That thing - or better its offspring the MG 3- was an absolute beast but those 11,5kg were a pain in the a** to carry around on extended ruck marches 😂 but loved it
Heinrich Severloh maybe didn't just kill "only" hundreds, he has spoken for himself about 2.000 killings on Omaha Beach. There was another insane gunner with a fricking high kill rate on the Eastern front, but I don't remember his name.
even if you are lying flat on the ground, a good burst of fire from the MG3 can push you over the ground, so it is not so rare that small holes are dug for the feet to be able to control the recoil to some extent
The video starts of with a wrong assumption. The name Blitzkrieg was not used by the germans. I think that was after the war and the term was used mainly by the allies during the war. War of movement would be the correct translation of the term "Bewegungskrieg" the german army used. Thing is, that was already a thing way before WW2. 2:35 25 years ago during my conscript time i was trained on a derivate of it, and it didn't mess the shoulder up. Easy reason: you get taught how to push into it. We had to hold the MG just by our shoulder pushing into the bypod. Out instructor would stand on the flat top and you had to not use your hands to keep the Mg up. If you pushed into it that strongly, you would have a stable position for firing. And what the video says at 11:40 is also wrong. To adjust the rate of fire you need to change the weight of the bolt and the recoilspring. They have to match each other to work. That for example is the difference between the 1k rounds per minute of the current version the germans use vs the current version the austrians use. The germans use a jsut slightly heavier bolt than the 42 with a fitting spring, while the austrians use a way heavier bolt and an accordingly stiffer spring. ->german MG3 = around 1k rounds per minute, austrian MG74 around 750 rounds per minute. Same caliber. So it's not a real "switch the rate of fire" feature like the video makes people believe.
Actually it was called "Hitlersäge" (Hitler's Saw). But also Bone Saw or Hitler's Scythe. But to be honest, it wasn't even the fasted fireing machine gun. The prototype MG 34 S and especially the air defence MG 81Z were even faster.
If the bullets were hitting next to each other, it could also shoot plane or truck parts apart or cause a damage like a slit, not just doing some single holes...
The video covers an important point : You could be killed at any time, even for “little things”. German soldiers had two ( well three ) options: You were killed by the enemy, you were killed by your own men ( or you were taken prisoner of war ...and depending on which side, you were then killed ). The Germans committed countless crimes against humanity (with the help of several other states, which somehow became “good” after the end of the war). The USA then had several leaders executed, and hired several top scientists and engineers, who were actually mainly “bad”, only that they were now suddenly “good”, at least “good enough”, from Germany. Then they made sure that “evil” Germany, with numerous “Nazis”, some of whom were convinced for life, could quickly rebuild itself and also form an army again and the Russians, who always point out how many human losses they had to accept, also allowed East Germany to do the same, except for a reasonable economic reconstruction. Now the “West Germans” were the “just about good guys” from the US point of view and the East Germans were the “just about good guys” from the Russian point of view. 🙈🙉🙊
The reality is that there were many cases where German soldiers refused to kill civilians and were not punished, let alone executed. In most cases, service on firing squads was voluntary and paid for in hard liquor served after the killing or as extra rations. Technically, even under German law, these orders were war crimes, and a court martial would be hard pressed to defend someone being sentenced to death for refusing an illegal order. It was not a matter of refusing orders during combat. So most of the time nothing happened - the only problem for the refusing soldiers was that their platoon and commanding officers saw them as cowards or troublemakers, or simply did not approve of their refusal - which could make your life difficult by giving you extra duties and chores, but nothing like the threat of death. This was mostly a myth created after the war to bolster the "I was just following orders" defence. This is proven by countless sources and many works by renowned historians and scholars.
@@40hup Good point, pity it was over for just over 20000 soldiers after all (but who kept a record of all those executions? ). With their lives. Word might have gotten around then that it's bad to wage war where you then have all the soldiers killed who are supposed to be fighting the war. I mean technically that was “not many”. But still a good point, far too many volunteered to carry out the atrocities they were mostly ordered to do, but absolutely and too often, not always. Sadly often enough there were “sadists” or “blind” recipients of orders among them. Unfortunately, many of these soldiers did not have the information from countless sources and “renowned” historians and “scholars” at the time. We could then continue with the People's Court (under Roland Freisler), which more often affected civilians, and that basically only “very few” were sentenced to death there before they were ridiculed in public And then you think to yourself, maybe the regime wasn't really that bad. My text was perhaps a little over the top, but if you don't talk to “countless” sources and “renowned historians and scholars”, but to real people who lived during that time, which I did. The danger of being executed (or punished) existed constantly. At least in the minds of most people. I agree with ( if you agreed to this )you that the Wehrmacht, and of course the SS, committed terrible deeds. Without wanting to relativize that in any way. However, the use of the word “voluntary” is quite daring when it comes to people who were either “educated” to follow the National Socialist(!!!) ideology or who were actually “educated” in the ideology to always(!) obey orders from superiors (Prussian military mentality) or were simply afraid that, despite all the “legal protection”, they could be next and “the hard liquor” that could await them would "vanished" from them forever. “Voluntary” and voluntary also meant different things at the time. Absolutely agree that unfortunately there were far too many (German, because other nations seem to act “guilt-free” and were “forced” to cooperate with the Germans) soldiers who actually voluntarily participated in atrocities against humanity, There is nothing to gloss over. I just wanted to express what I think about it.
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That thing - or better its offspring the MG 3- was an absolute beast but those 11,5kg were a pain in the a** to carry around on extended ruck marches 😂 but loved it
Heinrich Severloh maybe didn't just kill "only" hundreds, he has spoken for himself about 2.000 killings on Omaha Beach.
There was another insane gunner with a fricking high kill rate on the Eastern front, but I don't remember his name.
7:00 they told you!!It´s a tripod!!
Dispite they reduced the cadence and caliber on this gun it still today has a strong recoil.
There worse MGs....
even if you are lying flat on the ground, a good burst of fire from the MG3 can push you over the ground, so it is not so rare that small holes are dug for the feet to be able to control the recoil to some extent
The video starts of with a wrong assumption. The name Blitzkrieg was not used by the germans. I think that was after the war and the term was used mainly by the allies during the war. War of movement would be the correct translation of the term "Bewegungskrieg" the german army used.
Thing is, that was already a thing way before WW2.
2:35 25 years ago during my conscript time i was trained on a derivate of it, and it didn't mess the shoulder up.
Easy reason: you get taught how to push into it. We had to hold the MG just by our shoulder pushing into the bypod. Out instructor would stand on the flat top and you had to not use your hands to keep the Mg up. If you pushed into it that strongly, you would have a stable position for firing.
And what the video says at 11:40 is also wrong. To adjust the rate of fire you need to change the weight of the bolt and the recoilspring. They have to match each other to work. That for example is the difference between the 1k rounds per minute of the current version the germans use vs the current version the austrians use. The germans use a jsut slightly heavier bolt than the 42 with a fitting spring, while the austrians use a way heavier bolt and an accordingly stiffer spring. ->german MG3 = around 1k rounds per minute, austrian MG74 around 750 rounds per minute. Same caliber.
So it's not a real "switch the rate of fire" feature like the video makes people believe.
It was called SAW since it FIRED SO FAST that the Bullets.... put you apart....
Actually it was called "Hitlersäge" (Hitler's Saw). But also Bone Saw or Hitler's Scythe. But to be honest, it wasn't even the fasted fireing machine gun. The prototype MG 34 S and especially the air defence MG 81Z were even faster.
If the bullets were hitting next to each other, it could also shoot plane or truck parts apart or cause a damage like a slit, not just doing some single holes...
The video covers an important point :
You could be killed at any time, even for “little things”. German soldiers had two ( well three ) options: You were killed by the enemy, you were killed by your own men ( or you were taken prisoner of war ...and depending on which side, you were then killed ).
The Germans committed countless crimes against humanity (with the help of several other states, which somehow became “good” after the end of the war).
The USA then had several leaders executed, and hired several top scientists and engineers, who were actually mainly “bad”, only that they were now suddenly “good”, at least “good enough”, from Germany.
Then they made sure that “evil” Germany, with numerous “Nazis”, some of whom were convinced for life, could quickly rebuild itself and also form an army again and the Russians, who always point out how many human losses they had to accept, also allowed East Germany to do the same, except for a reasonable economic reconstruction.
Now the “West Germans” were the “just about good guys” from the US point of view and the East Germans were the “just about good guys” from the Russian point of view. 🙈🙉🙊
The reality is that there were many cases where German soldiers refused to kill civilians and were not punished, let alone executed. In most cases, service on firing squads was voluntary and paid for in hard liquor served after the killing or as extra rations. Technically, even under German law, these orders were war crimes, and a court martial would be hard pressed to defend someone being sentenced to death for refusing an illegal order. It was not a matter of refusing orders during combat. So most of the time nothing happened - the only problem for the refusing soldiers was that their platoon and commanding officers saw them as cowards or troublemakers, or simply did not approve of their refusal - which could make your life difficult by giving you extra duties and chores, but nothing like the threat of death. This was mostly a myth created after the war to bolster the "I was just following orders" defence. This is proven by countless sources and many works by renowned historians and scholars.
@@40hup Good point, pity it was over for just over 20000 soldiers after all (but who kept a record of all those executions? ). With their lives.
Word might have gotten around then that it's bad to wage war where you then have all the soldiers killed who are supposed to be fighting the war.
I mean technically that was “not many”.
But still a good point, far too many volunteered to carry out the atrocities they were mostly ordered to do, but absolutely and too often, not always.
Sadly often enough there were “sadists” or “blind” recipients of orders among them.
Unfortunately, many of these soldiers did not have the information from countless sources and “renowned” historians and “scholars” at the time.
We could then continue with the People's Court (under Roland Freisler), which more often affected civilians, and that basically only “very few” were sentenced to death there before they were ridiculed in public
And then you think to yourself, maybe the regime wasn't really that bad.
My text was perhaps a little over the top, but if you don't talk to “countless” sources and “renowned historians and scholars”, but to real people who lived during that time, which I did.
The danger of being executed (or punished) existed constantly.
At least in the minds of most people.
I agree with ( if you agreed to this )you that the Wehrmacht, and of course the SS, committed terrible deeds. Without wanting to relativize that in any way.
However, the use of the word “voluntary” is quite daring when it comes to people who were either “educated” to follow the National Socialist(!!!) ideology or who were actually “educated” in the ideology to always(!) obey orders from superiors (Prussian military mentality) or were simply afraid that, despite all the “legal protection”, they could be next and “the hard liquor” that could await them would "vanished" from them forever.
“Voluntary” and voluntary also meant different things at the time.
Absolutely agree that unfortunately there were far too many (German, because other nations seem to act “guilt-free” and were “forced” to cooperate with the Germans) soldiers who actually voluntarily participated in atrocities against humanity,
There is nothing to gloss over.
I just wanted to express what I think about it.
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