Chattanooga doesn't have a paint show anymore from what I remember, so more then likely they just repaired the damage and quickly painted the nose black. Probably won't get a proper paint job until it goes in for an overhaul in Altoona.
An overhaul really ? They don't even change the oil out . Overhaul I don't know about that one unless they have changed the way they do business . they run them till they don't run anymore . Then they might over haul it sell it scrap it or whatever goes through their mind at that moment .
This is what I like to think: The shop forman sends it into paint and says, "Just paint the nose and send it out!" The painters scratch their heads for a moment and say to each other, "We were told to paint it!" "By the way, we have an entire paint booth and all of the colors under the sun!" says one sassy apprentice. Paint forperson says, "Just paint it!" Paint shop replies, "Yep. We'll get get it painted and on the tracks tomorrow!" And a historic nose appears!
Another good video and you hit the nail on head about the sea of monotony. I get that function over form is what railroads ultimately go for. After all, it is a business, but engines have become so cookie cutter that it's mind numbing.
@@carlwidell8983 20 years on the same class 1 railroad.. never heard of it happening. don't believe this specific train had a DPU either. besides even if you lose com link with a DPU, which I have for nearly 40 minutes they don't put out the same tractive effort as the head end units, they all have "Control Tractive Effort" and for the past few years I've ran loaded and empty 280 car coal trains with 2 different DPU consist in a 2X4X2 setup. only broken a knuckle 1 time.. whenever the airs been dumped the throttle drops
Just a cool fun fact i saw your favorite heritage unit is Central Of Georgia that is mine too and over august of 2023 i was able to see that exact one in Elkhart ,Indiana
I was thinking of your channel the other day. I was stopped at a crossing waiting on an NS train heading into Lambert's Point Yard and saw several cars (don't recall if they were open hoppers or gondolas) with Conrail logos.
I see this must be the first video uploaded since the CTA Yellow Line in Chicago was finally back in service 10 days ago following that crash and derailment that was a couple months ago. I’m still wondering what happened with that damaged train car no. 5599 or what will happen with it, even though it’s in a pair with car no. 5600. I heard the weather currently isn’t good in that city and the Orange Line had a minor derailment this morning which uses 2600 series CTA rail cars, the oldest ones.
I Wonder how Many Train Collisions Don’t Involve a Truck of some Type ? Can you Imagine what the Cost of Repairs are that were caused by Negligence ? 🤔🤪👎
Huh. I never saw the horse on the side logo until you mentioned it and I've seen those locomotives hundreds of time. It just never stood out to me as a horse. Of course I never paid much attention to it either.
Ok now I see you answered your own question but I was going to speculate an answer to your question . Having worked on the RR for forty years and was working for the old southern railway when the merger took place . The stallion on the nose of the engine become a target for pranksters , some foamers and sometimes disgruntled NS employees. The stallion became a target and mysteriously over night the stallion would acquire a certain appendage the company was not happy about at all . these engines with the newly acquired appendage on the stallion was painted over immediately with black spray paint and was sent back to the diesel shop in Chattanooga at the first convince for that particular locomotive and the stallion was once again reapplied properly . Now I just seen the title of the video and thought I may have the answer . obviously you had the correct answer for that situation . But what I just described was at one time an issue and I know it happened more than once. You asked.
It was dark and the engine could not see and fell asleep then the engine woke up derailed edit:I actually spotted NS 1832 in Cordele on July 2 2024 on the end of a Norfolk Southern train going northbound crossing CSX then Heart of Georgia
Or probably no longer seen a need and the expenses to put a stallion on the long hood end They don't run them in through service with the long end out front .
BNSF only has the 25th anniversary ES44ACs which really aren't heritage units. Other units just simply have yet to be repainted because the Railroad simply doesn't want to spend money on a repaint unless the unit gets a major overhaul, at which point, it'll most like be repainted into BNSF's current scheme. From what I've heard, BNSF has 0 desire to do heritage units.
@@randallellison6421I stand corrected on BNSF. Hopefully they don’t repaint the old Santa Fe and BN units anytime soon. I especially love the green paint job. The Santa Fe ones still look better on the old locomotives with the rounded nose from the 50’s and 60’s (still a new rail fan so not up on model numbers and stuff like that. 🤷🏼♂️)
I work for wabtec (former General Electric) in Erie pa… this is Big business you’re talking about, worldwide, Huge!.. those locos are nothing more than a lawn tractor to you and i. Totally expendable if and when an accident happens.. scrap it, get another one. New ones sell as quickly as Toyota Camrys’ 1000/year.. roughly..old ones are sometimes rebuilt but if involved in an accident, it’s just a write off just like any other business would do.
I had an uncle that worked there many years ago. He welded the pilots onto the front of the engines. I remember getting to go into the plant for an open house when I was a child. They had a brand new engine (Dash 8 of some sort) sitting outside that we could all walk in.
@@mikeingeorgia1 …yes.. back when it was GE, they would have “family day” you could bring in as guests, family and children in the plant and do tours of some of the buildings. They had carnival style tents set up, food, games for the kids, but that all came to a screeching halt when Wabtec took over. I’m union (UE506) and we have been on strike twice since this company took over, they don’t even turn the heat on in the buildings in the winter, anything to save a buck!…bunch of tight wads!..and they make billions. if it wasn’t for my “fair wage”, I’d be out of here and never look back!
@@Swindy1794 oh wow, I never would’ve realized they’re that bad. I’ve been to the plant in Wilmerding too. They used to have a steam engine on display there. Right near the plant in Wilmerding, there’s a road with two very short sections of former Pittsburgh Trolley tracks that still exists in the brick road. My Dad and I discovered it last year.
I Think That The Reason Why It Doesn't Have The Logo's On The Front 🤔. It's Because When They Keep On Having Accidents,Ect. Saves Them Keep On Putting Logo's,Ect Of The Front. Cause It Doe's Get Tyring To Keep On ReApplying Decals,Ect. That's What They Do In Australia For Our Buses,Trucks,Trains,Ect 😃
Hey man, just wanted to let you know that TH-cam user @BNSF7612 stole your video of NS 4691 and didn’t give you credit for it. I’m not sure if they are claiming it as their own, but either way this shouldn’t be acceptable. If it’s fine with you, no worries. If not, I’ve also found that they’ve stolen a friend of mine’s video and passed it on as their own, so they need to be reported. -CKR
Norfolk Southern’s logo represents Speed and Reliability? Well, that’s Ironic considering how many Accidents Norfolk Southern keeps having. Their Reputation has been completely Shot by now, and it’s only going to get worse. Also, who here thinks their should be Cowl unit versions of EMD’s current SD70 units & GE’s GEVOs?
I caught the 1832 back in 2022 and wondered what was up with the nose. Glad I now know what had happened to it. th-cam.com/video/a5s0sTDLiEw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2A6thcdDD4D6A8oK&t=543
@@rc391995 What are you talking about? I'm just stating that I think it was pointless to go in-depth into the history of Norflok Southern's paint schemes for a video about an oddball wreck-rebuild.
Like I said . a little touchy about it are you ? He made a video what's the problem ? Did your mother force you to watch . I don't see what your issue is. . what do you mean ? Don't even bother I'm done here . Pfft
Seems to me you got no one to blame but yourself. Did someone hold a gun to your head and make you watch ? What a stupid post Frank you need a real life.
Norfolk Southern, just let 1832 sleep
Nice video, NS The Thoroughbred Of Transportation!🛤🚂
Chattanooga doesn't have a paint show anymore from what I remember, so more then likely they just repaired the damage and quickly painted the nose black. Probably won't get a proper paint job until it goes in for an overhaul in Altoona.
An overhaul really ? They don't even change the oil out . Overhaul I don't know about that one unless they have changed the way they do business . they run them till they don't run anymore . Then they might over haul it sell it scrap it or whatever goes through their mind at that moment .
I always like seeing these oddball units which breaks away from the norm!
Man, you do a great job with this channel. Keep up the great work. All aboard!
Charlie, that's an Interesting video; thanks for the follow-up! It is always fun to hear about what happens to locomotives after a crash.
Thanks Dan!
This is what I like to think: The shop forman sends it into paint and says, "Just paint the nose and send it out!" The painters scratch their heads for a moment and say to each other, "We were told to paint it!" "By the way, we have an entire paint booth and all of the colors under the sun!" says one sassy apprentice. Paint forperson says, "Just paint it!" Paint shop replies, "Yep. We'll get get it painted and on the tracks tomorrow!" And a historic nose appears!
Your very close. They wanted the engine back before the stallion was replaced.
2:24 “speed and reliability”😂😂😂 I read somewhere that NS has an accident rate 30% higher than the national average for railroad accidents
🎵 Norfolk Southern, what's your function? 🎵
That’s not true that’s was false
Another good video and you hit the nail on head about the sea of monotony. I get that function over form is what railroads ultimately go for. After all, it is a business, but engines have become so cookie cutter that it's mind numbing.
Nice video dude! I always love it when you upload. Keep it up!
Thanks!
What happens when DPUs become "Out of control" with the lead locomotive?
I normally wouldn't reply to an 8 month old comment but care to elaborate on that?
@@MrNorth69 I am sure there are train wrecks where the lead engine lost it's connection with the unmanned DPUs.
@@carlwidell8983 20 years on the same class 1 railroad.. never heard of it happening. don't believe this specific train had a DPU either. besides even if you lose com link with a DPU, which I have for nearly 40 minutes they don't put out the same tractive effort as the head end units, they all have "Control Tractive Effort" and for the past few years I've ran loaded and empty 280 car coal trains with 2 different DPU consist in a 2X4X2 setup. only broken a knuckle 1 time.. whenever the airs been dumped the throttle drops
didnt even know NS made a norfolk southern heritage unit
No not the Gatorade 😢
Just a cool fun fact i saw your favorite heritage unit is Central Of Georgia that is mine too and over august of 2023 i was able to see that exact one in Elkhart ,Indiana
You have a good eye for locomotives! I really like the Chiseled look of the EMD locomotives...strictly business!
Alright CSX Locomotive Nose Painters, you have a new challenge:
Cool video. Well done!👍
I was very sad to see 4000 going up the cajon pass because I already left my spot and he was already halfway up the hill I also caught 1842 SD70ACC
Another well done video young man hope all is well
Thanks!
It's hard to believe it's been 3 years since the incident.
I was thinking of your channel the other day. I was stopped at a crossing waiting on an NS train heading into Lambert's Point Yard and saw several cars (don't recall if they were open hoppers or gondolas) with Conrail logos.
0:50, I actually saw this locomotive not to long ago, I just found this out when I saw the paint scheme and the number.
What's the boxcar at 3:08?? Is that some sort of protection for those cars following?? And if so, what's in them?
I caught the NS 1832 in Manville, NJ back a few years ago on 62V. I had it on both video and photo.
great video ❤❤❤❤
Management decided that it wasnt fit to be a thoroughbred anymore, sooooo, its a "horseless locomotive"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍😸😸😸😸😕☹😀😃😀😃🤔🙄😨😱❗
The white background around the number plate on top of the engine is an indication that the engine is AC on the NS
Nice. I've seen the 1832 twice in 2023. The 2nd time had 4002 leading and 1069 as DPU. 1832 was 2nd.
Wow three heritage units in one train
Thanks as always...great video...
Another great video Charlie
I’ve seen this oddball! I never knew what it’s been through!
3 Year Ago Train Derailment Ns #18362 DPU. #1069 2 was 2nd time On Atlanta, Georgia.
3:47 I spilled it off the front of the locomotive lol
*This comment that I post is just a joke or a meme not talking seriously*
I see this must be the first video uploaded since the CTA Yellow Line in Chicago was finally back in service 10 days ago following that crash and derailment that was a couple months ago. I’m still wondering what happened with that damaged train car no. 5599 or what will happen with it, even though it’s in a pair with car no. 5600. I heard the weather currently isn’t good in that city and the Orange Line had a minor derailment this morning which uses 2600 series CTA rail cars, the oldest ones.
There is a former Norfolk southern train in my hometown, they took the logo and the name off
I Wonder how Many Train Collisions Don’t Involve a Truck of some Type ? Can you Imagine what the Cost of Repairs are that were caused by Negligence ? 🤔🤪👎
Thanks again always watching
Huh. I never saw the horse on the side logo until you mentioned it and I've seen those locomotives hundreds of time. It just never stood out to me as a horse. Of course I never paid much attention to it either.
I have a challenge for you if your up for it.
Catch NS 1805 leading, it has a sick 3rd Gen K5LLA
Hey how long has it been on its side???? Is it still like that???
Great video can you do a video on loco cab EMD/GE and their types and names ? cheers
Ok now I see you answered your own question but I was going to speculate an answer to your question . Having worked on the RR for forty years and was working for the old southern railway when the merger took place . The stallion on the nose of the engine become a target for pranksters , some foamers and sometimes disgruntled NS employees. The stallion became a target and mysteriously over night the stallion would acquire a certain appendage the company was not happy about at all . these engines with the newly acquired appendage on the stallion was painted over immediately with black spray paint and was sent back to the diesel shop in Chattanooga at the first convince for that particular locomotive and the stallion was once again reapplied properly . Now I just seen the title of the video and thought I may have the answer . obviously you had the correct answer for that situation . But what I just described was at one time an issue and I know it happened more than once. You asked.
Uh oh. Gather a posse, we got a horse rustler!
It was dark and the engine could not see and fell asleep then the engine woke up derailed edit:I actually spotted NS 1832 in Cordele on July 2 2024 on the end of a Norfolk Southern train going northbound crossing CSX then Heart of Georgia
I’ve been seeing them without NS logos on the long hoods. Probably painted after a fire.
Or probably no longer seen a need and the expenses to put a stallion on the long hood end They don't run them in through service with the long end out front .
@@rc391995I’m talking about the side of the long hood, not the end.
Could be
It was tired to pull the train. He just slept on the job.
Yoo did anyone notice southern railway 630 or 4501 sitting on that track????? 4:08
Good catch I see it now . last I seen 630 it waz black
Ok
Nice Video!
Thanks!
3:09 you know what's funny about this lashup NS could have had 6920 and 1943 on it
Good information.
Is there any relation between railroad Dash 9s and airplane Dash 8s?
Yeah, 1
I want to see a custom paint job with graphics design on a locomotive.
Very recently someone put the PC logo on it.
NS 1832 should be a heritage unit since it now the horseless unit
fun fact, someone filmed it. His name is KidKango Productions
I wonder if these trains go through our station in Clemson SC, Go Tigers!
Damn it's been 3 years since that wreck?
NS and BNSF seem to do heritage units the best. CSX on the other hand, seems to half-a&& them.
BNSF only has the 25th anniversary ES44ACs which really aren't heritage units. Other units just simply have yet to be repainted because the Railroad simply doesn't want to spend money on a repaint unless the unit gets a major overhaul, at which point, it'll most like be repainted into BNSF's current scheme. From what I've heard, BNSF has 0 desire to do heritage units.
@@randallellison6421Too busy torturing their drivers and derailing trains to spread shite over the line.
@@randallellison6421I stand corrected on BNSF. Hopefully they don’t repaint the old Santa Fe and BN units anytime soon. I especially love the green paint job. The Santa Fe ones still look better on the old locomotives with the rounded nose from the 50’s and 60’s (still a new rail fan so not up on model numbers and stuff like that. 🤷🏼♂️)
I betcha it rides like a Cadillac!😆
I work for wabtec (former General Electric) in Erie pa… this is Big business you’re talking about, worldwide, Huge!.. those locos are nothing more than a lawn tractor to you and i. Totally expendable if and when an accident happens.. scrap it, get another one. New ones sell as quickly as Toyota Camrys’ 1000/year.. roughly..old ones are sometimes rebuilt but if involved in an accident, it’s just a write off just like any other business would do.
I had an uncle that worked there many years ago. He welded the pilots onto the front of the engines. I remember getting to go into the plant for an open house when I was a child. They had a brand new engine (Dash 8 of some sort) sitting outside that we could all walk in.
@@mikeingeorgia1 …yes.. back when it was GE, they would have “family day” you could bring in as guests, family and children in the plant and do tours of some of the buildings. They had carnival style tents set up, food, games for the kids, but that all came to a screeching halt when Wabtec took over. I’m union (UE506) and we have been on strike twice since this company took over, they don’t even turn the heat on in the buildings in the winter, anything to save a buck!…bunch of tight wads!..and they make billions. if it wasn’t for my “fair wage”, I’d be out of here and never look back!
@@Swindy1794 oh wow, I never would’ve realized they’re that bad. I’ve been to the plant in Wilmerding too. They used to have a steam engine on display there. Right near the plant in Wilmerding, there’s a road with two very short sections of former Pittsburgh Trolley tracks that still exists in the brick road. My Dad and I discovered it last year.
The truck that was hit is a beam hauler truck
It was a detached neck trailer loaded with a 40,000 lb road milling machine
It struck a flatbed loaded with a 40,000 lb road milling machine
@@MrNorth69 an asphalt scraper machine
@@sssniperboofygoofy Yes. a road milling machine
I Think That The Reason Why It Doesn't Have The Logo's On The Front 🤔. It's Because When They Keep On Having Accidents,Ect. Saves Them Keep On Putting Logo's,Ect Of The Front. Cause It Doe's Get Tyring To Keep On ReApplying Decals,Ect. That's What They Do In Australia For Our Buses,Trucks,Trains,Ect 😃
Gatorade is HazMat...isn't it??
It forgot to drink it's V8 juice.....
I have 1 #2566.
Wonder which account is gonna repost this
For real. I'm working on stopping all that.
Gonna guess it was a string line derailment…
Reliability 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Hey man, just wanted to let you know that TH-cam user @BNSF7612 stole your video of NS 4691 and didn’t give you credit for it. I’m not sure if they are claiming it as their own, but either way this shouldn’t be acceptable. If it’s fine with you, no worries. If not, I’ve also found that they’ve stolen a friend of mine’s video and passed it on as their own, so they need to be reported.
-CKR
Norfolk Southern’s logo represents Speed and Reliability? Well, that’s Ironic considering how many Accidents Norfolk Southern keeps having. Their Reputation has been completely Shot by now, and it’s only going to get worse.
Also, who here thinks their should be Cowl unit versions of EMD’s current SD70 units & GE’s GEVOs?
I caught the 1832 back in 2022 and wondered what was up with the nose. Glad I now know what had happened to it. th-cam.com/video/a5s0sTDLiEw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=2A6thcdDD4D6A8oK&t=543
FREE GATORADE🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Truck = tired
1:34 n word?
?????
he got punched in the nose 💀🙏
They gave it black face.
While it's cool that you brought this locomotive to our attention, was it really necessary to go that in-depth into Norfolk Southern's paint schemes?
Little touchy about that subject are you ?
@@rc391995 What are you talking about? I'm just stating that I think it was pointless to go in-depth into the history of Norflok Southern's paint schemes for a video about an oddball wreck-rebuild.
Like I said . a little touchy about it are you ? He made a video what's the problem ? Did your mother force you to watch . I don't see what your issue is. . what do you mean ? Don't even bother I'm done here . Pfft
Serious laziness.
Has nothing to do with laziness. a missing nose logo doesn't help it pull cars
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THANKS FOR WAISTING OUR TIME WITH THIS STUPID VIDEO!!
Could have used that time to learn how to spell.
@@gdub350he also could have just scrolled past, and not click at all
You decided to watch it. Not his fault.
Time will take care of it's self so just leave time alone. Waylon Jennings!
Seems to me you got no one to blame but yourself. Did someone hold a gun to your head and make you watch ? What a stupid post Frank you need a real life.