Casting A Mini Kit - Part 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2022
- In this video I cast the miniature kit in the mold I made last week.
Thanks to the following companies for supplying the materials used in this video:
Econosil-25 Silicone Rubber
I buy my casting supplies at www.silpak.com
Here is a list of suppliers for many of the materials I use in my videos:
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Yes, I know it's already 2 years old, but thank you for that video. It's good to see that there are other crazy guys out there, who are casting whole miniature kits. A lot of useful hints and inputs for improving my techniques. And I simple love the humorouse way you explain the stuff. Greetings from Austria!
I think people who want "full" videos every two weeks can choose to watch them that way as long as you have them marked in parts. For myself, I love seeing a video every week!
One point I'd like to make about re-casting... you can make your own edits! I bet you could easily put two wax triangles on that space marine's helmet and give him cat ears. In fact, I'd love to see you "kit-bash" or edit a mini and make a clean reproduction of it!
Yeah it is a great way to kit bash, especially if you need a lot of small parts. Like say you are doing a warhammer army and you want to use some helmets or arms from an enemy faction to show your army "claiming the gear of the fallen".
A few other reasons to cast something like this miniature: 1) For customizing. A lot of people want to swap out heads, weapons, arms, etc on miniatures in order to make a specific look that might not be obtainable any other way, other than sculpting your own figure. Rather than cutting up a purchased miniature, they'll just cast for parts. 2) To fix broken parts. Similar to the first reason, but these minis often fall off in the floor, get stepped on, or have weak spots to begin with, so casting a second figure allows you to replace an arm or broken pulse rifle, etc. 3) Army building. If you buy 5 minis, and then cast all five at once, five times, you suddenly have a nice troop of figures. Though you can buy minis at local shops or online, there is such a thing as stores having limited stock on-hand. By the time you buy the minis, wait for the restock, pay for the shipping, etc, it's a pain in the ass. At least with casting things yourself, you don't have to sit by passively waiting around for the pandemic mail to arrive. Patience is a virtue, but a lot of people got to get on with getting on. lol Me, I can wait. I do like to customize things though, so recasting is a fun way to help out with that.
You make some good points, things can have more value than the price tag
Exactly, two years ago i was trying to buy additional 4 rifles for my minature soldiers and on official store there were sold out, after googling i have found only 1 set in other store in my country. Recast was the only option left for me. And yes it was costly and time consumming but now i have them on the shelf :)
Thats exactly what I will do. I want a special gun for my models, however the gun is part of another set, where I don't like the models. So instead of buying a lot of sets I cannot use, I will buy it once and make a mold from their guns only. Which I will use on models from the same manufacturer anyway.
"Companies have learned that the best thing is a devoted group of fans who love their products"
I wish GW can understand this soon :')
GW is anyway trying to rip off their customers and fans where ever they can. =P
I mean ... White Dwarf subscriber delivery, games day gate ... ^_^'
Just for fun: I once went into a GW store (like 1996 maybe) and told the vendor while chatting that I created my own winged tyrant because I thought it was cool. He replied: "But there are no rules for that, that's nonsense." And now look at the rule books today and the cool flying tyrant models. That's how much games workshop wants their fans to do their own fan stuff instead of buying everything till today, 26 years later.
@@roger.agburn dont forget the competitive rules these days.
everything must be assembled exactly to the likeness of the box cover or its not valid, you cant use the army if you decided to add some cool bits from another one of their product, hell you cant even play in a GW store in general if you have third party bits on your model. your terminator is invalid because it got a bit from kromlech.
now thats some bs.
@@KossolaxtheForesworn Sounds awesome. That's how you amaze ppl who like modelling. :D Man, the guys in the GW stores then will love my complete proxy army ... lmao. I created a complete army of "Zombie Marines" with enough different models to use them on any codex I want to. Should bring them into a flagship store and watch how the merchants' heads explode. ;-P
Well I sculpt my own miniatures, and it absolutely makes economic sense for me to mold and cast my own miniatures even if it is just for my own use. And I wouldn't be able to do it even half as good as I can if not for your instructive videos Robert.
So don't be discouraged by the nay sayers, it comes with the territory of having a successful TH-cam channel. More power to you!
Please keep making these videos!
Thanks for the support Chris!
Thank you, Mr. Tolone!
A sneaky trick, when filling put small molds on spin tables. Give em a spin afteer filling then fill them again befor pulling the air out with a vacuum. Avoids the 2 half squish
You have just gained another follower. Keep rocking, old man! Such a nice work and charisma!
Greetings from far south South America!
One thing that people need to remember is that sometimes, this is the only way to get out-of-print miniatures. There are some oop metal minis that currently go for over a hundred dollars for one miniature. This is the case when I'd make a copy for playing with and keeping the metal one safe so it doesnt get damaged.
Thank you for a great video! Keep up the great content!
This channel is fabulous. You rock.
Shaking scene is golden! 🤣
Cost is one thing but, it’s the education is priceless.
I'm here to learn to cast my own creations. And that Reaper figure looks like a Space Marine to me.
Great video as always. It’s worth pointing out that sometimes companies stop making certain lines of figures from time to time. It’s great to be able to reproduce your favourite pieces when they’re no longer available.
"It's great TO BE ABLE TO reproduce..." (emphasis added) just about says it all.
I use Games Workshop preview pictures and replicate them to the best of my ability in 3D modeling software. Print out a copy for myself and paint it to the shelf. The original kits cost upwards of 30 bucks for a single model, some heroes with huge platforms/beasts will cost over 100. It might take me two months to replicate one (thought the last figure "only" took 3 days). Even at minimum wage I'm not turning in a profit by replicating them.
But
1) It's fun, and it's practice. With every model you have a new set of problems to solve, and since I've only been doing this for two years, I'm still learning the software and the ins and outs of modeling. I take a new set of learned skills off from each model I make.
2) It does save me money. The 3D printer will churn out a model for 5 bucks, as opposed to the 100 bucks the kit costs.
3) No, it's not costing GW, because I was never going to buy the kits at the price point they offer the models at. At best I'd try to find them used on eBay. No loss of sales can be proven at any point.
All things you pointed out at the end of the video (well it does sound like resin casting would actually be even more expensive at every point, unless you take a really expensive kit to replicate). But it's always fun to watch hobbyists and professionals at their craft.
Love the rant at the end. 🤣
If you ever decide to create a mold makers kit with your name on it, I will be first in line. Lol Keep up the great videos!
50000! Congratulations!
Astounding! Thanks!
I enjoyed the rant 😁
It also does make sense to mold pieces like this if it's from a line that's been discontinued.
Those shop towels underwent an interesting metamorphosis somewhere in the middle of this week...
The shop is in transition and things are getting shuffled around. Lots more changes to come…
what a gem of a chanel
this helped me to cast broken parts of my figures, thanks
Man these videos are a treat, instant sub!
To reiterate my praise on the other video, your tutorials on mold making are immense. I'm currently making silicone molds and casting out of print miniatures/parts and I would never be able to do so without your educational content. Thank you again.
Make your video's the way that is the easy for you and thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge . An old friend would always tell me " There is more than one way to kill a cat without kissing it to death " .Which means there can be many ways of doing things 🤔
Simple, 45 minute sparkling well edited documentaries every day, i don't see what's the source of confusion really.
Loved the rant 🖤
Sir... you are a Master (and a great techer for all of us) so... what we learn from you casting a 3 bucks miniature worth much more money that 3 bucks.
Second: what we learn from a 3 bucks model casting are the same things for a 3000 bucks thing to cast... so please... keep teaching us... and forget about non-sense comments!
we love u rob! dont u mind the haters bro! keep showing me some casting techniques!
thanks for another great video
Great video!
In Mexico it do makes sense recasting, here is more expensive buying a lot of pieces than trying to reproduce some of them, I do with other pieces of these wargames like tiles, walls, etc. And yeah it's really fun and you learn a lot. Thank you for your master classes, you're really solid gold.
It depends what your casting; if say you have a box of three 28mm minatures that cost $60. That math will rapidly work ount in your favor as the mold will be good for many pulls; especially with mold release. While the amount of resin used is minimal. If your were to take the parts off the sprue and gate them yourself; you could much more effienct in your use of silicone. For instance the mold box here is lot wider and taller than it needs to be; and than extra volume is wasting silicone. For 28mm minatures a 1/4 inch past of silicone around the parts is enough to keep the mold from deforming.
Loved the rant at the end
when parts from a certain Workshop that makes a few kinds of Games, some figures can be $10 a pop from a set or more, its a great idea
Hey everybody!!! Bob is doing this, all of this as a “TEACHING CHANNEL”. Did anyone get something out of this mold making and casting? If just one person learns something he didn’t know before Bob showed us this “Splash Mold” technique than it was worth his time and effort. I never heard of a
“SPLASH MOLD” so yes I guess I’m the one! Who else learned something from this technique? Come on tell Bob what you think.
I just want to say thank you. I appreciate your inspiration, philosophy, and tutorials. I have learned so much from you and your channel. Thank you!
For homemade and kitbashed miniatures molds like these are gold! Thanks for the video!
This is key. It's not economical to do this to replicate a $3 miniature but it does make sense to replicate your favorite parts from a kit so you don't have to buy a bunch of more expensive model airplane kits just to get a couple little bits
I see 3 main ways to give longer videos to the full process crowd off the top of my head.
in decrecing order of complexity: Uploading a video combining the two parts in succesion, creating a playlist and adding at the end every new video in order or naming the videos in a more obvious way to the algorithm (so TH-cam would automatically recomend part 2 after seeng part one) ie "mini kit part 1: molding the bad boy" and "mini kit part 2: casting time"
Love your videos Robert. I know the consensus is probably in favour of shorter videos but I really like it when you show the full process without speeding everything up. I’d love to have seen more footage of you cutting that mould for instance. I always learn something new from watching you so the more the merrier in my opinion.
Seconding this. Not sure I'd want to watch you spend ten minutes cutting the mold every single time, but a 30 minute video just on cutting seems like it would be quite useful!
Do you ever use a piece of silicone coated cloth on the top to reenforce the hinge? I make jewellery and find my moulds tend to separate after multiple uses and was thinking of this as an option.
I have not tried that but it would probably work great!
Great! The other reason is if you want to do a copy of a rare model kit no more available on the market. Thanks Robert! :-)
well I was today years old when I learnt you could cast a mini in a non messy way ^^"
those 2 videos are really helping, I am myself recasting discontinued products to use them and this will come in handy ^^
One company does care about recasting, no matter how small. Games Workshop. That is a company that tried to copyright the term "Space Marine" despite the term predating the company by about 30 years. IP is something they are a bit nuts about.
Your videos are great, and it really makes me want to go out and sculpt some minies for myself and use your methods to reproduce them. Thank you.
Invaluable piece of information, thanks! This is gold!!
I am rolling my eyes because you have to point out the cost vs buy! Some people just have to make bad comments! You are also teaching us how to recast things that can't be bought in bulk, like rare or expensive things! Thank you for the hard work. You are giving us all your knowledge so money is saved by us learning what mistakes not to make from your years of trial and error.
Theirs a lot of old minatures that are basically priced as collectables now instead of bulk miniatures. One tiny kit, far smaller then this mini cost 30$. Makes sense to just cast it and then sell back the offical metal mini.
Recasting Reaper for sure is not an issue with their bones like, even metal, because of the cost. The only real threat is to collectors edition companies, even then, the recasters in China and Russia have already taken over that market in a huge way.
Awesome thanks for this, really interesting process! As someone who also does things that make no economic sense, I hear you :D
It never gets old watching you open up a mold and revealing the casting.
I know! I still love opening molds.
I would see this as a good way to recast gundam kits and other high end kits, instead of buying another one.....as they can get quite pricey, especially for a kitbash fan.
Awesome videos.
this is a great entry video for artists that want to reproduce their own art for much more than 10 times
It really helps make use of spare parts, I'm not gonna be paying who knows how much money to get classic Cadian shock troops bits when I can just cast the legs and torso then use up all my spares
Another reason to recast kits is that not all kits are available anymore. If you have an obscure 1980s modelkit and want a second one, chances are you can't pop down to the shops and pick one up for the price of a sandwich
I always learn something new. I hope you keep it up for a long time to come! I voted for videos every 2 weeks because I don't want you to get burned out churning them out every week!
As long as you have fun.. I sure enjoy watching you do what you do
Thank you so much for this video Robert, I really learned a lot! One thing I'd love to see is a "History Of..." sort of video - showcasing how molding practices and materials have changed over time (like transitioning from lead/tin mixes to pewter to plastic and resin) and the evolution of the technologies and casting methods involved over the years. I feel like your direct experience would be really valuable in this case, as there aren't a lot of primary sources! Cheers, and good casting!
I would like to see that video myself! The methods I teach on my channel are exactly the same as they were in the early 90’s when I started. Same materials, everything. So I never had to learn the old-timey methods used by patternmakers and foundries.
I need to recast a model I cannot find anymore. So, these videos are wonderful. Same thing for other objects that cannot be replaced. So sometimes recasting is NEEDED, along side of fun. So I thank you fellow hobbyist, I understand the need for this lovely hobby. Unfortunately I have no pressure pot 😕.
this was an absolute success. i have wasted so much silicone trying to do this it's not even funny. I wish i were this skilled
yeah this was definitely useful vid. I need to make molds for some space marine bits that I cant buy more because of the price of the original was already astronomical.
Awesome!
Just make each project its own playlist, I think. People on youtube really underuse playlists, it's a simple, effective solution that should make folks who want to watch each project in one sitting happy.
Excellent video! And one huge plus to this particular tutorial, I'm a sculptor, and should I sculpt my own design miniatures, I now know how to produce copies in resin to sell. And this unusual technique was great!. Also, maybe someone would want to customize a figure and then mold those for variety.
Thanks for all that you do. Super useful for someone like me, and others.
Honestly this type of thing is excellent for getting extra parts for kitbashing. As a plus, I like the look of that mini enough that I kinda wanna go pick him up. Cool little robot!
Thank you for he vid, love the content.
Another awesome video!
Sweet Mother of God! Hot to hit second like? That guide is exactly what i needed now.
The value in your casting is teaching an example that applies to other scenarios. Thanks for that. In case you don't already do that today. If you update part 1 with an embedded link to part 2 that works well. Especially for those who find part one years down the road.
I will do so. Thanks.
love these vids, love molding and used to use supplies from Prince august and mold with heat resist silicon for years, wish i thought of leaving a hinge in there! although RTV silicon is not as flexible, low melt metals were fun to use, if only my kitchen was as well supplied as your workshop :) i would have been turning out complete armies. company called GW should learn their fans are what makes them like you said
An additional reason to recast is lots of minis are "out of print". At the point where your only option is to buy an overpriced copy second hand on ebay, recasting might be worthwhile.
So fun to see you make the miniature mold and cast it. I'm a beginner at miniature work. Thank you very much for your video.
I loved your rant. The more time i can spend with my hobbies, the happier i am. It doesnt matter how much or how fast you can get something done. Its all about spending time doing what we enjoy. I just found your channel a week or two ago and i love what you do. I think you do a great job at inspiring others to be creative but also help others find inner piece within them selves doing something quiet and creative. So THANK YOU for all you do.
Also i missed the poll you took but i would love to see videos on a weekly basis. Just dont kill your self trying to finish a project so you can pump out another video just to keep other people happy. I'd say just show us what you got if you're ready, willing and able ;-)
Your channel is amazing ❤❤❤❤❤
Great video. Lots of fun.
Robert, you are the best mould maker on TH-cam. Thank you so much for this fantastic tutorial.
Thanks for watching my videos!
Thanks Robert for doing a miniature to cast. I cast many for my own enjoyment and creative exploration. Trouble is there isn’t too many videos or info online because of the stigma around recasting miniatures. I’ve had to piece it together trough trial and error, but feel free to do more on miniatures. Regardless, I’ll watch anything you create. Cheers.
another great video man! definitely enjoy seeing one a week, it's something i look forward to for sure.
Thank you so much for the videos, i enjoy your enthusiasm and approach!
Thank you for teaching us your skills.
Im still learning new things thank you
It is NEVER cost effective to DIY something that is sold at retail. Sometimes you can do better, do different, or just enjoy that you did it yourself, but it definitely is not cheaper than a mass produced product!
Gosh, I love your videos!
You could always do a monthly ‘Omnibus’ edit of all the projects that you have completed each month?
I’d still watch that, even If I’d watched the constituent parts.
Loving the channel Robert, see you next week. 😎👍
Thanks for the lessons, that is what you do. Fail fast and fail often your solutions to these challenges are well presented. Cheers!
thank you for sharing your skill
I play Warhammer 40K and as you're talking about the recasting the mini saying reaper's not going to care about that I.. well.. I just wish you could hear how hard I'm laughing Lmao
I’ve been waiting for mold making instruction on how to cast these things. I want to make characters for my grandkids to put together and they love to pop the pieces off and build them. I was totally in the dark about how to get the resin into all the parts. Thanks. I love love love your videos.
Excelente, gracias por el contenido
Looks crazy, but then you look at the price of that "Eldritch Omens" set... and well... you might come on top.
learned something new again!
I am sorry that some people can really just go out of their way to be like that
I have been doing this for fun for such a long time, I don't copy but I do still make little figures and just the feeling you get of making something like that is something else
thank you so much for the help you give, you and your work are a gems
Im building a waterloo diorama and its difficult to get some of the units as some sets are discontinued, so this method is very valuable to me also i can pick and choose which poses i want to use , thank you !!
I think of your channel as an educational one. It is akin to being an apprentice to a master, learning under his hands. I wish you did videos on working with pewter and spincasting, and the making and design of such molds. I don't know if you have expertise in that field, however, or equipment to do so.
I sculpted for a company that made all their products by spin casting so I’m very familiar with the process. But I never did spin casting in house. I’m a prototype guy, not a production guy. I’m looking at some pewter projects so we’ll see…
One thing I could suggest about the video release conundrum is that you could have "types" of projects; ones that make good multi-part videos and ones that are more consumable as single videos. Something like this recasting project would be fine as a single video, but something that is much more involved or in-depth might be better served in 3-4 chunkies (with a release schedule to match; weekly vids for multi-parters and maybe biweekly for bigger solo vids). You can even announce/tease videos by saying "Our next project will be a three-parter; it's going to be pretty involved... " and so on. Just my two cents on the matter; I'll watch regardless of what format you decide to use. Keep 'em coming!
Ive been mostly trying to recast part just so i can use all the extra bits in a kit, 1 orc body with 2 sets of heads and arms makes me want to make 4 different combinations and sure i can buy another kit but then i end up with even more extra loose bits
Great Video! That flashing was crazy, but the cleanup was really good. Even for a cleanout cast this little guy turned out really well. I think you could spin those little bits of debris in him as war marks if you were to paint it.
good video
Robert, you need to invest in a portable x-ray machine to figure out where to cut the mold. 😄😄😄
I loved your video and tips. I’m trying to make a mold of parts from my remote control car and can’t get around the small areas so I’m going to try prefilling which is something I haven’t thought about. Thanks!
Hi Robert, I am new to Mold and resin casting. I am learning a ton from your channel. I want to say, thank you for the time and effort you put into your videos. A wealth of info, thanks. Yes totally agree, an example of this video is learning and yes you can buy it cheaper but you can not buy this type of experience and teaching. I followed your videos and had a successful resin cast of an old vehicle Tail Light, super happy how it came out. Need to learn how to cost & charge for a mold and casting, that's my next step. Wow Silicon is expensive compared to my 3D printing but that's fine. new learning curve Thanks