Sam's Trains FOULED By Aliexpress | The Worst Loco Ever
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มิ.ย. 2024
- I was fouled by Aliexpress when I spent a fortune on an old, second hand, and absolutely awful shunting locomotive!
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0:00 Intro
4:08 Unboxing
6:12 "Detail"
11:02 "Mechanism"
13:55 "Performance"
16:29 Haulage
22:32 Ratings
25:37 Final Thoughts - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
What you've got there, mate, has been a staple of American starter layouts for over 70 years. Alongside the 0-4-0 Docksider saddletank, it is probably the most common first locomotive bought for children just getting into the hobby. There's been a few versions and makes through the years; Athearn, Model Power, Tyco. It's cheap, it's nasty, but it's how 99% of us got started.
Edit: 80 bloody quid for that?! Were you drunk? Did you lose a bet?
My Varney Docksider "Little Joe" could pull about eight streamline cars around my layout. The addition of some of Walthers' lost-wax castings really dressed it up (in my imagination).
My first loco back around 1960. It was yellow, an Athearn I think
The majority of the cost was probably shipping, given the list price he found was 37.
I wonder how many also got totally dismayed with model railroading after trying one of these and never went any further in the hobby
@@anthonymiller8979 That brings back memory's from my childhood of trains that would not start, and when finally coaxed, just flat out, then guaranteed to derail.
I’ve got one of these in a Pennsylvania Railroad livery. After 20+ years of use it still runs like a champ
Blimey that's good to hear - what brand was that under??
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@SamsTrains back in the day, the original model was a rubber band drive all wheel drive. Originally came out in the 60s I believe. They were cheap models but the original band drive models were insanely fast, often derailing at full speed and flinging themselves across the basement
@@SamsTrains It’s under the Model Power brand like the one in your review. I’d say it’s from the 80’s and was handed down to me from my brother. Apart from the rear coupler being broken it’s in very good condition. It does stink up the room after I run it for a while
@@dannagy546the Athearn Hustlers were amazing, I turned mine into a Railroad drag racer!
@@batmangamer3122 oh that sounds hysterical! Did you add any flame decals?
Hey! I have an idea. Instead of destroying the locomotive, you can use it as a scrap scene and set it up in a boneyard. Superglue the axles and make it look all rusty and abandoned, maybe with scrappers cutting away at it.
Hornby says," Thank you, AliExpress!"
hahahaha!!
@@SamsTrains oh this is funny, for some reason Sam’s laughter gave me a google prompt to translate it to English, and clicking on it simply capitalised the “H” in hahahahaha!
@@Alpha-oo8hahahaha!!
很好！
@@SamsTrains make the motor fail!
The reason for the odd 'bulb+LED' combo is that white LEDs are quite a recent development electronically. Red were the earliest to exist.
You sure did get hustled.
haha sure did!!
@@SamsTrainsI wanted to say this is a vintage American model train also you got scamed by the guy who's selling it
I was appalled that the box omitted the unique feature of " creates a smell like burning scalextric and urine" and went with "extra duty" instead
I know... that's a feature they could've marketed!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
The original Hustlers were produced by Athearn with a metal chassis with an outside frame and rubber band drive on both axles. The frame was easily split to install new rubber bands. At a then USD price of 4.99 or less, these speed demons could launch themselves off the layout in any curve. When Lionel got into HO scale in the early sixties they had a gear driven version. Both featured single trumpet horns on each side of the hood., the body was a tension fit. The later cloned MP versions were / are ideed rubbish.😢😂
I remember my Hustler and the speeds! I'd put it up against Sam's Speed trials any day. Regrettably, Athearn put the same awful drive in their F7's and GP-9's, with the resulting pulling power of a mouse.
Five bucks is about as much as this thing is worth lmao
Oh, this is a fascinating one. The tooling is from the 1960s (at the latest) and was originally sold by Marx. Marx was an American toy company that traditionally catered to the very bottom of the toy train market. The Marx switcher bore a striking resemblance to the even older Athearn Hustler, introduced in 1957. The Marx version has the full side skirts you see in this example.
I don't remember if Model Power ever actually sold this model but they probably did. Model Power was a clearing house brand that sold rebranded merchandise from other, usually foreign manufacturers. Their very best locomotives in the 1980s were made by Mehanno, who do reasonably good work at a low price point.
Sam did another video on a Aliexpress steam loco that was originally a Piko model.
@@itsconnorstime You ment 2!
I got one of those!!! I got one of the OG Marx engines in a Santa Fe livery, and despite its age, still runs like a champ all these years later haha
Thanks a lot for sharing some background - it's a very interesting situation! I am wondering what the story behind this knock-off was!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Somewhere I have the very same "Marx" made switcher you mean, and have had it since the 70's. Yes, this looks like a very poor copy of the Marx original.
🤣🤣This has all the hallmarks of a post-bottle of red wine on a Saturday night purchase.
These are for sale at our train shows for about $5 CAD (2.88GBP)
I will say one, tiny thing in its defense: the horn-hook coupler is supposed to spring to one side, not return to the center. That's how they stay locked together.
I'm pretty sure that this is the latest incarnation in a long line of similarly cheap and nasty Hustler "models". You reviewed a rubber band drive switcher some time back which might be related to it - or maybe not, I'm not going to bother tracking that information down right now.
Thanks for sharing - it did seem to work okay to be fair!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
The 'EXTRA DUTY LOCO" line, rather than 'Heavy Duty' on the box made me laugh pretty hard
hahaha I know!! ;D
Should be spelled “doody”
EXTRA DUTY LOCO and only one axle is powered.
I'm glad this loco has 'opened your eyes' because, did you even look at the picture on the website? It was so clearly a piece of cheap tat; no added detail, unpainted wheels and a less than convincing appearance. I thought you were going to say that it turned out to be clockwork!
The dark opening... lol.
haha!! xD
These are at least 30 years old.
Oh yeah at least - probably much more - you can tell by the look of the molding!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Think mid 60s originally
30? Try 60.
The design is reproduced from a Marx toy train set from about 1952 when Marx trains began using plastic shells. Southern Pacific was one of their railroads offered. Lots of other companies used the molds over the years. Model Power, Tyco, Athearn, etc. Kind of nice to see these still being made, but obviously they are toys. To compare them to a modern model locomotive is unfair.
wonder if Sam knew this literally is the tooling of the first ever ready to run HO scale train. You can find these in the US usually for $2. Shell is pre WWII.
And slight correction. Most model train wheels are nickel plated brass.
Sam I have a box of left handed screwdrivers for sale. They are yours for the bargain price of 89.99 plus 10.99 postage and packing. A bargain!
Do they come with the attractive odor?
love it
Don't for get to throw in the dehydrated water.
Here’s an idea: take a long segment of straight track, set it up to go out a window, then send that piece of junk out said window at full power
When mum says: "We already have model trains at home"
As the only real down to earth model railway reviewer who will go out of the way to bring us videos of extreme products I can wholeheartedly say I feel for you, this is a proper pants down promotion! I kind of know how you feel because I felt the same way when Hornby tucked me up a while back, what doesn’t destroy you makes you stronger, you will be rewarded in the future and look back and laugh, thanks for sharing.
Not right after the Broadway Limited Blue Goose 😭
Can't see much difference. They're both US cr*p.
haha yeah - quite a contrast!! ;D
From the Blue Goose to… this. Whatever ‘this’ is. Gosh. This channel’s a rollercoaster, Sam 😂
I don’t own any trains, I’ve never had an interest in ever having a model railway but your videos are some of my favourite on TH-cam. I consider myself a collector by proxy through your account. I really enjoyed this review, made me laugh a lot
Sam, its okay to admit you bought this after a night of way too much drinking at the pub😂
Good video Sam it’s a bit sad you got scammed. But for future reference I believe those couplings are known as horn hook couplings which are meant to point towards the right hand side.
We actually called them NMRA couplers, but the Association always disowned them.
As others have mentioned, the body was developed by toy company Marx in the 50’s. After they went out of business, the tooling went to Mehano, and they made a cheaper chassis to sell these as cheap starter models through AHM, Model Power and Bachmann. The chassis has continued getting cheaper through the years, swapping metal axles for plastic, a 5-pole motor for a 3-pole and then an even cheaper 3-pole, dropping the nickel plating, and then swapping the lead weights for zinc. Model Power was the last company who dared to sell these along with the much worse Playart 2-6-0 and other very cheap models with old tooling.
Looks absolutely ancient. I would imagine Ali Express purchased some new, old stock from some forgotten warehouse. Model Power has a pretty dismal reputation here in the U.S. known for producing poor quality, unreliable (i.e. junk) rolling stock and locos
It's great of you to review a "cheap an nasty" from time to time, it shows your lighter side and gives us a chuckle or two.
Hi Sam!
Model power went bust in 2014, much of its stock got sold off to 3rd parties before the company was bought by MRC then Lionel. That said, this locomotive, which came from Marx who were bought out by model power and was never updated, was clearly built many years before, as noted by the horn hook couplers that it came with, these went out with the early 90's and were the one exception, as well as the wear and tear on the packaging and the smell, old dried out brushes. Also, in case you were wondering when I said Lionel bought model power, remember that derailing Lionel army hospital trainset you reviewed? Yes that's right, its coaches came right from model power's catalog, with the exception of metal wheels.
Those wasp stripes look like the results of the double slit experiment if the unobserved photons were on steroids 💀💀💀
It is a model power shunter. They used to be about 25$.
Was thinking the same - I bought the steam outline equivalent, very akin to the USATC S100 switcher/shunter from WW2 but as an 0-4-0T, brand-new for roughly £15 in about 2005. The diesel outline Sam has, and the 'Plymouth' version with a lower bonnet, were listed at the same price.
Aha! An old Railway Modeller magazine I have to hand shows me the UK distributor I bought that from would've been Shrewsbury Model Centre, showing "Li'l Tugger" (the steam loco), Plymouth DDT, and this Porter Hustler all listed at £9.99 plus £2 postage in August 1999.
the tooling was actually owned by MARX Louis toys, A company that produced budget toy trains compared to Lionel in O and HO scale
Yeah that's what I found too - I really got done with this one!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
One of the most amusing reviews I've seen for anything. I'm half wanting a video on seeking out and comparing the worst possible "models", a sort of what is the worst that money can buy series.
Thanks Sam, obviously you're not happy about being fouled but it was a great video
I got a lot of laughs out of this video, and yes I watched all the way to the end. I particularly enjoyed your use of the word 'foul', as in 'It looked foul.', 'It smelled foul.', etc. I'm just sorry it cost you so much. But I did enjoy the video, it was very funny. 😂
That title says that i have a cozy new video to enjoy this evening!
Thank you sam for providing me with such!
IIRC Model Power went out of business in 2014. They sold some decent N scale stuff, but their HO range was mostly junk that had been in production since the 1960s.
I use your reviews for buying choices mainly, Sam. This one however was merely splendidly funny 😂 I love the way you can’t help giggling!
Wow! From the Blue Goose to this. A world of extremes indeed.
this was worth watching to the end, it was like so bad i had to keep going! well done and glad you did it so noone else has too.
I really wish you wouldnt give away how the loco is in the title. One of my favourite aspects of your videos is going on the journey, making the discoveries with you.
Sorry! Got to use engaging titles in order to make the channel work!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains i understand the reason behind it. Titles can be engaging without giving away the outcome.
The thing is a lot of people are going to search TH-cam for reviews of a particular product and if the name isn't in the title it won't show up.
@@caw25sha i dont mean the name of the product. I mean the outcome of the review. "Brilliant", "terrible" ect
@SamsTrains are you sure?
What might be interesting would be a side by side comparison of that loco with the Triang Docklands shunter. From some of the other comments it would appear the designs hark from a similar period.
If it makes you feel any better, I've bought a medium-sized Sam's Trains T-shirt from the Bullman Emporium. I've chosen the sapphire blue colour. I've been wanting one for some time. Also, I've taken my first step into the N Gauge Railway world. I'm a tad nervous about handling the tiddly-fiddly track and Guard's Van I've bought from two different places. I'm afraid of causing damage by mistake. Uh, is it too much to ask if I could have a modeller's guide to N Gauge track, engines and rolling stock?
easy, Buy Kato or Tomix track
@@grrfy I've already bought Graham Farish track. That's cheaper yet still 100% good quality.
The cab houses the traction motor 😂😂😂😂😂
great work another great video keep them coming
Sam, most of us from America grew up with these horrid all plastic toys. You can buy them for less than five dollars in the U.S. Sorry you paid so much for such a lowly product!
haha I know - once I found that it was Model Power I was able to look it up... and I saw how cheap they were!! ;D
Model Power was a starter for kids that want to start the model train hobby
And you have to wonder how many were turned off by the experience
@@ROBERTNABORNEY RIGHT!!!!
That Model Power loco likely dates back to the early 1990s which is why the box was so beaten up. The design with modifications dates back to the 1970s, perhaps 1960s by PMI.
Yeah it does look like it was made years ago!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Rather than being wired backwards, is the loco intended to be operated cab first, like a British Class 08?
Sam, don’t forget to salvage the metal knuckle coupler out of this thing before you toss it; the coupler is worth more than the entire locomotive! 😅
And the brass of course . . .
He could break it down for parts: the light bulb, the red LED, the motor, even the brass wheels could be used on non-powered rolling stock.
Not a really prototypical model of a Porter industrial switcher (Shunter). We call them “critters” here in the States. You would have been better off buying a Bachman 44-tonner or 45-tonner.
That looks like a Chinese knockoff of the Athern Hustler, which had all wheel drive powered by rubber bands. The motor is mounted longitudinally with extended output shafts where the flywheels would be mounted. The rubber bands were wrapped around the shafts to drive the axles which were almost as large as the wheels in diameter.
Made it to the end like usual Sam, this review was to amusing not to watch to the end after all!
Great video as always, Sam! I have actually got some quite nice stuff from model power but this really is terrible!
That's an ancient locomotive. We haven't used those type of couplers since I was a kid. Kadee couplers have been the default for many years, even on the cheapest models.
And since we don't use NEM pockets in America, they can't be replaced easily.
As soon as I heard the start music I new it would be a dramatic start of the video I love you content by the way Sam’s trains
Congrats on 153k
I've done stupid drunk purchases without realising what I was buying before, so I can see why you went for it 😂
This is definitely going on the 'Top 5 Worst Locomotives' list at the end of the year.
Is that a 3D-printed adapter coupler on the end of the accursed train?
What a piece of tat! This makes the hornby beatles train pack look like a premium train set! Awesome video sam, I always look forward to your amazing videos!🎉🎉
We just to have those all the way up to the 90s
I look forward to seeing this loco feature in your Christmas special this year, "The Little Train that Couldn't, Wouldn't, Shouldn't" 😊
Where you on the beers when you ordered that ?🤣
I wish I had enough room to setup my model railroad again. My neighbor actually built an entire building just for his setup.
if you put enough weight behind, will it run slow at one point or just wheel slip?
Wow that's dreadul! I've never seen something so bad - I'm shocked that you actually kept this!
Awesome video Sam's trains 😊
Take a shot every time Sam mentions Aliexpress lol 😂
And they say Ebay scams people. No cap, that diesel looks like an average toy train set engine but the least detail applied. Also it has been so long since I left a comment in your videos
I bought one in the noughties, it was £10 new. The model was regularly advertised in the UK modelling press as Bachmann USA. It's a very good runner, and great basis for customisation.
Blimey - I'm hearing that this has appeared under all kinds of brands!!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains On second thoughts it may have been Model Power. Bachmann USA sold a similar range of American outline diesels in the UK, that were a fraction of the price of similar British locos. The price is correct however.
I have the same model but in CN version. Run great but can barely pull 3 boxcars.
It will be part of a future project. Converting it to dcc,Add weight on it and make it capable to pull 7 hoppers. Simulating a little mining company shunter
It's like old Mehanotehnika (AHM for Yugoslav market) locomotive. If you have one of these 40 years old "models" like me, burning smell and loud noise of a motor is such a common thing.😂
Good for a chuckle Sam.
Ah yes. The athearn hustler. A 1950s loco that is still going strong even if it was under new names
I don't think I own any Model Power. 80 quid, that's way too much. I've now started collecting brass engines. Cheers from eastern TN
Well this has brass wheels so deserves a place in your collection 😅
I played with 2 or 3 of these as a kid from my dad's collection. His were rubber band driven, went super fast, and couldn't pull but 3 or 4 cars... when they worked.
I always enjoy the dramatic intros. Lol
I actually enjoyed this review - I found your indignation very entertaining!
is there locomotives on wich everything works , like engine fans cabin lights and all?
Drunk impulse purchase maybe? 😂
Omg i am shocked you spent £80 on a very bad train. I loved the start of the video well done 👍
As others have said, this is a very old design. I had one in the 60s, as a young teenager. Why did I have it, because I did not have much money, and it was very cheep, both in price and quality. It did run though for many years. The mechanism is the same, as well as the ozone smell. At some point they added the LED, after my time. I later found out that in addition to all the above, the body is actually closer to S scale, than HO. It always loomed over my other locomotives. Mine was the skirtless version with slide in frames/bearing sides.
i have a few of those but wheel sets are metal not brass and the horn is metal and they run great even after sitting for a while.
Thanks for sharing Jeff - I reckon this one was made on the cheap!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Sam, I ask this with no ill will, but were you drunk the night you bought this? I mean, 80 POUNDS?!
hahaha all I can say is I don't remember ordering it!! ;D
You'll have to turn it into a Steam Punk loco! Thanks for uploading.
I love these videos where Sam makes bitter remarks the whole time
Hey! And if I want this just because I want it in my collection?
Extra duty refers to an engine built specifically for double headers in shunting yards. Primarily is used to push mining trains down a branch line
That industrial switcher resembles a Plymouth to be honest. Porter DE35 is the closest 'Porter' locomotive I could find.
SP 6708 should be a GE U25B or GE U25BE ( depending on time period ).
Have you been drunk buying again! 😂😂😂
Great video! Man that is a odd locomotive.
Well, Sam, to be fair - one thing I find really admirable about this review (and I have to admit to binge-watching your content from time to time, outstanding work, mate!) is your ability to keep a straight face looking at this model railway equivalent of a bad case of herpes, in immortal words of Glenn Fricker. That's what I call a professional attitude. :D
I have a few Model Power units in my HO collection, and overall they’re pretty good starter units and they run pretty well. The little hustler unit looks to have come from the 80s.
The couplers are horn hook couplers, an old style of HO coupler used in the states and most of them were not centered due to the spring in them. Much of my rolling stock and older locomotives had these and I changed them out.
you know its bad when he says "Aliexpress"
hahaha!
That runs better than either of the two rapido 15XX panniers i had!! 😂
Better than that Dapol Class 121 which lasted 10 seconds before the drive shaft snapped.
do you have a link to this?
Back in the mid 90's my grandma surprised me with one of these we weren't very close so I was happy to get anything from her and most of my trains at the time were cheap Bachmann, Life Like, & old Tyco so it fit right in...
A bit of weathering and it will be museum quality 😂
can't wait to watch the worst trains of 2024 video!
now if you don't end up brutally murdering it in that video (which is highly unlikely given your thoughts on this) it would be fun to see you try to 3D print new parts for this or improve its mechanism to attempt to make it a presentable model. that would make for a fun video.
Got a gold Athern hustler used to put a paperclip with a track rubber behind it to whizz round to clean the track