Sinking the boat? In ocean seacock change - Sailing Western Australia Ep 147
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- Sinking the boat? In ocean seacock change - Sailing Western Australia Ep 147
How to change the saildrive seacocks while still in the water
Have you ever talked yourself out of something because you think it would be too hard, or its not the 'normal' way, or because everyone tells you you can't? In this episode we take the road less trodden and find that we get to our destination in one piece, in a fraction of the time, expense and effort it would have cost us to do it the 'right' way.
Most people attempt this task on the hard, (out of the water) which calls for the expense of a haul out and all the faffing about that takes. We are very grateful we had the help of shipwright Byron who offered his time and expertise for free. He taught us how to get the job done quickly and showed us that completing this little bit of maintenance while still in the water is not as scary as you'd think.
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In 1997, after rowing at the Atlanta Olympics, Rob rowed a tiny 7m (22 foot) plywood boat 2,500 miles from Tenerife (Canary Islands) to Barbados (Caribbean). It took six weeks for Rob and rowing partner, Phil Stubbs, to complete winning the inaugural Atlantic Rowing Race.
Skip forward to 2014 and, married with three children, Rob and his wife Rachel purchased Javelot, a 43 ft Fountaine Pajot catamaran. Armed only with Rob's 3 years of racing P class yachts from the age of 11 to 13, and Rachel's non existent sailing knowledge, We set off to learn the ropes of ocean sailing. We broke stuff, replaced stuff and got to know their boat before heading offshore with the kids, Finn (then 13), Declan (then 11) and Ivan (then 8), in tow. Through trial and error we have become confident wayfarers, kind of.
The plan? To sail around the world.
Part of the journey will be retracing Rob’s eldest brother Kerry’s travels at sea. Using Kerry’s original letters from the 1970’s we hope to retrace his movements from Australia through Indonesia and South East Asia to Cambodia where Kerry’s life was cut short after straying into Cambodian waters in 1978. Kerry and two friends were attacked by a Khmer Rouge gun boat, captured, tortured and executed. www.brothernumberone.co.nz
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Although the boys get wet, this episode features quite a dry subject so we thought we'd finish with a bang.
No one was hurt in the making of this episode, except maybe Rob. Did you spot the cut on his head which he received searching for that missing connection?
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Oh wonderful finish......still chuckling😂
Oh my heart as I watch Ivan on his new scooter...mad lucky young man
Haha glad you liked the end. Ivan is very lucky. He loves the scooter and spends a lot of time at the skate park.
Proven, reliable batteries, "Just like Declan here..."😁😁😁
Kudos to Byron!
Now to look out 'faffing' found in the description. Perhaps the Kiwi equivalent of... well, perhaps not. Regards.
Oh dear is faffing not a word used in the US? It basically means to waste time messing about with a project. For example, "You've been faffing around with that for hours and it's still not finished."
My pocket Collin's dictionary is so old it's penciled-in price reads 6/- and 30p. Makes sense, I lived there during the great metric shift. So, yes, fooling around. Thanks! dw.
@@danielwardin4688 goodness the metric shift came in the year of my (Rachel) birth 1971. Was the word faffing created less than 50 years ago, hard to believe. I don't remember a time when you couldn't faff. In fact if faffing were an Olympic sport we would definitely be on the podium 😄.
Brilliant 😂
Lucky Ivan...takes my breath away watching him 😳
Mine too.
Your ending was a real blast....ha ha ha!
Thanks JC we went out with a bang!
I love the Robfixes! The seacock swap was well planned and presented beautifully; I’ve done very similar things to my old Volvo land yacht. But, a cliff hanger ending?!! You’re much higher quality than any prime time tv show, don’t stoop to their level!
Cliff hanger? More like a bit of humour for April fools day 😉.
@@TheCruisingKiwis wonderfully done!
@@TheCruisingKiwis well a fun April Fools we had.
@@TheCruisingKiwis Rob is a treasure no doubt about it. His humor and approach to life are inspiring.
Who would’ve thought the plastic bag would have so many uses? Love the humor, you certainly went out with a 💥
Congratulations on making it to the punch line Greg. We thought this episode was a tad on the dry side, plastic bag and all!
Well done Rob , you’re a legend !
Was a legend 😉.
@@TheCruisingKiwis haha
Double checked, triple checked….quadruple checked?….got it…no worries, our Rob is on the job. 😂 Congratulations on the new wheels Ivan! Laughed out loud at the ending. Thank you my Kiwi brethren.
You are most welcome
ROB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks for another great video Rachel, Declan and Ivan. OK now we will need to see Rob in the human reources office first thing on Monday.
Love you all be safe
Haha, little known fact, Rob got his election ticket after leaving school. I give him a hard time editing these vlogs but he is really quite proficient 😊
@@TheCruisingKiwis With out a dough in my mind Rob is Great!!!!! I just like to pick on him a bit, you keep the ego in check. Rob no need to show up in the HR office, we will let this slide, but you will need to clean up the mess.
@@lmcnesby8085 we're a tag team L, between us that ego has no hope 😊.
Hi Rob, I was your Uber driver yesterday. It was wonderful meeting you and knowing your novel purpose of appreciating nature and learning from different cultures. I hope you enjoy your stay in WA and safe journey ahead.
Hey thank you Nakib! Lovely to hear from you and thanks for getting me safely to my destination! Good luck with your studies!!
Boom 💥 what a way to end the episode 👏
Fantastic that Byron is a handy crew member to have
Changing the seacocks while still in the briney is a great skill.
Another interesting episode 🤔 👏
Thanks for the entertainment
Stay safe
Cheers from the Tron 🏞 🏔 👍 👌 😀
Thanks Rob, a bit of fun at the end there to put a smile on your face 😉. We were very lucky to have Byron on hand. He made the whole job effortless.
Bwahahaha love the april fools joke!! 😂🤣😂🤣
Just checking people are still awake 😁.
Stunning Black Swan! 🦢
Beautiful indeed
Great ending!
U always keep me chuckling
Needed a few laughs after a dry maintenance section.
"U- huh"! knowing your family character and the fact that this is April 01 :) :) :)
Pinch and a punch for the first of the month 😄
Love the cruising kiwi’s. Everyone should be watching!!!
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I will say this repeatedly, I love seeing videos of the repair work y'all have to do. The seacock repair reminded me of a time when my plumber changed the bottom heating element of my water heater without draining the 50-gallon tank (which would have taken an extra half-hour) - he merely put the nozzle of a wet-dray vacuum under the element, removed the element, the vacuum sucked up the escaping water until he screwed the new element into place. Not a single drop of water touched the floor! The lesson from my water heater repair and your seacock repair is that repairmen who really know what they are doing really do know what they are doing.
So true as is the converse scenario!🙂 There is always something to learn every day.
Sorry about your noggin Rob. Thanks for the climactic ending. 😂 Hugs from Texas 😎
Thanks Bobbie.
The reason your channel stands out is the humour. Informative and entertaining. I'm guessing you didn't upload this posthumously and there's no reports of an entire Australian marina blowing up due to careless kiwis, so I'm hoping you'll post next week as usual!
You'll just have to watch next week and see 🤔
LoVed the ending, out with a bang 😂
Being such a dry episode it needed something to make it a little bit memorable.
I was hoping the failed seacock would have been replaced by a Kiwi Tru-design composite one.
But well done regardless as any in water job like that can be a mission.
That adaptation was my original plan from nine months earlier when we were hauled out. To do that job can't be done in the water. We have tru design items in the boat though. It's a great product.
🤣😂 going out with a bang. Please tell me this an April fools day joke?
You'll have to watch next week to find out.
Hi Cruising Kiwis super vlog yet again. Keep them coming and thank you for taking the time to share with us all
Appreciate
Take care
Thanks Julie though challenging to produce they are nice to have documented.
I hope you all survived the blast at the end 💥
I'm happy to report we are all still alive and kicking 🤣
Braver than me, hauling out to replace all thruhull fittings, sea cocks with TruDesign NZ next month. Still laughing 😃 at the ending, perfect. 🤣🤣🤣
That or somewhat imperfect. Hehe nice one thanks Genie. Go trudesign!
Out with a bang! I almost fell asleep in this video as the excitement ended after Fritz left the screen 😀 Or maybe that was lack of sleep due to my shoulder conundrum. Well boat work is inevitable. Eagerly awaiting videos with even more angles of Quokkas and lobsters! Well done crew.
😂🤣...and the award goes to... Fritz...arise young star.
No Quokkas or lobster for you next week but we do have mushroom shaped rocks😉.
Oooh! That’s even better!
Great episode! Stay safe Kiwi's!! 👍👍👊👊⛵⛵
Thanks TW
You go Ivan 👍👍
He is tearing up the skate park 😊
You guys are always good for a laugh! Thanks for that and nice scooter!
Ivan is loving the scooter and has been putting it through its paces.
I have Aldi bags! My favorite place to shop. A whole cart of groceries for $117. It'd have been at least $175 at the big-box grocery stores.
You have Aldi bags? Then you're all ready for your own in water seacock change 😄. But seriously , we have only discovered Aldi since coming to Australia. Love it 🤩
Another great episode from my Kiwi friends from down under. Great editing Rachel , you are getting really good with your creativity. 🤠🤘👍
Thank you Texan.
That's kind of the ending I expected LOL 🎇
Great that the seacock and battery job got done. I nearly forgot Ivan was such an active scooter ace! Congrats on the new one, Ivan!!! We all know you will enjoy it.
Haha poor Rob, I just couldn't let that opportunity go to waste. It's difficult to keep Ivan out of the skate parks now.
Thanks guys
Cheers Trev.
Nice plumbing 😉👌
I hope you don't say that to all the blokes Robert! 🙂
Lol, great video as always. The crew never disappoints. Thanks for your hard work in making the videos and sharing your live
Thank you Thomas, we are happy you are enjoying our journey.
Thanks - great video!
You're most welcome Alf.
You guys inspire us! We bought a catamaran in January. We have it in charter until 2024 when we plan to take our kids and sail for a year. Thank you for being real.
That's brilliant Rika. Will you get to sail it before then?
so sad your boat blew up... auld lang syne to the Javelot...guess frenchie boat cannot handle English batteries... it was fascinating to watch superman change the seacock (wonder what the original labeler was drinking when he formulated this word...hmmm pirates and their rum). Glad that iVan shown the day he replaced his scooter. Did he ever baptize his scooter with a name? KiwiKewl or tasmanianDevil. iVan you are most welcomed... go and conquer the park with awesome tricks...
I don't think Ivan has named his scooter, I'll have to ask him next time I see him. Since he's had that new machine he is a stranger on this boat. He has developed a host of like minded scooter friends along the West coast of Australia. It's a good thing.
@@TheCruisingKiwis the only way for iVan to master new tricks is to observe what others are doing... if only he is as diligent with his school hahaha...i wonder if scooter and schooling are synonymous. Practice makes perfect so let him spend the day at the park learning and perfecting his skillsets. He needs it for the competition...didnt he sign up for one? hope he has fun competing.
@@chaoyoong9987 he was due to compete last weekend but unfortunately it was cancelled due to bad weather.
Nandji has a video from way back where the prop shaft was remove, cutlass bearing replaced, and prop shaft put back in. Sailing into freedom had a lightning hit and it blew a hole in the boat and the "bladder/gasquet" wrapped around the prop shaft, he was able to repair it, but it was a good lesson on one of the places water can come from.
There you go. It is daunting to perform tasks that allow water to pour in to your boat but just shows you you don't have to haul out for everything.
Good work, nice explanation.
Thank you!
The suspense!
Hold onto your hat!
Was it worth the wait? 🙂
@@TheCruisingKiwis it was for me
Loved the ending. Not sure how you managed to rescue the footage 🙂Also not sure how people break scooters and not the other way round!
It is remarkable that we haven't had more than scraped knees and the odd twisted ankle from scootering and skateboarding.
That last explosion was pretty impressive. It made Ivan's voice raise by 2 octaves.
Lithium as far as i know comes in different formula's. Basically the more energy dense the battery the more unstable it can be. And there are lithium types that are just as safe as Lead Acid. But they cost a lot more money.
I would be interested to know how those batteries fair in a lightening strike.
@@TheCruisingKiwis It would all be down to the control circuitry. But otherwise I don't know how they would do.
Good call on the no lithium, Toyota is developing a solid state lithium battery that "might" be much safer.
Emphasis on the 'might.'
Hey thanks nice
Video
Always a pleasure to see your family . That sail blowing out at the foot scares me!! Crikey!!
You would be surprised with those sea cocks how little water comes in if you don’t block the inlets , we’ve been taking off the seacock in the water quickly using a 1/2 inch BSB brass plug from the hardware store to block that hole in the leg if you need to work on the the system, and the water coming in has been quite manageable although it’s scary at first . Those brass seacock are a true pain in the butt so much so that I bought a stainless steel valve and fittings and wouldn’t you know they won’t go on because they foul on the lip of the rubber boot around the leg!! So back to the brass, but soaking in hull cleaner for about ten minutes with an hour of cursing at them trying to unblock the thread by turning about a thousand times kinda fixes them. But now I’m jealous of your new ones and I’m going to do that . Can you remember how much they cost ?
Thanks John. I purchased a while bunch of engine gear at the same time so off top of my head can't remember cost. Will come back to you if I find invoice. And if you missed the episode this is where the tack blew out. th-cam.com/video/9X45egBjfQc/w-d-xo.html
Almost ALL of the 2 dozen or so sailing channels that I watch are using lithium (LiFePO4) batteries. They love them. I don't think catching fire is that much of an issue.
Yeah they are clearly a step above what we have for many reasons. However, the advice we had from our Marine electrician suggested they are still a developing technology and if the current set up does the job then for us at least the status quo is adequate.
Great video guys! Great to see all went well with the sea cox replacement Rob.
New tricks to learn on the new scooter for the fans Declan.
EMC did the heavy lifting, well done mate!
A ripper endng too Rachel. 😁
A great team effort guys!
Thanks Mick. Might be up your way this week.
@@TheCruisingKiwis Hey guys, that's great! We are at work at the moment. We return Thursday evening.
It would be great to catch up with you guys.
Classic ending Rachel. Yes as promised ou finished with a bang! Well done Byron. And well done Rob. Yes he did something. But most notably, he did it without injuring himself! Worthy of mention I thought. Interesting what you are saying about batteries. I am thinking in terms of upgrading Arana's power generation and storage and was wondering about the lead acid/lithium conundrum.
Spent another night in sunny Te Pahu last Wedenesday. And yes, it was sunny. And very hot!
Good to hear Te Pahu is still turning on the weather. You're more of a local than us now.
Lithium or lead acid comes down to personal choice. Our friends The Wholesome Sailors love their lithium batteries and they probably have a longer shelf life than lead acid.
Hey Rob, good job of the batteries, weren't you an Alec Chicken back in NZ?
Thanks Sausage yes I was and, hard to believe, all those buildings are still standing. However, if 24 sunshine crescent, Whakatane should come on the market stay well clear!
Changing the sea cocks using a plastic bag, ear muffs and a wooden bung is as kiwi as it gets 😂, and agree re lead acid agm batteries, they are very heavy but proven technology, the 2 on my boat are 64 kgs total weight compared to 15 kgs for a 24 volt lithium,not to mention the extra $$
The batteries decision is up for debate but the tools for the job are not!🙂
@@TheCruisingKiwis they work a lot better when main power feed is connected 😂
Ha ha great slapstick ending. I have a boat in Fremantle needing the services of a shipwright - how would I contact Byron?
Can you private message through thecruisingkiwis@gmail.com or on Instagram and we will pass on Byron's number.
@@TheCruisingKiwis many thanks. Email sent
I'm really sad that this is the last episode.
It was nice getting to meet you all! 😉
Car batteries have a different chemistry Lithium Ion and much denser energy density so they can travel long distances. That’s why they are flammable. The ones used on boats are a different chemistry and lithium Iron Phosphate so not flammable. It is however a major job as all your charge controllers , alternators etc need modification so the cost will be probably triple the cost of drop in lead acid batteries.
“LiFePO4 (also known as Lithium Iron Phosphate) batteries are a huge improvement over lead acid in weight, capacity and shelf life. The LiFePO4 batteries are the safest type of Lithium batteries as they will not overheat, and even if punctured they will not catch on fire.”
Interesting thanks Rod. Do you know how they perform post lightning strike if all controllers are out?
and I so enjoyed your videos too.... presumably we have some bits of Perth left?
Perth is fine. Fremantle is a mess.
Rob, I think you're way behind the times as far as Lithum batteries are concerned. Not sure if you know how the airlines work but I spent 25 years in airline freight and was trained to the highest level as far as dangerous goods are concerned. IATA made the decision over 10 years ago to allow aircraft to carry them. Airlines have the strictest policy of all modes of transportation. We used to send up to 1,000 kgs of them on a 737. So I really think they've sorted out the problems now.
Yeah I remember trying to get our rowing boat sent on a cargo plane to UK and no way would they let flares be on board, so point taken. My big concern and that of some others is in a lightning strike which has happened to us. Maybe over cautious for sure but then we are happy with the output of what we have, though admittedly less weight would be nice!
@@TheCruisingKiwis I don't know if you check out "The Wynns" channel at all but they seem to have it down pat, but I don't think they've had a lightening strike. But then again they are making Cats powered by Lithium alone, with a backup Genny of course, and they dont have that big lightning rod stuck in the air.
You should really have got a qualified electrician to help with that battery install Rob. Oh wait…….
You're right, I should have called in Jason.
I’m catching up with Jason tomorrow plus others.
@@kenatkins620 let the carnage begin. Wish I was there to assist in proceedings
Yeah but... do you have an expendable middle battery?
An oversight, we will get one.
Kia Ora team, you should have got lithium!
Yeah there are plenty of upside to them but the lead acid works fine and I reckon safer, for the time being.
The most interesting I've seen for Lith-Ion battery system was an Auto-Flood compartment for the batteries. As soon as they start (smoke I assume), the compartment floods with sea water. Fire out. Little risk to the rest of the boat. But the batteries are done and repairs are needed. I'll see if I can find the video and post a reply of such. It was a "new boat" review.
That is interesting, we would love to see that video.
@@TheCruisingKiwis Thats a feature on the White designed Atlantic 55
@@TheCruisingKiwis the episode is when the O'kellys go onboard Chris White catamaran.
It is just a recent episode, regards Steve.
Found it. That took a minute or two... I'm not sure if I can post a video link here, so I'll do my best to describe, including time stamps for your reference. And I was wrong, it was a manual action. But an automated system would not be difficult to develop.
It was a video from: The O'Kelly's
Posted Mar 17, 2022
Title: "Sailing the ULTIMATE Performance Cruising Catamarans..."
Time stamp: 9:35 - 10:15 (roughly) - general topic of safety.
https : // www .youtube. com / watch?v=HfA8av0YaMs&t=615s
(Just remove the spaces from the link address.)
how come at 8:02 i see my self in the background and i dont see the clip of me doing the double tailwhip? - darragh
I haven't forgotten you Darragh, your time will come. I think Ollie's in the background too. Point it out to him. A bit blink and you miss it.
what if it was a throughhul under the boat.... i there a method for that?
That would be very difficult if not impossible due partly to the need to seal and set the replacement in the dry. I welcome others thoughts here.
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Thanks Jon. And thank you very much for joining the crew!
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Rob im suprised you havent embraced lithium.of course theres alway a boat catching fire and was lithium the real reason for the fire? i would question that, of corse the ship owners are blaming the lithium and not shodding install that would void the insurance claim, think about it, theres just to many lithium batts out there NOT going wrong. its got to the stage for liveaboards that they cant afford not to go lithium if you work out the long term cost. just my 10 cents (inflation) worth
I hear you loud and clear Simon. We were sorely tempted to go down that route but I had several people caution me including the marine sparky who did the repairs post lightning strike. I would love the flexibility and weight saving lithium gives yet the tried and true is reliable and proven without the risks of a developing technology. Next time for sure!
@@TheCruisingKiwis all good buddy. take care you guys.
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Thanks Doug.
great finnish lol
Just a bit of fun 😆.
What have you done with Rachel??? 🤔
Rachel who? 😉
OH NOOO!! Did Fremantle survive??? Will we see the Intrepid KIWIs again??? lol Nice ending guys.. We will see you again, won't we?? lol. Greetings from nearby Perth, Frank.
I couldn't possibly say Frank.🙂
@@TheCruisingKiwis AHA!! So you MUST have survived... Well done. Looking forward to seeing the devastation?? Cheers, Frank.