Selection of Bishop Billy D. Murray as COGOP General Overseer (1990)

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  • @charliefisher9680
    @charliefisher9680 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a powerful service and great display of Giving Jesus the Preeminence by yielding to the Holy Spirit.
    Bishop Billy D. Murray was such a gift to The Church of God of Prophecy and a humble servant to Bishop M.A. Tomlinson. Bishop Murray wasn't seeking mans approval here or anywhere else and did many things behind the scenes as a humble servant.
    I had the honor of being in the service when this happened. Bishop John Doroshuk was also one of the men led by the Holy Spirit here and who is known as a wonderful Man of God. 1 Tim 5:17 "Let the elders who rule well be counted to receive double honor, especially those whole labor in word and doctrine."

  • @cathyparr6827
    @cathyparr6827 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love this. I had heard about it when it happened. I was unable to be at assembly that year. But, I met Bro. Murray many times after this. He was a very anointed man. He had a glow about his face. This is the most powerfully spiritual video I've ever seen. I'm so glad you posted it.

  • @robertmontgomery5959
    @robertmontgomery5959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting to me that one year after this event, he (Billy Murray) pushed through a Q&S recommendation to change doctrine that went against nearly 90 years (at that time) of long-held belief by the entire church regarding the 26th teaching. This was just the beginning of more extreme changes to come.

    • @RonnieTabasco
      @RonnieTabasco 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am not a part of the COGOP or The Church of God… but I don’t think I’ve ever seen people so bitter about something in all my life.
      The group that splintered off of this group made a video recently trying to destroy the character of this man. The organization put out a video that named names and pronounced judgment upon them.

    • @robertmontgomery5959
      @robertmontgomery5959 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @RonnieTabasco I'm not sure what you're referring to as "bitter" - I would call standing for God's word as noble. Also what video are you referring to? Do you have a link or title?

    • @RonnieTabasco
      @RonnieTabasco 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @elenorbennett1504
    @elenorbennett1504 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard about this my mom spoke to the same God then same God now

  • @jamesmathis380
    @jamesmathis380 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Praise the Lord!! What a day that was. I remember being there that day.

  • @Hernandez-i1o
    @Hernandez-i1o 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excelente recuerdos

  • @truth4grace580
    @truth4grace580 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Grew up in the COGOP in the 80s, as a kid, I saw many powerful moves of God then, but sadly its not that way anymore, as for many churches. When I gave my life to God as an adult 11yrs ago, the Lord told me churches are no longer preaching Holiness, Repentance, or My return. The Lord told me He was coming soon and the churches are in apostasy. The Lord is coming for a Remnant called by His name. Do not get caught up in denominations or man. Do your homework and read the book of Acts, it is the original church, do as they did, do not follow man.

    • @tianagreenfield2480
      @tianagreenfield2480 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      👏🏾👏🏾

    • @danielbaldwin3078
      @danielbaldwin3078 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Friend God has taken His Church out of the arm of the flesh and has gone on. The Church of God is still alive and well, and His Holy Spirit is still moving in His Bride. We welcome you with open arms if you will follow and obey His word rightly divided. There's still HOPE brother, look to God.
      Zachariah 13: 9 KJV " 9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God."

  • @apolocicilia1620
    @apolocicilia1620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    La Gloria de Dios 🙏 Aleluya,, aleluya...

  • @blackroseincsc
    @blackroseincsc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith THE LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die, but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and refined them as silver is refined, and try them as gold is tried: they shall call on MY NAME, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, THE LORD IS my GOD." Zachariah 13:8,9.
    1 Corinthians 3:12-15.
    Isaiah 2:2,3
    Micah 4:1,2
    Mark 3:13,14
    Three Parts :
    1903-1923....1st Part
    1923-1993....2nd Part
    1993-Rapture..3rd Part
    Remember, blasphemy against THE HOLY GHOST "hath never forgiveness", "neither in this world nor the world to come". Be careful all; "swift to hear slow to speak slow to wrath".
    "Blessed be the NAME of GOD for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are HIS: and HE changeth the times and the seasons: HE removeth kings and setteth up kings: HE giveth wisom unto the wise and knowledge to them that knoweth understanding: HE revealeth the deep and secret things: HE knoweth what is in the darkness and The Light dwelleth with HIM." Daniel 2:20-22.
    Amen, amen, amen.
    Everything revealed !
    TCOG, THE BODY of CHRIST is alive.. !

  • @francissibande56
    @francissibande56 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is great very powerful

  • @jonsonbrown
    @jonsonbrown 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m sorry, but you can tell that even most of the people sitting there don’t believe that that loud gibberish isn’t the Holy Ghost.

  • @carmenorbegoso5220
    @carmenorbegoso5220 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Que hermosos tiempo..

  • @michaeledwards1306
    @michaeledwards1306 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now, 28 years later, we can see how men sought position and power in the name of saving theocracy. Again and again men crowned themselves with titles of authority using the justification they are "God called" to save The Church of God. Theocracy is not so fragile that the only way to save it is to split the body, and The Church of God already has a Savior, whose name is Jesus, and does not need yet another General Overseer. They wrap themselves in the legacy of past leaders in an effort to validate their own reach for position. They do not realize they will be judged in comparison to those men whom they leach from. This is a spiritual version of "stolen valor" and those who engage in such practices should not be leaders.

    • @Right.Divider
      @Right.Divider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The original teaching of the Church of God is that they are the exclusive Bride of Christ, while other Christians are in the family of God. In your opinion, is the Church of God of Prophecy today still the exclusive Bride of Christ? If not, when did they lose that title? Did it go to the Concerned group at this time? Who is the Bride of Christ today?

    • @jimmypatterson3998
      @jimmypatterson3998 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Right.Divider that is a good point that you make here.

    • @Right.Divider
      @Right.Divider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jimmypatterson3998 Michael Edwards was my pastor when I was a young child. I wonder if he will respond.

  • @anadiestrasolano7893
    @anadiestrasolano7893 ปีที่แล้ว

    Deberian traducirlo al español por favor

  • @waltercook3197
    @waltercook3197 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AL MIGHTY GOD LORD JESUS HELP MY FAMILY AND ME FORGIVEN FOR OUR SINS IN JESUS POWER AND NAME AMEN

  • @michaeledwards1306
    @michaeledwards1306 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The record and documents show that Bishop M. A. Tomlinson recognized his need to vacate the office due to his inability to fulfill the duties he felt God required of him. Bishop Tomlinson announced, in writing, his plans to vacate the office to the leadership of the church. He called the COGOP Presbytery together to select a new General Overseer, setting the time and place with a desire give his replacement ample time to organize the coming General Assembly. It is clear in public statements and actions that he supported the choice of Bishop Murray, and that support extended to private conversations, including those with his family. There is no documentation that would validate any other conclusion.
    There is no doubt that some of the participants of the Presbytery engaged in insubordinate actions and words. Likewise, some of those who both supported and opposed the selection of the new General Overseer were politically motivated for their own ends. Some of the very leaders who said later they opposed Bishop Tomlinson vacating the office (as the Assembly Minutes allowed), professing that he was General Overseer for life, were some of the same ones who before he retired very vocal about his disabilities.
    Much is blamed on the Holy Spirit, when it is the opinion and aspirations of men that is really being expressed.

    • @Sister_Sandy
      @Sister_Sandy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The selection of a General Overseer has to be through a unanimous agreement. Anything passed through the assembly has to be done unanimously. It wasn't so that means he was selected outside of the church's guidelines or Theocracy.

  • @dispo93
    @dispo93 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Franchement très grand moment et la présence du gouvernement de Dieu était là.
    Merci à Dieu pour ce serviteur. Et enfin des leadership à genoux devant le trône de Dieu. Amen !

  • @shanewatkins5322
    @shanewatkins5322 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Listening to their current general overseer speak is about as painful as going to the dentist and having a root canal. I’ve been in the Church of God of prophecy for 10 years now, and I’m ready to return to my Penecostal roots in the church of God, they have a real overseer, Dr. Tim hill.

  • @ryandawson2877
    @ryandawson2877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What denomination is this? The “original “Church of God? Where is the headquarters?

  • @fiveminuteswithjim861
    @fiveminuteswithjim861 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Out-of-line, in my opinion. So, at this time there were two general overseers. Bishop MA Tomlinson and this bishop whom the people put in office. Bishop MA Tomlinson was forcefully removed from his office as general overseer and lived for another five years.
    Any way, just my opinion.

    • @ilove6296
      @ilove6296 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      According to M.A. Tomlinson he had Alzeimhers a disease of the mind in which he would have not be able to fulfill the role of office. I believe that most of the church had become stiffnecked and they were following Bro. Tomlinson and not God. And God was pushing for the church to move forward and not to be so legalistic and double minded. That year the Lord gave out a message to repent. And you know what the holier than thou church said at that time. "Why do we need to repent?" The church had fallen from theocratic government when they thought they had no sin.

    • @michaeledwards1306
      @michaeledwards1306 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If Bishop Tomlinson was "forcefully removed" from office and still General Overseer, how could "The Church of God, Charleston, TN" place Bishop Pruitt in as General Overseer? Tomlinson was still live then as well. Please be consistent with your take on church history.

    • @michaeledwards1306
      @michaeledwards1306 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And Bishop M. A. Tomlinson did not die until 1995. If you believe he was General Overseer for life, than Bishop Pruitt could not be General Overseer until Bishop Tomlinson died. The same line of thought leads to Bishop Pruitt being General Overseer for life, but he resigned/vacated the office before he died.

    • @thechurchofgodarchives
      @thechurchofgodarchives 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It takes God to make Theocracy work. God puts in whoever he wants to put in office. You should take a look at the Solemn Assembly videos. It is up to the Holy Ghost. He chooses and he removes. The divine process of selecting a General Overseer was not followed in this assembly. The "Interim" Overseer never vacated the office and never placed the office in the hands of the Holy Ghost. Instead men (The Questions and Subjects Committee) decided to install him without confirmation from the Holy Ghost. I have the minutes of the 1990 Assembly. There is a part that says "We reccomend to submit Billy D Murray for your consideration." Something like that. Not to mention a Democratic like system that was used in the 1990 Presbytery Meeting. With a vote of 48 to 33. This Overseer was "Elected" and not Selected and Anointed by the Holy Ghost. He has faced the judgement of God.

    • @chriskinder9438
      @chriskinder9438 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you say that Bro. Murray was,not chosen by the Holy Spirit, then how do you explain the spiritual happenings in the video above? How do you explain the tongues and interpretation of tongues? Are you implying that this is not God? Or are you saying that God contradicts himself? Please explain.

  • @jphil0803
    @jphil0803 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I grew up in the church of god of prophecy. So glad I saw the light and got out. This is a bunch of nonsense.

    • @farrellcox8537
      @farrellcox8537 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I grew up in it too… this is absolute madness. 12:47

  • @ryandawson2877
    @ryandawson2877 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My goodness… A couple of the ladies sound tormented.

  • @waltercook3197
    @waltercook3197 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    OH HOLY ARE THOU ALL MIGHTY GOD

  • @dariovelazquez9501
    @dariovelazquez9501 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy Holy Holy

  • @randygoodin7354
    @randygoodin7354 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It has always been a mystery to me how the Holy Spirt cannot speak with modern English. Does anyone else find this odd?

    • @jeanettehightower943
      @jeanettehightower943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No I don’t find it odd. It’s a heavenly language from the port holes of Glory. I want 😂 call. You dummy. But I won’t !!

  • @francissibande56
    @francissibande56 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is great very powerful