Why do I get the feeling that after recording these you push a button and the wall opens up, and there, behind bullet proof glass in a hermetically sealed climate controlled robe humidor (rumoured to be of qualude feuled Hugh Hefner design) is a red velvet robe. After robing up and shooting your cuffs two security guards open a door with a gargoyle peep hole and instantly you are flanked by the beautiful and interesting people. Another gargoyle door and you walk in, nod to Barry White at the piano and then the real after dark begins...
It's like if God wanted to explain sound to man and thought I'm gonna need a Jesus Two point O to get this stuff across to them. And then God created Gregory Scott. And he did look upon his creation, and did send him upon the earth. And he did educate man that there was a reason he made him with two ears and one mouth. And man did understand "oh I'm meant to listen twice as much as I talk. I get ya". Then God thought, mmm tomorrow's Sunday. I reckon I'll have the day off.
Once again, Gregory is shoveling the gold out the door for free. It's the stuff like this that makes an instant difference in how I RELATE to the music, not just how I hear it. Also, a big "YES, PLEASE" to the idea of a whole episode on making that bass sound good.
OMG!! - I haven't heard this spoken of in a long long time - and I still do that in the digital age. I had only just started in the late 80s early 90s - and the guy who I saw do that technique was none other than.... Brian Eno. I was brought into a school that had won lottery funding as a music teacher with "some" skills in mixing to help launch a lottery funded music department with recording studio.... the guy who designed it was Brian Eno. I saw him do that very technique and whilst he didn't explain it as brilliantly as you just did - he said "you gotta feel the beat as well as hear it" .... awesome!!!
This channel has a wealth of great info. You’re constantly covering angles of production that I’ve never heard anyone else discuss. I’ve been mixing for about 20 years and never learned this technique. Thanks for all you do man and keep up the awesome videos
Usually I take your advice seriously and listen to your videos analytically, but this is on another level. You, my friend, are giving real value with these videos and I hope more people will notice it. Thank you a lot for this pure gold!
If the end result sounds good it absolutely doesn't matter how you reached it. You can even put your butt against the rubber surrounding of the woofer and this way achieved the most amazing kick+bass relation ever heard by human kind. However I advise you to watch out who you tell this original mixing technique to. 😂 Bottomline(Pun intented): If you have good trained ears, NOTHING matters. Nobody's ever going to know what plugins you used on what and if the plugins were even intented for that sound. Use plugins on sounds they were not intended for. It makes for the most interesting creative sounds. Let all restrictions go and make some art. 😉
Man, you're freaking owning it with your whole attitude like it was the most natural thing in the world to do. Right from the start. Like: What? You've never touched your woofers while mixing? Really? Ya man. You're my man. I love your videos.
Dude this tip literally changed how I mix my low ends. It really works wonders. Can't thank you enough for content like this. The best channel I've come across in years.
I've done the "feeling the speaker" trick for decades now and everyone looks at me like I'm insane. I've always sworn that I can feel the details in the transient of the kick and snare better than I can hear it. Especially after listening for more than 15 minutes straight imo. Also feeling the air flow from the ports if you have ported speakers. An overly loud sub freq will result in an obscene and disproportionate volume of air coming out of the ports even though you may not hear the freqs themselves. A well mixed low end usually will make the air coming out feel like its resonating with the key of the song.
In all the years I have been on this mixing journey I have never encountered this way of thinking/visualising, let alone sensing, the kick/bass relationship. And in just a few short minutes of Kush-Time my mind is expanded, my eyes and senses are opened some more, and my morale and enthusiasm gets a boost of excitement. I can’t wait to try this out!! Once again I want to say a huge thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience. 🙏👍
It's amazing how much you can highpass that kick and still have it wallop. For setting level, I'll send just the kick and snare through the mixbuss compressor, hitting both at equal amounts. Then bring in the bass with the kick and do the same thing. After that, start moving up the highpass until the kick feels tight and out of the way of the sub of the bass; like you, sometimes up as high as 50-60hz. At that point, the groove of the kick is enhancing and playing nicely with both the bass and the snare. I haven't tried the finger trick, though. It's now on my to-do list for tomorrow!
Mixing is art and science mixed together. I learned from an old school guy who cut his teeth in the 70's and 80's. Your educational approach reminds me so much of him.
I don't think I've ever believed anything anyone has ever said as much as I believed you with the way you delivered the line, "...that's a really deep 808" at 1:54!! Great work, as always.
Oh man, what a game changer. I started feeling the speaker and I saw instantly how the kick was fucking with the continuity of the bassline. I tucked it back an RCH and suddenly the kick was supporting the bassline and BOOM, the groove was happening! Thanks for this man. Pure gold
Thank you so much Gregory for being our mentor! Unlike many other TH-camrs, who repeat the same crappy advice over and over and even charging money for that. You provide a very unique perspective on mixing and you do so for free. You sir have my greatest respect! PS: Maybe you can do some sort of a collaboration with Warren Huart, who is also an excellent teacher here on YT. Would love to see that :)
🤣 At this point I leave that in just to annoy my 3D guy, he writes about once a week to beg me to replace it with his UHD 6k Rec.7020 render-farm pile of glossy corporate perfection , "no charge, just take it!!" I think my productions/mixes are kinda the same, I got a lo-fi hi-fi kinda ear so things that are polished smooth coexist comfortably with things that are weirdly janky. Life is good! 🕺
Wow, lessons like these are just gold. Funny, I just noticed someone else below thought the same thing! This is my second or third listen, but it's making more sense now that I've heard a big kick demolish the low end of my last mix in the car test. That excessive excursion just holds everything else hostage until the kick settles back, and if your song is uptempo, you just have no low end. Only a massive lonely kick pushing out everything below 1k. Thanks, Gregory!!
The whole after hours series are great, but this video contains the single most useful piece of information I 've learned in the last fifteen years. Almost life changing for me. Thank you so much.
I can't explain how good your plug-ins are. I played around with them today for the first time and I'm glad I paid for the subscription. I was about to drop over a grand on a plug-in bundle. I'm glad I didn't. I mixed a song that took me at least two days last time in about thirty minutes. I'm seriously shocked. I am in no way an authority on this stuff. Hell, half the time I'm just turning knobs and shit. But your plug-ins are powerful in my opinion. I can't wait to dig in on these. Cheers!
DUDE!! thanks yet AGAIN! whoop whoop, why is it that in all my years of education from pro's and actual experience.. you still bring the most sense to this whole mixing gig than anyone else ever has?
A while back, I was at a studio. It was in use and boss man asked me to master a bunch of tracks to "level them out". Couldn't work there because I needed a quiet space. Went home and just had some ilouds and jbl's to get the job done. No money for more gear, so this had to do. Ended up using my fingers over the jbl foam and the ports on the ilouds to 'feel' whats happening, especially against reference tracks, and they ended up absolutely loving the balance I came up with. Saved me big time, and I learned a lot. Glad to see I wasn't completely insane, or full of crap. Thanks kush!
Thank you once again for a clear focus on the important stuff. A good reminder that sound is vibration. If it isn't tactile and working as a physical thing then it will never sound right to the tiny little receivers in our ears
Man, your videos are so fucking informative! It’s hard getting good foundation when you’re self taught and you find yourself making a heap of shit sounding mistakes that are just simply rooted in lack of foundation. Thanks for these videos!
Brilliant video...I’d completely forgot about this tip. I got taught this back in the 90s but as I got older I got lazier and stopped doing it I’m gonna start doing it again
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I don't have a usable room yet unfortunately but I still listened all the way through, man, these things you're talking about are amazing! Thank you!
I really dig that "two finger" technique"! That's why I like a tight " clicky" kick sound. Your high pass advise is great also. I usually do high pass my drum bus with a slight bell filter bump depending on what kick sound I'm using. And I love your channel! Please keep this great stuff coming!
I was in a situation for a while where I couldn't use my subwoofer at night because it would bother neighbors/roommates... but I NEEDED to mix. I took a cheap speaker out of a $10 Bluetooth boombox, removed the cone material, wired it through a small amp and a lowpass filter (slopes around 80 - 120 hz) and bolted it to the frame at the bottom of my chair. It's called a tactile transducer, or "bass ahaker." The result is that you can feel the bass as a vibration in your chair,. This tricks the perception into feeling like you are listening on a large commercial system, but no one else can hear the bass. To anyone not in the chair, it just sounds like there's no bass in the mix. At night when I had to be quiet, I would put on some good headphones and turn on the bass shaker, and managed to create an awesome mixing environment for myself that completely bypasses the need for acoustically treating the room for bass pockets etc. Your tip here reminded me of that, and I can attest that you know what the f you are talking about and then some. I highly recommend building (or buying) a tactile transducer for any studio as another method of referencing the bass mix. There's a really good commercial version called the 'sub pac.' I just built mine from an old cheap speaker, some speaker wire, some dirt cheap op amp chips for that I pulled out of scrap electronics for the amp, a few resistors and capacitors for the filter, and a 12volt wall wart with a stripped wire to provide power... total cost of the whole thing was maybe $3 and a couple hours of time.
Discovered your channel a few days ago. Thanks for this great in depth knowledge... By far the best production content out there. And all of this for FREE! Thank you mate and keep up this great work!
This is what I do but with a peak/distortion perspective. As the music I do is supposed to be played at high levels, I tend to insert a gain in the master output and crank the shit out of it in order to understand whats really making the sound distort at high levels. Usually I have the same movement sensation on the subs. What moves/distorts further from a certain point usually its what needs to be corrected or enhanced.
This is interesting. I just got myself a Subpac after struggling to hear bass properly in my space. I found myself naturally/instinctively applying the same principles. The Subpac is a great thing. I know it looks a bit gimmicky, but it's so, so useful for knowing what's happening in the low-end and how the kick and bass can fight each other.
My whole mix game transformed when I realized it’s not really engineering music but engineering speaker behavior, and low end is all about how air escapes the speaker. Too much sustain on the kick completely messes up the ability of the bass to move properly. This touching thing seems like a cool trick. I’m also interested in that HP on the drum bus, gonna try that! Top as always!
I'm gonna be honest, when I had been taught this by my mentor (who came up in the 90's) I was always self conscious about doing it. Like it was weird. This has been a life saver in my untreated room while money is a bit tight for sound correction. Thanks for the killer free advice and wisdom in general!
I heard an interview with Krust and thats exactly how he said they mixed their bass in the 80's when using cheap gear. I didn't understand it at the time, but now I do
my montiors have poor low end and my room sucks, so i use alot of plugins like tonal balance control to visually check my low end, but this is Amazing, best advice ive heard in years. smooth voice guy delivers again.
So freaking helpful! With a home studio and neighbours I've been have such a hard time feeling the low end clearly. Loved the idea of the subpak for the tactile sub info but this trick is so simple and so effective! THANK YOU!
On maschine mk2, for example, there is a distance adjustment and the like, as soon as you release one bass and the moment you release a kick, you start to move one farther or closer, there is also an attack.....
Definitely right about being able to feel the bass and about a kick being able to mess up the groove of the bassline. I usually avoid this by using a makeshift sidechain like ducking feature where whenever the kick hits, it automatically ducks the bassline at 50hz. Then I play with the decay and intensity. This works very well for Traditional BoomBap HipHop but im not sure how effective it would be for other genres.
I have a pair of Neumann KH120s that have a metal grill over the woofer, no matter how much I try I can't feel anything! 😜 Back in the late 80's I bought my first pair of pro speakers, of course they were the Yamaha NS-10's, and of course I heard about two tricks when using them. The first is the one Gregory talks about, the second was taping a tissue over the tweeter. I was just starting out so I just blindly followed the crowd, which to be honest I still do today! Great content as usually Gregory!!
Very interesting. I just used this "technic" when I started this whole craziness. I didn't know anything about frequencies or anything but I knew that I can feel it. But it was just a short, soft touch on the speaker. Good to hear this 20 years later from him! :-)
@@kongregant8100 in Ableton, on the right side you have some options: to hide/show the mixer, hide/show the input output, hide/show send & returns, etc...- you will also see in that section a “D” letter. By default, this “D” isn’t engaged when you open Ableton. Just press it and under each channel fader you will see “Track Delay”. Now drag the 0.00 value with the mouse and you can shift the whole track back & forth in miliseconds. Hope you understand now.
Dang! This is an awesome tip. Just used it on a mix and discovered my low end was so weak in comparison to my reference! love your videos and how you explain without using a DAW! flippen learn so much! Thank you for sharing your knowledge 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
I am facepalming, and saying "ooooooooooh my gosh" throughout your videos - Ive not been able to learn these on my own, and no one covers this kind of "feeling" the music... in this case literally. Thanks man, you rock - looking forward to the next video
Such great teaching ability. Wish I had you at uni. Or found you years ago before I went uni. These subtleties have been so great for me. So thank you.
This...has just blown my mind in so many ways. I am so tired of screwing up the bass. Any pearls of wisdom are as gold to me. Thank you for this channel, it has been tremendously helpful. I'm sure my mixes still suck, but they suck a little less every time because of this channel, and a couple of others. But mostly this one. We're lucky to have you out here delivering the goods.
Why do I get the feeling that after recording these you push a button and the wall opens up, and there, behind bullet proof glass in a hermetically sealed climate controlled robe humidor (rumoured to be of qualude feuled Hugh Hefner design) is a red velvet robe.
After robing up and shooting your cuffs two security guards open a door with a gargoyle peep hole and instantly you are flanked by the beautiful and interesting people.
Another gargoyle door and you walk in, nod to Barry White at the piano and then the real after dark begins...
😂😂😂
That's freaking excellent. I can see it now!!
hahaha dude... 100%. I just get the feeling that UBK knows how to party.
Amazing comment, hahaha. I've definitely gotten that vibe, but on the other hand, he could also just be an easy going pot-loving surfer dude.
The-Dream - That’s My Shit ft. T.I.
Gregory remains the king of painfully useful advice.
Not to mention painfully handsome :)
@@CalvinArsenia gotta love him for it all
The only person I watch who dont even show the daw ✊🏾✊🏾 you have to listen and understand.
Well said
Holy shit bruh, That never dawned on me... whoa
This is so fucking good holy shit. Best mixing channel on TH-cam, and has been for a while.
I think you're fucking correct... :)
Totes fucking true... :-p
Amen. This is the ONLY channel I bother to recommend to others.
It's like if God wanted to explain sound to man and thought I'm gonna need a Jesus Two point O to get this stuff across to them. And then God created Gregory Scott. And he did look upon his creation, and did send him upon the earth. And he did educate man that there was a reason he made him with two ears and one mouth. And man did understand "oh I'm meant to listen twice as much as I talk. I get ya". Then God thought, mmm tomorrow's Sunday. I reckon I'll have the day off.
Fucking Agreed!
Once again, Gregory is shoveling the gold out the door for free. It's the stuff like this that makes an instant difference in how I RELATE to the music, not just how I hear it. Also, a big "YES, PLEASE" to the idea of a whole episode on making that bass sound good.
If this guy had a TH-cam channel, I’d be a subscriber.
🤔
@@AEA_909😂
OMG!! - I haven't heard this spoken of in a long long time - and I still do that in the digital age. I had only just started in the late 80s early 90s - and the guy who I saw do that technique was none other than.... Brian Eno. I was brought into a school that had won lottery funding as a music teacher with "some" skills in mixing to help launch a lottery funded music department with recording studio.... the guy who designed it was Brian Eno. I saw him do that very technique and whilst he didn't explain it as brilliantly as you just did - he said "you gotta feel the beat as well as hear it" .... awesome!!!
cool story 🤘
Did he put sugar on your tongue?
This channel has a wealth of great info. You’re constantly covering angles of production that I’ve never heard anyone else discuss. I’ve been mixing for about 20 years and never learned this technique. Thanks for all you do man and keep up the awesome videos
I appreciate that!
Same here! I mix for an international label...but when noone looks, I crawl under the desk to watch After Hours.
Usually I take your advice seriously and listen to your videos analytically, but this is on another level. You, my friend, are giving real value with these videos and I hope more people will notice it. Thank you a lot for this pure gold!
First time hearing a Gregory Scott's video after having a beer. I'm scared.
Have mercy Mix Jesus
I've naturally always done this and thought I was "wrong" for not only using my ears! Thank you for making me feel like I'm not mad!
Same here!
If the end result sounds good it absolutely doesn't matter how you reached it. You can even put your butt against the rubber surrounding of the woofer and this way achieved the most amazing kick+bass relation ever heard by human kind. However I advise you to watch out who you tell this original mixing technique to. 😂 Bottomline(Pun intented): If you have good trained ears, NOTHING matters. Nobody's ever going to know what plugins you used on what and if the plugins were even intented for that sound. Use plugins on sounds they were not intended for. It makes for the most interesting creative sounds. Let all restrictions go and make some art. 😉
Same! I referenced pro songs and try to match the "movement" of the woofer with my own mixes!
I do this too but I didn’t have a reason until now
Someone told me this years ago, and really helped me a lot. I always recommend it to others. Love this channel.
Between him and Marc Daniel Nelson - the charisma, audio knowledge (& hair) is on another level!
Mixing is as much about technicality as it is about philosophy. Pure gold, as usual...
No doubt!
Best mixing channel on the internet. Thank you.
Man, you're freaking owning it with your whole attitude like it was the most natural thing in the world to do. Right from the start. Like: What? You've never touched your woofers while mixing? Really? Ya man. You're my man. I love your videos.
Dude this tip literally changed how I mix my low ends. It really works wonders. Can't thank you enough for content like this. The best channel I've come across in years.
I've done the "feeling the speaker" trick for decades now and everyone looks at me like I'm insane. I've always sworn that I can feel the details in the transient of the kick and snare better than I can hear it. Especially after listening for more than 15 minutes straight imo. Also feeling the air flow from the ports if you have ported speakers. An overly loud sub freq will result in an obscene and disproportionate volume of air coming out of the ports even though you may not hear the freqs themselves. A well mixed low end usually will make the air coming out feel like its resonating with the key of the song.
What I love about Greg's advice. There is no right or wrong. It's how it makes you feel that's important.
life hacking the kick/drum relationship, with 2 fingers... true gold ! As usual.
I did this intuitively before I got a Subpac. But it's a priceless technique and skill
Great tip as always!
Using a SubPac could be 2010's alternative to this trick.
7:03 - This! This advise right here is one of the more versatile tricks that can be applied in many areas where success is needed.
This trick is the most After Hours thing I've seen on the channel.
Hallelujah!!!! Teacher teach us more!!
In all the years I have been on this mixing journey I have never encountered this way of thinking/visualising, let alone sensing, the kick/bass relationship. And in just a few short minutes of Kush-Time my mind is expanded, my eyes and senses are opened some more, and my morale and enthusiasm gets a boost of excitement. I can’t wait to try this out!! Once again I want to say a huge thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience. 🙏👍
It's amazing how much you can highpass that kick and still have it wallop. For setting level, I'll send just the kick and snare through the mixbuss compressor, hitting both at equal amounts. Then bring in the bass with the kick and do the same thing. After that, start moving up the highpass until the kick feels tight and out of the way of the sub of the bass; like you, sometimes up as high as 50-60hz. At that point, the groove of the kick is enhancing and playing nicely with both the bass and the snare.
I haven't tried the finger trick, though. It's now on my to-do list for tomorrow!
I read this trick in an audio book but was never able to completely understand and apply it, now it all makes sense to me, thanks for putting it out.
These are Jedi Mixing skills being shared with the world out of sheer love for music. :rockon:
Forget being a national treasure, you're a planetary treasure!
Galactic, no, Universal treasure
I remember this back then., Visual response of the cone. Building blocks in relation. Great lesson as always.
Mixing is art and science mixed together. I learned from an old school guy who cut his teeth in the 70's and 80's. Your educational approach reminds me so much of him.
Thank you bass god Owen Wilson you keep saving my mixes one vid at a time 🙏🙏🙏
I don't think I've ever believed anything anyone has ever said as much as I believed you with the way you delivered the line, "...that's a really deep 808" at 1:54!! Great work, as always.
This guy's in touch.
Oh man, what a game changer. I started feeling the speaker and I saw instantly how the kick was fucking with the continuity of the bassline. I tucked it back an RCH and suddenly the kick was supporting the bassline and BOOM, the groove was happening! Thanks for this man. Pure gold
Thank you so much Gregory for being our mentor!
Unlike many other TH-camrs, who repeat the same crappy advice over and over and even charging money for that. You provide a very unique perspective on mixing and you do so for free.
You sir have my greatest respect!
PS: Maybe you can do some sort of a collaboration with Warren Huart, who is also an excellent teacher here on YT. Would love to see that :)
This video made me realize that trusting your ear shouldn't always be the case. Visual and tactile information is important too.
Thank you Gregory, you just conforted my soul
I'm gonna try this immidately with my favorite bass heavy reference tracks, to get an idea how it should feel! Thanks you for this!
Smart move!
Aw man. I practice this old school knowledge. So refreshing to hear someone actually talk about it. I'm smiling here. (Hear).
I absolutely love this channel's content but good lord the 480p logo intro and outro just catches my eye every time
🤣 At this point I leave that in just to annoy my 3D guy, he writes about once a week to beg me to replace it with his UHD 6k Rec.7020 render-farm pile of glossy corporate perfection , "no charge, just take it!!" I think my productions/mixes are kinda the same, I got a lo-fi hi-fi kinda ear so things that are polished smooth coexist comfortably with things that are weirdly janky. Life is good! 🕺
@@TheHouseofKushTV can't argue with that
Wow, lessons like these are just gold. Funny, I just noticed someone else below thought the same thing! This is my second or third listen, but it's making more sense now that I've heard a big kick demolish the low end of my last mix in the car test. That excessive excursion just holds everything else hostage until the kick settles back, and if your song is uptempo, you just have no low end. Only a massive lonely kick pushing out everything below 1k. Thanks, Gregory!!
The whole after hours series are great, but this video contains the single most useful piece of information I 've learned in the last fifteen years. Almost life changing for me. Thank you so much.
I can't explain how good your plug-ins are. I played around with them today for the first time and I'm glad I paid for the subscription. I was about to drop over a grand on a plug-in bundle. I'm glad I didn't. I mixed a song that took me at least two days last time in about thirty minutes. I'm seriously shocked. I am in no way an authority on this stuff. Hell, half the time I'm just turning knobs and shit. But your plug-ins are powerful in my opinion. I can't wait to dig in on these. Cheers!
DUDE!! thanks yet AGAIN! whoop whoop, why is it that in all my years of education from pro's and actual experience.. you still bring the most sense to this whole mixing gig than anyone else ever has?
That’s very kind of you to say! I honestly don’t know why, but I get this feedback a lot so somethings clearly going on!
I have no idea what this man is talking about but I could listen to it the entire day.
A while back, I was at a studio. It was in use and boss man asked me to master a bunch of tracks to "level them out". Couldn't work there because I needed a quiet space. Went home and just had some ilouds and jbl's to get the job done. No money for more gear, so this had to do. Ended up using my fingers over the jbl foam and the ports on the ilouds to 'feel' whats happening, especially against reference tracks, and they ended up absolutely loving the balance I came up with. Saved me big time, and I learned a lot. Glad to see I wasn't completely insane, or full of crap. Thanks kush!
Thank you once again for a clear focus on the important stuff. A good reminder that sound is vibration. If it isn't tactile and working as a physical thing then it will never sound right to the tiny little receivers in our ears
I use to do the woofer touching thing just to feel the bass but you Sir have once again given me a new perspective.
Thank you.
Gregory is pure gold!Amazing attitude and sharing knowledge in a beautifully engaging way is his trademark.
I can relate to so many things he's saying. It's so cool to see somebody expressing these ideas.
Gregory Scott is the best, that outside of the box thinking is why he's my number 1 for music production wisdom
It's a timeless technique. I did it so much with an old pair of monitors that I left an indentation in the rubber surround 😆
Man, your videos are so fucking informative! It’s hard getting good foundation when you’re self taught and you find yourself making a heap of shit sounding mistakes that are just simply rooted in lack of foundation. Thanks for these videos!
Sir Gregory we salute you
indeed, these are actually the most insightful videos on the internet. i'd love to see you go deep on what you were saying about working on the bass
Brilliant video...I’d completely forgot about this tip. I got taught this back in the 90s but as I got older I got lazier and stopped doing it I’m gonna start doing it again
I don't have a usable room yet unfortunately but I still listened all the way through, man, these things you're talking about are amazing! Thank you!
Nice, especially if you think it for a second, hearing is a tactile sense too!
I really dig that "two finger" technique"! That's why I like a tight " clicky" kick sound. Your high pass advise is great also. I usually do high pass my drum bus with a slight bell filter bump depending on what kick sound I'm using. And I love your channel! Please keep this great stuff coming!
Saw this yesterday, tried it today - amazing. Works even at relatively low volume.
Yesss the 2 finger zen ✌🏽 what also works for small rooms is a subpack to feel the bass and kick response in your back, great massage included 😆
I was in a situation for a while where I couldn't use my subwoofer at night because it would bother neighbors/roommates... but I NEEDED to mix. I took a cheap speaker out of a $10 Bluetooth boombox, removed the cone material, wired it through a small amp and a lowpass filter (slopes around 80 - 120 hz) and bolted it to the frame at the bottom of my chair. It's called a tactile transducer, or "bass ahaker." The result is that you can feel the bass as a vibration in your chair,. This tricks the perception into feeling like you are listening on a large commercial system, but no one else can hear the bass. To anyone not in the chair, it just sounds like there's no bass in the mix. At night when I had to be quiet, I would put on some good headphones and turn on the bass shaker, and managed to create an awesome mixing environment for myself that completely bypasses the need for acoustically treating the room for bass pockets etc. Your tip here reminded me of that, and I can attest that you know what the f you are talking about and then some.
I highly recommend building (or buying) a tactile transducer for any studio as another method of referencing the bass mix. There's a really good commercial version called the 'sub pac.' I just built mine from an old cheap speaker, some speaker wire, some dirt cheap op amp chips for that I pulled out of scrap electronics for the amp, a few resistors and capacitors for the filter, and a 12volt wall wart with a stripped wire to provide power... total cost of the whole thing was maybe $3 and a couple hours of time.
Discovered your channel a few days ago. Thanks for this great in depth knowledge... By far the best production content out there. And all of this for FREE!
Thank you mate and keep up this great work!
This is what I do but with a peak/distortion perspective. As the music I do is supposed to be played at high levels, I tend to insert a gain in the master output and crank the shit out of it in order to understand whats really making the sound distort at high levels. Usually I have the same movement sensation on the subs. What moves/distorts further from a certain point usually its what needs to be corrected or enhanced.
This is interesting. I just got myself a Subpac after struggling to hear bass properly in my space. I found myself naturally/instinctively applying the same principles.
The Subpac is a great thing. I know it looks a bit gimmicky, but it's so, so useful for knowing what's happening in the low-end and how the kick and bass can fight each other.
Very nice!
Love your out of the box approach..... Its so ON the box. ;)
Great Advice.... next mix, I'll be fondling,
My whole mix game transformed when I realized it’s not really engineering music but engineering speaker behavior, and low end is all about how air escapes the speaker. Too much sustain on the kick completely messes up the ability of the bass to move properly. This touching thing seems like a cool trick. I’m also interested in that HP on the drum bus, gonna try that! Top as always!
I'm gonna be honest, when I had been taught this by my mentor (who came up in the 90's) I was always self conscious about doing it. Like it was weird. This has been a life saver in my untreated room while money is a bit tight for sound correction. Thanks for the killer free advice and wisdom in general!
I love these videos-they teach you stuff you just don't get taught in other 'mix tutorial' videos
I heard an interview with Krust and thats exactly how he said they mixed their bass in the 80's when using cheap gear. I didn't understand it at the time, but now I do
Thank you from someone who mixes in a tiny room. Now I don't have to worry about my head being in the exact same location when I mix bass.
my montiors have poor low end and my room sucks, so i use alot of plugins like tonal balance control to visually check my low end, but this is Amazing, best advice ive heard in years. smooth voice guy delivers again.
So freaking helpful! With a home studio and neighbours I've been have such a hard time feeling the low end clearly. Loved the idea of the subpak for the tactile sub info but this trick is so simple and so effective! THANK YOU!
Gregory dropping gems everywhere!
On maschine mk2, for example, there is a distance adjustment and the like, as soon as you release one bass and the moment you release a kick, you start to move one farther or closer, there is also an attack.....
Definitely right about being able to feel the bass and about a kick being able to mess up the groove of the bassline. I usually avoid this by using a makeshift sidechain like ducking feature where whenever the kick hits, it automatically ducks the bassline at 50hz. Then I play with the decay and intensity. This works very well for Traditional BoomBap HipHop but im not sure how effective it would be for other genres.
Amazing trick, thank you! I also found that touching both woofers at the same time helped me better understand what's going on with stereo sub basses.
I simply love your channel. An ocean of wisdom to be honest.
The amount of learnings you’ll take home are based purely up-to how desiring you are.
I have a pair of Neumann KH120s that have a metal grill over the woofer, no matter how much I try I can't feel anything! 😜 Back in the late 80's I bought my first pair of pro speakers, of course they were the Yamaha NS-10's, and of course I heard about two tricks when using them. The first is the one Gregory talks about, the second was taping a tissue over the tweeter. I was just starting out so I just blindly followed the crowd, which to be honest I still do today! Great content as usually Gregory!!
Wow, this gives feeling the groove a whole new dimension!
Yep tried it, totally right on, love this channel!
Very true
Many engineers here in Brazil used to touch the woofers to feel it and even check the "sync" between the bass with the kick drum...
Absolutely good stuff. I mix in a low room and it’s never occurred to me to get tactile with it. Thanks Greg.
This is some true magic for sure. Thanks!
Very interesting. I just used this "technic" when I started this whole craziness. I didn't know anything about frequencies or anything but I knew that I can feel it. But it was just a short, soft touch on the speaker. Good to hear this 20 years later from him! :-)
The delay setting in Ableton makes so much sense now. (That delay build in to every channel, see the “D” sign in the bottom right of the screen)
In which way? Can you explain better?
@@kongregant8100 in Ableton, on the right side you have some options: to hide/show the mixer, hide/show the input output, hide/show send & returns, etc...- you will also see in that section a “D” letter.
By default, this “D” isn’t engaged when you open Ableton. Just press it and under each channel fader you will see “Track Delay”. Now drag the 0.00 value with the mouse and you can shift the whole track back & forth in miliseconds.
Hope you understand now.
@@pufu21 yeah I know where it is >,< I meant if you could explain why it makes more sense now
@@kongregant8100 ah, because you can easily move the kick / bass to find the sweet spot
@@pufu21 now makes sense gotta try the trick
Thank you for continuing to add to these lesions!
Excellent advice! I love all the useful tips and perspectives you give us while rarely ever looking at any sort of DAW interface .
Dang! This is an awesome tip. Just used it on a mix and discovered my low end was so weak in comparison to my reference! love your videos and how you explain without using a DAW! flippen learn so much! Thank you for sharing your knowledge 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Very useful trick, kudos to you Gregory.
I am facepalming, and saying "ooooooooooh my gosh" throughout your videos - Ive not been able to learn these on my own, and no one covers this kind of "feeling" the music... in this case literally. Thanks man, you rock - looking forward to the next video
Found this channel months ago after getting faded and wanting to learn more about mixing! Thank you so much 💀🔥🤘🏽
Such great teaching ability. Wish I had you at uni. Or found you years ago before I went uni. These subtleties have been so great for me. So thank you.
You're very welcome 😊
This...has just blown my mind in so many ways. I am so tired of screwing up the bass. Any pearls of wisdom are as gold to me. Thank you for this channel, it has been tremendously helpful. I'm sure my mixes still suck, but they suck a little less every time because of this channel, and a couple of others. But mostly this one. We're lucky to have you out here delivering the goods.
This is both esoteric and practical at the same time, I love it
You, my friend, are an amazing source of knowledge! And I could listen to you read the phone book with that voice 👏👏👏
Also if u got phaseinvertors u can monitor ultra low freq as well. And use it as a reference.
Woof!! Low end mix problems have never been explained better!! Can't wait to try this. Thanks so much (Instant sub!)
It’s the weekend coming up and I’m gonna be feeling-up my woofer all the live long day! What a tip! Sensuality of this channel is off the charts 🔥