Do Tan Tui. The term is used to denote leg/foot work in some other styles, I believe, but it's also a specific "village" style of its own that focuses on leg and footwork. There used to be videos floating around on the conditioning exercises they have, which are pretty hardcore.
Thought Id share these video with you when you mentioned the hand shackle kung fu. There is a master in Japan. th-cam.com/video/cpeViE1rsic/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/b4ABPKxt4kA/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/PjhV69pMm-Y/w-d-xo.html
I train Choy Lee Fut and we have the bench as one of the weapons, similar to some of the clips you showed but it tends to use some of the same body movement principles as the CLF fist forms.
脱拷拳 (Breaking Shackles Boxing) is just a name for many different taolu (forms/sets) across China i.e. Chuojiao Quan, Hua Quan, etc. The 板凳 (stool) is a very common weapon in systems that originate south of the Yangtze, and a vast array of 板凳 taolu from Jiangsu to Yunnan can be found. 板凳拳 (Stool Boxing) is just a name that can be applied to any of these forms, and is not an independent martial art. And finally, I know the Duck Boxing seems like something straight out of a Golden Harvest film, but if you look closely a lot of the movements are actually used in the clinch. Funnily enough, I managed to use the hand movements at 4:00 - 4:02 to reposition myself in the clinch when I was sparring and it gave me space to use a knee strike.
The shackle fighting style could potentially be useful in grappling situations. I could imagine using it in tandem with jiu-jitsu could do some damage.
As it turns out, if someone's determined enough, there's a system. The chair defense reminds me of Gutter fighting (also known as Defendu) where the utilization of chairs was part of its curriculum. As it just so happens, it was originally developed for the Shanghai Municipal Police, so there's probably some genuine overlap. The hand shackles reminds me of Capoeira and its origins, which is fascinating. The Duck is...well its ducks. I am not even surprised by that because I am aware that crab kung fu is a thing.
I’ve been training Jow Ga for years and there is a bench form in the system. It’s pretty cool and many of the same movements in this video are in our form
I know about the bench one because of Shaw brothers. I thought the same thing about the handshackle one. 52 and Capoeira combined would be an Afro version of the hand shackle style. Then they can have matches with the Chinese style to exchange ideas
Yea the bench is quite interesting, I actually own one that I commissioned to a carpenter. In use you combine concepts of shield, staff and dual weapons. Super interesting, versatile and remarkably powerfull (mine is quite big, two people can sit right next to each other) but since it's all blunt and has so many handles your oponent has an easy time neutralizing it if he happens to get close enough to grab the bench safely. The duck style I actually never seen before, it's quite funny. I'd like to see if they have application for those forms or if it's just artistic for the most part as you say. Loved this video, I hope it does well!
It's funny that you mentioned the 52blocks community because I'm sure "The Other" Shackle Hands style founder/community has tried to collab with them as well.
Im not sold on the Duck style... (not enough information) However, a LOT of Chinese arts have special Deceptive Practices. They make you think that they have an Opening or Weakness... and if you fall for the BAIT... they have a really Nasty Counter for you. I had a dude show my a 3 movement response, for the TIGER art. I believe the first movement, was a light parry of the OPs strike. The 2nd movement, being a Diagonally Upwards Tiger Palm under the OPs jawline... causing their head to be lifted up and to the Opposite side. The 3rd move, was the finisher. A Full Body Mass Powered Tiger Palm (left handed) to the opposite side of the OPs jaw. The dude said, this was designed to Unhinge the OPs jawbone from its socket. Looking at his Massive forearms (and feeling his medium level of power when sparring him)... I knew this guy was capable of such a feat. He also showed me another Tiger movement... that I believe Id seen before, from a Karate instructor (Karate actually came from White Crane Kung Fu). Using an INVERTED Tiger-Paw (fingers rolled backwards at the 2nd knuckles... you plunge your knuckle points into the spot directly under the OPs bottom Rib. You can penetrate deep enough inwards, that you can Latch your fingers behind his bottom Rib. Once you latch on... you then YANK full force, and break his rib from the Inside. Some extremely Brutal techniques... that nobody would want to have to experience in Real Barefist Combat. I also met another guy that was learning the Tiger style... and he was telling me that for one of the teachers future tests... that they would place a garden hose section, under a piece of Carpet.. stapled to a board. You have to be able to use your Claw type attack, to grasp the hose from under the Carpet... and tear it out of the tough Carpet. Obviously, this isnt likely the traditional method of training such a thing... However, there probably was something Similar to it, in the Ancient past. I will say, that there are things in Chinese artforms, that are merely for some Artistic flair. But like Ive said... a lot of them are for Deceptive purposes. And... a lot of things that appear to be "Flowery", are a LOT more powerful and effective, that you might ever have imagined. One dude I was sparring... started doing these full body powered Wind-Mill hammerfists. It looked like a move From Ling Xiaoyu, of Tekken 3... except he stayed upright... and he was able to keep advancing forwards towards me, while still doing these windmills. It wasnt just the arms, either. He raised his arms high above his head, and his whole shoulders were extending... as his whole body Turned sidewards. I thought about trying to launch a toe-stabbing kick between these downwards raining Hammerfists.. but the time between each of them... was 1 second or Less. Even IF I had timed it PERFECTLY... I would not have gotten enough penetration depth to effect him... and his massive forearm, would have easily SHATTERED my leg bone. And that would have been followed up, by his next Hammerfist, smashing into my skull. The only option I had, was to evade and walk away... As I couldnt come up with a viable solution, while in combat, that quickly. A lot of people dont realize the level of Intensity and insane training methods, that are used to make these methods effective. Tiger and Eagle Claw, for example, have extreme Finger / Grip Strength exercises... making it extremely bad, if they manage to get a Hold of you. Snake style, would toughen the fingers.. to the point where they can Penetrate deep into your flesh... without breaking their fingers... and causing massive internal damages to the OP. Iron Body conditioning, makes ones fists, and body... dense like a block of steel. Even mild interceptions with an Iron Conditioned Forearm... will make a modern trained sport-fighter, Recoil away in severe pain and damages (at highest level, causing fractures / internal damages). Finally, arts like the Snake style, are a lot more popular and easy to understand its methods of functionality. There are also a lot more videos showing its applications, as well. Sometimes the more Obscure Chinese arts, were Obscure for good reasons. That said... every artform tends to have value within them. With an Open mind, one might discover a lot more value... than they had originally assumed.
Very interesting. I love seeing all of the different styles and how unique each one looks. I especially like seeing the animal styles and knowing there is a duck style is quite cool.
Did not know about Duck Style. Though I had heard about a mandarin duck kick or something like that. About wooden stool or bench, it's a very common weapon in southern styles like Choy Lee Fut or Hung Gar. Also pretty sure Northern Shaolin (the system developed by Gu Ruzhang) has one (at least my school has it), that same style has a hands shackled form.
Those wooden "Benches" were the common seats, that were all over China. As such, many Chinese arts, contain training in how to use them, for combat. This was of course, in addition to the +15 other different Chinese weapons. The more in-depth the artform... the more weapons that they tended to teach and train. A lot of these guys started training in these artforms, from as young as 3yrs old. By the time they were teens, these guys were downright Brutal fighters. They trained like 8hrs every day, all year round... and they used to fight against each other, and against other artforms, regularly. Ive heard that many of the deeper arts, took anywhere from 15 to 20 years to fully learn, and fully Master... and that was with training at that pace, intensity, and number of hours per day. Of course, Im speaking about Pre-Industrial China (before the C0mmines took over, and banned all martial arts practices, for like +60 years).
1:44 I believe they're performing "Wusong Tuo Kao." (th-cam.com/video/FO-L0-QDDJ8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ztURdqI4-CR6V-Nv) The goal of this form is to learn how to generate short power, to put BOTH arms to use at the same time, and also how to use the upper body torque to add to kicks. A left elbow is more powerful if both arms twist to the right, right arm shoots force across the back into the elbow to augment it. This, is what I took from the form.
i'm loving this style of content, the only downside is that it reminds me that I missed out the stool seminar that my choy li fut school imparted last year, I hope I can make it the next time.
I trained a variant of 功力拳 where one form also involved a "handcuffed" movement where you would keep your hands together as if they were bound. My master's explanation was also that it was intended for this purpose. Unfortunately, I never found any video of this particular form. Maybe it was just very regional and specific to his lineage.
Sanda is a De-Balled version of Kung Fu. Its severely watered down. Its basically western Kickboxing. Compared to the MUCH more advanced Chinese combat arts... Sanda is the most Basic white-belt (beginner) level material. Sanda was created by the COMMIES (CCP / Govt.). The same commies that created Modern "Wushu", right after lifting a +60 year BAN on all combat training practices. Why did the commies create Wushu? Wushu is basically all Acrobatics, and ZERO combat training. Its basically a choreographed acrobatics dance routine. The commies may have beat their Citizens into complete Submission... but they still are extremely FEARFUL of them launching a Counter-Revolution against them. This is why they created a martial art, that has NO combat drills + no combat instructions. When that wasnt enough to satisfy their Citizens... they copied Kickboxing (Sanda and San Shou), and put their own spin on it. But make no mistake, these arts PALE in comparison to the REAL deal. Also, while there may have been many Chinese artforms... the truth is.. that many of them use a lot of the same technology. As what worked best... won... and what won, tended to get absorbed into these various other artforms. Furthermore... the more Obscure Chinese arts... often were Obscure for good reasons. Where as the more Popular styles, like Shaolin, 5 Animal Style, Choy Li Fut, and many others... were practiced far more widely, because of their much higher reputation of effectiveness. That said, there can always be something special and valuable, in every artform. Also, there is a lot of Deceptive practices in these various artforms... which, present an opening or weakness... and if you fall for the Bait / Trick / Trap... then you get a very nasty counter.
Got to admit Jerry got me with the Bartitsu clip. I started thinking (rare for me) 'That's NOT Kung Fu' , then he completed the bait and switch, DOH! As for Duck style, love the look of it but there is a lot of acting involved, just like Dog style. Although Dog style looks much more useful.
Skateboard for self defense. It would make sense to use it like the "chair". Maybe hold it by the trucks(metal thingy where the wheels are attached) and used it to shield attacks and hit with the nose or tail, the griptape would add some damage. But in reality all I've seen is it being used like a "baseball bat" two hand holding over one truck and wild swings. The video made me think of Jackie Chan about the stool part, and of Xu Xiaodong near the ending, "duck styles" 🤦♂️
Yeah, all street fights with skateboards I’ve seen feature the skate kid holding the board at one end, two hands on the deck, with the truck/wheels swung at the target. Makes sense since that gets the most weight at the end of your reach. Swinging edge of the deck on would produce some naaasty cuts, but I think the mechanics of holding it that way would be less intuitive
Yes! Wang Tao(bench)Choy Lee Fut, Hung Gar, Bok Fu P’ai are the styles I studied 😳Wu Sung break the Manacles! Duck/Drake set from Pek Kwar(not over stylish) Kun Lun double ended daggers, wanderer style(Lo Man P’ai) 😬
Need to point out that Bartitsu wasn't a cane fighting style, but a syncretic style that the Englishman Edward William Barton-Wright developed from four others, namely English Boxing, Jujitsu, Savate, and La Canne. The latter being THE Western cane fighting style, developed in France because the streets of Paris had practically gotten under control of the gangs collectively known as "Les Apache" and the Parisians knew better than trust the police (that was not only inadequate to the challenge but also widely hated since the government had the audacity of disbanding the local National Guard detachment that used to do the job and replaced it with a detachment of the state police, that the Parisians considered outsiders brought in to order them around), thus they took old swordfighting techniques and adapted them to walking canes (and at the same time imported Savate from the south and adapted it to streetfighting with the addition of their local wrestling techniques, the precursor to Parkour, and of course La Canne). Paris between 1871 and 1914 was one dangerous place...
That hands-shackled style reminds me of Japanese Jujutsu, when the old samurais lose their sword in battle they cross the hands like if they would still were handlind the sword (hands opened as far as i know, i'm not a jujutsu practitioner). The duck style i've heared about many years ago but never saw it as awkward as that.
Wasn’t there a duck style that a famous general invented, like Yue Fei or Guan Yu? Some cool kung fu styles here: th-cam.com/play/PLt-M8o1W_GdSL_pC-Y9qzGH6frtu-HO_f.html&si=jz_je7gG6Zr5FqYZ
Bro, one of the channels there has a video with a group of people using wooden stools. Thank you my man for all the links! th-cam.com/video/QmM50BHzNno/w-d-xo.html
I'd say Wu Song is entirely fictional, rather than semi-mythical. There's no historical documents about him, and he only appears in fictional stories written several hundred years after he's said to have existed. One of my favourite characters from one of my favourite novels, but definitely not a historical person. Completely made up.
@@FightCommentary With Wu Song? Not that I'm aware of, other than in Water Margin where he breaks his cangue at Flying Cloud Pool and kills the guards who were bribed to kill him. The person who actually created Wusong tuo kao, just looked back to old literature and decided to attribute it to Wu Song. Lots of incidents like that throughout Chinese history. Same with Yue Fei getting attributed martial arts that very likely didn't exist during his time. Or Zhou Tong who also gets the same thing, and also gets students attached to him centuries after he lived. Another good example would be the Zhuge Nu (or Chu-ko Nu). That weapon was around almost 600 years before Zhuge Liang was even born, yet Zhuge Liang gets attributed as the inventor of it. Most of these martial arts attributed to people like Wu Song, or Yue Fei, or Zhou Tong, they are all invented during the 19th century (1800s). The oldest Asian martial arts that we have actual manuals for and actual historical documents, would be in the Jixiao Xinshu that Qi Jiguang created, from the 16th century. There's a couple of texts from the Han dynasty that describe some unarmed combat techniques, but they don't go into too much depth.
Duck style kung fu (Ya quan) has 0% of dance-like qualities. What they do with their hands are hand forms from Tai Chi and yong chun, with their head and legs they are imitating the walk and head movement of a duck. Lookup that one move called "duck-in" in wrestling.
Hand shackled kung fu is literally chuo jiao with handcuffs. There's also a documentary that tells the story about a man that fought with handcuffs by using his legs.
@@FightCommentary I didn't find a whole documentary about him but rather a Wushu documentary called "This is Kung Fu" on youtube which told a short story of Hand shackled Kung Fu. Now, the reason why I Said that this style is literally chuo Jiao but with handcuffs is because of the kicks and footwork with the Hand techniques.
@@FightCommentary Sarong is a sash-like garment that can be worn around the waist or over the shoulder--there are empty hand techniques that have the wrists tethered to each other by the sarong for choking and locking, etc. There's a lot more mobility than the bound-hand kung fu, but both restrict hand movement in some way
I think Duck Kungfu is old man kungfu. Made body still fluid and fit. I think at that age, this is the most important self defence move. At that age boxing or wrestling kinda useless or even harmfull. Imagine 2 very oldman, one use MMA and other Duck Kungfu. MMA practicion could hurt himself and lost. Duck running movement look like old man run but trying not to trip. Maybe that is the purpose.
LMAO a couple people in the comments doing the usual thing of saying these wouldn't stand a chance in an mma/muay thai/whatever match, but like, one of these uses a chair as a weapon??? Are you proposing a match where one guy has to use their standard unarmed combat sport and the other gets to bash them with a stool??? XD Usually I agree tma tends to lose to combat sports but lol I'm just sitting here imagining like "yeah so you usually expect the mma fighter to have a big advantage over the kung fu fighter, BUT HERE COMES THE KUNG FU MASTER WITH THE STEEL CHAIR!"
Growing up in NJ, there were guys who learned chicken kung fu and dog kung fu. No kidding! These guys would travel to NYC and Northern NJ to learn this stuff.
Yeah come on Jerry , find some really obsure boxing styles. I remember there is one from a hill tribe that fought on mountains in the fog using low stances and a rope loop. It was southern, maybe Yunnan???..then there is things like bajiquan and chinese muslim kung fu styles....or famous historical boxers that made the styles famous......its often a downhill.slide from that boxer to today for most styles so it would be good to remind people there were actually highly skilled fighters that made the styles famous.
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What kungfu styles that we haven't featured should we feature in the next episode of this series?
Do Tan Tui. The term is used to denote leg/foot work in some other styles, I believe, but it's also a specific "village" style of its own that focuses on leg and footwork. There used to be videos floating around on the conditioning exercises they have, which are pretty hardcore.
Dog Kung Fu (狗拳, thank you Wikipedia) would be good.
Thought Id share these video with you when you mentioned the hand shackle kung fu. There is a master in Japan.
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Have you heard of Red Sand Palm kung fu
You should look it up see if it is a real thing
I train Choy Lee Fut and we have the bench as one of the weapons, similar to some of the clips you showed but it tends to use some of the same body movement principles as the CLF fist forms.
脱拷拳 (Breaking Shackles Boxing) is just a name for many different taolu (forms/sets) across China i.e. Chuojiao Quan, Hua Quan, etc. The 板凳 (stool) is a very common weapon in systems that originate south of the Yangtze, and a vast array of 板凳 taolu from Jiangsu to Yunnan can be found. 板凳拳 (Stool Boxing) is just a name that can be applied to any of these forms, and is not an independent martial art. And finally, I know the Duck Boxing seems like something straight out of a Golden Harvest film, but if you look closely a lot of the movements are actually used in the clinch. Funnily enough, I managed to use the hand movements at 4:00 - 4:02 to reposition myself in the clinch when I was sparring and it gave me space to use a knee strike.
Please show us how you apply Duck style. I will definitely feature that!
The shackle fighting style could potentially be useful in grappling situations. I could imagine using it in tandem with jiu-jitsu could do some damage.
The Duck Fu is the most beautiful form of bullshido I've seen.
WTF?? Ya quan is literally in western wrestling, they just called it Duck-in.
I think if the shakle style Kung fu, 52 blocks and keysi guys got together you could create a pretty cool martial art from the synthesis those three.
And then some capoeira as extra flair on top of the three you mention!
As it turns out, if someone's determined enough, there's a system.
The chair defense reminds me of Gutter fighting (also known as Defendu) where the utilization of chairs was part of its curriculum. As it just so happens, it was originally developed for the Shanghai Municipal Police, so there's probably some genuine overlap.
The hand shackles reminds me of Capoeira and its origins, which is fascinating.
The Duck is...well its ducks. I am not even surprised by that because I am aware that crab kung fu is a thing.
Gutter sounds awesome! I’ll take a look. And yes! I heard similar things about capoeira too.
I’ve been training Jow Ga for years and there is a bench form in the system. It’s pretty cool and many of the same movements in this video are in our form
Do you have a clip? I would love to see!
@@FightCommentary This student I found is from another school with close lineage to the master I train under. th-cam.com/video/GeobiRIAlHM/w-d-xo.html
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Damn, it would be so sick to show up to a kung fu tournament and compete in the weapons category with one of those stools. I love kung fu.
I know about the bench one because of Shaw brothers. I thought the same thing about the handshackle one. 52 and Capoeira combined would be an Afro version of the hand shackle style. Then they can have matches with the Chinese style to exchange ideas
Just makes me think of Jackie Chan, soo cool actually
Except that he can use any furniture, not just benches.🚽
Jackie Chan used benches in his early movies. There was 1 scene with bench and table in original Drunken Master
Yea the bench is quite interesting, I actually own one that I commissioned to a carpenter. In use you combine concepts of shield, staff and dual weapons. Super interesting, versatile and remarkably powerfull (mine is quite big, two people can sit right next to each other) but since it's all blunt and has so many handles your oponent has an easy time neutralizing it if he happens to get close enough to grab the bench safely.
The duck style I actually never seen before, it's quite funny. I'd like to see if they have application for those forms or if it's just artistic for the most part as you say.
Loved this video, I hope it does well!
It's funny that you mentioned the 52blocks community because I'm sure "The Other" Shackle Hands style founder/community has tried to collab with them as well.
Im not sold on the Duck style... (not enough information) However, a LOT of Chinese arts have special Deceptive Practices. They make you think that they have an Opening or Weakness... and if you fall for the BAIT... they have a really Nasty Counter for you. I had a dude show my a 3 movement response, for the TIGER art. I believe the first movement, was a light parry of the OPs strike. The 2nd movement, being a Diagonally Upwards Tiger Palm under the OPs jawline... causing their head to be lifted up and to the Opposite side. The 3rd move, was the finisher. A Full Body Mass Powered Tiger Palm (left handed) to the opposite side of the OPs jaw. The dude said, this was designed to Unhinge the OPs jawbone from its socket. Looking at his Massive forearms (and feeling his medium level of power when sparring him)... I knew this guy was capable of such a feat.
He also showed me another Tiger movement... that I believe Id seen before, from a Karate instructor (Karate actually came from White Crane Kung Fu). Using an INVERTED Tiger-Paw (fingers rolled backwards at the 2nd knuckles... you plunge your knuckle points into the spot directly under the OPs bottom Rib. You can penetrate deep enough inwards, that you can Latch your fingers behind his bottom Rib. Once you latch on... you then YANK full force, and break his rib from the Inside. Some extremely Brutal techniques... that nobody would want to have to experience in Real Barefist Combat.
I also met another guy that was learning the Tiger style... and he was telling me that for one of the teachers future tests... that they would place a garden hose section, under a piece of Carpet.. stapled to a board. You have to be able to use your Claw type attack, to grasp the hose from under the Carpet... and tear it out of the tough Carpet. Obviously, this isnt likely the traditional method of training such a thing... However, there probably was something Similar to it, in the Ancient past.
I will say, that there are things in Chinese artforms, that are merely for some Artistic flair. But like Ive said... a lot of them are for Deceptive purposes. And... a lot of things that appear to be "Flowery", are a LOT more powerful and effective, that you might ever have imagined.
One dude I was sparring... started doing these full body powered Wind-Mill hammerfists. It looked like a move From Ling Xiaoyu, of Tekken 3... except he stayed upright... and he was able to keep advancing forwards towards me, while still doing these windmills. It wasnt just the arms, either. He raised his arms high above his head, and his whole shoulders were extending... as his whole body Turned sidewards. I thought about trying to launch a toe-stabbing kick between these downwards raining Hammerfists.. but the time between each of them... was 1 second or Less. Even IF I had timed it PERFECTLY... I would not have gotten enough penetration depth to effect him... and his massive forearm, would have easily SHATTERED my leg bone. And that would have been followed up, by his next Hammerfist, smashing into my skull. The only option I had, was to evade and walk away... As I couldnt come up with a viable solution, while in combat, that quickly.
A lot of people dont realize the level of Intensity and insane training methods, that are used to make these methods effective. Tiger and Eagle Claw, for example, have extreme Finger / Grip Strength exercises... making it extremely bad, if they manage to get a Hold of you. Snake style, would toughen the fingers.. to the point where they can Penetrate deep into your flesh... without breaking their fingers... and causing massive internal damages to the OP. Iron Body conditioning, makes ones fists, and body... dense like a block of steel. Even mild interceptions with an Iron Conditioned Forearm... will make a modern trained sport-fighter, Recoil away in severe pain and damages (at highest level, causing fractures / internal damages).
Finally, arts like the Snake style, are a lot more popular and easy to understand its methods of functionality. There are also a lot more videos showing its applications, as well. Sometimes the more Obscure Chinese arts, were Obscure for good reasons. That said... every artform tends to have value within them. With an Open mind, one might discover a lot more value... than they had originally assumed.
The guy with his hands tied moved amazingly!
Thanks so much for doing all the research, amazing to see
Very interesting. I love seeing all of the different styles and how unique each one looks. I especially like seeing the animal styles and knowing there is a duck style is quite cool.
I'm Inlove with this channel
The woman with the bench and the guy with the rope both had a very Jackie Chan-esque look to their forms. Very cool!
Hadn't heard about the duck fu! Please make more 😊
Did not know about Duck Style. Though I had heard about a mandarin duck kick or something like that. About wooden stool or bench, it's a very common weapon in southern styles like Choy Lee Fut or Hung Gar. Also pretty sure Northern Shaolin (the system developed by Gu Ruzhang) has one (at least my school has it), that same style has a hands shackled form.
Chair fu would be a little helpful if you are a carpenter who majes those chairs and gets attacked by ninjas
Your content is amazing and engaging
this is cool would love more of this content
Those wooden "Benches" were the common seats, that were all over China. As such, many Chinese arts, contain training in how to use them, for combat. This was of course, in addition to the +15 other different Chinese weapons. The more in-depth the artform... the more weapons that they tended to teach and train. A lot of these guys started training in these artforms, from as young as 3yrs old. By the time they were teens, these guys were downright Brutal fighters. They trained like 8hrs every day, all year round... and they used to fight against each other, and against other artforms, regularly. Ive heard that many of the deeper arts, took anywhere from 15 to 20 years to fully learn, and fully Master... and that was with training at that pace, intensity, and number of hours per day. Of course, Im speaking about Pre-Industrial China (before the C0mmines took over, and banned all martial arts practices, for like +60 years).
Great Video! Martial Treasure, Thank you!
I remember watching an old movie that used a chicken style 😅 I love those movies genre when I was a kid. But now I like watching Xu Xiaodong 😅
I liked it a lot. I've often contemplated fighting in handcuffs.
Please do more and if theres styles with little information u could make a video listing them off and guessing what it could be theorizing
It'd be hype as hell if in an octagon somewhere one dude grabbed a stool and his opponent started flapping his arms like a bird. It'd be on.
I am in love with the history of kung fu
1:44 I believe they're performing "Wusong Tuo Kao." (th-cam.com/video/FO-L0-QDDJ8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ztURdqI4-CR6V-Nv)
The goal of this form is to learn how to generate short power, to put BOTH arms to use at the same time, and also how to use the upper body torque to add to kicks.
A left elbow is more powerful if both arms twist to the right, right arm shoots force across the back into the elbow to augment it.
This, is what I took from the form.
i'm loving this style of content, the only downside is that it reminds me that I missed out the stool seminar that my choy li fut school imparted last year, I hope I can make it the next time.
Did they record it?
@@FightCommentary nah, they're quite conservative and secretive, the whole only share the art with whom has a good heart
@@FightCommentary allthough if you are interested www.youtube.com/@choyleef this is the channel of the school of our master's master.
Great video
Love this so much
_"...if you push a duck to the limit..."_
I trained a variant of 功力拳 where one form also involved a "handcuffed" movement where you would keep your hands together as if they were bound. My master's explanation was also that it was intended for this purpose. Unfortunately, I never found any video of this particular form. Maybe it was just very regional and specific to his lineage.
Kung Fu is beautiful ❤
Post more of these kung fu history pls
With the fact that there’s 100 styles of Kung Fu, I can already see why Sanda was invented.
Sanda is a De-Balled version of Kung Fu. Its severely watered down. Its basically western Kickboxing. Compared to the MUCH more advanced Chinese combat arts... Sanda is the most Basic white-belt (beginner) level material. Sanda was created by the COMMIES (CCP / Govt.). The same commies that created Modern "Wushu", right after lifting a +60 year BAN on all combat training practices. Why did the commies create Wushu? Wushu is basically all Acrobatics, and ZERO combat training. Its basically a choreographed acrobatics dance routine. The commies may have beat their Citizens into complete Submission... but they still are extremely FEARFUL of them launching a Counter-Revolution against them. This is why they created a martial art, that has NO combat drills + no combat instructions. When that wasnt enough to satisfy their Citizens... they copied Kickboxing (Sanda and San Shou), and put their own spin on it. But make no mistake, these arts PALE in comparison to the REAL deal.
Also, while there may have been many Chinese artforms... the truth is.. that many of them use a lot of the same technology. As what worked best... won... and what won, tended to get absorbed into these various other artforms. Furthermore... the more Obscure Chinese arts... often were Obscure for good reasons. Where as the more Popular styles, like Shaolin, 5 Animal Style, Choy Li Fut, and many others... were practiced far more widely, because of their much higher reputation of effectiveness. That said, there can always be something special and valuable, in every artform. Also, there is a lot of Deceptive practices in these various artforms... which, present an opening or weakness... and if you fall for the Bait / Trick / Trap... then you get a very nasty counter.
NGL, wooden stool kungfu look cool af.
Got to admit Jerry got me with the Bartitsu clip. I started thinking (rare for me) 'That's NOT Kung Fu' , then he completed the bait and switch, DOH! As for Duck style, love the look of it but there is a lot of acting involved, just like Dog style. Although Dog style looks much more useful.
Great video!
Also fun fact: Chobi Studio uploaded a demo of Wusong's style a few days ago!
Oh cool! Could you send me a link?
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Nice, love me some 4,000 year old kung fu history.
Skateboard for self defense. It would make sense to use it like the "chair". Maybe hold it by the trucks(metal thingy where the wheels are attached) and used it to shield attacks and hit with the nose or tail, the griptape would add some damage.
But in reality all I've seen is it being used like a "baseball bat" two hand holding over one truck and wild swings.
The video made me think of Jackie Chan about the stool part, and of Xu Xiaodong near the ending, "duck styles" 🤦♂️
Yeah, all street fights with skateboards I’ve seen feature the skate kid holding the board at one end, two hands on the deck, with the truck/wheels swung at the target. Makes sense since that gets the most weight at the end of your reach. Swinging edge of the deck on would produce some naaasty cuts, but I think the mechanics of holding it that way would be less intuitive
Yes! Wang Tao(bench)Choy Lee Fut, Hung Gar, Bok Fu P’ai are the styles I studied 😳Wu Sung break the Manacles! Duck/Drake set from Pek Kwar(not over stylish) Kun Lun double ended daggers, wanderer style(Lo Man P’ai) 😬
Need to point out that Bartitsu wasn't a cane fighting style, but a syncretic style that the Englishman Edward William Barton-Wright developed from four others, namely English Boxing, Jujitsu, Savate, and La Canne. The latter being THE Western cane fighting style, developed in France because the streets of Paris had practically gotten under control of the gangs collectively known as "Les Apache" and the Parisians knew better than trust the police (that was not only inadequate to the challenge but also widely hated since the government had the audacity of disbanding the local National Guard detachment that used to do the job and replaced it with a detachment of the state police, that the Parisians considered outsiders brought in to order them around), thus they took old swordfighting techniques and adapted them to walking canes (and at the same time imported Savate from the south and adapted it to streetfighting with the addition of their local wrestling techniques, the precursor to Parkour, and of course La Canne).
Paris between 1871 and 1914 was one dangerous place...
The first 2 styles looked practical. But, the 3rd 1 looks funny & impractical.
梅山功夫 I have definitely heard of it and hope to study it
I have seen the duck style before. It was in one of jet li's young movies by the name of Shaolin vs. Wudang.
You should research Ng Ga Kuen( 五家拳）, it is a somewhat obscure kung fu style, similar to the ancestor style
That hands-shackled style reminds me of Japanese Jujutsu, when the old samurais lose their sword in battle they cross the hands like if they would still were handlind the sword (hands opened as far as i know, i'm not a jujutsu practitioner).
The duck style i've heared about many years ago but never saw it as awkward as that.
Very cool.
Smh Jerry not dropping “Wu Song fights the tiger” knowledge over the portrait of that legend. I thought that was going to be the mythical part
Wasn’t there a duck style that a famous general invented, like Yue Fei or Guan Yu?
Some cool kung fu styles here: th-cam.com/play/PLt-M8o1W_GdSL_pC-Y9qzGH6frtu-HO_f.html&si=jz_je7gG6Zr5FqYZ
thus was dope!
There's one of yuen biao's movie using the bench style
I'm forgot the title
Heard of all of these. Nice video anyway.
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I dig it
I believe the rope is to train the hands to be at a certain distance between each other.
Could be!
And I can use a pick up a chair to fight someone with but the hands down that's something else that I am interested in fighting when shackled
Tai shing Pek war / Monkey style kung fu has a hand shackled form. Associated with the Water Margin story I think.
Legend has it WU SONG killed a tiger, and that painting is the stance you see a lot in forms.
Yes please show more of hidden old school systems
the duck-style videos all look goofy to me but I can't help but notice that the funny duck walk looks like a penetration step or duck-in drill
List all kung fu styles?
蔡李佛 also has a form with a wooden stool as a weapon.
That’s awesome! I’ll take a look. You got any links?
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Bro, one of the channels there has a video with a group of people using wooden stools. Thank you my man for all the links!
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Do you know Plum Blossom Boxing, Red Fist Boxing, or New Zealand's Tiger Mantis?
imagine how frightening the last style on the list would be if the inventor studied geese instead of ducks.
The last one might be the Mandarin Duck fighting technique in Tien Shan Pai Kung Fu.
I want to say Jackie Chan used the stool fighting in Drunken Master?
As for the 鸭功夫, I’m gonna get a cleaver and say: you’re gonna be 北京烤鸭 😂
I'd say Wu Song is entirely fictional, rather than semi-mythical. There's no historical documents about him, and he only appears in fictional stories written several hundred years after he's said to have existed.
One of my favourite characters from one of my favourite novels, but definitely not a historical person. Completely made up.
Do you know if there are any other origin stories behind the shackle style besides the Wu Song story?
@@FightCommentary With Wu Song? Not that I'm aware of, other than in Water Margin where he breaks his cangue at Flying Cloud Pool and kills the guards who were bribed to kill him. The person who actually created Wusong tuo kao, just looked back to old literature and decided to attribute it to Wu Song. Lots of incidents like that throughout Chinese history. Same with Yue Fei getting attributed martial arts that very likely didn't exist during his time. Or Zhou Tong who also gets the same thing, and also gets students attached to him centuries after he lived.
Another good example would be the Zhuge Nu (or Chu-ko Nu). That weapon was around almost 600 years before Zhuge Liang was even born, yet Zhuge Liang gets attributed as the inventor of it.
Most of these martial arts attributed to people like Wu Song, or Yue Fei, or Zhou Tong, they are all invented during the 19th century (1800s). The oldest Asian martial arts that we have actual manuals for and actual historical documents, would be in the Jixiao Xinshu that Qi Jiguang created, from the 16th century. There's a couple of texts from the Han dynasty that describe some unarmed combat techniques, but they don't go into too much depth.
I need a duckbill platypus style
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Duck style kung fu (Ya quan) has 0% of dance-like qualities. What they do with their hands are hand forms from Tai Chi and yong chun, with their head and legs they are imitating the walk and head movement of a duck. Lookup that one move called "duck-in" in wrestling.
There is no 'rule' that you cant use 'anything' to defend yourself, but the MA is to defend to stop an attack.
Ok I knew all three, try again 😂 (I’m a kungfu nerd, so it will be hard!) 😂
Funny how some people mock AIKIDO as being a dance. KIUNG fu dances alot too.
isn't it obvious if Pernell Whitaker learned Duck Kung Fu, he would've been P4P #1?
Explain the reference
Hand shackled kung fu is literally chuo jiao with handcuffs. There's also a documentary that tells the story about a man that fought with handcuffs by using his legs.
Do you know the name of the documentary?
@@FightCommentary I didn't find a whole documentary about him but rather a Wushu documentary called "This is Kung Fu" on youtube which told a short story of Hand shackled Kung Fu. Now, the reason why I Said that this style is literally chuo Jiao but with handcuffs is because of the kicks and footwork with the Hand techniques.
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Im pretty sure all these guys use the iron face technique when they actually fight.
Jackie Chan used that chair kung fu in a few movies
I wonder how much overlap the bound-hand kung fu has with the sarong elements of Indonesian Silat
Tell me more! What's Sarong?
@@FightCommentary Sarong is a sash-like garment that can be worn around the waist or over the shoulder--there are empty hand techniques that have the wrists tethered to each other by the sarong for choking and locking, etc. There's a lot more mobility than the bound-hand kung fu, but both restrict hand movement in some way
That's so cool! Do you have any clips? Would love to check them out!
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🤣 Dat duck
Dude, ducks are vicious animals. A flock of ducks can protect your house better than dogs LOL
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I think Duck Kungfu is old man kungfu. Made body still fluid and fit.
I think at that age, this is the most important self defence move. At that age boxing or wrestling kinda useless or even harmfull.
Imagine 2 very oldman, one use MMA and other Duck Kungfu. MMA practicion could hurt himself and lost.
Duck running movement look like old man run but trying not to trip. Maybe that is the purpose.
There's an old video game with a skateboard fighter, moves look about like that!
What’s the game called? I’ll take a look!😊
It's called fighting vipers!
I think there is a martial art in Thailand or near countries that have a duck pose. Muay Boran!!!
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LMAO a couple people in the comments doing the usual thing of saying these wouldn't stand a chance in an mma/muay thai/whatever match, but like, one of these uses a chair as a weapon??? Are you proposing a match where one guy has to use their standard unarmed combat sport and the other gets to bash them with a stool??? XD Usually I agree tma tends to lose to combat sports but lol I'm just sitting here imagining like "yeah so you usually expect the mma fighter to have a big advantage over the kung fu fighter, BUT HERE COMES THE KUNG FU MASTER WITH THE STEEL CHAIR!"
I heard about Boar style kung fu,have you heard of it?
Never heard of it, but apparently there is a butterfly style. Looks like I got to take a look at that one!
I heard Burmese Bando has boar style
@@brokeheartwolf3733 it is hard to find about it. Letwei seems to be based on Boar and Bull styles.
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Growing up in NJ, there were guys who learned chicken kung fu and dog kung fu. No kidding! These guys would travel to NYC and Northern NJ to learn this stuff.
Yep! I just found out about Chicken Style too! If you have any clips please send me!
All these Styles of Kung Fu and Japan still dominate China in the past.
Who can forget the classic Jackie Chan v Yuen Biao in Young Master Battle of the Stools! th-cam.com/video/6uJW6UpCcyI/w-d-xo.html
Where is dog style Kung Fu?
Featured that one years ago. Might might feature it again if a lot of viewers want to see more.
Jackie Chan uses bench style !
I like Seagals Clothes line!
Yeah come on Jerry , find some really obsure boxing styles. I remember there is one from a hill tribe that fought on mountains in the fog using low stances and a rope loop. It was southern, maybe Yunnan???..then there is things like bajiquan and chinese muslim kung fu styles....or famous historical boxers that made the styles famous......its often a downhill.slide from that boxer to today for most styles so it would be good to remind people there were actually highly skilled fighters that made the styles famous.
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