Joe Hill Tells You How To Write A Horror Novel
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Christ, he really looks like his Dad here.
wasteyelo1 Yes he does
wasteyelo1 Talks like him too.
wasteyelo1 yeah changing the name didn't hide it much
I was actually confused for a brief second because I thought he was Stephen King. He looks a lot like a younger him, especially with a beard, except I think his face is rounder. I never knew he wrote Horns though, that's neat.
~That's a very good thing to me him looking like his awesome dad Stephen King.~
I usually root for Jason cause the characters are bland. However, in Stephen King's IT, I almost cried when Georgie died just because he had so much likeablility already. He went to retrieve a boat and got killed over it, just because he was afraid that Bill would be very mad over it, and it breaks my heart that Georgie died. And the whole adventure I was rooting for Bill and the rest to take down Pennywise because of the injustice Pennywise created. You really feel that loss with Georgie, and I think that's what really made IT the movie classic that everyone knows and loves to this day.
I thought his first words were going to be "if you want to write horror you really need to have stephen king's face", then i read who he is lol!
I agree mostly with the bonding of the characters. I watched A Quiet Place, and I felt so attached to the characters it made it so much more suspenseful when they were on danger.
damn he looks like his dad
This is all absolutely correct. Also Stephen King and Joe Hill are my favorite authors of all time.
Steven had been mine for so very long since way back in the late seventies all the way until like all liberals he began to use his stage and his books to viciously attack conservatives and our presidents and leaders simply because they do not agree with what he wants.
Stephen and Joe are the best horror writers. I think this element of liking characters (especially with Georgie in IT) really makes their books and movies great.
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Can you recommend something from Joe Hill?
@@MrShanester117 The only books by him I've read are NOS4A2 and The Firmeman (currently) and both are masterpieces
Well I am a big fan of Stephen King, but have no idea about how to go with his son.. can you help me out?? I just wanna start with him.
He's right. I just read Heart-Shaped Box and he does a very good job of fleshing out his characters. I came to love Jude and Georgia and was rooting for them by the end.
Rule 1 be born Stephen kings son 😂
Really? King's wife has tried to be successful, and she hasn't been. His son has talent.
@@sb4040 she wasn't born stephen kings son sorry lol
Rule 2 (optional): be Stephen King
Rule 3: if you don’t follow rule 1 or 2, get out
Step one1: learn.write. And improve
He did become a critically acclaimed novelist without anyone knowing he was King's kid. But having King as a father you do have unprecedented access to one of the greatest living writers. You have his influence and knowledge at your disposal. And one of the best mentors money can't buy.
Wow, I know what Joe Hill means about writing from character, rather than planning. Though I plan things out in my mind and sometimes in text, I feel it's so much easier to just write scene to scene and create from there.
I'm gonna try that approach. I've always spent more time writing a complete timeline than writing the book, thanks Mr. Hill
This was so helpful!! Thank you so much amazing video, right to the point and very specific! ❤
That was very helpful. From what I've been writing, when trying to add an element of horror, I've tried to quicken the pace of the reading, as if to emphasize how quickly the character is trying to get a hold of the situation. I do this in ways of not being as descriptive, not being as observant, possibly leaving some things out because if one were in such a situation they wouldn't have the time to do such so why should the reader? But from what you said, creating more of an emphasis on character development, is something that i'll take to heart.
So like his Dad. I have read all of Joe's. I am so happy the King genre continues. Thanks man.
thank you. i love this. so helpful!!!
You are awesome! Thanks for the info! I am about to embark on a romantic horror novel myself; having never written a book before, all information helps!😃
Is it bad I was jamming to the background music the entire time??
Jessi Please Stop sameeee
😂😂😂
until you care for the characters the story isn't working
figure out how your writing about
think about what they'll do from scene to scene
and let them loose like a wind up toy
Totally agree. I have an idea for a horror screenplay called "Stormy Weather" I hope to get turned into the movie!
Sounds cool.
Best of luck!
How's it going?
Doing good...
Infinite Sky Is it finished?
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on your writing process.
That was so helpful! :D
I have a idea for a novel called North Is South, the world is nonsensical and dark. But near the end the message unravels.
This was a great video just word of advice lower the volume of the music it slightly drained out Joe's voice
I'm making a novel called, 'Lucy'. It's about a girl who thinks she's losing her sanity because she's hearing demonic voices speaking to her, and she's having Biblical dreams. She has no father, but her strange genetic afflictions don't come from her mother's side. These strange abilities she has include: Clairvoyance, and seeing the dead. It turns out her father is Lucifer, and she's a modern day 'Nephilim'. Her dad has been trying to reach her for years, but this was the first time he could actually get in her head and talk to her. Now she needs to find out how to actually see him and she gets to ask him all sorts of questions about why he's done what he has. Later, Lucy realizes she will ultimately end up like her father, unless she becomes a true believer in God. This tests her faith and sets her on a quest to find God.
WoW. How is it going?
Sounds good! I'd like to support it.
Boring!!
Sounds cool
Wohohoah, thats actually quite interesting
might help for my sudden concept for a short story grounded in realism, sci fi and horror:
A scientist is trying to find the formula to bring his deceased wife back from death, but apparently fails. In the days following, there are numerous murders, most of them people closest to him. It eventually dawns upon him, what if he was successful? And his wife could be out for vengeance against him, because he had killed her out of what he saw as mercy...
Interesting premise
Great concept, it sounds interesting.
Sounds like Revival you fraudulent, unoriginal fuck
Piece of advice- if you have an idea for a story, never tell anyone about it. As soon as you start telling people about it, something happens in your mind, and you lose the drive and will to tell the story. Also, forget other people's opinions of your ideas. Craft them until they make you sit up and say, AH! Then get writing. First draft is always a fucking mess. That's cool. Don't edit. Just splurge your ideas. Then with each new draft, allow your critical side into the room, little by little.
Good luck.
@@happymaskedguy1943 absolutely 🤗
Writing Rule Number One: Characters.
He really is the son of Stephen King, who's a great writer because his care about Characters.
He writes amazing realistic characters who makes you fall in love with them, and literally addict his books.
terrific video. I agree with his take on characters in modern horror films, and I enjoyed listening to his approach on writing, building his way into his characters then working outwards.
I have a horror series (my first of many in the same universe) on several TH-cam narration channels such as Mr. Creeps where its retitled The Olympic Mountain Series, or the UNCUT version on Dead Man Talking Forest of Fear and its called by its real name THE MOUNTAIN. Both narrators do my short semi-lovecraftian story too called PERCEPTION or on Mr. creeps its retitled WE WERE TOLD TO NEVER LEAVE THE FOREST, I SHOULD HAVE LITSTENED. I am starting many more stand alone short stories as well, for I wont be able to keep putting series out within the universe of the mountain because they are just teasers into my 3 book novel, with THE MOUNTAIN being a prologue (about 4 hours long too!) 😈😎😇
I'm currently reading his "horns" it's pretty good.
you should check out Nos4a2 too
damn,no mistaken him for someone else is son ! . some pretty good advice, I have a book full of horror ideas. I never do a first draft are anything. I write up my characters, and that's about it . once pen / finger hits the paper / key it just flows .
I don't know about you guys but he looks so cute and squishy lol. The way he talks also adds to his charisma. Charming, cute, (probably a bit of crazy) guy.. well, all writers are crazy, just on different levels.
I agree. I’ve been saying this for years.
Good except that the music was too loud. (good but distracting due to the volume)
I have read all of your novels. I agree with what you preach. Now please make characters that I can get behind and actually like. Do not strive to make characters so gray that they lose the readers desire to root for them.
Thx so much
Currently in the process of writing my first horror novel... 1. Haunting of the Asylum...
I'm writing my first horror novel as well. Currently, it has the working title of Umiko, Umiko. I'll likely change it.
Mannie Wray
Did you finish it?
Boring name
@@yogita5756 why would you say that
Im writing a horror novel, it’s called “Doors Led To Your Nightmares”.
im writing a story about a group of people who get stuck on a island after there plane crash, but this isnt any normal island. this island is inhabited by the shadowy like monsters who only come out during the night.
Oh no, I'm writing a similar one. 45 people are given a ten-day timeshare on a remote Alaskan island where it is always night (Arctic Circle) but it turns out that there are horrific creatures on the island, forcing the characters to be trapped in their cabins with little food or water.
Taking after his dad so sweet
~Your very lucky and blessed having Stephen King for an awesome dad in your life.~
1:41 I remember this guy with horns as a kid.
I'm still pretty convinced that he just goes by Joe Hill because otherwise he would have been Joe King... Get it? Joe King? Joking? I stole this joke.
Love Heart Shaped Box and Horns
Joe Hills heart shaped box do yourself a favour and read it this Halloween
I'm trying to make a sci if horror story, although I'm not sure what could make a good introduction. I'm thinking of making things calm in the beginning to let the the reader know the main character, but I have doubts that it would even be interesting for things to be calm in the beginning of a horror story.
My idea of the story is set in space. In a lunar city on one of the moons of a planet from another galaxy. The main character is a normal simple man trying to earn a living as an engineer for his sick family member, who is ill from an unknown sickness that paralyzed the limbs of the person. The next following day, he woke up finding out that the city's power is nearly out, leaving the entire lunar city near pitch black. He tried to find out what's going on, until he found out the people in the city started acting strange and not themselves anymore, acting as if they are "controlled" by something and if under control long enough, will turn the person into a grotesque and humanoid being that simply wants the main character to "Join them and he will live forever for eternity".
Is this a bad story idea?
I like it, personally, I think it could turn out well.
What's your explanation in the end? I could beta read for you if you wanted.
I like your vid
I love writing horror novels. I usually write 16 chapters tho. One day I will soon be an Author of Horror. As for making them into film that's going to take a while. Working on one right now that I call Strange voices 2. And he's right you don't always want to focus on the killer you want to go into the couple's story line first. If you're new to writing novels you may start out with the June 16 1962 approach. Which is good but I have went from beyond the old black and white scary theory.
I'm currently working on a horror story called The Afterdarks. It's about kids who didn't listen to the parents when they told them to be home before dark. Spoiler! A lot of these kids end up on milk cartons.
It's been 5 years. Did you finish it?
Good points mentioned in your video. You should try reading the horror book Affliction I Have Seen by Trent Mills. I think you would enjoy it as have I.
Had to shut this off because of the music and popups. If you post a video of someone talking for less than three minutes, why not just let them talk so we can hear what they have to say? If it's not interesting enough to hold our attention on its own for three freakin' minutes or less, it shouldn't be posted.
that description do
I don't care what movie/book it is, I always route for the bad guy...
"I follow the character". Like father like son. ) At least he respects planners. Steve does not such thing and too bad, 'cause a lot of good writers are planners.
The trick with planning is to create the plot _around_ the characters.
I ALWAYS root for the killer lmao
O-o you need help!
thehoosierfortheUK no.
The antagonists are always the great guys, who wants to root for the easy going guy in a cape that can fly, shoot lasers in his eyes and gets the girl? How about the guy who had a fuck up incident and is shunned by the world?
i do too bro
wxstednxghts same, it wrong that I really enjoy people getting torched and killed
Most of the time you are given little information about the good guys, the good guys always dive into the killer. You learn more about the killer than the good guys. The good guys are set as good by default, you don't care about them. Then you have a killer who was lead into that way, something happened, and has a thirst, an itch, a vengeance, etc. Then you end up caring for the killer, or the monster more than the "hero" or "good guys".
For example, take a look at Daredevil TV series, the Kingpin, we are given way more information about him, more than Daredevil/Matt. We cared more about Kingpin and even rooted for him, but he wasn't that bad. He had shit going through since he was a kid, he has issues. He wanted to bring peace to the city, through a kind twisted plan, but he wanted to end crime and bring a good life, but he had to get his hands dirty.
Sad thing was, his approach isn't that bad, in fact it is more realistic than what Matt wanted, he wanted to trust the system and trust people to do the right thing. In second season he started to fall apart cause he lost faith. We lost faith in the system as well.
He looks soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much like his father. Wow.
Surely, he's Joe King.
~I could never write a book as great as your dad Stephen King.~
Plz don't say that not trying to bother you ok?Sorry if i'm being too picky
He learned from the best
If there's one thing that irritates me, it's a successful writer crapping all over someone else's work. While it's fair to say no one in the SAW franchise is as sympathetic as, say, Laurie Strode or Carrie White, it's unfair to say we don't care about any of the characters, and erroneous to say the franchise doesn't work at all. Dr. Gordon's wife and daughter, and later Gordon himself, are characters in the first SAW who we relate to & care about. Daniel Matthews and Amanda are characters we care about in SAW II. Pretty clear from Hill's choice of that franchise to cite as a bad example that he isn't very familiar with the series at all. Like so many others, he just believes what others say about it at face value - something an author in this genre should know better than ro do, considering all the stigmas & calls for censorship which come from people ignorant of the genre.
I like psychological thriller.
But... I liked Saw...
I mean Jason Voorheese loved his mom, he was deformed, we should be rooting for him, sympathizing for him tho
This video clip has made me a better man.
I think
He looks so much like his dad
I want to write a horror script that's disturbing and surrealist. No torture porn and no excessive blood and guts and sex even though the highlight will be sex or a romantic relationship
I recently watched the movie "Await Further Instructions" and got so pissed off throughout the whole thing because I really hated the guys family with a burning passion, the father being the absolute worst piece of shit I've seen in a horror movie along with the pregnant sister. When everyone died in this film, I also felt empty and thought the baby being left alone to see what the TV said was very stupid. I understand what hidden message this movie had in store for us, but when you make a horror movie where the characters are mostly dislikeable, you lose the fear element almost completely and you don't have any feeling when the movie ends and the characters die.
I would rather laugh at the absurdity of a horror movie trying to be scary with light hearted characters then be completely pissed off and feeling nothing at the end of a bleak shit fest horror film full of people that deserved to die.
Is he a relative of Stephen King?
+Ibelieve Intheone He's Stephen King's son :)
+Dr. Gravedancer Holy shit
Yeah He is Stephen King's Son He is a Writer Too He Toke After His Dad
Ibelieve Intheone I can't imagine your face when you found they were ralated. I'm sure you meant it as a joke. 😂😂😂
But you're only describing any story in any genre
Of course "caring" is what we hear all the time, but that is the audience response to the writing, not the writing itself. You want an audience interested in knowing more about the character, you want the audience invested and you do that by peeling back layers to their personal life. But none of that is what makes a horror a horror. You need a monster that holds the Audience's attention, and one that doesn't become ridiculous, but has a rationale behind it.
Clearly he hasn't SEEN Hostel.
Is there any video of Joe Hill where the comments aren’t filled with people saying how much he looks like his dad LOL
Doesn't he look like his Daddy? Must be incredibly hard forging his own similar, but independent, career
I could hardly hear the dude to the loud music
Not talking about Heart Shaped Box, then? Had literally no sympathy to the protagonists.
Jackie I'm reading Heart Shaped Box now and I love the characters! Jude and Georgia are deeply flawed people, but you understand them and as the novel goes along you become very attached. At least I did.
0:53 channel decides to do exact opposite: "he wanted to be successful on his own merit no his own father's."
It is good information, but it is based off bad examples that make me feel like he hasn't really seen many of the films he is using as examples. Then again, he wrote an entire book about a goth, without doing the five minutes of research that it takes to know that goths aren't metalheads.
For the love of all that is holy, please remove the music or at least dial it down by 95%. And now, back to our scheduled programming.
ask ur dad.... lol just kidding
I love Stephen King so much but I think one day Joe Hill will outbid his father cause he is very talented too
Agreed. Joe’s inherited his dad’s storytelling gift and his mom’s gift for character depth. Love me some Stephen, but as far as craft, Joe’s outdone him.
Who thinks joe hill and Stephen King are stereotypical
i loooooove aloft
Can you remake this video and drop the annoying background music? The listener seeks clear, uninterrupted advice on the topic. Missing just one word of your sentences because of the annoying music detracts from your presentation. If you were in a meeting with authors, discussing this topic, would you play a CD recording during the discussion? Alternatively, hire a professional editor before releasing a video.
I um
Always root for the killertbh
this guy looks like Stephen King..
Its his son
Sort of....
yeh he's is his son, he doesn't want fame from his dad so he used a different name
So, he writes under a pseudonym as a pretense to earn his own readership based on his own merits alone, rather than ride on his father's name? Yet he uses his father's clout/collaboration/recommendations and connections to get published and recognized. Impressive. If he is currently king of the hill it is only because he is a King, not a Hill.
How (really) to write a horror novel:
Step 1: Have the good fortune to be the son of Stephen King so you can
be introduced to his publishers and trade on the family name.
Step 2: Pick a pseudonym to appear like you have made it on your own
merit while at the same time having your father publicize, promote and
co-author your books as King Jr so everyone knows who you are and buy in
to the family brand.
Step 2: Cultivate your appearance to look like a young Stephen King
(beard - check, unruly hair - check, prominent eyeglasses rather than
contacts or lasic surgery -- check, casual wear with requisite tshirt and jeans -
check).
Riiiiiight--because talent, hard work, good ideas, and lifelong commitment obviously had nothing to do with it. Better check the pH on those grapes.
Gee, what makes him such an expert?
His dad is Stephen King
This guy has all the mannerisms of your dad without his talent.
It’s like he is writing like a 14 years old, no style, very little substance. I have no idea why people like his work.
I completely disagree with him. Spending a long time "getting to know" the characters is just a big bore and a drag. Senior King has an amazing ability to ramble for hundreds of pages with little to nothing happening. I never cared for any of Kings characters. Im interested in the mystery.
Saw Is not body horror. The characters in the First movie are Deep im tired of this shit
Horns sucks!
I got an idea for a horror story, it is called "P.A.T" aka Paranormal Activity Team, it is about a Group of teenagers who are wanted by the police, they break into a government base and unintentionally freed every single creatures trapped there, the government finds the teens and they are forced to track down the monsters and return them, or they will be killed by the President's order and will be classified as "Missing",the Villains are the team of Monsters:
Slender-Man: A Creature that strangles with his tentacles and you can die just from looking at him, he lives in the forest, chained to a wall, the chains is strong enough to stop him from teleporting away
Weeping Angel: A statue of an Angel, Moves when your not watching it, Is put behind a Containment cell
"The ShadowMan": the second most powerful, he is a human less shadow, name unknown, origin is unknown, wants to kill all humans, if he kills your shadow, you will die, Trapped in a Bright Cell, with no opening to the outside
The Fallen Angel: Sighted by a Truck Driver, the Angel flew right through a truck,leaving a hole, was hit by an airplane, and was found unconscious on a bus, the least dangerous
Wendigo: A Creature that lives in the woods, can grow in height at its will, and can transform others into it, found Crawling out a burning Cabin
Ted: A being from a universe he called "The World Of Fear", He Is trapped in a Dungeon and is watched at all times, can do what he wants and can manipulate the world at his will, Hard to Defeat, most powerful being, the government created a weapon strong enough to Knock him out for a moment
NightMare: A Ghost that can turn into anything it wants, is obsessed with ruining peoples life, and giving nightmares, can possess anyone who has the same passion of fear as he is, Was killed by someone, the most Vengeful and Angry Creature, is currently possessing a body, is trapped in a containment cell
I am currently working on it
Awesome dude3 so how’s your book going?
or a better woman...haha you know
So this guy strongly disapproves of most of his father's novels?
Nobody cares about your generic characters or their generic lives. Focus on the story instead of the to-do list of fictional characters. We don't care if the main guy loves his wife, has sex or tries to quit smoking. We want to know why somebody is trying to kill him or why!