I Wish I Knew These 4 Things Getting Into The Lineman Trade
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- I wish I knew these 4 things before getting started in the lineman trade! If you're anything like me, I kind of got started in the trade blind. No family members, or really anyone I knew personally worked in the trade. I went out & did it myself! #lineman #bluecollar #education
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00:00 - Intro
00:47 - 1st Thing I Wish I Knew...
03:30 - 2nd Thing I Wish I Knew...
06:33 - 3rd Thing I Wish I Knew...
08:48 - 4th Thing I Wish I Knew...
11:00 - Closing Thoughts
11.43 - Outro
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Been in the trade for 2 years, And I completely agree this trade is not for everyone. Don't let those tiktok montages you see where everything looks bad ass all the time fool you. Because they never seem to show when your out on storm digging a trench or a hole in pouring rain freezing your ass off covered in mud. (That's just one example.) This trade is the definition of hard work, there are days you are gonna go out and earn your paycheck, and then there's days just be sitting making easy bank.
I heard a guy say on power line podcast.. "some kids grow up doing plumbing or carpentry or roofing with their dad and have some sort of experience in that... no one grew up doing power lines with their dad". That being said you and quite literally everyone else has no experience when they first start in the trade either as a groundsman or apprentice. Just show up everyday willing to learn and progress, be a sponge. Your work ethic will set you apart from others. I am half way through my apprenticeship and its a lot to take in at first but you will get better with time. Good luck to all.
do you have to travel a lot during your apprenticeship
Absolutely
@@alphabassfishing234 how does that work out for a 19-21 year old with no family in other states? or its just something one has to figure out? and wouldn’t i be stuck to the states that’s in my jurisdiction if i do have to travel?
You are usually on your own. Stay in a hotel, or buy a camper or sleep in ur vehicle to save money. I’ve done it before. And yes you mostly b likely will be kept in your jurisdiction. If there’s no work they can send you outside your jurisdiction. And a lot of travel with storm work but your lodging is paid for on storm.
@@alphabassfishing234 ahh okay makes sense. how frequent on average would you travel to another city/state? i got a million more questions but the comment section might not be the best place to ask them. nevertheless, much appreciated!
My piece of advice is prepare to get 40 hours, no ot and no per diem. I got that out the gate and All of my buddies got 6-7 12s with per diem making big money. Everyone’s apprenticeship is different that way. That being said if you do get the big money stuff, save it in case you get knocked down to 40 hours somewhere else. Great video
Are u in the union? Local 17?
@@lupetetson773 yeah I’m out of local 77
Tampa TECO apprenticeship and journeyman lineman get no per diem
Damn thats where im from im going to sltc next week and graduate in august i guess tampa teco aint the way thw @olympic-ass-eater
Retired after 47 years in the power line business. Started out with contractor. Worked 10 hour days 5 days a week Multiple storms call outs. You name it I did it for 5 years. Learned a lot about the trade. Could climb terminate build operate every piece of equipment available after the 5th year. Got full support from the company when I put in application with the local power company. I was hired and didn’t take long for the harassment to start just because I worked for a non union contractor. And it didn’t take long before I smoked the union hands on skills test and climbing. Really made them mad when I was promoted over the hands that had been there for awhile. I took all the classes and schooling offered. It took 10 years but moved up to operations manager. Like any job you get out what you put in. Being in line working you have to be thick skinned and dish out what you take in.
thick skinned as in what? I’m going into technical school with intent of apprenticeship directly after.
@@IPursuePeppers-CTHI’m not a lineman but, typically thick skinned especially in construction just means being able to take a lotttt shit talk.
I like how you had to trash the union guys in your comment. I guess you had management written all over you. Im sure the men loved working for you
Austin good info, always have good content never fail us, appreciate your channel
Thanks for the recap
Great video advice. He is pretty much right on with his opinions. I retired as a Lineman for 45 years.
For me, the travel sounds the hardest. That would take some getting used to but I think I could eventually adapt. Thanks for the vid
Im on the waiting list for neat, currently got a position as a power lineman for another company. Working towards getting 1000 hours to notify neat so that i can be bumped on the list.
I’m 29 years old nd wanna learn everything. Thanks for telling me to just listen nd learn. I’m gonna start studying today was the first day I really looked in to this type of job.
Thank you for sharing your experience with us. Do you know anyone who became a lineman apprentice through the federal Western Area Power Administration? I recently saw an announcement on USA Jobs and I wonder if it's very difficult to get in with no lineman experience.
Non union Irby construction in ‘83 Worked transmission for them mainly.
Tower assembly Se Georgia in tge swamps.
We took over a hotel in Nahunta.
Learned to run all manner of equipment. And turn a torque wrench.
Yes all young guys were put through a hazing process. And yes it sucks.
Did you have any experience as a groundman before starting the apprenticeship?
Traveling is my favorite part
applied, tested out, interviewed and waiting for the call for boot camp. been almost a year. Been doing natural gas pipeline union work for the last 6 years. Hoping that helps me
Any updates on this?
Waiting 6 fucling years wtf
As a local 125 journeyman lineman for 31 years sometimes we get a school's Apprentice an ultimately I always ended up telling you should go get your money back. The reason the Journeymen are so hard on you so you'll make a good hand, and not kill somebody else or yourself. Do what they say and only what they tell you to do, believe it or not they're just trying to keep you alive
no lol hes been doign pipeline for 6 years, it's been a year since he started the process.
@@Diegosmoni
I offer no advice other than be motivated. I ate a lot of crap to get to the true journeyman status. To be a journeyman lineman you must know how to climb wood and steel and sometimes concrete poles. Work with transmission and distribution including underground circuits. A distribution guy can learn transmission techniques pretty easy as rigging is a basic talent in both fields.
A true journeyman lineman can do it all.
Where did you do your apprenticeship?
I just retired from the trade comfortably after 30 years 2 years ago. Really thought you had some really good points that the guys coming up should pay attention to. First is try to have FUN because it’s a Super Fun Job if it’s not drag up and go somewhere and find people and or a place that’s Fun. But you gotta take a lot of BS till you top out,maybe you’ll be that dicks boss someday and make him remember you 😂. Other important thing you said was you can learn from anyone (forever) Being intelligent and having common sense is learning from watching a bad lineman as well as taking instruction. Anyway I liked your video be safe.
Congrats on your retirement! The lineman trade is very rewarding career for you! Thanks for your support! I'm sure you've seen quite a bit in your 30 years!
All I can say is anyone starting out do your best to make it a goal to get hired at a co-op sooner rather than later. Now this is my opinion they have small areas so they aren’t going to move you far away like an investor owned company and traveling being a contractor for the rest of my career was not for me I think the co-op’s are better to work for all around. As far as the lineman school 25 years ago was really as big as now I learned on the job from the bottom up.
How much do you make and with how many years of experience? Do any of your superiors make more than $300k?
Any advice for a female veteran looking to get into the trade? I did 11 years in construction while in the military, not electrical though.
It's so little women in the trade that you'll be recruited instantly by most companies especially since you were in military thats two boosts for you. You dont need advice you need to fill out an application as long as you can pass the physical test you'll be fine
Veep program, they pay you to go to school and guaranteed a position when you graduate. Have to be separated from the military less than 5 years. My husband is doing this program and hardly anyone women do the program but it’s an option.
Does anybody have an experience as a vet? I’m trying to use the H2H for a lineman apprenticeship but watching videos like these kind of makes me think twice. I plan on going to NATLC and using my GI Bill but that’s only for school…what happens afterwards? Am I in the same position as he was? 1 year and no job? Applying everywhere? Might just stay in the military a couple more years..I don’t want that but it sounds like the better option. Unless someone has gone through this as a vet I would like their advice.
I’m a veteran as well I got in by using VEEP (veteran electrical entry program) apply
I second looking into the VEEP program. In2veep is the website. I’m attending in March.
In the process of doing the same to go to naltc, how has yours went so far ?
@@iancopeland6591 so I’m hearing a lot from the electricians I work with to not go to school, just get into an apprenticeship and apply at a city hall for an IBEW. I don’t even know where to start. I’ll look into the program the other person commented and see what I find.
So, how exactly did you overcome Point No. 3? Did the way the JLs speak to you as an apprentice have any lasting effect on you? When I was indentured, I had built a reputation as one of the top groundman in my company, excellent JATC scores, attendance, proactive, hungry to learn everything, and humble. But, I, too was not prepared for the way they spoke to me. It has made-me gun-shy. Other apprentices tell me to get it out of my head, to snap-out of it, that it gets better with time, that I will laugh about this when I top-out. However, it causes me anxiety because I am older and have never been treated like this, and it is like I convinced myself that they are right that I make mistakes, am an idiot, a dummy, and lost. Ironically, unlike the other apprentices, I have never really been yelled at. It is just what they say, and I let it get percolate my skull. Like I think it will forever be like this and it is a sign I am a moron. What do you think, BCB?
I know you didn’t ask me, but I talk to our young apprentices who get frustrated with some of our leadership. I tell them to stay positive. Learn from each crew leader. Take the harsh criticism as advice to be better. You have to know WHY you’re here to but be able to get through the nonsense. Psalms 141:5 Let the righteous strike me; it shall be a kindness. And let him rebuke me; it shall be as excellent oil; Let my head not refuse it….. this may seem odd, but I “consider” these these crew leaders as “righteous”. The more I take their criticism as advice, the better my life gets. It all seems unnecessary but the truth is lineman want to surround themselves with people who have thick skin. If you make it, you have brothers for life.
@@outcastfisherman6991 Thank you for your response. I read it over and over. I work very hard, leadership sees it, come very early, am very eager to learn, take notes, study all weekend, and get very good. But what really frustrates me, what makes me so insecure, is that they say, "it takes a day or a few days to learn this," but then when I show up to do it on the first day and make mistakes, they get so pissed off at me, and then I become paranoid that I was judged, written on, that I made the first impression, a bad one, that nothing going forward will rebuild my reputation, and that he/they then secretly work behind the scenes to get me transferred to another crew. Then on the second day when I show up to do the same work but master it, am flawless, some exhibit surprise, "oh, wow," like they think my second day should be the same as my first. I scratch my head so much, so hard at this, and it causes panic in me. Insecurity. Worry. People have to learn (Growth Mindset, Carol Dweck in her famous book). But some people have this Fixed Mindset about others, that if they are making mistakes, they will forever make mistakes. If they are dumb, they are forever dumb. If they are smart, they are forever smart. It really gets under my soul. It's like I have a narrow window to prove myself and for some that window is one day long, at most 10 hours, and then that's it.. Anyhow, I read your response. Thank you. I tend to be my worst critic.
@@outcastfisherman6991 I studied that quote. Oh, and I forgot to mention. Sometimes the foreman doesn't say anything at all, is very cool, but one of the apprentices becomes a total belligerent a-hole. My lady says it is a sign of that apprentice's insecurity, jealousy, impatience, and he projects his frustration out on me. I don't know, I want to believe her, but I now live in my head that I am making mistakes and the apprentice is calling me out on being a dummy. That I am struggling way more than most and unfit for the career. I don't know. I have to refuse to let them get in my head. Please tell me more about the "Want to be surrounded by guys who have thick skin." Please explain.
@@outcastfisherman6991 Thank you for the response. I read it thoroughly. I see the wisdom in it.
Soy liniero electrico en cuba
My son is having trouble with climbing up and down 5 times in 5 minutes. Any advice?
How many feet?
Tell him to hit the gym, legs and upper body workouts.
He should balance his weight off his belt and pole. Every time you pull yourself in if your to far out you will be using a lot of energy pulling yourself into the pole Find the balance to climb.
So you got into an ibew apprenticeship without connections? Times have changed for sure.
haha yes
Be prepared to go on endless searches for tools that don't exist
I’ve been a Utility Assistant for Line Crews and this tracks.
don’t forget to shake the all the static out of the blankets…
Farwest utility tools has everything a lineman needs.
I live in the suburbs of north Philadelphia and want to get into lineman and no luck with google search. Anyone here know where I can look?
Neat Apprenticeship.
CDLs!!!
I don't see the "competition" thing. We can't full positions.
What do you mean?
@@w900kw2 At the companies I've worked at. We always apprenticeships nobody applies to.
depends where you live. in california where the pay is good and weather is nice, good luck getting a quick call off the books unless you know somebody that can call you off by name. hundreds of guys on the lineman and groundman books right now. very, very competitive here
Thanks man this gives me a great wake up call to not get into it 😂.
29 too old? Wife is prego too. But I need to make more money
Been in maintenance/trades work for 10 years so I have definitely had my share of getting shit on haha. Taking it on the chin and staying positive has worked for me so far 😂
@@reformedchinesecommunistno 29 is not too old. There are guys in mid 30’s I know who are just now getting into it.
Why do you think from your perspective it gets a lot of publicity?
There has been a surge of media coverage of blue collar trades in the last three years, of the skilled profession crisis in the nation, in particular at the onset of COVID, and the host of Dirty Jobs, Mike Rowe, injected fresh coverage of skilled-trade work. Many older linemen retired as COVID reached its apex in late 2020/early 2021. So many people from Silicon Valley had begun working from home, EV charging stations are rapidly increasing, some states are switching their dwellings from natural gas to mandatory electric, the grid is expanding and the demand for linemen is soaring, but many during COVID retired. The line trade is the least known among the skilled trades yet dominates the top of the salary heap.
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Any advice for a female veteran looking to get into the trade? I did 11 years in construction while in the military, not electrical though.
make sure to have your cdls first