14:34 - If I remember correctly, the healers have a weird targeting algorithm. I think they target the rightmost unit in the team order (yes, seriously) that's in range when they attack (edit: so just to be clear, they'd attack that tile if that platform unit is to the right of the tank in the team order). Usually not a big deal but it has screwed up some comps that don't have healers on everyone, especially on the old Central Keep map. I actually complained about this to Customer Service back in the day, but I don't think they ever changed it to the "normal" targeting all the other ranged units have (at least prior to the Garnet Guard).
Right side defenses would be easily defeated now with the addition of the new demon soldier. Those golems would make short work of those platform units. 😢
Your "secondary Constance position" is not safe from U. Destroyers. His dmg range is full 8 (ground) tiles around his target, unlike the Book Keeper's cross 4 tiles. It's easy to forget about this there, but Arrogance/Ymiret is not safe in your example.
@@BluntgutsGaming Sorry if I didn't explain it clearly what I meant. : ) 8:00-8:15. You mentioned multiple times before this that the unit placed there is safe from the 2 AoE demons. It's only safe vs Book Keeper.
No worries, I went back and looked and figured that was the time you meant. Yeah that's my mistake - good catch man. At least it removes the book keeper threat, but definitely not safe. I did see a Thallen one spot to the left of that in a defense which was surprisingly effective
@@BluntgutsGaming I'm pretty sure that Thallen defense belongs to your teammate. : ) I wanted to mention, even though it was a bit of mismatch... it was a pleasure to play against your guild! 🐼 o7
Yeah man nice to see some new heroes having success, and GG! It was a good match, I only got 3 wins off of you guys. Definitely a fun matchup, looking forward to the rematch at some point!!
The issue is I think you have to kill the aoe invasion quickly not single target. Arrogance for me is not good volka is way better for this hatsut and ajax with lilly
@@BluntgutsGaming Have you tested if its possible to build a cc platform unit like Marri or Greed tanky enough to withstand the GG's? Ive seen the guards in action but not sure how much damage they can do ... my greed is tanky enough to easily shrug off the rare archers and mages but thats only a couple glancing blows
@@bukktoof Not yet, but my guildmates have reported that ~30k HP minimum is needed. I believe that once they path into a ground unit they stop hitting platforms as well, so they just need to survive however long it takes to hit a tank/fighter. I'll hopefully have some testing of the GGs out this week and this is definitely something I'm going to look into
The alternate Constance spot I describe at 8:00 is safe from Book Keepers, but NOT safe from Uncommon Destroyers. Good catch by @ba_nshee2027 ❤
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Thanks man!! Appreciate you tuning in ❤
Very nice explanations btw!! Shows good spots and what type of champ needed to fill the roll without holding your hand. A+
Thanks man! I hope it was helpful!!
Claw behind boreas spot facing right iss also effective, combined with pellogios is funny
Interesting! I'd love to see Claw become relevant!!
14:34 - If I remember correctly, the healers have a weird targeting algorithm. I think they target the rightmost unit in the team order (yes, seriously) that's in range when they attack (edit: so just to be clear, they'd attack that tile if that platform unit is to the right of the tank in the team order). Usually not a big deal but it has screwed up some comps that don't have healers on everyone, especially on the old Central Keep map.
I actually complained about this to Customer Service back in the day, but I don't think they ever changed it to the "normal" targeting all the other ranged units have (at least prior to the Garnet Guard).
Awesome info, thanks for sharing Holo!!
Is that a NOFX shirt my boy is wearin? Favorite things all coming together :p
Punk in Drublic hahaha, had this shirt for 25 years 🤣
This map is so rough without certain heroes 😅 nice war against yall was fun 🥃
Yessir! I don't love it so far but maybe it'll grow on me. GG, you guys were a rough first matchup 🤣🤣
Right side defenses would be easily defeated now with the addition of the new demon soldier. Those golems would make short work of those platform units. 😢
@@Ultra007YT Yeah everything is going to get shaken up as soon as most people have him
Your "secondary Constance position" is not safe from U. Destroyers. His dmg range is full 8 (ground) tiles around his target, unlike the Book Keeper's cross 4 tiles. It's easy to forget about this there, but Arrogance/Ymiret is not safe in your example.
I'm not sure which spot you're referring to, but you're 100% correct! If I said otherwise I misspoke
@@BluntgutsGaming Sorry if I didn't explain it clearly what I meant. : ) 8:00-8:15. You mentioned multiple times before this that the unit placed there is safe from the 2 AoE demons. It's only safe vs Book Keeper.
No worries, I went back and looked and figured that was the time you meant. Yeah that's my mistake - good catch man. At least it removes the book keeper threat, but definitely not safe. I did see a Thallen one spot to the left of that in a defense which was surprisingly effective
@@BluntgutsGaming
I'm pretty sure that Thallen defense belongs to your teammate. : )
I wanted to mention, even though it was a bit of mismatch... it was a pleasure to play against your guild! 🐼 o7
Yeah man nice to see some new heroes having success, and GG! It was a good match, I only got 3 wins off of you guys. Definitely a fun matchup, looking forward to the rematch at some point!!
tough map
@@GohaPao yeah man, I haven't loved it through the first two matches 🤣
you wrote "shit" wrong best friend Goha
Nightmare team for me is still the best for me with Ajax and A5 Volka.. I got 11 wins 0 losses
@@danielellul7631 yeah as long as you can keep Volka up its strong no doubt
The issue is I think you have to kill the aoe invasion quickly not single target. Arrogance for me is not good volka is way better for this hatsut and ajax with lilly
I'll check it out!! I'd love to see Volka shine somewhere
I got zero fragments so far but a couple people in my guild got enough.
Yeah same here, easy attacks for them this week!
@@BluntgutsGaming Have you tested if its possible to build a cc platform unit like Marri or Greed tanky enough to withstand the GG's? Ive seen the guards in action but not sure how much damage they can do ... my greed is tanky enough to easily shrug off the rare archers and mages but thats only a couple glancing blows
@@bukktoof Not yet, but my guildmates have reported that ~30k HP minimum is needed. I believe that once they path into a ground unit they stop hitting platforms as well, so they just need to survive however long it takes to hit a tank/fighter. I'll hopefully have some testing of the GGs out this week and this is definitely something I'm going to look into
Or u can be me and own a A3 vald meat grinder, sorry blunt
Lol no kidding man 🤣🤣 Vald is kind of the perfect option as a tanky fighter in left side comps. Drove me crazy last week haha
That t2 just weave in between Boreas peliagos ,ult/ skill
Tank into double spiders +scalekin should rush that easily no? 16:07
With those heroes yeah but I was just using them as an example for placements, not as a cohesive defense.
@@BluntgutsGaming ohhhh I Gotchya!
this did not help one bit
Sorry to hear that, not for everyone I suppose. I appreciate you tuning in nonetheless