playing and finally got a chance to watch this one. Great video. I actually think beginner to intermediate players should work toward your style first and then as they progress, and only then, move on to Liam's style. I still have to be careful to not end up blocking the ball versus really looping it so I still go with the more vertical movement (versus more forward movement) to better insure a looping motion (although Liam is looping too). But that's just me and where I am at right now.
Liam is timing his backswing better too, he's stronger so he can push harder with his legs. His arm is going against his body and then being dragged forward by the rotation. It's a whip type motion which is lacking a bit in your stroke Tom.
Really love the side-to-side comparison, very much highlighting the quality difference between amateurs and real pros. One thing I also somewhat notice is Pitchford seems have faster backswing and preparation phase. Comparatively he starts his backswing later, but contacts the ball at the same time with Lodziak. Tell me if I'm wrong.
yeah, it's very important to don't react 'too fast'. It's a big mistake of mine, I am moving too early so it's easy to miscalculate where the ball will go exactly and how much will it kick off the table. Liam waits a little longer to have a better understanding of the incoming ball.
Incredible tutorial Tom. Thank you. Hopefully I can attain this this year after last years injury's. Both knees complex tears, plus little fracture and partial torn ligament in one.. Here's to fighting to get to this lol ... Hope you had a lovely Christmas and NY. 🤗👊
Oh boy. That sounds like some nasty injuries. I have multiple surgeries on my right knee, so I can understand how much effort it takes to regain fitness. Don't rush it, but keep on building your strength and flexibility. Hope 2023 is a better year for you.
At this point, after starting tt at 30 now 5 years into it, I missed the train to become a professional player by about 25 years. For beginners at young age, this tutorial is very good. Since I will never become proficient at having such a good fh topspin, I rather stick to being an annoying pusher/chopper instead, giving average loopers a very hard time.
@@BloodEmpireGPLP I didn't give up yet. With a Federal League playing trainer right now who shows me the "magic" of table tennis, my topspin game improved dramatically. Sometimes (occuring more often week by week) I hit the ball just at the perfect time, with the least effort but maximum speed, spin and precision and that gives me hope. I don't even need long pips any more on my backhand to slow down the game if needed. 5 more years and I might become a middle class player in one of my provinces. But that will take a lot of effort, I'm just half way there. Being proficient at the basics just after 5 years shows how complex of a sport table tennis is.
Some principles are absolutely right. Point your shoulder to the Ball. Get closer to the table. Open your racket more from the start. He hits the ball a little more in the front/laterally to his body. Liam basically has the perfect timing for hitting that ball because his legwork is superior aswell. And liams leg position is more parallell at the backspin ball, which brings his center of gravitiy closer to the ball. This is super important, because you will loose stability, if your leg is too far away from the ball, which often leads to weird arm movement and a bent upper body (backwards), absolutely worst case for a stroke
Somebody pointed out to me that my BH stroke was too much up than forward. I realized that corrected it. My BH stroke used to be slow and had a high arc and how it's flatter and faster. Similar to what you have found on the FH.
Two things in noticed is that Liam has a sort of slapping action where his hand is fairly relaxed until up to the moment of contact. Second is notice his index finger which is angled upwards almost parallel to his forearm instead of the typical parallel to the base of the blade that most beginners are taught to use. This is what’s helping him propel and direct the ball with more forward action and hence more pace.
Thankyou for an interesting video, whilst its very effective for Liam, I dont think its necessarily an ideal technique to copy. it would help too if the clothes worn by player were of contrasting colors so you could see more of the body position during the stroke, such as hips and waist area during technique.
@@Shrimp0kUgel Yes, but sometimes we can play/push 20 shots before changing to forehand . It's boring but I cannot force him to play faster. He is waiting for my mistake to attack and it works for him...
@@matok7036 I see! I know the feeling.. I now try to loop every backspin ball that goes long, but I'm not very consistent at that yet. Keep training, and hopefully you will be able to loop backspin balls! Good luck.
Strange you didn't mention hips/waist rotation (not only the shoulders!). Absolutely crucial for the power topspin. Your hips rotation, although can't be described as non-existent, lack amplitude and explosiveness.
also, we can see in the slowmo, liam turns his body a bit later, while you turn your body earlier. this builds up more elastic potential which allows him to bounce back faster, kinda like how you can jump higher.
Astounding slow mo tutorial. I was able to pin point my own mistakes. Thank you Tom Lodziak for putting such great videos. I bought your book the other day and learning lots of knew things. I started playing TT 3 months ago, and your channel and the book are a hidden gem. Thank you!
Thanks Amir for watching and buying the book. Keep on playing and I hope you make good progress over the next few months.
@@TomLodziak Please make a video Explaining Types, effects of Spins on Ball & How to Play or Counter them❓️
This series of videos with amateur/pro player in slow motion is incredible. Thanks for the good work, it is really interesting to analyze the technique in such details.
The side by side view of a pro & amateur is so ingenious. Well done Sensei Tom!
Tom, these latest videos with Liam are incredible! Please keep em coming!
I have seen many of your videos over the years, and this is my favorite one so far. I feel that there are many great points that I can use to help my own game. I also see that in the setup, his wrist is flexed on this right hand, while your hand is extended. I am not sure how relevant that is, but there is a big difference. All the best!
Excellent video. Plus bonus points to Tom for being so humble.
These types of videos teaching table tennis has made me fall in love with this game. Keep up the good work bro
Tom, I'm not one who typically comments on videos. But I had to take the time to comment on this one. THIS IS AN EXCELLENT AND I DO MEAN, EXCELLENT VIDEO! Thank you very much for the analysis. This is GOLDEN!! I really appreciate it!!
Thanks for the feedback. Hope the video helps in some small way.
An excellent break down and explanation of Liam’s technique. One other thing I noticed is that he also brings his left arm further across and then swings it back around therefore creating more energy with the rotation of his upper body.
Hello Tom. At 5:02 in the above video, the BAT ANGLE and the ARM-SWING ANGLE of Liam Pitchford is 40° while YOUR BAT ANGLE and ARM-SWING ANGLE is 56°.
Since the COSIN of Liam's 40° BAT ANGLE is 0.766 and the COSIN of YOUR 56° BAT ANGLE is 0.559, then (ignoring for the moment the HIGHER ARC that your LOOP
has compared to Liam's LOOP), if we presume for the moment that the SPEED of Liam's ARM-SWING is the same as the SPEED of your ARM-SWING, then simple
Trigonometry tells us that the FORWARD MOVEMENT of Liam's LOOP against backspin will be 37% FASTER than yours,
because 0.766/0.559 = 1.37. And when we factor in the LOWER ARC of Liam's ball compared to YOUR ball, then this SPEED DIFFERENCE is possibly even GREATER.
If you can simply LOWER your BAT ANGLE and ARM-SWING-ANGLE from your current 56° to 45° (a more common BAT ANGLE for ADVANCED players for a LOOP against
backspin) the FORWARD BALL SPEED of your LOOP against backspin would increase by 26%, because 0.707/0.559 = 1.264.
Tom all Your videos are excellent. I am sure whole TT community will get benefited by it. Thank You!
About the fluid motion. So there is something called micro adjustment that the amateur players don't do. This is when the player is about to make a shot he is realxing his body and even fingers you can see how Liam is doing it as he kind of lets go of his racket this allows him to make a good swing. And just when he is about to hit the ball you can (barely) see how he tightens up so he can play this strong shot and then relaxes again. This is the micro adjustment. And that's why Tom's movement seems so robotic compared to Laim Pitchford.
We're indeed supposed to tighten our grip only at the very contact of the ball and keep the grip loose at all time, something amateur players rarely do.
One of the most useful videos on TH-cam to improve TS…thx much
brilliant video, slow motion stoppages are excellent with precise shoulder position and feet placement, very clearly explained. thanks from India.
Tom, very thanks for making the video with Liam. I am sure to improve as you have shown.
In all sport it's always super imprecise to see the difference a very good player at a sport and a pro and of course table tennis is a perfect exemple . Super interesting video !!
Really good idea this comparison series Tom. It helps a lot correcting the own technique. Thanks
Amazing comparison and analysis. Thank you Tom
Liam’s hit looks like a slap while yours looks like a brush. And wow, so lucky of you to have Liam Pitchfork as a personal pro sample. I’ve seen him in different video if yours.
Great video! Today was my first practice doing FH topspin. Really helpful. Greeting from Argentina.
This is a really good contribution Tom. Good job!
Thanks for sharing. Appreciate the slowmo and 4k too 👍🏼
Great tutorial, and the slow motion really helps to understand the key movements and positioning. If Liam does his forehand topspin in the same way as yours, it would go to the net, I believe that the wrist "whip" is what makes the ball go over. It's a very fluid movement, shows how many hours and probably reviewing of footage he's done. The rotation is very fast as well, I've noticed that he uses his left arm to help with the rotation, bringing it in when he goes back and then rotating it out very fast.
Good catch on Liam's left hand
A superb video. One of your best, Tom. Thank you for your help.
Great video, Tom, though you missed the key difference. Liam's arm is driven by his body rotation; watch how is elbow rotates back and forward in sync with his hips. You arm is moving more independently of your hip rotation; watch your elbow go back and forward ahead of your hips. For this reason, Liam 's power comes from his legs, whereas yours is mostly an arm shot. If you work on keeping your elbow more connected (via shoulders and core tension) to your hips, you'll find you can easily generate more power.
Thank you for guiding me as i return back post 3 decades!
Thank you for another great video with Liam. Wait for more.
Best yet. The slo-mo is very useful
That's a great analysis Tom - thank you and well done. Really worth reflecting on.
PS:. Your personal technique seems to keep improving - clearly all those table tennis tips are being put to use for yourself also!! 😉. Your forehand movement and turning and posture is so much better than some years back. Maybe you should do a comparison between your technique then and now!?
Cheers
Dan
Yes, I think I have improved my technique over the past few years. But I still have such a long list of things to work on. A comparison video of 'old Tom' and 'new Tom' could be interesting.
Fantastic video, very helpful - one of the best in that area that I have seen... thank you!
outstanding video! one observation. i would never be able to hit FS TS with this much forward because i dont have 1/4 the acceleration that the pro has. it's the acceleration that gives the ball the lift to get up and over the net eh? the forward is what's generating the tremendous speed. if i hit this much forward, i would hit the ball into the net every time. the rest of us. non-pros have to hit w/ a bit more up because of this...unless you're young and strong can can generate that much power from the legs and hips. one key difference i noticed from the video is that Tom's arm rotates back and is a "stiffer" 45 degrees through the weight xfer. but the pro's arm is a bit straighter when back and articulates at the elbow for additional power/speed.
Amaizing! Thank you very much! I have noticed one more thing that you do different, when watching you from the side, you arm from the start till the moment it hits the ball is making small arc movement, while Liams is going very stright for that section.
I don't see a point in looking at top European players' technique. Every one of them is doing their own thing. There is no such thing as table tennis technique in Europe. Liam's technique is completely crazy, with his index finger insanely high on the rubber, an unhinged wrist action, weight all the way back, alpine skiing-style weight transfer with no push from his right foot, etc. There are like 100 things in how he does it that won't work for anyone else on the planet. It works for him, but there is absolutely no reason for any amateur to be looking at this. Thank you for this slow-mo, I always thought his stroke was off the hook crazy, but this gives a unique perspective into how completely mental it actually is.
I am not getting what he is doing with his wrist. I think it doesn't support the stroke at all. Also I think the video is not bad at all.
@@ZynischerDemokrat no one was there to fix it when he was a kid. He’s using the whiplash effect to put a little more speed on the paddle, but of course that comes at the cost of a lot of accuracy. It can work for a pro player who just happens to be talented enough… a poor idea for anyone else :)
@@ZynischerDemokratit’s not textbook but the way it set up the wrist opened up the angle so he can achieve the smooth transition from open bat angle to closed bat angle as needed. This is much better way to have the ball stick to the rubber rather than vice versa (closed to open). The reverse would ruin the swing arch and cause the ball to be out of control, usually fall to the net when tried to brush and fall out when you hit because of lack of dwelling time means less spin.
The worst thing is actually you can play that way and put the ball to the opponent side so a lot of newer players never got this problem fixed. I only got this fixed after seeing myself on slow motion camera.
I naturally do that same pointer finger in my FH
While there are some obvious 'bad' techniques, there is no such thing as a single all encompassing 'perfect' technique. You should be taking the best and most relatable bits from each example to improve you own technique. Immediately ruling out techniques because it isnt widely adopted will put a ceiling on your own development. tldr take everything (good and bad) with a healthy grain of salt :)
Great stuff! Love the comparison (and the humility :D it's not always easy analysis your own self!)
That was nice to see liam play ^^ what a amazing down spin drive.
Tom this is enormously helpful. Please do more like this
I learned much, thanks!!! love your tutorial
Nice video. Thanks for posting. Another thing that the pro does is that he unwinds his body before the arm comes forward more than you do. There is a slight delay hard to see in normal speed. This adds a whip like action and the result is that the stroke is faster, more relaxed and fluid. Its like the body is moving the arm more. Body first then arm second.
Another thing the pro does a little is that he uses a bent arm takeback and straightens the arm a little in the forward swing. Many Chinese pros straighten the arm a lot more in the forward swing giving even more racket head speed. You need a relaxed arm to do this that most club players never experience.
Great analysis, Tom! Most convincing! Keep it on/
Thanks for the video and everything you do.
I think you missed the most important difference which is the racket face angle in the back swing. Liam lets the racket see the sky, which then allows him to go forward, as you mentioned, while your racket is too closed and you are enforced to actually open it up in your forward swing motion, finishing above your forehead.
I see *a lot* of players strugling with this stroke because of this issue, so I think it could be very helpful to point it out.
The thumbnail shows literally the best possible frame to see it
Another thing that might be worth noticing is Liam’s right shoulder. He keeps it very low during the stroke and at the end it is no higher than his left. Tom’s right shoulder is higher in the stroke and ends up a bit higher than his left. My coach has been pushing me to keep that right shoulder low is why that popped out for me.
Top class analysis.. big thanks Tom
I just started doing training recently and wow I've been doing so much wrong! was able to point out all of the stuff I was doing wrong within mere minutes. Thanks for your breakdown!
Great video. Been busy playing and finally got a chance to watch this one. Great video. I actually think beginner to intermediate players should work toward your style first and then as they progress, and only then, move on to Liam's style. I still have to be careful to not end up blocking the ball versus really looping it so I still go with the more vertical movement (versus more forward movement) to better insure a looping motion (although Liam is looping too). But that's just me and where I am at right now.
Your videos are really helping my game
Great analysis. Well done!
Liam is timing his backswing better too, he's stronger so he can push harder with his legs. His arm is going against his body and then being dragged forward by the rotation. It's a whip type motion which is lacking a bit in your stroke Tom.
Incredibly useful video! Slomo is great and very well explained! Thank you and please keep these coming! 😊👍 Subscribed!
EXCELLENT video Tom
Just watched one game by Liam in the 2022 Chengdu WTT championships, He is a very strong TT player!
There is so much depth, detail and skill to every sport
Excellent explanation
Excellent analysis!!
hard to find good analysis, excellent!
Great video, coach
Great tips for the forehand topspin.
Fantastic video! You learn so much and can try to pinpoint these in your own game, thanks!!
Really love the side-to-side comparison, very much highlighting the quality difference between amateurs and real pros. One thing I also somewhat notice is Pitchford seems have faster backswing and preparation phase. Comparatively he starts his backswing later, but contacts the ball at the same time with Lodziak. Tell me if I'm wrong.
yeah, it's very important to don't react 'too fast'. It's a big mistake of mine, I am moving too early so it's easy to miscalculate where the ball will go exactly and how much will it kick off the table. Liam waits a little longer to have a better understanding of the incoming ball.
Excellent tutorial
Very informative content thanks ✨
Thank you Tom, very interesting video!
Good job tom!
That was a million Dollar demonstration.
Thanks.
Incredible tutorial Tom. Thank you. Hopefully I can attain this this year after last years injury's. Both knees complex tears, plus little fracture and partial torn ligament in one.. Here's to fighting to get to this lol ... Hope you had a lovely Christmas and NY. 🤗👊
Oh boy. That sounds like some nasty injuries. I have multiple surgeries on my right knee, so I can understand how much effort it takes to regain fitness. Don't rush it, but keep on building your strength and flexibility. Hope 2023 is a better year for you.
@@TomLodziak Thank you Tom... Appreciate it!
you returned one.
Excellent vidéo !
At this point, after starting tt at 30 now 5 years into it, I missed the train to become a professional player by about 25 years.
For beginners at young age, this tutorial is very good.
Since I will never become proficient at having such a good fh topspin, I rather stick to being an annoying pusher/chopper instead, giving average loopers a very hard time.
Dont give up! Im 35 and I just startet as well, getting in shape to be able to reach that level only for the love of it.
@@BloodEmpireGPLP I didn't give up yet.
With a Federal League playing trainer right now who shows me the "magic" of table tennis, my topspin game improved dramatically.
Sometimes (occuring more often week by week) I hit the ball just at the perfect time, with the least effort but maximum speed, spin and precision and that gives me hope.
I don't even need long pips any more on my backhand to slow down the game if needed.
5 more years and I might become a middle class player in one of my provinces.
But that will take a lot of effort, I'm just half way there.
Being proficient at the basics just after 5 years shows how complex of a sport table tennis is.
These coparisons are great!
The best Video what i see.
Some principles are absolutely right.
Point your shoulder to the Ball.
Get closer to the table.
Open your racket more from the start.
He hits the ball a little more in the front/laterally to his body.
Liam basically has the perfect timing for hitting that ball because his legwork is superior aswell.
And liams leg position is more parallell at the backspin ball, which brings his center of gravitiy closer to the ball. This is super important, because you will loose stability, if your leg is too far away from the ball, which often leads to weird arm movement and a bent upper body (backwards), absolutely worst case for a stroke
Inspiring ❤
Somebody pointed out to me that my BH stroke was too much up than forward. I realized that corrected it. My BH stroke used to be slow and had a high arc and how it's flatter and faster. Similar to what you have found on the FH.
I would add a 4th important point: the weight transfer..really very obvious difference between u both
In my opinion, the most important difference between them...
Very interesting. Thks
Однозначно подписка! Спасибо, тренер!
Excellent
well done on the one block Tom .
Ha! Not much of an achievement!
Parabéns amigos, mais vídeos assim por favor … ❤
Thanks for great video
Amazing!
Salam olahraga, salam satu hobi dan salam kenal untuk semuanya..
Terima kasih coach ilmunya 👋🙏
Great video.
Good job boss 👏👏
very helpful thankyou
god every time liam does a forehand its like a gun being shot lol. Also I am loving this vs pro videos, my backhand improved with that.
Very nice video
The grip also plays a very important role, although maybe minor compared to the other things you pointed out here. Excellent analysis!!
good video~ thank you
Two things in noticed is that Liam has a sort of slapping action where his hand is fairly relaxed until up to the moment of contact. Second is notice his index finger which is angled upwards almost parallel to his forearm instead of the typical parallel to the base of the blade that most beginners are taught to use. This is what’s helping him propel and direct the ball with more forward action and hence more pace.
Magnificent
Im trying to make an animation of people playing table tennis. This is great to use!
Please Explain the Types of Spins on Ball & their effects and How to Play or Counter them❓️❓️
Thankyou for an interesting video, whilst its very effective for Liam, I dont think its necessarily an ideal technique to copy. it would help too if the clothes worn by player were of contrasting colors so you could see more of the body position during the stroke, such as hips and waist area during technique.
very good content
Please, make a tutorial how to beat a pusher. My friend is a pusher and he always pushes a ball into my backhand. How to attack such balls?
He has already done it: th-cam.com/video/5eqfX4iE_jI/w-d-xo.html
Push back, or backhand loop
@@Shrimp0kUgel Yes, but sometimes we can play/push 20 shots before changing to forehand . It's boring but I cannot force him to play faster. He is waiting for my mistake to attack and it works for him...
@@matok7036 I see! I know the feeling.. I now try to loop every backspin ball that goes long, but I'm not very consistent at that yet. Keep training, and hopefully you will be able to loop backspin balls! Good luck.
@@Shrimp0kUgel Thanks bro! I feel I need this one thing to beat him :P
Very nice Video
yes he got a sick topspin for sure
dont forget his racket with the carbon blade and the hard rubbers is probably 2x faster than urs too thou ;)
Strange you didn't mention hips/waist rotation (not only the shoulders!). Absolutely crucial for the power topspin. Your hips rotation, although can't be described as non-existent, lack amplitude and explosiveness.
Hey Tom, would u tell us about how he changes the direction?
also, we can see in the slowmo, liam turns his body a bit later, while you turn your body earlier. this builds up more elastic potential which allows him to bounce back faster, kinda like how you can jump higher.