Fighter Pilot Reacts to BEHIND ENEMY LINES (Mover Ruins Movies)

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  • Former F/A-18 pilot reacts to BEHIND ENEMY LINES (2001).
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  • @cashonly2539
    @cashonly2539 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1108

    Every pilot's worst nightmare: Guided missile with unlimited fuel

    • @aviationismylife6814
      @aviationismylife6814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Thats nothing those missiles turn better than Russian jets

    • @cameronclark8912
      @cameronclark8912 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Aviation Is My Life , Russian jets have the most agility of any jets in the world. I.E. The SU-35S

    • @RichFreeman
      @RichFreeman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      As I understand it, that isn't too far off from what submarines face with torpedoes, which do circle after losing contact. Though in that situation the whole thing is in slow motion potentially covering miles at 45mph...

    • @AnDroid-ep2kn
      @AnDroid-ep2kn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      russians got missile SSC-X-9 Skyfall with nuclear engine, it can fly unlimitedly.

    • @fredsmith9714
      @fredsmith9714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@cameronclark8912 lol good one. They've got one plane with semi super maneuverability. The Russians still use the cobra as a dog fight tactic...it leaves you with no forward momentum and the wingman will nail you. The f22 can j turn aka Herbst maneuver. If we are comparing aircraft of the same role, Russia is 2 or 3 decades behind. Everyone else (non nato/japan) is 4 decades or more

  • @jimaperkins
    @jimaperkins 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1837

    "I guess if they ran out of flares, the WSO could've armed his seat, jumped out, and been his own flare." - Mover. LOL

    • @austinpacheco7214
      @austinpacheco7214 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Jim Perkins LOL

    • @p4p3rm4t3
      @p4p3rm4t3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I feel like he didn't come up with that on the fly.
      But if you did kudo's that's some funny stuff.

    • @doncarlton4858
      @doncarlton4858 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Brahahaha!

    • @rolling_marbles
      @rolling_marbles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Poor WSO!

    • @Tabaskospecial
      @Tabaskospecial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      That was the funniest thing I’ve ever heard and holy shit he did it with a straight face

  • @LuckyDogGaming
    @LuckyDogGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +352

    “If it’s behind you, it’s gonna hit you...” unless you’re in an SR-71

    • @marchendrickson2382
      @marchendrickson2382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      How'd the Blackbird pilot say it..."though I fly through the valley of death I shall fear no evil, for I'm at 80,000 feet and climbing." Yeah, they've been spooked a few times like over Libya, but never hit.

    • @visionearthcare
      @visionearthcare 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What happens if it is ahead of you?

    • @marchendrickson2382
      @marchendrickson2382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@visionearthcare Many have tried getting in front, Libya was a good example. But speed, altitude, and a good RIO (radar intercept officer for those who don't know) was proven to be too much for the Soviet built SAM systems of the time. As I said, they got spooked, but not touched.

    • @visionearthcare
      @visionearthcare 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@marchendrickson2382 what happens in general say you are in a F-16 and have an advanced radar guided R77/AIM120C/Meteor approaching head-on vis-a-vis in tail chase. Assuming in both cases you have 20sec for impact. Would the pilot try to convert the headon engagement to tailchase for better survivability?

    • @marchendrickson2382
      @marchendrickson2382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@visionearthcare That's where your AWAC's come in handy, to avoid a head on collision with an incoming missile. Would be foolish to do anything but vector to where the missile either misses or ends up with a tail shot at worst. No pilot wants to punch out, but if said missile hits the rear of the aircraft, the pilot will have a better chance of punching out. Head on, 20 seconds till impact, the pilot must turn and burn in hopes to survive.

  • @jackjones3657
    @jackjones3657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    The scene showing the intricacies of the ejection process was a really cool piece of film-work.

    • @tonyfrance4100
      @tonyfrance4100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It's the most accurate ejection sequence I've seen in a movie aside from the length of time from when the handle is pulled to when they're actually out or when the guy gets his legs burned by the rocket motor. The sears cutting the canopy hooks was great to throw in.

    • @Linerunner99
      @Linerunner99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Later in the same movie the slo-mo sequence showing the mines detonate and what they do to the poor bastards caught in the kill zone was good too. Dead before the shrapnel can even reach them... the concussive wave of the blast completely shattering them.

    • @KomradeDoge
      @KomradeDoge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Showing the "Burning" of the HDDs deleting the data on them was the only unrealistic part from what I can tell, at least, its not a physical "burn", more just the computer systems destroying it software wise.

    • @alvon911
      @alvon911 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed 100%. I loved how they drew it out over a long time

    • @foxw875
      @foxw875 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KomradeDoge I think that was more to represent the heat from the ejection seat rocket frying all the components (or at least that was my interpretation)

  • @Adambeerbrewer
    @Adambeerbrewer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +443

    I was on the Vinson when this movie was filmed. We were doing flight ops off the coast of Mexico for this. We got to stay at sea for two extra weeks to shoot the movie, not a lot of happy campers for that. There are only a couple of spots on the carrier footage that are real, they had some made up rooms that are not on the carrier. First off, safety wise and hate to ruin it, but no one would ever be allowed to hold the football for the rabbit to hit. Got to meet some of the actors which was cool. We did get to watch the movie on a big make shift screen on the island, while we we at sea...that was exciting.

    • @theenzoferrari458
      @theenzoferrari458 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Why would they not be happy? They get to do their duty for a film and meet the cast and crew.

    • @ffjsb
      @ffjsb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      @@theenzoferrari458 No replacement for being with your woman....

    • @Adambeerbrewer
      @Adambeerbrewer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      justinl458 it’s not easy being away sometimes, and two more weeks doesn’t seem like much, but it can add up quick when you are out to sea.

    • @theenzoferrari458
      @theenzoferrari458 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ffjsb but you can build up that sexual tension with 2 weeks. Lol

    • @ffjsb
      @ffjsb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@theenzoferrari458 When your boy was told he was gonna get it in a couple of days, then you told your boy he was gonna have to wait a couple more weeks....

  • @lfox02
    @lfox02 4 ปีที่แล้ว +339

    I've got to say, I'm becoming a big fan of Mover Ruins Movies! Do keep doing them!

  • @chappy48
    @chappy48 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I was stationed onboard the Carl Vinson when they shot the movie. Owen Wilson never gave back my shop's mickey mouse ears from when he went onto vultures row to watch flight ops. My Divo actually made it into the movie. She is the one that walks up to Gene Hackman on the flight deck and says he is needed in the SCIF.

  • @shrekvt
    @shrekvt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My very close friend who was a WSO in the Navy in F/A-18s went through full flight school. He later became a test pilot for F/A-18s too.

    • @CWLemoine
      @CWLemoine  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      At that point he was no longer a WSO. He was a pilot.

  • @Bill23799
    @Bill23799 4 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    Admiral Gene Hackman was having flashbacks to when
    he ejected and was trapped behind enemy lines in the film " Bat-21 ".

    • @Biscuitchris7again
      @Biscuitchris7again 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      _Fuck the goddamn swanee._

    • @joelellis7035
      @joelellis7035 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you listen to the dialogue, it's apparent that the writers payed homage to Hackman's role in that other movie. One scene, Wilson's character (Burnett) calls back to the Vincent saying that he was in position and waiting for them to "lay the fairway".

    • @AdamBuckley1964
      @AdamBuckley1964 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great film, and this is definitely a remake of sorts. Enjoyed both

  • @jimmyfreemantle879
    @jimmyfreemantle879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    That comment " the back seater should eject and become a flare" hilarious and shows what some pilots really think about WSOs lol

  • @TCade9
    @TCade9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    “Laces out!! Finkle is Einhorn” I bout died 😂😂😂

    • @kusalwij
      @kusalwij 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ace Venturer reference right? Took a second to realize he actually said that haha

    • @joelellis7035
      @joelellis7035 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Einhorn is a man!" Cue "The Crying Game" music.

    • @ivervj2923
      @ivervj2923 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your gun is digging into my hip... GOOOD

    • @adrianrocha49
      @adrianrocha49 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too, that was hilarious!

    • @florianmaschke269
      @florianmaschke269 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Loooooohooooseeehaaaaa. God, I love that movie. I think the cat would have just ripped the football to pieces.

  • @toddmiller5322
    @toddmiller5322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Ditching multiple SAMs until he was just overwhelmed would have been way more exciting.

  • @RedRazorback15
    @RedRazorback15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +460

    Review Iron Eagle next! Is it possible to single-handedly take out a nation’s Air Force and oil supply in one F-16 while listening to Queen?

    • @hmsmerlin7060
      @hmsmerlin7060 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      And also number II, featuring a pilot with claustrophobia, a bomb that only blows to a verbal radio command within a certain radio distance and a Photon Torp.... I mean a Maverick into the Ventillation shaft. Lets not forget the Mig-29 Phantoms :V

    • @nottydredhed
      @nottydredhed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

    • @Youda00008
      @Youda00008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hmsmerlin7060 It was a Proton torpedo hitting the ventilation shaft!! :D

    • @anthonyhusband3699
      @anthonyhusband3699 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yes Iron Eagle.....Hades Bomb!!!!

    • @MrBen527
      @MrBen527 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh God no!!

  • @isaacwitvoet5525
    @isaacwitvoet5525 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    That Viper HUD footage was insane! I can only imagine the adrenaline that guy must have had. It had me on the edge if my seat lol.

  • @WisperMetal
    @WisperMetal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    I always had the feeling that the main character from GTA IV was made after the bad guy on this movie...Both are way too similar to be a coincidence

    • @littlejimmy8744
      @littlejimmy8744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      they are the same gta 4's Niko is inspired of this guy.

    • @eazy-e9893
      @eazy-e9893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It is the same guy, he is even called niko belic in the movie😅

    • @MrHrBomb
      @MrHrBomb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I think even rockstar approached that actor in this movie to voice niko but he refused

    • @WisperMetal
      @WisperMetal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@eazy-e9893 Oh ok! It had to be something like that!

    • @BopaBola
      @BopaBola 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@eazy-e9893 his name is Sasha ya dolt.

  • @j.w.perkins6004
    @j.w.perkins6004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    "Back in the day" it was not unusual for a pilot to get stuck in a WSO or GIB seat. (which you can guess how the GIB felt). Usually it was a temporary situation because of Vietnam manning and training requirements. I saw an O-3 pilot with low F4 time, sitting behind an experienced high time first lieutenant. It didn't last long, but it was a SH flight lead and the capt. had just arrived from phantom training. The O3 was driving within 3 weeks.

    • @ppsarrakis
      @ppsarrakis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i have no clue about this topic but i though it that would make sense

    • @scottstewart9154
      @scottstewart9154 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My Dad a seasoned F4 pilot rode back seat on Dual Seat A4s that were doing wild weasel missions trying to attract Sams. The A4 was not fast but very agile so it could out turn SAMS. My Dad the f4 pilot said all the maneuvering would make him sick

    • @Laerei
      @Laerei 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scottstewart9154 Interesting, from what I've read, dual-seat A-4s were fairly uncommon and using them in combat was unusual as they were mostly acquired for training.

    • @scottstewart9154
      @scottstewart9154 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Laerei yeah maybe they had some training in actual combat, Im sure my dad didn't make this up he had some amazing flying stories, my parents were divorced and for years he would check out Jets for the weekend and fly cross country to visit us, something you can't get away with now.

  • @wraith0000001
    @wraith0000001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +576

    Do F14's vs Zero's from The Final Countdown. Jolly Rogers.

    • @seanjoseph3813
      @seanjoseph3813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      wraith0000001 YES!!!! one of my favorite films!
      Splash the Zeros

    • @county365
      @county365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Good call on this. I agree.

    • @mauryhatcher
      @mauryhatcher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@seanjoseph3813 "Two Trophy Class Mitsubishi A6Ms in original condition, complete with all markings. I mean, they look brand new sir!"
      Meanwhile the F-14s are wings spread, flaps down, nose high and weaving trying to go slow enough to hold their position in the sun behind the Zeros.

    • @Froobyone
      @Froobyone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Everything about "Splash the Zeros" is 100% authentic and nothing can be ruined. :P

    • @matiascandia4946
      @matiascandia4946 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thats exactly what I thought too.

  • @stephen_101
    @stephen_101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Damn that F16 footage is intense - anyone else tense up a little watching it?

    • @TomP-148
      @TomP-148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      The full video is 9 minutes long, about 3 minutes if him dodging 6 Sam's. If I remember right there's a climps of a telephone poles size missile flying right in front of him.

    • @dotancohen
      @dotancohen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Mover should definitely got over that one with explanations.

    • @watchinyourback295
      @watchinyourback295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anyone have the original link for that?

    • @TomP-148
      @TomP-148 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@watchinyourback295 you can just TH-cam it.

    • @watchinyourback295
      @watchinyourback295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TomP-148 thank you Captain Obvious. I meant for someone to post the link.

  • @MMACHMP
    @MMACHMP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    And Owen yelling out no when the pilot is shot in the head would be a huge NO-NO totally alerted bad guys to his presence

    • @MMACHMP
      @MMACHMP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Kyle Reese I would have never left him behind like that I would have fireman carried his ass outta there

    • @NoodleBoy26
      @NoodleBoy26 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MMACHMP Yeah, when he did I was like wtf, seeing as they just got SHOT down too

    • @novasmith
      @novasmith 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Something has to trigger the chase and rest of the movie.

  • @Shooter762
    @Shooter762 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That Desert Storm video always gives me chills.

  • @GrayM84
    @GrayM84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    Would be cool to get a break down of that F-16 getting fired upon or the F-14 engaging those MiG-23s in 1989.

    • @MatraBatra
      @MatraBatra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      was thinking the same thing

    • @kestrel16c32
      @kestrel16c32 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I like the fact that the radio chat from those clips has been integrated into Falcon 4.0's menu music.

    • @deangelojeremitriusvickers6319
      @deangelojeremitriusvickers6319 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed!

    • @afterburn2600
      @afterburn2600 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This. Would LOVE a breakdown.

    • @walacenz
      @walacenz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      BOTH. Mover... please... do BOTH. But slow it down to C172 speed - It's all going on too fast for my tiny little brain to comprehend.

  • @mississippirebel1409
    @mississippirebel1409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Even though I'm an army guy (served 11 yrs as an officer in the US army 2000-2011), I really enjoy your channel! I remember during my tour in Iraq an F-14 (before they were retired) was coming back from a bombing mission I guess and had seen our little FOB on his flight in and on his flight back he he decided to give us a little show. He came down really low and gave us a big boom!!! It was aways but scared the shit out of some of the guys because they didn't know what was going on.
    I was a always a HUGE fan of attack helicopters, especially the Apache because I have seen them in action in real combat. I those bastards will fuck you up and you won't even know they are circling over your head lol. I'm a fan of the movie Fire Birds lol.

    • @HillTrekkerSarge
      @HillTrekkerSarge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Back in the late 80's we did a CAX out at 29 Palms. There was a Navy F-18 squadron also supporting us on the air side of the house. We were there for a month I think. When it was all done they treated all of us, ground and air side, to big ass feast of grilled steaks, baked potatoes and beer (two apiece lol). After we ate and all the skipper of the Navy F-18 squadron put on a show for us with that beautiful beast out there in the beautiful high desert mountains. He put on that show for about 30 minutes and did some really low passes over us, sonic boomed, verticals etc. That was so freaking cool. The old man had us Marines whooping and hollering with that mini air show. Good memories.

  • @jglendening2
    @jglendening2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I enjoyed watching the RFMDS footage at Nellis AFB, Red Flag back in the 80's. Saw some interesting safety videos. An F-4 merging with an F-16 and they clipped wings. The F-16 lost its right wing, pilot ejected and was ok. The F-4 Flew back to Nellis with slight damage. Also the Engagement tapes from the SAM/AAA sites was amazing. Especially explaining to an A-6 pilot how he got toasted by a AAA with the cross hairs locked onto his helmet for 4 seconds as the gun was firing.

  • @911jdc
    @911jdc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was a Marine on the USS Kearsarge when Scott O'Grady was rescued. That was a good day.

  • @colderwar
    @colderwar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I saw Mover Ruins Movies and clicked so fast my finger was moving at Mach 1.4 when it hit the mouse button...

    • @stick-itproductions.3307
      @stick-itproductions.3307 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Poor little mouse.

    • @colderwar
      @colderwar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't worry, the mouse saw me coming, did a hard break and shot me in the face with a heater...

    • @TormentedPenguin
      @TormentedPenguin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      did you miss and come back for another shot at clicking.. like unlimited fuel missiles do?

  • @5thGenNativeTexan
    @5thGenNativeTexan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Loving the "Mover Ruins Movies" reviews. I'll throw another vote in for Iron Eagle reaction. Looked around an F-16B intercom and couldn't find the 1/8th inch audio input for my cassette player. ;)

    • @fwicket
      @fwicket 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      upupaepops it’s built into helmets audio cable by your friendly and ever so helpful ATs and AEs. All you have to do is go down and order them to make you one.

    • @5thGenNativeTexan
      @5thGenNativeTexan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fwicket Was a bit a tongue-and-cheek humor on my part fwicket. I'm very familiar with the comms stack and intercom setup. ;) I run a similar setup on my helmet with a Sigtronics unit.

    • @BinaryReplicant
      @BinaryReplicant 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Citizen cassette player he had actually had two speakers (for stereo) on the back, so that's what he was listening to.

    • @5thGenNativeTexan
      @5thGenNativeTexan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BinaryReplicant Actually, it's an Aiwa, and more specifically an HS-P02. No speakers on those. ;)

    • @BinaryReplicant
      @BinaryReplicant 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      upupaepops, I stand corrected. :) As I haven't seen Iron Eagle in thirty years, I thought I remembered it as a Citizen (can't recall the model number) that had two speakers on the back and had a similar colour enclosure.

  • @SRFriso94
    @SRFriso94 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I watched this movie with my best friend when I was young, we were huge into fighter jets as young boys often are, and I loved it. Now, this might be a bit of nostalgia blinding me, even though I can see the flaws of it more now, I still like it. Especially the chase scene, which I watched again entirely just now, and even with the knowledge that the missiles have infinite fuel, it's 1000% riveting. Because they had a real jet flying through a real valley, it doesn't matter how fake the missiles are, it feels visceral. At the end of the day, it's a movie, not a training video on what to do if you get targeted in a fighter jet by a SAM site, so I can forgive a lot of those flaws.

  • @jessebrame
    @jessebrame 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I was on the Vinson when they filmed it. Actually I'm in one of the scenes, but literally just for a few seconds. Have some friends that were in some longer shots. The Super Hornet flying footage was cool. It was fun to be part of the making of it, but I never liked this movie. They used real USMC Huey's when they did the shots on the boat and then switched to a mix of other Huey variants for the scenes on land. I always think it's lame when movies makers think no one will notice the aircraft switch. CVNs don't normally have Huey's onboard, so I enjoyed working with them. I guess no one cares except the people that care about that stuff, lol.

    • @crispay8304
      @crispay8304 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s pretty cool

    • @hxhdfjifzirstc894
      @hxhdfjifzirstc894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is cool that you got to be part of a movie... but you're also right that the movie sucked ass. Not the worst ever, but not worth watching twice, unfortunately. There's so much room to make great movies in this genre, and it almost never happens. Hollywood is run by idiots who hate America.

    • @jessebrame
      @jessebrame 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hxhdfjifzirstc894 Well said!

    • @bodazaphfa
      @bodazaphfa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      CAG-7/11. We were a west coast squadron stationed on the east coast and attached to CVN-70 at the time. Good times.

  • @Garythefireman66
    @Garythefireman66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This was a really good movie. Gene Hackman is always great. His role in Crimson Tide is better, but this was was pretty close.

  • @MrStarTraveler
    @MrStarTraveler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    They could have changed his role from a pilot to a wiso in the last moment. But what I think is more likely, is that the film makers don't have a clue, and think that wisos are full fledged pilots who take the wiso role as needed.

    • @djphranque143
      @djphranque143 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am not military, but based on the disabling scene, could he have been a pilot and knocked down to wiso?

    • @MrStarTraveler
      @MrStarTraveler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@djphranque143 I'm not an expert either, but that doesn't sound too unlikely. So yep, could be the case.

    • @KjetilBalstad
      @KjetilBalstad 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@djphranque143 I don't see this happening. Sure, pilots could probably become WSO's for what ever reason, but would not be knocked down to WSO as some kind of punishments. Hell, WSO is not even a lower "grade" or position than a pilot, it's a different one. Some times the WSO can even be higher ranked than the pilot and act as commanders for the mission.

    • @TruthNerds
      @TruthNerds 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@KjetilBalstad And it requires much different training. That would be like being "demoted" from racing driver to car mechanic. Sure, there would be some skill transfer but you'd have to acquire a lot of completely new knowledge.

  • @0wen101
    @0wen101 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I must have watched this epic sequence a million times now. It never get's old and is yet to be bettered. Screw the realism.

  • @Sk4Madhi_.RangeroftheNorth
    @Sk4Madhi_.RangeroftheNorth 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I only found out about Mover this morning and working my way through all his Ruins Movies.
    I'm finding them fascinating.
    Thanks C.W. 👍🏽
    From the UK.

  • @1roanstephen
    @1roanstephen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was was talking to a young man who wanted to be a fighter pilot but has less than perfect vision and so assumed he wasn't qualified. I got to use your motto: "Make them tell you no" and encouraged him to apply and gave him your channel.

    • @mitri5389
      @mitri5389 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      and than get a shitty mos for 8 years when most of them fail. only 1 to 2 % become pilots the rest are fucked out luck.

  • @briandaniels679
    @briandaniels679 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love this new series! I think Behind Enemy Lines is very entertaining. The beginning of the movie, what you covered here, is the best part of the movie. Nothing will ever take the place of the Tomcat in my heart, but this movie puts the Hornet up there close.
    I know your expertise probably doesn't cover dogfighting UFOs, but please do Independence Day!😁

  • @leemcintire5948
    @leemcintire5948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The real F16 footage was actually more thrilling than the scene from the movie. I could feel the pilot's anxiety whoa.

  • @goatbacon2977
    @goatbacon2977 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just stumbled across this , you got a new sub and fan !! Currently binge watching your playlist rn

  • @rekunta
    @rekunta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    “But you became a WSO” 🤔
    😂

  • @vladealeksic3348
    @vladealeksic3348 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    They were conducting an no fly zone over Bosnia, same route every day.

    • @stevem2323
      @stevem2323 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And not expecting someone to engage them with SAM.

    • @latoyamcdonald4444
      @latoyamcdonald4444 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was a different incident that involved an F-117 same war though.

    • @BS-bx4oy
      @BS-bx4oy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@latoyamcdonald4444
      F-117 was shot down in 1999 during a Kosovo War, F-16 was shot down in 1995 during the wars following the breakup of SFR Yugoslavia. Different wars

  • @minedphreak8487
    @minedphreak8487 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seriously just found your channel today when I watched your video on the movie Flight and I instantly subscribed when you said "giggity" about max speed turbulent penetration.....But the "Laces out!" comment....Dude you are seriously becoming one of my heros!

  • @michaelhiggins9495
    @michaelhiggins9495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your channel was in my recommendations. Don’t know why, I’ve watched 4 of your videos. I’m now subscribed.

  • @MousedaDrumma
    @MousedaDrumma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Additionally, thank you for explaining the Ejection process to put it in a good perspective. Not many people understand just how intense it is. One last thing I forgot to critique: the black box is part of the aircraft, not the seat, so the whole plot twist for the end of the movie is BS. Love, A friendly neighborhood Rocket Chair Repairman.

    • @tinderella2386
      @tinderella2386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The thing he’s recovering isn’t the black box though is it?!
      The black box is purely recording flight data. He recovered the hard drive the reconnaissance camera was recording to.

  • @joelellis7035
    @joelellis7035 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yeah, I enjoyed this movie too. Incidentally, the production was sued be Scott O'Grady for using story elements without his permission. But, yeah, I remember the scene with the missiles and thinking "what kind of missiles are those that pull all of those maneuvers?" Former SAM operator here and remember how our missiles pretty much ended their boost phase within a few seconds and would coast in a ballistic trajectory after that. Although they did have guidance, but we were told that they had at most one turn in them.

  • @kevinpatterson748
    @kevinpatterson748 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are awesome!!!! Grew up as a navy brat who's dad was on a carrier. I always looked at stuff and been like " that wouldn't happen " it is so funny to watch you react!!!!

  • @jonathanperry5618
    @jonathanperry5618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    EOD here. I remember watching this during an ORE at Hill and we were cracking up at the world’s slowest SAMs and the little APERS mines that couldn’t. Great movie though!

  • @sneibarg
    @sneibarg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's interesting to read about how awards were given during the Vietnam war. I had a brief correspondence with the son of Captain Henry Halleland who was my uncle's XO and then CO of the VF-114. He received multiple awards of the DFC primarily for dodging the SA-2 while flying for the VF-114. When I was reading about Robin Olds, he described dodging the SA-2 as very easy and Business As Usual / all in a day's work.

  • @trekkeruss
    @trekkeruss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When Owen Wilson is getting dressed down, I thought I was watching a remake of Top Gun.
    Love "Mover Ruins Movies." Subscribed!

    • @WheelsRCool
      @WheelsRCool 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's like a shtick of military movies, where the hero is a bad-ass who's always getting dressed down by his superiors, same with a lot of cop movies.

  • @gokaired4973
    @gokaired4973 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've seen that F16 video before...watched it probably 50 times by now, lol. Loving this MRM thing you've been doing, keep up the awesome work!

  • @erickalvarez8516
    @erickalvarez8516 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent!! Excellent!! Thank you very much for your analysis of this movie, my favorite to this day! Great your analysis and explanation of the missiles. I'll keep waiting for your videos! Cheers

  • @numberyellow
    @numberyellow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lack of realism aside, Behind Enemy Lines is one of my favorite films.

  • @nottydredhed
    @nottydredhed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    U gotta do those "Iron Eagle" movies

    • @AG-wg1sy
      @AG-wg1sy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That's the first thing I thought of.. then laughed uncontrollably.... Mover would never be able to make it through the first 2min... FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, FAKE, Fake, FAKE so on an so on ROFL

    • @Dustin_N
      @Dustin_N 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Chappy!

    • @LONGIRAFFE
      @LONGIRAFFE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      How dare you! The Iron Eagle movies are national treasures!

    • @michaelnichols1977
      @michaelnichols1977 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I sure he'll find iron eagle to be more of a documentary than cinematic genius. But I'd certainly love to get his take. 😉

    • @dasmorbo3508
      @dasmorbo3508 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Complete BS is the short summary. Even 20 years back as a 15 year old I could figure that out.

  • @thevictoryoverhimself7298
    @thevictoryoverhimself7298 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In navy ROTC they played this movie to us pretty much on a constant loop.

  • @rushbrooke55
    @rushbrooke55 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ace Ventura quote made me laugh way more than it should 😂 love your videos man! Keep em coming 👍🏻

  • @martin.B777
    @martin.B777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The "behind enemy lines" scenes were shot in Zadiel/Haj, Slovakia! Nice region, with many MTB trails.😉✈

  • @MikeAvallon
    @MikeAvallon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Flight of the Intruder would be a good one.

    • @velvetplatz1024
      @velvetplatz1024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Great book too. Written by a former Naval Aviator, Stephen Coonts. Flight Of The Intruder is actually the first book in a long series... great read though.

    • @cw93711
      @cw93711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great movie. Even greater book series by Steven coonts former naval aviater

    • @yxeaviationphotog
      @yxeaviationphotog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually, Flight of the Intruder was pretty accurate for the most part. Thought it was a great movie.

    • @dotancohen
      @dotancohen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And Flight of the Navigator while you're at it!

    • @rzr2ffe325
      @rzr2ffe325 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "Iron hand is my shit man"

  • @Sirmellowman
    @Sirmellowman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I instantly got chills when you played that real life footage....damn.

  • @jonb2911
    @jonb2911 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I could just imagine real pilots seeing this for the first time thinking, “So we dog fighting missiles now”

  • @stevesmith1810
    @stevesmith1810 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "and obviously you wouldn't be dogfighting the missile."
    You. Don't. Know. Me. LOL

  • @Thatguy01984
    @Thatguy01984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I loved this movie, I do remember in the theater thinking to myself "those are some damn efficient missiles" Cant go wrong with real jet footage and Gene Hackman is always fun to watch

  • @tristanholland6445
    @tristanholland6445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The HUD footage at the end "everyone wants to be a fighter pilot until you gotta do fighter pilot sxxx" you can tell the pucker factor was high there because the guys voice was getting high pitched.
    I used to see F-16 and A-10 landing at Ramstein AB from Spanghlem AB to get bombed up and head for KOSOVO. Former USAF aerospace ground support equipment tech here.

    • @tristanholland6445
      @tristanholland6445 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @UC1YqbNuTDCfUEs6SEF0M9IA out of Aviano or Spanghhelm circa 1999-2002? If you ever diverted to Ramstein I probably saw you maybe if I wasn't busy on the flightline my flight was in support of the transient AMC aircraft so we had equipment for every heavy in the USAF except of course for bombers. A Bone did divert once sat for 3 days waiting on a replacement engine to get delivered by C-17. One of the other AGE flights had the -60s for fighters and bomb lifts.

  • @AirForceBuilder
    @AirForceBuilder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not a pilot, but USAF GCI controller and a Weapons School grad. We do this with EVERY military movie we watch. Just can't help it. I loved this video. Great commentary!

  • @MatraBatra
    @MatraBatra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Would be cool if you could break down that F-16 video, comms/maneuvers and such

    • @dotancohen
      @dotancohen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This, please!

    • @johnirby8847
      @johnirby8847 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What would you like to know?

  • @wikary4284
    @wikary4284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:50 Remember, always trim full right rudder and override fcs to fix flaps for landing before taking off from a carrier

  • @mikedepaz666
    @mikedepaz666 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    SUPERB REACTION! VERY INFORMATIVE AND SO DETAILED ON MILTARY TERMS, NOT SURPRISED THOUGHT CAUSE IT'S COMING FROM A SEASONED AND WELL EXPERIENCED FIGHTER PILOT ! KEEP IT UP SIR !

  • @ortzak
    @ortzak 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this scene...glad i found your channel!!

  • @aleemabdullah8192
    @aleemabdullah8192 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your videos are great and we learn alot from you. It really tells that the job of a fighter pilot and the threats he faces in real world are far more greater than what we see in movies. But what I learnt from your videos that WSO does not have much work in the jets then why they are used? I mean single seater jets are better this way.

  • @skagerstrom
    @skagerstrom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man that real SAM movie was kind of nerv wracking. You could hear the fear in the pilots voice :O

  • @Commandoswede
    @Commandoswede ปีที่แล้ว

    First of, I love the channel. Being someone who knows very little about planes and what they and their pilots can do, your channel is a goldmine. I also realise how much of the stuff in movies, has got nothing to do with reality. 😂. BUT this is very informative and interesting. Good work C.W. Keep it up.

  • @johnv.902
    @johnv.902 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good recap, this came out right after I got my wings as a WSO/EWO, where’s the love? Spot on for the SAM engagement, laughed like crazy about how that missile engagement lasted that long.

  • @KINGWAVERLY144K
    @KINGWAVERLY144K 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I actually love this movie lmao and the cinematography was sick!

  • @deangelojeremitriusvickers6319
    @deangelojeremitriusvickers6319 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Stackhouse survived the head shot because he became a lawyer in NYC. Suits told me so😂

    • @KjetilBalstad
      @KjetilBalstad 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No no no, that was his evil tween.

  • @TheKusa5
    @TheKusa5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That footage of the F-16 dodging all the SAMs still stresses me the hell out.

    • @FlyingTigersKMT
      @FlyingTigersKMT หลายเดือนก่อน

      F18 Super Hornet. Navy. F16 Fighting Falcon is Air Force.

  • @Fred_Nickles
    @Fred_Nickles ปีที่แล้ว

    "Laces out! Finkle is Eihnhorn"
    Such a great mash up of movies

  • @kodefashmodefa
    @kodefashmodefa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ive never flown any fighter but flipping the master arm switch when you’re about to go from 0-150 knots off the end of a boat doesn’t sound like a great idea, especially with all that carrier crew around.

    • @lcfflc3887
      @lcfflc3887 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hollywood lies all The time.

  • @blacknighted
    @blacknighted 4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Pilots treat wso like a office boss treats his secretary, pretty disgusting.

    • @cocknballtorturer6839
      @cocknballtorturer6839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      WSO dont really do much

    • @truta3715
      @truta3715 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@turnermkvmi08 Are you a WSO right?

    • @cocknballtorturer6839
      @cocknballtorturer6839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@turnermkvmi08 I fly F-16s for the Royal Netherlands Air Force

    • @IrrationalDJ
      @IrrationalDJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@turnermkvmi08 thats fucking savage

    • @AirForceBuilder
      @AirForceBuilder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well in all fairness, one is called the AC, right?

  • @toddyoung569
    @toddyoung569 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed your breakdown. Would like to see you do more movie reviews like this.

  • @abdeldjalilderouiche5206
    @abdeldjalilderouiche5206 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, i would like to mention something, the real incident took place with f16, call code was Bash. The SAM battery was made in the Soviet era, and the commander of that unit played a smart move against the f16. There was a single pilot, and he made it out alive.

  • @isaacwitvoet5525
    @isaacwitvoet5525 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just hit the like button on your videos before even watching them anymore cause I already know they're gonna be good lol.
    Seriously, great video man! Thx

  • @Eotarc
    @Eotarc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    For some reason, I thought carrier qualifications went hand in hand with flying the Hornet. What is required to move on to carrier qualifications and why didn't you pursue it?

    • @Rock7132
      @Rock7132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I believe he transferred to the Navy from the Air Force. So he didn't start as a Naval Aviator, hence no carrier experience.

    • @Nghilifa
      @Nghilifa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rock7132 I think he was in the Navy reserves. I guess only the Fleet Squadrons do Carquals.

    • @cw93711
      @cw93711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He was in guard unit and then he had kidney disease so he only flew for a year in navy but technically less than a year since he was arguing with waivers etc since it has the first year. He ended up back in air Force flying the T38 aggressor squadron roll.

    • @danmcw7443
      @danmcw7443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Mars Exulte Well said. I flew CF-18 Hornets in Canada for 10 years (1,200 hours, including part-time on staff tours). Never once did any Canadians fly off carriers, except for a few who went on Exchange with the USN and got carrier qualified. Aircraft type does not equal carrier qualification.

    • @ChrisZwolinski
      @ChrisZwolinski 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mars Exulte Many countries do fly Hornets and as such DO get their Carrier Quals. I remember having several Canadian Forces pilots getting their time in when I was abroad the Ike. Makes sense when you think about how we’re in the Middle East and they may need somewhere closer than base to get too because of fuel issues etc.

  • @norbertblackrain2379
    @norbertblackrain2379 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really enjoyed it when i saw it 1st ages ago. Especially while the memory of what happened in the Balkan in the 90ths was still fresh.

  • @NickB1121
    @NickB1121 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool. My uncle was on the USS Carl Vinson decades back when I was a kid. I remember him having photos of that ship all over his house.

  • @jengland8519
    @jengland8519 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mover ruins movies needs to do "Into the Sun". Lots of F-16 and Mirage scenes.

  • @morsinimicis8737
    @morsinimicis8737 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good afternoon from a Britain free of Europe 😂🇬🇧

  • @dshodaw
    @dshodaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the movie, I rewatch it every few years. Also happy you pointed out how overly dramatic the missile scene was.

  • @lancedibble4724
    @lancedibble4724 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nahhhh....you folks missed it when that missile stopped off @ the local Chevron to refuel!👍😃🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @AlvoGTR
    @AlvoGTR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've always loved that Iraq footage - maybe you could break that down? That'd be interesting.

  • @lordbeartic1045
    @lordbeartic1045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Le Chevalier Du Ciel please! Would love to see your take on that one. Or even Stealth, hahahaha!

    • @notthatdonald1385
      @notthatdonald1385 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Yugoslavia a 'stealth' F-117 caught a "golden bb" as the pilots called it. Though google calls it a S-125. Put enough triple A up there and you're bound to hit something eventually.

    • @realQuiGon
      @realQuiGon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh yes please! The movie's international name is Sky Fighters. Best flying scenes I've ever seen in a movie!

    • @HillTrekkerSarge
      @HillTrekkerSarge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, ditto on the French fighter pilot's movie. It has:
      1. Actual Mirage flying scenes
      2. Babes...I think just about every woman in the movie was fine.
      3. Cool panoramic shots of what I assume are the French Alps.
      4. Bad guys get done in.
      5. Did I mention it has babes?

    • @troymurray7492
      @troymurray7492 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notthatdonald1385 the Battery commander and the pilot actually met in 2011. They reportedly developed a friendship. The Battery commander trained his unit to turn on their systems for 17 seconds, and only picked up the Nighthawk when it's weapons doors were opened. Pretty cool, story, except for the fact we never attempted to put ordinance on the wreckage, and the Serbs sent sections of the aircraft to Russia and China. I was in Bosnia as a member of an ADA unit when this happened. Camp Comanche. C Btry 4/5 ADA, 1st Cavalry Divison.

  • @darrell20741
    @darrell20741 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It has been too long since I have seen it, so this gives me reason to see it again (thanks). I still have the DVD :-)

  • @tripodcatz5532
    @tripodcatz5532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best airplane adventure movie ever made, 'Air Force One', topped ALL of this. My favorite quote was from William H. Macy's character (an Air Force general) in reply to (President) Harrison Ford's character when the latter asked the Air Force General if "he knew how to fly a plane?" "No Sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!", Macy replies, despite the Command Pilot Wings affixed to his chest. :(

    • @andymiller6661
      @andymiller6661 ปีที่แล้ว

      William H Macy's character was a major, not a general.

  • @maccabee7
    @maccabee7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’d like to get your analysis on JAG. There’s lots of material there.

  • @chazflyz
    @chazflyz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    MASTER ARM on the catapult... seems legit. 👍🤣

  • @MikeK2100
    @MikeK2100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for MST300ing it. I think the scene that stands out in my mind was when he stops the pickup truck and meets Elvis. I enjoyed the movie.

  • @WarriorPleb
    @WarriorPleb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the build up was cool and the music playing when the superhornet gets done in was awesome

  • @danielodette6013
    @danielodette6013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    God, this movie suffers *hard* from '90s editing. That entire opening where we get the actor credit roll and all that is just nothing but FAST CUT FAST CUT RAPID PAN RAPID PAN
    It's a real product of its era and I think it's just dumb enough for me to love it

  • @robertdickerson16
    @robertdickerson16 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When a missile misses,does it simply explode or just fall out of the sky and land as a dud?

    • @otstoia
      @otstoia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe they can be command detonated by the launch site controller... you wouldn't want them landing on your own country and stuff. That was the case over North Vietnam.

    • @rafe1482
      @rafe1482 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      it has a failsafe where it explodes after a certain max distance

    • @GRIM_7REAPER
      @GRIM_7REAPER 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@otstoia Peace, Hell... Bomb Hanoi!

  • @toddy2519
    @toddy2519 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interestingly the movie showed the camera that's normally mounted on the F/A 18 Hornet. That camera is made by Zeiss Optikal, Germany using 70mm roll film...not digital. Digital technology for that camera wasn't available at the time it was invented. I worked the final four years of the project (KS153B), 1996-2000. I worked directly for/under the Executive Vice President of Special Projects and he was the liaison between Zeiss and the US Navy. My job as Senior CADD engineer was translating the hundreds of blueprints from German into English. (I don't speak a word of German)!
    The resolution of that camera was so high it could read a license plate from a 12-mile slant angle...an amazing piece of optical equipment!
    Thank you for reviewing the movie...it gave me something to brag about. ::grinning::

  • @GBY13
    @GBY13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my favorite movie so I am happy to hear every time you say "this is realistic" :-)

  • @victor9
    @victor9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    can you please do a video on that clip of the guy dodging sams in real life and just break it down as much as you can

  • @mustafalafta4315
    @mustafalafta4315 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    6:55 lol WSO s ARE Expendables to you lol they are good at dialing the ILS course for you

  • @ThomasSoles
    @ThomasSoles 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, shipmate! I worked the flight deck as a blue shirt and then red when I went DC.

  • @IrwinDeGannes
    @IrwinDeGannes 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my favourite movies of all time, Love this movie!