You do realize that the Fetch is also a creature in Irish folklore. Naming it Fetch is literally Wizards of the Coast naming it what it is actually called. This creature was not invented by them. They just simply reused the idea.
Idea for it using a lake: if the party "sees" it pull someone under, make sure to describe the water not moving in the slightest. After all, it's not pulling something _under,_ but _through._
An idea I had for this is that the fetch is actually the result of a mortal becoming a vampire. Since vampires loose their reflection, what actually happens to it? Well the reflection becomes hungry just as it's mortal counterpart, however the fetch desires the flesh that it no longer has rather than blood.
this gives me the idea of a Fetch working WITH it's former host, the Fetch acting as the vampire's reflection, letting what passes for muscle memory for them work through moving alongside the vampire. Then, when the Vampire attacks and has drained their victim, they toss the now lifeless corpse towards the mirror, where the Fetch reveals itself, and consumes the remains.
i'm sure you've been told already, but it's called a "fetch" because it's inspired by an old Irish folklore creature with the same name, which does pretty much the same thing. most DND monsters with names like this have a similar problem
I genuinely adore the idea of a fetch staring out of the paladin's armor or the warrior's shield. Maybe not even targeting the party, instead treating them as an easy protection for its feeding door. Could even twist the lore a bit and make a Fetch the Warlock's patron, requiring a number of victims be "delivered" to its doorstep as part of its bargain.
I would laugh very hard if it also ended up being by pure coincidence and then there’s this awkward moment where the bbeg is like, “wait, what the heck is going on I didn’t plan thi-… I mean yeah, now my invisible minion is going to get you all!”
I made a spell my wizard made up called Mirror Stride that's like Tree Stride combined with Transport Via Trees but working on mirrors. I think it could have some fun interactions with the Fetch.
Have the Fetch slowly develop an obsession with the Wizard trying to turn the Wizard into one of it's own so it can have a companion. Basically have the Fetch being a lonely outcast trying to make a family for itself using misguided methods.
Exhaustion is definitely emote of a 1 to 1 for negative levels if you want to try and keep the threat super dangerous and capture the feel of the original monster. Solid idea!
definitly not with the "old" exhaustion system of lvl 3 being reaaaaally evil and 6 instant death, but maybe with the new "One D&D" system where each lvl gives you a -1 to everything. So at exhaustion 3 you get -3 to attacks, saving throws and ability checks etc.... that could be a fun option
@DSA rgus you really don't like game combat that actually challenges you, huh? The "Old" exhaustion system was fine, because the first level only gave disadvantage on ability checks, which was meaningless in combat. So you usually had to fail 2 consecutive saving throws before it actually affected you. As far as "6 is instant death" that's not instant, at all, because you have to fail 6 different times to get to that point. Is it more likely to actually kill you, then most things in the game? Sure, on the rare occasion you meet an enemy that causes the condition. But you're still given multiple chances to avoid that. If you die from exhaustion, it's because you refused to take any steps to fix the problem, probably refused to take any actions to heal yourself or back away from the front line, because you'd rather maximize DPR, and then complained when your choices had consequences
@@agentchaos9332 Chill. Looking at the old stat block, the fetch can make two attacks, each delt 2 neg levels, and there is no save. That means if this was to be used on the 5e exhaustion than the target is dead in three rounds if all attacks hit. Negative levels is more of a 1 to 1 with the new Exhaustion rules. Also how do you heal exhaustion wise guy? Aggressive and wrong. My fav.
This creature is one of the reasons why Glitterdust needs to still be in Dnd for 5e, especially if you take the run away route at first. You end up being able to see it covered in glitter, that it can't get rid of. Glitterdust is one of my favorite spells....its literally just magical glitter
One of my favorite quest modules is Mad Manor of Astabar. It's a quest through a spooky mansion with a lot of magic hijinks. I was running a rendition of this for one of my campaigns, but had a banshee be the final boss of the dungeon. She has an attic area filled with mirrors that she kept warping through. Eventually the players realized if they started breaking mirrors, they could limit her mobility.
I love the Fetch, I love vanity monsters and mirror creatures, too bad real world mythology doesn’t have any cool mirror monsters, Bloody Mary, Ungaikyo, and the Flagae don’t count, they are vague or don’t catch the idea I’m after. The Irish Fetch is more like a Doppelganger, no mirrors involved.
I like how they're portrayed in the Dresden files, pretty similar to what's described here, exept they're Fae, and instead of looking like their victims, they take on the form of something the victim fears
@@agentchaos9332 a creature that is so formless the mind just inatly gives it a form of your worst fear for this THING is worse than even that fear but your mortal mind cant comprehend anything more. but you feel it is.
In old traditions, covering the mirrors in a house that a funeral wake was being held in was done to prevent the soul of the dead being trapped in them.
I love the Fetch and it’s been a long term monster in my world and why there are so many superstitious about mirrors 😀 Thank you so much for share this
“It wouldn’t use a puddle on the middle of a forest” Flood happens, lake the Fetch was possessing dried up to a degree and it’s mirror became a small bog which was being kept cool by it. So now instead of a lake that a Fetch can drag people into- and when people look for where the person was dragged in there is no body there… now it’s a small swamp in a forest which rain happens which allows water to stream out and the Fetch follow along with said water, meaning it can now drag people down through the grass. Imagine a Fetch mirroring you and just emerging out of a lake, a swamp, or your flooded front yard through the grass.
FYI, WOTC didn't name the fetch. It took it's name from a real life mythical creature. I want to say it was Irish mythology, and it was kinda sorta the same as the origins of doppelganger myths (which are varied and often nothing like the dnd version). Now you know. And knowing is half the battle. Go Joe!
Love the idea of the fetch coming back later, "I'm telling you! I just ran out the mirror, didn't you see?!" Everyone thinks they're crazy, Then later they get attacked by an invisible force.
If anyone needs a good idea for how the Fetch can work in terms of reflective surfaces, I highly recommend checking out the Hanged Man fight in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Either that or the aptly named Man in the Mirror fight.
If we do end up getting a 5e Dragonlance book, I'm hoping to see this monster in it. So, funny enough, TH-cam unsubscribed me from your channel. If it hadn't been for clicking the bell to be notified about your videos, I wouldn't have seen it nor seen that I'm not a subscriber anymore. Crazy.
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A knight polishing his armour till he saw his reflection clearly, he smiled, but that smile soon faltered. His reflection seemed....off. It was starting back at him with a twisted grin that spread from ear to ear.
Since I had JoJo on the brain from all the "mirror" stuff, I'm distinctly reminded of an enemy using the reflective surface of a coin and a person's eye. I'm not sure how one is dragged through either a coin or an eye ball, but I don't think it's a pretty mental image either way.
A Fetch is a concept from Irish folklore, a sort of ominous doppelganger apparition. It wasn't named by a D&D game designer (tho the monster doesn't seem to hold a lot of resemblance to the folkloric thing) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetch_(folklore)
The "plane for literally everything" sounds like a splendid idea. Is it possible to get a video spitballing about some weird, oddly specific planes? The first that came to my mind are the butter, door and hatchet planes but maybe there are some absolute gems I'm not thinking about
Geometric Plane: A plane of logic and regularity as far removed from the Plane of Order as the Plane of Order is from the Prime Material. The Platonic Ideals (or the equivalent, depending on the name of your universe's Plato) actually exist as real things in this plane (e.g. _The_ Triangle, of which all other triangles are but imperfect replicas). Cob Plane: To blatantly rip off Rick and Morty: in this plane, _everything_ is "-on-a-cob". _Including_ the cobs that things are on. It's cobs all the way down _and_ up. The only thing keeping the plane itself from being -on-a-cob is that the plane's cobbish influence does not penetrate into the interplanar medium. A few extraplanar entities know _why_ this limitation exists, but they refuse to talk about it. Fractal Plane: Somewhere between the previous two planes. "Larger" and "Smaller" are just directions you can move in, like "Down" or "Clockwise". Areas, entities, and events repeat, but the details subtly change in each repetition depending on the direction of travel.
Lol a fiend pact warlock lol and echo knight. When you summon your duplicate from echo. It crawls out from your shiny shield, breastplate, whatever. Lol and looks at the abilities fiend mimic what the Fetch can do. Lol So a guy made a pact with a Fetch in exchange for his life/soul he would offer others to them. But as a reminder of the pact, his echo looks gaunt like a Fetch version of the PC. Lmao Of the flavor. Lmao
Dude! An oathbreaker paladin or warlock has made a deal with a Fetch. They walk around with a mirror shield (like legend of zelda) and whenever they enter combat the fetch joins combat with that villain by exiting through the mirror shield. Instantly make the villain more mysterious and scary.
I'm not too knowledgeable on DND and just started looking into it. Would it be possible to make a deal with a fetch as a warlock, connecting it to a mirror shield or very polished shield, in exchange for magical items/victims? Might be quite overpowered but would be a cool bargain to make for a unique companion.
I could imagine some kind of moster using or wearing something big and reflective to essentially summon Fetchs to aide them in combat like the Mirror Knight in Dark Souls 2
Whenever I hear about the fetch I can't stop imagining a scenario in which the adventuring party has lost one of their friends, and they need true resurrection. Magic like that is almost impossible to find, especially on short notice. The party hears about a sect of wild men that can commune with an old God known to be fond of mortals, but these wild men are strange, they run through the forest cackling, completely naked, rolling about, wrestling and dancing, speaking riddles and jokes, gorging themselves on raw meat and swamp water, seemingly not getting ill.. despite hearing all this the party sets out to find them, upon finding these wild men maybe you have them perform a task or two, a favor for a favor, and once the tasks are done they'll let the party commune with the god. The party does this, they commune with the god, since the God is chaotic good, and is fond of mortals, there's more than happy to resurrect their friend.... If it will settle a little wager with them. A trial, I'm still trying to fully flesh out the trial but I know that it will take place in a madhouse, filled with mirrors, the floors damp with just enough water to see their heels reflected back at them. The goal of the trial? Simple, reach the end, that's it. But it might be hard figuring out the mirror maze when you're being stalked by a vile fetch, and what's that?! the party hears the pitter patter of, what sounds like, bare feet accompanied by soft cackles in the distant dark of the monstrous mirror maze. (You guessed it, the naked wild men are back, and they're hungry for raw meat and merryment.) Not that I think my OC is good or anything, but if you're inspired by any of it, feel free to take it and use it. 😅
I love this channel, as a new DM I've loved watching your videos for unique ideas for plot hooks and things even if they're cool ideas I think I'll have to save for when my players are higher level! This is the first one I've implemented and I used this very recently in my campaign which is loosely based off of Lost Mines of Phandelver as it's my first time DMing and my players are all new to dnd (5 of them), and it was the most terrified my players had been of dying. They had recently dispatched a young green dragon with ease and I thought this would be a fun little encounter in a mine - I described a mirror with a sheet over it with a note scrawled beneath it in the handwriting of a madman. One player said they want to look at the mirror so I asked if they're looking at it or in it, they got suspicious and said they were looking at it, but another player, the rogue, said how they wanted to look in it. As I went into detail describing their twisted reflection clawing them from behind, I horrifyingly rolled two natural 20s for its attacks. I had to fudge the damage rolls slightly, as while I've said death is possible I thought an instant death like that is um a little unfair, so the rogue "only" took 32 points of necrotic damage so as not to instantly go unconscious (the party had very little healing left). The druid smashed the mirror as she thought that was hiding the monster only to realise it was the only way to see it from the rogue's perspective, but luckily had faerie fire for the next round as the rogue survived on about 4 hp. It was incredibly stressful for them but a very entertaining and memorable encounter from something little :)
Spoilers for dimension 20 live: Holy shit I just realised that Baron from Dimension 20 is totally based of a fetch! I mean that makes total sense since Brennan is such as dnd nerd.
I'm binge-watching all your videos. What a blast from the past, so many I had as a young lad. I love this one, so much potential. In the past I personally run it as a monster from the plane of mirrors, bounded to a powerful evil merchant crime lord who used it as his personal assassin to kill the competition. A nice hook for a "closed room" mystery. I also added that it can teleport around using reflective surfaces, so it can literally punch the warrior through his sword, like the Spider-man villain The Spot.
I remember a monster in the old iron kingdoms game that something similar. But it went after people's eyes instead. It would pop out of a reflective surface and take out a person's eye with a spoon and wear it. If you had pretty eyes it would come back for the second eye. That was your only chance/time to get your other eye back
I'm going to make this a magic item. A Cyclops' Petrified Eye, whoever looks into it feeds the Cyclops, trying to rebuild its body, the Fetch just uses the eye to make more Fetches since it's being used as a weapon.
Imagine you are a Wizard knowing of the existence of "Fetches", so you craft a mirrored cube that is designed to capture them:) Another idea with that is you provide/insist the party always keeps their armor polished mirror bright and/or keep a Mirror on hand so no matter what they can see them.
Interesting, with that said another option for a fetch (used in White wolf changling the lost and after a folklore story: Young lady hears odd work in the basement of her house in the night, goes downstairs (far down), hears Goblins create a doll in her likeness ("she has such legs, she has such a head") and their master intends to kidnap her. She gets scared and escapes home, maybe a dream?) Is to make them an exchange / changling (fey creature, a doll made to act as the kids / victims and the real kids / victims are in a fey nobels court).
Running an Exandria campaign and the party is about to be harassed by the spirit of Vespin Chloras hunting them from reflective surfaces. I absolutely used this as a guide for that stat block!
For a creature like this, I would go for a direct death save roll as the damage of their attack. This is the kind of creature designed to throw at characters above 15th or at least 10th level. At these levels it's impossible to continuously provide a challenge through standard combat. This gives a very different challenge to the party. One where the wrong decisions will actually lead to death. these are the stakes of the game, the only way to properly do this in 5e is to utilize the death saving throw as damage. They get three and can easily outrun this creature so no one can say it's unfair. Either way I deeply appreciate your lore and conversions, you are helping my campaign design in so many ways ^_^ Have a wonderful day bud
Good call including an image of the mirror monster from Scooby-Doo, I always found it unsetlling. That's also a much better name, written by some people who probably spent very little time thinking of a name for it because you know they had TV shows to write.
I actually know the Fetch from fairy folklore as a changeling type thing, where its a log enchanted to look like a person whose been abducted by the fae
I nominate the Steel Dragon. I used to use this in my campaign world and it was a wonderful "monster" that I used to slowly take over a kingdom - benevolently.
Love listening to your channel why'll cleaning the house,it's like have an audio book being read to me,but also cuz I'm taking a break from binge watching Critical Role campaign 1.
Oh, I know this creature from the AD&D collector card set from the early 1990s. Lots of obscure monsters in that. Not to mention all the neat character cards (and a surprising amount of trans-representation for the time).
Reflective surfaces being the portals it uses could be used for extreme paranoia. Breaking a mirror only makes many smaller mirrors, and even your eyes give off a reflective glint. Imagine a low level party trying to hide from reflections to avoid this thing, only to look into their companion's eyes and see the Fetch looking back.
I Love the concept of the Fetch! I have been thinking of running a Haunted Mansion and it works so freaking well... I just have one question: If let's say, one of the victims in despair broke a mirror in which the portal resigned after the Fetch came through... do the Fetch needs a new portal to go through? Or the many reflective shards now all count as portals for it? Does the portal actually need to be big enough to drag the body?
ROFL.. I was in the middle of hitting my apple bowl (aka ineffable apple bowl) when you said "A lot of bards are gonna die to this creature..." I cracked up laughing for while. Funny cause it's true.
Good observation, it’s exactly like that! It would be so cool to have the party trying to help out an NPC who is claiming that their being chased by something only they can see
You should look up the Nera from 3.5! They're the denizens of the Plane of Mirrors, and wielded these special daggers that would cut so perfectly, the target would suffer profusely-bleeding wounds.
The Fetch, one of the coolest monsters I love to use, albeit rather sparingly, so as to not take away the horror of the thing. One of my absolute favorite AD&D monsters 😊.
Fetch is actualy the name of a monster from Irish folklore, although in Irish folklore the fetch is closer to a doppelganger or a banshee, a portent of doom, visible only to the one it portents the doom of If you see yourself out there, and nobody else can see them, you've found a fetch
This would make for such a wonderfully frightening encounter. Imagine the party is exploring some long-abandoned castle, accompanied by a few more adventurer NPCs and they come to a hallway full of mirrors. As they walk down the hallway, one of the NPCs says "Hey, what is...." but when they all look back toward him, he is gone. As they stand there confused as to where he went, one of the other NPCs suddenly says "Wow, what is tha...." and he disappears before they can turn around. Now the party is on edge. Then, if the DM wants to, as the last push over the edge, they hear a scream and look back in time to see another NPC being dragged through one of the mirrors. 😈
14:17 Demon lords hiring fetches as interplanar assassins and paying them in magic items raises the possibility of encountering a fetch which has done a few jobs in the past for a demon lord and is now _equipped with one or more magic items,_ in addition to their natural abilities.
Concept: the size of the fetch in the mortal world varies depending on the size of the mirrored surface they come through. So a fetch that comes through a regular standing mirror is human-sized, but a fetch that comes through a very reflective lake is like, the size of a giant.
The only reason we see objects at all is due to visible light reflecting off surfaces and going straight into our eyeballs...so a fetch could pop out of *anything* if reflection is the only requirement. (let's not even go into the rest of the EM spectrum)
@@DungeonDad Shucks ☺ Also, you could make it more "fun" by having the fetch come out weaker and blurrier the less shiny an object is. Now my brain's going off thinking about how a house-pest exterminator that specializes in fetch removal might do their business...
given that being reflective is the only requirement how about the eye of creatures with non-magical dark vision? it could be something as inconspicuous as a cat, but for high level characters you could spice encounters up by putting a fetch in something like the eye of a dragon and by meeting its gaze you get jumped by the fetch without the dragon even knowing its happening, now the party has to content with a dragon while one of them is getting hit with necrotic damage every turn, thinking the dragon is doing it.
I'm just gonna have them be a common monster in the mirror zone from Tasha's Cauldron. Also, nah. If it's one fetch and a whole party looking at the mirror, it's gonna be an amalgamation of the party. May make it a special version of the fetch, but time will tell when I do or do not use this.
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All good. Funny enough, you kind of look like an extra from "8 Mile". Gotta get up on stage and do a rap battle that belittles your opponent.
Maybe we just need a D&D rap battle playlist.
You do realize that the Fetch is also a creature in Irish folklore. Naming it Fetch is literally Wizards of the Coast naming it what it is actually called. This creature was not invented by them. They just simply reused the idea.
U might want to look up folklore on this creature. WOD also has some good material on it.
Can these things travel through eyes
Idea for it using a lake: if the party "sees" it pull someone under, make sure to describe the water not moving in the slightest. After all, it's not pulling something _under,_ but _through._
An idea I had for this is that the fetch is actually the result of a mortal becoming a vampire. Since vampires loose their reflection, what actually happens to it? Well the reflection becomes hungry just as it's mortal counterpart, however the fetch desires the flesh that it no longer has rather than blood.
That’s a really really cool idea
omg genious bro, i'm stealing this smart ass idea X)
this gives me the idea of a Fetch working WITH it's former host, the Fetch acting as the vampire's reflection, letting what passes for muscle memory for them work through moving alongside the vampire.
Then, when the Vampire attacks and has drained their victim, they toss the now lifeless corpse towards the mirror, where the Fetch reveals itself, and consumes the remains.
@@CyColt I love this idea. May I use it?
@@FuryMcpurey all of my idea's are free use unless stated otherwise.
A pair of lovers gaze into each other's eyes... and in the iris one of them sees their reflection give a cruel grin
Holy $#!+!!
That is horrifying
GASSSS
Am I too late to tell you that you're just plain evil? I love it
That is appropriately cruel and twisted for a demon. Quite a chilling way to mock love.
It's very fitting that the "Fetch" was suggested by someone named "Pavlov."
Nice
You should fear his "Belly Rub" monster. Its a horrid Eldritch abomination.
@@eros5420 it rubs the inside of your belly, right? xD
i don't get it
@@foxsecret en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Pavlov
i'm sure you've been told already, but it's called a "fetch" because it's inspired by an old Irish folklore creature with the same name, which does pretty much the same thing. most DND monsters with names like this have a similar problem
I genuinely adore the idea of a fetch staring out of the paladin's armor or the warrior's shield. Maybe not even targeting the party, instead treating them as an easy protection for its feeding door.
Could even twist the lore a bit and make a Fetch the Warlock's patron, requiring a number of victims be "delivered" to its doorstep as part of its bargain.
That’s a terrible thing to do to your party…
I love it. 😈😈😈
Next party member with a breastplate is getting a companion they don’t know about now. 😈😈😈
Imagine having one of these bound to look out through a mirrored shield or suit of armour worn by the BBEG
I would laugh very hard if it also ended up being by pure coincidence and then there’s this awkward moment where the bbeg is like, “wait, what the heck is going on I didn’t plan thi-… I mean yeah, now my invisible minion is going to get you all!”
Lmao
or unknowingly having one of these in your own shield and pointing it at an enemy
I made a spell my wizard made up called Mirror Stride that's like Tree Stride combined with Transport Via Trees but working on mirrors. I think it could have some fun interactions with the Fetch.
Maybe that’s how he gets the fetch’s attention
@@stingerjohnny9951 and posably becomes fetch food
Have the Fetch slowly develop an obsession with the Wizard trying to turn the Wizard into one of it's own so it can have a companion. Basically have the Fetch being a lonely outcast trying to make a family for itself using misguided methods.
@@KebaRPG both cute and scarry. mice
...I love this idea
I think another way of doing negative levels from 2e in 5e might be having its touch attack give its victim 1d4 levels of exhaustion.
Exhaustion is definitely emote of a 1 to 1 for negative levels if you want to try and keep the threat super dangerous and capture the feel of the original monster. Solid idea!
That or have it do ability damage like the shadow would also be fitting
definitly not with the "old" exhaustion system of lvl 3 being reaaaaally evil and 6 instant death,
but maybe with the new "One D&D" system where each lvl gives you a -1 to everything. So at exhaustion 3 you get -3 to attacks, saving throws and ability checks etc.... that could be a fun option
@DSA rgus you really don't like game combat that actually challenges you, huh? The "Old" exhaustion system was fine, because the first level only gave disadvantage on ability checks, which was meaningless in combat. So you usually had to fail 2 consecutive saving throws before it actually affected you. As far as "6 is instant death" that's not instant, at all, because you have to fail 6 different times to get to that point. Is it more likely to actually kill you, then most things in the game? Sure, on the rare occasion you meet an enemy that causes the condition. But you're still given multiple chances to avoid that. If you die from exhaustion, it's because you refused to take any steps to fix the problem, probably refused to take any actions to heal yourself or back away from the front line, because you'd rather maximize DPR, and then complained when your choices had consequences
@@agentchaos9332 Chill. Looking at the old stat block, the fetch can make two attacks, each delt 2 neg levels, and there is no save. That means if this was to be used on the 5e exhaustion than the target is dead in three rounds if all attacks hit. Negative levels is more of a 1 to 1 with the new Exhaustion rules. Also how do you heal exhaustion wise guy? Aggressive and wrong. My fav.
This creature is one of the reasons why Glitterdust needs to still be in Dnd for 5e, especially if you take the run away route at first. You end up being able to see it covered in glitter, that it can't get rid of. Glitterdust is one of my favorite spells....its literally just magical glitter
One of my favorite quest modules is Mad Manor of Astabar. It's a quest through a spooky mansion with a lot of magic hijinks. I was running a rendition of this for one of my campaigns, but had a banshee be the final boss of the dungeon. She has an attic area filled with mirrors that she kept warping through. Eventually the players realized if they started breaking mirrors, they could limit her mobility.
The Fetch gives me strong JOJO vibes. Something about how esoterical and creepy it is scratches that right itch for me.
I totally agree! It reminds me a lot of mirror man of course, but just in general it feels like something from that world.
for a good reason, its very reminiscent of the hanged man from part 3
@@G.T.L.2001 I think we can count Man in the Mirror as well since he drag his victims to inside the mirror as well.
I'm staring with the man in the mirror
I was gonna make a joke about this
I love the Fetch, I love vanity monsters and mirror creatures, too bad real world mythology doesn’t have any cool mirror monsters, Bloody Mary, Ungaikyo, and the Flagae don’t count, they are vague or don’t catch the idea I’m after. The Irish Fetch is more like a Doppelganger, no mirrors involved.
I like how they're portrayed in the Dresden files, pretty similar to what's described here, exept they're Fae, and instead of looking like their victims, they take on the form of something the victim fears
@@agentchaos9332 a creature that is so formless the mind just inatly gives it a form of your worst fear for this THING is worse than even that fear but your mortal mind cant comprehend anything more. but you feel it is.
@@agentchaos9332 which book is the fetch in?? 😊 I just got through the first one Storm Front yesterday haha
In old traditions, covering the mirrors in a house that a funeral wake was being held in was done to prevent the soul of the dead being trapped in them.
@@lechking941Wait so...this is what they were fighting in Ghostbusters?
I love the Fetch and it’s been a long term monster in my world and why there are so many superstitious about mirrors 😀
Thank you so much for share this
Thank you so much for watching! 😁
Is it weird that I kinda hope we never get through all the monsters? I love these videos.
The fetch was a kind of changeling in mythology, I believe.
“It wouldn’t use a puddle on the middle of a forest”
Flood happens, lake the Fetch was possessing dried up to a degree and it’s mirror became a small bog which was being kept cool by it.
So now instead of a lake that a Fetch can drag people into- and when people look for where the person was dragged in there is no body there… now it’s a small swamp in a forest which rain happens which allows water to stream out and the Fetch follow along with said water, meaning it can now drag people down through the grass.
Imagine a Fetch mirroring you and just emerging out of a lake, a swamp, or your flooded front yard through the grass.
This whole channel is so underrated it hurts.
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FYI, WOTC didn't name the fetch. It took it's name from a real life mythical creature. I want to say it was Irish mythology, and it was kinda sorta the same as the origins of doppelganger myths (which are varied and often nothing like the dnd version). Now you know. And knowing is half the battle. Go Joe!
Love the idea of the fetch coming back later,
"I'm telling you! I just ran out the mirror, didn't you see?!" Everyone thinks they're crazy, Then later they get attacked by an invisible force.
Oh, THAT’S why the teleporting/plane-hopping shadow-people in Pathfinder are called “fetchlings”!
IT's all coming together
I love the idea of the party pulling a sheet off of an old mirror and you pull out a stopwatch.
"What are you doing?"
"Don't worry about it." *Click*
Never before has the color spray spell seemed so usefull.
If anyone needs a good idea for how the Fetch can work in terms of reflective surfaces, I highly recommend checking out the Hanged Man fight in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Either that or the aptly named Man in the Mirror fight.
If we do end up getting a 5e Dragonlance book, I'm hoping to see this monster in it.
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Love the style on this video as opposed to older stuff- it lends itself to a more fun and intimate atmosphere.
Same here; I also enjoyed this one's casual feel while relating solid details
This would make a good enemy for a horror plot, especially in a modern fantasy plot.
A knight polishing his armour till he saw his reflection clearly, he smiled, but that smile soon faltered.
His reflection seemed....off. It was starting back at him with a twisted grin that spread from ear to ear.
An Irish monster with a lot of possibilities
This reminds me a lot of the Skulk from Mordenkainen tome of foes
Since I had JoJo on the brain from all the "mirror" stuff, I'm distinctly reminded of an enemy using the reflective surface of a coin and a person's eye.
I'm not sure how one is dragged through either a coin or an eye ball, but I don't think it's a pretty mental image either way.
That was the stand "Hanged Man"
@@hsalfesrever3554 This monster is basically a mixture of "Hanged Man" and "Man in the Mirror". I really love that idea.
"Outside of magic means or super natural powers, you ain't going to see it"
Level 1 Fighter with blind fighting *laughs
A Fetch is a concept from Irish folklore, a sort of ominous doppelganger apparition. It wasn't named by a D&D game designer (tho the monster doesn't seem to hold a lot of resemblance to the folkloric thing)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetch_(folklore)
The "plane for literally everything" sounds like a splendid idea. Is it possible to get a video spitballing about some weird, oddly specific planes? The first that came to my mind are the butter, door and hatchet planes but maybe there are some absolute gems I'm not thinking about
Geometric Plane: A plane of logic and regularity as far removed from the Plane of Order as the Plane of Order is from the Prime Material. The Platonic Ideals (or the equivalent, depending on the name of your universe's Plato) actually exist as real things in this plane (e.g. _The_ Triangle, of which all other triangles are but imperfect replicas).
Cob Plane: To blatantly rip off Rick and Morty: in this plane, _everything_ is "-on-a-cob". _Including_ the cobs that things are on. It's cobs all the way down _and_ up. The only thing keeping the plane itself from being -on-a-cob is that the plane's cobbish influence does not penetrate into the interplanar medium. A few extraplanar entities know _why_ this limitation exists, but they refuse to talk about it.
Fractal Plane: Somewhere between the previous two planes. "Larger" and "Smaller" are just directions you can move in, like "Down" or "Clockwise". Areas, entities, and events repeat, but the details subtly change in each repetition depending on the direction of travel.
Just an idea and not intended to make this that much more terrifying, but what if it appears in the reflection in a person's eye?
Rust Dragons were always one of my absolute favorites but get very little attention.
Lol a fiend pact warlock lol and echo knight.
When you summon your duplicate from echo. It crawls out from your shiny shield, breastplate, whatever. Lol and looks at the abilities fiend mimic what the Fetch can do. Lol
So a guy made a pact with a Fetch in exchange for his life/soul he would offer others to them. But as a reminder of the pact, his echo looks gaunt like a Fetch version of the PC. Lmao
Of the flavor. Lmao
Dude! An oathbreaker paladin or warlock has made a deal with a Fetch. They walk around with a mirror shield (like legend of zelda) and whenever they enter combat the fetch joins combat with that villain by exiting through the mirror shield. Instantly make the villain more mysterious and scary.
GRETCHEN! I am so happy you frontloaded that reference bc I was wondering if it was gonna come up.
It was literally the first thing that popped into my head hahaha
Hmmm, what monster should I put in my dark fantasy campaign?
This video: “🎶I’m starting with the man in the mirror!🎶”
The artwork at 9:00 has a goose staring like a predator at the party as they walk by. It's stalking them. Waiting for an opportune moment to strike.
The REAL Monster of the Week.
Goddamn, that road trip Calimshan sure had some memorable enemies.
I was thinking about a fetch using the reflection in a person’s eyes.
Just imagine how scarring for onlookers seeing someone dragged into a person's eye
I'm not too knowledgeable on DND and just started looking into it. Would it be possible to make a deal with a fetch as a warlock, connecting it to a mirror shield or very polished shield, in exchange for magical items/victims? Might be quite overpowered but would be a cool bargain to make for a unique companion.
I could imagine some kind of moster using or wearing something big and reflective to essentially summon Fetchs to aide them in combat like the Mirror Knight in Dark Souls 2
Whenever I hear about the fetch I can't stop imagining a scenario in which the adventuring party has lost one of their friends, and they need true resurrection. Magic like that is almost impossible to find, especially on short notice. The party hears about a sect of wild men that can commune with an old God known to be fond of mortals, but these wild men are strange, they run through the forest cackling, completely naked, rolling about, wrestling and dancing, speaking riddles and jokes, gorging themselves on raw meat and swamp water, seemingly not getting ill.. despite hearing all this the party sets out to find them, upon finding these wild men maybe you have them perform a task or two, a favor for a favor, and once the tasks are done they'll let the party commune with the god. The party does this, they commune with the god, since the God is chaotic good, and is fond of mortals, there's more than happy to resurrect their friend.... If it will settle a little wager with them. A trial, I'm still trying to fully flesh out the trial but I know that it will take place in a madhouse, filled with mirrors, the floors damp with just enough water to see their heels reflected back at them. The goal of the trial? Simple, reach the end, that's it.
But it might be hard figuring out the mirror maze when you're being stalked by a vile fetch, and what's that?! the party hears the pitter patter of, what sounds like, bare feet accompanied by soft cackles in the distant dark of the monstrous mirror maze. (You guessed it, the naked wild men are back, and they're hungry for raw meat and merryment.)
Not that I think my OC is good or anything, but if you're inspired by any of it, feel free to take it and use it. 😅
I've been looking for a monster to haunt a party on a mountaintop climb and came across this video! Thanks for the inspiration and tactics ideas
...I won't mention the "Hanged Man" Stand from Stardust Crusaders if you guys don't.
This is the greatest channel on DnD on YT. PURE GOLD. THANK YOU
I love this channel, as a new DM I've loved watching your videos for unique ideas for plot hooks and things even if they're cool ideas I think I'll have to save for when my players are higher level! This is the first one I've implemented and I used this very recently in my campaign which is loosely based off of Lost Mines of Phandelver as it's my first time DMing and my players are all new to dnd (5 of them), and it was the most terrified my players had been of dying. They had recently dispatched a young green dragon with ease and I thought this would be a fun little encounter in a mine - I described a mirror with a sheet over it with a note scrawled beneath it in the handwriting of a madman. One player said they want to look at the mirror so I asked if they're looking at it or in it, they got suspicious and said they were looking at it, but another player, the rogue, said how they wanted to look in it. As I went into detail describing their twisted reflection clawing them from behind, I horrifyingly rolled two natural 20s for its attacks. I had to fudge the damage rolls slightly, as while I've said death is possible I thought an instant death like that is um a little unfair, so the rogue "only" took 32 points of necrotic damage so as not to instantly go unconscious (the party had very little healing left). The druid smashed the mirror as she thought that was hiding the monster only to realise it was the only way to see it from the rogue's perspective, but luckily had faerie fire for the next round as the rogue survived on about 4 hp. It was incredibly stressful for them but a very entertaining and memorable encounter from something little :)
Spoilers for dimension 20 live:
Holy shit I just realised that Baron from Dimension 20 is totally based of a fetch! I mean that makes total sense since Brennan is such as dnd nerd.
A few Monster ideas.
Change Cat: 1e grey hawk hardcover. A cat that can turn into a cheetah.
Siv: 3e Monsters of Faerun book. Frog men monks.
I'm binge-watching all your videos. What a blast from the past, so many I had as a young lad.
I love this one, so much potential. In the past I personally run it as a monster from the plane of mirrors, bounded to a powerful evil merchant crime lord who used it as his personal assassin to kill the competition. A nice hook for a "closed room" mystery. I also added that it can teleport around using reflective surfaces, so it can literally punch the warrior through his sword, like the Spider-man villain The Spot.
I remember a monster in the old iron kingdoms game that something similar. But it went after people's eyes instead. It would pop out of a reflective surface and take out a person's eye with a spoon and wear it. If you had pretty eyes it would come back for the second eye. That was your only chance/time to get your other eye back
Fetch is the Gaelic term for a changeling. literally the thing that lives your life for you in CTL in the CofD lore.
I'm going to make this a magic item. A Cyclops' Petrified Eye, whoever looks into it feeds the Cyclops, trying to rebuild its body, the Fetch just uses the eye to make more Fetches since it's being used as a weapon.
Gives a whole new aspect to the basic 'fetch' quest so popular in MMO's
As a man who mains sorcerer. I feel attacked by the absolutely true statement about fireball
Imagine you are a Wizard knowing of the existence of "Fetches", so you craft a mirrored cube that is designed to capture them:)
Another idea with that is you provide/insist the party always keeps their armor polished mirror bright and/or keep a Mirror on hand so no matter what they can see them.
Interesting, with that said another option for a fetch (used in White wolf changling the lost
and after a folklore story:
Young lady hears odd work in the basement of her house in the night, goes downstairs (far down), hears Goblins create a doll in her likeness ("she has such legs, she has such a head") and their master intends to kidnap her. She gets scared and escapes home, maybe a dream?)
Is to make them an exchange / changling (fey creature, a doll made to act as the kids / victims and the real kids / victims are in a fey nobels court).
Ah man that’s a pretty brilliant use of the fetch for sure
Thank you for the idea! 🤩Can't wait to throw it on my players hehe
Running an Exandria campaign and the party is about to be harassed by the spirit of Vespin Chloras hunting them from reflective surfaces. I absolutely used this as a guide for that stat block!
For a creature like this, I would go for a direct death save roll as the damage of their attack.
This is the kind of creature designed to throw at characters above 15th or at least 10th level. At these levels it's impossible to continuously provide a challenge through standard combat. This gives a very different challenge to the party.
One where the wrong decisions will actually lead to death.
these are the stakes of the game, the only way to properly do this in 5e is to utilize the death saving throw as damage. They get three and can easily outrun this creature so no one can say it's unfair.
Either way I deeply appreciate your lore and conversions, you are helping my campaign design in so many ways ^_^
Have a wonderful day bud
Good call including an image of the mirror monster from Scooby-Doo, I always found it unsetlling. That's also a much better name, written by some people who probably spent very little time thinking of a name for it because you know they had TV shows to write.
I actually know the Fetch from fairy folklore as a changeling type thing, where its a log enchanted to look like a person whose been abducted by the fae
Thats a good one. We have something similar in Scandinavian folklore as well.
I nominate the Steel Dragon. I used to use this in my campaign world and it was a wonderful "monster" that I used to slowly take over a kingdom - benevolently.
As he was rattling off reflective surfaces I saw the shiny af tuning screws on my guitar. I'm totally making one come out of a bards lute
Reminds me of the reflection agents from infinity train, now that show used poping out of mirrors great!
Man you gotta be one of my new favourite dnd youtubers, keep it up! This and the false hydra video are amazing!
Love listening to your channel why'll cleaning the house,it's like have an audio book being read to me,but also cuz I'm taking a break from binge watching Critical Role campaign 1.
Oooohhh!! So this is where Baron aka Romaencé partner from fantasy high comes from! Very cool
regarding your rant, to quote Order of the Stick: "The more mundane the monster's name is, the most eldritch and scary it is" :p
So it is invisible and it disguises as others… THAT FETCH IS A BLOODY SPY!
Researching Fetch is a fetch quest of its own.
Oh, I know this creature from the AD&D collector card set from the early 1990s. Lots of obscure monsters in that. Not to mention all the neat character cards (and a surprising amount of trans-representation for the time).
If you want to be insidious have a Fetch and a Medusa like creature team up. No matter what they won't be safe.
Reflective surfaces being the portals it uses could be used for extreme paranoia. Breaking a mirror only makes many smaller mirrors, and even your eyes give off a reflective glint. Imagine a low level party trying to hide from reflections to avoid this thing, only to look into their companion's eyes and see the Fetch looking back.
I Love the concept of the Fetch! I have been thinking of running a Haunted Mansion and it works so freaking well... I just have one question: If let's say, one of the victims in despair broke a mirror in which the portal resigned after the Fetch came through... do the Fetch needs a new portal to go through? Or the many reflective shards now all count as portals for it? Does the portal actually need to be big enough to drag the body?
I think if the shards of the mirror are too small to fit through it would have to creat a new portal
@@DungeonDad one of the artwork literally shows it coming out a hand mirror. It was worth the try
Ok. This was sick as hell. Thanks for showing this.
ROFL.. I was in the middle of hitting my apple bowl (aka ineffable apple bowl) when you said
"A lot of bards are gonna die to this creature..."
I cracked up laughing for while. Funny cause it's true.
I bet the bagman and the fetch would be good friends
Awesome fun video and beautifully presented. As a note I too confuse Elves and chickens when it comes to reproduction... OK maybe not
Thanks so much! And yeah, elves are always doing stuff but being extra about it, much like chickens
"Proper encounters with the Fetch." So, a Fetch Quest?
"You do not recognise the bodies in the water" but its an army of fetches waiting for you to make the wrong move and get close
Oh shoot, it’s like the monster from It Follows, but you only have to *see it* to be targeted. That’s absolutely terrifying 0_o
Good observation, it’s exactly like that! It would be so cool to have the party trying to help out an NPC who is claiming that their being chased by something only they can see
Everybody gangsta until a Fetch emerges from their companions eye.
Witchlin and fetch makes my former Dragonlance playing self eyes twitch a little in fear
I think the best part about jumping out of any reflective surfaces... It can jump out of eyes
XD that would be so crual for you pcs omg,, but since they could just close them... a blink would unable him to attack
Awesome vid. Very obscure and awesome beast
You should look up the Nera from 3.5! They're the denizens of the Plane of Mirrors, and wielded these special daggers that would cut so perfectly, the target would suffer profusely-bleeding wounds.
You could just be walking by, you player checks their hair AND BOOM gotcha. Dead. Just like that the wizard got snatched
The Fetch, one of the coolest monsters I love to use, albeit rather sparingly, so as to not take away the horror of the thing. One of my absolute favorite AD&D monsters 😊.
Fetch is actualy the name of a monster from Irish folklore, although in Irish folklore the fetch is closer to a doppelganger or a banshee, a portent of doom, visible only to the one it portents the doom of
If you see yourself out there, and nobody else can see them, you've found a fetch
This would make for such a wonderfully frightening encounter. Imagine the party is exploring some long-abandoned castle, accompanied by a few more adventurer NPCs and they come to a hallway full of mirrors. As they walk down the hallway, one of the NPCs says "Hey, what is...." but when they all look back toward him, he is gone. As they stand there confused as to where he went, one of the other NPCs suddenly says "Wow, what is tha...." and he disappears before they can turn around. Now the party is on edge. Then, if the DM wants to, as the last push over the edge, they hear a scream and look back in time to see another NPC being dragged through one of the mirrors. 😈
Imagine taking a piss and the fetch kills you and drags you into your own piss because it made. Reflection
14:17 Demon lords hiring fetches as interplanar assassins and paying them in magic items raises the possibility of encountering a fetch which has done a few jobs in the past for a demon lord and is now _equipped with one or more magic items,_ in addition to their natural abilities.
Concept: the size of the fetch in the mortal world varies depending on the size of the mirrored surface they come through. So a fetch that comes through a regular standing mirror is human-sized, but a fetch that comes through a very reflective lake is like, the size of a giant.
The only reason we see objects at all is due to visible light reflecting off surfaces and going straight into our eyeballs...so a fetch could pop out of *anything* if reflection is the only requirement.
(let's not even go into the rest of the EM spectrum)
This is what being a level 20 DM looks like
@@DungeonDad Shucks ☺ Also, you could make it more "fun" by having the fetch come out weaker and blurrier the less shiny an object is.
Now my brain's going off thinking about how a house-pest exterminator that specializes in fetch removal might do their business...
given that being reflective is the only requirement how about the eye of creatures with non-magical dark vision?
it could be something as inconspicuous as a cat, but for high level characters you could spice encounters up by putting a fetch in something like the eye of a dragon and by meeting its gaze you get jumped by the fetch without the dragon even knowing its happening, now the party has to content with a dragon while one of them is getting hit with necrotic damage every turn, thinking the dragon is doing it.
I'm just gonna have them be a common monster in the mirror zone from Tasha's Cauldron. Also, nah. If it's one fetch and a whole party looking at the mirror, it's gonna be an amalgamation of the party. May make it a special version of the fetch, but time will tell when I do or do not use this.