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@@LeifTriumph He's not. The top 2 lap times in moto 1 were Jett and Deegan. Deegan's best lap was faster than the whole 450 field aside from Jett. Moto 2, the 450 podium guys had faster laps than Deegan, but that's it. If you don't think Deegan is going to be a major title threat on the 450, you're not paying any attention.
If the telecast were so lame we would have seen Deegan doubling into the sand on several laps as well. But for some reason the producers like to cut to guy racing for 9th place.
This was such a good race to watch live, we were cou ting seconds in sections. Tomac was actually faster in all the turns and straights, but Jett could link together and carry momentum through the jumps and features. It's amazing seeing their styles and approaches to the same track first hand.
How was he more effective when they both won but Deegan went 1&1 when Jett didnt? I bet Jett is worried and hopes Deegan doesn't win supercross because he will move up for motocross to the 450s if he does in 2025.
@@DirtJockeysdude the 25p class is full of fucking no bodies who will likely never be good enough to get a 450 rider, even thinking that a 1 1 in 250 vs a 1 1 in 450 has any sort of comparison is fucking moronic.
Jetts not that far behind, the whip Deegan's doing in the video was at the end of the race and more for show than go. Maybe Jett will get better as he gets used to racing more.
@@Proton-m4y that’s mind control. lol the “ I trained with kitchen I know he fades” comment had to have Levi so tight. They used to try and blame any fall on Vialle applying pressure to him but was 4 seconds back. Haiden passed Hampshire in the Rythm section, where he ate shit. Then Deegs passed kitchen because he slipped up and couldn’t hit the double. They never mentioned them messing up because that Star Yamaha was screaming in their back pocket. 🤣🤣
@@DuddyToh3 Yea I was shocked win JS said RJ going down was because of the pressure from Deegan. He's looked for anything all year to root against Deegan and has made excuses for everyone that he wanted to win. He had no choice this race due to the total domination by the # 1
Jett is faster but he looks dorky the way he rides everything is so perfect , Deegan looks like a madman everywhere on the track so aggressive like a young Carmichael.
I noticed the landings as well but I think Jett landed shorter because he scrubbed harder & then was on the gas sooner since he was pushing to get past Tomac. Deegan didn't have to charge the jump at 110% to make a pass so he hit it a bit more relaxed.
Hey now 😳....I'm watching this while stopped for coffee out on my supermoto. At 48 this October, I think you should slow up on the AARP talk....🥺 my existence hangs on a state of denial that is already getting a little fragile watching guys like Deegan, the Lawrence bros, Tomac, Roczen, and all those other talented athletes run WFO....we're all getting older....just try not to dwell on it 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Great show sir! 👍 always a good time.
Deegs is a talent but he isnt a once in a generation rider like jet is and will continue to be. He finesses the bike around the track with ease. He has more speed in him. You watch deegs and his on the limiter
Tomac is just a few races back after very few races since 2022 and he's already this fast. Can't wait to see what he looks like by this time next year then we will know. Deegan just wants it more then anyone I've seen since Carmichael. I mean he WANTS IT..... Wanting it that bad can be very special. I'm 53 and got to witness all the great years. Lost interest after Villo retired until I found Deegan on a 65 back in 2014. What we are most likely gonna witness over the next 5 to 8 years could be just as special as #2 JM vs #4 RC vs #22 CR vs JS7. Exciting times
I completely agree one rider was using that move for flash the other rider was doing that move to gain a position. But all in all at the end of the day, both of these two riders have great style, but James Stewart was better than any of these guys, so that’s not even a competition there.
Deegan on a 250 set the 2nd fastest lap time of the weekend during the race only second to Jett on a 450 by only a few 1 hundreds of a second out of everyone else including all the 450 riders. 450 HP mattered on the long fast MX sections. I'm starting to believe that this version of Haiden Deegan may have something for Jett. What I did see was Deegan Level up again in his riding. If he rides like this in the future nobody can stop him and the field all know this I'm sure after watching film. As RC would say this will be interesting to see
@defconone681 lots of riders struggle to change to 450 you can't just pin it they wheel spin so jett lugs his alot to get grip. Deegan pins everywhere and it looks insane it won't be as fun to watch him on a 450.
@@sean.d7171 so your telling me it wasn't fun to watch beastmode Et3 all the years he pinned it and came through the pack to win, that's exactly how Deegan will ride the 450 but I think it will be even faster then et3 and I love Tomac, iv seen Deegan on a 450 he's going to surprise everyone!
Good to see you get back to Race Reaction content. You are by far the best analyst on this subject, of dissecting the previous race weekend rider performances, etc. Don't see anyone else go into your level of detail other than js7's rehash. Enjoy your reaction moreso than his. Hope you stay away from this $$ controversy because both sides will most likely eventually crashing burning. And no one will ever deal with them again after it over with. 31 races pre season is stupid we all know it's blatant $$ profiteering off the riders. Riders have to showup at playoffs to make any money. What the producers pay these riders is nothing short of outright Denigration... riders need to make the 100/50/25 podium for All 31 races...just stay out of it JH !
I’m wondering if some of the people watching this have been racing more than a year. Deegan is an incredible rider but Jett’s scrub was way faster. Keeping your inside foot on the peg when you scrub that hard takes way more control then hanging it off.
Elimhas already Don it all, he ain't risking paralysis to win! But once Deegan enters 450s it over for Jett! And you can all talk ish, but I said it for 3 years and everybody said Danger wasn't gonna dominate the 250s! And had he not been crashed out by others in first 3 rds. Of sx he would won that too!
Deegs, at times, get too much air and losses time if you watch closely. I don't know. Jonny deegs had multiple lines that made him so much faster then all the other riders. Deegs and Jett were running the fastest times out of all riders in both classes. The scoop tire cost Eli the second moto. He couldn't do the rhythm section and keep losing time along with other hard packed parts of the course.
And the camera work sucked. We had Deegs running down Kitchen in the second moto and never got to see it. We got to watch a battle for 8th place. Deegs made up 8 seconds on first, then put 6 seconds into his lead he beat Tom and Kitchen by up to 18 seconds in the first moto. Deegs at the end of each moto after he took his helmet off was not breathing hard or even sweating fitness is key in hot weather. Johnny if cycled 2000 miles in 80 days of straight training this summer and lost 27 lbs since February. Not bad for a 64 year old man..😂
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Deegan is the show PERIOD!!!
Love it man... you nailed it !! Ain't nobody ever like the Deegs baby!!!
@@DanielHorton-q2iDeggan is long way from Jett!
@@LeifTriumph He's not. The top 2 lap times in moto 1 were Jett and Deegan. Deegan's best lap was faster than the whole 450 field aside from Jett. Moto 2, the 450 podium guys had faster laps than Deegan, but that's it. If you don't think Deegan is going to be a major title threat on the 450, you're not paying any attention.
I'd say deegan and Jett and tomac are the show
Yeah buddy that's it!!! All and only all about the Deegs PERIOD!!!!
If the telecast were so lame we would have seen Deegan doubling into the sand on several laps as well. But for some reason the producers like to cut to guy racing for 9th place.
Right.. Deegs did the same exact line multiple times
yea the camera people suck really bad! The pan away right when riders start battling to some guy all by himself in the back.
Good job Johnny keeping it honest... it's all about the Deegs and some are scared to acknowledge that!!!
Deegan looks way better. That stankleg was sick and shows more bike control.
This was such a good race to watch live, we were cou ting seconds in sections. Tomac was actually faster in all the turns and straights, but Jett could link together and carry momentum through the jumps and features. It's amazing seeing their styles and approaches to the same track first hand.
Deegan was more flashy but JL was more effective.
How was he more effective when they both won but Deegan went 1&1 when Jett didnt? I bet Jett is worried and hopes Deegan doesn't win supercross because he will move up for motocross to the 450s if he does in 2025.
@@DirtJockeys Dude, Johnny was asking about the jump technique and NOT about winning the race.
Can’t compare those two scrubs in terms of effectiveness. One was by themselves and one was to actually pass someone.
@@DirtJockeysdude the 25p class is full of fucking no bodies who will likely never be good enough to get a 450 rider, even thinking that a 1 1 in 250 vs a 1 1 in 450 has any sort of comparison is fucking moronic.
@@DirtJockeys Dude Jett just came off an injury. And he is also racing more experiences riders.
Comparing Deegan's style to Jett is like comparing a Ballerina to an Epileptic
Brilliant 😂
Jetts not that far behind, the whip Deegan's doing in the video was at the end of the race and more for show than go. Maybe Jett will get better as he gets used to racing more.
Deegan did the same exact line in the sand rollers as Jett. Jett’s scrub was super sick, but in terms of style and having fun Deegan wins all day
Deegan wins flashiness but jets technique is sublime!
Deegs no question and he also hit that right after blowing by kitchen.
Different scrubs. When he passed Levi, it did a clear look back
@@Proton-m4y that’s mind control. lol the “ I trained with kitchen I know he fades” comment had to have Levi so tight. They used to try and blame any fall on Vialle applying pressure to him but was 4 seconds back. Haiden passed Hampshire in the Rythm section, where he ate shit. Then Deegs passed kitchen because he slipped up and couldn’t hit the double. They never mentioned them messing up because that Star Yamaha was screaming in their back pocket. 🤣🤣
@@DuddyToh3 Yea I was shocked win JS said RJ going down was because of the pressure from Deegan. He's looked for anything all year to root against Deegan and has made excuses for everyone that he wanted to win. He had no choice this race due to the total domination by the # 1
A ton of people left after Deegan finished his second Moto so yes he is the show!
Jett's bike almost seem to gain speed in the air he had so much forward flat lower momentum 😂
Jett is faster but he looks dorky the way he rides everything is so perfect , Deegan looks like a madman everywhere on the track so aggressive like a young Carmichael.
I mean Deegs was flossin. Jet was in the middle of racing. Deegan probably has the most swagger though. His riding looks like so much fun.
Deegan hit the scrub jump harder.... you can easily tell from where he landed compared to Jett's landing spot
I noticed the landings as well but I think Jett landed shorter because he scrubbed harder & then was on the gas sooner since he was pushing to get past Tomac. Deegan didn't have to charge the jump at 110% to make a pass so he hit it a bit more relaxed.
Jett has to pay attention to where Eli's going to be, apples & oranges
Hey now 😳....I'm watching this while stopped for coffee out on my supermoto. At 48 this October, I think you should slow up on the AARP talk....🥺 my existence hangs on a state of denial that is already getting a little fragile watching guys like Deegan, the Lawrence bros, Tomac, Roczen, and all those other talented athletes run WFO....we're all getting older....just try not to dwell on it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great show sir! 👍 always a good time.
Deegs is a talent but he isnt a once in a generation rider like jet is and will continue to be. He finesses the bike around the track with ease. He has more speed in him. You watch deegs and his on the limiter
Deegan, swag for days
Tomac is just a few races back after very few races since 2022 and he's already this fast. Can't wait to see what he looks like by this time next year then we will know. Deegan just wants it more then anyone I've seen since Carmichael. I mean he WANTS IT..... Wanting it that bad can be very special. I'm 53 and got to witness all the great years. Lost interest after Villo retired until I found Deegan on a 65 back in 2014. What we are most likely gonna witness over the next 5 to 8 years could be just as special as #2 JM vs #4 RC vs #22 CR vs JS7. Exciting times
Jetts superpower is looking slower but being faster.
I like that people are comparing Deegan to Jett.
When Jett passed ET3 in the rollers was the best kept the back wheel down and sent it passed et3
That's the Swag leg maa dooood
Awe I like rhat
Jett did this scub better, but usually Haiden has better whips and scrubs.
You are also comparing 250 compared to 450 which you shouldn’t do…. Like how do you compare Jett to haidan when they are riding different cc bikes
This is because the people who compare have never rode both bikes 😂 completely didn’t way to ride a 450
I completely agree one rider was using that move for flash the other rider was doing that move to gain a position. But all in all at the end of the day, both of these two riders have great style, but James Stewart was better than any of these guys, so that’s not even a competition there.
Jett carried so much speed through the jump even with the scrub he OJ'd
Only a matter of time until Deegan is laid out big time... His riding style is soo on edge!
Jett by far scrubbed it harder. His lean angle off the lip was much lower and he carried way more speed over the jump.
Deegan on a 250 set the 2nd fastest lap time of the weekend during the race only second to Jett on a 450 by only a few 1 hundreds of a second out of everyone else including all the 450 riders. 450 HP mattered on the long fast MX sections. I'm starting to believe that this version of Haiden Deegan may have something for Jett. What I did see was Deegan Level up again in his riding. If he rides like this in the future nobody can stop him and the field all know this I'm sure after watching film. As RC would say this will be interesting to see
Jett no doubt, so clean
Dangerboy could obviously win the 450 class on his 250! He's gonna leave Jett behind like a stealth bomber.
100% but a 450cis a whole different animal. I think he should stay in the 250 for another year
Jett will change up a gear and take more risks i bet he wouldn't give it away easy the battles would be insane.
He will be fast asf on a 450 as soon as he's on it!
@defconone681 lots of riders struggle to change to 450 you can't just pin it they wheel spin so jett lugs his alot to get grip. Deegan pins everywhere and it looks insane it won't be as fun to watch him on a 450.
@@sean.d7171 so your telling me it wasn't fun to watch beastmode Et3 all the years he pinned it and came through the pack to win, that's exactly how Deegan will ride the 450 but I think it will be even faster then et3 and I love Tomac, iv seen Deegan on a 450 he's going to surprise everyone!
Deegan for sure!
Are you lot kidding netting jet and has never raced a 450 , wake up
Deegan was laid over more of take off and did it with more style so Deegan all day!
Don't know who did it first but I didn't see Jett doing that sand double line till after he picked it up from Tomac...🤔
Jett’s going to continue to improve just like Deegs will, it’s gonna be an epic 450 class once Levi and few others move up with deegs and can’t wait
Bad comparison as Jett was on a charge and Deegs was cruising. When Deegs charges it reminds me of JimmyBean7! aka JS7
deegs lap times were on par with eli and jett
Sick whip for Hayden. But the master of whips in a race format is none other then the 51 of Justin Barcia 🤙 All Hail the 51 🇺🇲✊
Total style mechanic 👊👊!
Deegan did it better style does count, idk if he was faster but smoother and better looking for real and im a Jett fan
Deegs look way better more relax having fun style and look precise
DZ Deegs!
I'm going with deegs all the way
Did this in every jump a could in 2010…
Deegan is on a 250 and hes comparing sand sections with Jett on a 450 smfh! MO POWA BABY!!!!!
Deegs whip had more flash and style , Jett’s might’ve been quicker , both insane to do in a race at that speed
Good to see you get back to Race Reaction content. You are by far the best analyst on this subject, of dissecting the previous race weekend rider performances, etc. Don't see anyone else go into your level of detail other than js7's rehash. Enjoy your reaction moreso than his. Hope you stay away from this $$ controversy because both sides will most likely eventually crashing burning. And no one will ever deal with them again after it over with. 31 races pre season is stupid we all know it's blatant $$ profiteering off the riders. Riders have to showup at playoffs to make any money. What the producers pay these riders is nothing short of outright Denigration... riders need to make the 100/50/25 podium for All 31 races...just stay out of it JH !
I’m wondering if some of the people watching this have been racing more than a year. Deegan is an incredible rider but Jett’s scrub was way faster. Keeping your inside foot on the peg when you scrub that hard takes way more control then hanging it off.
Elimhas already Don it all, he ain't risking paralysis to win! But once Deegan enters 450s it over for Jett! And you can all talk ish, but I said it for 3 years and everybody said Danger wasn't gonna dominate the 250s! And had he not been crashed out by others in first 3 rds. Of sx he would won that too!
I can see how many people dont realise 450 vs 250 what you can do on the bike 😂
Ain’t
Deegs, at times, get too much air and losses time if you watch closely. I don't know. Jonny deegs had multiple lines that made him so much faster then all the other riders. Deegs and Jett were running the fastest times out of all riders in both classes. The scoop tire cost Eli the second moto. He couldn't do the rhythm section and keep losing time along with other hard packed parts of the course.
Deegan looked faster over the jump not gunna lie
only because its so easy for Jet, that he makes it look easy and slow and like he is barely trying
Line selection with no Wall ride? Aww
Everyone was doing it
50% off people would not be watching if deegan was not riding jetts fast good race graft but deegan got both them and big balls
And the camera work sucked. We had Deegs running down Kitchen in the second moto and never got to see it. We got to watch a battle for 8th place.
Deegs made up 8 seconds on first, then put 6 seconds into his lead he beat Tom and Kitchen by up to 18 seconds in the first moto. Deegs at the end of each moto after he took his helmet off was not breathing hard or even sweating fitness is key in hot weather. Johnny if cycled 2000 miles in 80 days of straight training this summer and lost 27 lbs since February. Not bad for a 64 year old man..😂
So would you say Deegs Hawk tuah on that rut
When they are both on 450's I'll give you a honest opinion
Jett will mop Deegan on the floor
Deegans was better