The airlines from Venezuela and Suriname wouldn’t have to leave their continent to use EU airspace because of their proximity to French Guiana, which explains why the EU cares about small South American carriers that don’t operate flights to Europe.
Does that rule apply in French Guiana? I know a lot of EU rules are looser or not applicable to overseas territories. Then again, ESA does a lot of stuff out of there so they, at least, definitely care about its airspace.
Yes, commercial aviation is extremely safe. But one of the main reasons it is so safe is because of strict oversight as described in this video. I am glad that I can buy a plane ticket in Europe and know that the airline has properly trained pilots, properly maintained aircraft, etc.
And yet, a german pilot still managed to crash a plane in the alps a few years ago. We may have tighter « safety measures » but we’re probably the first continent where that happened 😞
@@c0mpu73rguy Well the first continent where a pilote suicide (outside of war) happened was indeed Europe, but it was in the Soviet Union in 1972. The first commercial flight with a pilot suicide was in Africa.
Germanwings was absolutely not the first crash of its kind. By that I mean - one pilot leaves the flight deck, other pilot locks then out and crashes the plane. That HAS HAPPENED before the Germanwings crash!
Searched it get even more with Euro-Mediterranean aviation agreements But here not Eu Members Georgia, Ukraine, Armenia, Moldova Euro-Mediterranean aviation agreements (EMAAs)[edit] Moreover, a system of association agreements with the ECAA has been enacted for the Mediterranean partnership countries. In force[edit] Morocco signed its Euro-Mediterranean Aviation Agreement (EMAA) with the EU on 12 December 2006 with the Kingdom of Morocco.[8] Jordan signed its Euro-Mediterranean Aviation Agreement (EMAA) with the EU on 15 December 2010.[9] Israel signed its Euro-Mediterranean Aviation Agreement (EMAA) with the EU on 10 June 2013.[10] Under negotiation[edit] Tunisia started its negotiations on 27 June 2013.[11] Lebanon: on 9 October 2008, the Council of the European Union adopted a decision authorising the European Commission to open negotiations. Algeria: also on 9 December 2008, the Council of the European Union adopted a decision authorising the European Commission to open negotiations, though the negotiations with Algeria have not started yet. Island Monkey again Brexit[edit] Because the UK has left the European Union (Brexit), the UK is no longer part of the Common Aviation Area. Unless permission or new treaties with the UK are made, aviation to and from the UK may stop[needs update].[12] There was a delay in this hard Brexit until the end of 2020, because the Brexit withdrawal agreement states that most EU rules continue to be valid for the UK during 2020. However, EU has approved regulations 2019/494 and 2019/505 in order to secure air traffic between UK and EU plus EEA.[13] Also, the British government has taken various steps to ensure the continuation of air travel, such as an open skies agreement with the United States.[14] The British airline EasyJet which has many flights outside the UK has set up a subsidiary in Austria (easyJet Europe) whilst keeping its headquarters in Luton, England.
@@DarkHarlequin But it is not only Swtizerland, it includes other countries such as Norway, Iceland, Greenland, as well as a lot of Mediterranean countries not part of the EU.
@@Janoip I knew quite a few of these but I was unaware that UK airlines opened branches in Austria, I would have expected Ireland if anything as many other European airlines are based out of there.
Zorg can also be translated as ‘worry’ (noun). That meaning seems to fit better here, paired with ‘hope’. But I don’t know what the people who named the place were thinking.
That's actually cooler than an airport named after a President, a small town in the middle of the countryside that just so happens to be the closest place, or nothing at all.
I remember when my country Indonesia's flagship and one of the biggest airlines Garuda Indonesia suffered decline across the late 1990's and 2000's, which culminated in Flight 200, which crashed during landing. This led to all Indonesian airlines being banned off of EU airspace. Fortunately, Garuda managed to clean up their act and introduced sweeping overhauls and reforms that revitalized it as an airline, and the ban was eventually lifted.
Yeah it took decades after that shooting at an Indonesian 🇮🇩 residence and other sketchy practices and I hope to visit Indonesia and fly on their airlines someday as Indo has a huge aviation industry now a days especially since they’re a series of islands separated from each other! Cheers my friend 🥂
In fairness, Mandala had like 5 major crashes in 5 years and was still allowed to fly by the Indonesian Authorities. It wasn't just flight 200 that caused the country-wide ban.
Yep but Philippines are different, because from 2010 to 2013, all airlines in the Philippines are banned in the EU because of safety concerns but did not last the ban until 2013 so luckily KLM is a substitution for Manila-Amsterdam route
It breaks my heart seeing Air Zimbabwe on that list as it was once a good airline in the 80s and 90s with an impeccable safety record. Flew on it many times to England, Germany, Greece and Cyprus during that era before all the politics ruined it and ultimately leading it being banned in Europe.
@@MarsJenkar The airline is run as a parastatal therefore some of the government's policies had an impacted it. It just saddens me because I saw how good it was in its hey day. One of the lowest flypasts of a Boeing 707 famously caught on film was from the Air Zim fleet.
This is why the whole collapse of Rhodesia is so sad. It was on a clear path to success. Zimbabwe would benefit from the work that was done for a while but then obviously would later face really bad economic problems once they couldn't maintain what was left for them
@@ChadWilson Between two TH-cam channels, he has 6m subscribers. He's a part-owner of Nebula which has at least 700,000 paying members. Even if his dividend was just 10c/month/user, that's $70k a month. Even if it were $0.01/user/month, that's $7k/month. I think there would be better causes for a GoFundMe rather than paying a content creator to attend an industry event that he would be able to claim as a business deduction, including associated costs (travel, accomodation etc).
A Venezuelan airline being banned from operating in or over the EU is not as odd as it sounds at first, if you consider that the ban automatically extends to the European Overseas Countries and Territories, and that these include Bonaire and Curaçao located off the Venezuelan coast (Aruba being the closest at about 27 km/17 miles from Venezuela). Prior to the ban Avior was actually operating flights to both Aruba and Curaçao. Similarly, Suriname-based Blue Wings operates some types which can reach several airports in European Overseas Countries and Territories out of their home base at Paramaribo, these being Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao, Sint-Eustatius, Saint Barthélemy, Saba and Sint Maarten (all within range of their singular Cessna 406 Caravan II; and all but Aruba in range of their Cessna 208 Caravan).
Aruba ane Curaçao have fully independent Aviation Authorities, EASA has no jurisdiction on the islands. Avior kept flying to those islands way after they were banned from flying to the EU. And they're still flying to Curaçao. And blue wings has never flown or intended to fly to the Dutch Caribbean islands, and their aircraft certainly do not have the range to fly from Suriname to there nonstop
2:30 - that's because Ireland has long had a plane rental industry based out of Shannon Airport, basically the one of biggest in the world. This has to do with it once being where Atlantic stopovers happened and is also related to the origins of duty free shipping and Irish coffee. You could basically to a whole video on how pivotal Ireland has been to the airline industry.
The U.S. FAA has a similar no-fly list, where they can downgrade an entire country because of the safety of their airlines, restricting or even prohibiting airlines of that country from flying to the United States.
But you know, it's the FAA. They don't exactly have a track record for being unbiased. Remember the Max 8? The FAA refused to ground the damn thing even when everyone else already had. I'm sure they'd have done the same for a Chinese, Russian, or British manufractured plane.
@@SenorBigDong69 It's not the same because the EU prohibits flying over EU territory, the US prohibits flying in US air control. US air traffic control, for example, includes the entire 4000km between Hawaii and California of pure water. I suppose in theory there's little repercussions, the US military won't shoot down a plane of civilians over the Atlantic, though nobody has tried.
@@Rapradait's the most literal language. What did the Dutch name that "wild beast" in Africa when they first saw it? Well, wildebeest. Can you guess what the Dutch translation is??
I'll just leave a comment here to get notified for anything else people have to say about my country. Ps. I completely forgot about the bluewing crashes. Those happened when I was 9 years old
Russian Airlines register their aircraft in Bermuda to avoid paying the high taxes set by the Russian Government on non Russian built aircraft. Aeroflot Russian Airlines created a subsidiary in Bermuda, then register their aircraft in Bermuda and then lease their own aircraft to the patent company (Aeroflot.) This is similar to cruise lines registering their ships in a different country then they are headquartered.
And the reason many were registered in Ireland is simply that... Ireland owns a majority of all commercial aircraft in the world. Or, rather, the companies who own the majority are based in Ireland (more than 75% of the 20 largest leasing companies in the world are HQ'd in Ireland and about a quarter of them are home grown Irish companies). Ireland's a natural hub for aviation - closest part of Europe to North America, low taxes, neutral, lots of local expertise etc. Europe's largest airline (RyanAir) is also Irish, though it doesn't do long haul flights so it's probably not familiar to anyone outside of the Europe and North Africa.
I don’t know who told you that Russian planes are registered in Bermuda, cause the video certainly did not… Russian planes are registered in Russia in a Russian system, that’s why their registration numbers begin with RA- (or then followed by a 5-digit number. And Bermuda and Ireland, as said in the video, issues safety certificates (and not even to Russia) not aircraft registration.
it is sad that iraqi airways is on the banned list nowadays. It's one of the oldest airlines in the middle east, and used to take pride in it's safety record, and was one of the most prestigious companies to work for in iraq for decades...
they probably were not banned for their lack of safety, probably more of their old planes that are in use still, but heres to hoping they make it off that banned list
@@grainer3878 nope, the fleet is almost all new planes ordered from Boeing, Airbus, and Bombardier after 2003. The old 747s pictured in the videos had been retired many years ago, and were sold for scrap recently. It's simply the corruption in the country where people get jobs by nepotism or bribing those in a positon to hire for such jobs.
I saw an animated gif of one male pilot Ben deingover and snîeuff!ñg the other guys crôeutch (he had only undoer garments on) so I guess that’s what happens in the cockpit, also the artist is artistic jinsky
3:19 Avior does not have to operate flights to Europe to be affected by the Aviation Safety List. French Guiana is right there in South America, but part of the EU. So are some islands in the region.
0:39 It's okay, I speak bureaucrat! Allow me to translate. It says: "That's not what it's called, it's called the 'Community list of air carriers which are subject to an operating ban within the Community'."
Flying is so safe precisely because there is a lot of oversight in the industry, and the punishments for ignoring safety regulations are brutal, for both airlines and manufacturers. That is quite some motivation to make sure you abide by the highest standards.
It is shocking however that a bunch of the budget airlines like Ryanair, Sun Country, Spirit, etc aren't on here. They're just as bad as these 5 "really bad ones"
Boeing definitely show just how great the '''oversight'' really is don't they. Apparently another one has just been reported this morning has having serious issues involving fires etc. Yup, really safe manufacturer with lots of oversight ensuring they're safe. (NOT)
"oversights" such as doors randomly exploding outta your plane for example even tho you very well knew about the issues and having to silence whistleblowers lolol
I had the displeasure of fly in UTair in Russia. The cabin pressurization system wasn't working properly and the pilots had to fly using oxygen tanks, but they didn't cancel the flight and didn't bother telling us either. When we landed, everyone onboard had CO2 headaches.
@@WantedForTwerking well, most go away from governments and lack of oversight, and most of the rest from being Russia, and then he could just mention one of the other 5 like an example instead of explanations and only explain the pilots fighting part.
As for the Bermuda and Irish registered airplanes in Russia, I believe it has to do with more favorable insurance and regulatory terms, and also the locations of the lessors. Similar to a “flag of convenience” on ships.
Ireland has a number of large respected aircraft leasing companies like AerCap that actually do move the planes in and out of Ireland as their base. It's perfectly legitimate for them to be licensed and regulated from there. They've always shared responsibility for transatlantic planning, ATC and emergencies with the Newfoundland province in Canada. So they're a perfectly legitimate aviation hub. They do hand out weird shady tax breaks for tech firms but it doesn't really have anything to do with their aviation related efforts.
It’s because in Russia aircraft not manufactured in Russia are way more expensive to register. So Aeroflot in particular got around it by registering their aeroplanes in Bermuda
Formerly was Philippines and Indonesia when these two carriers are banned to fly in the EU because of safety issues From 2010 to 2013, Philippine airline carriers(PAL, Cebu Pacific, etc.) are banned from flying to EU because of safety issues so KLM is a substitute from Manila to Amsterdam even these carriers removed from blacklist in 2013 it was still operating today by KLM Indonesia airline carriers(Garuda Indonesia, Lion Air, etc.) are banned from flying to the EU from 2008 to 2016 because the number of plane crashes are occured in Indonesia and failure of airline safety standards but eventually in 2018 all carriers are removed from EU blacklist
@@jamesgorman5241 Yeah Lion Air has suffer the most crashes involved Boeing being recently was in 2018 Lion Air 610 tragedy caused by Boeing 737 Max MCAS but hopefully Lion Air will fly with safer Boeing planes to make sure never happened again
Important to mention that French Guiana is not a French territory like the Falklands are for the UK. French Guiana and Réunion ARE France. That's why so many airlines that operate outside of Europe are banned, they fly into the non-European parts of the EU.
Was legit surprised Malaysia Airlines was NOT on the list for a moment, until I realized Flight 17 was thrown out the window by Russians and Flight 370 just kinda Bermuda-Triangled itself over the Indian Ocean. Very tough luck.
@@SportyMabamba You're right - the only plausible explanation (and one agreed upon by most experts) is that MH370 was deliberate. The captain depressurised the plane, killing everyone else on board, and with a bit of careful flying, once out of radar range, he turned south and just flew it until it ran out of fuel. The only thing we'll never really know is why.
@@RealPayNoAttention often times, even when a "why" is provided for a suicide it still doesn't really make sense. Suicidal people are rarely thinking logically. I'd say his life insurance policy played a role in why he did it the way he did it, though.
Both the maps at 0:50 and 5:23 are wrong. The European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) comprises of all EU member states, plus Iceland, Norway, Liechtenstein and Switzerland. The UK has left EASA since Brexit, but its aviation laws are based still on EASA. (Andorra, Monaco and Vatican City have no airports so are not EASA member states)
I've been a fan of this channel for a couple of years now, but I have to comment here. As an Iraqi, I feel deeply offended by this video's remarks about the safety of Iraqi airlines. They should be put on a permanent ban category of their own, not in a generic, run of the mill ban list.
Hey sam, my dad works at the EU. It’s not called “No-Fly-List” since it’s a very harsh and rough term. The “No-Fly” also is already used by the NATO, for restricting airspace, not airlines. That should be it!
Those certificates of airworthyness of the Russian airliners were issued by Ireland and Bermuda (2:27) because they were leased to Russia by Irish and Bermudan leasing companies. simple
In addition to the main list of banned carriers, The European Commission also publishes Annex B, which is a list of air carriers where the whole airline is not banned, but some of its fleet are not allowed to fly in EU airspace. For instance, Iran Air, which is one of the carriers on the Annex B list, can fly all of their aircraft within the EU, with the exception of their 747s that are listed on their Air Operations Certificate.
Nothing gives you the feeling of a safe flight then when flying from Pretoria to Cape Town, hitting slight turbulence, and having multiple ceiling panels come down on top of you. This happened to me flying South African Air.
I flew once with Asman airlines in a local trip with in Iran , there was smoke in the airplane cabin midair! Everyone was calm like it is a regular occurrence 😐
FINALLY a good old Wenedover video about very minor details of the Airline industry! I was worried that after all the Videos about Arms and War and Military logistics we needed to go check on Sam and Amy if they were ok 😖🥳
What's up with the graphic at 2:13? You say 101 of 108 carriers but the red shows 227 of 256 dots. The 22 dots from Russia are actually 24 blue dots. The 5 green dots are okay.
I have some family that was on Iraqi Airways recently, and apparently the A220 they were on had an engine problem and had to go back to Baghdad. It’s (sorta) normal but that’s on a NEW model.
How is controlling what you allow in your airspace considered not minding your own business? I feel like that's definitely your business to care about.
It does though. There is EU land in South America. But even if there weren't, banning them now pre-emptively stops them from ever trying to fly to the EU.@olivercharles2930
Blindly accepting terms and conditions can sometimes be a good thing, because there have been some rulings where legalese has been rendered unenforceable precisely because no one reads it.
I remember Pakistan airways was banned from EU airspace a few years ago because the majority of their pilots literally had no aviation licenses or any prior experience of flying planes
I flew with PIA last year from Dubai to Lahore. There was some skirmish in the front part of the plane after landing, the crew had to switch off the lights to stop the fight. Quite an experience. But the food was good! 😂
*You forgot Pakistan International Airlines.* The incompetence of Pakistan's Civil Aviation Authority definitely contributed heavily to the ban, but PIA is specifically banned.
>Pakistan >incompetence No competence and Pakistan are like peas of a pod. Or mangoes to Mao. It's not surprising to know that they've become a new hotbed for India's customary tech-support scams.
*They passed preliminary* ICAO inspections and are in negations with EASA to lift the European ban in order to increase its sell-off value in a privatisation effort. The airline have announced an expected European reprieve in mid-May, but negotiations remain ongoing. Moreover, Pakistan is now listed by the FAA as an IASA Category 2 country, which means any airline under the jurisdiction of Pakistan's civil aviation authority remains banned from US airspace, not just PIA
Something cool about Avior though: They still fly a 737-200 that won't reach Europe anyway (and it will be 40 years old in May 2024). But because it can reach French Guyana and Aruba/Curacao/Bonaire, the ban might have anything to do with it.
- sign away rights to likeness - likeness may be reanimated as an AI meat puppet - in exchange for putting silly filters on your face for internet brownie points - copy paste for length - also there's apparently an Easter egg in the Chicago parking meters video that's on the side of a stock footage parking meter about halfway in and Sam is concerned that we missed out on it That's everything right? Don't want Sam to think we missed anything here!
So some mistakes I saw: The part thst is regulated is actually the European common aviation area. For some reason one of the maps shows the UK being a member and UK not, most likely outdated. That aviation area includes French Guinea, meaning they do care about South American carriers for a reason.
If we had more people like you, he wouldn't have to leave any actual mistakes in the video to make lesser pedants write up their corrections in the comments.
3:50 - Zorg en Hoop is “care and hope” in Dutch. It’s why their black list is relevant: Curaçao, Bonaire, Aruba and some others are part of Kingdom of the Netherlands. Airspace that follows the EU sanction list.
Lol, "Zorg en Hoop airfield" literally translates as "Care and Hope airfield". What a great initiative to try to reduce fatal crashes from the airline, being based out of there!
I'm so JAZZED to eat eggs, but not wash the dishes that I used tiny paper plates to have my daily eggs. I still have to wash the fork, but it makes it easy.
As an iranian who has flown on aseman airlines many times, i can confirm that they give you a cool miniature plane if you pay extra 100% worth the risk
Well either that or they don't have USB C ports, lol. In all seriousness, I'm actually really happy the EU is making apple do that. Edit: fixed a stupid typo, lol.
I'm shocked Air New Zealand is not on that list. Multiple A320 and A321 aircraft out of service due to engine issues, and a Air New Zealand truck crashed into a 787 Dreamliner. Also, I've flown with them 8 times and twice we've had to change aircraft after boarding due to mechanical issues. A320 and ATR-72
Air New Zealand doesn't fly to Europe anymore they terminated flights to Frankfurt in 2001 partially due to 9/11 and their Auckland-Los Angeles-Heathrow route was terminated in 2020
5:48 - "We will own your likeness and may try to re-animate you as an AI meat-puppet BUT you can put some silly filters on your face and get internet points for it. Now I just need to make this so long you don't read it. I'm just going to copy the previous lines. We will own your likeness and may try to re-animate you as an AI meat-puppet BUT you can put some silly filters on your face and get internet points for it. Now I just need to make this so long you don't read it. I'm just going to copy the previous lines. Also, nobody noticed the easter egg in the Chicago Parking Meters episode, I'm not upset... I'm just concerned that the audience may be living their lives without valuable information located on the side of a stock footage parking meter about halfway in."
In regards to airlines not flying to Europe, there are two reasons. One has already been mentioned by another poster (EU isn't limited to Europe, there are EU territories in Carribean, Africa and South America). The second is that just because an airline doesn't regularly fly to the EU doesn't mean they won't at some point decide to do so - it could be as simple as a charter flight. Hence the need to cover them with the ban. Another thing interesting to mention is that there is another list which is an annex to the first list (yay!). This is sort of "a positive list" which allows airlines to fly into EU even if they would otherwise be banned by the main list. An airline from "unsafe country" can get an exception provided they prove their operations are safe. At the present time, all such exceptions are granted for specific aircraft rather than airline as a whole. For example, Air Koryo (out of all airlines!) is allowed to fly their Tu-204 into the EU, even though North Korea is on the "bad list".
I’m wondering if the EU might put the the Venezuelan and Suriname airlines on the list to signal that they’re unsafe for EU citizens to fly, invest in or insure. But as others have pointed out there are EU state territories in the neighborhood, albeit with varying levels of coverage from an EU law perspective.
French Guyana has a very high level of coverage by EU laws. I'm not sure if there are any special exceptions but they're not a loosely affiliated territory.
Commercial air travel is considered one of the safest modes of transportation, with a current fatality risk so low that one would need to take a flight every day for over 25,000 years to have a fair shot at being in a fatal accident. However, there are still weak links in commercial air safety, such as the 128 airlines on the European Union's air safety list, which bans airlines from flying to, from, or over any EU member state. Most bans have more to do with the airlines' home countries than the airlines themselves, as international standards for government oversight set by the International Civil Aviation Authority (ICAO) are not met. These standards cover eight critical elements, including having a civil aviation authority, qualified staff of inspectors, pilot licensing systems, and a way for the government to identify and address safety issues at individual airlines. However, ICAO standards do not concern themselves with individual airlines' safety, but rather with ensuring that a country's airlines meet these standards. The majority of the airlines on the EU's safety list are banned due to their countries' failure to meet ICAO standards, while five airlines have records so concerning that they are banned specifically and exceptionally. These include Iran's Aseman Airlines, Venezuela's AV Airlines, Cameroon's Bluewing Airlines, and Air Zimbabwe.
About decision making in the European Commission, the name of the list was likely subject to what is known as an interservice consultation. This happens when the unit responsible for the relevant proposals consults a group of counterparts in other units or directorates (either via email, meeting, or several of both). I'd wager that at the request of the External Action Service, the name they settled on has the least possibility of causing any diplomatic disruptions. But this is pure speculation based on personal experience.
It might be from a airline that got banned because it was from one of the "bad countries" (BTW I have never heard of this airline, this is just a suggestion)
One of the airlines on the list is “Canadian Airways Congo.” The airline operates in the Congo and as far as I can tell has no connection with Canada. As a Canadian I am very confused.
The fight between the iraqi pilot was about politics, religion or money. My guess is that they captain first revealed that he made 25 times more money than the first officer. The first officer the joked that the captain should buy him a beer every day when they are working. The captain then joked that he could do that when . The first officer got angry and started shouting. The captain told him to calm down and remember the words of allah. He then started talking about the benevolence of sunni/shia but the first officer was shia/sunni. The first officer had enough and could see no other way out other than punching the captain.
Blue wing airlines's home airport's name is even better if you know that "zorg en hoop" translates to "care and hope". Hope you survive flying with them, indeed.
A notoriously dangerous Venezuelan airline Conviasa flies between Caracas and Moscow-Vnukovo. By the way, this is one out of a total of five transatlantic flights out of Russia, and the only one not operated by a Russian airline.
Avior could very well have flown to French Guiana which is within EU jurisdiction as part of France. That explains both South American carriers honestly.
And still, flying with any of these airlines is probably safer than driving a car in the safest country in the world. Which gives you some perspective.
Actually an airline named Aerosucre has saftey so bad they are not allowed to carry passengers and have to stay as strictly cargo. They overload their planes causing dangerous take-offs and have crashed over half their fleet. One of the crashes they were illegally carrying passengers. They also are likely transporting illegal substances too. Luckly there is no chance you will ever be on a flight with them as they are not allowed to carry passengers.
Wait, Gatwick is England, and the UK is no longer in the EU. So, does the UK still defer to the EU banned airlines list? Or did they create their own list and also ban them? or does Air Zimbabwe now operate flights between Gatwick and Harare?
The airlines from Venezuela and Suriname wouldn’t have to leave their continent to use EU airspace because of their proximity to French Guiana, which explains why the EU cares about small South American carriers that don’t operate flights to Europe.
Good point. That probably makes it a pain seeing as French Guiana and the Dutch Antilles are so close to Venezuela.
Surinam Airways flies on Amsterdam every other day so I’m pretty sure they’re allowed in the EU
@@MrJimheerenbut that isn’t the airline which is banned in the EU
Please do a video about Suriname, maybe it’s crazy demographics and ethnic groups.
Does that rule apply in French Guiana? I know a lot of EU rules are looser or not applicable to overseas territories.
Then again, ESA does a lot of stuff out of there so they, at least, definitely care about its airspace.
Yes, commercial aviation is extremely safe. But one of the main reasons it is so safe is because of strict oversight as described in this video. I am glad that I can buy a plane ticket in Europe and know that the airline has properly trained pilots, properly maintained aircraft, etc.
And yet, a german pilot still managed to crash a plane in the alps a few years ago. We may have tighter « safety measures » but we’re probably the first continent where that happened 😞
@@c0mpu73rguyHah! "First" where somebody flew into the mountain?
@@c0mpu73rguy Well the first continent where a pilote suicide (outside of war) happened was indeed Europe, but it was in the Soviet Union in 1972. The first commercial flight with a pilot suicide was in Africa.
Germanwings was absolutely not the first crash of its kind. By that I mean - one pilot leaves the flight deck, other pilot locks then out and crashes the plane. That HAS HAPPENED before the Germanwings crash!
@@erich930 I'm not sure how to feel about that.
Worth noting that it’s not only EU members but any country part of the European Common Aviation Area which includes quite a few non-EU countries.
To be fair that's also kind of pragmatism a bit. Like what are you going to do with a permit to fly over Switzerland if you don't have a EU permit 😄😄
Searched it get even more with Euro-Mediterranean aviation agreements
But here not Eu Members Georgia, Ukraine, Armenia, Moldova
Euro-Mediterranean aviation agreements (EMAAs)[edit]
Moreover, a system of association agreements with the ECAA has been enacted for the Mediterranean partnership countries.
In force[edit]
Morocco signed its Euro-Mediterranean Aviation Agreement (EMAA) with the EU on 12 December 2006 with the Kingdom of Morocco.[8]
Jordan signed its Euro-Mediterranean Aviation Agreement (EMAA) with the EU on 15 December 2010.[9]
Israel signed its Euro-Mediterranean Aviation Agreement (EMAA) with the EU on 10 June 2013.[10]
Under negotiation[edit]
Tunisia started its negotiations on 27 June 2013.[11]
Lebanon: on 9 October 2008, the Council of the European Union adopted a decision authorising the European Commission to open negotiations.
Algeria: also on 9 December 2008, the Council of the European Union adopted a decision authorising the European Commission to open negotiations, though the negotiations with Algeria have not started yet.
Island Monkey again
Brexit[edit]
Because the UK has left the European Union (Brexit), the UK is no longer part of the Common Aviation Area. Unless permission or new treaties with the UK are made, aviation to and from the UK may stop[needs update].[12] There was a delay in this hard Brexit until the end of 2020, because the Brexit withdrawal agreement states that most EU rules continue to be valid for the UK during 2020. However, EU has approved regulations 2019/494 and 2019/505 in order to secure air traffic between UK and EU plus EEA.[13] Also, the British government has taken various steps to ensure the continuation of air travel, such as an open skies agreement with the United States.[14] The British airline EasyJet which has many flights outside the UK has set up a subsidiary in Austria (easyJet Europe) whilst keeping its headquarters in Luton, England.
@@DarkHarlequin But it is not only Swtizerland, it includes other countries such as Norway, Iceland, Greenland, as well as a lot of Mediterranean countries not part of the EU.
@@Janoip I knew quite a few of these but I was unaware that UK airlines opened branches in Austria, I would have expected Ireland if anything as many other European airlines are based out of there.
@@DarkHarlequinDrive the plane to switzerland and fly exclusively in swiss airspace of course
3:50 As a dutch person "Zorg en Hoop Airfield" is a very uncool name for an airport. It just means care and hope. lol
Me: Ya know, Hoop kinda sounds like Hope! I bet the Dutch word for Care is very similar!
The Dutch: ......Wanna know what Zorg means?
@@GojiMet86I mean, in German, the equivalent word is „Sorge”, but „zorg” definitely sounds like some sort of alien from an 80s film.
Zorg can also be translated as ‘worry’ (noun). That meaning seems to fit better here, paired with ‘hope’. But I don’t know what the people who named the place were thinking.
That's actually cooler than an airport named after a President, a small town in the middle of the countryside that just so happens to be the closest place, or nothing at all.
I get the same way about station names in Germany. They sound cool when you don't understand them.
I remember when my country Indonesia's flagship and one of the biggest airlines Garuda Indonesia suffered decline across the late 1990's and 2000's, which culminated in Flight 200, which crashed during landing. This led to all Indonesian airlines being banned off of EU airspace. Fortunately, Garuda managed to clean up their act and introduced sweeping overhauls and reforms that revitalized it as an airline, and the ban was eventually lifted.
Yeah it took decades after that shooting at an Indonesian 🇮🇩 residence and other sketchy practices and I hope to visit Indonesia and fly on their airlines someday as Indo has a huge aviation industry now a days especially since they’re a series of islands separated from each other!
Cheers my friend 🥂
In fairness, Mandala had like 5 major crashes in 5 years and was still allowed to fly by the Indonesian Authorities. It wasn't just flight 200 that caused the country-wide ban.
Yep but Philippines are different, because from 2010 to 2013, all airlines in the Philippines are banned in the EU because of safety concerns but did not last the ban until 2013 so luckily KLM is a substitution for Manila-Amsterdam route
Yeah now it is a fancy airline
Unlike Lion which still seems to be unsafe.
It breaks my heart seeing Air Zimbabwe on that list as it was once a good airline in the 80s and 90s with an impeccable safety record. Flew on it many times to England, Germany, Greece and Cyprus during that era before all the politics ruined it and ultimately leading it being banned in Europe.
they got rid of all the whites and replaced them with the blacks.
Guessing the economy also ruined it. Zimbabwe had a really bad case of hyperinflation going for a while.
@@MarsJenkar The airline is run as a parastatal therefore some of the government's policies had an impacted it. It just saddens me because I saw how good it was in its hey day. One of the lowest flypasts of a Boeing 707 famously caught on film was from the Air Zim fleet.
@@tarideanare you from Zimbabwe?
This is why the whole collapse of Rhodesia is so sad. It was on a clear path to success. Zimbabwe would benefit from the work that was done for a while but then obviously would later face really bad economic problems once they couldn't maintain what was left for them
I feel like Sam would actually spend his gambling winnings on attending an aviation safety meeting.
He 100% would!
I would watch it on Nebula.. aviation safety meeting the game.
@@ChadWilson Between two TH-cam channels, he has 6m subscribers. He's a part-owner of Nebula which has at least 700,000 paying members. Even if his dividend was just 10c/month/user, that's $70k a month. Even if it were $0.01/user/month, that's $7k/month. I think there would be better causes for a GoFundMe rather than paying a content creator to attend an industry event that he would be able to claim as a business deduction, including associated costs (travel, accomodation etc).
I thought it was gonna be “I gambled my last $800 trying to get out of Singapore” but that’s even better.
The real reason he and Josephbnever left Singapore
A Venezuelan airline being banned from operating in or over the EU is not as odd as it sounds at first, if you consider that the ban automatically extends to the European Overseas Countries and Territories, and that these include Bonaire and Curaçao located off the Venezuelan coast (Aruba being the closest at about 27 km/17 miles from Venezuela). Prior to the ban Avior was actually operating flights to both Aruba and Curaçao.
Similarly, Suriname-based Blue Wings operates some types which can reach several airports in European Overseas Countries and Territories out of their home base at Paramaribo, these being Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao, Sint-Eustatius, Saint Barthélemy, Saba and Sint Maarten (all within range of their singular Cessna 406 Caravan II; and all but Aruba in range of their Cessna 208 Caravan).
Aruba ane Curaçao have fully independent Aviation Authorities, EASA has no jurisdiction on the islands. Avior kept flying to those islands way after they were banned from flying to the EU. And they're still flying to Curaçao.
And blue wings has never flown or intended to fly to the Dutch Caribbean islands, and their aircraft certainly do not have the range to fly from Suriname to there nonstop
You missed French Guiana in those lists. From Suriname, French Guiana would be closer than any those Caribbean destinations.
2:30 - that's because Ireland has long had a plane rental industry based out of Shannon Airport, basically the one of biggest in the world. This has to do with it once being where Atlantic stopovers happened and is also related to the origins of duty free shipping and Irish coffee.
You could basically to a whole video on how pivotal Ireland has been to the airline industry.
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Aaaaaaand it's a tax haven
The U.S. FAA has a similar no-fly list, where they can downgrade an entire country because of the safety of their airlines, restricting or even prohibiting airlines of that country from flying to the United States.
All Armenian registered airlines besides FLYONE Armenia are banned in the EU
That doesn’t sound similar, it sounds exactly the same
@@SenorBigDong69 It is exactly the same in purpose but only similar in content, scope, and management.
But you know, it's the FAA. They don't exactly have a track record for being unbiased. Remember the Max 8? The FAA refused to ground the damn thing even when everyone else already had. I'm sure they'd have done the same for a Chinese, Russian, or British manufractured plane.
@@SenorBigDong69 It's not the same because the EU prohibits flying over EU territory, the US prohibits flying in US air control.
US air traffic control, for example, includes the entire 4000km between Hawaii and California of pure water.
I suppose in theory there's little repercussions, the US military won't shoot down a plane of civilians over the Atlantic, though nobody has tried.
'Zorg en Hoop' actually means 'Care and Hope' in Dutch. Suriname used to be a Dutch colony
Dutch is such an unserious language
@@Raprada only if you butcher the pronunciation like in this video 😂
You could also translate it as ‘worry and hope’, which is way funnier in the context of this video
@@Rapradait's the most literal language. What did the Dutch name that "wild beast" in Africa when they first saw it? Well, wildebeest. Can you guess what the Dutch translation is??
I'll just leave a comment here to get notified for anything else people have to say about my country. Ps. I completely forgot about the bluewing crashes. Those happened when I was 9 years old
Russian Airlines register their aircraft in Bermuda to avoid paying the high taxes set by the Russian Government on non Russian built aircraft. Aeroflot Russian Airlines created a subsidiary in Bermuda, then register their aircraft in Bermuda and then lease their own aircraft to the patent company (Aeroflot.) This is similar to cruise lines registering their ships in a different country then they are headquartered.
And the reason many were registered in Ireland is simply that... Ireland owns a majority of all commercial aircraft in the world. Or, rather, the companies who own the majority are based in Ireland (more than 75% of the 20 largest leasing companies in the world are HQ'd in Ireland and about a quarter of them are home grown Irish companies). Ireland's a natural hub for aviation - closest part of Europe to North America, low taxes, neutral, lots of local expertise etc. Europe's largest airline (RyanAir) is also Irish, though it doesn't do long haul flights so it's probably not familiar to anyone outside of the Europe and North Africa.
I don’t know who told you that Russian planes are registered in Bermuda, cause the video certainly did not… Russian planes are registered in Russia in a Russian system, that’s why their registration numbers begin with RA- (or then followed by a 5-digit number. And Bermuda and Ireland, as said in the video, issues safety certificates (and not even to Russia) not aircraft registration.
it is sad that iraqi airways is on the banned list nowadays. It's one of the oldest airlines in the middle east, and used to take pride in it's safety record, and was one of the most prestigious companies to work for in iraq for decades...
they probably were not banned for their lack of safety, probably more of their old planes that are in use still, but heres to hoping they make it off that banned list
@@grainer3878 nope, the fleet is almost all new planes ordered from Boeing, Airbus, and Bombardier after 2003. The old 747s pictured in the videos had been retired many years ago, and were sold for scrap recently.
It's simply the corruption in the country where people get jobs by nepotism or bribing those in a positon to hire for such jobs.
The ban was lifted a couple of weeks ago
Didn't they restart flights to Germany?
I Think they started flying routes in Europe recently
Fighting while flying a plane sounds a good idea for a game
More likely to just be a level though
I saw an animated gif of one male pilot Ben deingover and snîeuff!ñg the other guys crôeutch (he had only undoer garments on) so I guess that’s what happens in the cockpit, also the artist is artistic jinsky
Microsoft Fight Simulator
Round one. Fight! Gravity wins.
3:19 Avior does not have to operate flights to Europe to be affected by the Aviation Safety List. French Guiana is right there in South America, but part of the EU. So are some islands in the region.
Again, it's just more of Europe getting into others' business *instead of* minding theirs.
@@Code7Unltdsee also USA, PRC, the Orcs
Avior did intend to fly to Spain and got added to the list before that was possible
@@Code7Unltd Mandating who can and cannot fly over their own territory pretty much is "minding your own business" though.
@@jonathanbeaumont3021 they actually did, for less than a couple of years, in 2016-17. Then they got banned and left a lot of tourist stranded.
0:39 It's okay, I speak bureaucrat! Allow me to translate. It says: "That's not what it's called, it's called the 'Community list of air carriers which are subject to an operating ban within the Community'."
Flying is so safe precisely because there is a lot of oversight in the industry, and the punishments for ignoring safety regulations are brutal, for both airlines and manufacturers. That is quite some motivation to make sure you abide by the highest standards.
It is shocking however that a bunch of the budget airlines like Ryanair, Sun Country, Spirit, etc aren't on here. They're just as bad as these 5 "really bad ones"
@@IkLms11 b ryanair you mean the airline with 500 planes flying 170 million passengers a year with exactly 0 fatal incidents in its history?
Boeing definitely show just how great the '''oversight'' really is don't they. Apparently another one has just been reported this morning has having serious issues involving fires etc. Yup, really safe manufacturer with lots of oversight ensuring they're safe. (NOT)
"oversights" such as doors randomly exploding outta your plane for example even tho you very well knew about the issues and having to silence whistleblowers lolol
I had the displeasure of fly in UTair in Russia. The cabin pressurization system wasn't working properly and the pilots had to fly using oxygen tanks, but they didn't cancel the flight and didn't bother telling us either. When we landed, everyone onboard had CO2 headaches.
let’s see how sam brings planes into this video
im having a hard time seeing how he couldnt LOL
@@WantedForTwerking well, most go away from governments and lack of oversight, and most of the rest from being Russia, and then he could just mention one of the other 5 like an example instead of explanations and only explain the pilots fighting part.
1 second in and Sam already couldn't help but make a comment about aviation
The Wendover guy being eager to get into an air industry meeting is rather on brand
Do you mean Sam, because he is the one who runs almost everything.
@@RazorLight_YT As in what? He runs multiple channels?
@@watema3381 He runs Wendover Productions, Jet Lag: The Game, and Extremities
As for the Bermuda and Irish registered airplanes in Russia, I believe it has to do with more favorable insurance and regulatory terms, and also the locations of the lessors. Similar to a “flag of convenience” on ships.
and probably taxes
Not in the case of Ireland! It's to do with Ireland's massive plane rental industry. The reason that exists is due to geography.
Ireland has a number of large respected aircraft leasing companies like AerCap that actually do move the planes in and out of Ireland as their base. It's perfectly legitimate for them to be licensed and regulated from there.
They've always shared responsibility for transatlantic planning, ATC and emergencies with the Newfoundland province in Canada.
So they're a perfectly legitimate aviation hub. They do hand out weird shady tax breaks for tech firms but it doesn't really have anything to do with their aviation related efforts.
It’s because in Russia aircraft not manufactured in Russia are way more expensive to register. So Aeroflot in particular got around it by registering their aeroplanes in Bermuda
Fun fact, Zorg en Hoop is Dutch for "Care and Hope". One thing you want to have in an airline, and another you do not wish to rely on.
Formerly was Philippines and Indonesia when these two carriers are banned to fly in the EU because of safety issues
From 2010 to 2013, Philippine airline carriers(PAL, Cebu Pacific, etc.) are banned from flying to EU because of safety issues so KLM is a substitute from Manila to Amsterdam even these carriers removed from blacklist in 2013 it was still operating today by KLM
Indonesia airline carriers(Garuda Indonesia, Lion Air, etc.) are banned from flying to the EU from 2008 to 2016 because the number of plane crashes are occured in Indonesia and failure of airline safety standards but eventually in 2018 all carriers are removed from EU blacklist
I hope Lion air didn't suffer for Boeings conduct.
@@jamesgorman5241 Yeah Lion Air has suffer the most crashes involved Boeing being recently was in 2018 Lion Air 610 tragedy caused by Boeing 737 Max MCAS but hopefully Lion Air will fly with safer Boeing planes to make sure never happened again
Important to mention that French Guiana is not a French territory like the Falklands are for the UK. French Guiana and Réunion ARE France. That's why so many airlines that operate outside of Europe are banned, they fly into the non-European parts of the EU.
Was legit surprised Malaysia Airlines was NOT on the list for a moment, until I realized Flight 17 was thrown out the window by Russians and Flight 370 just kinda Bermuda-Triangled itself over the Indian Ocean. Very tough luck.
Flight 370 was most-likely Bermuda Triangled by one of the pilots; they found suspicious flight sim routes and search data on his personal computer.
@@SportyMabamba You're right - the only plausible explanation (and one agreed upon by most experts) is that MH370 was deliberate. The captain depressurised the plane, killing everyone else on board, and with a bit of careful flying, once out of radar range, he turned south and just flew it until it ran out of fuel. The only thing we'll never really know is why.
@@RealPayNoAttention There are allegations that he was angry about politics. However, it's rather hard to prove.
@@RealPayNoAttention often times, even when a "why" is provided for a suicide it still doesn't really make sense. Suicidal people are rarely thinking logically. I'd say his life insurance policy played a role in why he did it the way he did it, though.
Even with those two incidents it’s still one of the safest airlines
Both the maps at 0:50 and 5:23 are wrong. The European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) comprises of all EU member states, plus Iceland, Norway, Liechtenstein and Switzerland. The UK has left EASA since Brexit, but its aviation laws are based still on EASA.
(Andorra, Monaco and Vatican City have no airports so are not EASA member states)
Nepal Airlines was banned from flying to Europe but they used to fly in the 1980 but got banned in 2013 because of serious security concerns
Oh man.
Sam made a plane video.
Nature is healing.
I've been a fan of this channel for a couple of years now, but I have to comment here. As an Iraqi, I feel deeply offended by this video's remarks about the safety of Iraqi airlines. They should be put on a permanent ban category of their own, not in a generic, run of the mill ban list.
Got me in the first half ngl.
Hey sam, my dad works at the EU. It’s not called “No-Fly-List” since it’s a very harsh and rough term. The “No-Fly” also is already used by the NATO, for restricting airspace, not airlines. That should be it!
Those certificates of airworthyness of the Russian airliners were issued by Ireland and Bermuda (2:27) because they were leased to Russia by Irish and Bermudan leasing companies. simple
In addition to the main list of banned carriers, The European Commission also publishes Annex B, which is a list of air carriers where the whole airline is not banned, but some of its fleet are not allowed to fly in EU airspace. For instance, Iran Air, which is one of the carriers on the Annex B list, can fly all of their aircraft within the EU, with the exception of their 747s that are listed on their Air Operations Certificate.
Nothing gives you the feeling of a safe flight then when flying from Pretoria to Cape Town, hitting slight turbulence, and having multiple ceiling panels come down on top of you. This happened to me flying South African Air.
Isn't that like a 2 hour flight
I flew once with Asman airlines in a local trip with in Iran , there was smoke in the airplane cabin midair! Everyone was calm like it is a regular occurrence 😐
FINALLY a good old Wenedover video about very minor details of the Airline industry!
I was worried that after all the Videos about Arms and War and Military logistics we needed to go check on Sam and Amy if they were ok 😖🥳
What's up with the graphic at 2:13? You say 101 of 108 carriers but the red shows 227 of 256 dots. The 22 dots from Russia are actually 24 blue dots. The 5 green dots are okay.
I have some family that was on Iraqi Airways recently, and apparently the A220 they were on had an engine problem and had to go back to Baghdad. It’s (sorta) normal but that’s on a NEW model.
How is controlling what you allow in your airspace considered not minding your own business? I feel like that's definitely your business to care about.
I feel like you just completely misunderstood the joke. That airline doesn't go anywhere near the airspace.
It does though. There is EU land in South America. But even if there weren't, banning them now pre-emptively stops them from ever trying to fly to the EU.@olivercharles2930
Blindly accepting terms and conditions can sometimes be a good thing, because there have been some rulings where legalese has been rendered unenforceable precisely because no one reads it.
That's a dangerously stupid take
@@firecatskylar I agree that it’s not good. Call it the Legalese Gambit.
I remember Pakistan airways was banned from EU airspace a few years ago because the majority of their pilots literally had no aviation licenses or any prior experience of flying planes
Had my best ever meal on PIA in the 90's, survived the meal & flight😅.
That's explains too much about my experience aboard those airless boxes...
Not that it's that much better here
I flew with PIA last year from Dubai to Lahore. There was some skirmish in the front part of the plane after landing, the crew had to switch off the lights to stop the fight. Quite an experience. But the food was good! 😂
0:15 i think if you fly nonstop for years your Life Expectacy is shortened the most by radiation.
*You forgot Pakistan International Airlines.* The incompetence of Pakistan's Civil Aviation Authority definitely contributed heavily to the ban, but PIA is specifically banned.
>Pakistan
>incompetence
No competence and Pakistan are like peas of a pod. Or mangoes to Mao.
It's not surprising to know that they've become a new hotbed for India's customary tech-support scams.
Nope, they're no longer banned
Fairly sure Pakistani licenses weren't recognised by much of the west for a while too but all is good now apparently ban over
*They passed preliminary* ICAO inspections and are in negations with EASA to lift the European ban in order to increase its sell-off value in a privatisation effort. The airline have announced an expected European reprieve in mid-May, but negotiations remain ongoing. Moreover, Pakistan is now listed by the FAA as an IASA Category 2 country, which means any airline under the jurisdiction of Pakistan's civil aviation authority remains banned from US airspace, not just PIA
Something cool about Avior though: They still fly a 737-200 that won't reach Europe anyway (and it will be 40 years old in May 2024). But because it can reach French Guyana and Aruba/Curacao/Bonaire, the ban might have anything to do with it.
Avior actually had an A340-300 that they planned to use for flight to Europe, but once they got banned they gave the Aircraft to Conviasa
Read the terms and conditions at 5:47
- sign away rights to likeness
- likeness may be reanimated as an AI meat puppet
- in exchange for putting silly filters on your face for internet brownie points
- copy paste for length
- also there's apparently an Easter egg in the Chicago parking meters video that's on the side of a stock footage parking meter about halfway in and Sam is concerned that we missed out on it
That's everything right? Don't want Sam to think we missed anything here!
3:50 zorg en hoop airport translates to care and hope airport, which makes the name even more wholsome
So some mistakes I saw: The part thst is regulated is actually the European common aviation area.
For some reason one of the maps shows the UK being a member and UK not, most likely outdated.
That aviation area includes French Guinea, meaning they do care about South American carriers for a reason.
The graphics and effects, top notch this one (my favorite is the dramatic reenactment of Blue Wings Airlines)
5:23 Man, is it good to see an EU map that includes the U.K.
Reminds me of the good old days before we royally screwed ourselves over.
5:41 prime candidate for the mistakes recap, commercial planes are made of aluminum, not steel.
Even aluminum is kinda outdated, look at the Boeing 787. The outer hull is mostly carbon composites.
You're putting your life in the hands two complete strangers whenever you're boarding a plane. It is somewhat quite thrilling to think of...
I remember a local airlines received the no-fly to Europe and i was like wuuuuttt they don't even leave the country
5:42 I don’t know what world you fly around in Sam, but I think every airplane that I have ever ridden in has been an aluminum tube. Not a steel one.
If we had more people like you, he wouldn't have to leave any actual mistakes in the video to make lesser pedants write up their corrections in the comments.
Maybe you haven't flown in a while? Aluminum has fallen out of favor; Boeing and Airbus use carbon fiber and composite materials now.
3:50 - Zorg en Hoop is “care and hope” in Dutch.
It’s why their black list is relevant:
Curaçao, Bonaire, Aruba and some others are part of Kingdom of the Netherlands. Airspace that follows the EU sanction list.
Lol, "Zorg en Hoop airfield" literally translates as "Care and Hope airfield". What a great initiative to try to reduce fatal crashes from the airline, being based out of there!
I'm so JAZZED to eat eggs, but not wash the dishes that I used tiny paper plates to have my daily eggs. I still have to wash the fork, but it makes it easy.
Ryanair: What about me 👉🥺👈
Those Ryan air landings go crazyb
As an iranian who has flown on aseman airlines many times, i can confirm that they give you a cool miniature plane if you pay extra
100% worth the risk
2:33 i am so confused thats an a350 with 2 floors and 4 engines
Well either that or they don't have USB C ports, lol.
In all seriousness, I'm actually really happy the EU is making apple do that.
Edit: fixed a stupid typo, lol.
UBC ports, huh
usb c*
@@TheRTX3090 your right, I'm an idot, sorry for the typo, lol.
@@EpicgamerwinXD6669 you're* idoit*🤓🤓
I can't BELIEVE Air Peace is actually allowed in the EU
4:29 is that the snack zone background?
I'm shocked Air New Zealand is not on that list.
Multiple A320 and A321 aircraft out of service due to engine issues, and a Air New Zealand truck crashed into a 787 Dreamliner.
Also, I've flown with them 8 times and twice we've had to change aircraft after boarding due to mechanical issues. A320 and ATR-72
Air New Zealand doesn't fly to Europe anymore they terminated flights to Frankfurt in 2001 partially due to 9/11 and their Auckland-Los Angeles-Heathrow route was terminated in 2020
Lol you're kidding surely?
@@angustangney3227, I'm not kidding
Is having planes grounded due to mechanical issues got an airline on the list then no airline would fly
They stopped flying to Heathrow before 2020.
Seems one of the rules is 'ban every company with a bird for a logo.'
5:22 UK is back in the EU
5:48 -
"We will own your likeness and may try to re-animate you as an AI meat-puppet BUT you
can put some silly filters on your face and get internet points for it. Now I just need to make
this so long you don't read it. I'm just going to copy the previous lines. We will own your likeness and may
try to re-animate you as an AI meat-puppet BUT you can put some silly filters on your face
and get internet points for it. Now I just need to make this so long you don't read it. I'm just
going to copy the previous lines. Also, nobody noticed the easter egg in the Chicago
Parking Meters episode, I'm not upset... I'm just concerned that the audience may be living
their lives without valuable information located on the side of a stock footage parking meter
about halfway in."
Kim: you are fired
Emirates : you’re fired
SAS: you’re fired
Norwegian : you’re fired
Qatar : fired
PIA: you’re fired
Ryanair: your hired
Aerosucre is on all Air Safety Lists
5:23 does this map suggest the United Kingdom is part of the EU?
yeah and Cyprus, Malta and Croatia aren't
PIA: you’re fired
Ryanair: your hired
In regards to airlines not flying to Europe, there are two reasons. One has already been mentioned by another poster (EU isn't limited to Europe, there are EU territories in Carribean, Africa and South America). The second is that just because an airline doesn't regularly fly to the EU doesn't mean they won't at some point decide to do so - it could be as simple as a charter flight. Hence the need to cover them with the ban.
Another thing interesting to mention is that there is another list which is an annex to the first list (yay!). This is sort of "a positive list" which allows airlines to fly into EU even if they would otherwise be banned by the main list. An airline from "unsafe country" can get an exception provided they prove their operations are safe. At the present time, all such exceptions are granted for specific aircraft rather than airline as a whole. For example, Air Koryo (out of all airlines!) is allowed to fly their Tu-204 into the EU, even though North Korea is on the "bad list".
I’m wondering if the EU might put the the Venezuelan and Suriname airlines on the list to signal that they’re unsafe for EU citizens to fly, invest in or insure. But as others have pointed out there are EU state territories in the neighborhood, albeit with varying levels of coverage from an EU law perspective.
French Guyana has a very high level of coverage by EU laws. I'm not sure if there are any special exceptions but they're not a loosely affiliated territory.
"Babe come quick. New Half As Interesting video with aviation content just dropped"
Commercial air travel is considered one of the safest modes of transportation, with a current fatality risk so low that one would need to take a flight every day for over 25,000 years to have a fair shot at being in a fatal accident. However, there are still weak links in commercial air safety, such as the 128 airlines on the European Union's air safety list, which bans airlines from flying to, from, or over any EU member state. Most bans have more to do with the airlines' home countries than the airlines themselves, as international standards for government oversight set by the International Civil Aviation Authority (ICAO) are not met. These standards cover eight critical elements, including having a civil aviation authority, qualified staff of inspectors, pilot licensing systems, and a way for the government to identify and address safety issues at individual airlines. However, ICAO standards do not concern themselves with individual airlines' safety, but rather with ensuring that a country's airlines meet these standards. The majority of the airlines on the EU's safety list are banned due to their countries' failure to meet ICAO standards, while five airlines have records so concerning that they are banned specifically and exceptionally. These include Iran's Aseman Airlines, Venezuela's AV Airlines, Cameroon's Bluewing Airlines, and Air Zimbabwe.
Ireland and Bermuda because that's where the leasing companies are.
About decision making in the European Commission, the name of the list was likely subject to what is known as an interservice consultation. This happens when the unit responsible for the relevant proposals consults a group of counterparts in other units or directorates (either via email, meeting, or several of both). I'd wager that at the request of the External Action Service, the name they settled on has the least possibility of causing any diplomatic disruptions. But this is pure speculation based on personal experience.
What about the airline that hired pilots with fake licenses? That's a hell of a reason to get banned.
It might be from a airline that got banned because it was from one of the "bad countries" (BTW I have never heard of this airline, this is just a suggestion)
I think it was a Pakistani airline - possibly PIA
They did get banned think the ban was lifted now though
Crap, I didn't realize brooms and carpets were on the Air Safety List. There goes my vacation plans.
One of the airlines on the list is “Canadian Airways Congo.” The airline operates in the Congo and as far as I can tell has no connection with Canada. As a Canadian I am very confused.
As a Zimbabwean I was not surprised to see our airline there😂
The fight between the iraqi pilot was about politics, religion or money. My guess is that they captain first revealed that he made 25 times more money than the first officer. The first officer the joked that the captain should buy him a beer every day when they are working. The captain then joked that he could do that when . The first officer got angry and started shouting. The captain told him to calm down and remember the words of allah. He then started talking about the benevolence of sunni/shia but the first officer was shia/sunni. The first officer had enough and could see no other way out other than punching the captain.
if flying is so safe why come there are 240 episodes of mayday and that doesn't even include the one they turned into a tom hanks movie
How many road traffic accidents are there in the entire world in a year?
That's your answer.
Blue wing airlines's home airport's name is even better if you know that "zorg en hoop" translates to "care and hope".
Hope you survive flying with them, indeed.
A notoriously dangerous Venezuelan airline Conviasa flies between Caracas and Moscow-Vnukovo. By the way, this is one out of a total of five transatlantic flights out of Russia, and the only one not operated by a Russian airline.
1:18 devestating for airline enthusiasts. like that wendover productions guy, Whoever that is.
Avior could very well have flown to French Guiana which is within EU jurisdiction as part of France. That explains both South American carriers honestly.
And still, flying with any of these airlines is probably safer than driving a car in the safest country in the world.
Which gives you some perspective.
3:38 continent’s long history of non binding their own business for the concern of others
"Zorg en Hoop" could be translated to "Concern and Hope"
Which is indeed a cool name for an airport, as long as you're not booking a flight from there
Error in the video: at the 5:23 mark the map shows the UK as part of the EU. (as much as I wish it were still in the EU)
For some reason, EU chose a 2^7 long list, so any airplane breaking rules now are free to do so and won't get on the list.
5:40. Of course we would be. Planes are aluminium, a steel tube would propable be a submarine. And these are dangerous.
I was a fan of you, now I’m a whole damn AC
I love the irony of a 'Murican, of all things, calling out Europeans for not minding their own business. Hilarious.
Especially when the ban is their own business? The ban isn't on them being allowed to fly outside of the territories included.
The hundreds of parked unmarked A380s just sitting there.
I like the person writing "We will not fly planes that don't have working engines." in the background, it's funny
Hang on.... is that an Iraqi Airlines plane in the background at about 4:17 that's covered in rust?!
Actually an airline named Aerosucre has saftey so bad they are not allowed to carry passengers and have to stay as strictly cargo. They overload their planes causing dangerous take-offs and have crashed over half their fleet. One of the crashes they were illegally carrying passengers. They also are likely transporting illegal substances too. Luckly there is no chance you will ever be on a flight with them as they are not allowed to carry passengers.
Wait, Gatwick is England, and the UK is no longer in the EU. So, does the UK still defer to the EU banned airlines list? Or did they create their own list and also ban them? or does Air Zimbabwe now operate flights between Gatwick and Harare?
While not impossible, it doesn't seem like Harare to Gatwick without going over EU airspace is very practical. Maybe with a stopover in Iceland.
@@ConorLalor What about Gibraltar?
We adopted all EASA regulations when we left the EU and so also have an air safety list they are very similar but not the same
The UK has chosen the way each regulation which passed while being in the EU still apply, but they can be changed in the future.
@@ConorLalorIceland is in EASA.
That in-flight meal was just ... sad.
I love how the exploding plane at the end has the Air France livery. EU LOL