Tips 'N Tricks 166: Installing Heading Sensor GPS for Humminbird ONIX
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- Here is some Tips n Tricks and my new philosophy on installing the GPS-HS with Heading Sensor from Humminbird and why I have changed my recommendation and recommend installation on the Transom of the Boat versus the Bow. This is installing for ONIX Series but can be also done for HELIX and CORE Series Units too.
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Doug, Thanks for this video. I just moved the sensor and it fixed an issue I had when the trolling motor was stowed. Thanks! :)
Great video. I learned some extra things on what to do before install from this. Another thing you can test is trimming up and down and see if it will deflect the compass. Something I have found out after final installation on mine.
+masterlocdown I'm not as concerned with a Trim Motor because it's momentary change in creating Magnetic Interference unless it's all the time. I can tell you one thing that drove me crazy when testing is having a drill or electric screwdriver close to the heading sensor while trying to locate the best location will cause Magnetic Interference...move the drill and boom...it worked as design. :)
Doug Vahrenberg mine would take up to like 20 seconds afterwards to point correctly after trimming while under way. It would be almost out of adjustment range after bumping the trim.
+masterlocdown Is this the Boat ICON or Course Project Line. Two different components on the ONIX. You need to watch the Boat ICON for immediate readings and Course Projection Line is a calculated reading of how the boat is travelling not direction the boat is pointing.
Doug Vahrenberg The heading line on mine will jump after trimming the motor. Course line stays true.
This is all good , but when you start the engine and all cables become alive - that is where interference is coming from. Any electric flow through the conductor creates magnetic field. Also compass deviation can be created just by being close to metal or steel object ( engine). Putting it on the short pole would be a better job ......
I'd test before and after engine is running. Personally I now temporary mount with Velcro or double stick tape before permanent mounting
Good Morning Sr. I could use it as gps ie in a navigation software on my PC ???
Because I have navigation software and I just want to use it as a GPS signal for the letter understand. Type could be used by entering USB into my PC to transmit GPS signal to the navigation software on my PC. Thanks for your feedback and finally get this GPS.
Great tip Doug, Question I have a flats boat with a poling platform can I install on the top of the poling platform center...
Thanks
Yes you could. The Only thing that I would test first is the pitch & roll in waves. The higher you mount the more effect it will have on GP Position location as the platform will move more distance in waves.
Doug would you recommend having two GPS pucks one on the Bow and one on the Transom. Transom GPS for console Mounted finder and any other Finder connected in the rear of the boat..Example I have a multi-species and have console mounted, bow mounted and splashwell mounted birds. The console and the splashwell share data when I have the splashwell unit connected. I troll for Salmon and trout along with stripe bass. When fishing from my cast deck I use only the Bow and console units and have thought of putting GPS puck at the bow for heading control of my minn kota..
I use a external GPS on the transom for my console unit because of the distance. On the Bow I use the Internal Receiver.
Doug Vahrenberg I was told that you cannot share GPS with each other on the Helix G3N. I was told that for precise GPS waypoint marking, i needed to connect a puck with heading sensor to each unit. I was also told that i needed a hub to do so. Basically, i am connecting 2 Helix 12 g3n’s and a Ultrex with built in mega DI. I have an Ethernet hub and have ordered 2 pucks with heading sensors. I don’t know if I’m getting bad info or not. Please help sir! Thanks for Tip’s and Tricks!! Keep it up!
It calculates your heading in real time through that obviously. Also, doesnt it calculate where the nose of the boat is based on the integrated GPS of your I-pilot trolling motor? So what is the point?
+WESTERN HUNTER Standard GPS Receivers only can determine direction by movement when above 1 mph. At slow speed below 1 mph standard GPS receivers cannot 100% accurately tell which direction the boat is moving or pointed. That is where the Heading Sensor with Electric Compass adds more precision and helps GPS determine the exact location and direction the boat is. It's an optional upgrade for those that need more precision when slow speed navigating.
Is it possible to connect the AS-GRP-HS direct to the Helix 12 G2N unit? Or do I have to go thru NMEA 2K to get it connected?
GPS-HS connects direct to the HELIX unit
Doug do you have any heading sensors for 360 transom Mount. I bought unit from a guy in Warsaw but said it was all there but no sensor. I’m going to hook to my helix 12. After reading install guild I’m sure it needs one but guy said he didn’t use one? Can that be true?
I don't have one. It's GPS-HS from Humminbird. You don't have to have it but if you want to view waypoints and create accurate waypoints on 360 it's needed.
Hi Doug. How does the heading sensor sync up to the bow mount 360. Does it automatically sync when it’s networked in? Thanks
So I just purchased a used 1197 and I am confused about the sensor for it and need your help. My sensor looks the same but does not have the arrow on it. However when I place the 1197 on a navigation screen it will tell me the direction I'm going and show a line. So how do I know which way to install the sensor? I looked through the product manual online and it doesn't tell me anything other than how to install it as in through the deck, on top of deck etc.
also do you recommend true north or magnetic north in the settings? I have never had a GPS fish finder before and now I have two (the 1197 and 787).
If it is the original transducer is does not have Heading Sensor so you can install any directions. What is the model printed on your GPS Receiver? If not GPS-HS then you can install any direction.
@@DougVahrenberg perfect timing I'm actually out here working on the boat as we speak. It is GR16/4
Can I use the external GPS sensor from my 998 on my new Helix 10 G3? There is no writing on it or arrow...........
I don’t see the heading sensor in my data sources menu on my Solix. It is paired with my Ultrex. Any ideas?
I'm confused on why you would need this since there is a built in GPS in the humminbird itself?
+WESTERN HUNTER Standard GPS Receivers only can determine direction by movement when above 1 mph. At slow speed below 1 mph standard GPS receivers cannot 100% accurately tell which direction the boat is moving or pointed. That is where the Heading Sensor with Electric Compass adds more precision and helps GPS determine the exact location and direction the boat is. It's an optional upgrade for those that need more precision when slow speed navigating.
Do you have metal flak in the paint on the boat that mite move the Compass ??
Metal Flake from my experiences are non-magnetic.
Doug, does this add any benefit if you have I-Pilot Link. I can see it if it's just strictly Humminbird, but is there a benefit since the I-Pilot Link system also has a compass. (It says in the I-Pilot Link manual that the system itself has a compass).
IT improves the accuracy and heading direction for the Humminbird and where you are in relation to your waypoints as you are viewing on the Graph
So will it make the spot lock on my legacy I-pilot link more accurate, when used with a humminbird?
That is part of the MinnKota iPilot System. You would need the New iPilot System with it's own Heading Sensor for that.
Doug Vahrenberg -What is part of the i pilot system? The graph or the heading sensor?
Doug Vahrenberg -So the graph’s gps doesn’t override the tmotors gps in the spot lock setting? But it does in some settings?
Hi Doug. Is this GPS compatible with my humminbird 1198? Thank you in advance! Best regards!
I'm not 100% sure since I have not tried that. I would call Humminbird 800-633-1468 they will know the answer. There has been some change in product over the years and can't answer that question for sure.
I have a 859 CI HD DI combo on my console and a 859 CI HD combo at the bow. Also the I-pilot link all networked together. I would like to add this puck. What cabling to I need?
Plugs directly into the unit.
On Helix G2N units, does it connect to the COM or NMEA port? Also wanted to thank you for all the great videos, best Humminbird resource around! Thanks!
There is only one port on the HELIX that the receiver will connect too. It's the Long Rectangular looking port.
Doug,
Does anything need to be done with those bare wires that come out of the adapter?
+Brian Moffatt I taped each off to be sure but I think those are output wires if you select NMEA Output.
+Doug Vahrenberg
Thanks!!
Doug can you tell me the purpose of having a heading sensor when your unit already has gps ?
When moving less than 3mph and GPS receiver starts losing the ability to determine direction of travel. A Heading Sensor at slow speed works in conjunction with the GPS Receive to help predict much mroe accurately location and direction of travel. GPS-HS is a dual component unit that has GPS Receiver and Heading Sensor...it;s the ultimate tool for slow speed location
Makes sense thank you for getting back with me and keep up with your great informational videos
Is it possible to subscribe to the heading sensor with helix or core unit?
+chris cigich When you subscribe to the heading sensor on HELIX or CORE you subscribe to both the GPS Location and Magnetic Compass, HELIX and CORE see it as one device not 2 like the ONIX does.
Please explain the difference between the heading sensor and the gps sensor on the onix units. Is there a separate gps sensor installed at the bow for the bow unit so as not to have a 20ft error on the bow gps waypoints if you install the heading compass at the back of the boat?
+Ron Knight The Bow ONIX I am using the Internal GPS ...it's close to the transducer location. With ONIX you can subscribe to Heading Sensor separately from GPS Location Data. I choose the Internal GPS or use AS-GPR is an external that can be mounted to ONIX. But you only need one Heading Sensor for the boat.
The heading sensor will always point the same direction as the boat. If you're drifting sideways, your course won't be the same as your heading.
+Doug Vahrenberg Thanks Doug for the quick reply....about to upgrade to the Onix units from my 1198s.
+Ron Knight For the console unit, do you also use internal gps or does its gps come from the heading sensor?
+Ron Knight For the Console I subscribe to the GPS Location Data and Heading Sensor Data from the GPS-HS. This will reduce adding any offset to sonar data with the GPS Location since the transducer and GPS Location Data are coming from close proximity.
Can the GPS hs be installed on a john boat
Yes...GPS HS Can be installed on any kind of boat.
Hey Doug, can I add this to my gen2 di Helix 7?
I think you can. I would call Humminbird to be 100% for sure 800-633-1468
It calculates your heading in real time through that obviously. Also, doesnt it calculate where the nose of the boat is based on the integrated GPS of your I-pilot trolling motor? So what is the point?
+WESTERN HUNTER Standard GPS Receivers only can determine direction by movement when above 1 mph. At slow speed below 1 mph standard GPS receivers cannot 100% accurately tell which direction the boat is moving or pointed. That is where the Heading Sensor with Electric Compass adds more precision and helps GPS determine the exact location and direction the boat is. It's an optional upgrade for those that need more precision when slow speed navigating.