Graham Light Clears Team Force of Cheating Indy US. Nationals 2009.

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  • Graham Light Clears Team Force of Cheating Indy US. Nationals 2009.

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  • @timothybutler9859
    @timothybutler9859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I REMEMBER THAT!! I LOVED WHEN JOHN TOLD TONY: " YOU'RE JUST MAD BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER KICKED YOUR ASS!! " 🤣🤣🤣

    • @deeremeyer1749
      @deeremeyer1749 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He said my kid. Not my daughter.

  • @davidgeorge1294
    @davidgeorge1294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Dunn's making no friends for telling the truth! He's the best.

    • @larryhurley2314
      @larryhurley2314 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mike Dunn would have did exactly the same thing if he was in the same position as John Force.

  • @whiskeybuilder6335
    @whiskeybuilder6335 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Worry less about who is losing races and beat the car that stages next to you.

  • @tonivants82
    @tonivants82 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I go to listen and watch. There's nothing like standing trackside and feeling the ground shake, your head rattle and your chest pound as two 11,000 hp nitro machines speed by you. Intensity at it's finest

  • @jeffcanyafixiy
    @jeffcanyafixiy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Knowing someone cheated and being able to prove it conclusively,,, are two vastly different things.

    • @brianadams429
      @brianadams429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Schumacher team Beckman had lane choice , took the greasy left lane that no one with lane choice took because it sucked. Of coarse he smoked the tires.....big surprise so Hagan won the title. Dunn or Pedragon didnt open their pieholes. If your gonna call John out on it, you should callout everyone. Sounds like Mike and Tony were a little jellous of John to me.

    • @larryhurley2314
      @larryhurley2314 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianadams429 Exacy !!!

  • @kirthooper4625
    @kirthooper4625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Tony should have tried winning.

  • @daveharryman6390
    @daveharryman6390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Graham LIght must not have seen the steering wheel data lol

  • @ELVISRN1
    @ELVISRN1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    2 best announcers NHRA will ever have .

  • @MasterChief-sl9ro
    @MasterChief-sl9ro 6 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Wait what.. they said John cheated because he picked the right lane over the left. Yet she just beat Pedregon in the right lane? Make up your damn mind!

    • @YoSuey
      @YoSuey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Because he drove out of the groove.

    • @Jay-jb2vr
      @Jay-jb2vr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@YoSuey how many times do cars drive out the groove??

    • @YoSuey
      @YoSuey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jay-jb2vrcouple dozen times an event

    • @mjcmustang
      @mjcmustang 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @hill monica how can you say that for sure? Plus, even IF he did, what difference would it make?

    • @daveharryman6390
      @daveharryman6390 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      .209 rt he cheated , deal with it lol

  • @guysmalley
    @guysmalley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What you think and what you can prove is a big difference

  • @johnnym1320
    @johnnym1320 12 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mike Dunn was one hell of a racer, he grew up around racing with his dad Jim Dunn, I think he qualifies

  • @janedunlap2714
    @janedunlap2714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    yeah he was going to gain alot of insight from that computer screen. Force steered it right out of the groove

  • @wdsr5
    @wdsr5 13 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Didnt graham light say that the next 2 cars did the same thing in the same lane after the john force run???

    • @jesschambers6551
      @jesschambers6551 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right and why ask? Why not take 30 seconds and rewatch

  • @Crazyjoker4650
    @Crazyjoker4650 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Three men around 70 years old are manning the Tech Center? What could go wrong?

    • @guysmalley
      @guysmalley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Crazy Joker what does age have to do with it?

    • @gp75motorsports
      @gp75motorsports 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@guysmalley And most likely these people have been around the sport for decades on end. If that's the case, age would make you _more_ apt for the job, not less.

    • @Vergoso_42
      @Vergoso_42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      guysmalley look at this presidential election, no matter who u support

    • @Crazyjoker4650
      @Crazyjoker4650 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Vergoso_42 I'm pretty sure the Tech Center is in better hands right now.

    • @jakethejeweler3092
      @jakethejeweler3092 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had the same thought, but all those dudes were doing was telling whoever knew how to run the system what they wanted. This looks to be right at the beginning of tech in sports, even now the only thing the announcers are allowed to handle is a pen that makes scribbles

  • @woodywoodlstein9519
    @woodywoodlstein9519 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    His reaction time is the dead giveaway

  • @maddog9659
    @maddog9659 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When you look at the overhead view it's terribly obvious that right out of the gate he drove it out of the groove..

  • @granttheobald4681
    @granttheobald4681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Funny thing is we can’t see if he turned the wheel straight right

  • @Ultimate23Dragon
    @Ultimate23Dragon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Not only did you guys blow it here, but you blew it in 2017 too at the Vegas Countdown race when John & Robert did THE EXACT SAME THING!!!!!

    • @NickyD
      @NickyD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they have blown it hell of a alot more then that

  • @NightWolfmofo07
    @NightWolfmofo07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tony did the same thing before and no one said shit.

  • @lightningfastrc
    @lightningfastrc 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Of course John did it on purpose, to help his team and at the same time screw over Tony Pedregon. He got what he wanted, and he used a good strategy to do so. A cruel but good strategy to do so. He did what he had to to get the championship and his sponsor money.

    • @redneckhippiefreak
      @redneckhippiefreak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Fire&Ice909 Pedregon is just mad cause he didn't win this round, Force handed Pedregon a championship 5 years earlier with the same Strategy. He wasn't bitching then, Was he? XD

    • @aakar88
      @aakar88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John would have wanted Ashley to win the championship , if he raced and beat Robert, she would eventually have won the championship, lost by a few points thanks to John's blunder @ Indy.

  • @michaelrichter8973
    @michaelrichter8973 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He had lane choice period!

  • @Stevonoles1
    @Stevonoles1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of course Mike Dunn and family have never had a questionable outcome in a race.

  • @theonlysquirrelybird
    @theonlysquirrelybird 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the super slo mo clip at the very end, you can see him make 2 quick jerks of the front wheels to the right after the nose comes back down lol

  • @timskiff9422
    @timskiff9422 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    John shut off the traction control

  • @ZWeinstein15
    @ZWeinstein15 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @motox2202005 Why? because he called it like he saw it?

  • @jayhickey5012
    @jayhickey5012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    He totally sandbagged it.

  • @Sub_93
    @Sub_93 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A far cry from Abu Dhabi 2021, FiA Formula 1 Championship.

  • @larryhurley2314
    @larryhurley2314 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's Mike Dunn's problem ? If he or his dad were in that same position they would have done the exact same thing !!!!

  • @metou3072
    @metou3072 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He said the race could be reversed...im assuming he meant both sides would get their runs tossed and there would be a bye next round

  • @christopherrisden4057
    @christopherrisden4057 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Stop multiple teams and stop this crap

  • @sherrigaskin5656
    @sherrigaskin5656 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    After further review, the ruling on the field stands. First down.

  • @jimwoodard927
    @jimwoodard927 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love the Forces BUT John Threw this Race . He HATES CRUISER .... That's RACIN ! and Life ...

  • @unclesquirrel6951
    @unclesquirrel6951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Personally I blame squirrels

  • @giangirardi1250
    @giangirardi1250 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Force já queimou o cérebro de tanto respirar nitrometano!!

  • @StrivingTowardsWhatIsAhead
    @StrivingTowardsWhatIsAhead 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ashley is a smoke show.

  • @insulman100
    @insulman100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I believe Force threw the race but he did it within the rules and unlike Michael Waltrip racing team Force was smart enough to keep their mouths shut

  • @vincebella3328
    @vincebella3328 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mr.forse why did you do that. Shame on you.

  • @GapedCeiling
    @GapedCeiling 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    are we ignoring what the fuck was on the monitors of the media room? those graphics looked like a bad sci fi movie lmfao

  • @michaelchalk6191
    @michaelchalk6191 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So Force cheated by intentionally losing? Weird!

    • @trailerparkcryptoking5213
      @trailerparkcryptoking5213 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      michael chalk YES!!! Did you here Graham Light state, “ multi car teams are not allowed to manipulate the outcome of the race!” Good ol John staged his car crooked (pointed at the wall) so when he hit the throttle and it shot towards the wall, he would have to lift and let his son-in-law clinch the number ten spot in the count down. It’s obvious to anyone who is not ‘star struck’ blind!!!! Manipulated outcome is classified as cheating by the NHRA!!! Yes JF is a cheater! Karma got his cheating azz when he went on a multi year losing streak and lost his major sponsors! Funny how that works! Every dog has his day!

    • @Jay-jb2vr
      @Jay-jb2vr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trailerparkcryptoking5213 Austin Coil and the Castrol team

    • @Fa_Qx2
      @Fa_Qx2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trailerparkcryptoking5213 Well, According to Graham Light, They looked at all that as well after all the drummers played that tune and found nothing but "consistent inconclusiveness".
      Appears that Karma got Karma'ed...John's still racing and winning today and enjoying life at 72...Another reason for Haters to hate and I'm not even a fan of John Force...
      ...All my [Drag Racing] heroes are either retired or deceased.

    • @trailerparkcryptoking5213
      @trailerparkcryptoking5213 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fa_Qx2 oh he very much got his karma!!! He was the KING of drag racing up to that time period! When the money got tight and he fu*ked over Austin Coil and Coil told him to get screwed, the dominating KING lost his crown and has never regained it!!! I was personally around JF from 1980-1985 and have heard hundreds of stories straight out of his mouth! Force was a zero without Coil and never ever won an NHRA national even until a year or so after he hired Coil. When he hired Coil, circa 1985, I told Force myself, “so I guess you just got serious about winning!”!!! I knew Coil’s history as part owner and crew chief of the Chi Town Hustler and two time world champion Frank Hawley. Force was flat broke after a few races with Coil and called his psycho dad to wire him diesel money to get his 18 wheeler home from the east coast because he was quitting drag racing! Coil told Force that he would take $50k out of his personal savings to fund two more races because he thought they were getting close to a win. Well, they won which led Force to the all time winner of World Championships!!! If Coil would not have dug that $50k out of his wallet, you or anybody else wouldn’t even know who the phuk John Force was!!! Have you noticed Force’s dominance disappeared after Coil was gone? Sure he still gets a win here and there, just like any other racer, absolutely no dominance!!! Force is very happy, but only when he wins! It his wife and daughters that were at a loss because they had no husband/father to be their for them when life threw them curve balls! Lorie had to raise the girls by herself!!! Sure they had money, but money doesn’t erase emotional needs and other daily stresses in life! Lori was going to leave his narcissistic ass so that’s why he pulled all the girls into drag racing, to force her to stay!!! JF only cares about JF! Learn your history before you run your head!!! As far as cheating, if Force won that round against his son in law at Indy 2009, then Robert would not have made the top 10 countdown and like Force stated, he will do anything for his sponsors!!! He is one of the best stagers in history and pulled up to the lights and staged his car crooked, it’s on video and I watched it when he did it! You can no longer find the camera footage of the particular angle that showed him stage crooked, but it exists somewhere! At the hit of the throttle Force had to lift or hit the wall! Now, is there solid evidence of cheating? Of course not because you have to know the operations of his mind which is impossible!!! Did he stage his car perfectly straight thousands of times prior to this round when he staged crooked, why yes, yes he did!!! He knows he’s a cheater and karma snatched that crown off his big head after cheating!!! Force is a textbook narcissist if you know anything about narcissism!!! He doesn’t retire because his narcissism wont allow it! He needs what they call narcissistic “supply” which is constant attention, which racing “supplies” him with!

    • @Fa_Qx2
      @Fa_Qx2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trailerparkcryptoking5213 Ok, Ok, Ok, Dude...You're a hater, We get it...Dam!!!
      When you get through talkin, He was CLEARED of cheating regardless. He still got a team and enjoying life...Get over it!
      I'm not trying to read someone's crybaby novel...Get a book deal dude!

  • @kathrynw3
    @kathrynw3 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you look at his past performances on the tree and when the car goes into tire shake exactly how many times do you see these cars head for the wall the usually break loose and the drivers shut them down and they roll through the lane

  • @ripwtc91101
    @ripwtc91101 12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    mike dunn a half-assed racer? are you serious? roland leong doesnt hire half-asses darrel gwynn doesnt hire half-asses joe pisano doesnt hire half-asses his dad is big jim dunn a veteran of over 50 years in the sport mike has those old-school racing values in his blood so yeah it does carry a lot of weight when he calls john out like that i love force but right is right and mike was spot on in this case

    • @ScooterLee-ei1ep
      @ScooterLee-ei1ep 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No he wasn't. Mike isnt is a has been. There are other vudeos that show John talking about his side that they didn't show. The left was faster but john was slower than the bunch that day. So he chose the right over the left as he had more data on that lane.

  • @joesmith306
    @joesmith306 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WahWahWah where's my milk and cookies

  • @darwindwelle5267
    @darwindwelle5267 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Follow the money!!!

  • @vmaxes
    @vmaxes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    How did he cheat? Not understanding this

    • @psycho42069
      @psycho42069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A year later but oh well lol... He was racing against his teammate (and employee) and by losing (on purpose or not) Robert Hight gets a round win and knocks Cruz Pedrigon out of the top 10 in points contention and by virtue, the championship. Basically he lost on purpose to keep another driver out of the top 10 and guarantee his team's drivers all stay in.

  • @sidewinder712
    @sidewinder712 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ok go to 612 go frame by frame. the car is lined up slightly to the right....no tread and you can see its sudden....drive it out of the groove slowly john. he lined up out of the groove and turned right too soon Lol

  • @johnfletcher1655
    @johnfletcher1655 ปีที่แล้ว

    Graham light decimated the nhra before he left.

  • @michaelwynne4346
    @michaelwynne4346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you ant cheating you ant winning, back in those days it was rampant in all the classes till they made changes and they all did it.

  • @jamiewoods9222
    @jamiewoods9222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looked awfull fishy to me too. JF is good but its not above him to throw a race. You take the right lane, when most are breaking loose and the left is favorite. Come on now thats a no brainer. He's been doing this along time, to know better.

  • @Mike-vt6nc
    @Mike-vt6nc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What happened to Mike Dunn ? Don’t see him anymore

  • @AustinG29152
    @AustinG29152 10 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Mike dunn is cool

  • @blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194
    @blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You have to break the rules to cheat, and I didn't see any cheating just smart choices

    • @rickyabney7650
      @rickyabney7650 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly guess the ones that know how to play the game the best wins!

    • @borismcfinnigan3430
      @borismcfinnigan3430 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oldgoat50 11 months apart in age yet light years apart in terms of success....You are just bitter that he has been successful and you have not.

  • @Over_The_Top-1320
    @Over_The_Top-1320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #1 Tell John Force was guilty of manipulation that day…. His SEVERELY DRAMATIC (physical & verbal) OVERREACTION to the accusation! Period !!
    End of discussion.
    Truly his (John’s) guilt and shame over having done it this day and many others prior (& after) then multiplied by the fact the person making it public on this day was non other than a guy who participated in the very same acts having benefited and forfeited when he was riding the Castrol GTX Gravy Train with Biscuit Wheels Man! They were in cahoots too MAN!
    So, in reality what your witnessing here would be a Whinny Hypocrite who just missed out on the “Championship Countdown” calling out the Manipulative Egotistic Legend of Funny Car Drag Racing who benefited on this day!
    :’)
    But rumor has it, Tony did win some cheese to go with his whine later that evening!

  • @Engrphotog21
    @Engrphotog21 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im a huge John Force fan, but he definitely drove it out of the groove.

  • @donpruett9194
    @donpruett9194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm a John Force fan from the beginning but I don't agree with what he did. That's a problem when you have multiple teams and sponsors pressure

  • @augustattruia2067
    @augustattruia2067 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And besides, a lot of the teams do it

  • @josephbiddle8314
    @josephbiddle8314 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Does it help the man checking the video has on a GTX racing shirt?? I mean come on!!!!

    • @davidqueen9682
      @davidqueen9682 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That was Bernie Federly, John Force's crew chief showing the computer results to the NHRA official

  • @ryanmac8283
    @ryanmac8283 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And people wonder why street outlaws have such hi ratings.lol

  • @AaYy0o
    @AaYy0o 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Genuinely asking... why are they adamant that he should have chosen the left lane? They don't say it like it was just his preferred lane, but like it was a given the right lane was inferior in some way (like a track condition) and no driver in their right mind wold have picked it. If the lanes don't offer an equal chance of winning, it doesn't seem like it would be a fair race to start with. If they do, it would follow that he can choose whatever lane he wants for whatever reason he wants.

    • @jsmith034086
      @jsmith034086 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ayo MazRotti the thing is that ashley won in the right lane lol

    • @Jay-jb2vr
      @Jay-jb2vr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Winner of the rounds always gets *lane choice* in the next round. Its always been like that.

  • @shortywarn
    @shortywarn 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @pfriverrat i bet mike dunn has more runs down a drag strip than you,,,,,,,,,,, you do realize the motive he had to do it as well

  • @BSoBadd87
    @BSoBadd87 13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think john DID cheat but it can't be proven. I also think john knew beforehand that nobody would be able to prove it. That's why the race went down the way it did. No doubt graham light's gonna be keeping a closer eye on team force races from now on.

  • @homelessvetadventures7475
    @homelessvetadventures7475 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your right that guy that has his hands all over John should be fined ...on the streets he would be hurting ...

  • @samhayes3785
    @samhayes3785 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s why Dunn’s big mouth ain’t there no more

  • @melmiller9507
    @melmiller9507 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What the hell is this all about?? Please explain

    • @kevinbushracing58
      @kevinbushracing58 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No.

    • @johndieterich1605
      @johndieterich1605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John Force made sure he lost against hus teammate so his teammate could get enough points to get the last spot into tge championship countdown. It's pretty obvious he threw the race given that he never has that bad of a reaction time and there is no reason why his car should have shot over to the right given no tire shake or loss of traction until after he pulled his car out of the groove.

  • @recman1207
    @recman1207 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    CUBIC $$$.

  • @Iwillnotbepushed
    @Iwillnotbepushed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    John Force a cheater? Never!Does he know how to work the system and compete? Absolutely!

  • @wymple09
    @wymple09 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Tony just beats the car in the other lane what's the problem? Oh, right, he couldn't beat a girl so his ego is hurt.

  • @garyhenschke7330
    @garyhenschke7330 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hang in there Bob Tasca lll 👆It isn’t over till it’s over 👆You and your team can do this 👆

  • @tonypedregonfan1
    @tonypedregonfan1 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ok guy below this first off you even know what sand bagging means cause how you used it in that sentence made no sense. And Mike Dunn is exactly right about what he said about John Force. FORCE CHEATS!!!!!

  • @micheller8014
    @micheller8014 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is exactly why there should be no teams. Owners with multiple cars should ruled out also. 1 man...1 machine...giving his all at every race or he will soon be out of racing. Teams/owners have ruined every Motorsport out here. Not caring which car wins as long as it's theirs. There would be much less controversy ...accusations..and make racing better all the way around.

  • @Theroadrunner4261
    @Theroadrunner4261 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Force ? Cheater !!!!

  • @StrivingTowardsWhatIsAhead
    @StrivingTowardsWhatIsAhead 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Smash

  • @davestinson5691
    @davestinson5691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who cares, it's ALL about money. Most people would do same thing.

  • @iwanttobelievenascar241
    @iwanttobelievenascar241 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The day I stopped watching NHRA coverage. Funny car was my favorite category and Cruz was my favorite driver. Loved how John Force had to explain himself the next day on Sportcenter.

  • @johnnym1320
    @johnnym1320 12 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Mike is totaly right, force drove the car out of the groove, end of story.

    • @ScooterLee-ei1ep
      @ScooterLee-ei1ep 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂 John didnt grow up around it. He did make his own way and wasnt hamded the world.

    • @ScooterLee-ei1ep
      @ScooterLee-ei1ep 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mike Dunn has had a probelm with every since he quit racing. Mike isnt even a has been. He is a never was.

  • @marioortiz5740
    @marioortiz5740 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A win is a win peppergron, fix it!!! Don’t be a cry baby.

  • @billylittleton3395
    @billylittleton3395 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tony try buying a win

  • @keaganhandy9753
    @keaganhandy9753 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    John force is the best in drag racing nobody can ever top his racing team....stay mad boomers

  • @treyivey5431
    @treyivey5431 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    She just left him that’s all

  • @chadsmith66
    @chadsmith66 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Force is not a cheater, he's a pioneer

  • @cheesehead228
    @cheesehead228 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looks pretty obvious he threw the face

  • @davidgeorge000
    @davidgeorge000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dunn is right. Tony is right. In the end there's nothing you can do about it.

  • @augustattruia2067
    @augustattruia2067 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mike dun never has anything good to say about john anyway, never liked him

    • @augustattruia2067
      @augustattruia2067 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oldjim1078 mike Dunn for years always had very little good to say about john, sorry but that's how I always heard it

    • @augustattruia2067
      @augustattruia2067 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oldjim1078 I get all that, but I personally think he never really cared for john, just my opinion,

  • @banger-fn6du
    @banger-fn6du 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    out smarted by bad driving..wow you got robbed..wake up..cruise you lost ,get your shit together

  • @4HBirtcher
    @4HBirtcher 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When John Force ran his race he just hit slick spot on the track to smoke his tires!!

  • @dishrod3516
    @dishrod3516 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve not cared about NHRA racing since. Used to watch every event and went to several. Was a huge force fan before this also.

  • @jkw427
    @jkw427 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dunn is full of it. John was in tire shake right off the line, shown on slow mo.

    • @poolman8201
      @poolman8201 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nah, he threw that one man.. I like force but he threw that one.

  • @TmcIIIvideo
    @TmcIIIvideo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    “We’re watching three Fossils attempt to operate a dinosaur computing device....nothing to see here!

  • @deantait8326
    @deantait8326 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big whoop! That's what team cars are for...🤔 ironic Tony, now in Dunn's job...😁 oh.my Dim Light speaks. Fun, fun

  • @billylittleton3395
    @billylittleton3395 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tony get a go cart u can cheat then

  • @mustangecoboosthpp3869
    @mustangecoboosthpp3869 ปีที่แล้ว

    John Force cheated and he knows it. Zero respect for John Force.

  • @mikewezyk4910
    @mikewezyk4910 11 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As a team owner you do what you have to do to to win a championship. If John was cheating than so be it. Yea he drove out the groove, of course. I would sacrifice for my team so we can take a championship. Point is... Prove it. Cause if you can't than you might as well shut the hell up. John played this one smart and I respect him even MORE now. ;)

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's one seriously idiotic statement. John Force has done nothing but cause fans to leave NHRA in the later years. He's an asshole and a cheat. You win or lose, not by cheating, but by racing. John did not play anything, he was just being his usual scumbag self. If what he did was legal, it would be in the rules, and throwing down a race being ilegal, would not be.

    • @ScooterLee-ei1ep
      @ScooterLee-ei1ep 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AB-80X he the biggest draw in funny car! You'll see more force shirts and hats than others. The fans love him.

    • @oldgoat50
      @oldgoat50 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AB-80X You ever see Tim Wilkerson or Jim Head's drivers or others I cant think of pull that shit? Its not the first time JF has, He has no integrity.

    • @geneva760
      @geneva760 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      BIG FUCKING DEAL about shirts and hats you FUCKTARD.

  • @MarktheSharkC
    @MarktheSharkC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shouldn’t be multi car teams!

    • @Halfstep2024
      @Halfstep2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahh.. and I bet you think every citizen should be capped on how successful they can be too don’t ya. Cause that’s saying the same shit

    • @MarktheSharkC
      @MarktheSharkC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Halfstep2024 Then why does NFL, major-league baseball, national hockey league, only let one corporation own 1 team? It’s has taken out the normal person that used to race every Saturday night and took his dreams away unless he’s one with one of those big teams and that is not fair! The big teams are the only ones to get the major sponsors and stay around!

    • @Halfstep2024
      @Halfstep2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MarktheSharkC idk man, but pointing to other fucked up scenarios to try and further support a bad idea just strengthens the argument in my favor I think. I don’t think it’s fair, but regardless it costs an insane amount of money to operate at their level or even three levels below them so to act as if the common man is somehow losing an opportunity anyway is kinda silly don’t ya think?

    • @MarktheSharkC
      @MarktheSharkC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Halfstep2024 you must work for Schumacher or Kalitta or you are just a dumbass if you can’t see it! I’m sorry! Ignorant! That’s all!

  • @Fa_Qx2
    @Fa_Qx2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just here to see how many are gonna say Graham Light cheated!

  • @xx1590
    @xx1590 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ashley is definitely her mom's daughter, thoughtful, calm and focused always.

  • @stevea5985
    @stevea5985 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    anybody can accuse of cheating , nobody was in the drivers seat , nobody felt and heard what he heard right ?

  • @keithcoulbourne350
    @keithcoulbourne350 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mike dunn is 100 percent right

  • @redneckhippiefreak
    @redneckhippiefreak 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "We wont allow Teams to Manipulate the outcome of the race" But You can Build the car, Tune it, Race it and Manipulate the cars performance to win and sometimes lose, , but , Other than that we wont allow any manipulation, Except when WE do it. XD

  • @soldierski1669
    @soldierski1669 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is why nobody watches this.
    Take a dive to stack the deck.

  • @josephdeffendoll3056
    @josephdeffendoll3056 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm calling imagration on Tony and Cruz.

    • @oldgoat50
      @oldgoat50 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They were born in the US were you AH?

  • @mrturbo6264
    @mrturbo6264 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    RTCTTF best racing PERIOD