This Rare Jeep Was a Porsche Killer You Forgot Existed! Drag Race, Roll Race, Brake Test
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The Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited is a very unusual, high performance SUV that shocked the world when it debuted in the late 1990's. Here is how it performs!
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Hope it sells well for you I have a 99 with 4.7 and 217 k miles new Quadra drive I. It I payed 4700 for back in may . Awesome video as usual
They go for $2k running and driving all day here in So Cal.
I have a 04 EVO 8 if your interested
I already Have one And Despite Needing alot of Work, Still Fires Right up Like Its just coming off the show room floor
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What's crazy is the 4.7 Cherokee that came out 3 years later was 1.2 liters smaller, with 20 more HP and same torque.
And was also a POS
@@NWI_Steel how so?... Mines got 230k and just did a 4000 mile road trip, rock crawled up a mountain pass on stock radial tires and drove back?... Traded it for 2 jetskis 10 years ago and hasn't had a single issue.
Why is that "crazy?" It's called progress.
@@sidefx996 because it's 4 years later.
The Ranger and Frontier were both under 100 ft!! 😂😂.
Glad to see the 5.9 ZJ getting some much needed love. I love mine!
I have a 5.2 v8 but i hear the 5.9 can go right into it. Thats what i may do with mine or just Ls swap it. Ill see what i want then ill go with the answer
@@22lrjayden81 i just did a 5.9 swap on my 97 5.2 zj! it went pretty flawless as long as you have a later year with the new computer it should all work plug n play. BALANCING IS DIFFERENT!! harmonic balancer and flexplate weights.
@@xthral awesome, mine is a 1998 so its the last year they made the zj before 1999 when they went to the WJ models
Y'all need to find a GMC Typhoon or Syclone to drag race
Dakota rt
Hell yea, my buddy bought a new one back then & I was so jealous because it blew the doors off my '88 Trans Am GTA 5.7 in the short runs but over long distance my GTA topped out at 160 where his Syclone quit at 130 but it was still a bad ass truck
@@nadronnocojr Had a new one of those too but was stolen in '98
@@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman my buddy in highschool had a typhoon and we had a lot of fun in that thing. Its launch was unmatched with all wheel drive.
@@ntme6506 I was 25 when the Typhoon was new & it was just a beast like the 1989 20th anniversary Turbo Trans Am & the 1987 Buick Grand National GNX! I had a 1983 burgundy/silver Buick Regal Ttop Ttype & a 1978 gold Ttop Z28 in high school & I saved enough money 3 years after graduation that I bought myself the black/gold GTA as a graduation present! Yea those all wheel drives came out the dig like its ass was on fire!
These 5.9 ZJ's are TANKS the 46RE, 44a Rear end, bullet proof Magnum engine. I miss mine for sure.
I remember those 5.9 Grand Cherokee’s they were the fasted SUV 0-60 at the time. 6.9 seconds. They were the before SRT.
Noooo the Durango R/T was!!
If at the time was the 90s.. then the Gmc typhoon was like 0-60 in 5.5
@@jonathancrews169 True I forgot about those, they where very quick!
@@jl456 I’m just going by what Jeep advertising stated in 98. .
They’re slow lol the 911 is faster in the real world. The 5.9 magnum falls on its face after 2nd gear, runs out of horsepower.
I have had 4 different 5.9 GCs all built differently, my current one has a cam, different injection system and intake, headers and full custom exhaust and 4:10 gears on 31s for now, definitely the one that will put a smile on your face. I’m in Colorado Springs would bring mine up if you wanted to do a drag race stock vs modified.
Email them! I'm sure they would love that
Yeah I've had a couple of the 5.9. GC cutting out the catalyst and changing the air intake would really wake it up.
Did you build it yourself? I have a JC from 2000. Curious on how to add mods to it, but I don’t know who to call for the job.
I’m in Pueblo! I have a sequoia. Let’s hit the trails!!!
Colorado springs in the house
That 5.9 with the right tune was a mega sleeper.
Nope lol. Still slow as hell.
Mine is tuned, has an aftermarket intake, 52mm TB, cat delete and 3" out the back. It's no racecar by any means, but it'll smoke the 33's on it in 2wd. It's 242 swapped.
@@speedracerjeffay they are boats buts for the consumers they are marketing for they are stupid fast they no corvette but yeah they arent going to be left in the dust
That was a lame start from Tommy.
🤣 yea a little underwelming
Yeah he fluffed that launch on purpose or something. The 911 is not that slow off the line.
He almost stalled 😂
The whole thing was lame and played out
Give him a break. He got CUJO’d by a “Blaze” recently.
I really like that generation / style of Jeep GC. I had a 318 V8. It was fantastic, but man did it drink gas.
Had one too and it was AWD. Stayed at the gas station!
My 99 Ram Sport with the 318 and 6” lift, 35” tires, one ton axels is really hard on gas!!!
That was the softest take off from a Porsche I ever seen
and they brought out the n/a soft top to boot 💀
When I had my 5.9, I always saw Renault Fuego influences in the styling (although they had different designers - the AMC - Renault legacy was still showing) ... not a bad thing. The Fuego looked futuristic in its day.
The Dakota was also available with the 5.9 V8, and that was a riot!
I remember that. If I remember correctly they damn near had to grease it up and wedge it in with a shoe horn. LOL!!
@@jbandt yup… it was fantastic! Only pickup 🛻 that was better was the 2000 Ford F-150 Lightning… that was seriously fast 💨
I have an rt and it walks all over lightnings all the time, especially in the turns .. like mustang and Camaro. The mustang could NOT go around a turn on rails
@@jbandtactually, the v8 fit great under the hoods on the dakota’s easier to wrench on then any other midsize truck.
“Fastest suv in the world! Up to that point!”
So are we going to forget that the GMC Typhoon exist? And would absolutely rofl stomp that jeep?
I had a ZJ just like this one (5.9) ... wish I had kept it. It needed a couple thou worth of work - so I let it go, but it was formidable (if not a bit heavy - especially compared to the WJ that followed it - which had a frame co-engineered by Porsche interestingly enough - look it up if you doubt my word :) The WJ Grand Cherokee were also built by Magna Steyr in Austria for the EU market.
I had a 99 Durango with the 5.9 and I raced one of these at a streetlight and it kicked my ass
Yeah the 5.9 is a dog…. The 911 driver let the Cherokee take that first race lol
I think the whole point of this vid is to get the auction price up...
That suxks I was hoping the 5.9 would stay on the channel a bit longer, ZJs don't get a ton of mainstream automotive love.
It’s funny because that Porsche 911 sounds worse than my lawnmower 😂
The ML55 AMG that came out in 2000 with 342hp is wayyyyy faster lol. The ML55 was the worlds fastest production SUV when it came out in 00… Sorry the 5.9 is a turd. I’ve owned a Ram and Dakota both with the 5.9 and it can’t even get out of its own way…. Must be something wrong with the 911 or its driver lol.
The Ml63AMG that came out in 2023 with 800hp after a just a flash tune is wayyyyy faster lol The flash tuned ML63AMG was the worlds fastest production SUV when it came out in 2023... Sorry the 5.9 is a turd. I've owned both a Ram and Dakota with the 5.9 right around the time I married my second cousin marrying and it can't even get out of its own way... Must be something wrong with the 911 or its driver inbred cousin nuzzler lol
Man, I really wish they made a Jeep XJ with that engine, would’ve been perfect for me!
Back then we called it a 360 even if it said 5.9L on the badge
The most impressive thing about the grand Cherokee is that it hasn’t been to the crusher yet.
Tommy fell asleep face down with a lollipop in the right corner of his mouth
"this jeep grand Cherokee was the world's fastest SUV"
GMC typhoon:
"Excuse me what the fuck?"
1987 Porsche vs 1998 V8 Jeep 🤔 I was thinking it was going to be a fair comparison but in reality, the Jeep probably couldn't beat the Boxter of the same year never mind come anywhere close to a 911.
You didn't launch that Porsche, you slowly pulled off like you were leaving from a stop sign... Hold it at 3,000 rpm and dump the clutch and you would've smoked that pos jeep
Kind of wish I had the spare coin to get this. Think it would be cool to get a 20 year old car that still in decent shape, put some TLC into it and make it a fun driving car.
Do it and enjoy it. My boss said when I asked, "you only live once".
Last February I picked up a 2004 Corvette with 97k miles for under $14k, at a local-to-me used car lot with a clean title and a decent Carfax report, not perfect, but decent.
Not a garage queen but driven around and enjoyed. It's a nice looking car with bright red paint, red seats, and red carpet, yes lot's of bright torch red. To buy an older Vette like that, there's usually some nice new parts and all the BS stuff that fails has already been fixed. The car had a couple different things fixed that were under open recall that usually will make this car inoperable, by the previous owners.
It's still a "fast car" with a 350hp LS1 aluminum V8, transmission is in the rear of the car so almost 50/50 weight split front to rear. Parts are cheap and the C5 Corvette is known to be fairly reliable with out known major engine or transmission issues and falling apart like some cars do.
Before you buy an older discontinued car model, see what parts are available to fix it.
The C5 Corvette still has a HUGE after market support and parts availabilty for a few more years.
Tbh, this doesn’t really show that the 5.9 G Cherokee is that fast, it mostly just shows how completely anemic most old Porsches are. And overpriced. And overrated.
LOL!!!!!! "Porsche Killer????" Do you know how many OLD SUV's would also kill that Porsche? 17.4 in the Qtr mile? I think my Goldendoodle can run that fast!
Race the jeep against an xc90 v8. That will change your mind about no replacement for displacement.
That cherokee had the same drive train as the dodge Dakota R/T 5.9 and the Durango R/T 5.9
You're half right. Grand cherokee and the durango rt had the same exact drivetrain, the dakota rt was only rear wheel drive.
Different diffs Chrysler 9 1/4 with 3.92 ratio used in the Dakota’s, and Durango’s.
Dana 44 in the rear on the Jeep and some of the jeeps have aluminum center sections on the Dana 44.
Not the fastest suv, the Typhoon was faster 0-60 and 1/4 mile. Nice try.
not sold in 1998. nice try
The statement you made was: “in 1998 this was the world’s fastest suv”. In 1998 the world’s fastest suv was in fact still a 1992 Typhoon. Im not sure that you under how speed records work.
@@zepplin810 Fastest production SUV? As still in production at the time, maybe.
A friend of mine in highschool had one of these ZJ 5.9's and man was it fun! We put a lift and some nice tires on it and made a side exit exhaust for it, thing sounded awesome and was a rocket to us kids who didn't know any better lol.
I remember dreaming for this to be my first vehicle, almost got one but the person backed off on the deal last minute. The zj will always be my favorite gen grand Cherokee despite the terrible transmissions and electrical issues lol
Gotta say, the torque per weight is more important in everyday traffic than overall speed. Hugging the corners with the porche is sweet though.
At 8:08 - babies don't stand, they just lie there and the Jeep would have plenty of ground clearance to roll over it.
Please find some one who can launch the Porsche. ..the are all under 7sec at 0-60......
Put that up against a 92 or 93 GMC Typhoon. 4.3L Turbo V-6 with 280hp - 350lb-ft.
There's a price difference of about 20k+ and increasing.
@@carado1984 There’s probably a $20k + price between that 911 cab & that Grand Cherokee. I think calling it the world’s fastest SUV is a bit of a stretch. Like Brian mentioned the 92-93 GMC Typhoon would have destroyed the Jeep Grand Cherokee with its lighter weight, 280hp/360lb/ft torque with a turbo V6. At sea level they’ll run 14.0’s. At elevation it’s hard to say but I’d guess it would be quicker than 17.2 in the 1/4 mi.
@@GrandCamino6 probably had a higher top speed or something
Using the name Porsche killer is far from the truth
My best friends parents had one of these. Theres was all time all wheel drive and thats why they emded up selling it i think. But they pulled sooo much things with that from trucks in snow, trees and there backhoe and bobcat when they got stuck!
I had one of the OGs, a 1973 Cherokee with the 360 4bbl 4wd with 33s
Yeah but that was an AMC 360 though or did you put a Chrysler 360 in it??
@@extremedrivrIt was AMCs tall deck 360, the same engine they used in the AMX & the Rebel just detuned by '73! Fun fact, it was also the same engine that was in the '74 Bricklin for 1 year {the same car used in The Junkman 1982 [HB Halicki from Gone in 60 Seconds 1974]}! The 360 has the distinction of being the last AMC motor built as Chrysler used it in the Grand Wagoneer until 1991! I had that Cherokee for 38 yrs along with my 1976 Jeep CJ 304 4bbl 3sp {got them both as a senior in high school} & just sold both a couple yrs ago
That Porsche looses 100 hp with the years
.🤦♂️
Wish I was near these guys I have a Grandnational and a gmc typhoon would love for them to do a drag race with those 2.
I had a 2000 GC with the 4.7 and that was a beast. Quick and the second extra gear was a nice touch. Unfortunately it spent more days at the dealer than driven. My wife’s 2013 GC hemi has been problem free and awesome. The tranny is slow with the hemi compared to the 8 speed after. Still a great Jeep.
My friend had the exact one. We launched it so many times we broke the mount on the driver's seat. It really did throw you back in the seat.
That was the SRT8 jeep before the SRT8 jeep I guess
Love me some ZJ 5.9l. Mine was 32k fully loaded in ‘98. Still have it. But did full exhaust, intake, intake manifold, stroke, cam, throttle body. Makes over 400hp. But sadly it is still relatively slow. 0-60 in 5.8s. Was expecting better. Haven’t changed the gearing yet. Hopefully I pick up another half a second to sixty, but the week link is the 4 speed transmission with massively long gears - Compared to my Trackhawk with an 8 speed transmission. Yes, I have a 5.9 and a Trackhawk. Love both frankly.
Throw a 78/75 on it. It'll wake up then.
@@racerx250 A 78/75 what?
@@marcmartino476 78/75 is the size of a turbo. VS racing makes a few that are top performers.
@@racerx250 Interesting, I will check them out. Thanks.
Wonder whether its worth showing the ET's corrected for altitude in future shows...Just a thought
I had a 98 GC that had the quadratrac full time awd, and it had the 318, which was a 5.2L i think, it was quick AF off the line
Bogging the porsche was expected. You have to give 911s a ton of gas before you take off.
Moral of the story Turbo or Supercharge EVERYTHING.
I hate to say it. Being a long time Chrysler and now Stellantis hater. The drag race and braking test were impressive.
I love that they mentioned that engine is from the Ram trucks as I drive a 94Ram 2500 with the 5.9 360 V8 and even in my truck it makes power all over the place.
I had nachos for dinner last night
Years ago I had a 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland with the 4.7 HO, Quadradrive, and Towing package. I always thought it felt quick for what it was.
Test jeep wj 4.7l ho
My 95 v8 thunderbird ran a 15.8 at basically sea level. My brother had a 93 Cherokee 5.2L and he would beat me kinda just like that did to the 911. I would guess at Sea level the 5.9 would run low 15
You need to pay Casy more so he can buy a second pair of pants.
I mean a new jeep Cherokee Trackhawk will destroy a 2013 911
Tommy is like : dude I almost had you lol
Jeep ZJs are too sweet. I’m keeping my 5.2 till it dies then swapping a 5.9 in
I'm really curious how my '60 vw split bus would perform in this kind of drag race ;-)
I call bullshit, the gmc typhoon/syclone made 280 hp/ 350lbs stock and it weighed 3822lbs, the jeep/dodge was 245hp/ 345lbs stock and weighed 4,261. Make a video of the typhoon versus the grand clunker.
4:55 "Wall aerodynamics", "Cruise Ship Wheight" with long automatic 90's transmission.... LoL
I remember the ad for this SUV in national geographic! It proudly advertised that is was the fastest in the world with a 7 ish second 0-60 time and a trick awd system
Fyi guys this is a stock 5.9 magnum... the crate 5.9 magnum put out 375hp.... the 5.9 in the Jeep is gutted for low rpm torque 3200rpm.. even a simple intake manifold and throttle body upgrade can drasticly change this engines performance.
Jeep: per Motor Trend
0-60 mph: 6.8 seconds
Quarter mile: 15.2 seconds @ 88.7 mph
Porshe: per Automobile Catalog
0-60 6.4s
Quarter mile: 14.9s does not show elapsed time.
it sold for 3600$ lol the person who got it got a steal!
Lmao it’s been driven hard by the owners of this channel, it’s in rough cosmetic shape and it’s got like 215k miles not what I would call a steal
A 2.0L I4 JL Wrangler easily makes more power and torque than that 5.9L V8 now, and can get almost 30MPG if you set the cruise at 55MPH.
My 2.slo F4 Crosstrek weighs more than that German F6 911 too.
...and a Tesla silently walks away from all of these.
As someone wrote in the comments, the Jeep made 6.9 sec 0-60. 911 3.2 made 6.1 sec 0-62, and take into account that Porsche ALWAYS declares a very conservative time... Having driven a 3.2 911, I can tell you that your launch was a joke, and the car clearly bogged down, with not enough revs. Trying to pamper the old G50, I can get that, but you have to launch that car a lot harder to get close to the times quoted by Porsche, and I know that the 1-2 shift must be done with care, 2-3 is fine though.
This was kinda a lame comparison, a late 90’s vehicle against a late 80’s..?
He notes it’s the 1st gen Grand Cherokee, I’m not even into Cherokees and I’m pretty sure off the top of my head that’s a 3rd gen.
Guy in the Porsche notes that he has a stick, and seems to imply that’s an advantage in a 1/4 mile drag. Drag racing 101 will tell u an automatic is definitely a benefit, especially in street cars.
The Porsche has nothing going for it. It’s an 80’s flat boxer, naturally aspirated, standard shift, in an over weight convertible chassis. Aside from it saying Porsche on it, it’s kinda a show boat slug. You’d been better off putting any turbo Subaru from the 90’s against that Dodge 360ci.
This is equivalent to racing a Miata from the 90’s against a new Honda Odyssey mini van. I’ve got $20 on the van
I love the first generation Grand Cherokee. Had 2 identical 1997 Grand Cherokee TSi 4.0 6 years apart. Then had a 2003 Grand Cherokee Laredo til 2019. Great, reliable transportation, fun to drive and easy to work on.
Amazing how he couldn’t dish out less than $100 for a new pair of headlights. The current fogged up ones ruin the whole Jeep.
It would be fun to see a modern Grand Cherokee 3.6 V6 vs older V8 Jeep or Porsche etc. older muscle cars even. Modern base family SUV is somewhat quick etc.
A RAV4 Prime would spank it off the line.
i have a black 5.9 grand cherokee jeep, for me the most beautiful jeep in the world 😀❤️
Very lame start from Tommy. He doesn’t know how to start properly with a manual transmission. He’s horrible at it 🤣🙏🏼
That Porsche is a pos. Calling the jeep a Porsche killer does it little justice. Im pretty sure my grandmas 96 grand marquise would put up a pretty good fight against that 911
Grand Cherokee 5.9 will never outrun a '87 Carrera, no matter the drag strip length. Besides, you're comparing cars which are 11 years apart. What's really the point here?
I own one these jeeps, hard to find nowa days and it’s still very quick for it’s year, lots people get surprised when they hear that it’s a v8
You are giving the Jeep an additional weight penalty. Switch drivers! LOL
Transmission on Jeep should have but did not shift into 1st gear on the 30mph roll race 😁
Hey thats my jeep! But mine has long arms ,slip yoke, woods shafts, upgraded brakes, modifyed rockers, 33s and souped up for off roading lol
I remember dreaming about being able to afford one of those 5.9 grand Cherokees! They were badass for their day! They were faster than a LOOOT of the cars back then.
Nope the 5.9 is a turd lol.
Faster than 5.0 explorers?
@@speedracerjeff they definitely are but for back then it was pretty stout.
@@angelgjr1999 yeah by a good chunk. The 5.0 explorer was roughly the same weight and only made around 210hp and quite a bit less torque.
@@cfltitanif you were around in like 2019 and before you could’ve picked one of those 5.9 zjs up for like $10k with around 20-30k miles on it
haha 17 second quarter mile times reminds me of when we were kids with econoboxes racing. Now 13-14 second quarter mile time are normal. Add a second for high elevation?
Z's Jeeps are not that rare whatsoever especially the 360 318 straight 6 the diesel that's a bit rare to find but I have all three just not the diesel cuz those things are drunk the motor that particularly came in the zJ that is
This isnt really fair your taking a base model 911 and going against the highest trim of the jeep if you had a 911 turbo the jeep wouldn't compare it's more power and torque and less weight the base on had like 200hp so no wonder it lost
ZJ can haul a ton of crap to the dump or pick up materials to build something significant. Offroads like a TJ too. 911 will get you laid though.
Bro, that's not how you bring that car out of the hole. A clutch is tantamount to an adjustable stall converter, which you most certainly did not utilize. I could microwave a hotdog inside your 60' time.
I'll be honest I didn't know about these but I'm fairly sure my 4.6 xj 5spd 4x4 would hurt it's feelings
With an old 136hp diesel BMW 320d you can do 17sec on the 400m, what is wrong with the Porsche?
A stock Typhoon would walk that Jeep no problem in the 1/4 mile. Even if it had a higher "top speed" it would take a ton of road to get past the Typhoon.
These things are even more fun with a 5 speed. 😛 if u don't believe me, check mine out.
Greetings to all from a happy Grand Cherokee 5.9 owner
Meet this jeep on the German Autobahn, drive a saab 900 turbo, glad that this jeep has a speed limiter on about 200 km/h
Porsche wins 2/3 Test. Why is it killed?Doesnt matter but no one turns around for that old jeep.
Youve gota measure the braking to the ffront off the car(the part thats still kills the kid even tho the wheels didnt) .... dont make any sense to me...
bullshit the porsche is around 6.7 and the jeep is around 8 sec do 100km
I own a stone white 9er. Built and tuned.
If your not manual shifting then your wasting valuable power.
The 118 mph speed limiter really hurt the Jeep 5.9 but it got there pretty damn quick for what it was
Had death wobble happen at 90. First time experiencing that. Oh man I thought I was done for.
They’re fast from a dead stop until around 30mph or so in the high end it’s slow as fuck
ill tell you right now that the awd system isnt what helped it from a dig, mine in 2wd doesnt chirp the tires... dry.
americans can drive only on strait highways, cause if you have to turn, you will go to the woods. thats the difference to the porsches, and wh they win against cars with bigger engines. they were made to race, not to drag.
Thats hilarious my stock 94 Buick Roadmaster will blow both of these cars away.😂