As a Finn I can say thats a proper looking Sauna and typical finnish landscape. Excellent video! Nice atmosphere! I really appreciate your attitude to explore real finnish things and meet finnish people!
Glad you enjoyed it! We always start with similar type videos to every new country- because new stuff is exciting/interesting. Sports, history, culture, supermarket tour, food etc. But, after a few videos people start to reach out. So, we are really glad Janne reached out. What a great experience for us. Local experiences are typically our best memories :) , and in this case it is definitely true!
@@JetLagWarriors Im sitting outside, sun is shining while im eating delicious Salmiakki ice cream edit. and ouh forgot to mention that Sauna is heating up, inspired by you decided to 'take' vappusauna
@@JetLagWarriors You've had the perfect combo here. 1: Make videos of Finnish hockey 2: Become celebrities. 3. Be invited to Tikis private area and when you're seen with him people are shouting "Hey JetLagWarriors", nothing about Mr Tikkanen xD 4. Many people have watched your videos and lot of people would like to show you Finnish hospitality and sauna by the lake is kind of the best we have here. I mean I was thinking would be fun to invite you to have a BBQ, but I didn't have sauna/lake so I thought it wouldn't be cool enough xD
As a finn I can say that the feet being cold is a typical problem of sauna, the trick is to put the exhaust air vent on the floor level so the entire sauna gets hot. Most saunas are built so that the exhaust air vent is on the top and that means the feet will be cold due to intake air cooling them down. The traditional sauna doesn't have a forced ventillation so you need to put the exhaust port on the top because of physics. But with modern approach you can use a fan to push the air out and have your feet warm also...
thank you Steve and Ivana for visiting me. Welcome again on Midsummer. let's sauna more and make "vihta" :) it brings a new, great element to sauna. (but it requires fresh birch leaves which are not available now)
The odor of the fresh vihta's green birch leafs is great as you beat yourself with it in the hot sauna. In the daylight of the mid summer night you can swim in the water as long as you please and listen across the calm water distant birds in the otherwise quiet daylight night.
Real appreciation for the simpler things is a huge thing. It is not saying "I'm going to meditate everyday / live an ascetic life / appreciate the simpler things." It is to really enjoy the things we have in life. Nobody can be happier than that.
Very much true. Fun fact: Finns were considered to be forest people like the native indians in America because we had similar traditions and a respect for the nature. The sweat lodges (or saunas) combined the cultures and there was a mutual respect between the indians and the finnish immigrants. That's why the indian tribes didn't destroy the finnish dwellings during the colonial wars.
Finnish sauna is about the best thing in the world. That experience, when you get out of a freezing lake, with heart pounding and skin all over your body prick and needles, and then you just sit on a bench wrapped in a towel, overlooking the lake and the most incredible, serene, zen feeling coming all over you - indescribable. It can´t be simulated it must be experienced in a real Finnish sauna.
Finally. I've seen so many foreigners making videos about Finnish saunas but they go alone. I think for the best experience you need a local to show you how we do it. Great job!
Yeah, I think we all Finns are happy that Steve and Ivana were shown such a nice place. Not every Finn lives by the lake, it's actually not that common.
The one thing that makes you both very likeable is your diplomatic tongue, very respectful. Also, seeing you just trying finnish things without much reluctance is suprising (plus admirable). :) Just wait when you get to experience Lapland in winter and in summer one day, you won't regret it, it's magical even for us finns. Summer come faster please...
It's not all sweat, your body is relatively speaking colder than ice cube in room temperature. So significant part is condensation and it's also reason why steam makes you feel the heat(doesn't actually increase temperature btw).
Oh, this is interesting information. I knew the water didn't increase the temperature per se, but I sort of misspoke. What I meant is the water makes the air more humid, so it feels hotter. Is that right? I am still learning the sauna , lol! The idea of condensation makes sense, though I didn't realize it until you taught me :) thanks
@@JetLagWarriors Yeah many people in Finland too don't know the physics of this because not all could pay enough attention in school physics classes which is understandable. I'll simplify this (Probably too much): As you throw water on the hot stones in Sauna, it takes a lot of heat into the phase shift from liquid to gas (2256 kJ for changing 1kg of 100C tater to 1kg of 100C steam) which is a lot when we compare it to raising the temperature by 1C (4.18 Joules = 0,00418 kj, 1C = 1/100th of the temperature range between solid and gas) and it is still huge amount compared to how much energy it takes to melt 1kg of frozen water to liquid (334 kJ). When that steam condenses back to water on your skin, is releasing all that phase shift energy right into you. That is what makes it feel so hot as the heat transfer from the surroundings into your body speeds up. Without the steam your body is slowing down the heat transfer by cooling the air that is against your skin. You can blow air on your own skin (Do not do this to others to avoid starting a fight) to feel how burning hot it becomes when that cool layer of air is removed. If you have questions, I'll try to answer. I have studied energy engineering but did not graduate because of health problems forced me to drop out.
@@JetLagWarriors The instant biting heat after pouring water on the stones comes almost entirely from condensation. The air gets temporarily oversaturated with water vapor which increase condensation a lot. That's why it feels like a spike of heat which slides down.
@@JetLagWarriors Higher the relaltive air humidity is the more it exchanges heat from surfaces like skin. Just like +30c temperature in middle of Spain can feel more bearable than the same +30c in Amazon rainforest.
Thank you Janne and family for being so kind and hospitable to Steve and Ivana. Finnish hospitality at its best!! What a great experience. Wonderful video!!
It lives a lot of finns in Canada and many of them have a sauna. Most of them live in Ontario around Thunder Bay. Chris Pronger is half finn. His mother is from Pori.
Grew up in Northern Minnesota, which also has a good number of Finns. In my small rural community, roughly 1 out of 5 people had Finnish ancestry. Both my parents spoke Finnish, and, of course, we had a sauna.
11:00 oh i can see that familiar redness in your eyes that i usually see after really good and hot sauna. i can tell that Janne was really versed at the ways of how to properly prepare and make a great wood burning sauna experience.
- "I can feel it in my ears". - "My ears are okay - but then again: I never listen". - "Don't put more water for now". *Throws more water on the stove!*
Finally you got to experience some actual Finland. Of course people will say in the comments that why you are wearing swimwear in a sauna, but we know it's because of cameras. Maybe you did it properly when the cameras were not on. This is TH-cam after all. Great video!
Yes, swimsuit for cameras. We could've done some video editing and blurred inappropriate-for-TH-cam areas, but we figured it will distract from the video. Make it look 18+ or something. Anyway, it was a great experience. :D We loved it
Shout out to Janne for making this happen! Maybe explore the weirdest saunas you could ever have? They are all in Finland. A ferris wheel sauna in Helsinki quickly comes to mind. There used to be a Burger King sauna too.
@@JetLagWarriors Although understandably it was for the video, it's completely okay to not be in the nude in sauna. It's one's choice. Sometimes people make it seem like it's a necessary thing to do in Finland but it isn't. Most finns do go to the sauna naked no matter what the company but it's ok to not do so. The most important thing is to enjoy it and not to be pressured into anything. Except maybe beating each other with birch branches, that is a must in the summer!
Never done lake dipping with Sauna since my parents never really liked cabins, but I've done plenty of snow dips during winter. The feeling is incredible, even the crazy pin & needles. From +90 to -30 is something.
Me too! When I was small, my parents had a hot tub in the backyard. So, a different experience from the sauna, but in the middle of winter we would run from the hot tub and do snow-angels (do Finnish people know what that is?) in the snow, and then back in the hot tub. Just great. Most intense pins and needs ever lol
sauna for most finns is very therapeutic. the idea is to shock your body between hot and cold - can be a shower or even an icy temperature lake. the bloodflow in your body is accelerated and after the experience you should feel very cleansed, refreshed and relaxed. after the sauna we usually drink water, beer, lonkero or such and eat something salty. the following night will be the best dreams you ever had (try to avoid excessive amounts of alcohol as both sauna and alcohol remove water and salts from your body)
Never tried a Finnish sauna, as I tend to not enjoy extreme temperatures, but this video made me wanna try it. Kudos to the nice friend of yours and congrats for him for the lovely lake house! And congrats to you, both, for the great news, somehow I seem to have skipped the video where you annonced it! :)
Some people like to boast how they were in a 110°C sauna for hours etc. But IMO the point of sauna is not to torture yourself completely. I usually start lightly, maybe throw 3-5 ladles of water within 10mins, then go cool down, then back to sauna and throw water according to how I feel. At the end, before stopping saunaing I do go a bit nuts and throw a ladle of water every 10-30seconds until I cant bear it anymore, then to shower, cool down, dress up and pass out. My point is, dont go crazy. Just throw the water according to how you feel. If you want to see how much heat you can take, do it on the last go. But going to sauna with the sole purpose of sitting in a too hot sauna and being tortured is for idiots. That said... 80°C should be the minimum temp lol.
@@JetLagWarriors yeah that bit was about 20% joke and 80% serious. Its tough to go into those temps as a first timer. I bet if you went to sauna like 3 times a week, after the first week you'd be sitting comfortably in 80°C's. I've sadly had months long pauses with saunaing and after a few months out, I cant just go back to the old ways and do a "proper" session, it takes a few tries to get back to the comfort levels. Btw, a side note. Check out youtube channel called Vanha Tampere, theres some old black and white footage of Tampere. Might be interesting for you guys to see how things have changed in 100 years
@@itseperkele181 For me, it needs to sting a bit. That's the best feeling in the world when you get out. If I'm alone, I never do under 100°C in electric or under 120°C in wooden sauna. Of course with friends or family, I can go lower than that. But the most important part is just to enjoy the sauna
You guys did it proper. It's always so heartwarming to see a foreign person get that noradrenaline and dopamine rush in their brain for the first time :) Steaming hot and cold in proper doses.. Then an ice cold beer and hearty food cause sauna makes you hungry like a wolf.. I'm so glad you did it with a Finn to show you exactly how it's done :)
Best video yet you made from finland in my opinion! Just loved the normal finnish cottage vibe which ive done myself multiple times, was just cool seeing actual proper finnish type cottage and you got to experience it almost fully! (Overnight staying is the next step you can either chill or just talk shit and have some beers after sauna for the night maybe jump to the river and go late night sauna also, maybe play some games outside like mölkky) 😂
@4:15 When you throw water on the stove (kiuas), it produces a puff of steam (löyly) which of course feels hot for a moment, but it actually just cools down the kiuas and the sauna, so you gotta keep adding wood every once in a while.
what a beautiful place! I'm glad you enjoyed the sauna, as a half finn born in Sweden, going to finland is always nice with the sauna and the grilling. It is odd tho going into the sauna with a bunch of naked men xD
In sauna, most of the water formed on your skin is not sweat, it's condensed steam. Your body is the coolest object in there so the water vaporized on the rocks likes to condensate on you. Which is also the source of the intense heat you feel because condensation releases the latent heat of the steam.
What a sweet video! I am glad that you met Janne, a friendly Finn who invited you to enjoy sauna! All the best for you all and a big hug to your beautiful wife!
I know the sauna - lake - sauna - lake is quite extreme for outsiders but I think you can't deny the relaxing feeling that came after that? That's why it's great for example after you have played hockey (or any sport).
Great to see you guys having a real Finnish experience and not only the big cities. If you have the opportunity some day to do sauna + ice dipping, trust me you wont regret it once you get up, the awesome feeling you had after swimming, imagine that x10.
Sauna is strangely extreme and meditative at the same time. Once you get used to the extremes nothing really phases you anymore, and you can feel right at home in both hot steam and cold waters.
i didnt see any comments about the sauna temperature and tossing water thus far and here is a correction to the misconception (~ 4:20 forward); when you toss water on the stones the actual temperature decreases in sauna-- it is the humidify that spikes and makes you feel the "heat wave" which is infact just conducting more heat from the air to yourself. Commonly i find most men are saunaing in the ~80-100 oC and women in the 60-80 oC (in mixed saunas it isnt uncommon to see women sitting at the lower benches, same for the children). The +-5 oC increments in the sauna vastly differes the experience so does the overall humidity, so being in 65oC and 85 oC are entirely different experiences. The higher temperatures usually make the "heat wave" more snappier and stronger amplitude whereas in the lower temps its more mild. Same goes with the humidity; the more humid it is the more mild the löyly will be. This is the reasons usually women and children go to sauna first before men when using woodstove vs the electric sauna where the temperature control is slower. For the ears part on ~7:50 ish ; the circulation at the tip of your ears is classic one of the parts that will first burn if you dont have enough fluids (or you have been doing sauna and alcohol for too long) and rubbing at them will help to stimulate the bloodflow. If youre starting to feel pain aside of the part when youre tossing water on the stones; it is a good sign to step out and cooldown a bit otherwise you will have a possibility to burn the skin and have some damage to the earlobes (been there done that). One tip to avoid huge amplitude in the humidity when tossing water is to spread it out evenly and kind of "pour it slowly and evenly" over the different stones to get more even löyly experience. Traditional saunas also have vihta wich is basicly just a bundle of birch branches with leaves and you whip yourself with it to increase bloodflow to your back and other parts. I hope these quick little tips are informal and helpful to the nonfins and loved the video! have an ice weekend.
In my travels I had a couple of unexpected Sauna experiences, in Lima Peru to my absolute surprise there was a real Sauna (electric/stones) in our hotel room bathroom that I enjoyed very much not having had the opportunity for several years. Also in New Delhi at a hotel where I stayed they closed the rooftop pool and opened up a steam Sauna once the outdoor temperature dropped below +30C, very nice 🙂 Currently I'm installing a Sauna in my house as part of a renovation project that will comfortably seat 6 people 👍
For sure that was a very typical finnish experience. Janne seems like a very regular Finn, i can just tell. His place is close to nature, lake and birches, classic Finland. Sauna and swimming, the hot and cold relaxation treatment, even with makkara on the kiuas... Can someone think of something more finnish?
First time ever on vlogs from people that are not from Finland i can agree that this is the proper introduction to our sauna coultur. Thanks for Janne as well!
I am pleasantly surprised that you commented to the landscape, i wanted to hear that, the landscape is similar to Sweden too, and i felt home, and i wanted to know if Canada landscape was the same.
Actually löyly doesnt raise temperature but humidity and that tranfsers heat better, thus feeling hotter. And sauna lake combo is good for your health and mind. Our longest sessions are easily 5 or 6 hours, remember hydration
It’s actually other way around. When you toss water on the stove, temperature drops. And when you don’t throw water and add more wood, then temperature rises.
Oh, right. What I meant was when you drop water on the stove, the water in the sauna will feel hotter, on your skin. Because it's more, humid, I guess? I think that's right
Steam does actually little to the sauna temperature. When water turns to steam, it gets its energy to phase change to steam from the hot stones. Steam contains more energy than same temperature water. When steam is condensating in he surface of your skin, it gives that energy back. So you can feel it hot in your skin. But actually few desiliters of water has not so much energy to change the whole room temperature. But too much steam might burn, so you have to know what you are doing. Always start carefully, you can add more steam later😂
That was really superfinnish activity. Nice that you got invited and got that experience. We have joked for years with my friends that a real sauna is heated by firewood and electric sauna is just a sauna simulator :D BTW, that water which appears on skin in sauna is mostly condensated from the steam in the air, not real sweat. That's because skin is dozens of degrees colder than the air.
I loved the Donald Duck comics (in Finnish "Aku Ankka" in the sauna building. Many Finns learn to read from those comics. :) Love that you enjoyed sauna, you were brave for first timers in both the Finnish sauna and the ice cold lake! I prefer sauna around 80°C grades and I'm a Finn :) Some prefer 90-100C, definitely too hot for me to handle. Also, I usually only spend like 5-10 minutes in there.
great and comfy video, nice! For me if i dont go to sauna i sleep worse than if i did. Really awesome after workday or a very active day. btw best time of a year is the midsummer day if you experience it with a finn
bless you to have this really Finnish experiment, to know how we are spendin our holidays and most weekends, at summer water would be easyer and nature beautifull
Great experience for sure! Glad you enjoyed and nice Jani having you guys ❤ If you guys will be here in Finland in June, I have a friend who has a farm near in Helsinki, where is sheeps, old style house and sauna next by the lake. Lets figure something out together if ya are interested!😊
It's a funny thing, but foreigners look a lot more Finnish after sauna. No matter where they are from. Wherever Finns go, they will build saunas, and they have gone to Canada, so there are saunas in Canada too: "Sharing the Finnish sauna culture in the great outdoors of B.C. | Vancouver Sun". Also, sauna is gaining popularity around the world: "Saunalife G6 Modern Outdoor Sauna - Feature Overview". A video on Finnish sauna culture: "UNESCO Sauna culture in Finland". First swim after winter is way to get writ of ones winter fur.
If you decide to come back to Finland at some point, you should check out the Finnish archipelago and Åland in the summer, and Lapland's ruska in the fall.
we have just a small electric sauna in our house so it is usually heated just over 60 degree but the steem is not coming soft and it wouldn't be nice if it was hotter, it just needs little bit of water before it even feels like sauna cause it is only 60 degree, but in bigger saunas or wood heated saunas I prefer 90-100 degree. nicely done video and nice to see you digging into finnish culture and traditions keep it up and I will stay along the ride in the future.
The water doesn't make the sauna hotter, it only makes the heat feel more because water is a better heat transmitter than air. The stove is responsible for the temperature :)
That sausage is saunamakkara/kiuasmakkara/, depends on region in Finland. Glad u liked it. Btw in Tampere there is this sausage called "Höyry" wich is steamed sausage. Basically same as the saunamakkara but it is near nowhere for that.
That was a real good Finnish sauna experience! Proper setting, great sauna, great heat... 80-90 celsius isn't that bad what you might think, but sure for someone not so used to it, it feels hot. Especially when throwing water, when the steam really transfers that heat on to your skin. Some like to go even to 110-120 but that's usually not so relaxing anymore :D but it sure is an experience too, and makes your skin glow :D
Yeah the clothes is an obvious thing but, WHAT! 80-90 is very hot LOL. We are now at an accommodation with a sauna in it, and we use it everyday but, still less than 80 LOL
@@JetLagWarriors well 80-90 is the goal for most finns when they go to sauna, when you are wet, even 60 feels a bit chilly :) but i meant often ppl think you cant even survive 90 if they have no experience on sauna
Now you know why Sauna is considered as "holy" in Finland 😁 At my aunts ranch it's a daily activity to heat up the wooden Sauna (they have both wooden and electric, but the electric haven't been used in years) at around 8 pm. Washing also happens with no shower or any running water. Hot water is heated within the Sauna stove and mixed with a cold well water to the wanted temperature. I've always preferred this way of cleaning myself. The experience would be even more genuinely Finnish if it was summer and you had "Vihta", which is practically just bundle of birch sticks with leaves on and it's drenched in cold water and whipped on your back. It might sound crazy, but it feels so damn good and helps with the surface level blood circulation a lot.
As a Finn I can say thats a proper looking Sauna and typical finnish landscape. Excellent video! Nice atmosphere! I really appreciate your attitude to explore real finnish things and meet finnish people!
Glad you enjoyed it! We always start with similar type videos to every new country- because new stuff is exciting/interesting. Sports, history, culture, supermarket tour, food etc. But, after a few videos people start to reach out. So, we are really glad Janne reached out. What a great experience for us. Local experiences are typically our best memories :) , and in this case it is definitely true!
@@JetLagWarriors Im sitting outside, sun is shining while im eating delicious Salmiakki ice cream edit. and ouh forgot to mention that Sauna is heating up, inspired by you decided to 'take' vappusauna
@@JetLagWarriors You've had the perfect combo here. 1: Make videos of Finnish hockey 2: Become celebrities. 3. Be invited to Tikis private area and when you're seen with him people are shouting "Hey JetLagWarriors", nothing about Mr Tikkanen xD 4. Many people have watched your videos and lot of people would like to show you Finnish hospitality and sauna by the lake is kind of the best we have here. I mean I was thinking would be fun to invite you to have a BBQ, but I didn't have sauna/lake so I thought it wouldn't be cool enough xD
Great stuff
As a finn I can say that the feet being cold is a typical problem of sauna, the trick is to put the exhaust air vent on the floor level so the entire sauna gets hot. Most saunas are built so that the exhaust air vent is on the top and that means the feet will be cold due to intake air cooling them down. The traditional sauna doesn't have a forced ventillation so you need to put the exhaust port on the top because of physics. But with modern approach you can use a fan to push the air out and have your feet warm also...
thank you Steve and Ivana for visiting me. Welcome again on Midsummer. let's sauna more and make "vihta" :) it brings a new, great element to sauna. (but it requires fresh birch leaves which are not available now)
Hey, thanks so much for the invite!! We really loved the experience. The comments are full of people thanking you! You represented Finland well :) .
The odor of the fresh vihta's green birch leafs is great as you beat yourself with it in the hot sauna. In the daylight of the mid summer night you can swim in the water as long as you please and listen across the calm water distant birds in the otherwise quiet daylight night.
Hyvä Janne!
This is prob a reason for finnish happiness.. Just a lake, a cold beer and a hot sauna. Appreciation for the simpler things.
Real appreciation for the simpler things is a huge thing. It is not saying "I'm going to meditate everyday / live an ascetic life / appreciate the simpler things." It is to really enjoy the things we have in life. Nobody can be happier than that.
@@kv6uf Exactly, you don't really have to do anything, you just relax and take in the things you already have and appreciate them
@@DerMacko you can spend that, but i've got the same overall things and paid 70k
Very much true. Fun fact: Finns were considered to be forest people like the native indians in America because we had similar traditions and a respect for the nature. The sweat lodges (or saunas) combined the cultures and there was a mutual respect between the indians and the finnish immigrants. That's why the indian tribes didn't destroy the finnish dwellings during the colonial wars.
@@Munakas-wq3gp On the other hand finns were considered as simple minded aggressive mongoloids. Some bars even had signs 'No indians or Finns'
Kiitos Janne!
Huge kiitos to Janne!! What a great memory for us :)
Finnish sauna is about the best thing in the world. That experience, when you get out of a freezing lake, with heart pounding and skin all over your body prick and needles, and then you just sit on a bench wrapped in a towel, overlooking the lake and the most incredible, serene, zen feeling coming all over you - indescribable. It can´t be simulated it must be experienced in a real Finnish sauna.
And mid winter hole in ice and the Water under is 2-4C and now it was 8C. It feels the same.
You guys are proper Finns now, I had a big smile on my face while watching this one.
Proper finns totally sauna beer sausage and mustard what else you need :D
Jannelle hattu päästä! Asiallista näyttää ulkomaalaisille ehtaa suomimenoa!
Finally. I've seen so many foreigners making videos about Finnish saunas but they go alone. I think for the best experience you need a local to show you how we do it. Great job!
How fantastic that someone was willing to give you the proper sauna experience!
Good job Janne for inviting Steve and Ivana!
Yeah, I think we all Finns are happy that Steve and Ivana were shown such a nice place. Not every Finn lives by the lake, it's actually not that common.
@@mjolio Yup, but almost everybody knows someone living by a lake. Or having a cottage there! And public saunas...
This is definitely the most Finnish travel video in Finland i've ever seen.
The one thing that makes you both very likeable is your diplomatic tongue, very respectful. Also, seeing you just trying finnish things without much reluctance is suprising (plus admirable). :) Just wait when you get to experience Lapland in winter and in summer one day, you won't regret it, it's magical even for us finns. Summer come faster please...
Janne is now a hall of famer host for his hospitality. May only good things happen to him.
It's not all sweat, your body is relatively speaking colder than ice cube in room temperature. So significant part is condensation and it's also reason why steam makes you feel the heat(doesn't actually increase temperature btw).
Oh, this is interesting information. I knew the water didn't increase the temperature per se, but I sort of misspoke. What I meant is the water makes the air more humid, so it feels hotter. Is that right? I am still learning the sauna , lol! The idea of condensation makes sense, though I didn't realize it until you taught me :) thanks
@@JetLagWarriors Yeah many people in Finland too don't know the physics of this because not all could pay enough attention in school physics classes which is understandable.
I'll simplify this (Probably too much): As you throw water on the hot stones in Sauna, it takes a lot of heat into the phase shift from liquid to gas (2256 kJ for changing 1kg of 100C tater to 1kg of 100C steam) which is a lot when we compare it to raising the temperature by 1C (4.18 Joules = 0,00418 kj, 1C = 1/100th of the temperature range between solid and gas) and it is still huge amount compared to how much energy it takes to melt 1kg of frozen water to liquid (334 kJ).
When that steam condenses back to water on your skin, is releasing all that phase shift energy right into you. That is what makes it feel so hot as the heat transfer from the surroundings into your body speeds up. Without the steam your body is slowing down the heat transfer by cooling the air that is against your skin. You can blow air on your own skin (Do not do this to others to avoid starting a fight) to feel how burning hot it becomes when that cool layer of air is removed.
If you have questions, I'll try to answer. I have studied energy engineering but did not graduate because of health problems forced me to drop out.
@@JetLagWarriors The instant biting heat after pouring water on the stones comes almost entirely from condensation. The air gets temporarily oversaturated with water vapor which increase condensation a lot. That's why it feels like a spike of heat which slides down.
well once i weighted myself before sauna.. i was there for 30 minutes or so and lost 800 grams of waterweight an got headaache afterwards
@@JetLagWarriors Higher the relaltive air humidity is the more it exchanges heat from surfaces like skin. Just like +30c temperature in middle of Spain can feel more bearable than the same +30c in Amazon rainforest.
Thank you Janne and family for being so kind and hospitable to Steve and Ivana. Finnish hospitality at its best!! What a great experience. Wonderful video!!
It lives a lot of finns in Canada and many of them have a sauna. Most of them live in Ontario around Thunder Bay. Chris Pronger is half finn. His mother is from Pori.
Grew up in Northern Minnesota, which also has a good number of Finns. In my small rural community, roughly 1 out of 5 people had Finnish ancestry. Both my parents spoke Finnish, and, of course, we had a sauna.
FINALLY IN TO THE SAUNA
As a Swed I love this tradition from Finland, Sauna FTW :D
11:00 oh i can see that familiar redness in your eyes that i usually see after really good and hot sauna.
i can tell that Janne was really versed at the ways of how to properly prepare and make a great wood burning sauna experience.
Kiitos Janne hyvästä huolenpidosta! Kaunis sauna ja talo teillä👍🏻
Sauna, sausage, mustard, cold beer.....I'm in❤.
- "I can feel it in my ears".
- "My ears are okay - but then again: I never listen".
- "Don't put more water for now".
*Throws more water on the stove!*
Nice. Today it's almost summer now in southern Finland. Janne was aww to invite you guys at their home.
I am glad you got to experience the classic finnish experience with sauna, lake, sausages in the sauna and cold beer. It really is amazing
Finally you got to experience some actual Finland. Of course people will say in the comments that why you are wearing swimwear in a sauna, but we know it's because of cameras. Maybe you did it properly when the cameras were not on. This is TH-cam after all. Great video!
Yes, swimsuit for cameras. We could've done some video editing and blurred inappropriate-for-TH-cam areas, but we figured it will distract from the video. Make it look 18+ or something. Anyway, it was a great experience. :D We loved it
Shout out to Janne for making this happen! Maybe explore the weirdest saunas you could ever have? They are all in Finland. A ferris wheel sauna in Helsinki quickly comes to mind. There used to be a Burger King sauna too.
@@JetLagWarriors Although understandably it was for the video, it's completely okay to not be in the nude in sauna. It's one's choice. Sometimes people make it seem like it's a necessary thing to do in Finland but it isn't. Most finns do go to the sauna naked no matter what the company but it's ok to not do so. The most important thing is to enjoy it and not to be pressured into anything. Except maybe beating each other with birch branches, that is a must in the summer!
Never done lake dipping with Sauna since my parents never really liked cabins, but I've done plenty of snow dips during winter. The feeling is incredible, even the crazy pin & needles. From +90 to -30 is something.
Me too! When I was small, my parents had a hot tub in the backyard. So, a different experience from the sauna, but in the middle of winter we would run from the hot tub and do snow-angels (do Finnish people know what that is?) in the snow, and then back in the hot tub. Just great. Most intense pins and needs ever lol
@@JetLagWarriors Yup, it's well known here. I pretty much always did snow angels during it 😁
@@JetLagWarriors Sauna, hot tub AND lake is pretty freaking awesome
@@JetLagWarriors Our kids learn snow angels at the age 2 :D
sauna for most finns is very therapeutic. the idea is to shock your body between hot and cold - can be a shower or even an icy temperature lake. the bloodflow in your body is accelerated and after the experience you should feel very cleansed, refreshed and relaxed. after the sauna we usually drink water, beer, lonkero or such and eat something salty. the following night will be the best dreams you ever had (try to avoid excessive amounts of alcohol as both sauna and alcohol remove water and salts from your body)
Never tried a Finnish sauna, as I tend to not enjoy extreme temperatures, but this video made me wanna try it. Kudos to the nice friend of yours and congrats for him for the lovely lake house!
And congrats to you, both, for the great news, somehow I seem to have skipped the video where you annonced it! :)
Some people like to boast how they were in a 110°C sauna for hours etc. But IMO the point of sauna is not to torture yourself completely. I usually start lightly, maybe throw 3-5 ladles of water within 10mins, then go cool down, then back to sauna and throw water according to how I feel. At the end, before stopping saunaing I do go a bit nuts and throw a ladle of water every 10-30seconds until I cant bear it anymore, then to shower, cool down, dress up and pass out.
My point is, dont go crazy. Just throw the water according to how you feel. If you want to see how much heat you can take, do it on the last go. But going to sauna with the sole purpose of sitting in a too hot sauna and being tortured is for idiots.
That said... 80°C should be the minimum temp lol.
LOL 80 minumim? That is hot for me!! I think we did one ~90 and it was cooking my brain lolollll
@@JetLagWarriors yeah that bit was about 20% joke and 80% serious. Its tough to go into those temps as a first timer. I bet if you went to sauna like 3 times a week, after the first week you'd be sitting comfortably in 80°C's. I've sadly had months long pauses with saunaing and after a few months out, I cant just go back to the old ways and do a "proper" session, it takes a few tries to get back to the comfort levels.
Btw, a side note. Check out youtube channel called Vanha Tampere, theres some old black and white footage of Tampere. Might be interesting for you guys to see how things have changed in 100 years
@@itseperkele181 For me, it needs to sting a bit. That's the best feeling in the world when you get out. If I'm alone, I never do under 100°C in electric or under 120°C in wooden sauna. Of course with friends or family, I can go lower than that. But the most important part is just to enjoy the sauna
@@kristiankoski3908 yup, enjoynment is the key. My dad also prefers hotter löyly but he waits for others to exit before doing his thing.
You guys did it proper. It's always so heartwarming to see a foreign person get that noradrenaline and dopamine rush in their brain for the first time :) Steaming hot and cold in proper doses.. Then an ice cold beer and hearty food cause sauna makes you hungry like a wolf.. I'm so glad you did it with a Finn to show you exactly how it's done :)
Best video yet you made from finland in my opinion! Just loved the normal finnish cottage vibe which ive done myself multiple times, was just cool seeing actual proper finnish type cottage and you got to experience it almost fully! (Overnight staying is the next step you can either chill or just talk shit and have some beers after sauna for the night maybe jump to the river and go late night sauna also, maybe play some games outside like mölkky) 😂
Hyvä Janne!! Asiallinen mesta ja varmasti jäi mieleen vieraille tää kokemus!!
I have watched almost all your recent videos but never clicked subscribe button until now. Really enjoy these!
@4:15 When you throw water on the stove (kiuas), it produces a puff of steam (löyly) which of course feels hot for a moment, but it actually just cools down the kiuas and the sauna, so you gotta keep adding wood every once in a while.
Yes, the feeling after sauna and swimming in the cold water is so relaxing!
Thats a proper way to do it, good job Janne and JetLag Warriors
what a beautiful place! I'm glad you enjoyed the sauna, as a half finn born in Sweden, going to finland is always nice with the sauna and the grilling. It is odd tho going into the sauna with a bunch of naked men xD
Great video again. I'm happy you guys enjoyed your time here in Finland!☺️ Already waiting for the Vappu video 😁
In sauna, most of the water formed on your skin is not sweat, it's condensed steam. Your body is the coolest object in there so the water vaporized on the rocks likes to condensate on you. Which is also the source of the intense heat you feel because condensation releases the latent heat of the steam.
What a sweet video! I am glad that you met Janne, a friendly Finn who invited you to enjoy sauna! All the best for you all and a big hug to your beautiful wife!
You two are practically Finnish now!
yes this is to be babtised to be a Fin
Awesome Work Steve 👍👍👍 Greetings from Helsinki, Finland🇫🇮🇨🇦🇫🇮🇨🇦
Janne did Tampere a solid. It such a welcoming chilled out place. Hope you guys enjoyed the Sauna. Probably going to the Tappara party next I guess.
thanks for showing our country !
Plenty of saunas in Canada!! Go to Tuuunder Bay!
I know the sauna - lake - sauna - lake is quite extreme for outsiders but I think you can't deny the relaxing feeling that came after that? That's why it's great for example after you have played hockey (or any sport).
Great to see you guys having a real Finnish experience and not only the big cities.
If you have the opportunity some day to do sauna + ice dipping, trust me you wont regret it once you get up, the awesome feeling you had after swimming, imagine that x10.
Sauna is strangely extreme and meditative at the same time. Once you get used to the extremes nothing really phases you anymore, and you can feel right at home in both hot steam and cold waters.
This is a good description! Strangely extreme and meditative. I will use this phrase from now on 👍
I'm so so happy for you Ivana and Steve, you got experienced sauna and cold lake in this way. I almost got tears in my eyes 🤗🤗🤗🤗
So happy that you get to experience something else than hockey arenas:)
i didnt see any comments about the sauna temperature and tossing water thus far and here is a correction to the misconception (~ 4:20 forward); when you toss water on the stones the actual temperature decreases in sauna-- it is the humidify that spikes and makes you feel the "heat wave" which is infact just conducting more heat from the air to yourself. Commonly i find most men are saunaing in the ~80-100 oC and women in the 60-80 oC (in mixed saunas it isnt uncommon to see women sitting at the lower benches, same for the children). The +-5 oC increments in the sauna vastly differes the experience so does the overall humidity, so being in 65oC and 85 oC are entirely different experiences. The higher temperatures usually make the "heat wave" more snappier and stronger amplitude whereas in the lower temps its more mild. Same goes with the humidity; the more humid it is the more mild the löyly will be. This is the reasons usually women and children go to sauna first before men when using woodstove vs the electric sauna where the temperature control is slower. For the ears part on ~7:50 ish ; the circulation at the tip of your ears is classic one of the parts that will first burn if you dont have enough fluids (or you have been doing sauna and alcohol for too long) and rubbing at them will help to stimulate the bloodflow. If youre starting to feel pain aside of the part when youre tossing water on the stones; it is a good sign to step out and cooldown a bit otherwise you will have a possibility to burn the skin and have some damage to the earlobes (been there done that). One tip to avoid huge amplitude in the humidity when tossing water is to spread it out evenly and kind of "pour it slowly and evenly" over the different stones to get more even löyly experience. Traditional saunas also have vihta wich is basicly just a bundle of birch branches with leaves and you whip yourself with it to increase bloodflow to your back and other parts. I hope these quick little tips are informal and helpful to the nonfins and loved the video! have an ice weekend.
Wow so nice experience for
In my travels I had a couple of unexpected Sauna experiences, in Lima Peru to my absolute surprise there was a real Sauna (electric/stones) in our hotel room bathroom that I enjoyed very much not having had the opportunity for several years.
Also in New Delhi at a hotel where I stayed they closed the rooftop pool and opened up a steam Sauna once the outdoor temperature dropped below +30C, very nice 🙂
Currently I'm installing a Sauna in my house as part of a renovation project that will comfortably seat 6 people 👍
throwing water on rocks makes the sauna colder or drop in temp. adding wood makes it hotter.
Glad you enjoyed!
For sure that was a very typical finnish experience. Janne seems like a very regular Finn, i can just tell. His place is close to nature, lake and birches, classic Finland. Sauna and swimming, the hot and cold relaxation treatment, even with makkara on the kiuas... Can someone think of something more finnish?
It's been estimated, there are about 2.6 million saunas in Finland with a population of 5.5 million.
First time ever on vlogs from people that are not from Finland i can agree that this is the proper introduction to our sauna coultur. Thanks for Janne as well!
I am pleasantly surprised that you commented to the landscape, i wanted to hear that, the landscape is similar to Sweden too, and i felt home, and i wanted to know if Canada landscape was the same.
Awesome to see you guys have a proper Finnish experience! GJ Janne!
What's your plan? How long do you think you're staying in Finland and where next?
We think Croatia next, unsure if that's true and if it is, when
So happy you had this very Finnish life experience ❤️❤️❤️
…that was very authentic Finnish experience (source: I’m a Finn). And I bet you felt like million bucks afterwards!
Tack Janne
It's not only sweat what's on your skin at sauna, part of it is condensation from the steam.
Actually löyly doesnt raise temperature but humidity and that tranfsers heat better, thus feeling hotter.
And sauna lake combo is good for your health and mind.
Our longest sessions are easily 5 or 6 hours, remember hydration
its nice that you experienced real finnish style of living!
Looks so fun! 🤗
It’s actually other way around. When you toss water on the stove, temperature drops. And when you don’t throw water and add more wood, then temperature rises.
Oh, right. What I meant was when you drop water on the stove, the water in the sauna will feel hotter, on your skin. Because it's more, humid, I guess? I think that's right
Steam does actually little to the sauna temperature. When water turns to steam, it gets its energy to phase change to steam from the hot stones. Steam contains more energy than same temperature water. When steam is condensating in he surface of your skin, it gives that energy back. So you can feel it hot in your skin. But actually few desiliters of water has not so much energy to change the whole room temperature. But too much steam might burn, so you have to know what you are doing. Always start carefully, you can add more steam later😂
That was really superfinnish activity. Nice that you got invited and got that experience. We have joked for years with my friends that a real sauna is heated by firewood and electric sauna is just a sauna simulator :D
BTW, that water which appears on skin in sauna is mostly condensated from the steam in the air, not real sweat. That's because skin is dozens of degrees colder than the air.
I loved the Donald Duck comics (in Finnish "Aku Ankka" in the sauna building. Many Finns learn to read from those comics. :)
Love that you enjoyed sauna, you were brave for first timers in both the Finnish sauna and the ice cold lake! I prefer sauna around 80°C grades and I'm a Finn :) Some prefer 90-100C, definitely too hot for me to handle. Also, I usually only spend like 5-10 minutes in there.
great and comfy video, nice! For me if i dont go to sauna i sleep worse than if i did. Really awesome after workday or a very active day. btw best time of a year is the midsummer day if you experience it with a finn
So Finnish video❤ love this.
bless you to have this really Finnish experiment, to know how we are spendin our holidays and most weekends, at summer water would be easyer and nature beautifull
Great experience for sure! Glad you enjoyed and nice Jani having you guys ❤
If you guys will be here in Finland in June, I have a friend who has a farm near in Helsinki, where is sheeps, old style house and sauna next by the lake. Lets figure something out together if ya are interested!😊
It's a funny thing, but foreigners look a lot more Finnish after sauna. No matter where they are from. Wherever Finns go, they will build saunas, and they have gone to Canada, so there are saunas in Canada too: "Sharing the Finnish sauna culture in the great outdoors of B.C. | Vancouver Sun". Also, sauna is gaining popularity around the world: "Saunalife G6 Modern Outdoor Sauna - Feature Overview". A video on Finnish sauna culture: "UNESCO Sauna culture in Finland". First swim after winter is way to get writ of ones winter fur.
So cool to see. 🎉 I have enjoyed your videos a lot!
i used to believe electric sauna was terrible, but they make some pretty decent ones nowadays. i guess the stove just has to be big enough.
If you decide to come back to Finland at some point, you should check out the Finnish archipelago and Åland in the summer, and Lapland's ruska in the fall.
I love that you got to experience this!
Hey, as you are into hockey, you should check out the U18 championship that is ongoing in Helsinki area and Canada is playing.
Janne you should pour a littlebit beer on the stove! 😁
we have just a small electric sauna in our house so it is usually heated just over 60 degree but the steem is not coming soft and it wouldn't be nice if it was hotter, it just needs little bit of water before it even feels like sauna cause it is only 60 degree, but in bigger saunas or wood heated saunas I prefer 90-100 degree.
nicely done video and nice to see you digging into finnish culture and traditions keep it up and I will stay along the ride in the future.
2:16 this man is in for a rude awakening VERY soon in his immediate future XD
The water doesn't make the sauna hotter, it only makes the heat feel more because water is a better heat transmitter than air. The stove is responsible for the temperature :)
Hyvä Janne! Kiitos että kutsuit heidät kylään
I can tell that sauna to the lake thing is as its best at midsummer nights!
There is nothing like having a beer on a summer eve next to a body of water right after Sauna. Pure bliss.
Love this video and everything about it!
Hauskaa Vappua🍺🇨🇦🇫🇮
That sausage is saunamakkara/kiuasmakkara/, depends on region in Finland. Glad u liked it. Btw in Tampere there is this sausage called "Höyry" wich is steamed sausage. Basically same as the saunamakkara but it is near nowhere for that.
That was a real good Finnish sauna experience! Proper setting, great sauna, great heat... 80-90 celsius isn't that bad what you might think, but sure for someone not so used to it, it feels hot. Especially when throwing water, when the steam really transfers that heat on to your skin. Some like to go even to 110-120 but that's usually not so relaxing anymore :D but it sure is an experience too, and makes your skin glow :D
A sidenote, usually everyone is ofc naked in sauna, but it's quite understandable that when you're not so familiar, you have something on.
Yeah the clothes is an obvious thing but, WHAT! 80-90 is very hot LOL. We are now at an accommodation with a sauna in it, and we use it everyday but, still less than 80 LOL
@@JetLagWarriors well 80-90 is the goal for most finns when they go to sauna, when you are wet, even 60 feels a bit chilly :) but i meant often ppl think you cant even survive 90 if they have no experience on sauna
Now you know why Sauna is considered as "holy" in Finland 😁
At my aunts ranch it's a daily activity to heat up the wooden Sauna (they have both wooden and electric, but the electric haven't been used in years) at around 8 pm. Washing also happens with no shower or any running water. Hot water is heated within the Sauna stove and mixed with a cold well water to the wanted temperature. I've always preferred this way of cleaning myself.
The experience would be even more genuinely Finnish if it was summer and you had "Vihta", which is practically just bundle of birch sticks with leaves on and it's drenched in cold water and whipped on your back. It might sound crazy, but it feels so damn good and helps with the surface level blood circulation a lot.
haha it's mostly water dripping down in the sauna, not sweat :D
Yeah, I am learning this right now, very interesting. Thanks for this info. I just assumed it was all sweat.
go and try, bet you swet
Great video!
"It's amazing how much sweat one can produce" - Sauna noob
Nice summer cottage! Have a great first of may you all!
Lakes in Central Finland have still got ice
That lake probably still has ice as well. Just not on the shores.
its even better when you go out on the porch for a beer or two, only wearing your towel around you.
and it's frisk minus 20C outside.
Lovely!
Step 1 no swimming suit😊 You had really nice time and place there. Thanks Janne👍
I should go and warm up sauna. Did it yesterday, day before that, but why not again :)