You are so damn right I'm sick and tired of seeing this. I am SCI C5 quad and I do believe I'm gonna show my own video on how to use a simple two-piece sling is. I've been using it for 30 years and it is so damn easy. This is especially important for us that are home only have one PCA during the day. Even grandma could do it. Be sure to look for my video entitled "2 piece Hoyer sling types".
videos should be made with individuals that use them. My Uncle is paralyzed and has no core control so reality of moving him, toileting, and transferring him are all completely different. Just the daily issue of keeping sheet wrinkles from causing bed sores or keeping his heels off bed to prevent sores are a daily struggle. Real life is much different than these videos......
And yes, real life is much different than the ivory tower world of physical therapy...but a good PT can perform "real world" scenarios just like the "ivory tower" model. It is hard to find "volunteers for these transfers at work because of confidentiality reasons. So they get an able bodied person which is ok but it doesn't give you the "but what if" scenarios. A good PT can do it all, in any situation. There are a few patient's who just are not appropriate for a hoyer but that list is very small. 650 pounds, no trunk control, bed sores, paralysis, body like a water bed mattress, it can still be done...and safely. Chances are there is a sling for just about everyone's situation...BUT these lifts ARE dangerous...NO ROOM FOR ERROR. The confused patient who squirms, wiggles and fights may not be safe for the hoyer.
It would still work but it will take two people...or you can put them to bed, get their pants down and then hoyer to toilet...Why not just change them in bed you ask??? In California the patient has the right to sit on the toilet even if they weigh 500 pounds... Of course sometimes a person needs to sit on the toilet in order to go. That is more of a biological reason than a "but I don't want to."
time....this can be so time consuming for many with a 'weak' bladder. 1:1 care 24/7 may follow a routine but such a number of caregivers with a specific individual is very stressful on a client. 2 staff to transfer via wheelchair is also less 'demeaning' for some elderly or disabled. rsvp
These are great ideas/ equipment but doesn't work on real world. Need to work fast , clients with weak bladder or one who needs to do #2 can't wait on this gizmo.. Bedpan / urinal is much faster and easier. need space too !!! and who has that in the home ! Bed to chair transfer is ok
I have, counting number 6, now. Thankful for it. Its better if you accept that you likely wont be able to rush them to the toilet. It's more about getting them there for cleanup.
Yes you can , also when the toileting has been done you can lift up to wipe and clean the bottom then re - dress underwear on bed , thanks for your questions , Paul
I like how people always demonstrate these products without using an actual person with a disability
You are so damn right I'm sick and tired of seeing this. I am SCI C5 quad and I do believe I'm gonna show my own video on how to use a simple two-piece sling is. I've been using it for 30 years and it is so damn easy. This is especially important for us that are home only have one PCA during the day. Even grandma could do it. Be sure to look for my video entitled "2 piece Hoyer sling types".
videos should be made with individuals that use them. My Uncle is paralyzed and has no core control so reality of moving him, toileting, and transferring him are all completely different. Just the daily issue of keeping sheet wrinkles from causing bed sores or keeping his heels off bed to prevent sores are a daily struggle. Real life is much different than these videos......
Tracie Michael it sounds like you need proper advice it shouldn't be a struggle if you have had professional input.
And yes, real life is much different than the ivory tower world of physical therapy...but a good PT can perform "real world" scenarios just like the "ivory tower" model. It is hard to find "volunteers for these transfers at work because of confidentiality reasons. So they get an able bodied person which is ok but it doesn't give you the "but what if" scenarios. A good PT can do it all, in any situation. There are a few patient's who just are not appropriate for a hoyer but that list is very small. 650 pounds, no trunk control, bed sores, paralysis, body like a water bed mattress, it can still be done...and safely. Chances are there is a sling for just about everyone's situation...BUT these lifts ARE dangerous...NO ROOM FOR ERROR. The confused patient who squirms, wiggles and fights may not be safe for the hoyer.
I seriously don’t like it when they make it look so easy pulling trousers down while sling is around the body is absolutely difficult 😩😩
A good sling to try if a standard toilet sling can't be used or if service user has poor tone or sitting balance !
It would still work but it will take two people...or you can put them to bed, get their pants down and then hoyer to toilet...Why not just change them in bed you ask??? In California the patient has the right to sit on the toilet even if they weigh 500 pounds... Of course sometimes a person needs to sit on the toilet in order to go. That is more of a biological reason than a "but I don't want to."
time....this can be so time consuming for many with a 'weak' bladder. 1:1 care 24/7 may follow a routine but such a number of caregivers with a specific individual is very stressful on a client. 2 staff to transfer via wheelchair is also less 'demeaning' for some elderly or disabled. rsvp
Marcella Hinkell it's usually only used for opening bowels where the person has control and is mostly continent
Marcella Hinkell also evidence proves that 1:1 is in fact less stressful and more intimate for the client in such a personal task.
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These are great ideas/ equipment but doesn't work on real world. Need to work fast , clients with weak bladder or one who needs to do #2 can't wait on this gizmo.. Bedpan / urinal is much faster and easier. need space too !!! and who has that in the home ! Bed to chair transfer is ok
That’s able bodied person on a disabled person it’s a lot different they really have no body balance
What if some one has an incontinence pad on?
Try doing it with end stage dementia patient
I have, counting number 6, now. Thankful for it. Its better if you accept that you likely wont be able to rush them to the toilet. It's more about getting them there for cleanup.
This would be wonderful if CNA's actually bothered to use something like this!
What if the patient didn't have the core strength to sit forward?
You move in close and pull them carefully toward you, leaning onto your core to accomplish the same.
This is very good information for me.
This looks painful on the carer's fingers having to fidgit with the trousers..
Where can I purchase this sling?
this clip could have been way way quicker, it made me think it isnt worth it because it takes so long!
Can you use this straight from the bed
Yes you can , also when the toileting has been done you can lift up to wipe and clean the bottom then re - dress underwear on bed , thanks for your questions , Paul
how much weight it can take
Adv Ajay Dadhwal , our slings take up to 200 -300 kg , more info on www.ospreyslingcompany.com
The chair can take up to 18 stone on hydraulic system , thanks Paul .
They didn't do personal care!!!!
VERY HELPFULL
Caitlin
So at what point do you wipe the bum
Caitlin
Do you want the transfer lift？ We are facatory supply.