'We can't trust them': Anti-Russia sentiment grows in Finland • FRANCE 24 English
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- Finland shares a 1,300-kilometre border with Russia. During the Cold War and until recently, its so-called "Finlandisation" doctrine meant neutrality, but the war in Ukraine has changed everything. Today, Finland is on its guard. Anti-Russian sentiment runs strong among the population, which has not forgotten the country's previous armed conflicts with Moscow, as FRANCE 24’s team on the ground reports.
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There is a reason why Finland continued with their military build-up after the Cold War when the rest of Europe ditched their militaries instead.
💯 they know
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me
At the same time its good to remember that Finland also did everything during Cold War to appease Soviets....thus the term "Finlandization"
And Im saying this as a Finn, we just have to be honest with our history and during Cold War Finn political leaders did everything possible to have as good ties with Soviet Union as it was possible, except joining Warsaw Pact...and thus we didnt join EU until in 1995 and it took monumental shift in security situation for us to join NATO...thats how hard struck the "Finlandization" was here.
You could ofc say Finland played it smart back then during Cold War, and even more so after Soviet Union fell apart by keeping our defense forces not only in good shape but impoving them beyond what was possible during Cold War, but either way the good thing to remember that during Cold War days Finland would have done nothing to aid country invaded by Soviet Union because we would have done everything possible to appease them.
Yes, because it was tiny compared to the rest of Europe and they distanced themselves from NATO
@@Balnazzardigreetings from Estonia
they call it 'anti-russian sentiment'. In Finland you call it 'common sense'.
In Russia we call it Goebbels pride. Sure, he would be proud of Europeans today.
Centuries of being colonized and being bullied, I understand why.
@@pavelslutsky3114 "We"? What? You become a commie now?
@@pavelslutsky3114 If someone is imitating Goebbels today, it is definitely ruSSian state propaganda. It would make the old doctor proud!
@@pavelslutsky3114 In Russia basically you have a big epidemic of self-projecting at the moment
If you invade, threaten and bully your neighbours and blatantly lie about everything, you shouldn't expect sympathy. Simples.
U talking about USA or UK?
@@pauldhaasbroek Russia/USSR has invaded so many countries that no whataboutery is needed.
@@Nobody-Nowhere USSR was allied with Nazis until 1941 and they invaded Poland together. What goes around comes around ;)
@@pauldhaasbroek You sound about as smart as pootin!!
@@yellowscott are u a 5y
o? Well u as smart as Biden
Finland remembers its history.
Ed C, true, and that is one of the biggest reasons, why there still exists a country called Finland.
Except what it conveniently forgets. Something it has in common with almost every other country, though, to be honest.
@@Katoshi_Takagumi What, that a few Russians lived there once, so it is now part of Russia forever. The same way as the USA is part of Britain? That's not the way things work in the civilized world.
@@Nobody-Nowhere Actually Hitler never wanted to annex or destroy Finland, so German victory wouldn't have been disaster for Finns.
@@Nobody-Nowhere Soviets didn't defeat Finland. Finns just gave "lost" some forest to them and kept their Independence. EVERY russias european neighbor were invaded for 50 years, except Finland.
We in the Baltics have the same shared history and remain united. 🇱🇹🇪🇪🇱🇻🇫🇮
You were smart to join NATO when you did. We should have done the same long ago. Oh well... at least we kept our defences up.💪
Finally together in NATO!
It's always better to get an umbrella before it starts to rain
Yeah, all four ex-fascist supporters
@@luciuscornelius4037 Bro, you high?
"We can't trust them" words spoken by all of Russias neighbors. NATO is a collection of countries that don't trust Russia. When mistrust expands, NATO expands. Russia is not trustworthy.
Who trusts Nato?
NATO is a collection of countries who like the taste of murica's boots.
@@countsmyth the developed world 🌎
@@countsmyth sane people.
The same words spoken by Napoleon which was as true then as now.
Finns have never forgotten how the Red Army attacked them in 1939. Of course they don't trust them.
Russians haven't forgotten that attack either. For a reason.
But the time has changed since then. The same thing you could also say about the German. They attached in 1914 and in 1939....of course history is a bit more complicated...
@@mv_5878 well ruzzkie are trying to forget but it’s hard to. Too painful for them 😊
@@stefansollberger5658 Lmao, clown
Ruskies also started Continuationwar.
History confirms Finland's attitude to Russia is correct. 🔱
You don't know history very well then.
@@jimcazador6057 If you must post, could you at least make it an intelligent post. 🤣
@@jimcazador6057 Do I feel a distinct communist scent?
Stalin had a TREATY with Hitler.
@JZ's BFF There was a time when allying with an enemy against a greater enemy was the ONLY option! Do judge history by putting yourself in the given situation, at the given time. Judging history from your sofa in 2023 is all too easy... and dead wrong.
At the time, the Finns had no better choice!
The majority of Finns have never trusted our eastern neighbour.
Well can anyone blame them ?
Russia can look at mirror.
Baltics too. Hell Latvia has a gay president and we all know how the Russians feel about that 😏
@@msdgroup9164 lol another try to split us in the west... sorry, try again
@MSD Group
Finish citizens seem to be well informed and awesome people. They have suffered from Russian imperialism so they know what they are talking about.
still hurst I guess🤣
Old Finnlander saying "A Russian is a Russian even if you fry him in butter".
1:32 I agree with the Finnish gentleman, it's the people of Russia who keep the dictator in power, the majority support him, therefore they're to blame.
No doubt there is a percentage of Russians who don't support Putin but won't say it openly because they're scared of the repercussions. That said, I bet that half (or very close to half) of the Russian population fully supports him.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 60 % fully support the dictator, the rest dgaf or are too afraid.
Exactly. As much as i want to give them the benefit of the doubt, i just cant anymore, several neighboring countries have literally given them recent examples of how you deal with a government like that (mass riots instead of a few dozen people at a time) and they still dont care enough about THEIR OWN COUNTRY AND FUTURE to do something, let alone all the atrocities committed by their child soldiers.
At this point its really hard to see the Russian government as separate from the Russian civilization.
Im glad to see these "rebel" groups stand up recently, but i fear they are greatly outnumbered by Russians that either dont care or actually support the government.
@@borisstanislav4560 this cannot be, we all know that their elections are fake and no one actually voted for Putin, how then can 60% support him?
@@andrewcrus you clearly don’t know many Ruzzians. The vast majority support the war, their dictator and think they are fighting the West in a great patriotic war. These people have been like this for generations and never change…
Joining nato was definitely the right decision. We are both stronger by it.
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@MSD Group With what army?🤣
@MSD Group Have you ever heard any objections of CSTO growing from the west? Find me one.
As a citizen of Finland Nato is not welcome in Finland regardless of your negative thoughts. Go away Nato Finland does not need you.
And we seen how it reflects in Finland election 😂
Finland will spend billions of euros to attack the next Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan together with NATO
No matter what else happens in this war, Finland going from neutral to NATO will be seen by history as a major defeat for Russia.
True. This is probably one of the key elements of Putin's legacy.
Finland hasn't been neutral since the 1990s
@@josephstalin9357 No, but they were non-aligned till 2023, though. Things changed with the not inconsiderable help of Mr. Putin. In recent memory, no one else has done more to promote NATO than Mr. Putin.
@@josephstalin9357 ... I've been to Finland. This was some time ago. The Finns I talked to then saw no threat from Russia. Whatever the official state position was, they saw themselves as neutral.
Look, before this current war started, Russian media was openly discussing which nation would be next after Ukraine. All border nations picked up these transmissions. It is no shock that Finland and Sweden looked at that and said NATO.
Now Moldova and Ukraine are becoming more vocal on their desire to join. Other former Soviet republics are also - including GEORGIA, the birthplace of STALIN.. Putin created this movement.. Whatever else happens in Ukraine, this will stand out as Putin's failed legacy.
Finland actually never was neutral. Finns were always antirussians. But there were so many politicians bought by russians. I m disgusted
If pootin attacks Finland I will be the first foreign volunteer to fight for my brothers... and Im German!
make sure you let mommy know first, okay ?
"Anti-Mordor sentiment grows in the Middle Earth. Mordor dismisses it as propaganda and proceeds to behead children, while talking about the infinite and long awaited benefits of a multipolar world".
The question I've asked myself is, "Could Russia become a reasonable neighbor even if Putin wasn't in power?" And I can't honestly say that it would be any different. If it wasn't Putin, some other Russian strongman would take his place. I'm not saying that all Russians are like this, but the Russian government has done its best to drive any opposition out of the country. Generations of Russians who might have been able to reshape Russia have left the country, been imprisoned or murdered. Even the war in Ukraine with thousands of their own sons dying, from reactions I've seen they're either too scared to say anything or completely apathetic. As long as Russian culture stays unchanged they'll continue to have this type of leadership.
Its gonna take a few generations for the average Russian to develop common sense and mutual respect, that much is certain.
The US can fund UN. Its NATO that is the big item on the budget. Then there is the US pasific presense which is just as big as the NATO one.
Why on earth would you want to destroy the US?
It's about whether Russia will become a western democracy or not, and what it takes for Russia to get there. Obviously, the time Mr. Putin has been in power, and the war in particular, have made reaching that goal nearly impossible. I wouldn't want to bet on any outcome.
It is a multi generational thing. Sheep used to be able to defend themselves. Shepherds killed the aggressive sheep and now they can't survive without the shepherd. They don't even notice that the shepherd kills their babies. The Soviet Union and now Putin's Russia have been breeding sheeple for fifteen generations.
Thank you Putin for recruiting Finland to NATO.
@@sanyafrag1 Will have to?
We have been buying weapons from NATO countries long before joining.
@@KirosanaPerkele Therefore, the United States celebrates Independence Day, but Finland does not 😂
@@sanyafrag1 Except Finland does celebrate its Independence day.
@@KirosanaPerkele nominal holiday) but Finland is not independent, it is a colony) there is nothing of its own in Finland, except for fish sprats
@@sanyafrag1 Except Finland is independent.
Bro even china doesnt trust russia
It should be the other way around, as it's only a matter of time before China starts to liberate parts of Russia
@@tnickknight To paraphrase Putin, "China only wants Russian land which was historically part of China."
Oh, lake propaganda is all that h have in the West. So sweet
@@MsNinich I think the mountain of dead thanks too Putin might think otherwise
@@MsNinich Lake lol
The Finnish are a very smart people, proud to welcome them in NATO !
Cringe
@@aa1greg Finland is already in NATO cope 🤗
You are all degenerates
@@ax1066a-ghd2 Are you suggesting not to let the Russians in, that is, to discriminate on the basis of nationality?
@@user-mj7dt8of8e yes
Love Finland. Wish they were our neighbor in the states
We are not that far if you look at it through Arctics =D
In reality Finns just continue being wary and alert about possible Russian hybrid operations. That's it. Russia has pretty good track record for making people distrust it, so they can blame themselves
"Anti-Russia" otherwise known as logic. 😂
The Finns are very logical people
Exactly!
The only anti logic is your comment
@@jonburton9411 Okay Sergey Burton, thanks for the help!
Anti-Russia" otherwise known as US propaganda. Fixed it for you.
When i was just a small kid my Finnish uncle would sometimes say "remember Never trust the russians" Some deep wounds left in his generation. Wounds that were never forgotten and made them wiser. I would kinda laugh at those times until it was proven to be right, now i will pass down those words when it is appropriate.
It sounds much better in original Finnish
"Ryssään ei ole luottamista"
Your uncle was a very wise man indeed.
@@B1gLupu "Ryssä on ryssä, vaikka voissa paistais" used to my aunt say. She had to leave Viipuri as a child, like my father.
I feel quite guilty about laughing at the "anti-Russian paranoia" you see in 1950's American movies. It turns out they were right all along!
@oldbloke135 Exactly. The US figured out the Soviets from Day 1, and when we collapsed them, we figured it was over. What a mistake it was to build up Russia and China, and what a mistake it was to diminish our military and industrial capabilities.
Good stuff Finland 👍
People of Finland, there are 30 countries having your back, don't be afraid.
The Finns have never been afraid of anyone. They will fight to the death for their country - SISU is in their blood. Joining NATO is a practical insurance policy against a historically aggressive country with imperialist ambitions.
Greetings to the Finnish people from Bulgaria
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Just a bit of context: the Soviet Union invaded Finland under pretty much the same pretext Russia is using right now. And despite Finland giving the Soviets a bloody nose, they still ended up losing territory.
So their attitude is surprisingly pacifist considering the circumstances.
May be this territorial gains saved Saint-Peterburg from been destroyed, when Finland allied with Hitler sieged the city. The north border of russian novgorod is a long discussion, this year is 700 years of the oldest document, Treaty of Oreshek, established the border between Sweden and Novgorod.
@@OurThirdPlanet But maybe the war to gain the territory made a neutral neighbor into someone who sought revenge against the USSR for its unprovoked war. And while we’re talking about history, the USSR allied with Hitler to invade Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia.
@@OurThirdPlanet Lets not forget that Saint-Peterburg would had had nothing to worry about from Finns, we are not imperialists who crave other peoples land like Russians. The whole winter war started by no notice from Soviet Union, but fire bombing Helsinki civilian targets, and the very first victim of the war between Soviet Union and Finland was 7 years old little girl. Shows the trend they still keep up, murdering innocent civilians who pose no threat to them.
”Bloody nose” is a pretty diplomatic expression for around a million soviets dead.
I think the finnish nationalism, or atleast patriotism is very subtle and quietly talked about compared to other cultures.
Neither Finns or Swedes have ever felt any love for Russia.
The hatred against Russia in both countries is well established since centuries .
The difference between today and two years ago is that we once more express ouer true feelings .
After the Bolshevik revolution in 1917, the Finns murdered and looted the refugees escaping Russia. I don't have much sympathy for such 'true feelings'.
@@Katoshi_Takagumi and i cant find a single source for that, other than ruSSia propaganda.
How strange.
@@Katoshi_Takagumi probly some anti-finnish propaganda u only see in russians books. why? becuse their not true.
Russophobia is a bad look, at least we finally see through the facade of liberal, tolerant Europe
@@Katoshi_Takagumi Finland I believe at the time had it owns internal civil war going on with Finnish communists until 1918. Could have played a factor? Finnish history is a bit of an unknown though to me I admit. As it's a pretty minor country though I've never looked into the country's history nor is it covered in mainstream history books.
Well the Finns know their bloodthirsty neighbor quite well.
What was the main excuse to illegally annex the Crimea by Russia ? To protect Russians who at one time decided to move to Ukraine. I'd be very careful with how many russians are living in my country nowadays because history tends to repeat itself.
History doesn't repeat but it sure does rhyme.
There's a little more than that involved when it came to Crimea.
@@Katoshi_Takagumi yeah but the less delusional reasons to annex a foreign land for Russia the safer.
I hope there is more brave and honoruable Russians to join Freedom of Russia legion to get their country back from the dictator and his cronnies.
Those Russians are there because first Stalin’s regime starved millions of Ukrainians and to compensate the lack of inhabitants in those parts, they moved Russians there.
When West illegally took over Kosovo and Metohija by force from Serbia to give it to Albanians they made a precedent for the other countries to do the same thing.
Finland is a Great Nation , and is now a member of the great West and all Free Nations of this World , Long live Finland .
@Vel ez Al Asif don't cry, nothing.
Actually we have already been a member of the west. At least we like to think so. Western country but not a member of NATO until now.
Only 6 000 BC kids remember that the ancestors of the Uralic people came from North Asia
Finland was always a western country.
@@eln5343 All the europians came from Asia.
By the way Finns are the blondiest ppl in the world.
I by no means hate Russia, but I share that gentlemans sentiment. Russians not daring to demonstrate against Putin in public I can understand, but at least the Russian people could go on a strike followed by maybe don't go shopping during the weekends or something similar to at least show that they have had enough of Putin's military adventures, yet they do absolutely nothing, it's business as usual and all their neighbouring countries are proclaimed as being Nazis which is totally laughable. At one point they have to wake up!
The time of demonstrations being able to change things has long gone away. They need to organize them selves into militias and have an armed revolution. After which preferable Russia gets broken into republics so that they never poses the man power to just throw enough meat at the grinder to make the enemy run out of bullets.
Two reasons, life in Russia is getting harder for people, and they also try very hard not to notice anything going on around them.
I totally agree with you! They should not go to military parades, stop watching propaganda on tv, do not participate to gatherings with supporters of the war, do not enter shops that collect food supplies for the military or posters for recruitments, and so on.
The reality is that such things do not happen.
There are many russian bloggers on youtube that proudly show the new russian shops and bars that substituted the american ones that left the country. And they speak proudly about them. Instead of boycotting their government by avoiding participation in unnecessary things, they stupidly support it.
@@msdgroup9164 You're not making any sense dude.
@@xYarbx You'll see an immigrant from middle east dating your mother before all that happens.
As long as Sweden exist Finland will never be alone, we will always be by their side🇫🇮❤🇸🇪
Just tell Sweden, it'd be really nice if they stopped selling critical war parts for evil aggressor countries, somewhere between invading and genocide should've been the last straw
Hmm... does 1939 remind you of something? If I'm not so wrong Sweden didn't do that much when USSR invaded Finland.
Sweden joins nato soon i hope. Then you have even more friends that have your back 😊
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Or anyone else for that matter. Norway didn't do anything or US, UK, France the only thing they did was talking. And as everyone know, Talk is cheap.
@@mandelorean6243 What about the rest of the world did that, like US, UK, France, China, Russia and a lot of other country's, Sweden does not sell that much compared to US,Germany, China, Russia or France.
As a New Zealander with Finish ancestry, bloody proud of the Finns. You as a country showed Russia , 80 plus years ago not to mess with you and if you do it will cost you dearly.
Yep. Also ever since WWII ended Finland has prepared for an another invasion. In other words 80+ years of preparation. Everything Finland has built it built it with a russian invasion in mind. Nearly every single apartment building, store, library, church etc. Has a bomb shelter in it. Kilometers and kilometers of underground bunkers and tunnels under the biggest cities. Helsinki alone has an underground facility that can house over 900k people. Bridges are built with a place for mines so they can be destroyed quickly and easily. Roads are built in a manner that every road eastward is like a funnel where a coming invasion is easy to stop. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Always trust the power of PERKELE. It will never fail you!
@@aleksiheija8170 You are unbelievable people.
A Kiwi with a Finnish ancestry is probably the last thing I expected to hear anywhere ever
As a Pole the only what I can say, it is fully approval to Finnish position. I'm happy Finland decided to join NATO. We recognize Finland as strong ally. Greets and respect from Poland.
Czesç! ✌️
So the Americans can continue to supervise Europe? Russia isn't your enemy.
Thank you 💗 we stand together with you ALWAYS against the evil in the East..
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The Russians did not gain so much land from their neigbhors to form the largest country in the world through peaceful negotiation. Annexing neighbors by force is their habit, even into the 21st century.
Welcome to NATO Finland!
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If Russia destroys one of its neighbours and you happen to be another of Russia's neighbour ....
Our prayers go to Finland verry beautiful country and very strong people
Hii sir my from bangladesh my i lost my house plz help mee
Kind of you, thank you, Ryan Davis!
No need for prayers, at least for now
@@jmespoo plz help me
Don't send your prayers to Finland as 90% are not believing. The Scandinavian countries are nearly atheist.
It is a very small raise though, from 99% to 100%
Yep. Basically all Finnish people hate Russians, they're not wanted in Finland. And that is a fact. But because of the Finnish laws against discrimination, people talk about it among themselves, not so much in public. Now it is more acceptable to talk openly what people think of Russians.
@@kingkreole9121 And that’s great
I love Finland even more than before after this ❤
Well if I was a Finn, I wouldn’t trust Russia either. Invaded once. Invasion can easily return. As for Russians, in general, they’ve supported Putin for decades. Continue to support him. They act as if they got no power to change. But do Russians, as a majority, really want to change?! Being suspicious of potential 5th column is a real thing when your neighbor has shown the willingness to wage war.
Once? If only. We Finns have been invaded dozens of times by those cunts. We have known for many centuries, that "the enemy will always come from the East". And then the Finnish joke usually goes: "Unless it somehow makes a cunning flanking manoeuvre and comes from the West."
Only Ruzzia's neighbors know the True face of Ruzzia 😢 ✌️🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇲🇬🇧🙏
What we are seeing is the True Face of Bolshevism.
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1:38 The man in red is absolutely correct! "The country is the people."
When could you have trusted Russia?
Baffles me people ever trusted this nation. It's historically traumatized its own people and that of other nations.
Other countries do the same, but not on the lasting scale Russia seems to do.
I think people used to trust it not to act clearly against its own self interest, but even that trust gas been shattered.
You want to talk about countries historically traumatising other nations ? Other countries do the same but not on the same scale of Russia ? You forgot Western European countries colonising, genociding and oppressing the whole entire world ? The US invading and destroying nations left and right ? I can assure you that The US, The Uk, France, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Germany and else have done 100 times worse than anything Russia has ever done and is doing to Ukraine.
@@lawtraf8008 Every single one of those countries is glad they were colonized by the West and not by Russia.
@@lawtraf8008 Actually Russia has always belong to that same "evil group" you talk about. They have for their whole history been oppressing their smaller neighbors by force
@@lawtraf8008 You realise that russia was also a colonial empire? And that the sovietunion was basically also a colonial empire? And that they also commited genocide? They even did it to their own population what is basically even worse for a country to do. They just mastered the art of pretending they aren't because they hid everything under the red carpet.
I am Russian, who used to livee 150km from the border in Saint-Petersburg, it feels painful to watch people of the Lappeenranta that were so welcoming being on high alert, and I can't blame them. It is indeed a shared responsibility and Putin is dangerous, better safe than sorry.
Yes, it's a deplorable situation. Putin has taken the Russian people as his hostages. Some are suffering from Stockholm syndrome, while others just suffer.
@@viljanov Lmao, serial killers are “suffering”.
"shared responsibility" lol
@@signorasforza354 150 mln of serial killers, hehe, at least we are suffering.
@@signorasforza354that's racist when you think about it. The Russian people can learn from their government s mistakes and go forward. Germany used this feeling of collective guilt to improve and preserve human s rights so the atrocities don't happen again.
Im German and I speak russian, I keep hearing them support the war amongst themselves, they feel so comfortable thinking no one speaks their language.
Finland has never trust Russia or Soviet union. We have no reasons to do so.
Anti Russia sentiment... Not only in Finland...
but why?
@@ivan_gdan Might be the fact the Russians literally invaded them in the past, and the fact Kremlin state TV has regularly threatened them with death.
@@ivan_gdan Because they are warmongering thugs.
@@ivan_gdan seriously? Ask any Ukrainian.
The true face of European chauvinists
Absolute common sense by Finland ! Welcome ❤
My stepfather fought in both the Winter War and WWII against the Soviet Union. Being a Swedish speaking Finn, he then moved to Sweden to become an engineer. He always expressed a distrust of Russia and said that he admired America for helping Europe militarily and, afterwards, economically.
Something to be proud of, for sure. He fought alongside Germany in WWII, probably took part in the siege of Leningrad. Look up Tania Savicheva's diary, you'll be even prouder
@@q___m2158 Please understand that the only reason Finland joined Germany was due to the unprovoked Winter War, where the USSR attacked and stole 9% of Finnish territory. Who wouldn't want to retake lands stolen from them when they have the chance?
@@q___m2158 Do you know that a disproportionately high number of ruzzianz callaborated with the German nazis? 😃Very evident by what they are doing today!
America also offered funds from the Marshall Plan to Russian and all the eventual Warsaw Pact members. Czechoslovakia and Hungary wanted to accept the money but Stalin wouldn't allow it.
Also you can't blame Finlands decision to join Germany. They were attacked by Russia who had also invaded and taken half of Poland. Let's not forget Russia was a major cause of WWII by the Ribbentropp-Molotov Pact and the Invasion of Eastern Poland. The Finns never fought in major formations with the Germans and mainly concentrated on recovering their own territory.
I had guys from Finland on deployment.... One of them told me "You have to expect war when your neighbour is Russia" .... I thought to myself man this guy is exaggerating.... Don't think so no more ....
As a Finn, I feel very disappointed and sad because of the horrible war started by Russia. When the Soviet Union collapsed in the 90s, I was hopeful about the future. Trade and other normal interactions with Russia increased. Some years ago, I started studying Russian and I'm still doing it. My intention was to travel to different parts of Russia. But now - a lot has to happen before that.
Why then your country gave refuge to Chechen terrosists, acountable for multiple atrocities and terrostic attacks? Doesn't look like someone wanted to build trustworthy relationships in the first place.
@@user-zx6fg9lv4d They are not welcoming ruzzkie terrorists) Chechens are heroes. They will be independent😊
Old Finnish saying: "the enemy always comes from the east"
But majority of their recorded history, they were conquered, occupied and ruled by Sweden for 7 centuries.
@@SurvivorIce That is correct too. But being under Russian rule is in more recent history
@@SurvivorIce During the Swedish time Finns weren't slaves or serfs. They had same rights as Swedes and didn't even regard themselves as a nation. The Russian empire period was mostly extensive autonomy with exceptionally good circumstances, considering the times. The Finnish animosity towards Russia stems 100% from the WW2, Stalin and Soviet Union.
@@mv_5878
No. The Russian period in Finland ended with the Russification where the Russians tried to turn Finns into Russians. That is another source of animosity and also one of the main reasons why Finland wanted to become independent.
@@SurvivorIce Are you comparing Swedes with ruzzkie orks?
"You can't trust them" are words that ring very true these days where the Russia is concerned.
But you sure can trust uncle sam and their promises not to expand nato to the east
@@romanz9342 I don't believe the promise was exactly as you've stated. I believe it was more along the lines of "we won't actively pursue new members". Anyone wishing to join simply has to make the request and it will be considered. Russia's actions prompted Sweden and Finland to do just that. I honestly can't fathom why you would conflate the two "trust" scenarios. Its not even close.
Love for Finland!
Do you really love Finland or are you just saying you love whichever country you see in the news?🫵🤣🤣🤣
@@QbertZ-zi2sy farts and prayers
Finland loves you back!
Great, greets from Poland.
I really enjoyed my trip to Finland. What a huge blunder Putin made starting this war and alienating a great, peaceful neighbor. The Finns are right to be wary of Russia now and prepare for living next to a country that has always been ruled by despots whether czars, Stalin or Putin. This makes Russia somewhat unpredictable as a neighbor.
Finland is not "anti-katsaps", they just humanity and smart! 🇺🇦♥️🇫🇮
Even Russia's best friends don't trust Russia
Well being of a nation bordering Russia is directly tied to strength of it's artillery, and that is why Finland, with population smaller than London, has stronger artillery than British and French combined.
Its not anti-Russian sentiment, its political realism.
Finland is so self reliant and independent thinking, a macro representation of its individual citizens and the way they think. Finland has looonnnggg resisted joining NATO despite the advances and overtures by numerous NATO members including the USA. If Finland feels the need to join NATO now, other countries need to pay attention to Russia.
Finns are a nation of chauvinists
@@user-mj7dt8of8e get lost Russian
You nailed it. This is exactly how finns think.
1:55 - If they attack. Well, the Danish and Norwegian governments have already said, that it will see an attack on Finland as an attack on our own land.
Same in Sweden.
Greetings to Finland from Poland
Its good to see others with the same mindset when it comes to Russia
Hello from Finland
Yeah, your “mindset” is roughly the same 😂
hatred is not wise!
@@JorgeCampos-eu7id being realistic and prepared for an enemy is wisdom my friend
We didn't ask to hate them, but they give us all the reasons to do so
@@romanz9342 Ever considered that the world wouldn't hate and mistrust you if you didn't constantly threaten and invade everyone around you?
Even Russians don't trust Russians because now the Russian elites started by creating private armies in order not to loose what Putler gave them. Money and power. Corruption and elites will never be overthrown in Russia unless occupied Russian territories gain back their independence, brake away from Muscovia and get their resources back and Leave Moscow poor. But elites will not allow this because they know that Russians are slaves for 500 years. So all countries having a border with Russia must protect their sovereign by joining NATO . Russia will always be occupy and share resources with the Elites that Lenin, Stalin and Putler created.
Yeah its crazy how for example Gazprom has their own PMC now, Russia is 200% sure heading for civil war
We danes love Finland 😀🇩🇰 Kind, polite, funny and smart people. If you have any beef with them, it means you must’ve done something very wrong 😉
@@estoy_aprendiendo_espanyol🤡
Anti-Russian sentiment is growing everywhere.
The war in Afghanistan destroyed the USSR.
Putin's war in the Ukraine will just as surely destroy the Russian Federation.
HAHA dream on
Lmfao bros out here really thinking this is the 90's where the Soviet Union had a pro western leader.
At least his regime and himself.
I don't blame the Finns for thinking like that. ruSSia is after all threat for all European countries.
If you cannot control Russia, it does not mean that it is a threat.
Lappeenranta is a city, not a town. A bit bigger than what Ukrainian city of Bakhmut was before the war. Very sad when you think of it.
By the official English definitions, Finland doesn't really have "cities" at all.
Just some larger and smaller "towns", and a ton of "villages".
Finns dont forget who bullied them, who helped!
For Finland, Ukraine, chechnya, Georgia, Kosovo, japan, korea, Philippines, sudan, cyprus, Afghanistan, Burma, and especially me and my family: most precious blood of Jesus Christ, save us and the whole world.
"Who can trust them?" Nobody !
That Russian claim of "security guarantee from EU" was exposed as a scam the time Finland noticed that Kremlin attacks Non-NATO nations one by one. We just loved the courage of PM Sanna Marin. Go Finland!
I'm British and welcome Finland into NATO. They are tough but kind people with strong armed forces. I'm like the guy in the film who said - It's not just Russia's leaders, it's their people making these choices to kill off ukraine.
The anti-Russian sentiment in Finland is apparently rearing its head after having been on the decline during the last few decades. But there's a reason for it: Russia has attacked the lands that are now Finland so many times over the centuries. The centralized power in Moscow has also attacked numerous peoples - in fact, probably all of them - around and within its borders for over half a millennium, ever since Ivan the Terrible rose to power. The list of these attacks is long, and the attacks are always brutal. They almost always follow the same strategy: Russia makes up an excuse to send in the troops (for example, to "protect" certain people or to fight against "terrorists") or creates a false flag attack, then Russia executes thousands of civilians, deports the same amount, razes the cities to the ground, and finally erases the culture. This is what Russia has done almost too many times to count, and this is what they are now attempting to do in Ukraine. As a result, people around Russia have gotten used to not trusting Russians. Now because of the invasion of Ukraine, the emotional reactions to Russia's historical behaviour are returning to the surface.
Russians have to stop the whining "why does the world hate us?" when they have done it to themselves. They could play nice, they could evolve to become a rule-abiding country which wants good. Nothing's stopping them. But instead they steadfastly and gleefully hold on to their imperial, colonial oppressor mentality. For generations Finnish people have taught their children to "never trust a Russian" and used an expression which roughly translates to "a Russian is a Russian no matter what you do to try to change them for the better", meaning Russians are deceptive, it's in their nature, and nothing will change that. Shame that they have to think that way, for sure, but it's an understandable attitude for those who are neighbours of Russia.
Happened before Ivan as well.
Finns are BASED😊
It is funny hearing Russians talk about Russophobia.
Phobia means an irrational fear or hatred. Sometimes it is just prudent.
Mi sa Balkana volimo Ruse i Rusiju
Russophobia is an already established term denoting hatred of Russians, that is, it is xenophobia.
No it's called racism
@@rendsmachaine1872 😂😂😂
According to Your words, homophobia doesn't exist?
Hyvä Suomi!🇫🇮👍
We tried trusting the Russians. We really tried. Look what happened.
Big hugs from Poland! to all Suomi people!
Native russian speaker from Ukraine here, soviet Ukraine to be exact. I grew up mostly in the US, had Latvian and Ukrainians diaspora friends who's parents held very unkind views of Russians. Honestly, I always viewed that as a bit of hysterics. Even up to the actual invasion in 02/22, I thought western hysterics were fueling this talk of invasion. And then...the invasion happened. And with this invasion, as my aunt's town took missile and drone strikes, as the Russians had their convey so close to Kyiv before they were repelled, I started watching man-on-the-street interviews in Russia on TH-cam channels like 1420. Now granted, obviously these are not interviews of ALL Russians, but still I was shocked by the broad slice of population presented, showing either utter apathy or flat out venom. This just turned my stomach is all I could say. I've now witnessed how bad they are as a society, and I cannot unsee it.
The same.
Never let ruzzkie lie to you.
Same here. 😔
I feel sorry that Russian propaganda now turns common Russian people against Finns and Finland. We did not betray them, we simply did what had to be done - at the latest possible moment.
Lol, I see only Western one here on TH-cam and does the supposed job of the Russian media MUCH more efficient
Finland do the right
If Russia tells you the sky is blue...you better believe it is red.
Unforttunately I agree with the guy who says it is the people, I met a Russian lady at an airport in Australia as I was leaving and we had a conversation, she said she does not beleive that Russia attacked Ukraine and that NO Russia did not invade Poland along with Germany in 1939, when you get the people staring the truth in the face and utterly denying it you can't trust them!
But didn't poland attck the czech before that ?
@@romanz9342 You are missing a pretty BIG point, the Germans were on the ram,page and the prospect of total war is Europe was the worry, hence the British "gaurantee" that if Germany invaded Poland they would declare war on Poland - and they DID! So the issue of if in 1939 Poland attacked Czech ( which as you say is correct , although it was a minor conflict) had nothing to do with containing the growing European conflagration, which DID turn into a world war, so your point is irrelvevant and the tagging of Russian with German as the calayst for WW2 is appropriate.
Finns are much, much wiser than French regarding RuSSia.
French are just feminine and coward.
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It is True 'We can't trust them'
Why would this organization even exist? Finland is the victim of wars and domination by Russia for decades.
There is nothing to celebrate from the Finnish perspective in the “relationship” between Finland and Russia.
It is not quite that black and white. The 1800's was progress in Finland and there is a reason the Finns have the statue of Alexander II at the most valuable place in Helsinki, in the middle of the Senate square. He was what we call a 'good Tsar'. So was Alexander I.
@@sampohonkala4195 So he occupied Finland and had put his monument like ruzzkie always do everywhere they occupy?
Glory to Ukraine !!!
Glory to the Heroes !
F*kin Na*is
@@stevanrozic4638 less internet and more outdoors for you
@@scandinavianstacker8485 Yep
@@stevanrozic4638 The R*sshітs you mean?
At the end of the day, its up to the people to hold their leaders responsible. The Russian people, by saying "I'm not political", just mean they're afraid to hold their government responsible for anything. And its tragic and terrifying
What is responsibility in this case you mean?
Patriarch Cyril II in Moscow has described the illegal invasion of Ukraine as a "holy war" and held out the prospect of forgiveness for all sins.
The Russian Orthodox Church has thus taken its position and should be sanctioned accordingly.
It's not a Christian church, it's a heretical association that worships the very ideology that sought to destroy Christianity in eastern Europe
🇫🇮 Finland without NATO =
1. Finland has street party
2. Putin declares street party "terrorism" and "provocation" and RU invasion begins
Exactly Russia in 2022 🤣
@@thetoughcookie3665 I wish!
The Problem has always been Russia as opposed to just Putin. Look at the history. It will continue to be a problem after he's gone until something significant happens and Russia being the catalyst for that is unlikely.
I deeply feel with the Finns, and with polish people, and with baltic people.
I have strongest sentiments anti-Putin and anti russian imperialism. Sentiments that overwhelm my soul. They are the most overwhelming negative feelings i have ever felt in my live. I guess i would have felt similarly against Hitler and nazi Germany if i was from that generation.
Just look at the comments here and on every video about Ukraine or Ruzzia. There’s good reason for anti Ruzzian sentiment in the developed, civilized world…
@Vel ez Al Asif its called the truth
@@samipan3410 yikes. Get an education before you embarrass yourself further
If that is what "Civilized world" looks like, I would rather call myself uncivilized.
Putin and Lavrov to the Hague!
No. Biden, Blinken and all the others of that US warmonger clique should be there.
Hey there. Finn here. We've had a pretty tense relationship with Russia at the best of times since the end of the Continuation War in 1944, and ther fact that we have had to balance our relationship with the Kremlin and the West for almost 80 years means that we have some incredibly unique insight into the mind of Russia. We Finns have always been wary of Russians and now that Russia has invaded another sovereign, neighbouring country, which we all recognise could have just as easily been Finland, we've had our worst fears confirmed.
Finland 🇫🇮 is on the right side of history.
The other side is: Russia, China, and North Korea.
Xi Xinping and Kim Jong Un were overheard on an intercepted call laughing at Putin and mocking Russia. My guess is they're just biding their time, waiting to snap up some of the leftovers.
@@NZobservatory China = yes. They have unfinished business in the east.
I can see your comment on bbc fox and Bloomberg as well, is it your job? you havnt answer me
And serbia and africa
@@bornatona3954 Well, at least Serbian mass murderers in former Yugoslavia are on the wrong side of history.
European government peoplehave been bribed quite massively by Russia in the past few years im sure. Hopefully many of them will get busted.
usually the opposition and not actually members of the government. though that might have been the case in some countries.
@@karigrandi7 Even in the EU are people with scandals in the past. But it seems to be getting more and more attention, mostly because the crisis and bad economic situation.