Wacom Flex Arm Review
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One of the downsides of the Cintiq Pro 24 and 32 is they don't come with any kind of stand. Wacom has now released a new flex arm to go along with their current Ergo stand. How does it work? stay tuned and find out.
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i read the first part of the title as "weird flex" and i thought "okay"
Weird flex but okay
You know Brad is a cool tech reviewer when I even watch his review of a display arm for a device I do not own...
Martin S. Stoller 😂 Same but made me Sub!!! He’s great 👍
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Bought the wacom flex arm after watching dozens of videos and reading reviews. It is REALLY good! The flex is unnoticeable even when its fully erect and stretched. The amount of freedom it gives is lovely. To all those that say that tiny screws are made of soft metal and are easily harmed. They are not load-bearing, so you only need to tighten them very slightly. Just enough to not let the part that its supposed to hold to come out of the socket. Its built like a tank. Love it.
you know a youtuber is good when you watch a review for an accessory for a tablet that you dont own or plan on owning and still love the video
Can't believe they're charging three times the price of the standard ergotron!
I have the exact same setup, and agree that it's hard to push down, though I suppose this is a good point. One thing I've accidentally done is put so much force on the Cintiq that the side bezel would pop down, and would need to snap it back into place. The wobble isn't too bad honestly, and I only notice it when zig zagging horizontally on the screen rapidly. One thing is for sure, it helps the neck and back with this thing, and of course, really frees up space on my desk especially since I like using the keyboard as my shortcut device.
In other news, there's either some dead pixels or dust in a small part of my screen, and some bad backlight bleed on the left. The thing is only 2 months old and looks like I'll need to send it in for warranty repair.... AND I have to pay shipping. Pretty shoddy Wacom... really.
Why did you not call your montage of installing the mounting arm a “mount”age? I Shake my head at you, sir!
Weird flex, but okay.
No
@@smallpablo9204 Fair enough.
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DAMNIT YOU BEAT ME TO IT
Dang it 3 hours too late
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I came back to this video after weighing the options out there and then clicked your affiliate link to purchase. lol it's least I could do. Thanks for your videos.
For $400 that thing should be rock solid.
the Ergotron HX costs less than that and holds displays up to 40lbs.
This guys is so informative and funny! The REM songing the middle was hilarious.
Your channel is very underrated
Will it cost me an arm and a leg? 🤪
It is a Wacom... What do you expect
felixader Thanks for the laugh. 🤣 Yes, my first graphics tablet was a Wacom, so I know.
No itll cost you everything
I thought some air-tool sounds during the assembly would have added to the excitement and drama, sort of NASCAR like... Great video Brad.
I been rocking my custom made steel vesa adapter for longer than year and recently dig a hole on the desk for the grommet solution and honestly... it now feels perfect, extending over the desk like the ergo stand would.
Sounds nice! I just got the 24” pro. I have a gas arm that has max load of 9kg. So it will work. Do you have the dimensions for the custom VESA adapter?
Great video, let me get this right though.... you pay a ton of money for the Cintiq and Wacom doesn't even have the courtesy to include a decent stand or a vesa mount? Even a cheap Huion includes both. Pay more get less must be Wacom's slogan these days.
Looking at the price, I'll have to shockingly note that the arm is more expensive than my Huion GT-191 was when on sale. The vesa mount and a alternative arm are definitely a lot less then buying that arm. For around $100 you get great arms.
Benjamin A Smells like maybe they’re taking a lead from Apple 🧐
@@stellaq3306 seems like it
Well, Wacom costs so much because of the quality trade off of the screen, pen, and drivers. Overall, Wacom makes better tablets, so they can get away with shittier stands.
You could say that Wacom is giving you less even though you pay more, but you’re not paying for the stand, you’re really paying for the tablet. So in reality, they made the flex arm to combat that problem.
Plus do you know how unconventional having a built in stand on a tablet that size would be? I have a 16” tablet and I already feel like I’m sacrificing a third of my desk space.
I don’t think Wacom is giving you more for less, I just think that you’re looking at the wrong parts of the price. They probably kept the item cheaper because of the stand. You’re paying for a lament screen, quality matte glass, an amazing pen, seamless drivers, and so that Wacom can turn a profit.
to be fair I bought a huoin kamvas and it died in less than a month, so now im getting a cintiq
As someone who did actually buy one of those Huion Cintiq knockoffs, the quality difference alone is INSANE. Wacom is expensive for a reason. No amount of setup or tweaking got that shitty bootleg to work half as good as even my cheap Intous medium. If you're buying an expensive piece of equipment, and the Huion is still hundreds of dollars, it's a huge mistake to buy something that doesn't do it's intended job well. Like honestly, if Wacom could figure out their shitty fucking driver issues, I'd have no complaints, it's not like you're buying them yearly or anything. My Intous medium is many, many years old and still works like a charm. (After.. dealing with the driver issues)
I'm using my Huion GT-220 V2 (8192) with an cheap InVision VESA arm which I modified to be able to lay the display close to flat on the desk, and it works perfectly. This is about ten times more expensive.
Wacom is like the Leica of Tablet makers; it doesn't matter good their competitors get; there is always BS placebo cop-outs these 'reviewers' will use to say Wacom/Leica is better.
To keep the sunk cost Wacom/Leica fanboys from sperging out at them.
I found an alternative solution to a solid stand for the Pro 24. I purchased the Wacom Vesa Adapter and their newly released Cintiq 22 (Vesa standard 100mm) stand which is a larger version of the Cintiq 16 stand. It works great and is very solid. I am sure Wacom does not approve but I have to say VS the Ergo stand or the Flex stand for $148 I no longer need books. You can purchase both on the Wacom page.
That’s a great idea!. How does it hold ? I mean u find it comfortable to draw on and it can withstand the weight and pressure when u draw on? I’m in the same book club situation and my back said please do something lol
really happy you mentioned you were making the family xmas card before you dropped that alone bit at 1:52. Would of made me sad for you, friend. Thanks for the review. Trying to decide over this or the Ergotron one, I want flexibility and stability. Will pay for whichever is best. Happy new year.
Ordering mine today! Thank you for the thorough review.
And it's on sale if purchased from the Wacom website...50% off with the purchase of a new Cintiq 24 Pro! :D
1:35 man I felt that 😂
Awesome review, don't mind about the window. I didn't know this was an option....love it, thanks!
4th option : Invest in a Surface studio
There are a lot of other caveats to that.
3:38 Ahhh THE QUESTION PARROT!!! lol such enthusiasm
been using the amazon $100 arm. It's been working great, I have no idea why i never used an arm type of stand before.
Does it wiggle a lot? Does it have difficulty holding up the Cintiq if you put it horizontal at the highest position as a monitor? I'm wondering if it would do the job optimally.
@@Psil0 It does wiggle a bit, I have the recent 24 pro. I was actually worried at first, but I'm still pretty happy with it 2 months later. It does need to be tightened quite a bit, but it does support it enough to draw while I'm standing up
Thanks for the review. Helpful as always. I think I'm going to have to give up the desk space and the extra money to eliminate the wiggle.
The flex arm is great. It's very flexible for position and it really doesn't wiggle much providing you have a good solid setup. It works best on a very solid desk and with the clamp very firmly attached. Because it's effectively an 80cm cantilever, ANY movement at the clamp point will be magnified considerably at the monitor end, so it's critical to get this good and solid. When well set up it's close to the solidity of a desk stand (and even those still have some flex)
Yay new vid
I think that the best feature of such mounting arm is to use the Cintiq as a traditional monitor in a traditional angle when not sketching.
I stop watching this channel for just a few months and i come back to see a Santa Brad wtf
Question: Can it lift up enough to be able to stand and work on screen without having your neck bent down? What about a ergotron HX arm? Cheaper no doubt..same tech? Same stability? You can now buy the official wacom vesa mount.
Flex arm? More like FLEX TAPE!
The important part you left out. How did you mount the base to the desk. Did you screw it in or is it clamp mounted?
The montage was pretty cool.
Hey Brad, do you think its just a rebranded ergotron arm? I did a review on just the VESA mount and used it with a standard ergo (not the heavy weight one). The HP and Amazon basics ones were rebranded ergotron arms. So my total cost was under $200. It does have some wiggle but not when I bring it in low. I guess the weight is just better distributed that way. Also looks like it might be the same exact VESA mount which makes sense. Its great because it doesnt flex at all. Nice review man!
Was thinking the same thing - Ergotron for sure!
@@GeoffreyCapes Yeah, from a convenience standpoint, its great to get everything you need plus that looks like a heavier ergotron than the standard one. Its more like a combo package with their VESA mount which turned out to be quite sturdy.
heya, great review. how did u place the Wacom remote with the stand without the remote falling?
Informational AND funny! Thanks!
I'm ...baffled this looks nearly identical to my Amazon basics arm that has basic mounting capability- as in it mounts to a monitor standard. I have my Huion GT191 mounted to it and it's really nice, it's built out of metal like this and the base looks EXACTLY the same making me think it's the same manufacturer. Not helped by all the same positions all being possible with my monitor arm, down to the rotation.
The difference is instead of $380 it's $100. So, that is an absurd price for a monitor arm...as usual with Wacom.
no its not, the amazon basics arm is a rebranded LX this is a rebranded HX, the hx costs about 270, and the vesa mount costs like 70, so you can get it for a bit cheaper but not much.
I’m... very concerned for your EK remote. I felt like it would fall any moment. My heart stopped when you rotated it 90 degrees.
I have a pro24 as well and the remote sticks om magnetically. Not totally fixed, but enough.
Great review, Brad (as always). I bought the Ergo stand a few months ago as I had no idea they were releasing this. It's fine but it takes up the entire desk and when I'm animating etc I like to put it in the upright position so it's more like a normal monitor. When I do that you have to look down at the screen and it isn't great for my posture. Is the Flex Arm better for this?
"Etched glass" is it actually a sheet of glass? Or type of Gorilla glass etc. Thanks!
Hi Brad, Thanks for your review! Evert time eye openers! But I do have a question as I'm about to switch over from a Wacom Intuous 4 to a Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 (I like the big size as I draw from my elbow). I see you don't have a Pro Engine (not necessary for you?)... of course with a pro engine you can sit where ever and then the arm is not necessary. Will the stand hold the pro24 with an Engine ($2499.95... freaking expensive!). As I would like to be more mobile (to travel) do you suggest then the Wacom Studio Pro 16? Please let me know. Regards from the Caribbean. Sander
Hey,person in the future,have people just decided to just skip buying an item half the price for a display tablet and 3d printed this,if so hows the experience?And what other weird addons can know be 3d printed?
Are you using the 32 or 24? This is so tempting but not sure if my desk is strong enough to take the weight of the 32 with this flex arm.
Hey Brad, good video. Quick question about the mount: What's the clearance for the desk clamp when it's wide open? I'm looking at my desk config and I've got a bit of a lip before accessing the solid wood of the desk surface, and I was wondering if I'd have fitment issues before even fixing the clamp to the desk. Thanks.
Would you recommend using the Cintiq as your main display with an arm like that? Would you watch a movie or game on it? I'm considering it as it would save a lot of space on my desk to replace my main monitor and at the same time get a Cintiq.
Can you brace the arm so it wiggles less? I definitely need more desk space, I just don't want the wiggle to be TOO egregious.
I got the ergo arm specifically because I would lose so much desk space if I went with the stand
I ended up getting an Ergotron arm for about 150$ back when the original 32inch Cintiq came out. The mount you get with that fit right on the wacom no problem and the arm was super high quality. Basically this product looks like a proprietary ripoff of that for double the price tbh.
It's a ripoff of the Ergotron HX, not the LX. The HX is also more expensive.
I dont have the wiggle because I really tightened the screws
I have a 16 pro would it work for that? Cuz I need it!
Hello Mr Colbow.
I have a question,
I already have an iPad Pro (2018)
What would be the benefit of having a tablet such as this if I am working on the iPad? 🤔
Could you perhaps make a video on this please?🙏
Thank you 😁 💯
I love your channel so much :D
2:58 hard to push down easy up
3:20 does wiggle a bit
Beware of IKEA desks, the setup is more than 20 kg on a lewer arm. It cracks a hole in your desk.
Drools at 24” Wacom screen drawing tablet....sorry what’s this video about lol looks like an awesome arm. 8/10 because this arm doesn’t defy physics.
Hi Brad, I only just saw this video! Do you think this is compatible with other tablet brands? Or... can you use it with smaller Wacom tablets? Thank you!
Awesome bro🔥🔥
Aw. Brad. I'll come over and help you with stuff. Btw, my grandkids swear you have a gaming channel under the name skunk or spider or something that starts with an S. Is that you or another guy with a handsome voice?
How's this compared to Ergotron arms? Ergotron is quite popular among Cintiq users... and it's definitely not cheap...
I don't have this nor an ergotron arm, but I do have the amazon version with an ergotron extension piece to reach across my desk, it works wonderfully & costs a fraction of the price
Can I mount this to another tablet like the dell canvas 27th? If I get the correct mount?
Wow they really made this mounting points in such a way that you cannot use Ergotron mounts. Unbelievable this thing is even 100 USD more expensive.
What If I have motorized desk - Could I make the lower border of the screen lay on the table while working to mitigate wiggle, and use my desk to adjust height?
I feel like its not thought through with these Cintiqs. If you buy the enormous stand, that is kindoff similar to the old one, it only has like 2 position in which it looks in, which is ridiculious, and it also takes up lot of space (Where to put my fricking keyboard?). And when you get that ergotron-arm, and for example, want do do big strokes on like a 32 inch Cintiq, as you would when doing figure drawing, it will wobble the shit out of your table. So how is it, there is no proper solution to mount this thing? I am thinkig about buying this, but all the ways of using it seem like a compromise and not very much thought out. Any thoughts on this? The only Cintiq I've ever used was a 22HD at work, which has also a weird stand, but at least it is rock solid.
Arg the wiggle. I stick with the ergo stand
How flat are you able to get the monitor to the desk?
Your a legend
great video. Very helpful, of course except for that bright window. Never again! Thanks for the info
Is the wiggle disruptive when drawing or just a minor nuisance?
Hey, I have a question for you...I am a motion graphics artist and also an express key remote fan. I am running out of shortcut keys and wanna purchase another one. Could you please tell me if 2 remote works at the same time with different keyboard shortcuts for each remote? I use after effects as a primary tool.
So I need both to work with different shortcuts on both of them.
Does the vesa mount come with the ergo flex arm? or do u have to buy vesa mount serparately?
And here I am, waiting for any solution for my cintiq pro 16... :/
I can relate about the neck pain. :-(
Brad, how do you feel about Wacom 24 pro as a primary monitor when you are
not drawing?
It would make a great primary monitor if you have a stand that lets you use it that way
Now I know who ya remind me of! 0:53 Tom Green !!
Stupid question but I have just gotten a wacom cintiq 22 and was looking for a flex arm. Would this mount to the 22 or is this only for the pro models?
Do you know if the clamp area would fit around a 4” thick table? I’m not sure my table is too thick.
So in true Wacom stand fashion, it's great but costs HOW MUCH!? I am so glad my 24hd came with the stand built in, all 70lb of it.
Drama. I am between this Wacom Ergo Flex arm and the Ergotron strong version Lawrence have. Somebody around has tried both?
yes it’s etched glass but you can never be too careful with a 2,700$ device
also what software are you using? i purchased this same tablet with an Imac and autodesk seems very limited compared to the mobile version. and photoshop had barely any brushes and was SUPER laggy.
Rob Fred is wrong. of all the tages I have seen your Mon is one of the best.
One thing I find SUPER ANNOYING about most of these discussions and reviews about digitising tablet arms and stands is that they seldom show them in actual normal use by an actual artist in an actual workflow. I want to evaluate the ERGONOMICS of these - where do you rest your arm and hand, is your neck and head in a neutral position for good line-of-sight, how is it integrated with mouse, keyboard, monitor and the rest of your workflow, and does it allow you to work for long periods with minimum neck, arm, or wrist strain?
Lol, that is the elephant in the room with Cintiqs.
noones gonna comment on how expensive this is??? In canada its $500 ..........more expensive than some drawing monitors out there!
Sick
First
does this arm work on the XP-Pen Artist 22E Pro drawing tablet? any information would appreciated.
That's sad man, for not having anybody around to give you a hand...
Well Brad, I got one word for you: Hover Bo- I got two words for you: Hover Board!
No tell me again of some stupid Flex Arm!
Is that the cintiqPro24 or 32?
Hi I might be getting a Kamvas pro 12, is it good for a beginner animator
Check Xoot Stand out.
For the price, you think they would design something more solid. You can purchase an Amazon Basics Arm with Adaptiq Vesa Mount Adapter for $150 which does the same thing. Side note, isn't it easier to screw on the Upper Arm piece to the Cintiq first then place it on the Lower Arm of the stand? That way you don't struggle with a balancing effort, just an accuracy one.
Yep, i am using the same setup, 400 € for an arm? I even think it is the same ergotrom/amazon basics arm just with a different mount; but the rest seems the same to me.
@@nacheterompe Yeah crazy right? You wonder where all the money is going for it's cost. I scratch my head wondering who would even buy it when the market already has this type of arm mount for cheaper price.
Never film in front of a bright window ever again!...... Well.. You asked for it 😉
Ohh my gosh... I order that filthy bitch. :O 24pro + the Flexarm. Thanks for your graet videos!
Wacom pricing is embarrassing as usual: €400 for that freaking thing!
And it's basically the same as the Ergotron arm I used to use with the Cintiq 27.
Better invest in the vesa mount bracket and the Ergotron (even better, the Amazon Basics one) then, it'll cost you half that.
These arms are not strong enough to handle the Cintiq and VESA mount combined. Or if it does, it'll probably wiggle quite a bit since the combined weight is higher than the recommended limit for those arms. The Ergotron HX would be a better alternative but it's also more expensive (maybe a bit less than Wacom's one, though).
@@Psil0 The Ergotron LX (not even the LX HD!) can handle with no problems up to 11.5kg.
The Cintiq Pro 24 + Engine is 9kg.
Do the maths then.
@@azzart979 My bad, you are absolutely right. Guess that means I can stick to my LX if I upgrade to the new Cintiq.
@@Psil0 Problem arise with the 32" model, but I suppose there aren't many in the wild of them.
what program or app you use do animation?
380 dolars? hahahaha ... wacom are crazy...is so expensive!!! Ergotron rules
I wish I was sent free art stuff
Film in front of a bright window again!
You have to lose the springs more. They are now to stiff.