At the end of episode 2, where Silver had the six would-be Cobra Kai sensei surround Chozen, I was hoping for him to say "All six." before destroying them. Missed opportunity for a KK2 reference.
@@patricklee802 It looked like he handed Daniel money off the stack so I assumed the $1200 but I could be wrong, Either way $1200 or $1800, that is basically 1 or 2 classes and books tops now. Which is absolutely atrocious.
Yeah we all were raised on this. I feel pitty about generation of kids borns after 80-90s. We had a great childhood with VHS and immortal movies like this. Nowadays society is so sick...
1:07 though he failed to break the ice, at least he went on to Top Gun to be Maverick's second wingman, Hans Gruber's computer hacker, and work with Walker, Texas Ranger. RIP Clarence Gilyard
Chozen talks about this scene in Season 5 episode 9 of Cobra Kai while he was drunk and then Daniel reminds him that they do not keep large slabs of ice around lol! Not to mention this song also was used in season 3 during the soccer game fight as well.
I love how subtle and respectful they made this scene knowing the audience is smart enough to understand when they showed Chozen's friend notice Daniel walking into the place, then run off to tell Chozen. They didn't have to zoom in and show us that he saw him, they didn't have to think the audience is not smart. They just did it casually.
iv always loved this scene, especially when the music comes in a drowns out the crowd and the music playing in the background. Im wondering if its representative of Daniels focus deepening before the break. Daniel also doesn't consider for a second how ridiculous he must look he just does the exercise. but when he opens them, there's a savage confidence that wasn't there before. Either way, masterful sequence.
The look on Sato’s face when Daniel was praying says a lot! He was probably thinking like oh sh#%! This dude is about to break this ice and win this money. It was like he knew! 😮
I want to see someone do this for real. Live and in person. Becasue there is no way its realistic with people standing that close. You gotta swing your arm a lot wider and turn your hips a lot more. And OMG thats Trivette!
Chozen's crony alerted Chozen (the latter being in a dojo nearby), Kumiko fetched Miyagi and Yuki since they went shopping in town, and Sato showed up because Chozen told one of the patrons to call him
If all thoae witnesses had seen Chozen welch on a fair bet, not only would there be no more action in the bar, but Sato would be facing major suits from others who probably also lost unfairly.
Fun fact: : the Airman who failed to break the blocks in the beginning would later develop a lot of debt from gambling. To pay off these debts, he would later run with a group of criminals lead by the enigmatic Hans Gruber to rob the vaults of the Nakatomi Plaza.
-“What’s going on in here” -“It’s bad place, you don’t want to go in here” -“Come on, let’s check it out!!” Every fucked up decision I have made over the years
Similar to the way people did not think Bryan Cranston was a good fit for Walter White in Breaking Bad. Yet I could not imagine anyone else playing Walter. Same for Miyagi. Pat IS Miyagi.
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Chozen is established as a cheater who always looked for shortcuts, as well as probably putting all his attention on the brutal aspects, so he most likely didn't even pay attention when Sato tried to teach him the more meditative side. Therefore, he thinks Daniel is too weak to succeed Sato on the other hand gives a subtle look that practically says "Oh, he knows that breathing technique. I'm gonna lose that bet!"
I love how Sato knows that Daniel is gonna break the ice when Daniel is meditating. He realized that moment, Myagi taught Daniel the exact way Sato would. Sato was pissed, but he was also proud.
I like how the look on Sato's face changed when he saw Daniel start the breathing exercise. He knew he might lose the bet. Meanwhile Chosen was clueless the whole time. Sato kept the best karate secrets to himself because he knew Chosen would abuse them, unlike Daniel proved his worthiness to Miyagi.
@dukenukemani07 do u feel daniel was a hypocrite here?he one minute was telling kumiko u gotta be strong in mind,not muscle. But,then tells miyagi guy twice my size only broke 2
@@paulsmith9192 Daniel isn't a hypocrite, he's just plain stupid. If he had listened to Kumiko and not gone into that bar like she warned him, the whole ordeal could've been avoided. Kumiko is a local, so she would know better, but Daniel just charged in like an idiot.
Ironically, by Cobra Kai, Sato had taught EVERYTHING to Chozen. Miyagi was the one who kept the most dangerous arts and techniques from Daniel.. not really because he didn't trust him, but because his karate style had extremely dangerous killing and paralyzing techniques that he didn't want Daniel to know. He wanted him to practice a more peaceful and defensive version of the style. Even without those moves, the style is still very potent and effective. Miyagi's father taught both Miyagi and Sato everything.
@roweman7017 That's right. It seems like Chozen is now the new Mr. Miyagi for Daniel and I hope Chozen is on season 6 and at least moves to California to be closer to Daniel now that his uncle Sato has passed away feeling he doesn't have anything else left for him in Okinawa.
@@orlandobabe If Kumiko moves to the states also, that will be okay where she wouldn't have anything left for her in Okinawa now that her aunt Yukie has passed away especially since Kumiko was Daniel's girlfriend whom he almost proposed to and she almost moved to the states but Daniel said the reason she didn't was because she got offered a job at a dance company in Tokyo which she wanted to accept. Kumiko also never did anything wrong to Daniel for her not to move to the states even though Daniel got surprised at her during season 3 of Cobra Kai when she told him that she called Chozen to meet up with Daniel where Daniel said "why did you call him? Didn't you remember he and I fought to the death?" with Kumiko saying that, that was a long time ago and Chozen changed. So for that, if Chozen and Kumiko move to the states, Daniel could help her get a job at a dance company and Daniel could help Chozen get a job as a karate teacher and with Daniel being the owner of his business, he could give them a car on a discount.
I was in Okinawa in 1976-1977 in the Marines, honest to God, it was the best time of my whole life. Everything about Okinawa was wonderful, just wonderful. Now it’s 2023, ❤ Thank God for memories.
Out of all the puzzling things to lose "honor" for in this movie, not paying up on a losing bet would seem to be the most obvious one. And Chozen tried to weasel out of it. Uncle knows your word is your word, even with a sworn enemy at the time.
I'm an American who's trained with Japanese men so if you would like a quick lesson for context, feel free to read on. Descendants of nobility would often use the word "honor" but what they really meant was "class" as some of their lineages stretched back hundreds of years from ruling classes which could commit terrible injustices. This included a two and a half century period of warrior rule known as the Tokugawa period and in the 20th century Japan fully embraced their own form of Fascism where the Imperial government did way more than just attack Pearl Harbor. They would massacre Chinese civilians, used biological weapons, and even called their own troops "issen goren" meaning "penny postcard", implying a man from a lower class's life was worth about as much as the stamp on his draft notice. When Japan was defeated many of them understood they had allowed their once noble way of life to be corrupted by this kind of thinking so villains like Chozen represent this sort of "Master Race" mentality both in Hollywood productions and in their own works. If there's any further clarification you'd like please let me know and thanks for listening to my little spiel. Best wishes. JT
It is understood by now that Chozen has no idea how honor works. In his mind, honor is like akin to simply not being humiliated. He thinks if he avoids humilation or if he is the one who humiliates, his honor is intact. By being humiliated, he feels his honor is lost. Sato is similar but he has a much better grasp on the concept of Japanese honor, which is why he honored his bet, even with a man he believed stole his honor from him. Both misguided, but Chozen even more so.
@1SmokingLizard It might be Toshio though, but I'm not sure. All I know is that the novel refers to Chozen's henchmen as Taro and Toshio. It also seems like Taro has more superior of Toshio in the novel and it seems like we see the gray outfit guy more than the other thug.
Chozen: "comfy couch, how much?" Mike Barnes: "it's only twelve but what the hell... For you... Two grand!! 😒" Chozen: "I left my money in Okinawa... I can not cover that" Daniel: "you are covered "
Real ones know that the strategy was to pray long enough so that the ice can melt enough to be soft and breakable. This was later admitted in BTS footage and is canon
I think people are missing the point of this scene. Sato placed the bet because he wanted to see if Miyagi had taught Daniel the secret arts. His look of disappointment and anger at the end had little to do with losing $600 which to him is nothing. The only part of losing the money to Miyagi that may have been hurtful to Sato was him having to humble himself to Miyagi and pay up. But Sato was was upset that Daniel broke the ice primarily for other reasons.
I think he only took the bet because his nephew made a public scene challenging Daniel to the bet. For honor he had no choice but to accept the bet even knowing he could loose, when he noticed Daniel focusing, he knew he had lost. When soto's nephew covered the money, Sato told him to never embarrass his uncle again. He was referring to the entire situation. The anger was from dishonering his uncle. The dishonor stemming from Mr Miyagi just made it all the worse.
In Cobra Kai season 5 I wanted so bad to hear Chozen tell Silver, “We do not honor bet with coward.”
wouldve been perfect poetry
At the end of episode 2, where Silver had the six would-be Cobra Kai sensei surround Chozen, I was hoping for him to say "All six." before destroying them. Missed opportunity for a KK2 reference.
@@TotsNaterBRO that would’ve been insane. Someone get this man a Time Machine so he can make this happen for real for real
@@TotsNater Agreed. The fight itself though was a KK2 reference.
Vuoi troppo fratello
The most amazing part of this scene is that college tuition could be paid with what 1200 bucks. Absolutely amazing.
wouldnt pay for the books these days lol
Lol.....truth
Was it $1200? It should’ve been $1800 right? They said the odds were 3 to 1 and he bet $600. Mr. Miyagi the ultimate hustler.
@@patricklee802 It looked like he handed Daniel money off the stack so I assumed the $1200 but I could be wrong, Either way $1200 or $1800, that is basically 1 or 2 classes and books tops now. Which is absolutely atrocious.
@@patricklee802its 1200
"What do you expect me to do?
Focus
Fine. What are you going to do?
Pray?"
Miyagi was a hidden stand up comedian 😂
Well Pat Morita WAS a comedian so that makes sense really. in 2005 the world lost a great man indeed.
Pretty famous stand up comedian in his time. The Hip Nip they called him. Should tell you how old school he was haha.
@@Evil-Shizen Can't believe it's been almost 20 years. Crazy. RIP.
@@Evil-Shizen Yes he is a great man but can i tell you he is Arnold in comedy tv show Happy Days with Ron Howard.
Lmao no he was a hidden boxer/criminal
This is my favorite scene in the entire Karate Kid franchise. As a kid I thought this was so cool.
Now people talk like a friggin fairy land kingdom... bring on back the cooler harsher 80's!😤✊
I see what you did there! 😎 🧊
Cool as ice
Same bro!
Yeah we all were raised on this. I feel pitty about generation of kids borns after 80-90s. We had a great childhood with VHS and immortal movies like this. Nowadays society is so sick...
Soto recognized that Myiagi was teaching Daniel properly and with respect.
Great to see Sato and his dimwitted offspring have to eat crap......looks good on both of them !!!!
@@robertcook9446 do you want a boyfriend
@@robettgriffin1904 I do 😏
Mr Miyagi & Mr Sato now becoming Daniel’s inspiration.
Juan Soto with the Yankees
Sato. Can't help but see the respect he has for that art when Daniel is ramping up. Kinda like "yea, he's gonna do it, but respect..."
Best scene in the movie, also a great way for the writers to cover the bases regarding Daniel's financial situation.
😂
Even though he lost the bet, sato showing up and saying “you are covered” is still badass.
1:07 though he failed to break the ice, at least he went on to Top Gun to be Maverick's second wingman, Hans Gruber's computer hacker, and work with Walker, Texas Ranger. RIP Clarence Gilyard
Why? You think you could do better big mouth, huh? You think you could do better? 😂😂😂
I love the subtle touch when Sato appears and the music ramps up just a bit more
Daniel: what do you expect me to do?!
Miyagi: focus ☺️
Daniel: and what are you gonna do??
Miyagi: pray 🙏🏻 😊
Rip ❤️❤️❤️
Chozen talks about this scene in Season 5 episode 9 of Cobra Kai while he was drunk and then Daniel reminds him that they do not keep large slabs of ice around lol! Not to mention this song also was used in season 3 during the soccer game fight as well.
What is the name of the song? I need to find it.
I love how subtle and respectful they made this scene knowing the audience is smart enough to understand when they showed Chozen's friend notice Daniel walking into the place, then run off to tell Chozen. They didn't have to zoom in and show us that he saw him, they didn't have to think the audience is not smart. They just did it casually.
It’s the * you are covered * that gets me
Goes in and and stands right next to the guy, “LOOK, HE’S STANDING WRONG!”
LOL!
Great SONG in the background :-) Love the Part 2 - I absolutely loved the love story and I stil do.
Miyagi says don’t worry I fix everything. Never bet against someone that says I fix
The bet was made just before Miyagi entered. Chozen would’ve looked like the bigger coward had he bailed upon Miyagi saying “I fix everything”
Ah then we're the days when a handful of bills could cover college tuition. Lol
@derpydog837 I ain't ya son guy. And even so a hand full of Benjamin's now days won't even muss the hair gell of a college admissions admin.
"You get college tuition. We get Chinese food." Awesome on both accounts, lol!
iv always loved this scene, especially when the music comes in a drowns out the crowd and the music playing in the background. Im wondering if its representative of Daniels focus deepening before the break.
Daniel also doesn't consider for a second how ridiculous he must look he just does the exercise. but when he opens them, there's a savage confidence that wasn't there before.
Either way, masterful sequence.
Pat Morita was fun to watch. May he rest in peace.
I am your biggest fan, Lorusso
I love these movies so much 💖.. It's funny in this scene how Miyagi and Sato seem to be nextdoor 😂🤘
The song was also used in cobra kai season 3 during the soccer game
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@@robettgriffin1904 lol I knew that I couldn't be the only one that knew that
Anyone know the name of this song?
@@WGM190065 no sorry I just noticed the Easter eggs from both the show and movies
2:24 you can hear the guy say 600 bucks fuck me
Jesus this is PG
Oh shit 😂😅😂😅
Thousands of years later and still the same . love it! Thank you God for making it so simple yet so hard
Japan big place, many people. Miagi always conveniently nearby! And bad kid! And his Uncle!
Daniel is with a cute Japanese girl and all he can talk about is if he’s going to run into Mr. Miyagi in town 😂
After three movies Daniel is still helpless without Mr Miyagi. His ending victories were good luck.
Between Sato and Mr. Miyagi.... one thing comes to mind: "Old Guys Rule'
Kumico is so beautiful.
The look on Sato’s face when Daniel was praying says a lot! He was probably thinking like oh sh#%! This dude is about to break this ice and win this money. It was like he knew! 😮
"WRONG! All six"
It's good thing daniel did not hit the women on his side upon breaking the ice haha
When I was a kid this movie made me want to live in Japan. Now I live in Japan : )
0:33 that guy with the hat was looking at Daniel
Yeah and then he went to get chozen
Ralph maccio was 25 in here Danm he was so youthful in all of the karate kid movies
Chosen lost. Why is he angry? He really embarrassed Sato like this.
This scene got me so hyped. Absolute classic.
I wish I had a Mr. Miyagi in my life
I want to see someone do this for real. Live and in person. Becasue there is no way its realistic with people standing that close. You gotta swing your arm a lot wider and turn your hips a lot more. And OMG thats Trivette!
Ranger Trivette couldn't break all the ice :(
I still do this before every fight....I get beat up alot. Lmao
Everybody walked into the same place at the same time
Originally the only other person was Chozen's crony.
Chozen's crony alerted Chozen (the latter being in a dojo nearby), Kumiko fetched Miyagi and Yuki since they went shopping in town, and Sato showed up because Chozen told one of the patrons to call him
Background music sounds like one of the old Street Fighter games 😝
KK 2 was the best. RIP Clarence Gilyard
It's crazy how much Chozen has changed on Cobra Kai
Denial only one punch 👊 🔥🔥🥶
The plan was to pray for so long, that the ice melts in the meantime and breaks easier.
Exactly, Myagi and Danny cheating again. Just like that illegal kick Myagi told Daniel to use on Johnny. Those 2 are scumbags.
@@pladampa Wasn't an illegal kick, and they weren't even praying that long. Sounds like cope.
@@xailth No face contact, 💯 an illegal kick.
@@pladampa He hit him into the chin, not the face. Which is allowed.
@@xailth that's the face
This Is karate kid 2 I am 1000 times see this movie
Yep, talk that shit and laugh. Meanwhile he breaks all that ice.
I wouldn’t go into a bar and talk loud shit about other people not breaking the ice and not expect somebody to get mad
Daniel's mouth keeps writing him a cash he can't cash
I would totally beat Chozen in the fight.
He will use Karate and I would use Chinese Kung Fu, Shotokan Karate and Taekwondo.
the trick was they were waiting for the ice to melt a little so its easier to break. that's why they did that whole focus thing
SATO INSURANCE : “YOU AH CAHVAHD” 1-800-SATO-NOW 2:28 😄🎬
If all thoae witnesses had seen Chozen welch on a fair bet, not only would there be no more action in the bar, but Sato would be facing major suits from others who probably also lost unfairly.
Fun fact: : the Airman who failed to break the blocks in the beginning would later develop a lot of debt from gambling.
To pay off these debts, he would later run with a group of criminals lead by the enigmatic Hans Gruber to rob the vaults of the Nakatomi Plaza.
I get the fact that sato know he going to break the ice when he meditated but I don’t get was when sato said do not embarrasse uncle again
Trivet needed to call Chuck Norris
I'd be focusing and praying a lot longer. That way the ice melts and weakens.
Why is johnny there and why doesn't he know it's Daniel san?
How has chozens laugh and voice not changed.
I’ve watched this scene so many times, still awesome, I just wonder why so many Americans are in Okinawa
American soldiers stationed there.
Should've Kept that mouth shut lol 😂
"We do not honor bet with coward"
yet hell make a vet with coward?
3:45 Chikuso!!!!!!
It was that moment Sato thought Chozen had been a fool and made a embarrassment and loser of himself.
Ninja took an hour to break.
Lol Chosen come a long way
Isn't the guy in the grey tank top from walker texas ranger?
-“What’s going on in here”
-“It’s bad place, you don’t want to go in here”
-“Come on, let’s check it out!!”
Every fucked up decision I have made over the years
I'm asking for your prayers and support. Please send healing vibes my way.
Why what's wrong?
Fool would have broke his hand, lost the bet and disgraced Mr. Miyagi in one move.
Uh Oh, the bad guy
Chosen
Sato knew
was her voice added in post production?
Didn't know they used the US dollar in Japan...
Can you guys believe that they didn't want Pat for this part?😮
Well all they had to go on was his comedic role in Happy Days
Similar to the way people did not think Bryan Cranston was a good fit for Walter White in Breaking Bad. Yet I could not imagine anyone else playing Walter. Same for Miyagi. Pat IS Miyagi.
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Hymn loves me ...clone herself
If they all are Miyagi Do, why did they doubt him breaking the blocks??
Chozen is established as a cheater who always looked for shortcuts, as well as probably putting all his attention on the brutal aspects, so he most likely didn't even pay attention when Sato tried to teach him the more meditative side. Therefore, he thinks Daniel is too weak to succeed
Sato on the other hand gives a subtle look that practically says "Oh, he knows that breathing technique. I'm gonna lose that bet!"
0:08/1:10/1:20/1:23/1:24/1:36/3:41/4:23
The look on Sato’s face before Daniel breaks the ice when he realizes that Myagi has shown Daniel the ancient ways
Yeah, he knew he lost the bet
@@robettgriffin1904 Nah im straight, thanks though. But you should ask DSP, heard he's been looking for one.
His name is SATO not SOTO
@@rogerpoola2630
Who the fuck comes on youtube and asks if someone wants to be their boyfriend ?
That's just a relationship that is destined to fail
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I love how Sato knows that Daniel is gonna break the ice when Daniel is meditating. He realized that moment, Myagi taught Daniel the exact way Sato would. Sato was pissed, but he was also proud.
Sato saw himself in Daniel.
@@jonstefanik9400 then Sato is a dirty old man.
@jonstefanik9400 and that Daniel was doing better than chozen spiritually
@@jonstefanik9400 All you guys pulling those interpretations out fo your asses LOL
@@stephanea5364Ong 😂😭😭
I like how the look on Sato's face changed when he saw Daniel start the breathing exercise. He knew he might lose the bet. Meanwhile Chosen was clueless the whole time. Sato kept the best karate secrets to himself because he knew Chosen would abuse them, unlike Daniel proved his worthiness to Miyagi.
@dukenukemani07 do u feel daniel was a hypocrite here?he one minute was telling kumiko u gotta be strong in mind,not muscle. But,then tells miyagi guy twice my size only broke 2
@@paulsmith9192 Daniel isn't a hypocrite, he's just plain stupid. If he had listened to Kumiko and not gone into that bar like she warned him, the whole ordeal could've been avoided. Kumiko is a local, so she would know better, but Daniel just charged in like an idiot.
@@paulsmith9192not hypocrite but it has to be a limit, he was prepair to break 3 like he saw the other guys trying to do it. But double?? C'mon
@@dukenukemani07Lmao Calm down clown. He was new to the country. It was broad daylight.
Ironically, by Cobra Kai, Sato had taught EVERYTHING to Chozen. Miyagi was the one who kept the most dangerous arts and techniques from Daniel.. not really because he didn't trust him, but because his karate style had extremely dangerous killing and paralyzing techniques that he didn't want Daniel to know. He wanted him to practice a more peaceful and defensive version of the style. Even without those moves, the style is still very potent and effective. Miyagi's father taught both Miyagi and Sato everything.
they nailed Sato perfectly, he says more with his expressions than he does with words.
Looking back, I wish they did more with Miyagi and Sato. Like some flashbacks to when they were young are gave them more interactions on screen.
@@solblackguyWe need a Miyagi prequel
@@marselo4852love to see it after Cobra Kai final season..a series on him and Satos friendship and how it turned bad over a woman.l
Now he and Chozen are the best friends
@@hectorlopez1069 do you want a boyfriend
Along with Johnny and Mike
@roweman7017 That's right. It seems like Chozen is now the new Mr. Miyagi for Daniel and I hope Chozen is on season 6 and at least moves to California to be closer to Daniel now that his uncle Sato has passed away feeling he doesn't have anything else left for him in Okinawa.
@@afriendofbean except Kumiko
@@orlandobabe If Kumiko moves to the states also, that will be okay where she wouldn't have anything left for her in Okinawa now that her aunt Yukie has passed away especially since Kumiko was Daniel's girlfriend whom he almost proposed to and she almost moved to the states but Daniel said the reason she didn't was because she got offered a job at a dance company in Tokyo which she wanted to accept. Kumiko also never did anything wrong to Daniel for her not to move to the states even though Daniel got surprised at her during season 3 of Cobra Kai when she told him that she called Chozen to meet up with Daniel where Daniel said "why did you call him? Didn't you remember he and I fought to the death?" with Kumiko saying that, that was a long time ago and Chozen changed. So for that, if Chozen and Kumiko move to the states, Daniel could help her get a job at a dance company and Daniel could help Chozen get a job as a karate teacher and with Daniel being the owner of his business, he could give them a car on a discount.
I was in Okinawa in 1976-1977 in the Marines, honest to God, it was the best time of my whole life. Everything about Okinawa was wonderful, just wonderful. Now it’s 2023, ❤ Thank God for memories.
Fenril, did you learn any Karate when you were there?? 🙂
@@armandodeluna3734cringe
Being in the army, you didn’t frequent the local brothels, did ya?
Dad was a Marine there too in the early 70s, 1970 -late 1972 I think. Did you ever see a bar like this?
banana lady?
3:17 Sato: Shit, there goes my money.
Sato: He has been training the boy for a while. He ain’t much of a pushover as much as I thought
yep. sato KNEW what time it was.....
Money wasn't the issue. Pride and social standing was.
The money was pocket change to Sato. It was about honour and respect.
This is hands down one of the best scenes in the entire trilogy.
Miyagi would have never allowed Daniel to go for it if he didn’t know for a fact he could break it. Great scene
Out of all the puzzling things to lose "honor" for in this movie, not paying up on a losing bet would seem to be the most obvious one. And Chozen tried to weasel out of it. Uncle knows your word is your word, even with a sworn enemy at the time.
I'm an American who's trained with Japanese men so if you would like a quick lesson for
context, feel free to read on.
Descendants of nobility would often use the word "honor" but what they really meant was
"class" as some of their lineages stretched back hundreds of years from ruling classes which
could commit terrible injustices. This included a two and a half century period of warrior rule
known as the Tokugawa period and in the 20th century Japan fully embraced their own form
of Fascism where the Imperial government did way more than just attack Pearl Harbor. They
would massacre Chinese civilians, used biological weapons, and even called their own troops
"issen goren" meaning "penny postcard", implying a man from a lower class's life was worth
about as much as the stamp on his draft notice.
When Japan was defeated many of them understood they had allowed their once noble
way of life to be corrupted by this kind of thinking so villains like Chozen represent this
sort of "Master Race" mentality both in Hollywood productions and in their own works.
If there's any further clarification you'd like please let me know and thanks for listening to
my little spiel. Best wishes. JT
@@jthughes9820 I appreciate you sharing.
It is understood by now that Chozen has no idea how honor works. In his mind, honor is like akin to simply not being humiliated. He thinks if he avoids humilation or if he is the one who humiliates, his honor is intact. By being humiliated, he feels his honor is lost. Sato is similar but he has a much better grasp on the concept of Japanese honor, which is why he honored his bet, even with a man he believed stole his honor from him. Both misguided, but Chozen even more so.
Love how Taro instantly recognizes Daniel-San and runs to go get Chozen at 0:32
I'm glad he had a character name (Taro). I always thought he would have been credited as Okinawa Thug #1.
@1SmokingLizard
It might be Toshio though, but I'm not sure.
All I know is that the novel refers to Chozen's henchmen as Taro and Toshio.
It also seems like Taro has more superior of Toshio in the novel and it seems like we see the gray outfit guy more than the other thug.
Actually that’s Toshio, Taro is the other guy
Damn! Cool blink and you'll miss moment.
he knew the back of his head like the back of his hand lol
I love how Sato just walks in and says “You are covered”
Chozen: "comfy couch, how much?"
Mike Barnes: "it's only twelve but what the hell... For you... Two grand!! 😒"
Chozen: "I left my money in Okinawa... I can not cover that"
Daniel: "you are covered "
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Real ones know that the strategy was to pray long enough so that the ice can melt enough to be soft and breakable. This was later admitted in BTS footage and is canon
Pleasure do business with you 😂 Miyagi always know how to troll the villains 😅
Wasn’t the trick here the more he meditated the ice would melt a little for him to break the ice
kumiko was so cute back then :D
Agreed, absolutely. Ugh when will we meet such nice ladies bro. 😅
Kumiko was cute back then but now she is beautiful
@@shinmegamanzx she was always beautiful
I think people are missing the point of this scene. Sato placed the bet because he wanted to see if Miyagi had taught Daniel the secret arts. His look of disappointment and anger at the end had little to do with losing $600 which to him is nothing. The only part of losing the money to Miyagi that may have been hurtful to Sato was him having to humble himself to Miyagi and pay up. But Sato was was upset that Daniel broke the ice primarily for other reasons.
Technically he lost $1800. It was 3-1 odds.
I think he only took the bet because his nephew made a public scene challenging Daniel to the bet. For honor he had no choice but to accept the bet even knowing he could loose, when he noticed Daniel focusing, he knew he had lost. When soto's nephew covered the money, Sato told him to never embarrass his uncle again. He was referring to the entire situation. The anger was from dishonering his uncle. The dishonor stemming from Mr Miyagi just made it all the worse.
I don’t think Sato was upset at all.