Great video . Totally agree, the Chinese theatre of war during WW2 is really under explored. The army on the tabletop is also really diverse and it's a dream for kitbashers because of all the different gear you can draw upon.
They're a neat choice if you're into the weird, early war kit that didn't see a lot of use in other armies, too. I've got a T-26 I'm looking forward to painting up - something I'd never have wanted if I was looking to go up against a Pz IV or similar!
The Chinese Army in WW2 were always an interesting subject to me and I am glad to see you did a miniature of a soldier of that period. Thanks for sharing this very interesting tutorial.
It's a really interesting area of WWII that took me a long time to actually get around to investigating, and what a long story it is! The end of the civil war in 1949 marks almost forty years straight of constant conflict in China, from the initial revolution overthrowing the Imperial dynasty, the Warlord period, then the Japanese invasion of Manchuria... It's nuts just how long things went on for the average Chinese infantryman. The Chinese joining the Allies meant a hell of a lot of Japanese soldiers wouldn't end up fighting in the Pacific, which is good news for the Marines!
Remember when you were talking about adding History chats in with your painting videos? This is an excellent example of why you should do it. Not only did I get a painting lesson, but a history lesson. And maybe that will lead to me painting uncommon figures from other eras/armies. It’s win/win/win! Thanks again and Cheers 🍻
Great episode. I really like when you get into the weeds about where you get the historical sources for your colors. I admit that I'm not as picky when I'm choosing between two different shades of green or brown, but I love to hear you talk about your process.
It's pretty crazy how far it's possible to go sometimes in search of the 'right' colours, even when it's a fairly broad range of possibilities! I like to at least be in the realm of Hollywood accurate, for the most part. I figure reenactors are a safe bet there!
Cheers, Josh! I think I've found my workflow and really gotten into the swing of things. Glad to see someone else is excited for the return of the spinny thing! :D
You should read a book written by Barbara Tuhmann's Stilwell and the American Experience in China, 1911-45. That should give you some interesting scenarios for using Chinese Nationalist and Communist troops in WWII. Also, it will put things into perspective with respect to the difficulties with Chiang Kai-Shek. The Chinese troops were actually quite proficient when well led and equipped. Great job on the minis...they look great!!
It's been interesting so far reading about how things might have gone differently if Chiang hadn't been so thoroughly committed to trying to crush the Communists BEFORE dealing with the Japanese invasion of the country... some united front, right? I've gotten a few insights on the performance of the German-trained units early in the war, as well as X and Y Force; the Chinese soldier was more than capable of giving as well as he got when properly led with the right gear, it seems. Thanks for the recommendation, I'll definitely need to check that one out.
Excellent video! And definitely a very special how I paint things. Will you be looking at any thing for the Korean War? Love that cup in the background!
The trouble with the Korean war is that for the most part, the uniforms aren't much changed from the end of WWII. There's a couple things like the British change in battledress for the period I'd like to cover at some point, but it's a very 'in the future at some point' kind of thing, unfortunately.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio definitely understand… was sure about the U.S. Forces, pretty sure about British… I guess that Chinese would be similar to what you did in this video. I’ve got the Korean War book need to take a closer look at it. 😊
Amazing work as always Sonic! After the white painting fiasco a week or two back I settled on painting my primaris as standard, more beginner friendly untramarines, with red boltgun casings! Haha. But from all of this I decided I dont want to play such a... overly represented army (my local shop players groaned when I came in with em') and so have settled on the adeptus custodes as my next army propper. How do you think your last video on the storm cast would apply to such detailed miniatures? Its bang on a close match for the lockwardens shield-host if I'm correct!
If anyone's giving you guff for playing Ultramarines, it's them that needs the attitude adjustment rather than you. Sure, they're common, but so are German armies in Bolt Action and nobody blinks. It drives me spare people rolling their eyes at one another's army choices - unless it's Chaos, because they're bad and naughty. 😉 Where Custodians are concerned, I'm pretty sure most of the Stormcast colour schemes and techniques should transfer over to them fairly well. The Hammers of Sigmar gold armour look in particular is almost 1:1 for the Custodes, just swap the Macragge Blue for Mephiston Red and you'll be golden - literally as well as figuratively!
Those starter armies do make some rather good 1000pt forces, honestly... ;D I'm partial to the US Army one for the range of troops and support choices in there, but you can't go wrong with any.
Oh, neat! I hadn't realised it'd come out with subtitles. All I could find on it originally was a French dubbed version for international release. Off to go find that, now!
I watched this to see how you tackled the skin tone from that area of the world and you made no effort to address it and went down the lazy path of just using the bog standard GW skin range.
I've also done two videos previously on varied skin tones and how to paint those. At this scale, there's very little difference in what you'd actually see, but if you need specifics there's: th-cam.com/video/3mYCLwrI1fg/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/eqgPAKH_jy8/w-d-xo.html Past a point it's the uniform which is the more important part of the miniature, at least from the perspective of a video on the subject rather than repeating stuff I've already covered.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio ok i will watch those other videos, a lot of people say that because the miniatures are so small on a tabletop that you can't see any difference in skin colour and tone but then spend hours making sure they get the correct colour and shade on a tiny pouch.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess! I tend to play fairly loose with accuracy on most of my stuff, as long as it's in the right ballpark people can tweak as they need. With comparative skin tones it's difficult because you also don't want to look someone to look cartoonish instead. I'm quite looking forward to the Army Painter Skin Tone Paint Set, myself. That ought to make some choices far easier!
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Great video . Totally agree, the Chinese theatre of war during WW2 is really under explored. The army on the tabletop is also really diverse and it's a dream for kitbashers because of all the different gear you can draw upon.
They're a neat choice if you're into the weird, early war kit that didn't see a lot of use in other armies, too. I've got a T-26 I'm looking forward to painting up - something I'd never have wanted if I was looking to go up against a Pz IV or similar!
Thank you ,Sonic .
The Chinese Army in WW2 were always an interesting subject to me and I am glad to see you did a miniature of a soldier of that period. Thanks for sharing this very interesting tutorial.
Great tutorial and thanks for pointing me in the direction of Anzio Miniatures to buy the figures.
Glad I could help! They're nice little casts, really.
Now that was something I never thought of, the Chinese WW2 experience. Cool mini! Thanks again for sharing! 😀👍
It's a really interesting area of WWII that took me a long time to actually get around to investigating, and what a long story it is! The end of the civil war in 1949 marks almost forty years straight of constant conflict in China, from the initial revolution overthrowing the Imperial dynasty, the Warlord period, then the Japanese invasion of Manchuria... It's nuts just how long things went on for the average Chinese infantryman. The Chinese joining the Allies meant a hell of a lot of Japanese soldiers wouldn't end up fighting in the Pacific, which is good news for the Marines!
Remember when you were talking about adding History chats in with your painting videos? This is an excellent example of why you should do it. Not only did I get a painting lesson, but a history lesson. And maybe that will lead to me painting uncommon figures from other eras/armies. It’s win/win/win! Thanks again and Cheers 🍻
Great episode. I really like when you get into the weeds about where you get the historical sources for your colors. I admit that I'm not as picky when I'm choosing between two different shades of green or brown, but I love to hear you talk about your process.
It's pretty crazy how far it's possible to go sometimes in search of the 'right' colours, even when it's a fairly broad range of possibilities! I like to at least be in the realm of Hollywood accurate, for the most part. I figure reenactors are a safe bet there!
Lot of great episodes coming out lately. Glad spinney thing is back with us. I was getting concerned.
Cheers, Josh! I think I've found my workflow and really gotten into the swing of things. Glad to see someone else is excited for the return of the spinny thing! :D
Thanks for another great episode!
Nice tutorial, I do like when it's historicaly informed ! Thank you Sonic !
My pleasure! I do like these outliers on occasion. :D
Really enjoyed this, great tutorial!
Glad you enjoyed it!
You should read a book written by Barbara Tuhmann's Stilwell and the American Experience in China, 1911-45. That should give you some interesting scenarios for using Chinese Nationalist and Communist troops in WWII. Also, it will put things into perspective with respect to the difficulties with Chiang Kai-Shek. The Chinese troops were actually quite proficient when well led and equipped. Great job on the minis...they look great!!
It's been interesting so far reading about how things might have gone differently if Chiang hadn't been so thoroughly committed to trying to crush the Communists BEFORE dealing with the Japanese invasion of the country... some united front, right? I've gotten a few insights on the performance of the German-trained units early in the war, as well as X and Y Force; the Chinese soldier was more than capable of giving as well as he got when properly led with the right gear, it seems. Thanks for the recommendation, I'll definitely need to check that one out.
Amazing work.... beautiful ❤️❤️🎨🎨
Thank you! Cheers!
Great job as always 👍
Great work, well done! 👍
Excellent video! And definitely a very special how I paint things.
Will you be looking at any thing for the Korean War? Love that cup in the background!
The trouble with the Korean war is that for the most part, the uniforms aren't much changed from the end of WWII. There's a couple things like the British change in battledress for the period I'd like to cover at some point, but it's a very 'in the future at some point' kind of thing, unfortunately.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio definitely understand… was sure about the U.S. Forces, pretty sure about British… I guess that Chinese would be similar to what you did in this video. I’ve got the Korean War book need to take a closer look at it. 😊
Amazing work as always Sonic! After the white painting fiasco a week or two back I settled on painting my primaris as standard, more beginner friendly untramarines, with red boltgun casings! Haha. But from all of this I decided I dont want to play such a... overly represented army (my local shop players groaned when I came in with em') and so have settled on the adeptus custodes as my next army propper. How do you think your last video on the storm cast would apply to such detailed miniatures? Its bang on a close match for the lockwardens shield-host if I'm correct!
If anyone's giving you guff for playing Ultramarines, it's them that needs the attitude adjustment rather than you. Sure, they're common, but so are German armies in Bolt Action and nobody blinks. It drives me spare people rolling their eyes at one another's army choices - unless it's Chaos, because they're bad and naughty. 😉
Where Custodians are concerned, I'm pretty sure most of the Stormcast colour schemes and techniques should transfer over to them fairly well. The Hammers of Sigmar gold armour look in particular is almost 1:1 for the Custodes, just swap the Macragge Blue for Mephiston Red and you'll be golden - literally as well as figuratively!
thank you what a great topic😀
Not one you see often on TH-cam, I'd wager! 😂
That is really nice, thank you! :)
Glad you like it!
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio You'll get me to buy a bolt action starter kit eventually. :D
Those starter armies do make some rather good 1000pt forces, honestly... ;D I'm partial to the US Army one for the range of troops and support choices in there, but you can't go wrong with any.
Would this color of tan/brown also work for the Chinese in the Korean War? I cant seem to find a paint/uniform guide anywhere for it.
Have you seen any of the trailers for the movie “The Eight Hundred”. Looks good.
Oh, neat! I hadn't realised it'd come out with subtitles. All I could find on it originally was a French dubbed version for international release. Off to go find that, now!
Will "How I Paint Things" from Fallout: Wasteland Warfare appear?
'Eventually' is the short answer. I don't really play the game myself, so getting hold of the miniatures can be a challenge.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio ok, thank you for reply
Every cool, I did not even know Warlords games had Chinese troops
Warlord includes the rules for China in Bolt Action, but these miniatures are actually from Anzio Miniatures over here: anzio-miniatures.com/en/
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio Thanks, I'll check them out
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Unexpected and cool. 👍
(All Hail the Algorithm!)
I like to come out of left field occasionally! ;D
The Chinese communist troops that defeated the Chinese nationalists, eventually ended up fighting the UN in Korea.
The revolution, civil war, brief pause for WWII, continued civil war... it's a long period to cover, but seriously interesting times.
I watched this to see how you tackled the skin tone from that area of the world and you made no effort to address it and went down the lazy path of just using the bog standard GW skin range.
I've also done two videos previously on varied skin tones and how to paint those. At this scale, there's very little difference in what you'd actually see, but if you need specifics there's: th-cam.com/video/3mYCLwrI1fg/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/eqgPAKH_jy8/w-d-xo.html
Past a point it's the uniform which is the more important part of the miniature, at least from the perspective of a video on the subject rather than repeating stuff I've already covered.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio ok i will watch those other videos, a lot of people say that because the miniatures are so small on a tabletop that you can't see any difference in skin colour and tone but then spend hours making sure they get the correct colour and shade on a tiny pouch.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess! I tend to play fairly loose with accuracy on most of my stuff, as long as it's in the right ballpark people can tweak as they need. With comparative skin tones it's difficult because you also don't want to look someone to look cartoonish instead. I'm quite looking forward to the Army Painter Skin Tone Paint Set, myself. That ought to make some choices far easier!