NASA Reveals New SpaceX & Blue Origin Moon Landing Update!
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- NASA Reveals New SpaceX & Blue Origin Moon Landing Update!
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Which moon lander do you think will succeed first? Let us know below!
spaceX. by about 5yrs. they have one sat on the pad , Where's blue origins?
The starliner 😮
Note to self: don't build the next explody rocket launch site next to wildlife refuge.
NASA wants 15 flights from Starship, but has only flown SLS once to date. Fish and Wildlife are so concerned about what SpaceX might pollute the local area, but every single rocket launcher in the world throws all of their first stages into the sea.
The reason why NASA is content with just one SLS launch could be because it was developed from STS and Delta IV technology which were extensively tested and used. Starship doesn't have that reliability record yet, and the shuttle disasters had NASA reconsider the importance of safety. And not every rocket launcher throws the first stage into the sea, a lot of Chinese and Russian launchers have the first stage impact land.
@@javant6993 Agree that 90% of the SLS tech was Shuttle tech. Then it should be a lot cheaper than it is.
@@SimonAmazingClarke in my opinion STS technology was very expensive to start with, but the production restart RS-25 engines are going to be a lot more expensive (including inflation) than those from the original production run. It could be because of NASA contracting (Boeing makes the core and second stage). Still, SLS is significantly more expensive than it could be.
The big difference between the levels of scrutiny can be narrowed down to who owns what program:
NASA: US government, they’re not going to follow their own laws.
Blue Origin: Bezos is willing to play ball with the politicians.
SpaceX: Musk has shown a commitment to free speech by exposing censorship collusion between social media and 3 letter agencies.
SpaceX is getting the vast majority of the government scrutiny not because they’re doing anything wrong, but because they’re owned by someone the current government dislikes.
@@javant6993That’s so much worse
Hey Kevin, you said Blue origin might launch something soon. Thanks I choked on my coffee… but it could happen.
Your comment made me laugh and choke on mine. Lol😊
Bezos: "Define soon".
I’m all for an FSA. The FAA has enough going on with aviation.
I'm for the MSA musk space agency. this man is the only thing our country has to be proud of
@@david7384you can also be proud of NASA
@@david7384I feel like crediting him with SpaceX’s successes is a massive disrespect to all the engineers he treats like shit.
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I thought that the subject was the proposal for the creation of an FSA which I second, not about investing in bitcoin.
You forgot to mention that the Blue Origin award was a politically influenced decision based on their lawsuit and financial contributions.
There are a number of skeptic’s across the professional “space community” of the projects success.
No shortage of skeptics for anything especially among SpaceX fanboys when it comes everything EXCEPT their own cult.
@@eichelbergergary SpaceX has proven its reliability unlike BlueOrigin
I certainly hope that rain water doesn't come from another area. Imagine the catastrophic damage from interstate rain.
😂😂
that rain crossed state lines!
I assume the FAA will fine the state that the rain(clouds) came from 🤣🤡
I dread to think about the possible environmental catastrophe.
Blue Origin might be ready in 2050
*maybe*
No
All the incompetent managers will make sure nothing happens.
It’s a tax write off for Lex luther
You are quite an optimist!
yes..like isro
I cannot wait for us to go back to the moon in our lifetime! Absolutely AMAZING!!!!!
I appreciate your fair and balanced presentation.
The sooner Vulcan flies, the faster we will see Dream Chaser Cargo in orbit!
And I REALLY hope NASA makes the Nov 2024 launch date of Artemis 2. That would be just like the Apollo 8 Christmas present we got in 1968 that single-handedly boosted America's Apollo program ahead of the Russian. Imagine HUMANS around the moon again!
Shout out Marshall Space Flight Center!! They do a lot of really hard work and it’s not talked about enough!!
If NASA's aim is to establish a permanent human presence on the lunar surface, then Starship is the only means to reach that goal. Starship is completely reusable unlike SLS/Orion, New Glenn, and Vulcan/Centaur, which at best are partially reusable. Consequently, the cost of operating Starship will be a few percent of the costs for those other partially reusable launch vehicles.
NASA, of course, understands this situation and knows that those partially reusable vehicles are dead ends. They are extremely expensive to operate and, at best, can only send 6 tons of payload to the lunar surface per launch. That's far too small to establish and maintain a permanent human presence on the lunar surface.
Starship, by contrast, can send 10 to 20 passengers and 100t (metric tons) of payload to the lunar surface on each mission.
Starship needs to prove it can make it up though.
At least we will already have a moon lander done by Space X before BO will take its 12 years of development. Things will probably turn out about the same way as the Dragon Starliner mess. Were Dragon had to come to NASA's rescue.
BO is going to take forever if they even deliver at all. I agree with angry astronaut in that it will probably take them a decade or so.
I can just see SpaceX landing on the Moon and 4 NASA astronauts bouncing out of the hatch that has the camera on it. Meanwhile hidden on the otherside of the ship 100 little rovers pop out and start dropping solar panels for SpaceX's Moon base...that is already refueling in LEO.
yes..spacex always first
It could also be the other way around this time. Who knows. There are so many unsolved problems for this project. I don't see anyone walking on the moon before the end of this decade.
Did you even listen to the segment? There is a strong possibility the BO lander will be ready first. Yes, New Glenn is tremendously late, but developing a lander is entirely different than developing a new heavy lift orbital launch vehicle…and BTW, Starship still isn’t one yet either….
FWS has decreed that there will be no thunderstorms allowed at Boca Chica until it has had time to verify that the rainwater is safe for the offshore wildlife in the area.
Man I'd hate to see how long the defence department would need before new weapons tests each time due to the game and wild life...
Turtle Bordellos.......they are real.
FWS: You can't test that laser weapon here! What about the ducks?
DARPA: What ducks? Show me the ducks.
Maybe if they finally go on with using Starship as a military transport vehicle, they'd get fast tracked?
@@longshot7601hehe. I think you mean
“You can’t test because of the ducks”
DARPA: “What ducks?”
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@@DunnickFayuro aren't falcon 9s already being used for defense tech launches?
Great job of reporting!
Nice - thanks! ❤
Congrats at nailing the 'deluge' issue Lol !....cheers.
Hi great 👍 space race for this video and thanks for the updates on space and everything yes i might have some news 🗞️ for you guys watching a earlier video of mine too day and it said the FAA had approved the new flight ✈️ for starship you may already know David 🚀❤️👌🇬🇧👍
EXCELLENT coverage of the licensing issues. You were fair and balanced and addressed the issues from all relevant points of view. You are rapidly becoming one of my favorite sites for space news.
If this was fair and balanced, it would address the environmental challenges that most space geeks just do not think about. For a group so focused on the future, there seems a worrying disregard for who on earth is going to do with out so you can keep on geeking out to this stuff?
4:16 wrong, MK1 is not supposed to be HLS, its supposed to be a cargo version. MK2 is supposed to be the HLS.
Why only show the current BO lander in the opening?
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8:50 and 8:52 Are those hardpoints for the heatshield?
Yes
@@wilmersandstrom2826 Thanks.
Unfortunately, there is probably no law that prohibits delaying the progress of the human civilization.
Someone should calcute the costs of let's say 3 months delay and bring some sort of legal action into play.
If they want to check consequences of Starship to the environment, they should do that fast. If they can't, they shouldn't do that in the first place
4:48; BO's new lander is a mockup, CGI, not the real thing at all so how does "it look like it's ready to fly" as only a concept?
And the SpaceX HLS likewise does not exist….
1:06 III and IV “five” ?
How about they use local water? I mean it makes no sense to ship in water which is costly and would have to be checked.
They use water from the nearby town
Starship could be operational since the beginning of 2023. That was one year licence delay for the first flight already and half a year for 2nd.
Yes but the local prawn habitats are safe.
@@andymouse what a sham XD
Here in May 2024, yeah no. Not fire another while, at least
Blue Origin will go on SpaceX rocket to the Moon. LOL
Reality check: Spacex rocket still failing…
@@eichelbergergary get Jeffs balls out of your mouth XD
Bezos should park his ego and urge to luxuriate at the door and play ball...
At 1:05 I think you might have meant 3 and 4 right? IV is 4, not 5.
No, he did mean 3 and 5. The IV was a mistake in editing. After all BO is not scheduled to go with 5 until 2029.
@@michaeldeierhoi4096Hmmm true. Then it should have been V then.
what happens in Bocachica when it rains? I guess nothing happens...
Clouds get fined
52 feet is not = 3 stories tall😮
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That for the update. Interesting times a coming. Hope politics doesn't get in the way.
This part is ALL that matters with government. 08:56
FAA regulatory board responsibilities should stick to airplanes and airports and have nothing to do with outer space. For example, It has no expertise on a rocket/capsule flying around the far side of the moon. A new separate regulatory "Space Board" should be set up that is not staffed with interfering political activist bureaucrats.
Blue origin, moon lander is a Death trap for all U.S. astronauts…
NASA needs to work with SpaceX for the moon lander and the future base on the moon!
You know it's amazing they could have done it in 66 but they can't do it now😂
Orion interstellar starship, with a crew of several dozen. 🚀🏴☠️
You know it is really time to move on and stop perseverating on what should have done. No it couldn't have been done in the 60's at least no more than what was done. The whole motivation to go to the moon was driven by the US not wanting the Soviets to get their first. Once the Soviets gave up on then the US effort to keep sending the Apollo to the moon collapsed as well.
>15 to 17 launches of starship
What? Per day? Once this thing flies 15 launches will be over before Jeff can even file a single lawsuit.
15 to 17 launches in total before NASA will let it land people on the moon
Maybe not. Jeff has had lawyers working on this suit for years already...
Assuming it doesn’t just go kablooy again…
@@eichelbergergaryspaceX has working rockets such as the falcon 9 and falcon heavy, blue origin has a giant dildo
I can see the benefit in the movie Moonraker where the lauch site was hidden away and didnt answer to any governments at all....why bother with all that wasted time...
Space X cannot get a rocket in orbit yet and land back safely. Wishful thinking for now.
Chop chop fish people
LOL !
Could Starship make it to orbit without a booster? If so, how much payload?
Yes it could, but it would only be able to carry a crew and a couple of week's worth of supplies. You couldn't carry tons of equipment and you couldn't go anywhere once you were in orbit if that is what you're asking.
Yes but not with a payload, heat shield, landing gear or propellant for landing so there would be no use.
I’m not sure it could in its current configuration but stripped down I think it could.
But no payload probably
On mars it definitely could however
"If Any body can make orbit my Jimmy (sorry my Elon) can 😂😂.
No, it couldn't. If entirely empty it has 8km/s of delta-v. even though it only takes 7.5km/s delta-v to make orbit, when you consider gravity losses (utterly unavoidable) and aerodynamic losses, it definitely couldn't get to orbit.
Where are the RCS thrusters? Buller? Buller?… anyone?
Bueller.
BO will be ready in 2330.
SPACE FORCE?
8 min ago. TOP BEANS!!
This needs updating badly 140 days is bulls
ESCANGHEC
SpaceX can do it if the FAA will just get out of their way.
Did we learn nothing from the Challenger explosion? Make goddamn sure the rocket is safe, bar none.
@@960456 What does an environmental impact study have to do with crew safety? It was an unmanned test flight. Their launch license isn't being held up because of safety concerns but environmental concerns.
The FAA is not Fish and Wildlife. And it's the law. Do you think Fish and Wildlife and the FAA and NASA should just break the laws?
That was a NASA issue, not listening to their Engineers and pushing to look good in front of the public and Congress. Starship is unmanned, so that is not an issue. They cannot improve4 if the FAA puts a stop to everything by nitpicking.....
@@Steven_Edwards You know who doesn't care about the environment? China. Change the law if you have to. This is not a game. Our actions in the next decade or two will determine who has supremacy in space for the next century. All of this red tape is costing us months that we don't have and our main geopolitical rival is taking advantage of our byzantine bureaucracy.
cool, then we will witness this all in 2524 when FAA will give a final launch license...
One thing that all NASA employees above the pay grade of GS14 can agree on is that no matter how many delays or missed milestones, their pay is always deposited to their checking accounts on time and they can't be fired.
The scam exposed nicely.
BO having their lunar vaporware ready by 2024 😂😂😂
Is BO the one shaped like a cock ?
Quote NASA is "helping SpaceX develop new hardware?" Really? Should it not be the other way around?
No marad 11tout sanawat no kalou
You and everyone else need to stop showing pictures of those two moon landers as the same size. One is really big and the other is really small.
Wait, it is still called the Von Braun Space Exploration Symposium? As in Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun member of the Nazi Party and Allgemeine SS with the rank of Sturmbannführer, aka a Major in the Nazi Military? Feels like it could use some re-branding, yeesh.
Why are we still talking bo?
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If blue origin can’t get to the moon in 2 days I’m canceling my membership.
Yeah I don’t see space x lander
Hey im the 11th comment
it is the FAA stonewalling Space X starship they have been ready for another launch for some time now.
It's not the FAA that is holding up the next launch, it is the FWS.
Too much freedom on TWITTER
Spacex will be stopped....
xD
Twitter is not Space X.
Vulcan- REALLY? ruining a holiday for an obvious publicity stunt?
Not ruining any holiday for some us… we will be there to see it
Who will land people on the moon next? China, India, Russia. At this rate, I just don’t think it’s a national priority.
3rd
Time for all the space programs to come together and move forward - take set paths. SpaceX and BlueOrigin do rockets and others develop the payloads. Like Von Braun have mobile launching sites, especially in the light of delays caused by government departments. The marine launchers are exactly righr.
Blue Origin can’t do anything right.
BE-4 is a disaster.
It’s only 4 years overdue.
Completely incompetent organization!
government getting in the way. gee...who'd thunk it?
Getting in the way of Musk’s wanton destruction of Boca Chica island and community…
1st
retard
@@ran631???
I can't stand so many regulations and interference from these agencies...
Starship could get something done if the government would get off his back and let him test his rocket
They'll get out the way when they've happy SX won't destroy the entire local area.
Musk needs to learn that everything in this world does not revolve solely around him, his toys and his ego…
@@eichelbergergary fools such as yourself keep civilization from progressing
Test , Fly , Learn , Repeat ? ..... might apply to a BF Rocket ... if you were loaded with Rockets , and can afford Blowing them Up ! ... Most Companies can only Afford 1 or 2 Rockets and they're Bankrupt by 3 ... They have to use : Learn , Plan , Test , Test , Test , Fly ..... Musk's way , just causes Toxic Litter , Explosions , Fires and Expensive Damage , if not Armageddon ... as we have seen ! ... I wouldn't brag about Mental Musk's way of doing things ... :-/
2025?????????????????? LOL
why is nasa judge and jury, do they own the moon
No, silly boy! Of course NASA doesn't 'own' the moon.
But they are 'working' to help slow down Spacex efforts so the Chinese get there first and then they can claim it !
they landed 12 people on moon..its there land..not like some countries sending rovers and landers..haha
@@CreativeThinkingSujith 🤣🤣🤣 that is the most american answer ever OMFG
bezos suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks
Biden loves him.
Blue Origin is the most insane place I have ever worked.
A disaster
…say the fanboys who dream of sucking on Elon’s wang….
What happens when a volcano blows it's top. Did it get environmental approval first?!?!
If a single Starship launch is as environmentally destructive as a volcano then yeah I would suggest maybe doing something about it
Starship isn’t some natural event that we have no control over
I do think there’s too much red tape but fact is we can’t let companies just launch rockets without making sure it’s safe for the environment first
Sorry I’m still approving the yellow stone volcanoes request
Not really a good comparison, is it.
Man, that is a REALLY stupid analogy. Volcanoes aren't controlled by humans, whereas rocket launches are.
They made it look so easy when they faked it 50 years ago 😅
feel sorry for you
SX is building a Mars lander. NASA has zero viable options, for a lander for it's Artemis lander. It's only option is using the SX Mars lander. The SX schedule is independent of the Artemis 3 goal, which was in reality, a political goal.
Hahaha, sorry BO's idea of building a Lunar lander within a decade is kind of a joke. Who thinks New Glenn is going to fly perfectly on it's 1st attempt. Let's see BO put a rock into orbit before we start talking about BO being a viable aerospace company.
Screw the fish in face department... It's not like they are trying to kill wildlife... Get on with it!!
Yeah fuck the fish !
If Elon was the only one WORKING, it might have an issue, But he is NOT, Spacex is thousands all working on aspects of the mission. The rest of the industry are slow pokes, doing it the old wasteful way. Disagree well just take A at the whole SLS game ( oh my don't do it the right way, we've got folkes to pay off. You know, it is the "Don't take my gravy away)
You seem to be so anti SpaceX, the bias shows in all your otherwise good videos.
Jeff Bozos. A whining, sniveling cry baby that didnt get a contract. The Alpaca lander is the best option to date!
They lost out because it burns methane, 6 times the price of lunar in situ hydrogen. NASA insist repeatably that lunar development must be "sustainable" i.e. cheap.
That's why Starship HLS is in for the chop, too expensive for Artemis.
Yawn... nothing new here.
Hold up; there's a symposium named after a Nazi scientist?
Werner von Braun was a highly respected rocket authority and the chief engineer on the Apollo/Saturn V program for NASA back in the fifties and sixties or did you conveniently forget that fact?
.... Who was still a nazi scientist who used slave labour to kill civilians of our closest allies. It made absolute sense to use his unique knowledge. But I agree he shouldn't be honoured.
Will never happen.😂
Same thing people have always said, yet they are always proven wrong.