I have to say ive seen a theory about every character potentially betraying Ainz... However i dont think anyone will betray him. At best Albedo could go a bit more crazy and do something stupid or someone could get brainwashed again but no betraials imo. Also i hate the fact they decided to make Renner and Demi meeting offscreen. First time i watched it i was genuwinely confused how and when tf that happened
@@jdelmo7001 also, she is really weak and the best she could do would be to leak information about nazarik, which would basically seal her death for good
@@econ347 yeah at this point even if all information of nazarick were to be leaked to the new world there's nothing they can do to stop them, PDL is the strongest enemy and he isn't even really a threat to nazarick, he can't even win against a lvl100 and nazarick has 10 of these plus 11 WCI, the fate of the NW is sealed
Both Renners and Climb's story could be worked in as part of Nazarick's story, especially if you consider Renner's intellect. It would be a waste not to use her. And where she goes, Climb will be as well. Albedo and Demi would be stupid not to use her as a proxy ruler. Climb under the tutelage of Sebas to make him into a killing machine (to better protect Renners) would be amazing to see.
I don't think she wants to rule, that's not the deal she made. She wants a safe sanctuary for her and Climb where she can do whatever she wants with him and that's in Nazarick. They can still make use of her intellect about the world though.
@@ArchonSG1 Ainz will do what he thinks the guardians would feel is best for Nazarick. That's the kind of person he is. So, forcing a job into someone after promising them their reward is a bad example, so he most likely won't do it. Although, I can see him offering Renner the job and promising another reward instead of just altering the deal or forcing her directly.
@@pepethefrog6809 Yeah, that is a more likely thing Ainz would do, or at the very least butter up the alternative more by promising ways to bind Climb deeper to Renner. Pretty sure she'll jump at that and see the advantage in having power in Ainz service than just one living under his suffrage.
To a leader utilising subordinates well and leading effectively while giving the subordinates the appreciation and trust they desire is the most important thing. More important than extremely high intelligence or military talent - because he has people for that, multiple people who throw plans back and forth between each other to evaluate them. One big Planner would be a problem, but several,with him making the final decision while also giving a clear direction to them, a goal to work towards, is a perfectly normal and reasonable way of leading. Ainz always felt he was not good enough to be guild leader, too, but he was made guild leader instead of more charismatic other members after they failed at that job and he succeeded! He turned a bunch of unpopular character options into an entire games' ultimate end boss scenario that was never conquered even when the game was at its most popular point, when his teammates were a bunch of irregular idiots who chose unpopular and literally evil aligned races (even in the game settings they were evil) to live out fantasies they couldn't in real life - and nobody except him could have prevented them from dissolving into utter chaos with each doing their own thing only. So Ainz is a great leader, just not in the way many characters assume.
Ainz is one of those people who have the talent to manage people. He knows when not to interfere cause his instincts tell him not to and only does so when it bothers him.
@@Kilometoru Good movies/shows are made by a litany of experts in their chosen fields; production, costume, sound designers, cinematographers, etc. who are either very talented or knowledgeable. Yet one person, who simply can't be as knowledgeable in any of those disciplines, ultimately makes ALL the decisions - the director. So a good director keeps the sum of all the parts in mind, the overall bigger picture, and while listening to their experts makes a *slight* adjustment here and there (if necessary) while still allowing the experts to be the experts of any given part of the production. Example: Ains pulls Demiurge back from just rounding up civilians all Willy-nilly to take back to the tomb and tells him to only use the wicked and those who are actively opposing them. That's not the kind of reputation he wants for the tomb nor the kind of nation he wants to build.
I haven't read the LN but I could see her potentially messing up and getting executed. She's tortured and killed other girls who have even looked at Climb in a way she doesn't like, and Nazarick has a lot of maids. While most probably wouldn't react, Tsuare has met Climb before. So forget Climb and Sebas meeting again, look out for Climb and Tsuare.
Sebas would probably kill them if they hurt Tsuare. Or, if Ainz wants them alive, make sure they can’t walk. Though, he’ll probably hesitate a bit on Climb.
I don't think the Homunculi would fall in love with someone. They're just there to serve the Nazarick and nothing more, unless the author would make some plot to for the maid to think about themselves rather what they were program to.
Most likely Albedo and Demi would tell her not to because Tsuare is under protection on the name of Ains. Hurting Tsuare is like spitting in Ains' face.
The scene that I want to see is if brain see Sebas serving Ainz as that would be a shock for him that the man that he thought a strong old man and a friend would be serving the one that he wanted to kill
albedo and demi iq is like 190 to 210 and ains ooal gown iq is like 130 to like 175 not on there level but smarter than most people and able to trick them into thinking that he is smarter than them and everyone else
She knows aniz true power and she got what she wanted which is climb that's all she wanted and there's nothing else she needs. And her old life that would have been unacceptable because the climb was a commenter and people were to talk bad about her especially him so the betraying her on Kingdom benefit her
Ains is a guild leader after all and as a magician on the game his specializes in tactics and item efficient except the error he did on his fight with his guardian
I would agree she very likely will remain loyal, but she's probably already figured out he was not the evil genius his minions think he is. But she got what she wanted, a wounded, helpless Climb and a safe room to keep him in/be adored by him in.
It’s not that she will likely will remain loyal but she has to show her loyalty because as someone as smart as her she knows that if she slips up , her so called life would be over in an instant after all she made albedo very angry without how she used ainz in her little play to fool climb , she thinks because of ainzs actions were calculated and he knew her true thoughts she could no longer hide anything and would need to offer them a leach to make prove her worth
I doubt that she has figured ainz out. There’s nothing that she sees about ainz that points to him not being the genius Demiurge and Albedo says he is. Maybe if she interacts more with ainz and notices some irregularities but she doesn’t see ainz often enough and she has no reason to suspect ainz
No, she didn't. There is a dialogue in vol 14 where she is basically terrified to the point of shivering whenever she thinks about Ainz, the "sorceror king". She genuinely believes that the reason that he participated in playing the "joker/jester" was because he KNEW she was going to do all of that and basically wanted to show up to demonstrate that he knew all of this all along. That he saw through everything that she was going, and KNEW she wasn't displaying her full potential to him. Therefore, it was basically, in her mind that he was subtlely telling her, "I know you aren't showing me everything that you can do, stop fucking around and devote yourself fully." She also believes that he did this knowing that Albedo would get pissed off, as she herself admits that if someone she cared about was forced to humiliate themselves as Ainz did, she wouldn't be happy at all, and therefore all of the goodwill that she had built up with Albedo after Ainz role played as the "evil overlord" had "dried up", basically, that she was on thin ice. Lol. It's so fucking insane that he was able to do that to not only Jircniv with showing up to fight the Martial Lord, but also Renner, two of the smartest New Worlders by sheer happenstance.
I still say rener and climb are going to become either stand ins as ainz albeto or mormon and albedo, where theyll take over nazarick as mormon and albedo slip to the shadows or go in hiding
i don't think there is much relationship to dive into between ainz and renner, even if she does deduce he's only acting as a competent leader, she can't really do much since even though ainz's act is a bluff, his power and pvp exp far outweighs whatever adavantage exposing his act will ever have
Not likely , she has a role as a area guardian similar and her purpose would not be used in the battle field but her intelligence in politics or at least working as a government official
@@YourRatOverlord Nah, I don't think so, I think she'll be staying in Nazarick with Climb, maybe at most she'll try to help around and prove she still has value beyond what she already did to make sure she can keep Climb and herself in Nazarick, where she recognizes as probably the safest place anyone can be in.
@@pepethefrog6809 100% She’s also an IMP now so if nazarick abandons her she has no friends and can’t reconnect with humans, She’s happy as fuck with her little puppy so she’ll try show her worth however she can
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I have to say ive seen a theory about every character potentially betraying Ainz...
However i dont think anyone will betray him. At best Albedo could go a bit more crazy and do something stupid or someone could get brainwashed again but no betraials imo.
Also i hate the fact they decided to make Renner and Demi meeting offscreen. First time i watched it i was genuwinely confused how and when tf that happened
Specially after how Volume 14 ended, Yeah Renner is Satisfied, she Ain't betraying Nazarik any time soon
@@davidsamudio3899 how could she even betray nazarick, there's a shadow demon with her all the time, everything she did nazarick knew
@@jdelmo7001 also, she is really weak and the best she could do would be to leak information about nazarik, which would basically seal her death for good
@@econ347 yeah at this point even if all information of nazarick were to be leaked to the new world there's nothing they can do to stop them, PDL is the strongest enemy and he isn't even really a threat to nazarick, he can't even win against a lvl100 and nazarick has 10 of these plus 11 WCI, the fate of the NW is sealed
@@jdelmo7001 good to hear!
Both Renners and Climb's story could be worked in as part of Nazarick's story, especially if you consider Renner's intellect. It would be a waste not to use her. And where she goes, Climb will be as well. Albedo and Demi would be stupid not to use her as a proxy ruler. Climb under the tutelage of Sebas to make him into a killing machine (to better protect Renners) would be amazing to see.
I don't think she wants to rule, that's not the deal she made. She wants a safe sanctuary for her and Climb where she can do whatever she wants with him and that's in Nazarick. They can still make use of her intellect about the world though.
@@pepethefrog6809
Nazarick will do what is best for Zazarick.
I can see Ains go "I have altered the deal..." 😁
@@ArchonSG1 Ainz will do what he thinks the guardians would feel is best for Nazarick. That's the kind of person he is. So, forcing a job into someone after promising them their reward is a bad example, so he most likely won't do it. Although, I can see him offering Renner the job and promising another reward instead of just altering the deal or forcing her directly.
@@pepethefrog6809
Yeah, that is a more likely thing Ainz would do, or at the very least butter up the alternative more by promising ways to bind Climb deeper to Renner. Pretty sure she'll jump at that and see the advantage in having power in Ainz service than just one living under his suffrage.
To a leader utilising subordinates well and leading effectively while giving the subordinates the appreciation and trust they desire is the most important thing. More important than extremely high intelligence or military talent - because he has people for that, multiple people who throw plans back and forth between each other to evaluate them. One big Planner would be a problem, but several,with him making the final decision while also giving a clear direction to them, a goal to work towards, is a perfectly normal and reasonable way of leading.
Ainz always felt he was not good enough to be guild leader, too, but he was made guild leader instead of more charismatic other members after they failed at that job and he succeeded! He turned a bunch of unpopular character options into an entire games' ultimate end boss scenario that was never conquered even when the game was at its most popular point, when his teammates were a bunch of irregular idiots who chose unpopular and literally evil aligned races (even in the game settings they were evil) to live out fantasies they couldn't in real life - and nobody except him could have prevented them from dissolving into utter chaos with each doing their own thing only.
So Ainz is a great leader, just not in the way many characters assume.
Ainz is one of those people who have the talent to manage people. He knows when not to interfere cause his instincts tell him not to and only does so when it bothers him.
I think ainz is unknowingly intelligent , casue of his stats?
sebas and climb interreaction would be amazing to see.
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Na more evil-eye is needed
@@Espiritu_Analysis It's out! And the elf king's a dick.
Careful with spoilers bro
Um is this a spoiler?
What Ains is doing is *exactly* what every good director does.
What's that? What does a good director do?
@@Kilometoru Good movies/shows are made by a litany of experts in their chosen fields; production, costume, sound designers, cinematographers, etc. who are either very talented or knowledgeable. Yet one person, who simply can't be as knowledgeable in any of those disciplines, ultimately makes ALL the decisions - the director.
So a good director keeps the sum of all the parts in mind, the overall bigger picture, and while listening to their experts makes a *slight* adjustment here and there (if necessary) while still allowing the experts to be the experts of any given part of the production.
Example: Ains pulls Demiurge back from just rounding up civilians all Willy-nilly to take back to the tomb and tells him to only use the wicked and those who are actively opposing them. That's not the kind of reputation he wants for the tomb nor the kind of nation he wants to build.
@@WillWilsonthesafetyguy ahhhh I get it, it'a similar to what a conductor does. Thanks for the explanation man, that clears things up
I haven't read the LN but I could see her potentially messing up and getting executed.
She's tortured and killed other girls who have even looked at Climb in a way she doesn't like, and Nazarick has a lot of maids. While most probably wouldn't react, Tsuare has met Climb before.
So forget Climb and Sebas meeting again, look out for Climb and Tsuare.
Sebas would probably kill them if they hurt Tsuare. Or, if Ainz wants them alive, make sure they can’t walk. Though, he’ll probably hesitate a bit on Climb.
I don't think the Homunculi would fall in love with someone. They're just there to serve the Nazarick and nothing more, unless the author would make some plot to for the maid to think about themselves rather what they were program to.
@@franzmikolan4109 It is not about if they would fall for Climb but if Renee's would overreact to them being around him.
Most likely Albedo and Demi would tell her not to because Tsuare is under protection on the name of Ains. Hurting Tsuare is like spitting in Ains' face.
Though it would be interesting to see climb interact with Sebas, I doubt anyone will let that happen if they know about their previous interactions
I heard renner is author's favorite character, so I expect more story about her when she is in nazaric.
The scene that I want to see is if brain see Sebas serving Ainz as that would be a shock for him that the man that he thought a strong old man and a friend would be serving the one that he wanted to kill
Id love to see how Renner and Climb live in Nazarick and their interactions toward others
Especially Sebas and the maid
I hope Brain also gets revived and joins them.
albedo and demi is a genius and ains ooal gown is not a genius but hes smart enough to keep up with these two geniuses he not a idiot
albedo and demi iq is like 190 to 210 and ains ooal gown iq is like 130 to like 175 not on there level but smarter than most people and able to trick them into thinking that he is smarter than them and everyone else
I hope her arc is not over
And we see more of them in vol 15 or 16
I want to see her to use her high intel in future campaigns
Renner is too smart to betray ainz
She knows aniz true power and she got what she wanted which is climb that's all she wanted and there's nothing else she needs.
And her old life that would have been unacceptable because the climb was a commenter and people were to talk bad about her especially him so the betraying her on Kingdom benefit her
Renner relationship with Ainzs is very charmy.
@1 punch man *-*
Not really a relationship between Renner and Ainzs.
The real relationship is Albedo and Renner.
@1 punch man *-*
Deep friendship.
@1 punch man *-* More of a "kindred souls" kind of relationship, they would mostly talk about their obsessions or "love".
Ains is a guild leader after all and as a magician on the game his specializes in tactics and item efficient except the error he did on his fight with his guardian
he wasnt just a guild leader
he was the leader of one of the top Guilds
I would agree she very likely will remain loyal, but she's probably already figured out he was not the evil genius his minions think he is. But she got what she wanted, a wounded, helpless Climb and a safe room to keep him in/be adored by him in.
It’s not that she will likely will remain loyal but she has to show her loyalty because as someone as smart as her she knows that if she slips up , her so called life would be over in an instant after all she made albedo very angry without how she used ainz in her little play to fool climb , she thinks because of ainzs actions were calculated and he knew her true thoughts she could no longer hide anything and would need to offer them a leach to make prove her worth
I doubt that she has figured ainz out. There’s nothing that she sees about ainz that points to him not being the genius Demiurge and Albedo says he is. Maybe if she interacts more with ainz and notices some irregularities but she doesn’t see ainz often enough and she has no reason to suspect ainz
@@be6386 agree
@@user-_o Agreed, they haven't met enough for her to build something concrete. And I doubt she will think much of it.
No, she didn't. There is a dialogue in vol 14 where she is basically terrified to the point of shivering whenever she thinks about Ainz, the "sorceror king". She genuinely believes that the reason that he participated in playing the "joker/jester" was because he KNEW she was going to do all of that and basically wanted to show up to demonstrate that he knew all of this all along. That he saw through everything that she was going, and KNEW she wasn't displaying her full potential to him. Therefore, it was basically, in her mind that he was subtlely telling her, "I know you aren't showing me everything that you can do, stop fucking around and devote yourself fully." She also believes that he did this knowing that Albedo would get pissed off, as she herself admits that if someone she cared about was forced to humiliate themselves as Ainz did, she wouldn't be happy at all, and therefore all of the goodwill that she had built up with Albedo after Ainz role played as the "evil overlord" had "dried up", basically, that she was on thin ice.
Lol. It's so fucking insane that he was able to do that to not only Jircniv with showing up to fight the Martial Lord, but also Renner, two of the smartest New Worlders by sheer happenstance.
renner can't betray nazarick cause the moment she does the shadow or demon in her shadow would instantly kill her
Ainz's true strength is the power to delegate.
And the ability to shut up and let others talk themselves into a corner.
I still say rener and climb are going to become either stand ins as ainz albeto or mormon and albedo, where theyll take over nazarick as mormon and albedo slip to the shadows or go in hiding
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Tabula-san would've loved Renner
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moral is that all isekai princess are crazy
i don't think there is much relationship to dive into between ainz and renner, even if she does deduce he's only acting as a competent leader, she can't really do much since even though ainz's act is a bluff, his power and pvp exp far outweighs whatever adavantage exposing his act will ever have
I think we will see her take on the role similar to the battle maids.
Not likely , she has a role as a area guardian similar and her purpose would not be used in the battle field but her intelligence in politics or at least working as a government official
But isnt the central issue her social position
0:54 demiurge and albedo are NOT supreme beings
Any release date for the following volumes?
Vol 15 should be released on June 30
Will she rule the kingdom now?
what kingdom?
Her kingdom was destroyed
@@defiantjorden621 I know, but will she rule those nobles that are left?
@@YourRatOverlord Nah, I don't think so, I think she'll be staying in Nazarick with Climb, maybe at most she'll try to help around and prove she still has value beyond what she already did to make sure she can keep Climb and herself in Nazarick, where she recognizes as probably the safest place anyone can be in.
@@pepethefrog6809 100% She’s also an IMP now so if nazarick abandons her she has no friends and can’t reconnect with humans, She’s happy as fuck with her little puppy so she’ll try show her worth however she can