CAC & Tell - Better Date/Grade Morgan Dollar Submission Part 1 - Pre Long Beach Coin Show
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1880: www.oldpueblocoin.com/product...
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Ben The Coin Geek
Old Pueblo Coin
His videos are like ASMR for coin nerds
Almost as good as soap 🧼 cutting 🔪
This is the “Myth of CAC” - that it makes us more discerning collectors. When there is no explanation for a failed submission, how are we more educated?
I woke up in Hong Kong this morning (Saturday) wondering what I was going to do today. Then I saw a 36 minute video from Ben. Check.
The coins that you get to hold. I still think that is the best part of what you do.
Your honesty is very much admired. I wonder how many other dealers would just set these coins that did not CAC aside and sell them using the pitch line "they have not been to CAC yet".
CAC - praying for favour to the latest of the Grading Gods…
Goodness that MS68 79-S is amazing! I can understand not stickering a coin with a fingerprint or a planchet flaw, but why on earth did that one not CAC. I'd be proud to have my name on that one.
This is why I've always argued that CAC is simply a very expensive sticker company. As long as they don't give an explanation for their actions, it's a complete guessing game as to what they saw, liked, and disliked. CACG will be leagues more legit than CAC.
Some of those NGC MS67s are insane to me, no way would they get close to that grade from PCGS.
Great show Ben.
Having been squirrelled away in bank vaults for decades until they were no longer needed for circulation, these coins are like NIFC's and really a lot more common than they otherwise would be. Equivalent European gold coins are selling mostly as bullion. It's only the huge American coin collecting community that gives them such insane values. I have purchased BU 1870's French 5 franc coins for a little over spot.
I’m so excited to c u at the Long Beach coin show! Your videos are great
Man, some of those are just popping! I can see why you hand picked them, and expected good grades! That one CC had me drooling! And San Fran has some nicely struck Morgans, but those were exceptional! Agree the 1880/9 is under graded at 64. Keep showing beautiful coins, and what details grading services are looking for to get the high grades!
It isn’t crazy to spend more money to graded already graded coins. All of those coins are beautiful by the way. I might have been in a higher tax bracket at the end of life but I chose to be a teacher and I love very well-loved raw Morgan dollars. Thanks for sharing these Ben.
Very educational video, and quite a group of nice coins. Not surprised at all on the MS67 1883. Too distracting of a mark/fingerprint in the worst possible spot on the coin - right on the cheek. Love the look of that 85 DPL. Every time I thought you were done showing the DMPL/PL Morgans, you'd pull out another one. Wow.
Oh my goodness. It's pretty rare that I wish I had $20,000 to just spend, but after seeing those Morgans I feel that way. Thank you for sharing those with us. I'm sorry you got burned on some of them, btw. You should have had more green beans!
I have just over 1200 dollars, but only a few look this good.
Beautiful coins Mr Geek!!
Now that they're a competing grading service, it no longer serves their business interests to sticker an NGC or PCGS graded coin. Why would they endorse their competition?
Vielen Dank für den interessanten Content. Ein Update Film, wenn CAC die ersten Münzen gegradet hat, wäre toll.
Danke
I think the problem with recent CAC submissions is that they were being deluged by submissions and by default tons of coins were being stickered and now that they have started charging for each it was a way of keeping the CAC numbers from flooding the market. Is the premium worth it if there are thousands of other perspectives out there is what people would start to wonder. Also I think that the start up of CAC grading is pulling a lot of the resources and probably key graders.
And yes, the 78 8tf absolutely should have stickered. Very attractive coin!
This video made my year so far, super and excellent coins. I don't know which one to buy, but I'm buying one of them. Last train to Clarksville here. Been knows me.
The only issue I have is when dealers people start charging as they say a premium for coins over there graded value you are creating a false Market for the coin because if that coin ever in back into market place again that customer will lose a lot does not make sense
Very beautiful coins Ben even with out a sticker.
You really pick the beautiful fields gotta give you that.
Cool clash mark on the 87P @13:35 Did someone miss a VAM? 😉
Nice toning on 1899
Some very pretty dollars, Ben!!!
For the 1882-CC, too many bag marks on liberty's face for a 64 to get CAC, Those mirrors are fine.
I’ll say the ‘88-O is the most well struck 88-0 I’ve seen. The reverse had a bit more chatter than I’d like for a six. Obverse was stunning but I think the reverse held that one back from the green bean. In my opinion.
Truth!
Thanks for the video!
You're welcome!
Oof. Tough sub, but understandable given the tougher coins, especially the DMPLs. Hopefully you get a higher hit rate in part 2!
You can almost count dmpl coins out ! 😆
Hey Ben, I understand spending money to get coins certified. I do it myself, but the grade on the coin would hold its value and is believable because of what NGC and PCGS already certified the coin to be. Why have it re-verified? The coins already been verified as genuine and given a grade for a price guide. That is a racket and if you feel it's beneficial to the coin, then I guess it's valid. Is it really necessary though? So if CAC doesn't give you the green bean, then does that mean the coin is not really the grade the two top tier grading companies certified? I should make a blue bean and charge to say "yes I confirm PCGS and NGC".
1889 Philly❤ WOW, thats a beautiful morgan! I guess I still don't understand CAC, so they can decline to sticker it ?
I committed way too early..should have waited for the end to see some "WOW" morgans !!
@@ammocan2796Thanks
Again, a few words of explanation by the grading companies would be so nice. Not only would it put the customers a bit more at ease about the received grade but also greatly increase the customer's knowledge about how the grading companies operate. It couldn't take more than a few seconds to add those words.
Great point!
For the 1893-P, I think the gashes on Liberty's face are just a little too severe to get the sticker. I agree though, the 1893-P I think is undervalued at the moment.
CAC stickers are the biggest scam in numismatics.
A nice group! Will CAC continue to sticker coins now that they are grading coins?
JA said yes. For the foreseeable future.
1883 ms67 I cant believe that got a 67 with that face all sliced up. I have a ms66+ thats way better. The face on that 67 has slice after slice. Its amazing to me I just would never. I mean the fields are beautiful but to me the device is more important than fields. I can see overall you go after the fields. Just a observation but I have never seen a morgan with that many cuts on the face go 67.
Was that a Ren & Stimpy reference at 13:00? "No sir, I don't like it."
Obviously a sticker from just anybody (a no-name) doesn't mean much, if anything. But John Albanese is considered one of the best in the business. To get his stamp of approval is saying something.
Which is better... a 64PL with a sticker or a 65DPL without a sticker?
66! Lol . (Yes the 65dpl)
Hey Ben, is there any reason as to why some coins might be “harder to come by in higher grades” than others?
I’m relatively new to the hobby but I’m curious.
Thanks!
How much for the 99,morgan? Providing that it's for sale.
1899 is beautiful
Looks like cac only put stickers on undergraded coins.
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Hi Ben. Are you going to California with a banjo on your knee? Be sure to wear a flower in your hair. Don't worry about taking an umbrella. It never rains in Southern California. Have a safe trip, and I hope you have a good show. Have a fantastic weekend, My Friend.
02-O Philly?
Who edits the guy talking ?
@@TheCoinGeek ha! Cute. I just wasn't quite sure what it was at first...
You said grade by date or grade by coin. Shouldn’t all grades be by coin?
The 79s in ms68 was a 66+ imo and no way would Cac. The 93p is an awesome date n grade but looks like an average 63 to me. Keep in mind it’s not necessarily so much that it’s solid for the grade but above the average example in said grade. However you wanna phrase it but yes needs to be above the baseline examples.
I’m glad you’re doing this Ben although I know you’ve been reluctant. It will expand your eye as it has mine
Thanks for the info
EVERY TIME I SEE A BIG THUMB PRINT ON A BEAUTIFUL COIN I THINK SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE BEEN SLAPPED. 😊
I would give you $1000each for the nicer 67s
Send me a message please if you are selling these coins,or if it's one of your customers. Thanks
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The second ms67 is BEAUTIFUL, I'LL GIVE YOU $1000 FOR THAT IN A SECOND. COMPARE THAT TO THE FIRST MS67 WITH ALL THE SLICES ON THE FACE AND I THINK I MADE MY POINT. HOW CAN THEY POSSIBLY BOTH BE 67'S, NO WAY!!! WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE 2021 HIGH RELIEF PEACE IN MS70. HIGH RELIEF, I CANT HELP IT I LOVE THEM. WOULD YOU SELL THAT MS68 FOR $4000. THAT AND THE NICE 67 FOR $1000 I WOULD BE SERIOUSLY INTERESTED IN THOSE TWO.
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Uno
Morgan's are kind of boring
Please please sell me that 1893 morgan ms63plesae
www.oldpueblocoin.com/product/549311-1893
Are you really jumping on the CAC bandwagon or is this just for content?