Bryce Young favored over C.J. Stroud for No. 1 pick? Talks Jordan Love’s strengths | NFL | THE HERD
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- T. J. Houshmandzadeh joins Colin Cowherd on The Herd to discuss the latest news in the NFL. Houshmandzadeh weighs in on Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud ahead of the NFL Draft and explains who he believes will be picked No. 1 overall. The two discuss Anthony Richardson and debate whether he can fix his accuracy issues in the NFL. Houshmandzadeh explains Jordan Love’s strengths include his size and his arm.
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glad TJ pointed out arm strength being overrated... people forget that with anticipation and soft touch, QB can throw OVER the Defenders near scrimmage where as non cerebral QBs try to get it BETWEEN the defenders, looking for those few gaps. when QB throws OVER the defenders, no gap needed
TJ is one of my favorite guests Colin has. Great insight
absolutely!
Packer fan here, happy to hear his take on Jordan Love 🤟💚
I'm a Steelers fan, but I think Jordan Love is the next big QB name. Two years ago I was hoping the Steelers could figure out a trade to get Love in the building, but obviously it never happened. The guy has a very high ceiling.
I'm a chiefs fan living in Milwaukee. I'm excited for the packers fans to finally get to see Jordan play
Colin with the indecisive questions
Bro sounded like a cop
Great seeing TJ, a favorite Bengal of mine as I was growing up in Cincy
Colin looked so lost when TJ was giving substantive non-surface level answers
He did ha. I never see colin get flustered, but he kept interrupting (which he usually never does)
@J Money nah. Collin is killing it with the volume and has repeatedly said he'll keep broadcasting for a long time to come
Colin is awesome. How he acted in this clip is rare. He wasn't ready for tj going 7 deep on receivers. And why would he? He's not a scout or working with them
These guys in these interviews never say they don't like someone, every player asked about is great lol
Well they are top picks. What do u expect.
But he didn't say great about any of them this year. He only used that exact word about burrow
@Iuhgf Mnbert Baker was a top pick, Manziel was a top pick, Locker was a top pick, Tebow was a top pick, Paxton Lynch was a top pick, Geno Smith was a top pick, Sam Bradford was a top pick, Blaine Gabbert was a top pick, all projected to be good to great. Not expecting all to be great jus want them to give the real analysis and not political correct answers all the time. If he sucks nd u don't think he'll make it n nfl say that, have the courage of your conviction...
@Alexander Ritter Was being sarcastic nd exaggerated
@@evanburnett2887 i understand. He's hyping up bryce. Im just saying that reading between the lines tj doesn't think any will be as good as burrow, but that cj will still be good
Great interview. Would love to see more of T.J. in these interviews.
TJ has always been a good interview.
Colin doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about - it’s so obvious when he’s speaking with someone who truly knows
Agreed. He definitely does not have the eye for talent, especially in QBs.
@@travisoshea i didn't think that so much when talking the QBs but 100% when tj went 7 deep on receivers ha
@@alexanderritter1522 fair point
TJ is a straight up Cincinnati Bengals fan I know obviously because he played for us but he still cheers for us and talks good about us and the front office listen to some of his input when he trains these Draft prospects
Awesome 🎉 segment
TJ is a great analyst
Excellent show!
After the press conference, Bryce is now the Favorite
Bryce didn’t have good wr’s these last 2 years what are we saying. Mac hurts and tua played with the star wrs
I dont know if TJ remembers me but you took a picture with me and my family in 2004 I think after a vikings game and I was about 3 Flippin off the camera. Love it when TJ comes on and thank you again for the tickets!
It was Haskins who beat our burrow not jt
Accuracy is so important. Stroud is going to be a franchise QB in The NFL.
Who is your team
Facts
I doubt it
Just curious. Are you using complete percentage for accuracy, or paying attention to ball placement?
@@alexanderritter1522 he has the best ball placement in this class
CJ Stroud never won the Big 10 - but that doesn’t concern you??
Caleb about to go number 1 and he hasn’t,baker never won anything but a heismen
Young is more ready to play NFL style than CJ but CJ improved on his reads as the season wore on
😂😂😂
That beat in the beginning was hard
TJ is a very interesting voice to hear from and I think he’s done a great job and articulating what exactly makes each of these prospects great. I think hes reaching a little on a few points though like the Josh Allen accuracy issue which is obviously an outlier
I really think the Panthers organization needs to draft CJ there is no need in taking chances with Bryce you can't trade away your future picks and move up for an unknown of how his size will hold up in the NFL when CJ has the size and arm accuracy and has a level head just as Bryce ..Come on guys if you really think about it the only thing that separates CJ from Bryce is the running with the football highlights lol CJ already said he didn't need to run because he always found the open receiver he's very capable of running the ball only if needed think about that CJ would imo benefit the Panthers the most now and in the future lmk what y'all think ....so my question is should the Panthers roll the dice on young and take that gamble and next year be back to square one looking for that starting franchise QB but this time with out their picks
KEEP POUNDING
Bryce is accurate… he’s overthrown Ross lol TJ laying down a puff piece out the gate.
He COULD overthrow Ross, but he never would. He could overthrow John Ross driving an F1 car down the field. He’s going to go 100% completion for his career, neva missing. He’s also the strongest QB in history. Plus he’s the best leader in NFL history. Just a great locker room guy. He’s helped every single grandma in the U.S. cross the street. He also cured my friends young son of cancer.
Always sell your boy
my sentiments exactly.
@@drawkcab9731 such a Saint of a man
Who goes first? For me I'd go for the bigger guy, there are too many small QB's getting hurt (Tua, Kyler).
I like Bryce and Stroud. Both will have great careers as long as they are not expected to win a Super Bowl his 1st year starting in the league
so accurate but over throwing wrs LMMFAO WHATTTTTT
Love TJ, maybe the best at Fox!
Tj is an awesome guest at draft time
I like both CJ and Bryce but CJ is 0 and 4 against tough defenses Michigan Twice Oregon once and Georgia once. Never seen Bryce have a bad game even when he lost
I can see your argument but Stroud wasn’t to blame for any of those losses.
Lol Go take a look at Strouds stats in those games. Vs Oregon was his 2nd start in college and he kept them in the game with no help from the defense. He played well against ttun both times. And against UGA, he nearly dragged tOSU to a victory w/o the team's top 2 WRs, top 2 TEs AND top 3 RBs.
@@stevo0317oh I noticed you didn’t mention the two Michigan games. I like CJ , but Bryce has him beat in clutch time play against tough opponents. If we playing fantasy football im picking CJ. If we playing nfl playoff im picking Bryce
Refs bailed out Bama against Texas. That was absolutely a safety, but you go ahead and revise history and insert caveats
Team game...Einstein
Colin trying to talk smack about how Aaron throws and his body mechanics then getting told that's how it should have always been taught and is being taught now!! Shows how clueless Colin really is!! "Brady gets his power from his hips. Where does Aaron get his?" TJ, "Hips"😂🤣
Arm strength means players can throw off platform with zip on the ball but likewise, a player with good footwork who can use his body, can throw powerfully as well.
Any sport any technique... if you finish in the slot... you finish in the slot. Great job guys. Hated TJ as a Bengal bc I''m a Steeler fan, but dude was made to do this.
TJ always a home run guest
Colin didn’t like how one of his questions turned into a compliment for Aaron Rodgers lol. He quickly pivoted lol
Almost called him Hockenson
Josh Allen is now accurate yet leads in INTs? 🤨 😅
When you’re 80% of your offense, you are gonna turn the ball over trying to make plays happen. People only look at stats and make decisions on players it makes no sense.
@@WillBrisk. he lost you guys game several times in the redzone. I'm not saying he's bad, he's one of the best QBs in the league but he is a turnover machine
Wilson from Stanford's evaluation is inconsistent. I think it's because of injury. Some have him as a 3rd rounder some a fifth. Not unreasonable but a big gap this close to the draft.
Colin wasn’t remotely interested in Bryce or CJ on the basketball court…
Rumor has it CJ is a big-time hooper
It’s November 21 2023 and Colon has ate his words on CJ Stroud he said he has to be a Trevor Lawrence to overcome a bad organization well well well he’s better then Trevor easily and he’s having greatest rookie season ever clown
okay tj💯💯💯
"Ya see, Bryce is just different mentally, he can go anywhere and succeed, whereas CJ needs more support. Therefore, I am taking CJ as my number one." Huh??? Media people keep trying to convince themselves it's CJ for some reason.
Well if you take someone number one it usually means you are selling out for them. It means you are making sure that you support him in any capacity. You are the gem of that team now, so it makes sense. Bryce won't need to be that supported to that degree
🤣🤣
WTF?! THIS IS LITERALLY THE MEDIA LYING 🤣
OKAY T.J. SAYS : BRYCE IS A DIFFERENT PERSON MENTALLY HE CAN GO ANYWHERE AND SUCCEED HE HAS A STRONG ARM AND IS ACCURATE. AND STROUD IS MORE FIERY WHICH MEANS EMOTIONAL, AND HE'LL NEED MORE A SUPPORTING ENVIRONMENT, WITH A COACH THAT BELIEVES IN HIM AND PLAYERS THAT ALREADY PROVEN TO HELP HIM SUCCEED.
SO THEN WHY TAKE STROUD OVER BRYCE???
Makes no sense 😂
@@CosmicRx7 I worked for ESPN I've seen it a thousand times behind the scenes where analysts talk about pushing the agenda to make things more interesting. They fuking lie all the time.
Playing it safe over concerns about Bryce size.
That's Cap
Stop acting like Trevor Lawrence overcame Jacksonville they fired the coach and brought in a Super Bowl winning coach 😂
I think the men rotate a quarter of the year with outside
CJ on film looks very good plus he's a lot taller and bigger than Bryce Young. The problem is Ohio State quarterbacks just never seem to make it in the NFL for some reason.
Burrow has the starting role at OSU before he broke his hand I do believe.
No he didn’t it was a battle also he was better at that time
That's interesting. Once real evaluators sit down and talk about these two CJ and Bryce. They usually end up picking CJ.
CJ Stroud hopefully will be Carolinas new QB1.
Interesting he didn’t mention Addison there
Jordan Love will be a NFL MVP one day
“It’s ALWAYS a good throw. Always.” “He’s overthrowing John Ross!” - what a puff piece
Arm Strength Matters
Trevor/Mahomes/Allen/Burrow have strong enough arms and it shows
Tua and Mac use anticipation and when Defenses jump it, the arm strength matters bc certain throws u have to muscle. Trevor coulda survived without a Dougie P but Urban Meyer is arguably the worst HC of all time
With all the moves the Panthers have made in Free Agency they are setting up to draft CJ Stroud, he has the body type, hes a mobile QB but would rather sit back and throw from the pocket and is very accurate and when he does decide to use his legs it surprises alot of defenses but he does it with ease and reminds me alot of how my boy Mahomes runs when he gets out the pocket, but Stroud is faster, and hes accurate man, and with Stroud and a guy like Andy Dalton there to mentor him throughout the offseason tht will be huge too, and they have made some nice moves in Free Agency, if they sign Stroud, their right there with the Saints with Derek Carr and the weapons they have AND THE REALLY GOOD DEFENSE SAINTS HAVE, i think either could win the division, i dont see Baker helping Tampa win tht division and i think ATL is still a couple years away and undecided still about Desmond Ridder at QB, and ATL doesmt have a legit #1 WR, they have a really great talent with alot of athletic ability in TE Kyle Pitts and they have made some decent moves to get their defense better and the moves they made will also help the younger guys on tht defense who have alot of upside only get better, and they need a legit RB... If i was ATL idk if i go WR or RB with their Top 10 pick, i might just have to take RB Bijan Robinson from Texas, because hes THT GUY and gna be a great RB in the NFL and theres not alot after him this year at RB, alot of mock drafts have him midway 1st rd, but if im ATL i need a Framchise Guy offensively, and WR is pretty good and alot deeper in this draft so i would have to think of taking Bijan Robinson at their pick in Top 10 and get everything else after tht, thts just me from where the Division is going and ATL being the only team rn without a legit Face of the Franchise
Wild that John Ross is working out with Bryce Young lol
Is he out of the league
well well well
Go watch the highlights on TH-cam! Stroud is in a different level than Young! All Young's passes were 10 yards to wide open guys. Stroud threads the needle at 20 to30 yards!
The chemistry between Colin and j Mac is awesome. Made the show watchable
Jmac is horrible. Did you see yesterday he was giving colin a hard time about having a cigar and a cocktail a few times a week? Not funny, giving him a hard time, but corporate pg giving him a hard time
All these guys say all of this stuff every year and the vast majority of these athletic running qbs end up busts....remember Josh Dobbs? Yep...thats where it goes...
Colin gets rock solid over some good ol arm strength
Trying hard to make his size not matter. It matters.
The minute he said Bryce was consistently 200+ I knew bs was coming out of his mouth. No shot Bryce consistently plays over 200
He means currently lmao
Seems like he only talked positive about everyone
Tons of ppl said Herbert be good😂
what recievers was Bryce playing with?
too short though..Bryce Young
Jon Ross. Super busy
I think it's hard to evaluate a QB that comes from a big time program. They are surrounded by studs. Not only are they studs but often they were backups before starting. A guy like CJ doesn't deal with messy pockets. Everyone he throws to is better than the guy defending him. We shall see. Definitely has the skills. Just a bit short.
He just addressed that. An example is Joe B with Chase and Jefferson.
Well I think that is where Bryce actually has a leg up on CJ. Last season Bama didn't have a great receiving core. Their leading receiver was the RB. There was definitely games where Bryce ran for his life too. Overall I get your point but I think it all depends on the mentality of the QB and how much a team supports their QB. A lot of big name Qbs go to bad organizations and just can't save a dumpster fire.
i think carolina’s wr room is 10000000x better than alabamas wr room lol, the only real weapon young has has is jameson williams and that’s it
Wow… where my falcons at!? U don’t think Atlanta is a better team with all the free agents they signed. Think they’re better than the Texans with all the moves they’ve made
I have them dead-even. If I would take CJ over Bryce it wouldn't be because of height. QB success is just as much intangibles as tangibles. The other positions rely on tangibles more.
Tangibles is why the league missed on Flutie, they kept focusing on his height but not what he was doing.
B-Young is modern day drew brees with Russell Wilson athleticism
So if he stays healthy, he's a lock hall of famer? Because brees is for sure going to the hall
@@alexanderritter1522 I think so tbh. He can sling that mf
@@alexanderritter1522 Brees wouldn't be in the Hall without Sean Payton. Your career is determined on your situation
@@Hue-Man so if Bryce young got drafted by the Broncos youre guaranteeing he would be a hall of famer?
Colin is the last NFL TH-camr to stick with Young at #1, LOL! Everyone else have moved off of him to go with CJ. I just saw Chris Simms saying Young wasn't even on the same level as Stroud.
But how good really is Chris Simms at evaluating talent? Alec Pierce was his #1 WR in the last draft.
Cover the NCAA Tournament, why don't you?
Exciting hopefully Carolina takes CJ and we get Bryce in Houston- I think Bryce is another Mahomes!
Ramon Campbell funny thing is Caleb Williams is better than both.
No jalen Hyatt ❓
Colin is still trying to push that “Trevor Lawrence good”. Bro, we seen what he did with Urban
I'm glad they called Will Levis a bust lol. Because he is.
I have always thought young would get number one but I saw a poll on TH-cam and Stroud won by a lot.🤔🤔🤔 I'm sticking to my pic
Man he said CJ because he needs to go to a coach that believes in him
But Bryce better quarterback he would fit in on any team
😂😂
Dallas please go up to #2 and get Bryce Young
Sounds like Zach Wilson i wouldnt do it
I’d guess Love will be another Kirk Cousins/ Dak Prescott at best
Quarter
So is it Bryce Young,or C.J.Stroud
Courta
Panthers) CJ Stroud
Texans) Bryce Young
Colts*) will Levis
Cardinals) will Anderson
Seahawks) Anthony Richardson
Lions) tyree Wilson
Raiders) jalen carter
Falcons) Christian Gonzalez
Bears) Peter skoronski
Eagles) Devon Witherspoon
Buddy was low-key glazing Bryce
Accurate but overthrows?
You missed the point
The Bucks quarter
The Cowboys quarter is the confusion
CJ is superior in every way except maybe maturity.
💚💛 Jordan Love 💚💛
Us Texan fans want CJ Stroud
As a Panthers fan im cool with that. I want Bryce although i absolutely love both guys. I think both of our teams are getting a great NFL prospect.
My Panthers are not smart enough to take Bryce Young, unfortunately. C.J. Stroud is really really good but it’s like taking Herbert over Mahommes. Stroud could be a long term top 10 QB. Young could be MVP maybe hall of fame. I’d take Bryce all day every day and I’m a ‘Bama hater.
CJ #1
colin buying youngs stock
I'm going to laugh if Colin turns out to be right. 😀
99 percent of the quarterbacks who are short in this era , and they can’t survive more than three years. Russell Wilson and Jamal Murray and baker mayfield didn’t survive this season
Kyler ?
Let's see what Baker can do in a new environment and fully healthy. Russell with Sean Payton will probably rebound. Murray is still a quality QB when healthy. It all remains to be seen.
Kyler right and he couldn’t survive in this league in last two seasons without getting hurt okay and Russell Wilson was so bad that his teammates were bashing him and baker mayfield was so bad that he was transferred twice in the last season
@@Nancy-nc4sw I hope you’re right because the guy isn’t a good leader like any other guys because he’s too cocky and ignorant
@@hornwarriorking3959 Yeah, this is going to be THE critical season for them. Running out of time.
CJ is going to be a descendant player