Thanks for sharing! I bought a rough barn find '95 two and a half years ago for $900. Redid the carbs, tank/pump, headlights, and general cleanup with brakes and fluids. Still running strong 25,000 miles later. Great solid bike, smooth power, parts are infrequently needed, but when they are, they are inexpensive. I'm running Avon Storm XM 3D tires, and just passed 16,000 miles on them, but they will need to be changed out this summer. -STring-
This is one of the best reviews I have seen. Thank you! I have had my 1996 model for a year and a half. One of two bikes....the other is an in town brilliant fun Royal Enfield Classic.....the Pan was for trips to see the kids 4 hour drive away.....they moved back into our area so I never did the trip....however a brilliant bike for commuting to work as well.....great winter bike as well....this bike has extended my riding almost year round. I didn't know much about the bike when I got it...WOW I consider myself blundering into a really great deal and bike.....cheers.
I would agree that this bike is extremely reliable, smooth, and comfortable. Just got one, for a song, pick up with a trailer in a few days in another state. Looking forward to enjoying the reliability of Honda....and the comfort. I know old bikes well as I restore them, Hondas are pretty much problem free. Thanks for this useful video.
Great video! So many bike reviews are delivered dry and monotonous, but I genuinely enjoyed your review. It’s clear you’ve ridden a lot and enjoy it. Thanks.
I bought an R1150RT off a dealer £2400, it broke down on the motorway 10 miles later, wouldn't restart, went back to dealer who couldn't fix it & thankfully gave me my money back. I'd previously looked at & walked away from an R1100RT - there was noticeable play in the back wheel and the ABS didn't work. If I remember that one had about 50k miles on it. Just my experience with a couple of older BMW bikes not a comment on all BMW bikes. I saw a 2001 Pan for sale, full stainless exhaust, brand new swingarm couple of years ago, non-ABS/TCS, 60k miles. I bought it for £1750 and absolutely love it. Have to be a bit careful, I'm 5''7", 29" inside leg but it's fine once it's moving. So comfortable, so smooth. Very easy to handle at low speeds and very civilised around town/at lower speeds. Up the revs and for a big, heavy bike you can really get a shift on. The weight's low down and you can throw it around bends faster & lean it over more than you'd expect, i.e. you can have fun. And you can sit on it all day in comfort. It does what it was desgned to do exceptionally well and I like the fact that it's old school, by which I mean no complicated electronics, ECUs, fuel injection mapping issues, ABS, etc. If you see a good one buy it...
Nothing short of a brilliant review. You left very few questions unanswered. I'm seriously considering an old ST1100, but I wouldn't hesitate recommending your video to somebody who might not even be in the market for a motorcycle.
Thank you mate! Your extreemly practical and on poin review helped me decide and now I am an ST-1100 owner!!! :) Your tip on cost of extras REALLY helped! Got one with a new seat, new exhausts, big case and was fully repainted (white perl) 2 years ago :)
Just wanted to say thanks for such an awesome, no bs review. I am off to look at a 95 model this afternoon and was looking for some form of online review...dude you nailed it. (loved the crack about the English)
You need to read up about the English; look up the Peterloo Massacre 1819 to see how they treated their own people and imagine hoe they treated people in other Countries.
was looking at a 97', this video convinced me. fantastic motorcycle. 2K with GIVI top box, progressive fork springs, heated grips, throttle meister and some trinkets. Outstanding value!
Thanks for a balanced review. About 1994 I looked at the ST1100 and I think I still have the brochure. A couple years ago I started looking for a bike to ride from San Francisco to Santa Fe, for a 50th year reunion. I got the other super bargain touring bike. Here is the interesting thing that is going on. Back in the 90's Honda and Kawasaki both worked out the art and science of building a fast long lasting 4 cylinder touring motorcycle for a reasonable price. So fast forward to the present... really great touring pikes are available for under 3,000 dollars. Just the thing for a 69 year old like me. Way faster than the brakes, definitely fun and definitely best ridden by somebody that finally learned to drive safely. For the Santa Fe trip, I wound up getting a Connie. I enjoyed hearing from you how great the ST1100 is.
Love my 1986 Connie but just test drove a 92' ST earlier today and it's coming home with me tomorrow. Very Very long gears. That will take some getting used to. Keeping the Connie because I like a sport tourer that does the twisties so well.
@@scottjones5455 which do you think is better for urban commuting? I know they're both heavy, but they're such reliable bikes that I want to try one in the city. Did you notice one was cheaper to run/maintain? Cheers.
@@cesartapia610 I tend to run the Kawasaki around town and the Honda for longer rides. Maintenance is dirt cheap for both bikes. Tires wear out faster on the Kawasaki for some reason...Lol.
For somebody who is looking to buy one of these machines I found your video very informative, your style pleasant to the ears and you have told me everything I needed to know. Shame you were being shot at all the time :)
Got two of these. both 91 models. Think the thing is hot in summer? get a ST1300 and learn the meaning (~_^) Both of mine have over 100,000 miles. know of one with over 400,000. Best tires for handling for me were Michelins. but they don't come in stock size in the rears. Best cheap tires. Shinko 705 rear (150/70 dual sport tire) and an Avon Road Rider. Got 11,000 miles from one coting $89.00 Oil. I use Shell Rotella diesel. Honda says every 90.000 on the belt. Gates has a replacement for a bit cheaper. Got K&N filters. Use STP or Purolator Civic filters. Light is from the gauge sending unit, and comes on when you got about a gallon left. 7.3 gallons and ride slowly (like across wisconsin with lots of 55 mph) and get 50MPG, go over 300 miles per tank. My Corbin needs a cover and I'd like some better foam. My stock seat has gel on it, and I use an Airhawk for really long rides. I've done 1400 miles in a 26 hour day with a stop for lunch, and meandering along. not rushing. one of the best bikes for an iron butt. (1000+ miles in 24 hours) Honda of Europe in Germany designed the thing. Great bike.
I put a shinko raven on the back after getting 12000 out of the set of tires that were on it, 83 bucks, put the OEM tire on the front cost I had no issues with it and it also went 12K, $93, more importantly as the front wore it retained it's shape and did not cup.
I take it the stock front you used was the Radial Bridgestone 020. Many of the guys prefer it to the later 023 but a few like the newer T30 better. I didn't get as many miles out of the Raven I used as I got from the 705. But, I should note, I had to modify the 705 by cutting slits in the tread blocks to release heat or the tires would blister (I lived in Texas at the time). The Raven was, otherwise a good tire. I also will note, the new Avon Storm 3 still does the front tire weave and cupping that the Storm 2 did. When I used the Storm 2 I got two rears to a single front. I did not keep track of mileage back then. The Storm 3 also doesn't stick as well as the 2, but is far better than the Metzler Z6 set I tried (very expensive, stuck poorly, and didn't last. Also they cracked due to cold temps, and the front was worn out as fast as the rear at 7200 miles) and the 2 was better in the wet, but the best wet tires were the Michelin PR3s. I like the Shinko Verge tires as well. I wish they had the stock sizes. I used the 170/60 ST1300 size, but on one bike that puts the cruise speed rpm in a slightly uncomfortable place, and on the other the tire rubs the swing arm.
Thank you for the intel on your motorcycle. I have been in hard debate over a wing or this ST1100. I own a Shadow 1100. Touring high revs for long distance sucks. Going all in on the ST1100 now.... Thanks
High revs from my Concours is exactly why I test drove a 92 ST with 50K miles today. I was not looking for another gear at 70 mph like I was constantly doing on the Concours. In fact the ST revs lower in 4th gear at 70 than the Concours does in 6th gear. I do like the Concours from zero to 70 though, but I want to do some long miles and for that reason the ST will be coming home with me tomorrow.
Well done mate! I'm late seeing this, but glad I did. In fact, before a friend pointed this model out to me, I'd not heard of it before. I might have thought it was a Pacific Highway.... ish. I have a 2014 CTX 700 DCT and a 2007 Yamaha Majesty 400 both are seemingly bulletproof! Had a 2009 Triumph Bonnie before them, liked it, but had horrible oil leaks...flashback to "68 I guess. So your video really taught me a lot of good things to know as I'm now interested in 2021 in acquiring one of these interesting bikes! Fanks mate! ;) lol!
The Pan is a fantastic bike. I'll never let mine go. They can feel a bit heavy when you're pushing it on very twisty roads. The underseat fuel tank is fundamental to it's feel. The more fuel you carry the better it tips in. It is a countersteerers dream . The UK police didn't use this bike for all those years for nothing. All day comfortable 600 miles no problem.
5:13 I'm pretty sure the time has come to work on that point as UK is going down the drain... Anyway nice ride...ST1100 indeed is still on of the best out there.
Just bought my 4th 1100 Pan. I reckon this is THE best tourer out there. Ride it within its limits and its an awesome roadbike. Mine is a 1997 with 22k on the clock. Think this one is a keeper as they are getting quite old now and the pool of nice ones is slowly drying up.
@@MrBluoct Sorry only just saw this reply?! Well, yes it’s a heavy bike but it’s beautifully balanced, has decent brakes, a nice gearbox with very tall gears so it really wafts along. Top speed something like 135 mph ish although you will never need that so 80 mph motorways are effortless and economical. Fuelling is wonderful compared to today’s herky-jerky fuel injection. Screen is fixed height of course so you may need/want to buy a different height one to suit you. Mirrors offer perfect views. It’s also easy to routine home service, bodywork is easy to remove too compared to today’s bikes. 100% recommend one to you. Just try and buy a nice one that’s been looked after rather than just mileage on it.
Wow! There is a lot of wisdom in this review. Thanks for sharing. I'm looking at buying a friend's 2001, but he's a bit high on the price. I have noticed though, since this review 7 years ago, these have increased in price.
Oh, and those mirrors...the reason they come off so easy is more Honda brilliance. When she tips over, they pop off instead of resisting the crash and getting completely knackered or worse, transferring that energy to the rest of the upper fairing and cracking that in turn. ST1300 has the same feature.
Nice review! I've got a '96 ST1100 and it's been a great bike. Highly recommend it! It is not a sport bike but eats miles like there's no tomorrow, carries a ton of crap, handles very nicely and is all-day-long comfortable. One minor point....the gas tank is 7.4 gallons.
+Gregory Wills Agreed, got mine up to 85K now, bought another one for my brother to ride when he comes over, it started off doing 42 mpg on my commute, I cleaned the KN and it started doing 46, rode it a bit harder and ran some fuel cleaner through the carbs it now does 50 mpg on my commute, f*ckin A.
zvipix .i just bought one ..went for 700 km ride on Sunday and could have done it all over again once home .very stable bike ,just eats the ks ..you won't regret it 👍
Wonderful videos, keep it up man! Thinking about buying one of these, after touring cross county on my CBR600F4i, I'm looking for something with more range...
Great review! The comment about the English civilizing the world earned a like and subscribe. Welcome to the Colonies..lol I am looking for a tourer, and leaning towards an ST.
The mirrors are designed to easily pop off and on in case you clip someone whilst filtering. It'll knock the mirror off the bike instead of knocking you off the bike. Then you can just pick it up and pop it back on again.
@@lr882027 Well you have to replace some things with old bikes. I haven´t checked yet do i have the original alternator. Everything has worked well and it has hand warmers.
@@lr882027 Any progress? I hear the upgrade is 40 amps, how difficult of a job is it? I hope the bike I'm buying tomorrow with 57k doesn't have any time bombs.
@@scottjones5455 I sold this bike with 100K on the ODO the charging system started overheating the regulator and I didn't know why. The 40A conversion sounds a real pain in the ass. The other ST I have is just about to turn 100K
At 100,400 miles that alternator gave out so I sold it cheap. I had another ST which I still ride today, at 111,000 the alternator gave out on that one too so I put a deep cycle battery in the trunk and leave it on a charger. I have a range of about 250 miles, it does for my work commute which is 45 miles each way. ST1100 is just about my favorite bike of all time.
@@lr882027 Nice! I picked a low miler up last year. One careful owner with a full Honda service history from '98. Just ordered a new rear suspension unit and am treating her to a K&N filter! I use it for days out with my wife. Brilliant bike for touring. I've got a couple of others in the garage for trails and a daily. You live in a beautiful area for biking!
Every time some idiot adds an aftermarket exhaust.. they end up burning up the valves and the thing becomes junk... or they are running so rich trying to compensate for the stupid exhaust that they smell like a 49 chevy P.U. smell them before you see them. Strangely enough,Honda engineers the entire intake and exhaust system to accomplish the power band, economy, and emissions tweeked to the nth degree. Joe clip on in his garage factory cares naught about such niceties.
They are brilliant bikes i got a 96 model last year,it's so good am selling my 2009 Cbf cos i find myself jumping on the Pan all the time,the engine is so understressed 80mph at 4k revs,means it can do very high mileage,same as my Vfr you have to give the brakes and calipers a good clean a couple of times a year and i find that improves the braking considerably
I've got a Pan just now.Nothing wrong with it,but it's biggest problem is that it's NOT an FJ1200.I've had 3,and would swap the Pan for another in the same condition.The engine in the FJ is head and shoulders above the Pan,and I've done 600 mile days on one,so it does the tourer thing just as well.
+gregg ferns I have both, I really like the ST but I love the FJ212 and if I had to choose 1 it would be the FJ. However, in my mind I see them as two different tools, the ST is obviously very staid and touring orientated and I use it as such, I find it smooth and easy to ride. The FJ has a much more powerful motor and when I ride it I ride more like a dick - for me it's a sport bike. Giving the ST more power would make it less of a complete package I think. Either way both very good bikes.
Once I bought the FJ1200 from new - thought it was the best sportstourer I could get. 2 month later I sold it again... The engine sounds awfull when you push it. Like all yamaha aircooled I have owned. Also I found out that 4 in a row isn't for me - very little motor carisma:( This st1100 sounds like it has some of the same cheerfull approach to work. Just like the CX500Turbo from Honda - the best bike I have ever owned. Sadly a friend of mine crashed it for me.
Oops my daughter apparently was logged in on my pc:/ Well this is me - and my short story: Once I bought the FJ1200 from new - thought it was the best sportstourer I could get. 2 month later I sold it again... The engine sounds awfull when you push it. Like all yamaha aircooled I have owned. Also I found out that 4 in a row isn't for me - very little motor carisma:( This st1100 sounds like it has some of the same cheerfull approach to work. Just like the CX500Turbo from Honda - the best bike I have ever owned. Sadly a friend of mine crashed it for me.
@@lr882027, thanks for the reply. I kind of like the FJ the best. However, my wife will be with me from time to time. So I'm thinking the ST1100 or the PC 800 type bike might be a better choice.
Bought my 1997 ST with FSH and 41K on the clock for £1300, in the UK, three years ago.Power plant feels more like a car engine than a motorcycle engine. Very reliable, cheap insurance and a great touring bike, but doesn't have much of a fun factor. Had a ZZR1100 before and apart from engine size they have nothing in common performance wise, so don't expect your arms to be ripped out of their sockets. Mine has a Corbin seat, one-inch bar risers and comfort wise it's amazing. 500 miles a day no problem. The ZZR was a shoulder killer after 80 miles. Seriously though I need a second lighter, faster bike too as the ST is too boring for a quick blast through the twisties. For long journeys, it's hard to beat.
I consider these the Toyota Camry of motorcycles/ smooth, super reliable, fair price. At 69 years old the smooth acceptable power of a ST1100 is just fine.
This is the bike the notorious Hell's Angel Sonny Barger is quoted saying something to the effect he would MUCH rather ride than a piece of shit Harley ....but he said American outlaw bikers it was all an image thing riding Harleys. Can anyone else picture a gnarly gang of 100 or so of outlaw bikers all riding STs and Concourses and K100s etc? Scary thought? They would have done SO MUCH more crime rather than being bogged down for weeks waiting for repairs and shit Oh here is the paragraph directly from the his book "Hell's Angel " by Sonny Barger, pp. 52-53. "...But Hell's Angels started riding Harley-Davidsons mostly because, unlike today, they didn't have much choice. In 1957, it was either ride a Harley or settle for a Triumph or BSA. They'd already stopped building Indians. It's always been important for Hell's Angels to ride American-made machines. In terms of pure workmanship, personally I don't like Harleys. I ride them because I'm in the club, and that's the image, but if I could I would seriously consider a Honda ST1100 or a BMW. We really missed the boat not switching over to the Japanese models when they began building bigger bikes. I'll usually say, "#$%* Harley Davidson. You can buy an ST1100 and the mother#$%*er will do 110 miles per hour right from the factory all day long." The newest "rice rockets" can carry 140 horsepower to the rear wheel, and can easily do 180 miles per hour right out of the box. While it's probably too late to switch over now, it would have been a nice move, because Japanese bikes today are so much cheaper and better built. However, Japanese motorcycles don't have as much personality...." A murderous scumbag? Maybe but he sounded like an actual motorcycle lover as opposed to someone only using a bike asa prop
This is how a rider review should be done. No 'ums' and 'ahhs' and stumbling, it's bloody seamless, articulate, and relevant. Well done, mate. Only thing you didn't confirm was can a full face helmet fit in the side bags...I know it does on the ST13 but what about the ST11? They look like they're right on the line of not being deep enough. I'm gonna do something like this review for my Honda Blackbird...another Honda masterpiece. I absolutely love the 80s look of the Concours 10 and it's rawness but you nailed the reality of this segment...at the ST1100s much higher showroom prices in 1994 it was a different story, but now with prices so low on these bulletproof used 90s bikes (both the ST11 and Connie are tanks) it's hard to make the case for a used Connie in order to save at most a few hundred bucks. Better brakes (ABS on some later models) integrated crash bars, better suspension, lower centre of gravity, overall smoothness, and subjectively more interesting engine and no oddball 16 inch rear wheel with its limited tire choices and iffy availability in the middle of nowhere...the Honda is the smarter choice. BTW your comment about England civilizing the whole fucking world had me howling as well as feeling a perverse pride in my savage ancestry. I'm gonna put that accent of yours (lapsed a bit) somewhere north..maybe Lancashire or Yorkshire. Am I wrong? Thanks again for a great review.
I'm actually very interested in the ST lineup whether it is the 1100 or 1300. But did you have riding experience of the VFR1200? I'm the vfr guy, so wouldn't mind the advice if you have it. 😀
Never ridden one but a colleague did a few months back 'cos he really wanted one. His verdict : "meh". He didn't buy it, got a Ninja 1000 instead. Local Honda dealer always has them in stock 'cos no-one wants them.
Tell you what... when some clod in coming straight at you in the wrong lane.. last thing you want to be giving him is a nice bright Green Light on the front of your motorcycle ! What were you thinking ? Easily a 1 or 2 thousand more in California. Super deal.
Thank you sir. I actually saw this bike yesterday (6th Dec 2020) abandoned in a Wal Mart car park.The charging system died and I could resurrect it so I sold it 'as is" for 800 bucks. It has 102,000 miles on it and was a real mess.
2000? In what currency? Around me they sell for about 2500 to 3500 (houston). High mile st1300 can be had for just a bit more. I wish I could have been that lucky to get one running for 2000.
Well, it depends which Goldwing but compared to the GL1500 which was available at the same time, the ST was nimbler, quicker, better on gas and cheaper. However, it did not have as much luggage capacity as a GL1500, nor could it provide the same level of passenger comfort and finally it did not have the luxuries of a GL (stereo, reverse, CB, computer etc). So really, it's a matter of horses for courses.
Not this one, the charging system went tits up at 100,045 miles and I couldn't figure it out so I sold it to someone who thought they could fix it - still got 800 bucks though plus I kept the hard bags. I still have my other one which now has 103,000 miles on it and is running great.
Bucket of dirt. I'm a Honda man through and through. Ive had three of these, 1998 and two 2000 models. I thought with the first two I was just unlucky but on the third I had just about enough. From bad brakes, spongy suspension, failing anti dive system in front forks to death wobbles and weaving at anything slightly over motorway speeds. Not to mention the partially inaccessible timing belt without ripping the front end off and then the exhaust manifolds. My friend has the ST 1300 and says that version is just as bad. In my opinion a pile of dirt.
Balsy of you to criticize the bike, but your opinion is valid- it was after all your experience. Thanks for the perspective. I can say as a restorer of old bikes like 1980 UJM Suzukis, I am used to a world of shit and endless difficult repairs; electrical repairs, stators and rectifiers, body work and painting to match stock....etc.. T'is the nature of serving old beasts. One question or comment...perhaps you can learn more about how to select old bikes- might help a bit to avoid the shits. As an example, you can tell alot about the bike by inspecting the owner- professional, timely, or a turd? Is the bike immaculate? Is the garage immaculate, condition of their cars, tools in the garage? Fluids on the wall? Did they keep everything including old brake pads? Careful folks keep everything...read EVERYTHING. Do they have all original parts which were upgraded? If it's a crapped out bike with chipped and scratched fairings, bad tires, old oil, bike starts hard and runs like shit... walk away. I find junk bikes often have no records of servicing, no tool kit, no owner's manual and a quick test ride brings out the very things you discuss. Learn to do a compression test, pull the plugs, smell the oil, listen carefully as the bike is started and runs. When test riding, pay attention to everything relating to bike function. If this stuff is over your head, take someone with you who knows bikes. You have to understand that you made bad choices...get better at bike selection? Yes? One must ASSUME there are problems with old bikes and go from there. An immaculate bike from a professional thinking owner who has perfectionist tendencies, and test ride that gives thumbs up to operation on side streets and highway RARELY presents problems beyond fork seals.- these people take good care of their stuff...someone with an immaculate bike with fresh oil and properly working everything is usually fine...but you pay more.
Haha, going for $3k, sight unseen in Alaska. You could buy one just to drive up, and it would pay for all the fuel and a plane ticket back home. Free tour!
It’s 96 st1100 Has 30-32000 miles Want to add a better exhaust maybe delkevic - and a carb tune for just a little more hp and sportier feel- kind of thinking a smaller windscreen but in the winter I love having the larger windscreen
MAKING BAD CHOICES ON USED BIKES????...TAKE A LOOK IN THE MIRROR. I can say as a restorer of old bikes like 1980 UJM Suzukis, I am used to a world of shit and endless difficult repairs; electrical repairs, stators and rectifiers, body work and painting to match stock....etc.. T'is the nature of serving old beasts. One question or comment...perhaps you can learn more about how to select old bikes- might help a bit to avoid the shits. As an example, you can tell alot about the bike by inspecting the owner- professional, timely, or a turd? Is the bike immaculate? Is the garage immaculate, condition of their cars, tools in the garage? Fluids on the wall? Did they keep everything including old brake pads? Careful folks keep everything...read EVERYTHING. Do they have all original parts which were upgraded? If it's a crapped out bike with chipped and scratched fairings, bad tires, old oil, bike starts hard and runs like shit... walk away. I find junk bikes often have no records of servicing, no tool kit, no owner's manual and a quick test ride brings out the very things you discuss. Learn to do a compression test, pull the plugs, smell the oil, listen carefully as the bike is started and runs. When test riding, pay attention to everything relating to bike function. If this stuff is over your head, take someone with you who knows bikes. You have to understand that you made bad choices...get better at bike selection? Yes? One must ASSUME there are problems with old bikes and go from there. An immaculate bike from a professional thinking owner who has perfectionist tendencies, and test ride that gives thumbs up to operation on side streets and highway RARELY presents problems beyond fork seals.- these people take good care of their stuff...someone with an immaculate bike with fresh oil and properly working everything is usually fine...but you pay more.
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It's 2024 and this is still a great, informative, and interesting review.
"I'd know about civilized, because I'm English, and we civilized the whole fucking world" Worth a like just for that. Great review too.
and he owns a jeep
See above comment you ignorant f**k.
Thanks for sharing! I bought a rough barn find '95 two and a half years ago for $900. Redid the carbs, tank/pump, headlights, and general cleanup with brakes and fluids. Still running strong 25,000 miles later. Great solid bike, smooth power, parts are infrequently needed, but when they are, they are inexpensive. I'm running Avon Storm XM 3D tires, and just passed 16,000 miles on them, but they will need to be changed out this summer. -STring-
This is one of the best reviews I have seen. Thank you! I have had my 1996 model for a year and a half. One of two bikes....the other is an in town brilliant fun Royal Enfield Classic.....the Pan was for trips to see the kids 4 hour drive away.....they moved back into our area so I never did the trip....however a brilliant bike for commuting to work as well.....great winter bike as well....this bike has extended my riding almost year round. I didn't know much about the bike when I got it...WOW I consider myself blundering into a really great deal and bike.....cheers.
I would agree that this bike is extremely reliable, smooth, and comfortable. Just got one, for a song, pick up with a trailer in a few days in another state. Looking forward to enjoying the reliability of Honda....and the comfort. I know old bikes well as I restore them, Hondas are pretty much problem free. Thanks for this useful video.
I'm looking for another but they're a bit thin on the ground right now here in Colorado
Great video! So many bike reviews are delivered dry and monotonous, but I genuinely enjoyed your review. It’s clear you’ve ridden a lot and enjoy it. Thanks.
I bought an R1150RT off a dealer £2400, it broke down on the motorway 10 miles later, wouldn't restart, went back to dealer who couldn't fix it & thankfully gave me my money back. I'd previously looked at & walked away from an R1100RT - there was noticeable play in the back wheel and the ABS didn't work. If I remember that one had about 50k miles on it. Just my experience with a couple of older BMW bikes not a comment on all BMW bikes. I saw a 2001 Pan for sale, full stainless exhaust, brand new swingarm couple of years ago, non-ABS/TCS, 60k miles. I bought it for £1750 and absolutely love it. Have to be a bit careful, I'm 5''7", 29" inside leg but it's fine once it's moving. So comfortable, so smooth. Very easy to handle at low speeds and very civilised around town/at lower speeds. Up the revs and for a big, heavy bike you can really get a shift on. The weight's low down and you can throw it around bends faster & lean it over more than you'd expect, i.e. you can have fun. And you can sit on it all day in comfort. It does what it was desgned to do exceptionally well and I like the fact that it's old school, by which I mean no complicated electronics, ECUs, fuel injection mapping issues, ABS, etc. If you see a good one buy it...
Nothing short of a brilliant review. You left very few questions unanswered. I'm seriously considering an old ST1100, but I wouldn't hesitate recommending your video to somebody who might not even be in the market for a motorcycle.
Thank you mate! Your extreemly practical and on poin review helped me decide and now I am an ST-1100 owner!!! :)
Your tip on cost of extras REALLY helped! Got one with a new seat, new exhausts, big case and was fully repainted (white perl) 2 years ago :)
About to ride mine to work this morning, 107,000 miles and rising......
Just wanted to say thanks for such an awesome, no bs review. I am off to look at a 95 model this afternoon and was looking for some form of online review...dude you nailed it. (loved the crack about the English)
Craig Wells stfu
Then he found out to really be civilized he had to come to America.
You need to read up about the English; look up the Peterloo Massacre 1819 to see how they treated their own people and imagine hoe they treated people in other Countries.
was looking at a 97', this video convinced me. fantastic motorcycle. 2K with GIVI top box, progressive fork springs, heated grips, throttle meister and some trinkets. Outstanding value!
Thanks for a balanced review. About 1994 I looked at the ST1100 and I think I still have the brochure. A couple years ago I started looking for a bike to ride from San Francisco to Santa Fe, for a 50th year reunion. I got the other super bargain touring bike. Here is the interesting thing that is going on. Back in the 90's Honda and Kawasaki both worked out the art and science of building a fast long lasting 4 cylinder touring motorcycle for a reasonable price. So fast forward to the present... really great touring pikes are available for under 3,000 dollars. Just the thing for a 69 year old like me. Way faster than the brakes, definitely fun and definitely best ridden by somebody that finally learned to drive safely. For the Santa Fe trip, I wound up getting a Connie. I enjoyed hearing from you how great the ST1100 is.
Love my 1986 Connie but just test drove a 92' ST earlier today and it's coming home with me tomorrow. Very Very long gears. That will take some getting used to. Keeping the Connie because I like a sport tourer that does the twisties so well.
@@scottjones5455 which do you think is better for urban commuting? I know they're both heavy, but they're such reliable bikes that I want to try one in the city. Did you notice one was cheaper to run/maintain? Cheers.
@@cesartapia610 I tend to run the Kawasaki around town and the Honda for longer rides. Maintenance is dirt cheap for both bikes. Tires wear out faster on the Kawasaki for some reason...Lol.
Excellent info !! Thanks !!! Especially desert heat information. Not much slow driving in Sonoran Desert, and always hot & no curves.
For somebody who is looking to buy one of these machines I found your video very informative, your style pleasant to the ears and you have told me everything I needed to know. Shame you were being shot at all the time :)
Awesome! Best best best review of the Pan European. Ive been thinking of upgrading from an aged BMW. Thanks for the review
BMW's policies on only selling parts to dealers and certified BMW techs makes it hard to fix on the cheap for a skilled amateur.
Tq for the review...got mine 3 mths ago...a 1996...went for 900kms ride...no complaints...just fantastic
Got two of these. both 91 models. Think the thing is hot in summer? get a ST1300 and learn the meaning (~_^)
Both of mine have over 100,000 miles. know of one with over 400,000.
Best tires for handling for me were Michelins. but they don't come in stock size in the rears. Best cheap tires. Shinko 705 rear (150/70 dual sport tire) and an Avon Road Rider.
Got 11,000 miles from one coting $89.00
Oil. I use Shell Rotella diesel.
Honda says every 90.000 on the belt. Gates has a replacement for a bit cheaper.
Got K&N filters.
Use STP or Purolator Civic filters.
Light is from the gauge sending unit, and comes on when you got about a gallon left. 7.3 gallons and ride slowly (like across wisconsin with lots of 55 mph) and get 50MPG, go over 300 miles per tank.
My Corbin needs a cover and I'd like some better foam.
My stock seat has gel on it, and I use an Airhawk for really long rides.
I've done 1400 miles in a 26 hour day with a stop for lunch, and meandering along. not rushing.
one of the best bikes for an iron butt. (1000+ miles in 24 hours)
Honda of Europe in Germany designed the thing.
Great bike.
I put a shinko raven on the back after getting 12000 out of the set of tires that were on it, 83 bucks, put the OEM tire on the front cost I had no issues with it and it also went 12K, $93, more importantly as the front wore it retained it's shape and did not cup.
I take it the stock front you used was the Radial Bridgestone 020. Many of the guys prefer it to the later 023 but a few like the newer T30 better.
I didn't get as many miles out of the Raven I used as I got from the 705. But, I should note, I had to modify the 705 by cutting slits in the tread blocks to release heat or the tires would blister (I lived in Texas at the time). The Raven was, otherwise a good tire. I also will note, the new Avon Storm 3 still does the front tire weave and cupping that the Storm 2 did. When I used the Storm 2 I got two rears to a single front. I did not keep track of mileage back then. The Storm 3 also doesn't stick as well as the 2, but is far better than the Metzler Z6 set I tried (very expensive, stuck poorly, and didn't last. Also they cracked due to cold temps, and the front was worn out as fast as the rear at 7200 miles) and the 2 was better in the wet, but the best wet tires were the Michelin PR3s.
I like the Shinko Verge tires as well. I wish they had the stock sizes. I used the 170/60 ST1300 size, but on one bike that puts the cruise speed rpm in a slightly uncomfortable place, and on the other the tire rubs the swing arm.
Thank you for the intel on your motorcycle. I have been in hard debate over a wing or this ST1100. I own a Shadow 1100. Touring high revs for long distance sucks. Going all in on the ST1100 now.... Thanks
High revs from my Concours is exactly why I test drove a 92 ST with 50K miles today. I was not looking for another gear at 70 mph like I was constantly doing on the Concours. In fact the ST revs lower in 4th gear at 70 than the Concours does in 6th gear. I do like the Concours from zero to 70 though, but I want to do some long miles and for that reason the ST will be coming home with me tomorrow.
Road one when they first came out , Damm good, bought one twenty years later, still Damm good.
Well done mate! I'm late seeing this, but glad I did. In fact, before a friend pointed this model out to me, I'd not heard of it before. I might have thought it was a Pacific Highway.... ish. I have a 2014 CTX 700 DCT and a 2007 Yamaha Majesty 400 both are seemingly bulletproof! Had a 2009 Triumph Bonnie before them, liked it, but had horrible oil leaks...flashback to "68 I guess. So your video really taught me a lot of good things to know as I'm now interested in 2021 in acquiring one of these interesting bikes! Fanks mate! ;) lol!
The Pan is a fantastic bike. I'll never let mine go. They can feel a bit heavy when you're pushing it on very twisty roads. The underseat fuel tank is fundamental to it's feel. The more fuel you carry the better it tips in. It is a countersteerers dream . The UK police didn't use this bike for all those years for nothing. All day comfortable 600 miles no problem.
mirrors break away from bike as a safety feature in case you bump into a parked car or another stationary item
full agree, pal. Got me a ´92 Pan 65k for incredible 1400.- runs like heaven. Been like making true a life dream.
5:13 I'm pretty sure the time has come to work on that point as UK is going down the drain...
Anyway nice ride...ST1100 indeed is still on of the best out there.
Just bought my 4th 1100 Pan. I reckon this is THE best tourer out there. Ride it within its limits and its an awesome roadbike. Mine is a 1997 with 22k on the clock. Think this one is a keeper as they are getting quite old now and the pool of nice ones is slowly drying up.
J Boy
Can you expand your comments in terms of your experiences ?
@@MrBluoct Sorry only just saw this reply?! Well, yes it’s a heavy bike but it’s beautifully balanced, has decent brakes, a nice gearbox with very tall gears so it really wafts along. Top speed something like 135 mph ish although you will never need that so 80 mph motorways are effortless and economical. Fuelling is wonderful compared to today’s herky-jerky fuel injection. Screen is fixed height of course so you may need/want to buy a different height one to suit you. Mirrors offer perfect views. It’s also easy to routine home service, bodywork is easy to remove too compared to today’s bikes. 100% recommend one to you. Just try and buy a nice one that’s been looked after rather than just mileage on it.
Wow! There is a lot of wisdom in this review. Thanks for sharing. I'm looking at buying a friend's 2001, but he's a bit high on the price. I have noticed though, since this review 7 years ago, these have increased in price.
Yes, prices have gone up, availability has gone down, a 2001 could be at least four grand.
Oh, and those mirrors...the reason they come off so easy is more Honda brilliance. When she tips over, they pop off instead of resisting the crash and getting completely knackered or worse, transferring that energy to the rest of the upper fairing and cracking that in turn. ST1300 has the same feature.
Nice review! I've got a '96 ST1100 and it's been a great bike. Highly recommend it! It is not a sport bike but eats miles like there's no tomorrow, carries a ton of crap, handles very nicely and is all-day-long comfortable. One minor point....the gas tank is 7.4 gallons.
+Gregory Wills Agreed, got mine up to 85K now, bought another one for my brother to ride when he comes over, it started off doing 42 mpg on my commute, I cleaned the KN and it started doing 46, rode it a bit harder and ran some fuel cleaner through the carbs it now does 50 mpg on my commute, f*ckin A.
Thanks, mate, for the review, I'm considering to purchase one of these at the moment.
zvipix .i just bought one ..went for 700 km ride on Sunday and could have done it all over again once home .very stable bike ,just eats the ks ..you won't regret it 👍
Wonderful videos, keep it up man! Thinking about buying one of these, after touring cross county on my CBR600F4i, I'm looking for something with more range...
Hi I liked your review,$1900 dollars being from Scotland sounds a steal to me.
well done.
used to have an XS650 but it looked nothing like your one
Thank you for a very nice review. you've made my mind up between this and the fuel injection st1300. ty
Great review! The comment about the English civilizing the world earned a like and subscribe. Welcome to the Colonies..lol I am looking for a tourer, and leaning towards an ST.
Mine just past 82,000 miles and is no beauty (rough life from a previous owner) but it's a great bike and just keeps going!
Thanks eh! (I'm Canadian).I'm going to buy a 1999 . The ST is quiet and will go fast enough .It's a great second hand bike .GREAT !!
The mirrors are designed to easily pop off and on in case you clip someone whilst filtering. It'll knock the mirror off the bike instead of knocking you off the bike. Then you can just pick it up and pop it back on again.
Beautiful bike - that I've only recently discovered. Regarding seating on this bike - perhaps you were thinking of Sargent.
Bought mine this summer. 1994 with 109 000 miles and can´t complain.
Funny, mine turned over 100,000 miles a couple of months back, literally the next day, the alternator went out.
@@lr882027 Well you have to replace some things with old bikes. I haven´t checked yet do i have the original alternator. Everything has worked well and it has hand warmers.
Yes, it's just that the whole arse end has to come out to replace the alternator which sounds rather time consuming. I'm going to start it next week
@@lr882027 Any progress? I hear the upgrade is 40 amps, how difficult of a job is it? I hope the bike I'm buying tomorrow with 57k doesn't have any time bombs.
@@scottjones5455 I sold this bike with 100K on the ODO the charging system started overheating the regulator and I didn't know why. The 40A conversion sounds a real pain in the ass. The other ST I have is just about to turn 100K
I just bought one with 111k miles. Its got a backfiring problem but still pretty good!
Check the in line fuel filter, then stick some B&G44K in it and ride it hard for 50 miles, most likely it will clear out.
These are very popular here in the UK . They are brilliant 👍👍
Outstanding and funny review! Subscribed
Brilliant clip thanks. Do you still have the Pan or did you trade her in for another?!
At 100,400 miles that alternator gave out so I sold it cheap. I had another ST which I still ride today, at 111,000 the alternator gave out on that one too so I put a deep cycle battery in the trunk and leave it on a charger. I have a range of about 250 miles, it does for my work commute which is 45 miles each way. ST1100 is just about my favorite bike of all time.
@@lr882027 Nice! I picked a low miler up last year. One careful owner with a full Honda service history from '98. Just ordered a new rear suspension unit and am treating her to a K&N filter! I use it for days out with my wife. Brilliant bike for touring. I've got a couple of others in the garage for trails and a daily. You live in a beautiful area for biking!
Every time some idiot adds an aftermarket exhaust.. they end up burning up the valves and the thing becomes junk... or they are running so rich trying to compensate for the stupid exhaust that they smell like a 49 chevy P.U. smell them before you see them. Strangely enough,Honda engineers the entire intake and exhaust system to accomplish the power band, economy, and emissions tweeked to the nth degree. Joe clip on in his garage factory cares naught about such niceties.
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nice explanation thank you very much!!
They are brilliant bikes i got a 96 model last year,it's so good am selling my 2009 Cbf cos i find myself jumping on the Pan all the time,the engine is so understressed 80mph at 4k revs,means it can do very high mileage,same as my Vfr you have to give the brakes and calipers a good clean a couple of times a year and i find that improves the braking considerably
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Great review. Thanks for posting this!
Ride with a group in Melbourne, Australia and one of the boys has an ST1100 with over 400,000ks on it with only normal service items required.
Great review
i'm thinking about buying one myself
Lovely bike. You sound exactly like Martin Brundle bro xD
Great and honest review!
Great review, thanks for posting.
cheers for the vid ,looking at one here in new zealand ,10000km ...first thing i'll do is the timing belt :)
cheers Dave
I've got a Pan just now.Nothing wrong with it,but it's biggest problem is that it's NOT an FJ1200.I've had 3,and would swap the Pan for another in the same condition.The engine in the FJ is head and shoulders above the Pan,and I've done 600 mile days on one,so it does the tourer thing just as well.
+gregg ferns I have both, I really like the ST but I love the FJ212 and if I had to choose 1 it would be the FJ. However, in my mind I see them as two different tools, the ST is obviously very staid and touring orientated and I use it as such, I find it smooth and easy to ride. The FJ has a much more powerful motor and when I ride it I ride more like a dick - for me it's a sport bike. Giving the ST more power would make it less of a complete package I think. Either way both very good bikes.
Honda build quality really shines even after a harsh winter, unlike the Yamaha.
Yes, of all the big 4 manufacturers, Honda has way the best build quality, especially plastics and fasteners
Once I bought the FJ1200 from new - thought it was the best sportstourer I could get. 2 month later I sold it again...
The engine sounds awfull when you push it. Like all yamaha aircooled I have owned. Also I found out that 4 in a row isn't for me - very little motor carisma:(
This st1100 sounds like it has some of the same cheerfull approach to work. Just like the CX500Turbo from Honda - the best bike I have ever owned. Sadly a friend of mine crashed it for me.
Oops my daughter apparently was logged in on my pc:/
Well this is me - and my short story:
Once I bought the FJ1200 from new - thought it was the best sportstourer I could get. 2 month later I sold it again...
The engine sounds awfull when you push it. Like all yamaha aircooled I have owned. Also I found out that 4 in a row isn't for me - very little motor carisma:(
This st1100 sounds like it has some of the same cheerfull approach to work. Just like the CX500Turbo from Honda - the best bike I have ever owned. Sadly a friend of mine crashed it for me.
Excellent review. Thanks!
Cool video. I'm considering a ST1100, Concours 1000, Pacific Coast 800 and FJ1200.
Good choices, i'd stay away from the Concours because the other 3 bikes are so much better
@@lr882027, thanks for the reply. I kind of like the FJ the best. However, my wife will be with me from time to time. So I'm thinking the ST1100 or the PC 800 type bike might be a better choice.
If you only could have one, what would be? The ST or the FJ1200?
@@manuelfvdias The heart says FJ12, the head says ST.
Bought my 1997 ST with FSH and 41K on the clock for £1300, in the UK, three years ago.Power plant feels more like a car engine than a motorcycle engine. Very reliable, cheap insurance and a great touring bike, but doesn't have much of a fun factor. Had a ZZR1100 before and apart from engine size they have nothing in common performance wise, so don't expect your arms to be ripped out of their sockets. Mine has a Corbin seat, one-inch bar risers and comfort wise it's amazing. 500 miles a day no problem. The ZZR was a shoulder killer after 80 miles. Seriously though I need a second lighter, faster bike too as the ST is too boring for a quick blast through the twisties. For long journeys, it's hard to beat.
I consider these the Toyota Camry of motorcycles/ smooth, super reliable, fair price. At 69 years old the smooth acceptable power of a ST1100 is just fine.
This is the bike the notorious Hell's Angel Sonny Barger is quoted saying something to the effect he would MUCH rather ride than a piece of shit Harley ....but he said American outlaw bikers it was all an image thing riding Harleys. Can anyone else picture a gnarly gang of 100 or so of outlaw bikers all riding STs and Concourses and K100s etc? Scary thought? They would have done SO MUCH more crime rather than being bogged down for weeks waiting for repairs and shit
Oh here is the paragraph directly from the his book "Hell's Angel " by Sonny Barger, pp. 52-53. "...But Hell's Angels started riding Harley-Davidsons mostly because, unlike today, they didn't have much choice. In 1957, it was either ride a Harley or settle for a Triumph or BSA. They'd already stopped building Indians. It's always been important for Hell's Angels to ride American-made machines. In terms of pure workmanship, personally I don't like Harleys. I ride them because I'm in the club, and that's the image, but if I could I would seriously consider a Honda ST1100 or a BMW. We really missed the boat not switching over to the Japanese models when they began building bigger bikes. I'll usually say, "#$%* Harley Davidson. You can buy an ST1100 and the mother#$%*er will do 110 miles per hour right from the factory all day long." The newest "rice rockets" can carry 140 horsepower to the rear wheel, and can easily do 180 miles per hour right out of the box. While it's probably too late to switch over now, it would have been a nice move, because Japanese bikes today are so much cheaper and better built. However, Japanese motorcycles don't have as much personality...."
A murderous scumbag? Maybe but he sounded like an actual motorcycle lover as opposed to someone only using a bike asa prop
This is how a rider review should be done. No 'ums' and 'ahhs' and stumbling, it's bloody seamless, articulate, and relevant. Well done, mate. Only thing you didn't confirm was can a full face helmet fit in the side bags...I know it does on the ST13 but what about the ST11? They look like they're right on the line of not being deep enough. I'm gonna do something like this review for my Honda Blackbird...another Honda masterpiece. I absolutely love the 80s look of the Concours 10 and it's rawness but you nailed the reality of this segment...at the ST1100s much higher showroom prices in 1994 it was a different story, but now with prices so low on these bulletproof used 90s bikes (both the ST11 and Connie are tanks) it's hard to make the case for a used Connie in order to save at most a few hundred bucks. Better brakes (ABS on some later models) integrated crash bars, better suspension, lower centre of gravity, overall smoothness, and subjectively more interesting engine and no oddball 16 inch rear wheel with its limited tire choices and iffy availability in the middle of nowhere...the Honda is the smarter choice. BTW your comment about England civilizing the whole fucking world had me howling as well as feeling a perverse pride in my savage ancestry. I'm gonna put that accent of yours (lapsed a bit) somewhere north..maybe Lancashire or Yorkshire. Am I wrong? Thanks again for a great review.
Yeah, the full helmet does fit, I tested it. It is tight though.
Thanks, Peter.
yes
That information is in the owner's manual, and every review of the bike on TH-cam.
I'm actually very interested in the ST lineup whether it is the 1100 or 1300. But did you have riding experience of the VFR1200? I'm the vfr guy, so wouldn't mind the advice if you have it. 😀
Never ridden one but a colleague did a few months back 'cos he really wanted one. His verdict : "meh". He didn't buy it, got a Ninja 1000 instead. Local Honda dealer always has them in stock 'cos no-one wants them.
Love the history added lol
Got mine 1k sick bobber/ mad max scrambler style !
Love this really. Thanks !
I'm looking at these but my daughter wants a Valkyrie what should I do?
The Valkyrie is a pig in y mind, these are much better
Each takes their own path
oh, and the new Avon Storm 3 are rated for 15,000 miles if installed by a dealer.
I just passed 16,000 miles on mine - great tire imho.
Oh, and that stock seat has been scooped for the rider. Completely standard ones are flatter
It's not a stock seat, I think it is a Saddleman but I'm not sure.
Tell you what... when some clod in coming straight at you in the wrong lane.. last thing you want to be giving him is a nice bright Green Light on the front of your motorcycle ! What were you thinking ? Easily a 1 or 2 thousand more in California. Super deal.
I absolutely love the Pan European ST1100, but I've never understood why the mirrors are so low down.
So the reflection is not affected by your shoulders and elbows as other mirrors are.
Love this guys humor also I just got one not n these
The mirrors come off easy so they don't get destroyed when you drop it
Awesome review ;-)
Thank you sir. I actually saw this bike yesterday (6th Dec 2020) abandoned in a Wal Mart car park.The charging system died and I could resurrect it so I sold it 'as is" for 800 bucks. It has 102,000 miles on it and was a real mess.
Maybe, but the Irish saved civilization. Good work man!
2000? In what currency? Around me they sell for about 2500 to 3500 (houston). High mile st1300 can be had for just a bit more. I wish I could have been that lucky to get one running for 2000.
Fair point, not seen many up for grabs recently (this vid is 2 years old) , if you really want one for 2k I have two of them you can have one of mine.
Window to the world
Good video mate. ,,,, UK rules 😀👍
You have the same car/bike combo as I do. XC70/st1100
Mine is a 1998 with only 13,500 miles on it. I guess it will outlast me.
Finland... look out... they're coming back !
Dose anyone knows where the fuses box for the headlights st1100 1995 thanks
remove the seat, the left saddlebag and the left side cover. you'll see the fusebox by the battery.
how is that compared to goldwing?
Well, it depends which Goldwing but compared to the GL1500 which was available at the same time, the ST was nimbler, quicker, better on gas and cheaper. However, it did not have as much luggage capacity as a GL1500, nor could it provide the same level of passenger comfort and finally it did not have the luxuries of a GL (stereo, reverse, CB, computer etc). So really, it's a matter of horses for courses.
Good report, shame about the swearing
Still have it?
Not this one, the charging system went tits up at 100,045 miles and I couldn't figure it out so I sold it to someone who thought they could fix it - still got 800 bucks though plus I kept the hard bags. I still have my other one which now has 103,000 miles on it and is running great.
@@lr882027 Good shit man, and crazy they last so long. I'm trying to get my hands on a garage kept 98 with 30k on it rn.
I love Honda s
Was that an Rc30 in the back of your garage?!?!?!?!
Yes
It does cook your balls😂 brilliant review👍
Did you ever experience a death wobble or hear about it
No, other than the bike being prone to low speed tank slappers when the front tire is bald, which is no surprise.
Thats the 1300, first year only. Not the ST1100 model discussed here.
then just change the original seat to a corbjin seat, if you changed you'll be in the paradise.
I tried a sargant and I didn't like it, I bought another ST with a corbin and a travelcade seat, both which are fine.
I have Corbin and stock is 100 times better
Boy, did you steal this !
It's sporty enough too.. love the one I just picked up
😂🤣🤣😅🤣 I LUV THIS GUY!!
Bucket of dirt. I'm a Honda man through and through. Ive had three of these, 1998 and two 2000 models. I thought with the first two I was just unlucky but on the third I had just about enough. From bad brakes, spongy suspension, failing anti dive system in front forks to death wobbles and weaving at anything slightly over motorway speeds. Not to mention the partially inaccessible timing belt without ripping the front end off and then the exhaust manifolds. My friend has the ST 1300 and says that version is just as bad. In my opinion a pile of dirt.
paddy1067 you are officially the only person on planet earth with that opinion and experience.
Balsy of you to criticize the bike, but your opinion is valid- it was after all your experience. Thanks for the perspective. I can say as a restorer of old bikes like 1980 UJM Suzukis, I am used to a world of shit and endless difficult repairs; electrical repairs, stators and rectifiers, body work and painting to match stock....etc.. T'is the nature of serving old beasts. One question or comment...perhaps you can learn more about how to select old bikes- might help a bit to avoid the shits. As an example, you can tell alot about the bike by inspecting the owner- professional, timely, or a turd? Is the bike immaculate? Is the garage immaculate, condition of their cars, tools in the garage? Fluids on the wall? Did they keep everything including old brake pads? Careful folks keep everything...read EVERYTHING. Do they have all original parts which were upgraded? If it's a crapped out bike with chipped and scratched fairings, bad tires, old oil, bike starts hard and runs like shit... walk away. I find junk bikes often have no records of servicing, no tool kit, no owner's manual and a quick test ride brings out the very things you discuss. Learn to do a compression test, pull the plugs, smell the oil, listen carefully as the bike is started and runs. When test riding, pay attention to everything relating to bike function. If this stuff is over your head, take someone with you who knows bikes. You have to understand that you made bad choices...get better at bike selection? Yes? One must ASSUME there are problems with old bikes and go from there. An immaculate bike from a professional thinking owner who has perfectionist tendencies, and test ride that gives thumbs up to operation on side streets and highway RARELY presents problems beyond fork seals.- these people take good care of their stuff...someone with an immaculate bike with fresh oil and properly working everything is usually fine...but you pay more.
Same bike in Denmark would set you back 10000,- Usd
No shit, I'll sell it to you half price
Haha, going for $3k, sight unseen in Alaska. You could buy one just to drive up, and it would pay for all the fuel and a plane ticket back home. Free tour!
Paid 3000$ usd had everything except the rear trunk
It’s 96 st1100
Has 30-32000 miles
Want to add a better exhaust maybe delkevic - and a carb tune for just a little more hp and sportier feel- kind of thinking a smaller windscreen but in the winter I love having the larger windscreen
to heavy for me on the Welsh roads
MAKING BAD CHOICES ON USED BIKES????...TAKE A LOOK IN THE MIRROR. I can say as a restorer of old bikes like 1980 UJM Suzukis, I am used to a world of shit and endless difficult repairs; electrical repairs, stators and rectifiers, body work and painting to match stock....etc.. T'is the nature of serving old beasts. One question or comment...perhaps you can learn more about how to select old bikes- might help a bit to avoid the shits. As an example, you can tell alot about the bike by inspecting the owner- professional, timely, or a turd? Is the bike immaculate? Is the garage immaculate, condition of their cars, tools in the garage? Fluids on the wall? Did they keep everything including old brake pads? Careful folks keep everything...read EVERYTHING. Do they have all original parts which were upgraded? If it's a crapped out bike with chipped and scratched fairings, bad tires, old oil, bike starts hard and runs like shit... walk away. I find junk bikes often have no records of servicing, no tool kit, no owner's manual and a quick test ride brings out the very things you discuss. Learn to do a compression test, pull the plugs, smell the oil, listen carefully as the bike is started and runs. When test riding, pay attention to everything relating to bike function. If this stuff is over your head, take someone with you who knows bikes. You have to understand that you made bad choices...get better at bike selection? Yes? One must ASSUME there are problems with old bikes and go from there. An immaculate bike from a professional thinking owner who has perfectionist tendencies, and test ride that gives thumbs up to operation on side streets and highway RARELY presents problems beyond fork seals.- these people take good care of their stuff...someone with an immaculate bike with fresh oil and properly working everything is usually fine...but you pay more.
Snore
I fucking talk alot
You got thumbs down for your racist comments, nothing to do with motorcycle review.
Great bike and I'm glad you love it. But did you have to take the name of my Lord in vain. You will be held accountable.
Jesus!!