First the trans-vestigators came for Keanu Reeves, and I said nothing because he didn't seem to care about it. Then they came for Margot Robbie, and I said nothing because it didn't seem like she had even noticed. Then they came for JK Rowling, and I laughed my whole ass right off 😆
@@josefinarivia it is! In retrospect it does strike me as maybe glib, even a bit disrespectful(?), which is unintended but I still hope it's taken in the right spirit
I think Keanu Reeves is the kind of guy to take it as a compliment. He literally does not care. Man he got asked how he felt about cyberpunk 2077 players modding the game so they could sleep with his character- because Silverhand looks pretty much exactly like him, and he loved the idea. He thought it was fun. Naturally things should bother him- using AI to use his voice, using his identity to do or say things he wouldn't endorse, stalking him, ect. but the man is so chill I feel like he would look at trans-vestigators and get a chuckle out of the ridiculousness.
Said the word 'transvestigators' to my girlfriend once and they just assumed I was talking about a team of trans people who hunt ghosts together. I really wish that's what it meant 😂
ohmyGOODNESS hell yea once this little 'transvestigator' trend dies down in a few years we RECLAIM the term and BUST GHOSTS!!!!!!!! (well, maybe reconcile their unfinished business, more like)
It’s WILD to me that people think ciswomen will have small hands and feet no matter how tall they are. How would our species exist if every female had disproportionately tiny feet while trying to escape from a pack of hyenas? I need my size 9’s for balance!
I STRONGLY believe people should look at photos from the 1940s- 1950s of the (cis) women that were in protests for women's rights. Half of them would be accused of being trans today because seeing too many celebrities has really spoiled us for what women are "supposed to" look like.
I am basically a hobbit. I use a large glove and my shoes are size 11 but I am only 5'1" and even at my tallest (before I broke my back…) I was only 5'4" even then!
Well they think every celebrity is trans so when you think the idea (lookswise) male and females are non passing trans people what do they think of average looking people?
As a cis woman who many mistook for a boy growing up, who has a cis man relative who many mistook for a girl growing up, I think this type of judgment people make says a lot about what their idea of masculinity and femininity is which is always incredibly reductive and unrealistic. But I also think it points out just how dangerous boredom is, many people really just need hobbies.
YES! What I think would seriously help is if we showed more photos of, say, the women that were in women's rights protests back in the 1950s. I feel like today half of them would be accused of being trans by these "transvestigators"- it feels like all people are ever shown of women is celebrities and women in full makeup.
People thought one of my brothers was a girl and I was a boy when we were little. Because of our hair length. A teacher even tried to get him to use the girls bathroom.
Quite. If a man really wanted to sneak into the Ladies, he wouldn't put on a dress and carry a handbag, he'd put on a hi-viz jacket and carry a mop and a bucket.
And even then, what cis male predator is going to wait YEARS on a clinical waitlist, go on HRT for long enough that he can pass as female, and get surgery done… just so he can go in a bathroom and creep on women? That’s so much time and money that could be saved by… just going into the bathroom and being a weirdo anyway.
@@rosiefay7283or he'd go in when it's nighttime and put up cameras. At my old work we had bathrooms and they constantly broke down no normal people give a shit about men using the womans room. And yes this was a resturant so obviously they are public bathrooms. The only person who ever complained made a joke at transphobes expense. Saying "oh I can't use that, ittle ruin my masculinity."
LMAO the part where they think Ru Paul is a woman dressing up as a man dressing up as a woman. That seems like a lot of extra steps for literally no reason
I mean it was a pretty interesting plot point in 2 diff movies ("Victor-Victoria" which also had the shock of Julie Andrews being way sexier than people had typecast her as. And a more recent example is "Connie & Carlie." A film which has obvious nods to "Some Like It Hot" with the "our ruse helps us run from the mob" yet still just as campy and fun.
Frfr, in a weird way, I feel like this could be reassuring for a lot of trans women. No you don't pass, no one even passes anymore, not one cisgender woman
I've noticed a lot with my friends that it's often just that they don't look different enough. I have a friend with a very feminine face shape and jaw line. I didn't understand why it bothered her until I saw a pre-transition photo and realized it's because her face looks almost exactly the same.
@@hiimcrazyfordrwhoIf she's worried that people(who knew her in the past) will recognize/perceive her as former self, they most certainly won't. Especially if it's been a year or more. My girlfriend grew out her hair but still wears the same things and she wasn't recognized by old friends. Her face is exactly the same as it was, just surrounded by long hair. It's okay to look the same.
Luxeria explaining that she has chest implants then realising that Jaime also has a kind of gender-affirming implant was a wonderful moment of cross-gender transness.
Although as much as I love Jaime, I thought "Some people actually *want* balls?" For the record I support gender affirming surgeries & am non-binary myself. I am glad ball implants exist for those who want them because I didn't realize there would be a big enough market.
@@thedevicebook can confirm as a biological male balls are easily the second most inconvenient thing I deal with, right after copious amounts of body hair (which is not a universal experience among men)
@@thedevicebookI had the opposite when they were explaining chest implants that some cis people get “people actually want chest implants a boob jobs” as a non binary afab
I told my cis woman cousins that their surgeries were gender affirming surgeries and they got soooo upset and so transphobic about it (after they talked about my boobs when they thought I was sleeping, and were saying I would be mistaken for trans if I didn’t get a boob job) it’s just wild how people cannot figure out how to be allies when they are actually dealing with the same threat . Our trans brothers and sisters do not deserve this bullshit
We should get them for free too then, since it fits the logic & argument about it. I want GA surgeries to fix my mummy body. What’s that? It’s just cosmetic and I had better just live with it? Yeah, thought so. Remember, women can now have a penis; so GA surgeries are no longer necessary.
@angellennie8250 I’d… rather not. That would make me a murderer, and I already have a pretty high chance of being called a criminal just for existing, so I’d rather not increase that chance to 100%
As a medical professional, I can tell you that there is no such thing as a “male spine.” Skeletal differences between males and females exist, but most people wouldn’t be able to tell. The male and female pelvis are significantly different, but there’s a bit of variation in the way that fat and muscle develop around the pelvis, so unless you’re going up and actually palpating people or your have access to their x-ray images AND you know what you’re doing, it would be impossible to know.
And even if you know youll often be wrong cause biology isnt binary and so not everyone follows those norms. Also the reason of some people's c-sections
Not to mention the “when they dig you up they’ll identify you as blah blah” argument they always use being debunked by archeologists who admit they can’t even tell most of the time without putting literal pieces of bone into a costly machine.
Right! The s--ualize newborns, toddlers, children, kids, teens, and young people then accuse queer adults of being p-dophiles and groomers like WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!!!!! 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 Much Love even in this backwards world!!!
Honestly they don't even need 'gender markers' to make accusations, I'm a cis woman, and as soon as some people learn that I don't use the name I was given at birth, they assume it's because I'm trans (the sudden swap of pronouns and feeling like they've been tricked just amuses me).
My mum got once asked if she was pregnant. She was not, she just is heavier. She decided to be nice about it and say "I suppose I will take it as a compliment you think I could be pregnant". This was meant to be referencing her age as she is too old to get pregnant. But the person she was talking to assumed this must mean she was trans and got super rude. Shes also been "clocked" as trans for having a square jaw or body hair. Some transphobes standards of gender are so weird and so specific that I swear most if not all cis people dont meet them, if they were to really dole them out equally. I am sure they found something about you they found suitably non gender conforming the moment you said you changed your name. Because you see "they can always tell".
@@zanthiablue5254The bigots' definition of gender is so binary and so extreme that it _always_ excludes a huge number of cis people. The fascists do the exact same thing with race, too: criteria so strict, nobody can realistically be "pure" enough.
Yep, I'm the opposite, I'm trans but haven't changed my name (still deciding if I want to). I've had people refuse to call me by my name and demand my "real name", because for some reason a stereotypically feminine name and they/he pronouns makes transphobes think I'm a trans woman? And *aggressively* 'misgender' me with the pronouns I said I use. Like bravo, you failed to be transphobic. Good luck finding another name that isn't a nickname.
As a child I was misgendered due to my hair being short and only ever wearing pants. Now it's "your voice is too low," "only a man would have that hair" (a purple mohawk I keep in a high pony), and "you only wear a push up bra to hide that your boobas are fake." Apparently cis women are not allowed to be naturally small chested ever. And gods forbid they actually listen to me talk for a while cause I swear like a sailor and that's apparently one of the ways you can tell someone was born male. I can't even with these people.
I've had similar comments - especially when I was a teenager - I have both small breasts and long hair, plus our school uniform was the same for everyone, so I'd get "Is that a boy or a girl?" (behind my back of course). Why does it even matter?
There is actually an answer here. They first said Elliot Page was a trans woman before he came out, and then - once he did, instead of backing down - they assumed he DETRANSITIONED. It was hysterical
@@geraintthomas4343 Transphobies: We support Detransitioners Also Transphobies: Elliot Page is a groomer 🤨 Like if they think Elliot is a detransitioner why wouldn't they support him???
The TERFs keep accidentally validating my gender. Almost every little detail they seem to say is an amab thing exists on my body and I can't help but respond with a solid "sick! I was always meant to be a man! Score!" Lmao
Ikr! I was thinking the same they're just affirming a bunch of trans masc people such as you and I 😂. Ofc they never think of us otherwise our existence would ruin their theories
Yep, and they don't even figure it out when you agree with them. Like I've had people claim "success" on helping me "breakthrough the delusion that I'm a woman"...in conversations where I've talked about having a hysterectomy. Like they are right that I'll never be a woman and that thinking I am one is a delusion, but they are completely oblivious.
@StopSin lmao, and? Not like that's going to stop my doctor prescribing me all the things I need for hormone replacement therapy. You're only wasting your own time here, when you could be doing anything else to make yourself feel happy.
as a trans man, it's weirdly affirming to see the "gender markers" they consider male bc I have all of those characteristics. it's so bizarre how obsessive these people are
SAME. I'm a trans guy as well, and my shoulders, legs, and forearms are considered "more manly" than my AMAB nonbinary boyfriend. My clothes hang off their shoulders like blankets or drapes because they aren't as broad as me! Our other boyfriend, another trans man, has "masculine" hands, according to transphobes. It's very funny.
@@catboysephiroth560 right?! I'm 6' with broad shoulders and a pretty prominent bone structure. my only feminine "gender marker" is that I have a pretty tiny waist. my girlfriend is also trans, and she has a very feminine bone structure
Fellow trans man, and same. I almost wish I could show one of those nutjobs a childhood pic of me so I could hear all the ways I looked like a cis boy pretending to be a girl
I've actually been "investigated" by transphobes. I took a picture of myself after getting a hair cut, and I posted it on my instagram with no makeup or filter. All of a sudden I got a flood of people calling me a man and just being very transphobic. I'm a cis woman, btw.
I got something like that too, except it was just some idiot on Twitter stalking me on my posts after I left a trans-positive reply on a thread about something about trans people. I am a cis man (16yo at the time) and this guy kept asking me about my genitals and shit on all of my posts I made after that (I like to draw and I've been putting my drawings on a Twitter account sometimes)
I’ve also been investigated, I posted myself on tiktok as a reaction video cause it was funny (I had on a mask and my hair covered my eyes somewhat cause of the shadow) and they were rather stupidly sayinf “Those boobs don’t make you a woman.” Like you can’t see the he/him pronouns at the top of my account on tiktok. They’re so absolutely obsessed with trans women they think anyone and everyone is a trans woman no matter what even if they have FTM in their username.
I feel like the ones accusing celebrity women of being a man is just their way of coping with the fact that attractive women in real life want nothing to do with them. It's a cover for being too cowardly to approach attractive and confident women
Yep. I was coming to find a comment like this, because the flip side of it is why they insist men like Ryan Gosling also had the elite gender flip or whatever they’re calling it this week: it gives them the excuse they need for not looking like him. In both cases, surgery is why they can’t have what they want. This gives them permission to rage about how unfair it is that they’re tempted with “unreal” images all the time.
Uhuh very obviously that transphobia is just misogyny with a new name. Theyre shunned by society for being misogynistic toward cis women so they've gone to the next vulnerable group. These people are literal psychopaths
BINGO! They never want to admit they covet or lust after these people, and get so frustrated that they can never be or be *with* them, so they lash out to make themselves feel better. The bullying tactics were never left behind in high school; the TERFs frigging peaked before graduation, if they even got to graduate. And there are plenty of people who dropped out of high school who did SO much more with themselves than the people who need hate to pretend they're "thriving."
And/or, it's a way of coping with insecurity about one's own appearance or gender presentation. You might be a complete dumptruck or look like a Barbie doll who was left on a heater, but at least *you're* the last real cis on the planet! You are LEGEND!
game show idea: two transvestigators are both shown pictures of a person. one transvestigator is told that this person claims to be a man while the other transvestigator is told they claim to be a woman. the two transvestigators must then go against each other to "prove" the person's "real gender"
@ScarletTiger109 would it technically mean that the person would be cis non-binary somehow ? Like not male nor female and not a man nor a woman ? It's aligned !!! IT'S ALIIIIIGNED !!!!!!!!
I can confirm that the "everyone in Hollywood is trans" thing isn't a post 2019 thing. I used to work with a guy, pre-plague (maybe 2018-2019? I dunno, time means nothing after 2020 haha), who FULLY believed in this stuff. I mean, he had a ton of other conspiracy theories, but me, a closeted trans dude, found it hilarious. "We can always tell", my left (non-existent for now) bollock 😂
@@Romanticoutlaw I'm not sure which was worse in that particular case, the racism or the transphobia. Maybe a mix of both. At the time, I never understood what people had against her honestly. I still don't really get it. Some people need a hobby.
I think it's just that there's been such an explosion of it, same with most conspiracy theories. Like yeah, it was definitely around, but it's gotten so much more prevalent.
@@dagmarlandI think they realised that something like a third of all the skeletons they found didn't have hip width which placed them firmly in male or female categories.
@@dagmarlandThose would be archeologists not anthropologists in most cases and starting to? They never really did. Gender hasn't been a determining factor for decades in fossil research.
People can get so judgmental about gender norms. I am a Cis woman, as a child I tried to cut a ponytail out of my hair and cut it to the nape in a chunk at the back. I had to get a pixie cut. At the time my Cis man brother was a little baby. My mom let his hair grow so he had bright orange ringlets. Everyone would think I was a little boy in public. If I wore a dress, which I rarely did because I'm more of a tomboy, people would get mad at my mom for "dressing a boy in a dress." I started introducing myself like, "I'm Kat. I'm a girl." -- If I as a cis gender person went through that, I can't even begin to image how bad those same people are to those who are trans, non-binary, or gender fluid that express themselves in non-conforming fashions.
7:52 As someone who lives in rural Christian conservative Texas, I feel like I'm qualified to answer this question. Transphobes don't like to be called transphobic for one reason and one reason only: it has bad connatations (as it should). Saying "I believe in the Christian values of family and mothers and fathers and treating little girls like little girls and little boys like little boys and I don't think predatory men should be allowed in the bathroom with my daughter" seems (to them) more passionate and moral and "protective of children" rather than hateful and bigoted. Saying "I'm transphobic" would be like openly admitting that they hate trans people (which most do, but they like to hide behind the "we love everyone but just don't support the gays" attitude for the same reason of not wanting to sound like a loon). They realize they sound crazy when they say these things, but because they think we're the crazy ones, they try to distance themselves as much as possible from "the bad ones" who share the exact same opinions as them but are a little prouder. One will say "I'm homophobic and gays are all going to hell---and they should go to hell because they deserve it!" and the other, who interrupts with "we don't hate them; we just don't support their choices" while agreeing wholeheartedly, is thinking less about letting everyone know their opinions and more about gaining a following. They want you to change your opinion to agree with them, and they think that (rather than saying "I hate the gays, they're gross and God hates them" right away) pretending to be a concerned parent or a feminist who wants to protect women will give them a greater chance of swaying your view. The idea is that once you agree with them, then you'll be brought over to the "good side" and suddenly realize everything else bigoted that they didn't yet say is also true. Or that they'll be able to change your opinions little by little over time rather than shocking you all at once.
But, you know, it's the TRANS people who are indoctrinating people and trying to "convert" them. Clearly. You're absolutely right, they *know* it looks bad to be openly homophobic/transphobic. That's why they love the alt-right, because they're making it "okay" to be openly hateful again. Until then, they're still playing the marketing game. "If we can frame it as 'protecting kids/women', we can attack them for 'endangering kids/women' if they argue against it. (No matter how valid those arguments are. We don't have to be right, we just have to be louder.) We can get people to do our bidding, even if they don't fully agree with our beliefs. We can get them to vote on legislation we like by threatening to destroy their public image if they don't."
Perfectly articulated! What's wild to me is that I'm pretty sure some bigots aren't even doing that thought process consciously. Like it's an instinct more than an active strategy. Some part of them understands that the way they think is socially and morally unacceptable, but that's not what they were taught to believe, so their mind makes excuses and tempers their speech. Like they sink into themselves just enough to slide by the decency radar. It's like when you yell at a kid for calling someone a swear word. Sometimes the kid will just swear under their breath at you from then on.
Tbh the people who think banning trans people from bathrooms would stop predators are ridiculous. If making something illegal would stop people, we wouldn't have criminals. Leave us alone. Yall just transphobic and dumb. I love your videos Jamie. Always a good giggle here. I'm a proud spud. And I hope all my fellow spuddies (spud buddies) are having a wonderful day! 😊❤
What always cracks me up is the logistics that would be involved in such a ban. Like.... Are you going to put bouncers in front of bathrooms? Do i have to show my ID when i want to pee? How will that worl in a Club, where the ladies queue is already ridiculously long? That poor imaginary bouncer wont know what hit tjem 😂
Imagine being able to identify as anything you want and everybody is just expected to play along 100% and not ask questions.... Women do not want to use the bathroom with men... Even if the men call themselves women, they still don't want to. And I understand it... Men who "identify as women" do not want to pee with men either... but are somehow baffled that women feel the same way....... You can paint stripes on a horse but it is still a horse.
This is actually a fantastic way to show how transphobia will *always* circle back around to being misogyny. According to these """"investigators"""", I think I would be the perfect enby 😂🤣😂🤣
Now I've actually thought up a plot for this movie though. Here it is: *dramatic voice over while video plays on screen* Over the past century, technology has advanced incredibly. But one app has dominated all, one that everyone uses, because it is the only way to connect with the world. X, origins unknown, has developed to rule society. On X, you can meet everyone, talk, date, or anything you could possibly wish to do, without leaving the comfort of your home. X took over everything, every app, so all content creators moved to X. *cut to shots of Jammidodger, Luxeria, Shaaba, One Topic and Roly talking in their separate rooms* One day, 5 creators realised something... They had not been off X for a month. So they set off on a journey, to stop X before real life became unnecessary and was abandoned in favour of X. *show their journey and them facing social media monsters like TERFS (the big boss was JK Rowling, they defeated her with reason and logical arguments), trolls, homophobes, and more...* And then at least they reached the headquarters, where Elon Musk was... But then they realised... That he was a robot, mind-controlled and addicted to X just like everyone else. So who was behind the mask of Elon Musk? *The Click laughs in evil Swedish from behind them* *they gasp because the Click has an army of Emotional Support Demons and landsharks* *OT betrays them, because he and Click are lovers* *epic battle ensues with dramatic music* The End...
sometimes i call it xitter (pronounced shitter) but i do wish media companies would refuse to call it X. there is zero reason we should all have to be party to this deeply disturbed man's weird obsession with owning a company named x (he tried to do the same thing with paypal 25 years ago and got booted off the board for it).
I remember in the 1980's when I was a teen, people were transvestagating Annie Lennox. Her mother had to come out and conferm she was a girl from birth. This is not as new as it seems.
Difficult not to revere Annie's androgyny, though. I used to mistake her for a man, but was corrected. Still found her quite stunning, and as someone who uses demifemme in place of demigirl, Annie's androgyny was incredible and had me wishing I could've also been androgynous. (The "girl" suffix makes less sense than femme, for the days I'm feeling more feminine, y'know?)
Its predatory by nature. Why do you think theyre trying so desperately to make everyone believe we're predators? They're trying to accuse someone else so ppl don't figure out they're the predators
As a trans person i only ever think abiut genitals when transphobes bring it up. Just doesnt seem appropriate to think about the private areas of strangers
She certainly isn’t a woman by her own standards since Joanne thinks menstruating is central to the experience and at 58 it’s almost certain that’s not something she can do anymore. She also thinks gender is a binary so having excluded herself from the female categorization with her own narrow definition, male is all that’s left.
Are you being deliberately obtuse? I don’t care enough to get involved with the discussion but I’m fairly certain she means someone who naturally produces them barring medical complications or age. this isn’t the gotcha you think it is
Yeah, no. You are clearly missing her point on purpose. I’m a medical practitioner….biological sex is an actual fact. Male and female, and the very small percentage of babies born with ambiguous external genitalia or a mixture of male and female sex characteristics. But still…. Male or female. Not “none of the above”. This is not a transphobic statement, this is simply a biological fact. Folks need to learn to critically think and qualify their statements. Calling everyone who disagrees with you a transphobe is cheap and ignorant.
Terf ideology is self harm. It’s a dangerous thing and if they get what they’re asking for (which is the rights of trans women), then it gives their allies (misogynistic men who’d said that they’d be happy to protect “real women” 🙄 which is a stupid statement in itself) the green light to start taking away the rights of cis women… including women like JKR and Posey Parker, or whatever her name is.
They're literally picking actors who have been in the public eye since they were children. When do they think they had time to transition with no one noticing!?
I think that they just don't understand that being thin can result in a much sharper looking jaw line. It's so funny how they can ignore every single "gender marker" except the one single one that they think looks masculine or feminine.
You bought an LGBT+ flag, giving money to people who likely support LGBT+ rights, and have now increased engagement on an LGBT+ friendly video, helping it be promoted to more people. Well done. @StopSin
Absolutely, that is what I was thinking about all of the critiques on the women with sharp or prominent jaws. Pretty much all of those women are quite thin! The reality is that fat stored in the face is going to make it appear much softer, but when you've got hardly any fat at all, the face is going to be pretty defined.
"transvestigating" looked different in the 90's. But yes, it happened to me a lot in my 20s. Once, a teenage boy (a stranger) said to me, "You're a woman, right?" I replied, "last time I checked..." He said "Thanks, you just won me $5." He waved to his friends, who had apparently placed bets. That was annoying, but not as bad as getting kicked out of public restrooms. (I'm a cis female, BTW)
A lot of butch lesbians wouldn't be "real women" according to these bigots. Which is actually the point. They're going after trans people as a way to get at gays and lesbians, _especially_ those who can't pass.
I have a family member who does this with people and as a cis woman with facial hair due to having wonky hormones I like to remind him that I’m a woman with a moustache and he knows I’m afab because he literally was standing outside the hospital room when I was born and heard the doctor say “it’s a girl”.
This reminds me of how when i used a gender swap filter on my transphobic stepfather it looked like JK Rowling Edit: by Dionysus i swear if this comment gets bigger than the one about the brass vs woodwind conflict then i will, uh, probably get excited? Or something?
26:30 - Luxeria might find this interesting: sometimes women end up with receding hairlines due to tight pony tails. If they’re constantly wearing tight pony tails, they lose hair at the front where it’s constantly being pulled back and I believe those follicles just die from the stress so that is a perfect example of why a female would have a receding hairline! I remember seeing a plastic surgery show where someone needed a hair transplant due to this problem
Yep. It's traction something or other (might be traction baldness but I can't recall), and can be brought on by tight pony tails as you mentioned, or tight braids, or any other tight hair style which puts a lot of tension on the roots
Your comment made me think of a video about medieval beauty standards that mentioned women having high foreheads(turned out looking similar to receding hairlines) used to be the epitome of feminine beauty.
As a tall cis woman with strong features, I have been transvestigated a few times unfortunately... I swear, these people are obsessed. I encountered 3 types of transvestigators: cishet men who are afraid to be gay, unhinged women and teenagers who harass people for no reason whatsoever. My favorite incident happened when I was sitting on a bench, scrolling through social media on my phone. It's important to the story to note that I was sitting with my legs apart, forearms resting on my thighs. (apparently that's a manly position) I kid you not, out of nowhere, this woman comes up to me and screams at me "You'll never be a real woman! You sit just like a male". I asked her what her deal was and I think at that point she understood that I was a cis woman, because she looked embarrassed and swiftly walked away without apologizing. Honorable mention to the cishet guy who went up to me and asked if being attracted to me makes him gay.
@@swellactually I probably should have, haha. I just burst out laughing and told him if he needed to ask that question, he’s at least a little gay. He was a good sport about it, thankfully. 😂
The Transformers poisoned the entire well, not them. God told them to never do cross dressing for a reason. But they've instead made it an entire culture, pissing him off. And because he is truth, he exposes it and allows the outbreak to bring more to repent, for more to be saved.
Hey, least the guy had balls xD But yeah, my friend gets mistaken for a guy a lot too, it's silly that people are so certain that AFAB can't be born masculine.
You really have a good point with "they've looked at these women, thought they're ugly and decided they are men". I wish women were just allowed to be ugly lol and not be denied of their femininity for it. There's literally nothing wrong with being an ugly woman but women get treated like it's a personal failing or a character flaw. Wish we would stop putting so much importance on appearance
It's definitely a misogynistic thing, because it's not like men get persecuted for being ugly and then it's thought they are not masculine. Even feminine men who are pretty, they won't deny he is pretty, but they'll say he's disgusting or not a man because he isn't masculine.. but they won't say he's ugly.
It’s you women that are pushing all this trans nonsense. If trans wasn’t a thing ugly would still be a thing but there are so many trans now that ugly gets questioned.
If i combine my height and the shape of my nose with all the alpha male talk about what women are "naturally" like because InStInCt.... Huh, guess i need to come out to my Partner again. Honey, i forgot to mention, im a dude! 🎉
That's actually tied to old-fashioned racism. Black women are often seen as too masculine to those who think white European beauty standards are superior. Hierarchical sexists also prefer women to appear frail and meek. Michelle is strong in both body and personality. Bigots know she's cis, but they relish using this insult for the reasons I described.
I like the way that combines with the theory that Obama is secretly gay. So like is Michelle Obama a man in drag as his gay husband, is she his transfeminine beard, or is Obama a transphobic gay who doesn’t recognize her gender and Michelle deserves better?? There’s so many ways you can take this.
I was looking into breast reduction/removal (genderqueer trans masc) and the private clinic I found only marketed the procedure at cis women. And funnily enough if I pretend to only want the surgery because I have big boobs and correlating health issues like sweat eczema and pain from the weight and stuff, having my insurance pay for it would be so much easier than trying to get approved for gender affirming care... For the same exact procedure. Also I'm not sure if it feels different with chest implants but I can confirm that laying on your chest if you have breasts, especially big ones, is wildly uncomfortable
BRUH if they think Satan makes you trans in exchange for fame and fortune I'ma have a serious talk with him tonight in our 3am meeting. Bc why the hecc am I (and countless others) BROKE AND TRANS AT THE SAME TIME??????
@@discordiacreates6669 hmm, I guess I have to, since Satan n his demons are as lazy as one can get. I have to study witchcraft, I have to read the book, I have to make the symbols n do the rituals and summon him 🙄 but he's nice so I forgive him.
Jammie exitedly announcing his silicon balls and the Lux also being so happy for him, was just so funny to me. Just something so wholesome and yet so comedic.
I think part of why these people care so much about celebrities being “secretly trans” is because it threatens their own sexuality. If Marilyn Monroe was actually a man and other men find “him” attractive, that would mean they’re gay 🙄 or something…. Trying to rationalize how these people think makes my brain hurt
I'm reminded of the time my Grade 6 class got a skeleton for the classroom. The box said it was a male skeleton, but so many kids insisted it couldn't be, because there was no penis bone.
@@swellactually Thank you for appreciating my specific humour. I've been watching a live play where a character uses a raccoon baculum as a cane so it was on my mind.
As a trans 13 year old I struggle with finding others like me it's so wonderful to see strong trans adults being such lights in the world! Love you guys❤🌈
You're too young to know who you are, puberty and teenage years, even into early 20's is a horrible time. It's fine to explore your identity and be playful but please don't rush into medicalisation. You have plenty of time to discover yourself and if you do think that's the route for you there's plenty of time for all that when you're an adult.
@@MiniT-x8q Ugh, we gonna gatekeep knowledge of self beyond the 20s too now? There’s no pleasing you people. Leave the kid alone, and the talk about hormonal treatment to their doc.
My cis brother totally had no way to know he was a man before the magical age of 18. Seriously, what is with this "oh you can't know your gender if your trans before adulthood but you can totally know it if your cis" bullshit? Nobody's telling cis kids they've been convinced by the illuminati that they're cis. I know I realized I should have a masculine body as soon as boobs started growing. You're not alone even if the world sometimes makes you feel that way. I see you, I know your pain, you're valid! Take care! ❤ 🏳️🌈
At any moment they could take a step back and realise men and women aren't that different, but no! Insane! It's also super agist, of course your face won't be as soft when aging. They dangerously flirt with the idea that the standard for women is to look underage.
It's also irritating because due to insane western beauty standards, most celebrities are very thin. Of course these women are going to have defined jaw lines; if they want to keep getting roles they aren't allowed to have enough fat to soften them.
I work as an editor for mpreg stories, and one of the conversations my friend and I have a fair bit is how trans men fit into the conversation. Because the characters are men who can become pregnant, so why would these stories not include trans men as well? There is a bothersome amount of people who love mpreg stories, but they do not want trans men included in the genre. And it's like .... if you're into the concept of men being able to be pregnant, then what is your problem with men who can actually get pregnant? I just wish they'd admit to their transphobia already and not try to justify their a-holery.
It might be too real because a lot mpreg is kinda fantasy for them? , but then there is no reason it shouldnt be in the story like it could bring variety and interesting conversations in the story and divesity, why shouldnt it be there. There is no reason not to. Like a story of a transman that can get pregnant and a magical mpreg, could be really interesting. Genuinly.
That's what always made me uncomfortable with people who are, like, REALLY into mpreg but don't seem to give a shit about trans men irl. Like you're gonna tell me you made your love of men getting pregnant into a personality trait, but won't stand up for or even acknowledge the existence of men who can get pregnant irl? It feels weirdly fetishizing, even though they seem to want to cut out trans men from the equation entirely. Like they want to get off to the idea of a pregnant man but with none of the "baggage" that comes with the dreaded trans label. (I say this as a transmasc myself, and I'm not saying I don't think people should have their fantasies, but it just always felt kinda... gross, the way some people go about it.)
Most transgender people do not want to have their transness portrayed as a fetish. It's probably better to refrain from including them in sexual narratives like this.
These stupid "transvesitgators" make me feel bad about the way I look because I am a cis woman but I have a sharp jawline and I cant change the way I look!! It doesn't mean I'm a man!! I hate the way I look, so that just hurts
No worry they are just scientifically illiterate, your body is perfect the way it is. Masculine based on binary references? Maybe, but nothing in science is binary. And its not like we never found a penis, or one oe two y chromosomes on a very feminine woman. Life is special, people are too and its awesome
I feel you, I honestly do. I'm cis, 6'2", flat chested and not terribly blessed in the facial department. I've had the T slur hurled at me many times, even been grabbed by the crotch to "confirm" people's suspicions about me. It's a hard lesson to truly grasp, but these people are the problem, not us, and we do NOT deserve to feel bad about ourselves for any of this shit. Besides, so what if I was trans? Fuck 'em : )
Aw, girl. I'm sure you look a lot better than you think. And other women contour the heck out of their jawlines to define them, so I hope you can learn to accept and maybe even love it. But this is a prime example of these haters not only being hurtful to trans people but to everybody else too. Including some of the gorgeous women featured in this video.
I'm really sorry to hear that! I know that it probably doesn't help to hear this from a random internet stranger, but a lot of modelling agencies specifically look for women with sharp jawlines. Olivia Wilde has a big, sharp jawline and she's just ethereally gorgeous. A lot of instagram models actively contour their jawlines to make them look sharper. Women with sharp, even square, jawlines can absolutely be feminine-looking and beautiful. It doesn't make you less of a woman.
As someone who will never be able to medically transition because of health risks these 'transvestigation' arguments always give me a weird feeling of euphoria. Yes, I do have broad shoulders, a straight clavicle, a jaw, thank you for noticing :3
20:15 - by that woman’s judgements on what makes a man and a woman, she’s a man herself by the size of the nose. If you’re gonna make the tea, you need to drink it, sis!
10:06 not necessarily. trans men have also been victims of hate crimes when using gendered restrooms, they just aren't talked about as much because the wider movement doesn't care about them.
Yeah, its relatively common actually, especially in schools. Ive heard plenty of stories of trans boys getting harassed in bathrooms, like i remember a story a few years back when the whole ass principal was banging on the door of a trans boy using the toilet and demanding he shows his genitals! And a lot of trans men fear using the public restroom in America because of how short the doors are there
as a nonbinary person i always find the gender marker bs so fun bc I've got a great mix of both the "male" and "female" "markers" and while they're absolutely ridiculous I enjoy sitting almost perfectly in the middle. it's affirming in the weirdest most bullshit way lmao
Most people have some of each, just generally more in one direction or the other. They should really be referred to as “sexual characteristics” though since gender isn’t really physical
I just want to say once more that I'm so grateful for trans creators on youtube. I was raised to be pretty homo- and trans-phobic so just seeing the reality and getting educated on trans issues has been really helpful for me in overcoming that and now I'm an ally.
i want to ask a transvestigator to show an example of a woman theyre sure is a woman lmaooo cuz it seems to me that they think every woman is secretly a man. or id also like to do the same "transverstigator" comment under a transvestigator's video and see what they say abt it lmao
If you do that, I'd love to know how it goes because there definitely seems to be a disproportionate number of woman being targeted compared to men in these posts... Seems pretty gay to me ngl, most of those woman are hot imo so maybe these two are onto something
Women are always the targets. There’s male celebs who have said and done much worse than JKR & they don’t get hate at all. Wouldn’t be surprised if it were men behind this all. They love to demean women & criticise everything about them, especially if the woman isn’t acting in a “dainty feminine manner”.
When my grandmother was in the earlier stages of dementia, every time we went out to eat with her she would point someone out and loudly proclaim “that woman looks like a man” and we’d redirect her attention and if the woman was close enough to have heard I’d make sort of apologetic (and also tall and strong featured) eye contact. It’s quite tragic how many people online are suffering from dementia.
It’s insane to think that from these people’s perspective, they might even circle back around to supporting Elliot page for ‘returning’ to his original gender ????? Like logically following their (illogical) mentality, that would make perfect sense 🫠
my favorite moment was when a major transvestigator got accused of being trans by other transvestigators. Like yeah when you use a bunch of "markers" that have exactly 0 bearing on biological sex or any grounding in science whatsoever, the goal post can migrate wherever the hell you want. It's all meaningless. Like when does it end? Also I love how their first thought after seeing 50 women with strong jawlines is "they must all be men" and not "hm perhaps women can have jawlines" which is by far the more parsimonious idea (parsimony is king in science, which they would know if they actually knew anything about real science and not the delusion they've baked from the empty cavity in their skull overheating.)
Arrogance over the state of corruption and madness caused by the unveilings of darkness. You are a fool grasping for air every time you praise Satan with that mouth.
This was a photo of her MOTHER. The person on a photo was JK Rowling's MOM. This idiot (Rowling) needs to see for herself what kind of people she decided to associate herself with. They literally took the photo of her mother and said "this is a man". Those TERFs have no morals whatsoever. (Not that I thought otherwise). I am a former HP ficwriter so I know Rowling's story quite well and I recognized the photo immediately.
@@chuckey191 How is there honor in denying science, spreading misinformation and lies and directly contributing to violence against innocent people? Toddlers get this concept, I cannot understand why some adults struggle to do the same.
Yes. This is beautiful, and now I desperately want it to happen. I even thought of a vague idea of a plot. So Ken (Ryan Gosling) has to travel to the real world to tell Barbie (Margot Robbie) that there's an emergency in Barbieland. They travel to Barbieland, as Ken explains that all the Barbies and Kens have swapped bodies. They get there, and suddenly (due to a curse on Barbieland) they swap bodies. (Their body swap is just their voices dubbed on the other actor's body) All the Barbies experience gender dysphoria, and so do the Kens, so they all dress up like the other gender (so Margot Robbie dresses up like Ken, and Ryan Gosling like Barbie.) They realise they need to find someone unaffected by the gender swap to break the curse, so they go back to the real world and after a few shenanigans, find lots of trans people (who haven't medically transitioned) at a Pride parade. They bring them all back to Barbieland, and of course they switch but they're happy about it, and so the curse breaks because it can't withstand happy people. (We then have a few puns about gay meaning happy.) The Barbies thank the trans people, who have stayed in the bodies they wanted to be in, and everyone learns a valuable lesson about gender dysphoria.
I have been completely enamored with this subject since I first heard about it years ago. A group of lunatics totally convinced that all celebrities are secretly trans. It's the ultimate collapse into insanity. What does being trans have to do with somebody's fame? What purpose does it serve for this secret cabal? And the fact that they truly see trans people as inherently evil is very disturbing. Still, so interesting to think about how these people exist.
The clavicle thing is so ridiculous because in my part of the world, the latest beauty standard for women is the straight clavicle. So women are coveting having a straight clavicle because it's considered as the new beauty trend for women
Hi 👋 cis woman here: straight clavicle, no waist definition, 5'10" and same hand and shoe size as my husband.... also I have raised testosterone because PCOS. Have fun with that transvestigators 😂
31:24 According to my chemical-engineer husband, and "aromatic compound" is a molecule containing a carbon ring with conjugated double-bonds. Testosterone contains no aromatic carbon rings. Estrogen does contain one aromatic carbon ring. so yes, Luxeria, you have it right: testosterone is "aromatized", i.e. one of its carbon rings has its bonds converted into one with conjugated double-bonds. [What it means to have "conjugated double bonds" vs. "regular" double-bonds involves some quantum mechanics that I'm going to leave out, because quantum mechanics gives even us physicists a headache!]
Love your energy and banter! And not being trans myself, I've never been transvestigated but I was "investigated" in a way. Only discovering I was demisexual at the bright age of 42, explained a lot. For example, my cousins were furious with me when on my 18th birthday they took me to a brothel and instead of losing my virginity to a lady of the night, I had a lovely conversation with her. They could not comprehend that although I found her beautiful, I had no sexual attraction towards her. I was then labelled as gay and most of that part of the family still believes that, including my late father. I no longer engage with that part of my family. I rather be alone than surrounded by well meaning narrow minded religious hypocrites.
@@dagmarland You're probably right. Calling them well-meaning is a stretch. What I meant is that they believe they're doing the right thing... even if in the back of their minds, a little voice tells them they're wrong! :)
@@Zombii_x Tons of normal human things have labels, my friend. I’m always confused as to why your ilk think those are opposite. "Hey look I’m blonde" "Noooo you can’t say that your hair is just a shade of yellow it’s a normal thing don’t label yourself" This is how you sound btw
Lmfao at Luxeria’s dad meeting Roly. He a little confused but he got the spirit! 😂 Also, damn, Biscuit really is just absolutely enthralled with Jamie!
@StopSin you have commented this on multiple other comments, I think you need a new hobby tbh and need to learn to stop hatred. I'd rather be a sinner than whatever it is you are doing
@@emmad4308 if they're spamming the same comment, it's probably just a bot Edit: bot behavior but the channel is actually disgusting and has a discord pinned under its own videos. I recommend reporting the hateful behavior
@angellennie8250 I don't hate entire groups of people for things out of their control, but I do hate how religion is often used to justify bigotry. Like ofc I hate some things I'm only human I don't understand the point of your comment
I think Jamie Lee Curtis looks amazing for her age but she's was a target for transvestigators before they really got big. I lived with a cis woman who got misgendered a fair bit because she was tall, slim and dressed in jeans and leather with no make up - doesn't take much.
I can’t believe we foiled the investigation! Hormones for all!
Plot twist: melatonin
@@gone_mad-tryagainlater everyone's always sleeping on melatonin
@@Lord-Griffalready am Stephen! Thanks! You’ll never be a real man ✨
Hormones for all, the world rejooooice 🎶
@@KrimsonKattYTwhile I don’t disagree exactly, she was clearly making a joke, and also, everyone has hormones in their body already.
it's so funny when they accuse eachother of being trans, it's like among us but with bigots
This brightened my day. Thank you for the laugh!
Lol that's great
Ahahaha, I love this
Lmao
"JK Rowling is sus"
First the trans-vestigators came for Keanu Reeves, and I said nothing because he didn't seem to care about it. Then they came for Margot Robbie, and I said nothing because it didn't seem like she had even noticed. Then they came for JK Rowling, and I laughed my whole ass right off 😆
Love it!
This reads like Martin Niemöller's peom "First they came..." was that on purpose? if that's the case, nicely done hahah.
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@@josefinarivia it is! In retrospect it does strike me as maybe glib, even a bit disrespectful(?), which is unintended but I still hope it's taken in the right spirit
I think Keanu Reeves is the kind of guy to take it as a compliment. He literally does not care. Man he got asked how he felt about cyberpunk 2077 players modding the game so they could sleep with his character- because Silverhand looks pretty much exactly like him, and he loved the idea. He thought it was fun. Naturally things should bother him- using AI to use his voice, using his identity to do or say things he wouldn't endorse, stalking him, ect. but the man is so chill I feel like he would look at trans-vestigators and get a chuckle out of the ridiculousness.
Said the word 'transvestigators' to my girlfriend once and they just assumed I was talking about a team of trans people who hunt ghosts together. I really wish that's what it meant 😂
That would be so cool
we need to assemble a trans supernatural investigators group. We need to.
That would be a great show for the Discovery Channel. 😊
ohmyGOODNESS hell yea once this little 'transvestigator' trend dies down in a few years we RECLAIM the term and BUST GHOSTS!!!!!!!! (well, maybe reconcile their unfinished business, more like)
@@PhantomGato-v- I'm joining!
It’s WILD to me that people think ciswomen will have small hands and feet no matter how tall they are. How would our species exist if every female had disproportionately tiny feet while trying to escape from a pack of hyenas? I need my size 9’s for balance!
Honestly hilarious cause I'm tall and have small hands and feet rather disproportionately lol
I'm a 5'4" cis dude but I guess I'm just not a man anymore.
I STRONGLY believe people should look at photos from the 1940s- 1950s of the (cis) women that were in protests for women's rights.
Half of them would be accused of being trans today because seeing too many celebrities has really spoiled us for what women are "supposed to" look like.
I am basically a hobbit. I use a large glove and my shoes are size 11 but I am only 5'1" and even at my tallest (before I broke my back…) I was only 5'4" even then!
Fork bro size 9 is considered big still? No hope for my size 10.5-11 😭
Is anyone surprised they’re turning on each other though? Hatred breeds hatred
Well they think every celebrity is trans so when you think the idea (lookswise) male and females are non passing trans people what do they think of average looking people?
Let them.
I’m not usually like this but for them I’m handing out the popcorn 🍿
@@krissyskullscould I join? I brought tacos! 🌮🌮🌮
I do find it painfully funny.
"oh no! The face eating leopard is eating my face!"
If JK Rowling was actually a self-loathing Trans Woman this whole time then this would have been the biggest movie plot twist of all time.
I'm not sure I would believe that if it came out. But maybe!
I mean blaire white exists, so it's not impossible (just hilariously unlikely)
Most of the world stage in inverted..you're not wrong
You should pitch the idea to M. Night Shyamalan, lol.
As a cis woman who many mistook for a boy growing up, who has a cis man relative who many mistook for a girl growing up, I think this type of judgment people make says a lot about what their idea of masculinity and femininity is which is always incredibly reductive and unrealistic. But I also think it points out just how dangerous boredom is, many people really just need hobbies.
YES! What I think would seriously help is if we showed more photos of, say, the women that were in women's rights protests back in the 1950s. I feel like today half of them would be accused of being trans by these "transvestigators"- it feels like all people are ever shown of women is celebrities and women in full makeup.
YES & YES
@@justseffstuff3308 💯
People thought one of my brothers was a girl and I was a boy when we were little. Because of our hair length. A teacher even tried to get him to use the girls bathroom.
it just goes to show that people fear us so much to the point we take up so much space in their minds lmao
I dont get the transphobic point of trans people being predators and going in the toilets because couldn't a predator just go in the bathrooms anyways
Obviously they can and they know it, its not about safety, they just like hating cause it makes them a part of the majority
yeah, it's kind of silly to think that a predator would be stopped by gendered bathroom rules
Quite. If a man really wanted to sneak into the Ladies, he wouldn't put on a dress and carry a handbag, he'd put on a hi-viz jacket and carry a mop and a bucket.
And even then, what cis male predator is going to wait YEARS on a clinical waitlist, go on HRT for long enough that he can pass as female, and get surgery done… just so he can go in a bathroom and creep on women? That’s so much time and money that could be saved by… just going into the bathroom and being a weirdo anyway.
@@rosiefay7283or he'd go in when it's nighttime and put up cameras.
At my old work we had bathrooms and they constantly broke down no normal people give a shit about men using the womans room.
And yes this was a resturant so obviously they are public bathrooms. The only person who ever complained made a joke at transphobes expense. Saying "oh I can't use that, ittle ruin my masculinity."
LMAO the part where they think Ru Paul is a woman dressing up as a man dressing up as a woman. That seems like a lot of extra steps for literally no reason
Ellen DEGENERATE is another example, it doesn't seem so far-fetched.
I mean it was a pretty interesting plot point in 2 diff movies ("Victor-Victoria" which also had the shock of Julie Andrews being way sexier than people had typecast her as. And a more recent example is "Connie & Carlie." A film which has obvious nods to "Some Like It Hot" with the "our ruse helps us run from the mob" yet still just as campy and fun.
I love that Jamie is like light academia, and all of his friends are like alternative and punk. Truly the pinnacle of opposite relationships
@@KrimsonKattYT LexiKitty is also Chaotic Neutral
i love this
Luxeria can also wax quite academic.
Yanfei spotted
@@morganahowll1940 Yesss, fellow Yanfei lover 👍
My girlfriend is always concerned she’s not “passing” enough. Like girl, neither is Marilyn Monroe or Margot Robbie. You’re fine.
really puts it into perspective huh 😭 if they’re not feminine enough then no one’s “passing” 🤚🏾 not even the cis women
Frfr, in a weird way, I feel like this could be reassuring for a lot of trans women. No you don't pass, no one even passes anymore, not one cisgender woman
I've noticed a lot with my friends that it's often just that they don't look different enough.
I have a friend with a very feminine face shape and jaw line. I didn't understand why it bothered her until I saw a pre-transition photo and realized it's because her face looks almost exactly the same.
It’s almost as if sexual dimorphism In humans is a bit more complicated than people think it is
@@hiimcrazyfordrwhoIf she's worried that people(who knew her in the past) will recognize/perceive her as former self, they most certainly won't. Especially if it's been a year or more.
My girlfriend grew out her hair but still wears the same things and she wasn't recognized by old friends. Her face is exactly the same as it was, just surrounded by long hair.
It's okay to look the same.
Luxeria explaining that she has chest implants then realising that Jaime also has a kind of gender-affirming implant was a wonderful moment of cross-gender transness.
Although as much as I love Jaime, I thought "Some people actually *want* balls?" For the record I support gender affirming surgeries & am non-binary myself. I am glad ball implants exist for those who want them because I didn't realize there would be a big enough market.
@@thedevicebooksome people even want them on their truck
@@thedevicebook can confirm as a biological male balls are easily the second most inconvenient thing I deal with, right after copious amounts of body hair (which is not a universal experience among men)
@@thedevicebookI had the opposite when they were explaining chest implants that some cis people get “people actually want chest implants a boob jobs” as a non binary afab
@@thedevicebookCastrated dogs owners have had that choice for years I read.
I told my cis woman cousins that their surgeries were gender affirming surgeries and they got soooo upset and so transphobic about it (after they talked about my boobs when they thought I was sleeping, and were saying I would be mistaken for trans if I didn’t get a boob job) it’s just wild how people cannot figure out how to be allies when they are actually dealing with the same threat . Our trans brothers and sisters do not deserve this bullshit
We should get them for free too then, since it fits the logic & argument about it.
I want GA surgeries to fix my mummy body. What’s that? It’s just cosmetic and I had better just live with it? Yeah, thought so.
Remember, women can now have a penis; so GA surgeries are no longer necessary.
@@Zombii_x So you believe that gender affirming care should be available for free for everyone? I fully agree with this sentiment.
@StopSin you are boring
@angellennie8250 Of course not, because if he’s a man, he physically can’t be someone’s sister
@angellennie8250 I’d… rather not. That would make me a murderer, and I already have a pretty high chance of being called a criminal just for existing, so I’d rather not increase that chance to 100%
As a medical professional, I can tell you that there is no such thing as a “male spine.”
Skeletal differences between males and females exist, but most people wouldn’t be able to tell. The male and female pelvis are significantly different, but there’s a bit of variation in the way that fat and muscle develop around the pelvis, so unless you’re going up and actually palpating people or your have access to their x-ray images AND you know what you’re doing, it would be impossible to know.
And even if you know youll often be wrong cause biology isnt binary and so not everyone follows those norms. Also the reason of some people's c-sections
Not to mention the “when they dig you up they’ll identify you as blah blah” argument they always use being debunked by archeologists who admit they can’t even tell most of the time without putting literal pieces of bone into a costly machine.
Well, actually, male spines exist AND have straight clavicles _AND_ balls
@@fujoshipeanut5074 lets all ignore science and listen to fujoshi right here.
They know this, they just don't care like flat earthers.
Transphobes when they have a baby girl who doesn't pop out with boobies and an hour glass body: 😡😡😡
Thank you for putting the awful image of a newborn with cartoonishly huge boobs into my brain. The poor mother.
Weirdo
@@tinnagigja3723ok that is hilarious to me XD
Right! The s--ualize newborns, toddlers, children, kids, teens, and young people then accuse queer adults of being p-dophiles and groomers like WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!!!!!
🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤
Much Love even in this backwards world!!!
Lmao yeah like every girl just pops out like Beyonce
A male spine has vertebrae - a female spine has HERtebrae.
I cackled 🤣
Of all the trans surgeries, getting my spine replaced is the one I'm most worried about.
Honestly they don't even need 'gender markers' to make accusations, I'm a cis woman, and as soon as some people learn that I don't use the name I was given at birth, they assume it's because I'm trans (the sudden swap of pronouns and feeling like they've been tricked just amuses me).
Holy smoke that's weird. People have been changing their names for all sorts of reasons forever. Those phobes need to get a grip.
My mum got once asked if she was pregnant. She was not, she just is heavier. She decided to be nice about it and say "I suppose I will take it as a compliment you think I could be pregnant". This was meant to be referencing her age as she is too old to get pregnant. But the person she was talking to assumed this must mean she was trans and got super rude. Shes also been "clocked" as trans for having a square jaw or body hair. Some transphobes standards of gender are so weird and so specific that I swear most if not all cis people dont meet them, if they were to really dole them out equally. I am sure they found something about you they found suitably non gender conforming the moment you said you changed your name. Because you see "they can always tell".
@@zanthiablue5254The bigots' definition of gender is so binary and so extreme that it _always_ excludes a huge number of cis people.
The fascists do the exact same thing with race, too: criteria so strict, nobody can realistically be "pure" enough.
Yep, I'm the opposite, I'm trans but haven't changed my name (still deciding if I want to). I've had people refuse to call me by my name and demand my "real name", because for some reason a stereotypically feminine name and they/he pronouns makes transphobes think I'm a trans woman? And *aggressively* 'misgender' me with the pronouns I said I use. Like bravo, you failed to be transphobic. Good luck finding another name that isn't a nickname.
@StopSin thank you for buying it and supporting trans folks. That's very Christlike of you.
As a child I was misgendered due to my hair being short and only ever wearing pants. Now it's "your voice is too low," "only a man would have that hair" (a purple mohawk I keep in a high pony), and "you only wear a push up bra to hide that your boobas are fake." Apparently cis women are not allowed to be naturally small chested ever. And gods forbid they actually listen to me talk for a while cause I swear like a sailor and that's apparently one of the ways you can tell someone was born male. I can't even with these people.
They think swearing is hardwired into male babies' genes?? I'm imagining one of those DNA diagrams labeled ATCG except it all says "FUCK" and "SHIT"
The swearing part kills my, my sister and I swear like a sailor, neither amab.
Yeah people always mistook me for a female before getting a haircut, now it’s better tho
I've had similar comments - especially when I was a teenager - I have both small breasts and long hair, plus our school uniform was the same for everyone, so I'd get "Is that a boy or a girl?" (behind my back of course). Why does it even matter?
I always had the same issues than puberty hit… not as a non binary teen I long for a more masculine body and a deeper voice
If all celebrities are trans "what do they do with Eliot Page?" Broke my brain.
There is actually an answer here. They first said Elliot Page was a trans woman before he came out, and then - once he did, instead of backing down - they assumed he DETRANSITIONED. It was hysterical
Iirc they say that Elliot was first a biological man, transitioned into a women, then transitioned into a man??
@@malaizze I...that...what? 💀
@@falcon_arkaig yes. Unsurprisingly that isn't making them actually support him 🙄
@@geraintthomas4343 Transphobies: We support Detransitioners
Also Transphobies: Elliot Page is a groomer
🤨 Like if they think Elliot is a detransitioner why wouldn't they support him???
The TERFs keep accidentally validating my gender. Almost every little detail they seem to say is an amab thing exists on my body and I can't help but respond with a solid "sick! I was always meant to be a man! Score!"
Lmao
Ikr! I was thinking the same they're just affirming a bunch of trans masc people such as you and I 😂. Ofc they never think of us otherwise our existence would ruin their theories
Yep, and they don't even figure it out when you agree with them. Like I've had people claim "success" on helping me "breakthrough the delusion that I'm a woman"...in conversations where I've talked about having a hysterectomy. Like they are right that I'll never be a woman and that thinking I am one is a delusion, but they are completely oblivious.
Me too!! 🎉❤
@StopSin lmao, and? Not like that's going to stop my doctor prescribing me all the things I need for hormone replacement therapy. You're only wasting your own time here, when you could be doing anything else to make yourself feel happy.
I was born with “more testosterone than average for a woman”
Turns out I’m a trans man
as a trans man, it's weirdly affirming to see the "gender markers" they consider male bc I have all of those characteristics. it's so bizarre how obsessive these people are
SAME. I'm a trans guy as well, and my shoulders, legs, and forearms are considered "more manly" than my AMAB nonbinary boyfriend. My clothes hang off their shoulders like blankets or drapes because they aren't as broad as me! Our other boyfriend, another trans man, has "masculine" hands, according to transphobes. It's very funny.
@@catboysephiroth560 right?! I'm 6' with broad shoulders and a pretty prominent bone structure. my only feminine "gender marker" is that I have a pretty tiny waist. my girlfriend is also trans, and she has a very feminine bone structure
Fellow trans man, and same. I almost wish I could show one of those nutjobs a childhood pic of me so I could hear all the ways I looked like a cis boy pretending to be a girl
Atta’ king 👏
You think it’s weird that most people know about biology and sex markers?!
I've actually been "investigated" by transphobes. I took a picture of myself after getting a hair cut, and I posted it on my instagram with no makeup or filter. All of a sudden I got a flood of people calling me a man and just being very transphobic. I'm a cis woman, btw.
That's rude. I'm sorry you had to endure such nonsense.
I got something like that too, except it was just some idiot on Twitter stalking me on my posts after I left a trans-positive reply on a thread about something about trans people. I am a cis man (16yo at the time) and this guy kept asking me about my genitals and shit on all of my posts I made after that (I like to draw and I've been putting my drawings on a Twitter account sometimes)
I’ve also been investigated, I posted myself on tiktok as a reaction video cause it was funny (I had on a mask and my hair covered my eyes somewhat cause of the shadow) and they were rather stupidly sayinf “Those boobs don’t make you a woman.” Like you can’t see the he/him pronouns at the top of my account on tiktok. They’re so absolutely obsessed with trans women they think anyone and everyone is a trans woman no matter what even if they have FTM in their username.
You are not a cis women. You are real women, and these guys are cut-thier-cock women
@@FTMothman On that note, I love your name!
I feel like the ones accusing celebrity women of being a man is just their way of coping with the fact that attractive women in real life want nothing to do with them. It's a cover for being too cowardly to approach attractive and confident women
Think you're right. Most trsnsvestigators i met are of the incell type.
Yep. I was coming to find a comment like this, because the flip side of it is why they insist men like Ryan Gosling also had the elite gender flip or whatever they’re calling it this week: it gives them the excuse they need for not looking like him. In both cases, surgery is why they can’t have what they want. This gives them permission to rage about how unfair it is that they’re tempted with “unreal” images all the time.
Uhuh very obviously that transphobia is just misogyny with a new name. Theyre shunned by society for being misogynistic toward cis women so they've gone to the next vulnerable group. These people are literal psychopaths
BINGO!
They never want to admit they covet or lust after these people, and get so frustrated that they can never be or be *with* them, so they lash out to make themselves feel better. The bullying tactics were never left behind in high school; the TERFs frigging peaked before graduation, if they even got to graduate. And there are plenty of people who dropped out of high school who did SO much more with themselves than the people who need hate to pretend they're "thriving."
And/or, it's a way of coping with insecurity about one's own appearance or gender presentation. You might be a complete dumptruck or look like a Barbie doll who was left on a heater, but at least *you're* the last real cis on the planet! You are LEGEND!
game show idea: two transvestigators are both shown pictures of a person. one transvestigator is told that this person claims to be a man while the other transvestigator is told they claim to be a woman. the two transvestigators must then go against each other to "prove" the person's "real gender"
Plot twist: the person in question in intersex and non-binary
@@ScarletTiger109 I hate subversive things like you so very much. It's piss unto the craft of the LORD.
Yes
@ScarletTiger109 would it technically mean that the person would be cis non-binary somehow ? Like not male nor female and not a man nor a woman ? It's aligned !!! IT'S ALIIIIIGNED !!!!!!!!
I can confirm that the "everyone in Hollywood is trans" thing isn't a post 2019 thing. I used to work with a guy, pre-plague (maybe 2018-2019? I dunno, time means nothing after 2020 haha), who FULLY believed in this stuff. I mean, he had a ton of other conspiracy theories, but me, a closeted trans dude, found it hilarious. "We can always tell", my left (non-existent for now) bollock 😂
hell, they did it to michelle obama when barack started running
@@Romanticoutlaw I'm not sure which was worse in that particular case, the racism or the transphobia. Maybe a mix of both. At the time, I never understood what people had against her honestly. I still don't really get it. Some people need a hobby.
I remember the pre 2019 'lady gaga is a man' takes, there's ones going further back about Madonna.
What happened to "everyone in Hollywood is an alien trying to conquer the world"? Is that not in vogue anymore?
I think it's just that there's been such an explosion of it, same with most conspiracy theories. Like yeah, it was definitely around, but it's gotten so much more prevalent.
I find it interesting how many transphobes are anthropologists and osteologist able to figure out so much about someone just by looking at them
Their skill-set is more akin to phrenology. Skull shape determines personality and other eugenic garbage.
So ironic considering that anthropologists are starting to abandon the claims that they can always tell gender by skeletal structure.
@@dagmarlandI think they realised that something like a third of all the skeletons they found didn't have hip width which placed them firmly in male or female categories.
they be watching too much Sherlock Holmes and forget the part where Sherlock Holmes is smart
@@dagmarlandThose would be archeologists not anthropologists in most cases and starting to? They never really did. Gender hasn't been a determining factor for decades in fossil research.
People can get so judgmental about gender norms. I am a Cis woman, as a child I tried to cut a ponytail out of my hair and cut it to the nape in a chunk at the back. I had to get a pixie cut. At the time my Cis man brother was a little baby. My mom let his hair grow so he had bright orange ringlets. Everyone would think I was a little boy in public. If I wore a dress, which I rarely did because I'm more of a tomboy, people would get mad at my mom for "dressing a boy in a dress." I started introducing myself like, "I'm Kat. I'm a girl." -- If I as a cis gender person went through that, I can't even begin to image how bad those same people are to those who are trans, non-binary, or gender fluid that express themselves in non-conforming fashions.
We are told by literal God to keep the genders in their proper clothes and hair styles. So shove that behind the curtain.
"Is JKR trans? 🧐"
I see we've gone full circle.
7:52 As someone who lives in rural Christian conservative Texas, I feel like I'm qualified to answer this question. Transphobes don't like to be called transphobic for one reason and one reason only: it has bad connatations (as it should).
Saying "I believe in the Christian values of family and mothers and fathers and treating little girls like little girls and little boys like little boys and I don't think predatory men should be allowed in the bathroom with my daughter" seems (to them) more passionate and moral and "protective of children" rather than hateful and bigoted.
Saying "I'm transphobic" would be like openly admitting that they hate trans people (which most do, but they like to hide behind the "we love everyone but just don't support the gays" attitude for the same reason of not wanting to sound like a loon).
They realize they sound crazy when they say these things, but because they think we're the crazy ones, they try to distance themselves as much as possible from "the bad ones" who share the exact same opinions as them but are a little prouder.
One will say "I'm homophobic and gays are all going to hell---and they should go to hell because they deserve it!" and the other, who interrupts with "we don't hate them; we just don't support their choices" while agreeing wholeheartedly, is thinking less about letting everyone know their opinions and more about gaining a following.
They want you to change your opinion to agree with them, and they think that (rather than saying "I hate the gays, they're gross and God hates them" right away) pretending to be a concerned parent or a feminist who wants to protect women will give them a greater chance of swaying your view.
The idea is that once you agree with them, then you'll be brought over to the "good side" and suddenly realize everything else bigoted that they didn't yet say is also true. Or that they'll be able to change your opinions little by little over time rather than shocking you all at once.
But, you know, it's the TRANS people who are indoctrinating people and trying to "convert" them. Clearly.
You're absolutely right, they *know* it looks bad to be openly homophobic/transphobic. That's why they love the alt-right, because they're making it "okay" to be openly hateful again. Until then, they're still playing the marketing game. "If we can frame it as 'protecting kids/women', we can attack them for 'endangering kids/women' if they argue against it. (No matter how valid those arguments are. We don't have to be right, we just have to be louder.) We can get people to do our bidding, even if they don't fully agree with our beliefs. We can get them to vote on legislation we like by threatening to destroy their public image if they don't."
@StopSin k, and?
@StopSin *sets fire to your entire profile*
@StopSinsuch a silly little guy
Look at him, fishing for attention, he's commenting this everywhere lol
Perfectly articulated! What's wild to me is that I'm pretty sure some bigots aren't even doing that thought process consciously. Like it's an instinct more than an active strategy. Some part of them understands that the way they think is socially and morally unacceptable, but that's not what they were taught to believe, so their mind makes excuses and tempers their speech. Like they sink into themselves just enough to slide by the decency radar.
It's like when you yell at a kid for calling someone a swear word. Sometimes the kid will just swear under their breath at you from then on.
Tbh the people who think banning trans people from bathrooms would stop predators are ridiculous. If making something illegal would stop people, we wouldn't have criminals. Leave us alone. Yall just transphobic and dumb. I love your videos Jamie. Always a good giggle here. I'm a proud spud. And I hope all my fellow spuddies (spud buddies) are having a wonderful day! 😊❤
What? Everybody knows rapists are afraid of toilet signs 😂
I’m going to make crime illegal!! (This is sarcasm)
What always cracks me up is the logistics that would be involved in such a ban. Like.... Are you going to put bouncers in front of bathrooms? Do i have to show my ID when i want to pee? How will that worl in a Club, where the ladies queue is already ridiculously long? That poor imaginary bouncer wont know what hit tjem 😂
Imagine being able to identify as anything you want and everybody is just expected to play along 100% and not ask questions.... Women do not want to use the bathroom with men... Even if the men call themselves women, they still don't want to. And I understand it... Men who "identify as women" do not want to pee with men either... but are somehow baffled that women feel the same way....... You can paint stripes on a horse but it is still a horse.
This is actually a fantastic way to show how transphobia will *always* circle back around to being misogyny.
According to these """"investigators"""", I think I would be the perfect enby 😂🤣😂🤣
And remember, homophobia is misogyny's snot-nosed little brother: where you see one, the other is _always_ close by.
@@John_Weiss yep yep
Same xd, how nice of them!
Spot on. Bigotry always branches off in some manner. For transvestigators, it really is just sexism but also racism and ageism. It's bonkers.
@@John_Weiss Yeah the little brother takes a dump and sets it on fire on your doorstep when you're not looking
Can we also collectively decide to keep calling Twitter Twitter? I refuse to call it X
Honestly, X sounds like it could be the name of some evil corporation in a movie.
@@alicebthegachaweirdo8378who says that it isn’t an evil corporation in a movie?
@@brymulderthe fact that if this were a movie a good ending would've been hinted at
Now I've actually thought up a plot for this movie though. Here it is:
*dramatic voice over while video plays on screen*
Over the past century, technology has advanced incredibly. But one app has dominated all, one that everyone uses, because it is the only way to connect with the world. X, origins unknown, has developed to rule society. On X, you can meet everyone, talk, date, or anything you could possibly wish to do, without leaving the comfort of your home. X took over everything, every app, so all content creators moved to X.
*cut to shots of Jammidodger, Luxeria, Shaaba, One Topic and Roly talking in their separate rooms*
One day, 5 creators realised something...
They had not been off X for a month. So they set off on a journey, to stop X before real life became unnecessary and was abandoned in favour of X.
*show their journey and them facing social media monsters like TERFS (the big boss was JK Rowling, they defeated her with reason and logical arguments), trolls, homophobes, and more...*
And then at least they reached the headquarters, where Elon Musk was...
But then they realised...
That he was a robot, mind-controlled and addicted to X just like everyone else.
So who was behind the mask of Elon Musk?
*The Click laughs in evil Swedish from behind them*
*they gasp because the Click has an army of Emotional Support Demons and landsharks*
*OT betrays them, because he and Click are lovers*
*epic battle ensues with dramatic music*
The End...
sometimes i call it xitter (pronounced shitter) but i do wish media companies would refuse to call it X. there is zero reason we should all have to be party to this deeply disturbed man's weird obsession with owning a company named x (he tried to do the same thing with paypal 25 years ago and got booted off the board for it).
I hate getting to the store every two months or so to buy new gender markers, those things run dry so fast. What a scam.
I remember in the 1980's when I was a teen, people were transvestagating Annie Lennox. Her mother had to come out and conferm she was a girl from birth. This is not as new as it seems.
I think they transvestigated Jamie Lee Curtis, as well.
Heck, there were rumors Mae West was a man
@StopSinwow, what a rebel
Difficult not to revere Annie's androgyny, though. I used to mistake her for a man, but was corrected. Still found her quite stunning, and as someone who uses demifemme in place of demigirl, Annie's androgyny was incredible and had me wishing I could've also been androgynous. (The "girl" suffix makes less sense than femme, for the days I'm feeling more feminine, y'know?)
@@Daelyah Don't. It's satanic.
I will NEVER understand these people’s OBSESSION with the genitalia people were born with.
I do. They’re obsessed with controlling other people’s lives, and they’re not above getting into peoples privates even when they’re only children.
Its predatory by nature. Why do you think theyre trying so desperately to make everyone believe we're predators? They're trying to accuse someone else so ppl don't figure out they're the predators
@@hatusnee "accuse them of that which you are guilty"
yep and it's creepy as hell to be concerned with the genitals of infants
As a trans person i only ever think abiut genitals when transphobes bring it up. Just doesnt seem appropriate to think about the private areas of strangers
She certainly isn’t a woman by her own standards since Joanne thinks menstruating is central to the experience and at 58 it’s almost certain that’s not something she can do anymore. She also thinks gender is a binary so having excluded herself from the female categorization with her own narrow definition, male is all that’s left.
Exactly lol. She says a female is “a producer of large gametes” but I guarantee she isn’t producing large gametes at nearly 60
Are you being deliberately obtuse? I don’t care enough to get involved with the discussion but I’m fairly certain she means someone who naturally produces them barring medical complications or age.
this isn’t the gotcha you think it is
Yeah, no. You are clearly missing her point on purpose. I’m a medical practitioner….biological sex is an actual fact. Male and female, and the very small percentage of babies born with ambiguous external genitalia or a mixture of male and female sex characteristics. But still…. Male or female. Not “none of the above”.
This is not a transphobic statement, this is simply a biological fact.
Folks need to learn to critically think and qualify their statements. Calling everyone who disagrees with you a transphobe is cheap and ignorant.
@@Chick4choice and self defeating in the long run
Terf ideology is self harm. It’s a dangerous thing and if they get what they’re asking for (which is the rights of trans women), then it gives their allies (misogynistic men who’d said that they’d be happy to protect “real women” 🙄 which is a stupid statement in itself) the green light to start taking away the rights of cis women… including women like JKR and Posey Parker, or whatever her name is.
They're literally picking actors who have been in the public eye since they were children. When do they think they had time to transition with no one noticing!?
Many are the children of famous people, which means they've been in the news since birth.
Well, they believe kids are being mutilated willy nilly so. Maybe at the age of three?
Well this backfired on Rowling in a turn we didn't expect
Now I’m waiting for her “I didn’t think they’d eat MY face!” response
I just checked my clavicles. I found out at age 56 that I'm really a man! I had no clue. 🤯
That's how secretive the agenda is 😱
Me too, sis, but I'm also a straight man because I fancy Ryan Gosling.
I think that they just don't understand that being thin can result in a much sharper looking jaw line.
It's so funny how they can ignore every single "gender marker" except the one single one that they think looks masculine or feminine.
Not to mention cosmetic surgery that makes the jawline stand out more (look up "buccal fat pad removal").
You bought an LGBT+ flag, giving money to people who likely support LGBT+ rights, and have now increased engagement on an LGBT+ friendly video, helping it be promoted to more people. Well done.
@StopSin
Absolutely, that is what I was thinking about all of the critiques on the women with sharp or prominent jaws. Pretty much all of those women are quite thin! The reality is that fat stored in the face is going to make it appear much softer, but when you've got hardly any fat at all, the face is going to be pretty defined.
The only thing I have left to say about JKR and her circus of clowns is "play stupid games, win stupid prizes".
Hahaha yup
Calling Twitter “X” feels like when a friend is forced back into the closet by their family and you have to call them their deadname in front of them.
"transvestigating" looked different in the 90's. But yes, it happened to me a lot in my 20s.
Once, a teenage boy (a stranger) said to me, "You're a woman, right?"
I replied, "last time I checked..."
He said "Thanks, you just won me $5." He waved to his friends, who had apparently placed bets.
That was annoying, but not as bad as getting kicked out of public restrooms.
(I'm a cis female, BTW)
A lot of butch lesbians wouldn't be "real women" according to these bigots.
Which is actually the point. They're going after trans people as a way to get at gays and lesbians, _especially_ those who can't pass.
So fucking gross you had to go through all that shit 🥺
I have a family member who does this with people and as a cis woman with facial hair due to having wonky hormones I like to remind him that I’m a woman with a moustache and he knows I’m afab because he literally was standing outside the hospital room when I was born and heard the doctor say “it’s a girl”.
This reminds me of how when i used a gender swap filter on my transphobic stepfather it looked like JK Rowling
Edit: by Dionysus i swear if this comment gets bigger than the one about the brass vs woodwind conflict then i will, uh, probably get excited? Or something?
that's hilarious
My condolences to your dad
i cackled
I love the “by Dionysus” expression lmao
Guys how is the @StopSin bot still here
26:30 - Luxeria might find this interesting: sometimes women end up with receding hairlines due to tight pony tails. If they’re constantly wearing tight pony tails, they lose hair at the front where it’s constantly being pulled back and I believe those follicles just die from the stress so that is a perfect example of why a female would have a receding hairline! I remember seeing a plastic surgery show where someone needed a hair transplant due to this problem
Yep. It's traction something or other (might be traction baldness but I can't recall), and can be brought on by tight pony tails as you mentioned, or tight braids, or any other tight hair style which puts a lot of tension on the roots
@@bellablue5285 I think it's traction alopecia
Your comment made me think of a video about medieval beauty standards that mentioned women having high foreheads(turned out looking similar to receding hairlines) used to be the epitome of feminine beauty.
@StopSin don’t really see how that’s relevant in anyway to my comment, mate 💀
@@antaresah it's a bot, just report it
As a tall cis woman with strong features, I have been transvestigated a few times unfortunately... I swear, these people are obsessed. I encountered 3 types of transvestigators: cishet men who are afraid to be gay, unhinged women and teenagers who harass people for no reason whatsoever.
My favorite incident happened when I was sitting on a bench, scrolling through social media on my phone. It's important to the story to note that I was sitting with my legs apart, forearms resting on my thighs. (apparently that's a manly position) I kid you not, out of nowhere, this woman comes up to me and screams at me "You'll never be a real woman! You sit just like a male". I asked her what her deal was and I think at that point she understood that I was a cis woman, because she looked embarrassed and swiftly walked away without apologizing.
Honorable mention to the cishet guy who went up to me and asked if being attracted to me makes him gay.
That's awful but also you should've looked him dead in the eye and hit him with the classic Steven Yeun "You are. You are gay."
@@swellactually I probably should have, haha. I just burst out laughing and told him if he needed to ask that question, he’s at least a little gay. He was a good sport about it, thankfully. 😂
The Transformers poisoned the entire well, not them. God told them to never do cross dressing for a reason. But they've instead made it an entire culture, pissing him off. And because he is truth, he exposes it and allows the outbreak to bring more to repent, for more to be saved.
Hey, least the guy had balls xD But yeah, my friend gets mistaken for a guy a lot too, it's silly that people are so certain that AFAB can't be born masculine.
You really have a good point with "they've looked at these women, thought they're ugly and decided they are men". I wish women were just allowed to be ugly lol and not be denied of their femininity for it. There's literally nothing wrong with being an ugly woman but women get treated like it's a personal failing or a character flaw. Wish we would stop putting so much importance on appearance
It's definitely a misogynistic thing, because it's not like men get persecuted for being ugly and then it's thought they are not masculine. Even feminine men who are pretty, they won't deny he is pretty, but they'll say he's disgusting or not a man because he isn't masculine.. but they won't say he's ugly.
It’s you women that are pushing all this trans nonsense. If trans wasn’t a thing ugly would still be a thing but there are so many trans now that ugly gets questioned.
"J,K. Rowling is a man... "
Hey, don't go filing her away with us. We don't want her either.
Enbies don't want her, either! Just send her to the chum bucket!
As a cis woman 182 cm tall, I didn't know I was a man. What a discovery! 😱 We learn something new every day.
According to that logic, I'm starting to think the Netherlands are entirely populated by men.
If i combine my height and the shape of my nose with all the alpha male talk about what women are "naturally" like because InStInCt.... Huh, guess i need to come out to my Partner again. Honey, i forgot to mention, im a dude! 🎉
You will always be a HUMAN😇
Transvetigations are older than you might think! I remember I was a kid and people were already talking about Michelle Obama "being born a man"
its weird how being trans is supposed to be an insult among some cis people
Oh yeeeeaaahh. I remember now. They would point at her biceps and claim she wore a wig and say that her children were adopted.
That's actually tied to old-fashioned racism. Black women are often seen as too masculine to those who think white European beauty standards are superior. Hierarchical sexists also prefer women to appear frail and meek. Michelle is strong in both body and personality.
Bigots know she's cis, but they relish using this insult for the reasons I described.
I like the way that combines with the theory that Obama is secretly gay. So like is Michelle Obama a man in drag as his gay husband, is she his transfeminine beard, or is Obama a transphobic gay who doesn’t recognize her gender and Michelle deserves better?? There’s so many ways you can take this.
And that Obama was gay because of that somehow
pride and prejudice terf: *sees women wearing minimal makeup*, omg they're MEN
Loving the implant talk, and YES QUEEN, gender affirming surgeries are done by cis people all the time and no one bats an eye
Twitter is one of the few places/things that can be gladly be deadnamed. Transfolks, not so much. Be respectful to our trans friends and siblings!
I’ve never thought of it as deadnaming Twitter. But Twitter is the only one who has earned that level of disrespect. 😂
@@lisadoes I think of it as respect for Twitter's identity. Musk is the one who deadnamed Twitter by renaming it and making it dead.
We'll stop deadnaming Twitter when Musk stops deadnaming and misgendering trans people.
I wonder what happens when someone inevitably decides that Elon is obviously really Eve.
@@clovernacknime6984 Now, I don't troll... but it would be kind of fun to make a fake account to transvestigate Elon
The way I got whiplash from turning my head to my monitor so fast when Luxeria said "mpreg".
I was looking into breast reduction/removal (genderqueer trans masc) and the private clinic I found only marketed the procedure at cis women. And funnily enough if I pretend to only want the surgery because I have big boobs and correlating health issues like sweat eczema and pain from the weight and stuff, having my insurance pay for it would be so much easier than trying to get approved for gender affirming care... For the same exact procedure.
Also I'm not sure if it feels different with chest implants but I can confirm that laying on your chest if you have breasts, especially big ones, is wildly uncomfortable
YES, MOOD
Agreed
BRUH if they think Satan makes you trans in exchange for fame and fortune I'ma have a serious talk with him tonight in our 3am meeting.
Bc why the hecc am I (and countless others) BROKE AND TRANS AT THE SAME TIME??????
Hmmm... Yes, you have a very good point. Who's organizing the board meeting for this oversight?
@@discordiacreates6669 hmm, I guess I have to, since Satan n his demons are as lazy as one can get. I have to study witchcraft, I have to read the book, I have to make the symbols n do the rituals and summon him 🙄 but he's nice so I forgive him.
@@_aconite_cj_ yeah he really makes people work for themselves but hey, at least he's accepting, if a bit absentminded
@@discordiacreates6669 that's why I don't really mind him, plus he's adorable n warm.
@@_aconite_cj_ yes ^^
Jammie exitedly announcing his silicon balls and the Lux also being so happy for him, was just so funny to me. Just something so wholesome and yet so comedic.
Even real balls can be weird and uncomfortable sometimes.
@StopSin Nobody cares. We're not all obsessed with flags like you so very clearly are.
I think part of why these people care so much about celebrities being “secretly trans” is because it threatens their own sexuality. If Marilyn Monroe was actually a man and other men find “him” attractive, that would mean they’re gay 🙄 or something….
Trying to rationalize how these people think makes my brain hurt
Because it's literally goes against Jesus Christ and promotes Lucifer.
I'm reminded of the time my Grade 6 class got a skeleton for the classroom. The box said it was a male skeleton, but so many kids insisted it couldn't be, because there was no penis bone.
And they couldn't all have been raised by raccoons (or other animals with baculums) that's just improbable.
bless
@@goodpeople25 This genuinely made me burst out laughing, thank you so much
@@swellactually Thank you for appreciating my specific humour. I've been watching a live play where a character uses a raccoon baculum as a cane so it was on my mind.
As a trans 13 year old I struggle with finding others like me it's so wonderful to see strong trans adults being such lights in the world! Love you guys❤🌈
You're too young to know who you are, puberty and teenage years, even into early 20's is a horrible time. It's fine to explore your identity and be playful but please don't rush into medicalisation. You have plenty of time to discover yourself and if you do think that's the route for you there's plenty of time for all that when you're an adult.
Ignore the idiots above me, you’re valid and you know you better than anyone. I wish you luck on your healthcare journey if that’s what you seek!
@@Zombii_x I grew up not knowing what trans was. Didn’t make me cis. Did make me very depressed, though.
@@MiniT-x8q Ugh, we gonna gatekeep knowledge of self beyond the 20s too now? There’s no pleasing you people. Leave the kid alone, and the talk about hormonal treatment to their doc.
My cis brother totally had no way to know he was a man before the magical age of 18. Seriously, what is with this "oh you can't know your gender if your trans before adulthood but you can totally know it if your cis" bullshit? Nobody's telling cis kids they've been convinced by the illuminati that they're cis. I know I realized I should have a masculine body as soon as boobs started growing. You're not alone even if the world sometimes makes you feel that way. I see you, I know your pain, you're valid! Take care! ❤ 🏳️🌈
At any moment they could take a step back and realise men and women aren't that different, but no! Insane!
It's also super agist, of course your face won't be as soft when aging. They dangerously flirt with the idea that the standard for women is to look underage.
They aren't so much flirting as French kissing it.
It's thinly veiled sexism with underlying fetishisism of youth. SUPER creepy.
@@Wednesdaywoe1975GOOD ONE
It's also irritating because due to insane western beauty standards, most celebrities are very thin. Of course these women are going to have defined jaw lines; if they want to keep getting roles they aren't allowed to have enough fat to soften them.
I work as an editor for mpreg stories, and one of the conversations my friend and I have a fair bit is how trans men fit into the conversation. Because the characters are men who can become pregnant, so why would these stories not include trans men as well? There is a bothersome amount of people who love mpreg stories, but they do not want trans men included in the genre. And it's like .... if you're into the concept of men being able to be pregnant, then what is your problem with men who can actually get pregnant? I just wish they'd admit to their transphobia already and not try to justify their a-holery.
It might be too real because a lot mpreg is kinda fantasy for them? , but then there is no reason it shouldnt be in the story like it could bring variety and interesting conversations in the story and divesity, why shouldnt it be there. There is no reason not to. Like a story of a transman that can get pregnant and a magical mpreg, could be really interesting. Genuinly.
@@marocat4749Yes! I agree. They see it more as a fantasy thing,
That's what always made me uncomfortable with people who are, like, REALLY into mpreg but don't seem to give a shit about trans men irl. Like you're gonna tell me you made your love of men getting pregnant into a personality trait, but won't stand up for or even acknowledge the existence of men who can get pregnant irl? It feels weirdly fetishizing, even though they seem to want to cut out trans men from the equation entirely. Like they want to get off to the idea of a pregnant man but with none of the "baggage" that comes with the dreaded trans label.
(I say this as a transmasc myself, and I'm not saying I don't think people should have their fantasies, but it just always felt kinda... gross, the way some people go about it.)
Maybe they just really like the idea of assbabies /j
Most transgender people do not want to have their transness portrayed as a fetish. It's probably better to refrain from including them in sexual narratives like this.
These stupid "transvesitgators" make me feel bad about the way I look because I am a cis woman but I have a sharp jawline and I cant change the way I look!! It doesn't mean I'm a man!! I hate the way I look, so that just hurts
No worry they are just scientifically illiterate, your body is perfect the way it is. Masculine based on binary references? Maybe, but nothing in science is binary.
And its not like we never found a penis, or one oe two y chromosomes on a very feminine woman. Life is special, people are too and its awesome
I feel you, I honestly do. I'm cis, 6'2", flat chested and not terribly blessed in the facial department. I've had the T slur hurled at me many times, even been grabbed by the crotch to "confirm" people's suspicions about me. It's a hard lesson to truly grasp, but these people are the problem, not us, and we do NOT deserve to feel bad about ourselves for any of this shit. Besides, so what if I was trans? Fuck 'em : )
Aw, girl. I'm sure you look a lot better than you think. And other women contour the heck out of their jawlines to define them, so I hope you can learn to accept and maybe even love it.
But this is a prime example of these haters not only being hurtful to trans people but to everybody else too. Including some of the gorgeous women featured in this video.
I'm sorry that both of you got caught up in the transphobia. it really sucks.
I'm really sorry to hear that! I know that it probably doesn't help to hear this from a random internet stranger, but a lot of modelling agencies specifically look for women with sharp jawlines. Olivia Wilde has a big, sharp jawline and she's just ethereally gorgeous. A lot of instagram models actively contour their jawlines to make them look sharper. Women with sharp, even square, jawlines can absolutely be feminine-looking and beautiful. It doesn't make you less of a woman.
All I'm thinking is these "transvestigators" are just revealing they've never seen the body of a real life woman lol
"When everyone's trans, no-one will be."
-Syndrome
It’s the collab we’ve all waited for. Although Roly, Luxeria, Shaaba and Jamie in one room would be quite something. Are we ready for the chaos?
If OT, Click, and Lexi were added in, Apophis would return
I'm here for it!
So ready!
Add in OT and the Click, and the resulting chaos would be _exquisite!_
@@gone_mad-tryagainlatertechnically Apophis returns every night to be slain by Ra (and Set and Khepri and a smattering of others)
As someone who will never be able to medically transition because of health risks these 'transvestigation' arguments always give me a weird feeling of euphoria. Yes, I do have broad shoulders, a straight clavicle, a jaw, thank you for noticing :3
20:15 - by that woman’s judgements on what makes a man and a woman, she’s a man herself by the size of the nose. If you’re gonna make the tea, you need to drink it, sis!
10:06 not necessarily. trans men have also been victims of hate crimes when using gendered restrooms, they just aren't talked about as much because the wider movement doesn't care about them.
I think it's because people tend to never take women (as in afab people) seriously, so they think every trans man is just a confused tomboy.
Entitled TIMs want all the attention on them. Modern transgenderism doesn’t care about women, or TIFs.
Yeah, its relatively common actually, especially in schools. Ive heard plenty of stories of trans boys getting harassed in bathrooms, like i remember a story a few years back when the whole ass principal was banging on the door of a trans boy using the toilet and demanding he shows his genitals! And a lot of trans men fear using the public restroom in America because of how short the doors are there
Something I always worry about for my masc buddies
as a nonbinary person i always find the gender marker bs so fun bc I've got a great mix of both the "male" and "female" "markers" and while they're absolutely ridiculous I enjoy sitting almost perfectly in the middle. it's affirming in the weirdest most bullshit way lmao
Most people have some of each, just generally more in one direction or the other. They should really be referred to as “sexual characteristics” though since gender isn’t really physical
i love this duo. it’s like a sweet uncle and an unhinged auntie 🤣
I refuse to use the name 'X'. I will continue deadnaming it as Twitter.
I just want to say once more that I'm so grateful for trans creators on youtube. I was raised to be pretty homo- and trans-phobic so just seeing the reality and getting educated on trans issues has been really helpful for me in overcoming that and now I'm an ally.
i want to ask a transvestigator to show an example of a woman theyre sure is a woman lmaooo cuz it seems to me that they think every woman is secretly a man. or id also like to do the same "transverstigator" comment under a transvestigator's video and see what they say abt it lmao
If you do that, I'd love to know how it goes because there definitely seems to be a disproportionate number of woman being targeted compared to men in these posts... Seems pretty gay to me ngl, most of those woman are hot imo so maybe these two are onto something
Women are always the targets. There’s male celebs who have said and done much worse than JKR & they don’t get hate at all. Wouldn’t be surprised if it were men behind this all. They love to demean women & criticise everything about them, especially if the woman isn’t acting in a “dainty feminine manner”.
@@discordiacreates6669 The mouth of lust shall talk himself into the grave, to burn forever.
It's like that one episode of Chowder where Gazpacho bans everyone from his stand, and once he's out of people to ban, he bans himself.
😂😂😂
When my grandmother was in the earlier stages of dementia, every time we went out to eat with her she would point someone out and loudly proclaim “that woman looks like a man” and we’d redirect her attention and if the woman was close enough to have heard I’d make sort of apologetic (and also tall and strong featured) eye contact.
It’s quite tragic how many people online are suffering from dementia.
It’s insane to think that from these people’s perspective, they might even circle back around to supporting Elliot page for ‘returning’ to his original gender ????? Like logically following their (illogical) mentality, that would make perfect sense 🫠
12:45 You can always count on the information being accurate in a thoroughly-researched scientific report that misspells "clavicle".
Everyone says this but-
CREEPS DON'T GET SURGEY TO GO INTO THE OTHER TOILETS, THEY JUST WALK IN
my favorite moment was when a major transvestigator got accused of being trans by other transvestigators. Like yeah when you use a bunch of "markers" that have exactly 0 bearing on biological sex or any grounding in science whatsoever, the goal post can migrate wherever the hell you want. It's all meaningless. Like when does it end?
Also I love how their first thought after seeing 50 women with strong jawlines is "they must all be men" and not "hm perhaps women can have jawlines" which is by far the more parsimonious idea (parsimony is king in science, which they would know if they actually knew anything about real science and not the delusion they've baked from the empty cavity in their skull overheating.)
Arrogance over the state of corruption and madness caused by the unveilings of darkness. You are a fool grasping for air every time you praise Satan with that mouth.
It feels like these "investigators" would have a screaming match with Diogenes over the sex of the chicken.
They'd be doing the screaming, while Diogenes would be making fools of them by picking apart every word they use.
In some ways, transvestigators saved me a lot of bother. If they don’t even think cis people “pass,” trying to “pass” is a low priority to me.
You get back what you put out in the world. JK has put out a lot of bigotry and transphobia.
This was a photo of her MOTHER. The person on a photo was JK Rowling's MOM. This idiot (Rowling) needs to see for herself what kind of people she decided to associate herself with. They literally took the photo of her mother and said "this is a man". Those TERFs have no morals whatsoever. (Not that I thought otherwise). I am a former HP ficwriter so I know Rowling's story quite well and I recognized the photo immediately.
@StopSin nobody cares
@StopSinAh.... so you're an idiot who doesn't follow science?
Transphobia = Honor and Based
@@chuckey191 How is there honor in denying science, spreading misinformation and lies and directly contributing to violence against innocent people?
Toddlers get this concept, I cannot understand why some adults struggle to do the same.
All I'm taking from this video is that Margo Robbie should play Ken and Ryan Gosling whould play Barbie. It's the sequel I would watch
Yes. This is beautiful, and now I desperately want it to happen. I even thought of a vague idea of a plot.
So Ken (Ryan Gosling) has to travel to the real world to tell Barbie (Margot Robbie) that there's an emergency in Barbieland. They travel to Barbieland, as Ken explains that all the Barbies and Kens have swapped bodies. They get there, and suddenly (due to a curse on Barbieland) they swap bodies. (Their body swap is just their voices dubbed on the other actor's body) All the Barbies experience gender dysphoria, and so do the Kens, so they all dress up like the other gender (so Margot Robbie dresses up like Ken, and Ryan Gosling like Barbie.) They realise they need to find someone unaffected by the gender swap to break the curse, so they go back to the real world and after a few shenanigans, find lots of trans people (who haven't medically transitioned) at a Pride parade. They bring them all back to Barbieland, and of course they switch but they're happy about it, and so the curse breaks because it can't withstand happy people. (We then have a few puns about gay meaning happy.) The Barbies thank the trans people, who have stayed in the bodies they wanted to be in, and everyone learns a valuable lesson about gender dysphoria.
I have been completely enamored with this subject since I first heard about it years ago. A group of lunatics totally convinced that all celebrities are secretly trans.
It's the ultimate collapse into insanity. What does being trans have to do with somebody's fame? What purpose does it serve for this secret cabal? And the fact that they truly see trans people as inherently evil is very disturbing.
Still, so interesting to think about how these people exist.
"Skeletal differences"
Sniff-sniff. It smells like eugenics.
The clavicle thing is so ridiculous because in my part of the world, the latest beauty standard for women is the straight clavicle. So women are coveting having a straight clavicle because it's considered as the new beauty trend for women
My husband has a V shaped clavicles. So he's a woman. He is going to be so happy at 34 to know that he was a woman all along !!!
Congrats on your newfound lesbianism
Hi 👋 cis woman here: straight clavicle, no waist definition, 5'10" and same hand and shoe size as my husband.... also I have raised testosterone because PCOS. Have fun with that transvestigators 😂
i just want to know if transvestigators think they themselves are trans?
the trend seems to be that they think everyone in the world EXCEPT them is trans...
chances are hight some might how soe phobes just project :( Genuinly
I think many of them believe they're the only ones who aren't trans. I suspect it's a manifestation of paranoia.
“The trans is coming from inside the house!”
@@SarastistheSerpent I wish it was
Wow. This is not just a movement, it's pure PARANOIA!
31:24 According to my chemical-engineer husband, and "aromatic compound" is a molecule containing a carbon ring with conjugated double-bonds. Testosterone contains no aromatic carbon rings. Estrogen does contain one aromatic carbon ring. so yes, Luxeria, you have it right: testosterone is "aromatized", i.e. one of its carbon rings has its bonds converted into one with conjugated double-bonds. [What it means to have "conjugated double bonds" vs. "regular" double-bonds involves some quantum mechanics that I'm going to leave out, because quantum mechanics gives even us physicists a headache!]
Also, the enzyme we all have that converts testosterone into estrogen is called “aromatase.” Aptly named! :)
Love your energy and banter! And not being trans myself, I've never been transvestigated but I was "investigated" in a way.
Only discovering I was demisexual at the bright age of 42, explained a lot. For example, my cousins were furious with me when on my 18th birthday they took me to a brothel and instead of losing my virginity to a lady of the night, I had a lovely conversation with her.
They could not comprehend that although I found her beautiful, I had no sexual attraction towards her. I was then labelled as gay and most of that part of the family still believes that, including my late father. I no longer engage with that part of my family. I rather be alone than surrounded by well meaning narrow minded religious hypocrites.
It's so generous of you to call them well-meaning. I wouldn't be able to be so kind.
@@dagmarland You're probably right. Calling them well-meaning is a stretch.
What I meant is that they believe they're doing the right thing... even if in the back of their minds, a little voice tells them they're wrong! :)
Honestly having a conversation with someone sounds fun. Do you remember what it was about or did you just talk?
@@Zombii_x Tons of normal human things have labels, my friend. I’m always confused as to why your ilk think those are opposite.
"Hey look I’m blonde"
"Noooo you can’t say that your hair is just a shade of yellow it’s a normal thing don’t label yourself"
This is how you sound btw
@@Zombii_x tell me you dont know what demisexual means without actually telling me
The "We can always tell" crowd are always proving that they can't.
Lmfao at Luxeria’s dad meeting Roly. He a little confused but he got the spirit! 😂
Also, damn, Biscuit really is just absolutely enthralled with Jamie!
I'm a cis woman planning on getting chest work done, gender affirming care for everyone!!! ❤️🏳️⚧️
Good luck, hope everything goes well! 😊
@StopSin sounds like you need a better hobby :)
@StopSin you have commented this on multiple other comments, I think you need a new hobby tbh and need to learn to stop hatred.
I'd rather be a sinner than whatever it is you are doing
@@emmad4308 if they're spamming the same comment, it's probably just a bot
Edit: bot behavior but the channel is actually disgusting and has a discord pinned under its own videos. I recommend reporting the hateful behavior
@angellennie8250 I don't hate entire groups of people for things out of their control, but I do hate how religion is often used to justify bigotry.
Like ofc I hate some things I'm only human I don't understand the point of your comment
I think Jamie Lee Curtis looks amazing for her age but she's was a target for transvestigators before they really got big. I lived with a cis woman who got misgendered a fair bit because she was tall, slim and dressed in jeans and leather with no make up - doesn't take much.
I am LOVING all of these collaborations with my favourite people!!! ❤❤❤❤
Yess!