Loved this video! And I like so much about my chime, too, but you are spot on about support. More often than not, I even feel like they're gaslighting me on stupid issues. It's not a good look for them, and if more videos like this one come out, we'll all start learning about alternatives, but for now, what I like about chime, I love and I'm staying put.
Thanks for your feedback about AgentLocator Eric, consider it done :) we've merged the lead gen platform with our branded platform as well and are now launching all new clients on the new platform. We will upgrade all existing clients as well from the branded legacy system to the new platform as well. Also, we have VOW access (Sold data for: Toronto, Ottawa & Calgary) + we are working on others sold data feeds across Canada & the USA.
This review is spot on. I had Chime for 3 years. Had some great tools but the support was not good and the system was hard for the agents to learn a flow. Plus it seemed like they wanted to keep you in there all in one and add additional charges for new add-ons. I switched from Chime to Ylopo/FUB and have had a great experience with FUB, ylopo not ao much. 6 months later i have cancelled and moved over to Sierra Interactive amd still using FUB. I have a call scheduled with your company this week to discuss ppc, etc.
I used Real Geeks for almost 10 years. They have had so many backend technical problems over the last 12-18 months, I will be leaving them. To their credit, their tech support does answer me within 24 hours, but solutions are short lived and continuous. I went from a raving fan to absolutely not recommending them. I am leaning towards SI at this point and just have a little more research to do before making a decision. Moving all the data over...not looking forward to that.
I really want to cry right now. Why didn't I see this video BEFORE I signed that KvCore agreement 4 days ago? 😭😭 Already see soooo much problems with KvCore and everything they said in this video is spot on! I see why they don't offer a free trial because its horrible! I feel trapped! Like I was sent to prison for the next 14 months! over $1000 per month for something that doesn't work for me AT ALL! I wish I could get out of this agreement!!!
Boomtown doesn’t get our stamp of approval unfortunately. It’s another “all in one” website + CRM, but the sites are slow and not optimized for lead generation. Sierra would be the better option if want a website that converts well, and offers a more advanced backend CRM.
I have been a FollowUpBoss/Ylopo use her for about 2 1/2 years. Very happy with FollowUpBoss. I’ve been exploring options to replace ylopo so I was glad to find your video. I am exploring, reel geeks and real Scout. If you have any input on real Scout, I would appreciate that.
Follow Up Boss is owned by Zillow who can take all your client’s emails as their target audience to market directly to them. Read the fine print in their agreement.
Great video thank you! I actually have an idx website with agent locator but they also charge their management fee of about 20% whenever you increase your budget. Should i run my own google ad budget through their website, or should I do a real geeks + follow up or sierra ? Thank you!
Hey Renzo, don't want to give you too much advice without knowing your situation. If you want to book a call with our team we'd be happy to give you some advice - www.agentlaunch.com/book
This was really helpful. I'm currently using FUB with Sierra but use both CRMs for different things, which is a bit cumbersome. I'm just not ready to dump FUB it's too good. Do you think using FUB with Sierra makes sense? or should I drop FUB?
Yes the best option would be use FUB with Sierra! They integrate well, but there are some functions you will still have to do in Sierra. Like updating leads saved searches.
@@ericbpreston Yep! That's what I'm doing. I wish Sierra wasn't so clunky. Do you feel there is a website IDX only service that would be better if using FUB as the CRM? I was going to use Ylopo but your video took that off the list.
Hello Eric, what are your thoughts on using iNCOM's website will follow up boss ? What are your thoughts on Agent Locator in Calgary ? Appreciate your help.
Incom websites do integrate with follow up boss, but haven’t worked well for Google or PPC unfortunately! As for Agent Locator, we’ve only worked with Toronto agents using that one, but it works well very there for PPC, so would definitely give it a try for Calgary.
One of my main functionalities I use is putting my leads on custom home searches so they receive the newest listings daily. How is that done with FUB? Or is it not possible?
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Can I ask a really stupid question? I like the idea of using RG and FUB together but think I like SI better. I am not sure what I am basing that on. Does RG have landing pages for funnels or is that FUB? But FUB doesn't have websites so I assume you can't do funnels?? Do you need an idx for Google leads or ads? would FUB and click funnels make some sense? Is RG the best due to speed? I need a 4-hour class to digest all of the options. I am in a new market with some cold leads and zero sphere. So digital marketing is super important to me. I am also a brokerage owner, not sure that matters a lot.
I mean, if you want to build funnels I'd use something different, bit thats a whole can of worms as I'd ask what is the purpose of the funnel first? SI will work as your website/crm just fine! For funnels, we use HighLevel, I have a link in the description. But honeslty, I wouldn't go down that path alone. Also, be sure to register for my live webinar this week if you liked this, it's going to be awesome, and we talk about webinar funnels specifically! agentlaunch.com/webinar
@@ericbpreston So, I recently hooked up w/RG and am in the process of setting everything up now. Now, I'm 2ndguessing myself on whether I should buy into FUB too??? Is it really worth another $1k/yr??
Sierra is amazing...but it's SLOW AS HELL. I've used it for a year and a half, and moving from one lead to another takes 5-15 seconds. If you're calling hundreds of leads of day, you're losing the ability to call a TON of leads that you'd be able to call with another, faster, CRM.
I personally would give Chime and F... also customer service is very poor. I would give KVCore a B.. and give Follow-up Boss a C. Chime is too techy for most agents with poor customer service.
So FUB doesn’t provide leads, just pulls from sources you need to provide. I don’t like the fact Lofty outsourced to CCP dictatorship for confidentiality, privacy of North American client data BUT seems like Lofty provides the best features & automatic lead generation? These CRMs are all confusing enough, I appreciate your review. Aside from websites (which is a trap into their ecosystem) who offers the most real world, useful lead generation out of the box? That is who should be the best? Being able to call through platform is nice but not essential (have to pay more on FUB for that feature too). The whole point of a CRM is who is the best at providing leads, then also having an easy to use, efficient user experience?
There is a lot to unpack in this comment, but in short: 1. The best "lead generation out of the box" in our opinion is rarely the best solution. Anything that applies to all agents means that you will blend in with the noise because you are doing what everyone else is doing. Will it generate some leads? Likely, but getting the lead is not even half the battle. 2. We also don't believe the best CRM is the one that is best at providing leads. A CRM is meant to manage the leads, manage your processes, and stay organized within your sales system/nurturing ecosystem. Certain features/user experience points are definitely important to consider because they will help you in that process, but our philosophy is that lead generation and CRMs are two different discussions. In our experience, real estate software that is "good" at everything is never "amazing" at each individual thing. As a result, agents end up leaving tens of thousands on the table because they want to save a few hundred.
If you have other questions, we have a real estate marketing community where you can ask our team/other realtors for their insight. Here's the link to sign up: agntlnch.co/signup
Most agents have multiple lead sources, so FUB’s ability to easily consolidate all your sources into one place is a big selling point. Some CRMs also offer lead generation services, but that often comes with very little control and visibility for the agent as far as ad campaigns being run.
Not exactly. The main point of a CRM is to manage your leads and stay organized within your sales systems. Most agents have multiple lead sources, so FUB’s ability to easily consolidate all your sources into one place is a big selling point. There are CRMs that also offer lead generation services, but that often comes with very little control and visibility for the agent as far as ad campaigns being run.
I am with kvCore and their support is the worst ever! I like the CRM itself but that's the only one I have used so far so... I have done a bit research on FUB and I like it so far. I dont want to use two CRMs (updating leads, saved searches etc on both..). One would use FUB with Sierra because Sierra offers website. Is that all? If so, can I not get an IDX website done? Thank you
agent locator doesn't open the hood either, also agent locator CRM did get no talk about their CRM and then you pin Ado's comment from Agent locator, mmmmmm is this a little favouritism?
Think you might be reading into it too much... Pinned the comment because we appreciate when companies are willing to listen to feedback. 2024 version of this video dropping tomorrow.
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Loved this video! And I like so much about my chime, too, but you are spot on about support. More often than not, I even feel like they're gaslighting me on stupid issues. It's not a good look for them, and if more videos like this one come out, we'll all start learning about alternatives, but for now, what I like about chime, I love and I'm staying put.
Thanks for your feedback about AgentLocator Eric, consider it done :) we've merged the lead gen platform with our branded platform as well and are now launching all new clients on the new platform. We will upgrade all existing clients as well from the branded legacy system to the new platform as well. Also, we have VOW access (Sold data for: Toronto, Ottawa & Calgary) + we are working on others sold data feeds across Canada & the USA.
Thanks for being available and taking feedback!!
This review is spot on. I had Chime for 3 years. Had some great tools but the support was not good and the system was hard for the agents to learn a flow. Plus it seemed like they wanted to keep you in there all in one and add additional charges for new add-ons.
I switched from Chime to Ylopo/FUB and have had a great experience with FUB, ylopo not ao much. 6 months later i have cancelled and moved over to Sierra Interactive amd still using FUB.
I have a call scheduled with your company this week to discuss ppc, etc.
Hey, that's awesome!
Hi, have you used placester?
@@tiffanyjlovesold I have not used it before.
Wow! This is fantastic video, keep up the great content!
Great video! Saved me hours of research. Thank you 😊
Glad it helped!
I used Real Geeks for almost 10 years. They have had so many backend technical problems over the last 12-18 months, I will be leaving them. To their credit, their tech support does answer me within 24 hours, but solutions are short lived and continuous. I went from a raving fan to absolutely not recommending them. I am leaning towards SI at this point and just have a little more research to do before making a decision. Moving all the data over...not looking forward to that.
Good luck!!
Can you elaborate more
New Agent, I have to choose between KVcore and CHIME...but I do want to eventually want to explore more tools.. Thanks for this list
Glad it helped
I really want to cry right now. Why didn't I see this video BEFORE I signed that KvCore agreement 4 days ago? 😭😭 Already see soooo much problems with KvCore and everything they said in this video is spot on! I see why they don't offer a free trial because its horrible! I feel trapped! Like I was sent to prison for the next 14 months! over $1000 per month for something that doesn't work for me AT ALL! I wish I could get out of this agreement!!!
Is there a grace period that allows you to cancel and refund if you’re not happy?
I don’t think so. I don’t see it in the agreement and customer service is giving me the run around
welcome to the club!!
Why wasn’t boom town included ? Thoughts on boom town vs sierra ? Thanks
Boomtown doesn’t get our stamp of approval unfortunately. It’s another “all in one” website + CRM, but the sites are slow and not optimized for lead generation. Sierra would be the better option if want a website that converts well, and offers a more advanced backend CRM.
Great video! If using FUB, what IDX what you recommend on a woedpress site built with Elementor?
Showcase is the best
I have been a FollowUpBoss/Ylopo use her for about 2 1/2 years. Very happy with FollowUpBoss. I’ve been exploring options to replace ylopo so I was glad to find your video. I am exploring, reel geeks and real Scout. If you have any input on real Scout, I would appreciate that.
Great to hear!
Follow Up Boss is owned by Zillow who can take all your client’s emails as their target audience to market directly to them. Read the fine print in their agreement.
I would bet they already have 99% of these emails.
For folks in Ontario would you recommend going for 'Agent Locator + Follow Up Boss' OR 'Sierra Interactive + Follow Up Boss'?
Yep
What do you guys use and recommend. I like th FUB, but what's the best IDX to use with that in Ontario.
We usually recommend Real Geeks - but in Ontario Agent Locator is also a great option!
Great video thank you! I actually have an idx website with agent locator but they also charge their management fee of about 20% whenever you increase your budget. Should i run my own google ad budget through their website, or should I do a real geeks + follow up or sierra ? Thank you!
Hey Renzo, don't want to give you too much advice without knowing your situation. If you want to book a call with our team we'd be happy to give you some advice - www.agentlaunch.com/book
This was really helpful. I'm currently using FUB with Sierra but use both CRMs for different things, which is a bit cumbersome. I'm just not ready to dump FUB it's too good. Do you think using FUB with Sierra makes sense? or should I drop FUB?
Yes the best option would be use FUB with Sierra! They integrate well, but there are some functions you will still have to do in Sierra. Like updating leads saved searches.
@@ericbpreston Yep! That's what I'm doing. I wish Sierra wasn't so clunky. Do you feel there is a website IDX only service that would be better if using FUB as the CRM? I was going to use Ylopo but your video took that off the list.
Showcase IDX is good for this.. but not 1000% optimized for google ads yet we haeve found@@kimdevlinteam
Okay, yes I had diverse solution with Agent Fire but hated the searching capabilities. Sierra is much better. Thanks for the info.@@ericbpreston
We use FUB with Sierra and it works beautifully.
So, if I use FUB for CRM who do I use for Website?
Real Geeks, Sierra, or Lofty are our top choices
What is the best option to get 50 qualified leads per month with IDX website and CRM ?
Great information in this video, Eric! Thank you for your work. What is your opinion for GoHighLevel CRM?
Good for marketers, but can be complex to use. Not a tool I'd recommend for a real estate agent unless oyu want to build complex funnels.
Hello Eric, what are your thoughts on using iNCOM's website will follow up boss ? What are your thoughts on Agent Locator in Calgary ? Appreciate your help.
Incom websites do integrate with follow up boss, but haven’t worked well for Google or PPC unfortunately! As for Agent Locator, we’ve only worked with Toronto agents using that one, but it works well very there for PPC, so would definitely give it a try for Calgary.
Thank you very much. I will be in touch again once I have a higher budget for ppc. @@ericbpreston
One of my main functionalities I use is putting my leads on custom home searches so they receive the newest listings daily. How is that done with FUB? Or is it not possible?
Its done via the IDX site, not FUB - but the activity they take should transfer into FUB.
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Hi Eric,which company would be a great option for lead generation?
Book a call with our team at agentlaunch.com/book and see if there's an opportunity for us to work together!
Can I ask a really stupid question? I like the idea of using RG and FUB together but think I like SI better. I am not sure what I am basing that on. Does RG have landing pages for funnels or is that FUB? But FUB doesn't have websites so I assume you can't do funnels?? Do you need an idx for Google leads or ads? would FUB and click funnels make some sense? Is RG the best due to speed? I need a 4-hour class to digest all of the options. I am in a new market with some cold leads and zero sphere. So digital marketing is super important to me. I am also a brokerage owner, not sure that matters a lot.
I mean, if you want to build funnels I'd use something different, bit thats a whole can of worms as I'd ask what is the purpose of the funnel first? SI will work as your website/crm just fine! For funnels, we use HighLevel, I have a link in the description. But honeslty, I wouldn't go down that path alone.
Also, be sure to register for my live webinar this week if you liked this, it's going to be awesome, and we talk about webinar funnels specifically! agentlaunch.com/webinar
Did you check out Cloze?
If the CRM isn’t on this list, we don’t recommend it
:/
So, sounds like you're suggesting using FUB for the CRM and RG for the website? Correct?
Yes! We have the majority of our clients using those two platforms together, RG for their website and FUB for their CRM
;)
@@ericbpreston So, I recently hooked up w/RG and am in the process of setting everything up now. Now, I'm 2ndguessing myself on whether I should buy into FUB too??? Is it really worth another $1k/yr??
Command?
Sierra is amazing...but it's SLOW AS HELL. I've used it for a year and a half, and moving from one lead to another takes 5-15 seconds. If you're calling hundreds of leads of day, you're losing the ability to call a TON of leads that you'd be able to call with another, faster, CRM.
Can you have Sierra Interactive CRM without the website? We already have a website and need a crm only.
If that is the case, we really recommend Follow-Up Boss.
Good info ✔️
Thanks 👍
Great info. My brokerage supplies Boomtown to us. Would be interesting to know how it stacks up in this list too.
Zillow just bought FUB! Time to look for something else.
I know...not the first one to think this
Let's see what happens
Real Geeks or Sierra for just PPC lead gen?
Both are great for PPC
I personally would give Chime and F... also customer service is very poor. I would give KVCore a B.. and give Follow-up Boss a C. Chime is too techy for most agents with poor customer service.
Thanks for your take!
So FUB doesn’t provide leads, just pulls from sources you need to provide. I don’t like the fact Lofty outsourced to CCP dictatorship for confidentiality, privacy of North American client data BUT seems like Lofty provides the best features & automatic lead generation? These CRMs are all confusing enough, I appreciate your review. Aside from websites (which is a trap into their ecosystem) who offers the most real world, useful lead generation out of the box? That is who should be the best? Being able to call through platform is nice but not essential (have to pay more on FUB for that feature too). The whole point of a CRM is who is the best at providing leads, then also having an easy to use, efficient user experience?
There is a lot to unpack in this comment, but in short:
1. The best "lead generation out of the box" in our opinion is rarely the best solution. Anything that applies to all agents means that you will blend in with the noise because you are doing what everyone else is doing. Will it generate some leads? Likely, but getting the lead is not even half the battle.
2. We also don't believe the best CRM is the one that is best at providing leads. A CRM is meant to manage the leads, manage your processes, and stay organized within your sales system/nurturing ecosystem. Certain features/user experience points are definitely important to consider because they will help you in that process, but our philosophy is that lead generation and CRMs are two different discussions. In our experience, real estate software that is "good" at everything is never "amazing" at each individual thing. As a result, agents end up leaving tens of thousands on the table because they want to save a few hundred.
If you have other questions, we have a real estate marketing community where you can ask our team/other realtors for their insight. Here's the link to sign up: agntlnch.co/signup
Most agents have multiple lead sources, so FUB’s ability to easily consolidate all your sources into one place is a big selling point. Some CRMs also offer lead generation services, but that often comes with very little control and visibility for the agent as far as ad campaigns being run.
Not exactly.
The main point of a CRM is to manage your leads and stay organized within your sales systems. Most agents have multiple lead sources, so FUB’s ability to easily consolidate all your sources into one place is a big selling point. There are CRMs that also offer lead generation services, but that often comes with very little control and visibility for the agent as far as ad campaigns being run.
What do you think of Brivity?
Brivity is terrible
Avoid at all costs
Thank you!
@@ericbpreston
So Sierra with Follow Up Boss should be $$$$? 🤔
I just made the switch from Ylopo/FUB to Sierra Interactive/FUB. I can say everything they said about these platforms are spot on from my experience.
How Does Agentfire compare to Real Geeks?
If the CRM isn’t on this list, we don’t recommend it
I am with kvCore and their support is the worst ever! I like the CRM itself but that's the only one I have used so far so... I have done a bit research on FUB and I like it so far. I dont want to use two CRMs (updating leads, saved searches etc on both..). One would use FUB with Sierra because Sierra offers website. Is that all? If so, can I not get an IDX website done? Thank you
Sierra you could use on it's own, FUB is good paired with RG. FUB is great!
I don't understand why Chime support sucks so bad for the price and the competition out there
I hear you... :/
I really want to connect with you and utilize your services to get my follow up boss and real geeks accounts.
Hey Christine, book a call with me at agentlaunch.com/book
I like LPT BUT HATE THE CRM USE of LOFTY. There is no support at all and you are at the bottom of the support team even if they get back to you.
yep... we hear this often
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agent locator doesn't open the hood either, also agent locator CRM did get no talk about their CRM and then you pin Ado's comment from Agent locator, mmmmmm is this a little favouritism?
Think you might be reading into it too much... Pinned the comment because we appreciate when companies are willing to listen to feedback.
2024 version of this video dropping tomorrow.
Lofty is a piece of junk and their Chinese support desk is sooooooo slow. Don't waste your time or energy. It really will make you so pissed off.
I loved seeing @hayleyopoka7472 in this one!
Maybe we can convince her to do more…
@@ericbpreston we’d have to clear it with Penny… 🐶