TRAINWRECKORDS: "Two the Hard Way" by Cher and Gregg Allman

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  • Doomed couple Cher and Gregg Allman made a doomed collaboration album, a teamup that went about as well as mixing toothpaste and orange juice. (Support Todd on Patreon! / toddintheshadows )
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  • @KramerKontained94
    @KramerKontained94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3133

    This album didn't kill any careers after their divorce because Cher believes in life after love

    • @FernieCanto
      @FernieCanto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +226

      I really don't think this album is strong enough, no.

    • @phastinemoon
      @phastinemoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      This thread gives me life

    • @_Only_Zuul
      @_Only_Zuul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      dO YoOu BeELiIeVe iiN LiiFe AfTeRr LoOVe??

    • @thwiftlythwept7023
      @thwiftlythwept7023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Der yer belEEEbe in herr after durr?

    • @josephtelegen8754
      @josephtelegen8754 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Best comment ever.

  • @CameronMetrejean
    @CameronMetrejean 2 ปีที่แล้ว +493

    Hate to say it but Cher and Greg Allman sound like one of those “….but the sex is great” couples.

    • @calmbbaer
      @calmbbaer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      Judging from the album cover, it's only great if there are no mirrors in the room.

    • @Falxifer95
      @Falxifer95 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      12:19 this pretty much confirms it.

    • @whatr0
      @whatr0 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      not to mention covering "You Really Gotta Hold On Me" really makes it obvious lol

  • @snoopsq.527
    @snoopsq.527 ปีที่แล้ว +454

    Honestly, being a “boring” couple to me seems like the best thing you can hope for when your a celebrity that’s dating another celebrity. The public doesn’t care, so to a certain extent your personal business gets to stay fucking personal.

    • @TheTundraTerror
      @TheTundraTerror หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      See, the problem with that is simple: Cher can't turn it off for more than 19 minutes.

  • @TetsuDeinonychus
    @TetsuDeinonychus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1753

    ...when Cher has better chemistry with Beavis and Butthead than with her one-time husband...

    • @Chattosaurus
      @Chattosaurus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I think Butt-head was finally going to get some, but the I'm guessing Beavis totally cock-blocked him.

    • @53subscribersnovideos35
      @53subscribersnovideos35 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@Chattosaurus Well, it was only VR Cher, anyway.

    • @patchchrist
      @patchchrist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      When that clip came up, I said the exact same thing to myself.

    • @Demiglitch
      @Demiglitch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Beavis and Butthead are just conscientious lovers is all.

    • @ajpoopfucker
      @ajpoopfucker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Demiglitch nice cerati pfp

  • @widnawz
    @widnawz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1359

    “It’s better than having a kid to try and save the marriage” thing is they did try that, and said kid went on to front a goth industrial band called Deadsy

    • @OsKarMike1306
      @OsKarMike1306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      oh

    • @Redrally
      @Redrally 4 ปีที่แล้ว +230

      You just know that makes perfect sense

    • @kibrika
      @kibrika 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      They had a "Family Values Tour"... ouch :D

    • @scottygilmer691
      @scottygilmer691 4 ปีที่แล้ว +163

      Deadsy was a pretty decent band, very creative, but I think they got lumped in with the nu- metal crew. They were on Family Values Tour after all. The singer, Elijah Blue Allman, actually covered Crimson and Clover with Cher.

    • @NJGuy1973
      @NJGuy1973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      @@scottygilmer691 And in the "If I Could Turn Back Time" video, 14-year-old Elijah is playing guitar.

  • @TheDukeofMadness
    @TheDukeofMadness 2 ปีที่แล้ว +405

    Alice Cooper tells a story of going out to dinner with Cher and Gregg Allman not long after they got married. They were chatting when Gregg faceplanted unconscious into his meal. Cher grabbed the back of his head, pulled him up and said "Isn't he great!"

    • @patoren3gou653
      @patoren3gou653 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      Alice Cooper seems so based

    • @gregdeandrea1450
      @gregdeandrea1450 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      Alice Cooper, Gregg Allman and Cher all at the same table... I think if Barry White had shown up the four pillars of seventies music would have been complete and it would have formed the Orb of Time.

    • @durandal_273
      @durandal_273 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ok but that's really funny

    • @zombiedodge1426
      @zombiedodge1426 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@patoren3gou653 He once said that maybe 10% of what you hear about him is true, whereas everything you've ever heard about Keith Moon is true and you've only heard 10% of it.

  • @ashleyneku5432
    @ashleyneku5432 4 ปีที่แล้ว +745

    Lesson learned: What works in the shower DOES NOT work in a sound stage.

    • @NEEDbacon
      @NEEDbacon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Doesn't help that putting a brain cell or two forward that the songs opening lyrics are "I DON'T LIKE YOU, I DON'T WANT YOU" comes off poorly like Todd pointed out.

    • @mccperin
      @mccperin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who would've guessed?

    • @gregorymelissinos337
      @gregorymelissinos337 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@NEEDbacon I heard that as I don't like you, but I love you

    • @nikitaknyazkov2179
      @nikitaknyazkov2179 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @shawnfields2369
      @shawnfields2369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@mccperin Not me; that's for sure. Damn... guess my all shower covers were for nothing after all, dude. Now who's gonna release all these shower cover albums?!?

  • @piratapequeno
    @piratapequeno 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2812

    My mom is a huge Cher fan and both my parents are both huge Allman Bros. fans. I've never heard them mentioned that they were married or this album happened. I think that says a lot.

    • @JennaLeigh
      @JennaLeigh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +223

      My dad is a MASSIVE fan of the Allman Brothers and actually loves Cher- though I think it's a respect more for her longevity and fortitude. Either way, we talk music all the time and he has NEVER mentioned this connection between the 2.

    • @tafua_a
      @tafua_a 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      You know a couple isn't good when people who like the music and Cher and the music of Greg Allman don't like Cher and Allman.

    • @MF-fd2ug
      @MF-fd2ug 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      I asked my mum about it. She told me, she bought the record, listened to it once and literally never again.

    • @johnrife7134
      @johnrife7134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      THEY PRODUCED A CHILD TOGETHER!

    • @TexMexGenX
      @TexMexGenX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you are right.

  • @twilightjoltik3151
    @twilightjoltik3151 ปีที่แล้ว +319

    The part about there being no fascination with Olivia Wilde and Jason Sudeikis and them seeming perfectly happy had aged… interestingly

    • @MrGared22
      @MrGared22 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      Yeah... looks like Toddstradamus isn't limited to music anymore.

    • @emmettyoung7603
      @emmettyoung7603 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      gonna ask todd to predict my failure so i don’t ever fail

  • @LindsayEllisVids
    @LindsayEllisVids 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3470

    oh man "when loving lovers love" is such a deep cut

    • @bespectacledheroine7292
      @bespectacledheroine7292 4 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      I never could conceptualize the exact equivalent song to it, just an array of similar ones. Until today. Move Me is clearly what they were going for whether they knew it or not.

    • @JarrodBaniqued
      @JarrodBaniqued 4 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      Really sells it, at least compared to Malcolm McLaren’s “Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Gals”

    • @dimentiorules
      @dimentiorules 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Are you still dating him? Not that that's any of my business, just wondering.

    • @BATCHARRO
      @BATCHARRO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      No. She's married and everything.

    • @heliophoner
      @heliophoner 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      It could be the greatest love story ever written.....for the internet

  • @SEAZNDragon
    @SEAZNDragon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3546

    Wow Todd finally got a sponsor. Either he’s really hitting it big or he’s doesn’t want to sell another round of one hit wonder requests.

    • @periflores1002
      @periflores1002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +303

      My theory is that the pandemic made all his Patrons too poor to give him anything :/

    • @moritzzz1
      @moritzzz1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      Those keyboards are not gonna eat themselves

    • @bonecanoe86
      @bonecanoe86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +246

      It was probably do sponsor reads or finally cover You're Beautiful.

    • @dimentiorules
      @dimentiorules 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Insert Road to El Dorado "Both" gif here.

    • @cityboy2092
      @cityboy2092 4 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      I just know that there are hoards of people requesting One Hit Wonderlands for bands and artists that weren't one-hit wonders to begin with like Smash Mouth and C+C Music Factory

  • @B.Arthur
    @B.Arthur ปีที่แล้ว +187

    Cher was really just getting started here. It’s wild to think that her WHOLE film career came after this, including an Oscar. You can never count her out.

    • @dieterdelange9488
      @dieterdelange9488 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      And her albums after this also did well.

  • @icysnow9459
    @icysnow9459 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1255

    Greg has more courage than most people on this show. He actually speaks more than one sentence about the album.

    • @edwardphilibin3151
      @edwardphilibin3151 4 ปีที่แล้ว +266

      I think it's safe to say by that point Gregg had long since distributed his lifetime supply of giveable fucks.

    • @thejorgieverse15
      @thejorgieverse15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      🤣

    • @littlekingtrashmouth9219
      @littlekingtrashmouth9219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Like the Family Guy skit - “Greg Allman, what did you do when life got you down?”
      “Me? I took a lot of drugs, married some broad named Cher. I won’t recommend either of them.”

  • @TJTheEmperor
    @TJTheEmperor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +916

    “We’re Gonna Make It” sounds like the theme song of a sitcom from 1978 that was cancelled midway through its first season.

    • @NJGuy1973
      @NJGuy1973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      You mean like an 1979 ABC sitcom starring David Naughton?

    • @chicagoakland
      @chicagoakland 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@NJGuy1973 No no, that one had it's own awful theme song that I'd much like to forget.

    • @ACETYGRA
      @ACETYGRA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You win TH-cam today!

    • @DBEO23
      @DBEO23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Aw, Why is that so true and why do I feel like Norman Lear said fuck no to trying to save the show?

    • @Ingestedbanjo
      @Ingestedbanjo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Might have to eat BEES every day

  • @TheTygre
    @TheTygre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +466

    There are two things that keep me coming back to this video:
    1. The phrase “enough junk coursing through him to kill a sperm whale”.
    2. Cher’s wild outfits. You can say whatever you want about her singing on this album, but nobody had style like Cher.

    • @ratedr7845
      @ratedr7845 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      lady gaga

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      She was so attractive.

    • @elizabethm8982
      @elizabethm8982 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Yeah, she was very attractive and had the presence (and body) to wear the hell outta those outfits

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      1. I always end up binging Todd's whole catalogue when he releases something new. I can freely quote from so many of these videos & yet I find something new, some genius edit or turn of phrase, every time.
      2. omg so --- I used to work in a high end toy store. Lots of collectibles. We had clients we brought in the luxe Barbies for, some were hundreds of dollars. "Cher Barbie" wearing exclusive Bob Mackie designs were among the expensive Barbies we carried. If you want to see Cher in doll form in crazy outfits, look up the images from the Cher Barbies collection.

  • @andysee6996
    @andysee6996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1475

    I did it! I finally got a playlist together for Trainwreckord Survivors! These are the songs Todd liked from his Trainwreckord episodes.
    1. 2 Find U - Jewel (0304)
    2. Heavy Metal Poisoning - Styx (Kilroy was Here)
    3. Pumps and a Bump - MC Hammer (The Funky Headhunter)
    4. My Big Mouth - Oasis (Be Here Now)
    5. Fire in the Hole - Van Halen (Van Halen III)
    6. Someday Never Comes - Creedence Clearwater Revival (Mardi Gras)
    7. Shock to the System - Billy Idol (Cyberpunk)
    8. The Opposite of Me - Robin Thicke (Paula)
    9. This is England - The Clash (Cut the Crap)
    10. Hot Fun in the Summertime - The Beach Boys (Summer in Paradise)
    11. Ease My Mind - Arrested Development (Zingalamaduni)
    12. Do what You gotta Do - Allman and Woman (Two the Hard Way)
    Do you think I did a good job picking out this playlist?

    • @ghostofabulletproducciones5748
      @ghostofabulletproducciones5748 4 ปีที่แล้ว +224

      I would replace "The Opposite of Me" with that song about New York, but it's a great playlist!

    • @Cthulu1985
      @Cthulu1985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +231

      Excellent playlist you got there, and very accurate to boot. However, I can't help but observe that you found NOTHING salvageable in Lauryn Hill's Unplugged 2.0. Nothing wrong with that, mind you. I found nothing there either.

    • @TheAndradeCS
      @TheAndradeCS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      He didn't liked anything from Van Halen III. He didn't even played a song from that in the Outro. That album sucks 100%.

    • @MrMike855
      @MrMike855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      @@TheAndradeCS Not true, he did say "Fire in the Hole" was the best song on the album, but it was the equivalent to a "second tier Sammy song or a fourth tier David Lee Roth song". But I don't think he liked anything from Summer in Paradise, he even said the Beach Boys version of Hot Fun in the Summertime wasn't that good, but comparing it to the rest of the album... yeah.

    • @Cthulu1985
      @Cthulu1985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @Blackberry! You mean "Fairweather Johnson"? That's already been done.

  • @TheUnspokenKibbles
    @TheUnspokenKibbles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1839

    The factoid about how Cher has nine of the biggest flops of all time implies that she _came back_ from at least eight of those. Move over Achilles, Superman, and all others who play at being indestructible. This woman is on another level.

    • @teddyhaines6613
      @teddyhaines6613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +158

      So the conclusion here is that if she'd sung about how she rises from the dead all the time, it would actually check out.

    • @baxterbrown8088
      @baxterbrown8088 4 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      Two of them were Sonny and Cher, one of which was a career ender for them. Additionally, one of the seven Cher solo albums was a followup to another entry that had been lower on the list.
      However that still means she came back from SIX of those

    • @Snarl616
      @Snarl616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      If you got money or contracts or sponsors to keep you in game, who cares about albums quality? Cher to me is like Maroon5 for Todd: always there for inertia, never convincing, never infuriating.

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 4 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      @@Snarl616 Interesting point but I'd take Gypsys, Tramps & Thieves over anything Maroon5 has ever done.

    • @AnaMaria-wt3ix
      @AnaMaria-wt3ix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      @@Snarl616 maybe. But Maroon 5 aren't icons to anyone. Cher is though

  • @jmann6130
    @jmann6130 4 ปีที่แล้ว +444

    Cher and Gregg actually had a lot of parallels to A Star is Born Gregg is the struggling addict rocker and Cher is the vibrant Starlet who thinks she can save him and both ultimately cant

    • @braydenfitzsimmons6824
      @braydenfitzsimmons6824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      This is funny because the Streisand/Kristofferson version of A Star Is Born was originally supposed to star Cher and Warren Beatty.

    • @DBEO23
      @DBEO23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Except Gaga and Bradley are both great singers, attractive, got great chemistry and charismatic while Cher is left with all of that and Gregg has none. Tho, that’s just for the newer one at least

    • @ECKohns
      @ECKohns 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DBEO23Watch the older version with Judy Garland and James Mason.

    • @christopherhidalgo6696
      @christopherhidalgo6696 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DBEO23Gregg Allman is a better singer than everyone you mentioned 😂 looks that can is just preference

  • @SarahElisabethJoyal
    @SarahElisabethJoyal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +459

    "Gregg Allman and Cher" sounds like one of those improbable duet pairs they make up on new Whose Line episodes.

    • @HSMiyamoto
      @HSMiyamoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      "Ryan and Colin, you are Ray Charles and Pia Zadora."

    • @shawnfields2369
      @shawnfields2369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HSMiyamoto You mean; they're real? And that they're still making new Whose Line episodes?

    • @SarahElisabethJoyal
      @SarahElisabethJoyal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@shawnfields2369 There have definitely been new episodes this year. A batch aired back at the start of quarantine and Jonathan Mangum hosted livestreams to celebrate. I believe there's been more since then but I'm uncertain of the details.
      As for the unlikely duets, it's the new gimmick for 'Greatest Hits'. Memorable pairs include "Neil Diamond and Kanye West" and "Lil Wayne and Pavarotti".

    • @shawnfields2369
      @shawnfields2369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SarahElisabethJoyal Wow, that's great to hear. Glad there's new episodes of "Whose Line". Great show. I wasn't that interested in the show as a kid, I thought it wasn't that funny, until I saw a few episodes, and I liked how funny it was. I'd definitely like to see how unlikely the pairs get. I'm sure Lil Wayne had collaborated with literally everyone. He was doing collabs with both Conan o'Brien, and Tony Hawk himself, all to promote Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5, a terrible game. I think hearing "Lil Wayne and Pavarotti" sounds hilarious. And "Neil Diamond and Kanye West" sounds hilarious too. What's next, "Eminem and Cher"? Or maybe... "Eminem and David Hasselhoff"? Or even, "Eminem and the Beach Boys"? Sorry, Eminem's my favorite rapper. Thanks for the extra info, ma'am.

  • @chuckbatman5
    @chuckbatman5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    These clips of Cher and Gregg Allman together feel like watching two aliens from different planets struggling to communicate while also both pretending to be humans. There's truly something otherworldly about how awkward they are

    • @foxandbarrettshow6916
      @foxandbarrettshow6916 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Damn I laughed entirely too hard at that had to suppress the manly boyish titter of giggles long enough to write this reply

  • @JoshuaFagan
    @JoshuaFagan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2728

    I still can't believe they were called "Allman and Woman." That's an all-time terrible band name.

    • @BenCol
      @BenCol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +286

      Sounds more like a sitcom than a band.
      And not even a particularly good sitcom either.

    • @theloverlyladylo9158
      @theloverlyladylo9158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +124

      BenCol it would be about a man who had the experiences of all men combined into one living with Eve from the Bible in a 2-room apartment in Milwaukee.

    • @the-NightStar
      @the-NightStar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      The more you think about it, the most stunningly misogynistic it becomes. "I'm ALL man... and her? She's just the Woo man. I'm the awesome one here, she's here to be that lady and bring the lady things to it."

    • @ModdedMischief
      @ModdedMischief 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      ᵗʰᵉNight★Star I mean it’s just a pun, but I guess it could mean that too...

    • @andrewgwilliam4831
      @andrewgwilliam4831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Over the years most of us have probably heard some random or quirky phrase and said "that'll be my band name". Until today it had never occurred to me that there would be a counterpart of a phrase that nobody in their right mind would use as a band name. I guess every yin must have its yang, though...

  • @AnomalyArcadie
    @AnomalyArcadie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +543

    Yeeeaaars ago, while I was in my mid teens, I met their son after a Deadsy show. He's actually an incredibly kind dude and even offered to hang out with my friend and I so we weren't alone while we were waiting for my mom to pick us up. Good dude.

    • @dizzle1119
      @dizzle1119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The "Key To Gramercy Park" guys?
      Forgot about them....

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sounds nice, did the son ever bring up this record?

    • @upstating
      @upstating 4 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      Hey, me too! Weird story about that... after the show there was radio station party where we met then, and he went back with us to my friend's apartment to see some of her reptiles and have coffee and chat. Later, I stood with him outside while he waited to be picked up and he asked how long my friend and I had been dating. I explained we'd known each other for years and she was a lesbian, and he replied "Really? That's good then," almost like he was a touch skeptical but didn't care either way. I told her about it when I went back up and we had a chuckle.
      18 years later, she and I have been married for 16 years, and together for almost 17. It seemed inconceivable at the time, but I sometimes wonder if that innocent aside planted the seed.

    • @Yemmi
      @Yemmi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@upstating Wow, that is really cool. I did not expect the ending of that story at all.

    • @DOSRetroGamer
      @DOSRetroGamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm, I'd hang out with attractive young females too if given the opportunity 🤔

  • @johnrife7134
    @johnrife7134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    That look on Greg's face he had when she introduced him was the definition of forced smile.

    • @annamaria9073
      @annamaria9073 ปีที่แล้ว

      He looks like a baby that still tries to figure out how to smile. While also having a shit that is just slightly too hard to be comfortable.

  • @MegCazalet
    @MegCazalet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +376

    I’ve seen Cher in person from across a Borders bookstore. She was doing a book signing or album signing or something, probably for Believe. The line was unbelievable. So my best friend and younger brother and I went over to the children’s section and stood on chairs to get a view of her from afar. She. Was. Radiant. A goddess. She glowed from across the room, sitting on a throne on a dais, floating above everyone like the queen she is. It was an entrancing experience for teenage me.

    • @meumnomen
      @meumnomen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      That's exactly how I'd picture her, too

    • @HiGlowie
      @HiGlowie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      lol calm down. She’s a human like everyone else. Is she beautiful? Without a doubt. Goddess? Eh..

    • @MegCazalet
      @MegCazalet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@HiGlowie “Calm down”? Why would you just casually shit all over someone’s subjective opinion describing a special memory from their youth about seeing a cultural icon in person? You wanna go ahead and tell me my husband’s not handsome while you’re at it? Just such a stupid approach to comments, I don’t get why people act like that.

    • @perfectallycromulent
      @perfectallycromulent ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@MegCazalet because that's a frightening view to have of a person. she's not a glowing goddess, and that makes you sound deluded. it's the sort of thing people say about Donald Trump, and it's scary to people who aren't in the cult. your husband may be very handsome, but he's not a god either. that's the problem people have with what you said, likening a celebrity to god.

    • @MegCazalet
      @MegCazalet ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@perfectallycromulent Do any of you know that “goddess” can just mean she looked powerful, confident, and beautiful? I’m not saying she’s literally a DEITY to be worshipped. You sound deluded to react that way over a word like that. To my young teen eyes it was a very memorable moment. FFS.

  • @PunkExMachina
    @PunkExMachina 4 ปีที่แล้ว +598

    Cher’s voice is very distinct and I can see why someone wouldn’t be into it...but I seriously wouldn’t call her a bad singer.

    • @koelael2660
      @koelael2660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Her voice is weird to me, it just sounds forced.

    • @anarchohannibalism
      @anarchohannibalism 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      i think it's because she's more of a belter. people tend to prefer female vocalists who sing with their head voices, rather than their chest voices.

    • @lucasoheyze4597
      @lucasoheyze4597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Whenever she sang backing vocals in Phil Spector sessions he would get her to stand well back from the mic because her voice was so forceful

    • @hannemanart
      @hannemanart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Stars album is PROOF that she has singing chops!

    • @MrSkerpentine
      @MrSkerpentine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Just don’t put super early and poorly wrangled autotune over it

  • @kittyess
    @kittyess 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1390

    This sounds like what would happen if grimes and elon musk made an album together

    • @samdragonborn5864
      @samdragonborn5864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      Don’t give them ideas

    • @sbel6626
      @sbel6626 4 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      Always watching it will be called QVANTVM ENt4ng⛓ement and will be entirely about the plot of Neuromancer where two AIs fuse together. It will be as pretentious as possible and they will claim it came from their own genius when in fact it came from her taking peyote and him throwing money at whatever will make people talk about him

    • @SomeDumbKid1
      @SomeDumbKid1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Mother of god that would actually be the worst album ever

    • @patrickracer43
      @patrickracer43 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      That's gonna be the chimes in the Cybertruck

    • @chaddevlin8545
      @chaddevlin8545 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Thank christ they just made a baby instead.

  • @wendynerd1199
    @wendynerd1199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +507

    "This record is the equivalent of having a baby to save the marriage. It's not going to save the marriage and it fucks up the baby."
    ...They did that too.
    Gregg was literally going to leave Cher, but then she got pregnant with their son, Elijah. On one hand, Elijah did grow up to lead the band Deadsy, which is pretty cool and he is apparently a pretty nice person. On the other, he had severe abandonment issues that ultimately led to heroin addiction. So....

    • @godslittlecrayola
      @godslittlecrayola ปีที่แล้ว +35

      And when he said that, i was glad they didn't have one or else that wouldn't have been pretty. Poor Elijah

    • @TacticusPrime
      @TacticusPrime ปีที่แล้ว +26

      P. Exeter Blue is Cher and Greg Allman's kid? Holy crap.

    • @jojoversus1100
      @jojoversus1100 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not nearly as screwed up as Chaz lmao

    • @smogity
      @smogity ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Like father like son.

    • @jeromelove9529
      @jeromelove9529 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Deadsy is actually one of my favorite bands

  • @JasSpy
    @JasSpy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    Cher's career is still after 50 years legitimately alive and something people care about, and Scooby-Doo is doing celebrity crossovers again with Guess Who?. And in fact Cher is the only non-fictional, still alive celebrity from the original Scooby-Doo crossovers that still has a high profile career. I mean, the Today Show ain't asking Dick van Dyke how he's surviving the 'Rona, but they definitely asked Cher. She should totally crossover with Scooby again, that'd be so cool! I mean, if she’s willing to sing with Beavis and Butt-Head, she should be down for Scooby again.

    • @Demiglitch
      @Demiglitch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      They're just asking Dick Van Dyke in general if he's alive.

    • @byakuyatogami2905
      @byakuyatogami2905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263 as a lesbian who cries hearing the original version of "I will always love you" Can confirm

    • @kingofthegundam7974
      @kingofthegundam7974 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, you got your wish. Cher was in Season 2 of Guess Who?

  • @yhnbgtrfv100
    @yhnbgtrfv100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +283

    This album is like putting gravy on skittles.

    • @amazingandrew4328
      @amazingandrew4328 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They put FALLING DAMAGE in my motherfuckin’ 2-D platform game!?

    • @brendanb2982
      @brendanb2982 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's like the SNL sketch for Crystal Gravy.

    • @daelen.cclark
      @daelen.cclark 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@brendanb2982
      Crystal Gravy… That sounds like a 60’s or 70’s band!

  • @rossothelioma
    @rossothelioma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    they kinda make me think of those romcoms where the mediocre guy falls in love with a manic pixie dream girl

    • @kazihiree1843
      @kazihiree1843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It’s like a Spanish novela then

    • @michaelkeller5927
      @michaelkeller5927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      She's so ugly though. If that's someone's dream girl, they must have grown up in a burn victims unit

    • @Gabe413
      @Gabe413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@michaelkeller5927 man stfu cher is beautiful

    • @emailing
      @emailing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Manic Pixie Dream Cher is my dream gender

    • @squeallymaniac
      @squeallymaniac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@michaelkeller5927 tasteless.

  • @jimhjortsberg2990
    @jimhjortsberg2990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +351

    Cheer on their relationship and record: "Well we had a good time while it lasted, but in the end it just wasn't meant to be."
    Gregg on their relationship and record: "Boy was that an embarrassing phase of my life, glad it's over!"

    • @HiGlowie
      @HiGlowie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Cher seems to have more tact, but I like Greg better. Cher always seemed so manufactured and phony.

    • @louisduarte8763
      @louisduarte8763 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      How weird is it I know they were a couple from A Family Guy joke? Peter asks his Allman Brothers poster "Gregg, what did you do when life got you down?" And Greg pops out of it and answers, "Me? I did a lot of drugs, married a chick named Cher, and I don't recommend either one."

    • @Demiglitch
      @Demiglitch ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@HiGlowie She's definitely "manufactured", but I never saw her as being phony outside of her aesthetic and music. She seems like the physical embodiment of a pop star to me.

  • @EvilSandwich
    @EvilSandwich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    As much as it is fun to rag on a really shity album, both Gregg Allman and Cher had been through some fucking shit in their lives. For all of their faults, it's nice to see that they both separately ultimately had something resembling a happy ending and rekindled their individual successes in later years.
    With Gregg Allman's final incarnation of the Allman Brothers being pretty damn decent and well-received by fans before he tragically passed away in 2017 and Cher being the Mega rich and successful goddamn force of nature that she is today.
    I'm happy for both of them, but God damn they were terrible on this album.

  • @rasmusdegn9690
    @rasmusdegn9690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +939

    Congratulations on being one step closer to a RAID: Shadow Legends sponsorship.

    • @OliverHeikkinen
      @OliverHeikkinen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Todd in the shadow legends

    • @YayapLives
      @YayapLives 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Don't joke about that man.
      _they can hear you._

    • @53subscribersnovideos35
      @53subscribersnovideos35 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm sure all million people who advertise that game actually play it.

    • @EpicB
      @EpicB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      But Todd's already a shadow legend.

    • @Ene-Chan
      @Ene-Chan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      TODD SHADOW LEGENDS

  • @insertusernamehere51
    @insertusernamehere51 4 ปีที่แล้ว +785

    You bringing up Elvis made me realize how much I want you to cover Elvis' career slump in the 60s. Maybe, it's not quite Trainwreckords material, but maybe a Cinemadonna style marathon of his movies?

    • @sagecolvard9644
      @sagecolvard9644 4 ปีที่แล้ว +152

      YES! I WANT CINEMELVIS!

    • @TheAndradeCS
      @TheAndradeCS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Elvis got brought back in the end of the 60's tho, didn't he? That's where his best career material came even, From Elvis in Memphis
      and all.

    • @insertusernamehere51
      @insertusernamehere51 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      That's why I mean it's not really trainwreckords material. But it still an interesting period with plenty of opportunity to make fun of

    • @TheAlexSchmidt
      @TheAlexSchmidt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I think he might not want to do the Elvis movies, given that others have suggested he cover them, but it could be a good idea. I also heard that there was a bootleg record called "Elvis's Greatest Sh*t" of his worst performances.

    • @grahamkristensen9301
      @grahamkristensen9301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      That's a good idea on paper, but would be terrible in execution. Elvis's movies of course are turds across the board, but they're also really repetitive and tend to blend into each other. At least with Madonna's filmography, there's a variety of things to talk about. Todd would probably give up before he gets to "Elvis Beach Movie #8."

  • @raaid22
    @raaid22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +473

    Cher isn't a bad singer but her tone isn't for everyone. Her voice is so distinct she needs big or voices with a lot of personality to keep up. I don't know Greg's voice that well, but she over powers his voice when they sing together. His voice seems to be too soft and light to even be heard when they sing.

    • @DBEO23
      @DBEO23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Yeah. But I think that’s why some people like her voice. She’s not like Linda Ronstadt or Tina Turner and has the big range to go for multiple genres. She’s not everyone’s singer, just a singer who kind of sounds real I guess you can say

    • @raaid22
      @raaid22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@DBEO23 I like her voice. It's a bit a masculine and deep. It's not what's expected in pop music. Plus she has her harsh vibrato. All those things come together to make her iconic. Not an exact comparison, but Ethel merman, Pattie lupone, and Bernadette petters are all iconic, but have extremely unique voices. The more unique the voice, the more people will be polarized on it.

    • @Syfoll
      @Syfoll 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@raaid22 Same. I like her voice quite a lot, just not most the singing. I find her exaggerating or trying too much most of the time. But she has a very interesting timbre, that's for sure.

    • @SonofMrPeanut
      @SonofMrPeanut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It might be fair to call her the Mainstream Nico, in that respect.

    • @Syfoll
      @Syfoll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SonofMrPeanut Weird comparison, I kinda see it, but I also don't. Honestly, I find Nico better than Cher in almost any category voice-wise, not counting songwriting/career.

  • @PrinzPassionsfrucht
    @PrinzPassionsfrucht 4 ปีที่แล้ว +389

    This has Lisa Simpson/Nelson Muntz vibes all over it.

    • @DerekPower
      @DerekPower 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      NOBODY LIKES MILHOUSE!

    • @SonofMrPeanut
      @SonofMrPeanut 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Marge: Oh, Milhouse doesn't count.

    • @TELMEman
      @TELMEman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hm, maybe TheRealJims will like this album then…

    • @stefanfilipovits21
      @stefanfilipovits21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TOTALLY!

    • @stefanfilipovits21
      @stefanfilipovits21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@DerekPower “he can’t hear you. We had to pack his ears with gauze”

  • @KylieWilson
    @KylieWilson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +379

    For the record, I don't think Cher is a BAD singer per se, she just has a very unusual alto voice. There's a difference between having a clean voice for pop music and having a more unique style of singing. I have to put up with dumb poptimist friends accusing singers of other genres of not being able to sing. She might not have an eight-octave range but she can hold a tune at least.

    • @edwardphilibin3151
      @edwardphilibin3151 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Rudy Overlord Which might mean something if most people were even vaguely aware that he'd done anything in the decades since he left Chicago. (The band, not the city.)

    • @berkeleyisonline160
      @berkeleyisonline160 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      yeah kinda the way that some ppl may be turned off from artists like bjork or kate bush. they aren't bad singers, they just have a unique vocal quality/delivery that they prioritise over ability

    • @Uniboros
      @Uniboros 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      berkeley is online Bjork has a gorgeous singing voice imo... it sounds like an intergalactic fae goddess is screaming into my ear, much akin to another one of her contemporaries, Kate Bush... or Grimes....

    • @Demiglitch
      @Demiglitch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I don't think anyone related to the pop music scene has any right to accuse someone else of not being able to sing.

    • @musyarofah1
      @musyarofah1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Cher's vocal is so deep, it's closer to bariton than soprano

  • @vaelethun
    @vaelethun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Seeing Gregg Allman's forced "oh god I do NOT want to be here" smile at 2:38 just says it all.

    • @chuckbatman5
      @chuckbatman5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      That whole clip is just bizarre. Her space alien hair, his awkward almost-smile, the way she calls him her "good friend", it's so incredibly awkward

    • @smergthedargon8974
      @smergthedargon8974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It looks like the smile of an autistic child who's being TOLD to smile yet doesn't really understand what a smile is or what it expresses.
      Source: Am autistic

    • @SunyCartoons
      @SunyCartoons 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Cher: And this is my good friend Gregg Allman!
      Crowd: *cheers*
      Gregg: *screams in introvert*

    • @progrocker666
      @progrocker666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@SunyCartoons Gregg looks like the kind of man whose only 'genuine smile' appears when he's raising hell in a bar lol

  • @maxwipson147
    @maxwipson147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +419

    "Cher was on the list of flop albums nine times."
    "Nine times?"
    "Niiine tiiiiimes"

    • @Betta66
      @Betta66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      "I can do it. I can do it nine times."
      - Cher, probably

    • @merlinyesreally
      @merlinyesreally 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Rooney! Rrr!

    • @MrMcKane
      @MrMcKane 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ferris bueller's day off reference?

    • @Betta66
      @Betta66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Deano Johns Homestar Runner reference, actually

    • @maxwipson147
      @maxwipson147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@MrMcKane It was Ferris Bueller

  • @Radlum
    @Radlum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    I love when Todd's videos age poorly, but I didn't expect this one to do so in the first 2 minutes with the Wilde/Sudeikis couple

    • @vinnym5607
      @vinnym5607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      2 full years later and Kelly Clarkson made a "Kellyaoke" album...(might be an ep, but close enough).

  • @annamaria__
    @annamaria__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Little side note : it's sad but at the same time a bit funny that all the stable-but-non-interesting couples mentioned by Tood have now split up 😅
    love this show btw

    • @jojoversus1100
      @jojoversus1100 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Classic Tood. Always calling the breakups.

    • @MrGared22
      @MrGared22 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yeah, Toddstradamus isn't just for music anymore

    • @Annie._.Sham03
      @Annie._.Sham03 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban are still together... for now

  • @iandawson6461
    @iandawson6461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +417

    "I would make sure this album didn't exist" I never knew this existed until now. I never knew Allman and Cher were a thing. That's how bad this was, time has erased a marriage!

    • @gdkeen3307
      @gdkeen3307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      The irony is people HAD forgotten this and by doing the video Todd turned back time and brought it back into existence.

    • @dacypher22
      @dacypher22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I had no idea this was a thing either. I am familiar with both, at least to some degree and my first thought was ".....what?"

    • @TetsuDeinonychus
      @TetsuDeinonychus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I only knew because of a joke from Family Guy.

    • @ywahhhhhssus
      @ywahhhhhssus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      For a reason! Cher has a number of albums she doesn't allow on streaming services. She hates almost all of her music

  • @snarkbotanya6557
    @snarkbotanya6557 4 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    "This album feels a lot like having a baby to save the marriage. It's bad for the both of you and it fucks up the baby."
    Considering they did have a baby the year before this album dropped, I will consider this album the unintentional musical expression of exactly how that went for them: terribly, no matter how much they pretended to still be happy together.

  • @mcolville
    @mcolville 4 ปีที่แล้ว +571

    Todd your presentation is so good, it makes shit we don't know anything about fascinating, and shit we DO know about fascinating.

    • @coolroachbugs
      @coolroachbugs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Further proof that everyone on the internet likes Todd

    • @ninjabluefyre3815
      @ninjabluefyre3815 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd never heard of Arrested Development, but I love watching the Zingalamaduni video.

  • @ANNEMARIE.K236
    @ANNEMARIE.K236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Watching his knowing that six months later Olivia Wilde would leave Jason Sudeikis for Harry Styles is so funny

    • @KrisRN23935
      @KrisRN23935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What!?

    • @xX_MC_OvU_PvP_YT_Xx
      @xX_MC_OvU_PvP_YT_Xx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you can tell who's realllllly invested in pop culture by who comments shit like this

  • @Davidwash3r3
    @Davidwash3r3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    It really is saying something that Cher and Nic Cage had more chemistry together in Moonstruck than Cher and her then husband had when making Two the Hard Way

    • @standardofexcellence
      @standardofexcellence 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rebound screw, chicks are more succeptible n guys just cash in

    • @embunchofnumbers
      @embunchofnumbers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Cher slapping Nic Cage had more chemistry than Cher and Gregg

    • @kate_cooper
      @kate_cooper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cher also had more chemistry with Chris Evans (the English one) in TFI Friday.

  • @WaitingtoHit
    @WaitingtoHit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    This story has a happy ending. Gregg got married four more times. By the seventh wife, he had marriage completely figured out.

    • @daishoryujin95
      @daishoryujin95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      If at first you don’t succeed….

    • @mrcliff3709
      @mrcliff3709 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Well, he did die not too long after it, so I guess you can call it a success.

  • @thedumpsterdaddy5692
    @thedumpsterdaddy5692 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    "Jason Sudekis and Oliva Wilde seem perfectly happy" True peak Toddstadamus.

  • @BeeKay5150
    @BeeKay5150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    This makes me sad Cher and Gene Simmons never made an album while dating. That would be a Todd in the Shadows multi-part extravaganza.

    • @Demiglitch
      @Demiglitch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Excuse fucking me, but Gene Simmons?

    • @soulbrother5435
      @soulbrother5435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah she could contribute on his solo album much more. Even tho Gene's an a-hole his solo album is my favorite among all four kiss released in 78

    • @BeeKay5150
      @BeeKay5150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Demiglitch Idk why I'm just seeing this reply now, but yes...THAT Gene Simmons lol

    • @BeeKay5150
      @BeeKay5150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@soulbrother5435 I'm partial to Ace's, if for nothing else "Rip It Out". I can take Gene's in parts. I'm good on Peter's 🙂

    • @thescott7539
      @thescott7539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@soulbrother5435 I do like "Living In Sin" which features Cher playing a groupie. I think they would have meshed pretty well on a record.

  • @NJGuy1973
    @NJGuy1973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    By 1983, this album was out of print. It was never released on CD or iTunes. Cher owns the master tapes, so that's that.

    • @RobertJRoman
      @RobertJRoman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The 3rd track on the album, "Can You Fool," appeared on the 4CD Allman Brothers "Dreams" box set in 1989.

    • @jackolanternaudio372
      @jackolanternaudio372 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And she probably doesn't want anyone to hear it again.

    • @dannserv
      @dannserv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jackolanternaudio372 She actually did release the album on her official TH-cam page in October.

  • @chefbanjo8139
    @chefbanjo8139 4 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    The Blazing Saddles joke was perfect. That’s about the hardest I’ve guffawed at a Todd joke in a while.

    • @Scorpia161
      @Scorpia161 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Seriously, as someone who started watching Todd when he was still with That Website: his humor has aged like a fine wine.

    • @SuperJNG18
      @SuperJNG18 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@Scorpia161 He's always been more deliberate about which relevant film/TV clips he uses than certain other creators who just do it for pop culture knowledge flexing.

  • @rocketgeek96
    @rocketgeek96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Fun fact: I nearly ended up with this album, and on vinyl, no less.
    My hairdresser learned that I had a budding vinyl collection, and decided to give away some of her old records. While I did see both Boston's and Dire Straits' self-titled debut albums in there, hidden behind a Seals and Crofts greatest hits was Allman and Woman.
    I had legit no idea that Cher and Gregg Allman made an album, much less that they were married for a time. I asked her about it, and she said that it was one of those couples that you only heard about through the rancid drama surrounding them. They didn't have good chemistry, or for that matter any outward enjoyment of each other's presence.
    Here's the kicker: She seemed sad to hear that I wasn't taking A&W off her hands. A woman who lives and breathes 70s-80s cheesy pop rock, to the point that she was actually shocked and offended that I had never heard of Dr. Hook and the Medicine Show before, thought it was better to give away that album instead of it ultimately ending up in the dump.
    That should tell you everything you need to know about this record.

  • @RyanStorey1231
    @RyanStorey1231 4 ปีที่แล้ว +316

    I'm glad I'm not the only one who hates Gwen Stefani and Blake Shelton as a couple.
    It's like going to your high school reunion and discovering that the cool rebellious punk girl somehow ended up with the football team's backup quarterback who's really let himself go.

    • @prismaze
      @prismaze 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      She's too good for him, i know thats mean but nobody is gonna say it so... and if they get married and have kids she gonna take like 10 years to make a fucking album. *sweats in gay*

    • @RyanStorey1231
      @RyanStorey1231 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Honey Lemon - Well, she's like 50 now and already has three kids from a previous marriage, so I think that ship has sailed.

    • @Ramblinman26
      @Ramblinman26 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I really don't get what the problem is, why can't people just leave them alone and stop judging. So far, everybody I've seen who hates Blake and Gwen together is people who think He's ugly, which is just incredibly shallow and stupid to me.

    • @eamonndeane587
      @eamonndeane587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@prismaze They're now engaged.... Sorry.....

    • @Demiglitch
      @Demiglitch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I don't think anybody cares about Gwen Stefani or knows who Blake Shelton is.

  • @mightyfilm
    @mightyfilm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    No matter how hard I try, I'll never NOT hear "You Really Got a Hold on Me" without immediately visualizing Smokey Robinson trying to escape the clutches of a VERY creepy Muppet letter U. And frankly, that's an apt metaphor for this couple.

    • @SuperJNG18
      @SuperJNG18 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah but “U Really Got a Hold on Me” is a banger

    • @edwardphilibin3151
      @edwardphilibin3151 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      That time a children's show populated by demented puppets interpreted your breakup song more accurately than two professional singers who were actually married. To each other.

    • @SugaredViolette
      @SugaredViolette 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the visual, lulz

    • @SuperJNG18
      @SuperJNG18 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@edwardphilibin3151 "Understanding begins with U/So lend me a hand and say 'Toodle-oo'..." Smokey Robinson was a champ for committing wholeheartedly to the parody.

    • @mightyfilm
      @mightyfilm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Kid's TV show that's been on the air for 50+ years, or blink and you'll miss it marriage. Which one would you trust?

  • @emdiar6588
    @emdiar6588 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Robert Fripp and Toyah Wilcox always amazed me as an unlikely pairing, but they seem incredibly happy.

    • @kennydnolan
      @kennydnolan ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I guess it's because they didn't release an album how much they lovey doveyed each other, and even if they did...Robert wouldn't have sang on it.

  • @PLAGUE-KARM
    @PLAGUE-KARM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +716

    I have no idea who some people on trainwreckords even are but Todd makes the topics interesting enough for me to watch anyway
    Edit: I know who Cher is lol. I just clicked on the video and didn’t pay attention to the title.

    • @leesfamilybreaks6089
      @leesfamilybreaks6089 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      One Hit Wonderland is the one that always gets me! I had never heard of songs like "fire", but, somehow, a 20 minute video about it seemed somehow too short lol! Genius :)!

    • @mmrw
      @mmrw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same bro

    • @darioshame
      @darioshame 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow

    • @Karmy.
      @Karmy. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed

    • @reid3031
      @reid3031 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      How do you not know who Cher is, and how do I become you

  • @roguishpaladin
    @roguishpaladin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    Between her super-long hair (which I'm sure some is fake but some has to be real) and his pretty long for a guy hair, how much money do you think the Greg and Cher Allman household spent on hair product while they were together? I theorize that it possibly exceeded the military expenditures of some small countries like Luxembourg.

    • @53subscribersnovideos35
      @53subscribersnovideos35 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Plus, it looks like Gregg dyes.

    • @alicecollins9918
      @alicecollins9918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I can guarantee their carpets were covered in hair, even a day after hoovering! I have long hair and my boyfriend does now as well (just below shoulder length, he hasn't had a haircut since before the pandemic). It feels like the second I hoover, more hair appears wherever I look. I don't get where it's coming from as neither of us are balding but jfc.
      Anyway, probably spent a good portion of their budget on haircare products I reckon! Well, if celebs like that even budget.

    • @2-d_in_a_bag
      @2-d_in_a_bag 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      as someone with long hair (to my ribs) probably quite a bit. i shed all over the place.

    • @justinbremer2281
      @justinbremer2281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      There's also the hidden cost for all the Dran-O to keep the shower unclogged

    • @mrcliff3709
      @mrcliff3709 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hope they didn't try to light up in there haha

  • @freeparking301
    @freeparking301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    Gregg Allman’s book title seems like a first line to some lyrics he wrote one day...
    My cross to bear,
    Her name was Cher,
    We made an album,
    I never pretended to care.

    • @screechingowl7613
      @screechingowl7613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Actually it is derived from the 1969 Allman brothers song "It's Not My Cross to Bear".

    • @freeparking301
      @freeparking301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ll have to check that out

  • @asurlybarber3620
    @asurlybarber3620 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Cher went on to win an Oscar.
    Gregg Allman went on to a successful career as Wolverine's archenemy Sabretooth.

    • @dw89music73
      @dw89music73 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, Gregg Allman kept playing with the Allman Brothers Band and on his own until his death in May 2017.

  • @FSEThompson
    @FSEThompson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Something about Cher being on a list of biggest flop albums NINE TIMES is just so incredibly perfect

    • @kaitlin9288
      @kaitlin9288 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love that FOR her honestly

    • @atlassolid5946
      @atlassolid5946 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      there's a reason she's called the goddess of pop. she's basically immortal at this point

    • @dieterdelange9488
      @dieterdelange9488 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some of her flops gained cult followings and were re-evaluated and considered better than originally thought.

  • @MrSkerpentine
    @MrSkerpentine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +274

    11:57 I curse you for making me think of this:
    Cher: “Honey! It’s time for our 4 pm album recording!”
    Gregg Allman: *yes honey...*
    Also I love how even when you get big enough for sponsors to notice you, your ads aren’t blown out or anything. Just Todd’s base voice, little jokes, and his iconic slideshow editing. Never change, man. (Well if you do, change for the better, but your call ;])

    • @carybeweary7209
      @carybeweary7209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Damn,now I want someone to make a meme of that!

    • @RobertJRoman
      @RobertJRoman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I don't usually call out spelling errors, but a "base voice" would be a voice that is foul and depraved. Reading your comment that way makes it funnier.

    • @chuckbatman5
      @chuckbatman5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah as soon as he said that I could see an image in my mind of Gregg Allman with that meme template saying "Yes dear..."

  • @patrick_dy3r
    @patrick_dy3r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Chregg?
    🎵 SomeBODY ONCE TOLD ME - 🎵

  • @bespectacledheroine7292
    @bespectacledheroine7292 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Cutting to When Loving Lovers Love during the first song made me choke on my dinner. Thanks Todd.

  • @ECL28E
    @ECL28E 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    You ain't a superstar until you either solve a mystery with Scooby-Doo, interact with the Muppets (including Sesame Street), or Weird Al makes fun of you

  • @denisdrozdoff2926
    @denisdrozdoff2926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Best thing about this -- while both of them are descent singers they managed to sound like aunt&uncle singing karaoke at a wedding.

  • @mrlevinielsen
    @mrlevinielsen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    This whole album is like 99% novelty and 1% songwriting

    • @saintdane05
      @saintdane05 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'm pretty sure most of this album was just covers

  • @ryan1976
    @ryan1976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    I'm convinced that the look for Sabretooth in the first X-Men movie was based on Gregg Allman.

    • @carybeweary7209
      @carybeweary7209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They do look similar

    • @jmann6130
      @jmann6130 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@carybeweary7209 i think i remember hearing John Byrne was an Allman bros fan so he could have been his physical inspiration

  • @ATBPRODUCTlONS
    @ATBPRODUCTlONS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Todd mentions this album would've done better if it leaned more into Cher and Gregg's marriage collapsing and their sadness and I agree with him, especially since I do find it funny that an album about love and a happy marriage was rejected by the public the same year that Fleetwood Mac put out Rumours, an album about marriage and romances completely falling apart which is now considered one of the best albums ever made.

  • @wyattcorbin1629
    @wyattcorbin1629 4 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    Definitely not a Trainwreckord for Cher herself, though. She’s showed rubber-band like resiliency for decades, as well as just being plain likeable.

    • @NJGuy1973
      @NJGuy1973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      It's been said that if nuclear war broke out, all that would survive would be cockroaches, Twinkies, and Cher.

    • @RLucas3000
      @RLucas3000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      NJGuy1973 I’d love to think that Dolly Parton and Betty White would join her.

    • @TheHappySpaceman
      @TheHappySpaceman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It arguably wasn't a Trainwreckord for Gregg, either. He continued having hits and the Allman Brothers had a successful reunion.

    • @roguishpaladin
      @roguishpaladin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, but it was a Trainwreckord. Cher's career did die. It's not Todd's fault that apparently Cher is David Dunn.

    • @DBEO23
      @DBEO23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Cher will have outlived us and have more comebacks than humanity. Well all have nuked our selves and she’ll have her 97th comeback and that’ll give humanity its 48th Cher aided human comeback

  • @vincentvangogodancer
    @vincentvangogodancer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    You managed to walk the tight rope of insulting and complimenting both of them equally.
    That must have taken a lot of work.

    • @gregorymelissinos337
      @gregorymelissinos337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It helps that he is not insulting them but the idea of them producing art together. They are two great tastes that just do not go together like ketchup and peanut butter.

  • @terminallumbago6465
    @terminallumbago6465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    If I could turn back time
    If I could find a way
    I’d make sure this album
    Never saw the light of day

  • @pardonthemusic
    @pardonthemusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    i still think back to the time i was in macon for gregg allman's funeral procession. it was sad seeing people worry more about trying to take pictures of cher in a tinted limo than recall the memories of listening to the allman brothers. it was exhausting...

    • @SunyCartoons
      @SunyCartoons 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Ugh, are people serious? That's so disgusting. People were there to mourn him, including Cher, and there were idiots there taking pictures and shit? Wow.

    • @thebowiththemost119
      @thebowiththemost119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@SunyCartoons that’s fucking horrible.

  • @hiimemily
    @hiimemily 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Gotta say, "Shadow Dream Song" is pretty beautiful. Easily the best song on the album.

    • @MichaelKurse
      @MichaelKurse 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Came across it on You Tube last year. Now it's one of my favorite songs 🤗😆😆😆

  • @RoyStorey
    @RoyStorey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    the one trainwreckords i'd like to see is 'carasmatic' by irene cara. she went from being a breakout 80s pop act with six top 40 singles to a legal mess of an album that ended her singing career for over twenty years.

    • @auldthymer
      @auldthymer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I want to know that story.

    • @christoddur
      @christoddur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      too many producers on the album, including John Farrar, the man behind Olivia Newton-John. When there's no cohesive sound behind an album, it can go off the rails pretty quickly.

    • @saj8
      @saj8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christoddur That the problem when you have too many producers on one album: no cohesive direction. Pick one direction and stick to it.

    • @christoddur
      @christoddur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@saj8 sometimes it works: Carly Simon's "Coming Around Again" comes to mind - but, most times it does not.

    • @saj8
      @saj8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@christoddur That's because the executives want the artists to chase different audiences at once. Appetite For Destruction is an album that had one direction and stuck to it.

  • @ihackedmyself
    @ihackedmyself 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    To be fair to Cher, Greg had been married 7 times before he died.

  • @theloverlyladylo9158
    @theloverlyladylo9158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +401

    It’s super weird that they keep introducing each other as “good friends”. You’re married. Everyone knows you’re married. Why are you not opening with “this is my wife/husband”? Are you trying to convince each other that you still like each other?

    • @ZJP
      @ZJP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      Possibly, but honestly, when I (as a dude in his younger thirties with an older mother, with heavy influence from my grandmother growing up) think of the humor and sensibilities of that generation -- the "joke" is underplaying your relationship/skills.
      They're speaking to, assumedly, a crowd that is aware of their marriage, and the "joke" is that "oh, we're friends!". It'd be like saying, "this guy knows a thing or two about basketball, it's Lebron James!" or "This person has dabbled in writing, it's George RR Martin!"

    • @Belgand
      @Belgand 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@ZJP Except saying that Martin has only dabbled in writing is pretty accurate. Can we start referring to him as "Pro Football Blogger, George RR Martin" yet?

    • @rebeccat.6134
      @rebeccat.6134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I believe those were introduction clips from her tv show ("Cher" 1975-76) not from promo for this album (1977), so there's two options: she may have introduced most guests that way and it was just standard. Or, it was part of the program from before they were officially married- the show began in February; her divorce from sonny was finalized and she married Gregg on June 30.

    • @roguishpaladin
      @roguishpaladin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Belgand Just because he hasn't written the book you wanted doesn't mean he hasn't written. Heck, he's written a lot _in_ Westeros since 2011, just not the next book.

    • @lunabearsong2043
      @lunabearsong2043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can be good friends while also being married, though.

  • @Drogon7102
    @Drogon7102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +306

    Congratulations on the sponsorship todd.

    • @daneray9594
      @daneray9594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It happens to everyone, I suppose. Still, I'm glad he could find a way to keep the channel going.

    • @heliosfromacrossastar878
      @heliosfromacrossastar878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am so happy for him!

    • @achair650
      @achair650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's about time this talent gets some real adventure time pirating money😄🤘

    • @Drogon7102
      @Drogon7102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@achair650 that is a deep cut.

    • @Aster_Risk
      @Aster_Risk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Drogon7102 Seriously.

  • @AlexSpalex1
    @AlexSpalex1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    For the next Trainwreckords on Garth Brooks in...The Life Of Chris Gaines. Essentially it was Brooks trying to pull off Bono's The Fly shtick, but failing miserably.

    • @ThierryRocksTV
      @ThierryRocksTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I'm surprised Chris Gaines never became a big meme

    • @prismaze
      @prismaze 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I really hope he does this.

    • @NEEDbacon
      @NEEDbacon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I too wish for this simply so I can fully understand Regular Car Review's joke of "Cadillac's Chris Gaines album"

  • @Malkmusianful
    @Malkmusianful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I'm amazed that Todd never mentioned Deadsy/Elijah Blue once during this episode.
    That's how I keep reminding myself that Cher and Gregg Allman were a thing - that their son was the "Key to Gramercy Park" dude.

  • @DayPlayer_CB
    @DayPlayer_CB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Todd bro every time you use MST3K footage you add years to my life. Congrats, you are now my health provider!

  • @ponygon777
    @ponygon777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    As a Cher album, Two the Hard Way was a forgettable experiment in Cher's long discography
    As a Gregg Allman album, Two the Hard Way was the ultimate sell-out record with one good song (Shadow Dream Song) that deserves to be on a better Gregg Allman project.

  • @awzthemusicalreviews
    @awzthemusicalreviews 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Every look on Gregg's face showcases disgust, and I can clearly see why. This might rank up there with Duane dying as the worst thing to happen to his career.

  • @MariktheGunslinger
    @MariktheGunslinger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    Refreshing to know that 70's music sucked as much as it rocked.
    Hey Todd, have you considered covering more music-related movies? Would be a nice way to fill the Cinemadonna-shaped hole in our hearts.

    • @Belgand
      @Belgand 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I was going through a project of listening to every Billboard Hot 100 #1 from 1960 to the present and I had to stop when I hit the early '70s. It was always a bit spotty, but that was just a miserable era where soft rock and saccharine easy listening pop took over almost completely. There was a ton of great rock happening, but it wasn't the forefront of the culture. It was actually kind of fascinating to watch how rapidly things began to splinter more and more into specific niches.

    • @rockingbirdey
      @rockingbirdey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Belgand it was at the forefront of culture. Just not really on the pop charts. Look at the Billboard 200. Rock music dominated the album chart in the late 60s and all of the 70s, since FM radio became a thing

    • @markhalm9889
      @markhalm9889 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      His Song vs Song podcast does that for patreon subscribers

    • @rockisheaven
      @rockisheaven ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I would love a series on Elvis or Bowie’s film careers. Granted, there’s a LOT less crap when it comes to Bowie…

  • @davidnissim589
    @davidnissim589 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    One pretty interesting thing about Gregg and Cher’s marriage is that they had a son, Elijah, who went on to start an industrial metal group (Deadsy).

  • @glyph1869
    @glyph1869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I continue to think Trainwreckords is your absolute best work. I get more excited by you uploading a Trainwreckords than anything else, I must have watched all of them a hundred times.

  • @tisFrancesfault
    @tisFrancesfault 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I mean I love Cher. But when it comes to this album all I can say is ...Cher I love you, we all make mistakes.

  • @dibs0equiped
    @dibs0equiped 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I just learned of his brother yesterday and what a guitarist he was. None of this would've happened if a truck wouldn't have suddenly stopped in front of Duane Allmans Harley-Davidson.

  • @BloodyAltima
    @BloodyAltima 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As deeply personal of a thing as music making is for a lot of performers, I think its very possible that the record's failure and scathing response, while obviously not the only thing that broken the relationship, played a very large part in it- here's a major thing that defines both of our lives, both professionally and otherwise, and we demonstrably cannot do so together to any degree of functionality.

  • @Shorai_3
    @Shorai_3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Gregg Allman, how did you handle it when life got you down?
    "Me? I did a lot of drugs, married some broad named Cher, and I wouldn't recommend either one of them".

  • @GolumTR
    @GolumTR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Nobody’s mentioning it but finding the moment where Cher blows which instrument Greg plays (she says guitar, he’s mainly a keyboardist) is a killer “A Storm Is Coming” moment

  • @Crablemet
    @Crablemet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    I hope one day you will make a series about landmark albums, kinda like the opposite of trainwreckord.
    I would love to hear you talk about "good" bands because there is no way some of those bands will ever make any of your series sadly

    • @snapchatsnacks3154
      @snapchatsnacks3154 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What would a good name be. The first thing I can think of would be star trecords

    • @roguishpaladin
      @roguishpaladin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Well, remember that he started OHW because he felt that the good bands were already getting way too much coverage and that someone had to reveal the stories of the other artists. Trainwreckords kinda falls in the same vein - a piece of art that not a lot of people talk about. That's not to say I wouldn't mind hearing more about bands I like from him also, but I'm not sure it would fit his mission.

    • @RDV333
      @RDV333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I mean, that kinda defeats the point of Todd's channel, because every single other music outlet and music reviewer does that, unlike Todd, that sifts through the obscure trash.

    • @Crablemet
      @Crablemet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RDV333 in that case could you recommend some other music channels on youtube? most of them I find are devoid of any personality
      I am already subscribed to spectrum pulse and double agent and buckley, they are main music channels I watch and would love some more

    • @periflores1002
      @periflores1002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      All good albums are the same; all bad albums are bad in their own way.

  • @KingHiki
    @KingHiki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    OHW: Face down by The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus would be the perfect opportunity to talk about 2000's pop punk/emo.

    • @snapchatsnacks3154
      @snapchatsnacks3154 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I have heard about Red jumpsuit apparatus. I have never heard a song of theirs. I heard about them through a drama they had where they posted a picture without permission and acted like dicks about it.

    • @HYBRIDZHQ
      @HYBRIDZHQ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@snapchatsnacks3154 adoseofbuckley?

    • @UBvtuber
      @UBvtuber 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@HYBRIDZHQ Never forget #RohanisaTool

    • @rubberwoody
      @rubberwoody 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @jbiehlable i know that song from MX vs ATV untamed

    • @roddorfj
      @roddorfj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He mentioned it on Twitter before, mentioning how it was an anomaly in the genre by being about something that actually mattered.

  • @knightwing5169
    @knightwing5169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The reason it wasn't a Trainwreckord for either of them was that both of them did a good job of pretending it never happened.

  • @ivratsdargy955
    @ivratsdargy955 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    "Gregg Allman, what did you do when life got you down?"
    "Me? I did a lot of drugs, married some broad named Cher, and I wouldn't recommend either one of 'em."

  • @exhaustedbaking
    @exhaustedbaking ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Coming back now that Kelly Clarkson has released Kellyoke. Toddstradamus strikes again.

    • @baileyr7553
      @baileyr7553 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was about to comment that! Super funny.

  • @SithCats
    @SithCats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Whenever a couple releases an album about how much they're in love, it makes me think they're really doing terribly. See: Lita Ford's Wicked Wonderland album, which she has since completely disowned.

  • @JTCurtisMusic
    @JTCurtisMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Todd briefly mentioned this but The Allman Brothers has two of the most eerie deaths of any band: Duane Allman died in a motorcycle crash in 1971 in Macon GA. Only 13 months later in 1972, Berry Oakley died motorcycle crash only a couple blocks away from where Duane died. They were both 24... that... is messed up!
    FYI, The Allman Brothers AT FILLMORE EAST is one of my favorite records of all time. And yes, "Allman and Woman" is a far cry from that.

  • @jimmyl27
    @jimmyl27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    TODD GOT A SPONSOR YAAAAYYYY

    • @dwc1964
      @dwc1964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      and he seems overjoyed

  • @marcg2106
    @marcg2106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    from my memory, Cher went from Sonny to If I could turn back time... I did not know anything about her in between... until today.
    He does look like he's phoning in his performance in parts and, as pointed out, he's there for the music and she's there to prove their love. 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @user-ellievator
    @user-ellievator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    _Third Cher-Gregg Split Announced_
    *CRAB FEAST*