The Japanese turntables from the late '70s and early '80s were awesome. They were the best engineered turntables because records were the highest fidelity playback system. The development of turntables after the advent of CDs took a back seat.
Ready for a strange comment? Anyone ever tell you that you have a soothing voice? Your voice is very soothing, relaxed and gentle! Ha ha. Love it, man! You should audition for doing soothing voiceover for relaxation music!
@@Tharbamar we even had to get it fixed once long story my cousin fell into it u can imagine my dad wasnt happy and it was only a minor fix so it all worked out well.
I love love my Technics 1600MK2 it’s fully automatic and allows me the pleasure to repeat playback. Nothing sucks more than to having to restart an album once it’s done playing
Note: It is better to remove the dust cover completely during operation, because it affects the scanning process negatively like a bell. Professional devices are never operated with a dust cover neither open nor closed, because it is only a dust protection when the device is at rest. Trust me. (,':--))
If they make one like this today, they have to sell it for $3k minimum, used price of this table is already exceeded or higher than original price, inflation aside. Well refurbished models with new chassis go for $1500 to $2500 from Germany.
@@Tharbamar your exactly right i was going to say the same atleast 3-4k built like stock, Then you add the modification like you did dang i would love to have that turntable ! Its a true Gem i remb pics in Crutchfield magazine of this turntable !! Its a keeper for sure i bet it sounds fantastic !
I had four tables, Technics SL-QL15, Denon DP-47F, Marantz TT-15 and TEAC TN-300, I like the DP-47F most for my music listening, I gave QL-15 to a friend and sold TT-15.
@@Tharbamar The german DP-47Fs for that kind of money are heavily modified, not sure it's a fair comparison with stock. I bought mine for 250€ from Ebay germany.
Where did you get the extra gold headshell? I have been looking for years for an extra PCL-40 headshell (or clone) for my DP-47F. I have ordered two headshells online which are supposed to be PCL-40 clones and what I got was clones of the PCL-30 which is shorter than the PCL-40 and will not accept my large cartridges. Did you ever consider adding some weight to your lighter headshell/cartridge so that your cartridges all weigh the same so you don't need to adjust the counterweight? Like you I do love my DP-47F, of my three turntables it gets the most use because it just works and is so easy to use.
I'm sure replacing the tone arm cables would be a big improvement. Something I am not so sure I would have the skill to do. I just recently got a new Ortofon Blue cart and am very pleased. Seems to be real synergy between the DP-47F and the Ortofon. What protractor do you use for alignment if you don't mind my asking? I bought one several years ago from a place in Ukraine seems to be spot on.
Thank you for doing this. I have always admired this table but wasn’t sure about reliability. I see why you like this table so much. I missed out on one by a day. I own a VPI Classic and it can be a bear to set up with that unipivot arm, which is good but azimuth can be tricky sometimes. VPI set up tools gets you close, but to get even more accurate takes time. I love the table, but like I said it can be a challenge, but the thing I like a lot about the VPI Classic is that you can remove the arm and VPI has a solid upgrade path. Is there a piece that comes with the Denon like the Technics that you slide the head shell into to make sure the azimuth and alignment is proper. You summed it up nicely by saying I could buy more but why?
It will be depending on the price, KEF LS50 Wireless is very good around $2K, JBL 308 MK2 is great buy if your listening position is within 10ft which is very good price to sound quality, Thanks
I just bought a Denon DP-37F and love it! I’m thinking about upgrading to a Nagaoka MP-150, I wonder how it compares to your cartridge? What do you recommend? Thanks
I’ve been watching for a while now and have picked up some equipment from your reviews. My wife is amazed how good all of our favorite music sounds. Now that we have a more trained ear, she wants a better system in her vehicle! Thanks for all the great vids we really enjoy them!
@@billybullfrog I would stay with MM If I were you because many MC Carts are low outputs and you will need step up transformer to sound their best, there are reasonably priced good sounding MM cartridges like Shure M97Xe or Nagaoka MP series like you had mention above and Audio-Technica VM series etc, thanks
Thats a very nice table ! I saw them back in the day in my holy grail magazine Crutchfield! That was my internet from 89-99 until i got my license and drove to dealer shops ! That was exspensive table ! Wasn't their a DP-49F also but yeah in 1996 money compares to todays money it would be close to 2k without modifications thanks for the overview !
@@Tharbamar Not counting the mods yes it would still be up there ! They were like 700.ishUS back then I bought the new Techniques SA-TA50 back them it was about the same price I loved that 6ch amp it was Pure Analog had to by matching 6ch player
Hello dude, do you know the measurement size of the screws used for the feet or for the Martin Logan alternatives you use, trying to deterring how many millimetres they are, thanks.
I am so sick of the non automatic Turntables for the high end that dominate the market . Why don't high end manufacturers create more automatic Options? I would be willing to bet that there are many many people who would purchase these and they are losing out on a big segment.
@@citronski I'm dreading the day Techmoan admits that CD is the superior format... Then the price of used CD's will go through the roof. I've been enjoying collecting my favourite music on CD, free from surface noise and wow and flutter and inner groove distortion.
@@revokdaryl1 Luckily i got a DP-47F for 250€ locally, so i have mine. I think CDs will never rise in price, eventually most CD-Players will be broken and can't be reapired, laser diodes have a natural decay, even if unused. Record players will be able to be repaired for a long time in contrast. I have bought entire collections in the last years for less than 200€ at times, picked the cherries, ripped and sold the rest on.
@@citronski I understand the love affair with vinyl very well, believe me. The last cartridge I bought was a low output dual moving coil Audio Technica OC9 III. That cartridge was ridiculously good sounding, even with my lowly Pro Ject Phono Box S. It would have sounded much better with a better phono stage for sure. What ruined vinyl for me was tinkering with the VTA and antiskate. I got so caught up with fine tuning adjustments that it ruined the experience for me. That and I was suddenly experiencing speed issues with my turntable. I eventually gave up on vinyl because of this and went back to CD and FLAC/WAV. And dipped my toes into Super Audio CD territory, which has been very rewarding. DSD is superior to PCM. I do plan on getting a proper analog reel to reel deck at some point.
Can you say what type of headshell the gold headshell is and where to buy it? I have this same tt and want a second headshell. Thank you for the good video.
HI there!! I have this turntable - it was handed down to me from a family member- but I have no idea how to set it up with speakers. Any advice much appreciated!
Hi, you need a amplifier with phono stage to connect your turntable, which is varied in price. If you have powered speakers you just need to buy a phono stage to connect them, for that iFi Zen phone is very good, thanks
Nice review! I have this turntable and need to replace the stylus. I currently have a Shure VST III cartridge and wonder if you can help me find a replacement stylus and/or cartridge. Thanks.
As beautiful as all these devices are, and whatever good job they did back then, their time is over. There is no reasonable reason to invest in this old technique other than nostalgia. (',:--/)
What a fantastic turntable. I don't understand why. manufacturers don't make fully automatics anymore.
The Japanese turntables from the late '70s and early '80s were awesome. They were the best engineered turntables because records were the highest fidelity playback system. The development of turntables after the advent of CDs took a back seat.
Ready for a strange comment? Anyone ever tell you that you have a soothing voice? Your voice is very soothing, relaxed and gentle! Ha ha. Love it, man! You should audition for doing soothing voiceover for relaxation music!
Thanks Sean.
@@Tharbamar I have a 1980s mitsubishi with linear tracking
@@stpworld great table.
@@Tharbamar we even had to get it fixed once long story my cousin fell into it u can imagine my dad wasnt happy and it was only a minor fix so it all worked out well.
I absolutely adore my Denon turntables. My Denon cassette decks are pretty good, too.
Nice video. Very informative. I too love the automatic turn tables. Thank you.
Thanks for sharing,,👍
Vintage turntables rule,, the music always sounds better whilst admiring a vintage turntable.
😁
I love love my Technics 1600MK2 it’s fully automatic and allows me the pleasure to repeat playback. Nothing sucks more than to having to restart an album once it’s done playing
Nice vid, I always liked the way the Japanese engineered their products back in the 80`s
I watched your review and I really enjoyed it.
Very nice video! Had trouble trying to find the particular Headshell for the cartridge, could you confirm what model the headshell is? Thank you!
a beauty for sure
Very informative video, great turntable! I have same model at home😊
Note:
It is better to remove the dust cover completely during operation, because it affects the scanning process negatively like a bell. Professional devices are never operated with a dust cover neither open nor closed, because it is only a dust protection when the device is at rest. Trust me.
(,':--))
Professionals never have to mop up the dust, they have people for it. ;-)
I always remove the dust cover on my DP 52 f
I have a Japanese home market Denon DP2500 recapped and refurbished by Capt Mark
Very nice table you have.
Such a nice turntable ! Theirs one on ebay for 600.00US but all stock , but when Denon came out with the 47/49 their very very good !
If they make one like this today, they have to sell it for $3k minimum, used price of this table is already exceeded or higher than original price, inflation aside. Well refurbished models with new chassis go for $1500 to $2500 from Germany.
@@Tharbamar your exactly right i was going to say the same atleast 3-4k built like stock, Then you add the modification like you did dang i would love to have that turntable ! Its a true Gem i remb pics in Crutchfield magazine of this turntable !! Its a keeper for sure i bet it sounds fantastic !
I had four tables, Technics SL-QL15, Denon DP-47F, Marantz TT-15 and TEAC TN-300, I like the DP-47F most for my music listening, I gave QL-15 to a friend and sold TT-15.
@@Tharbamar The german DP-47Fs for that kind of money are heavily modified, not sure it's a fair comparison with stock. I bought mine for 250€ from Ebay germany.
Where did you get the extra gold headshell? I have been looking for years for an extra PCL-40 headshell (or clone) for my DP-47F. I have ordered two headshells online which are supposed to be PCL-40 clones and what I got was clones of the PCL-30 which is shorter than the PCL-40 and will not accept my large cartridges.
Did you ever consider adding some weight to your lighter headshell/cartridge so that your cartridges all weigh the same so you don't need to adjust the counterweight?
Like you I do love my DP-47F, of my three turntables it gets the most use because it just works and is so easy to use.
I'm sure replacing the tone arm cables would be a big improvement. Something I am not so sure I would have the skill to do.
I just recently got a new Ortofon Blue cart and am very pleased. Seems to be real synergy between the DP-47F and the Ortofon.
What protractor do you use for alignment if you don't mind my asking? I bought one several years ago from a place in Ukraine seems to be spot on.
Thank you for doing this. I have always admired this table but wasn’t sure about reliability. I see why you like this table so much. I missed out on one by a day. I own a VPI Classic and it can be a bear to set up with that unipivot arm, which is good but azimuth can be tricky sometimes. VPI set up tools gets you close, but to get even more accurate takes time. I love the table, but like I said it can be a challenge, but the thing I like a lot about the VPI Classic is that you can remove the arm and VPI has a solid upgrade path. Is there a piece that comes with the Denon like the Technics that you slide the head shell into to make sure the azimuth and alignment is proper. You summed it up nicely by saying I could buy more but why?
This table makes everything easier for me, thanks
Thank you so much for posting this video! May I please ask you what powered speakers you recommend to use with the iFi Zen phono?
It will be depending on the price, KEF LS50 Wireless is very good around $2K, JBL 308 MK2 is great buy if your listening position is within 10ft which is very good price to sound quality, Thanks
@@Tharbamar Thank you so much! I appreciate the response.
This was very helpful to me and motivated me to set mine up again. Thank you. Can you let me know what spikes you got to replace the feet?
Please see this video for updates, thanks
Comparing Isolation Products and Pure Silver RCA Cable Experience
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Tharbamar that was real cool. Which modern Denon is exactly like this?
jusjash dp300 and dp200, however they are no where near these vintaged ones in quality.
I just bought a Denon DP-37F and love it! I’m thinking about upgrading to a Nagaoka MP-150, I wonder how it compares to your cartridge? What do you recommend? Thanks
I can’t give you right advice because I only listen to MC cartridges, thanks
Ok, thanks for the reply.
Which MC cartridges do you recommend. The DL-301MK2 is more than I care to spend right now. Thanks
I’ve been watching for a while now and have picked up some equipment from your reviews. My wife is amazed how good all of our favorite music sounds. Now that we have a more trained ear, she wants a better system in her vehicle! Thanks for all the great vids we really enjoy them!
@@billybullfrog I would stay with MM If I were you because many MC Carts are low outputs and you will need step up transformer to sound their best, there are reasonably priced good sounding MM cartridges like Shure M97Xe or Nagaoka MP series like you had mention above and Audio-Technica VM series etc, thanks
Hi, what headshell are you using and does it allow recommended 4 bolts to be used with 301 mk2 ? Tks ! Richard
Thats a very nice table ! I saw them back in the day in my holy grail magazine Crutchfield! That was my internet from 89-99 until i got my license and drove to dealer shops ! That was exspensive table ! Wasn't their a DP-49F also but yeah in 1996 money compares to todays money it would be close to 2k without modifications thanks for the overview !
Thank You Tee-Jay! It will be pretty expensive if they make this kind of table today.
@@Tharbamar Not counting the mods yes it would still be up there ! They were like 700.ishUS back then I bought the new Techniques SA-TA50 back them it was about the same price
I loved that 6ch amp it was Pure Analog had to by matching 6ch player
Hey mate beautiful tt..I just bought one
Can you please let us know exactly how you braced the tt ? Pics if possible 🙏
Hello dude, do you know the measurement size of the screws used for the feet or for the Martin Logan alternatives you use, trying to deterring how many millimetres they are, thanks.
Also, where did you get that beautiful gold headshell?
It’s from Denon Golden Anniversary Special Edition.
Can you please tell me what diffuser is this behind the table?
Thanks friend!
He is so beautiful!!! I bought 3 😎
Really enjoyed that review is their a modern equivalent? Thanks.
Hi Tharbamar, do you modify these 47F yourself? If so, can I send you mine for this modification? 😄
I do it all by myself but I do not work on the others, thanks
Good looking turntable also
I am so sick of the non automatic Turntables for the high end that dominate the market . Why don't high end manufacturers create more automatic Options? I would be willing to bet that there are many many people who would purchase these and they are losing out on a big segment.
Well, now the prices on eBay will go up! 😂
At Ebay Germany you can buy the DP-47F for 600€ and up right now. It's crazy. Techmoans video is the reason i think.
@@citronski I'm dreading the day Techmoan admits that CD is the superior format... Then the price of used CD's will go through the roof. I've been enjoying collecting my favourite music on CD, free from surface noise and wow and flutter and inner groove distortion.
@@revokdaryl1 Luckily i got a DP-47F for 250€ locally, so i have mine.
I think CDs will never rise in price, eventually most CD-Players will be broken and can't be reapired, laser diodes have a natural decay, even if unused. Record players will be able to be repaired for a long time in contrast.
I have bought entire collections in the last years for less than 200€ at times, picked the cherries, ripped and sold the rest on.
@@citronski I understand the love affair with vinyl very well, believe me. The last cartridge I bought was a low output dual moving coil Audio Technica OC9 III. That cartridge was ridiculously good sounding, even with my lowly Pro Ject Phono Box S. It would have sounded much better with a better phono stage for sure. What ruined vinyl for me was tinkering with the VTA and antiskate. I got so caught up with fine tuning adjustments that it ruined the experience for me. That and I was suddenly experiencing speed issues with my turntable. I eventually gave up on vinyl because of this and went back to CD and FLAC/WAV. And dipped my toes into Super Audio CD territory, which has been very rewarding. DSD is superior to PCM. I do plan on getting a proper analog reel to reel deck at some point.
@@citronski
This table worth 1000 euro min..,
Can you say what type of headshell the gold headshell is and where to buy it? I have this same tt and want a second headshell. Thank you for the good video.
It’s Denon XC-245 Gold Plated Headshell, Thanks
I also had a same turntable. I saw you use a very nice headshell. May I ask what model of headshell? thanks
If I remember it correctly, gold color head shell is from 75th anniversary models. Thanks
Tharbamar, what headshell is the gold one?
Nevermind, found your answer.
HI there!! I have this turntable - it was handed down to me from a family member- but I have no idea how to set it up with speakers. Any advice much appreciated!
Hi, you need a amplifier with phono stage to connect your turntable, which is varied in price.
If you have powered speakers you just need to buy a phono stage to connect them, for that iFi Zen phone is very good, thanks
Very nice turntable,can you link the headshell also thanks.
Not that exact headshell, but google for "Thakker headshell DP-47F", it's just black, but acustically the same.
Price??
Sir I have almost the same turn table by Denon.. recently when I turn it on and push the start button nothing happens.. any idea what could be wrong?
Could be the power supply or power switch.Thanks
Nice review! I have this turntable and need to replace the stylus. I currently have a Shure VST III cartridge and wonder if you can help me find a replacement stylus and/or cartridge. Thanks.
Oi, mate. I have the DP-47F as well and replaced my worn Denon DL-160 with the AT VM95ML, around 150€ here and totally worth it.
Could you show us how you set a cartridge with a protractor?
I will do next time, thanks
@@Tharbamar With all due respect to you, the reason I asked is because from the look of the cartridge set screws, they are way to far forward.
LOL it's NOT necesary to lift the tonearm before hitting "locate" button.....
Tharbamar, Could you tell us what diffuser. Your using above the turntable. Thanks brother.
I’m using custom designed diffusers. Base on pre made panels.
Where you buy gold shell from Denon DL-301 MK II MC Cart???
That’s from one of their special limited edition run.
Hi ! is it compatible with MM cartrigdes ????
👏👏👏👏
hi their,can you link the headshell also thanks
What speakers are compatible with this?
Is it possible to set VTA/SRA
How do you get your clear vinyl to play?
It plays just fine for color discs but I don’t own clear disc in my collection.
You can either manually select size with the buttons or change the mat so that the automatic light is defeated.
As beautiful as all these devices are, and whatever good job they did back then, their time is over. There is no reasonable reason to invest in this old technique other than nostalgia.
(',:--/)
I like how you state your opinions as if they were facts. Very amusing.
Pssh
I'm shocked! Shocked and appalled! How could you say something so hurtful, yet so devastating?