This right here is why we love Mushoku Tensei and for me is one of the single best episodes of isekai I've ever had the pleasure of watching. See my full uncut live reactions to the episodes over on Patreon www.patreon.com/BrandonReviews
there's so many layers that make it such a compelling arc and the end result was just the cherry on top. this is everything and why I rave about this show so much. you don't see writing like this every day
@@TheBranchez I saw a ton of spoilers on yt, I know what happens next and honestly I thought I was ready for it but I just know it’s only the beginning
What I love about this series is the fact that Rudeus doesn't have a magical solution to every problem that arises for example with the Nanahoshi situation he doesn't know sh*t about summoning magic/circle so he asked his friends for help and this episode as well unlike other Isekai MC who somehow knows how to solve every problem they face IN THE NEW WORLD THEY'RE IN which makes no F*cking sense.
In most other isekais is either they are able to solve every issue miraculously with the most optimum outcome or just run with the "might makes right" policy that somehow doesn't backfire.
I love episodes like these. IMO Mushoku Tensei is at its absolute best when it’s depicting the complexities of human relationships, and this episode is the perfect example of that. There really isn’t another isekai that does this aspect quite this well.
This pov on Norn when she removes the curtain to See Rudeus's face but first saw Paul's then switched to Rudeus was really good. But the deep meaning behind it was it reminded her of Paul's sad and pathetic face and how scared he was to face Rudeus after their fight just like how now Rudeus is to face Norn . And also in Ln in Norn pov she says Rudeus resembles a little to their father and also smells like him. So she was assured he would never harm her 😊
Rudeus's feelings and sentiments are a "If you know, you know" kinda deal; and it's from top to bottom. The episode presented most of the major worldviews possible when it comes to the subject of depression, and most people will not realize it when watching it. They might relate to one part here or there, but it really does cover all the major bases. The first one that sticks out is the person who wants to help and tries talking to a person, presenting them with love, care, and logic. The person doing this thinks they are applying salve to a burn, but for the person hearing these things is more akin to salt on a wound. When the words "other people have it worse" reach their ears the feelings that will arise from this will be along the lines of "So I'm not even allowed to feel bad?" "So things can even get worse than it is now?" "I'm pathetic that I feel this bad when other people have it worse." Rudeus knows this sentiment all too well which is why he stayed mostly silent when he was with Norn, that when you're in a bad mental space anything that's said will be twisted into the worst possible negative. The second thing that sticks out is the idea of "If I can do it, anyone can do it" which speaks to the kinds of misunderstandings that can happen with people who do make it to the other side of a dark experience. Rudeus mentally projected a 1:1 scenario of what happened to him on to his sister, and so he went in thinking about what solution would work for him in that situation: If only he had the power to fight back or if only someone could have saved him. When he figured out that he was the source of the problem, it immediately snapped him out of that mindset which would have made everything worse. The moment he didn't have any solution to the problem he was facing was the moment he stumbled into the actual solution: Most depressed people don't need positive reinforcement, or even someone in their corner; they need an ear and a shoulder to cry on; which meant that unironically doing absolutely nothing was the solution in that particular moment. The acknowledgement that Norn was able to pull herself out of the void where as Rudy couldn't is also a very nice touch of writing, because that's how it is for people. Some people are stuck longer, and some people do indeed give up; even with help. People feel despair and hopelessness in different ways, and the path back from it is different for each person; and sadly for some there is no path back. Which does speak to one of the core themes of the show itself, as it explores that path back in detail and the emotional consequences. It's a bit of irony really that people who dislike the show or Rudy specifically will often have a sentiment of "Just grow up" and the entire story and narrative simply wouldn't happen if "Just grow up" was a magic spell that could instantly cure a person of all of their hang-ups.
Out of all the things that got some strong reaction from Rudy,this was by far the strongest,that felt personal. So personal to the point that he acted stupid making assumptions and getting mad at people before even accessing the situation. So happy he was able to help Norm at the end tho,that gave him a well needed closure to what he did to his brothers
Yes, this is what I love about orginal spider man movies. I don't enjoy superhero movies, they save the world hurray. But in orginal spider man, the villian had a personal issue with spidy, but more importantly , everything spidy does he has to choose to sacrifice his personal life. I couldn't care less about the action, i couldn't care less about bad writing, couldn't care less about incomplete plot. Spidy losing his powers was one of my favourite things in superhero movies. And I gotta say, MT simply did it better then Spiderman movies. No comparison. And until MT, i haven't seen many movies or shows even attempt this. Tbf I don't watch much shows or movies.
Love the DUAL meaning to the episode's title. My Older Brother's Feelings isn't just about Rudeus's relationship to Norn... the parallel to his past relationship to **his** older brother from his old life, makes for a title of such a beautiful **thematic** layering. Aaaaaaand next episode is Turning Point 3?? I'm on pins and needles, waiting to find out what it's gonna be THIS time!! 😳😳😳
Damm what a amazing scene and raw emotions coming from past experience, he really needed to take that another first step, and Norn needed to grow up past their first meeting, she and her sister can only go up from here. Unless Turning Point 3 do something else crazy again.
They don't do POVs for characters other than Rudeus often (they saved Eris' for an OVA, and they skipped over a much needed one for Sara altogether), but they really nailed this episode from Norn's POV. And for a long time I've been dying to see how they were going to do the character design of Norn's roommate (a bird woman). i was not disappointed whatsoever. And next week is Turning Point 3.
This is what i like about Mushoku Tensei Rudy isn't perfect but he tries, very hard to be a good brother for Norn and he wasn't really doing anything directly wrong its just the situation went against him. The only tragedy about Norn overcoming something Rudy couldn't is she'll never know the details as shes not in the know about Rudy's previous life.
Yeah it's a drama anime, yeah it's Isekai but they not only focus on the lore and all the thing. Yeah Mushoku had that stuff but they give it us all of this drama and also keep developing all the lore in this series.
This episode hit really hard. They wrote Norn as perfectly as they could have. I don't know how to talk is such a real feeling. The hardest part is she had the strength to depend on Ruddy. There are two points: 1. Norm couldn't do it alone. Period. Nothing could have helped her for her to do it on her own. 2. Norm could actually internalize her thoughts about Rudy. They were obviously incomplete, if her thoughts were not incomplete she wouldn't be in this position. But at least she has some thoughts about her fear. 1 &2 were not given to me. I was not completely shut in and was a working in a wfh job. So apart from buying vegitables, i never went out. 1. I forced myself to join piano classes just so I can see the sun once a week. I live with my parents, so even groceries are mostly bought by them. Piano saved my life 100%. I had to save myself, with the help of piano 2. Even now, while I am in a much better place physically , I am exercising, practicing piano, talking to friends, etc. I still haven't figured out what I am afraid of. What I want. What I need to do. Everytime i think of these things, i only come up with one answer, once my parents pass away, I am going to kill myself. I find my existence meaningless. I won't every marry or love anyone, i would just pass down my misery to them. I have like 1 friend who I shared this feeling with. I am mentally still in a room. While externally I have found a solution, i know I am just living to make my mother happy. Everytime she is sad, I am hit with severe hearth ache. She has given everything for me, I am living only to reciprocate the love. After that, Idk. Worst part is I have it much better than anyone else, I have a gaming laptop, I have a job, i can spend money for eating outside, i don't have many responsibilities, i got it easy. It makes me feel like a complete loser.
I half agree about ur mother's part, and that's genuinely half the goal in this life. Ofc if u'r an atheist u wouldn't believe in the afterlife, God, supernatural things...etc, but in this case someone who's lost in life but loves his mother which is the best thing ever. I could only say since i truly believe in it myself, just take a look and if u could read Quran! It's the heart therapy.
@@Am1nTheSaiyan thanks man, but ya, I lost all sorts of belief long ago. Maybe that worsened my case but it is what it is, I can no longer follow any religion.
@@pianissimo7121 hey man, I know how you been feeling I was a shut in too for about 6 years of my life. I know how it feels to lose all hope, I even tried to kill myself a few times but was always saved by my family especially my father he is the reason I am writing this to you. So please don't give up on life, even after you are not with your mother, as she only wants to see you happy and would be sad if you ended your life. I dont know what to say to make you feel better but please never give up hope, I dont know what is after we die some say there is nothing and other say its judgment but we dont know but here of earth we know things are real and can make a change. As long as you live, there are infinite possibilities for you. So please live your life as best as you could. I know I am coming off as ignorant but please talk with anyone if you want we can find a way to exchange conversations. So please live a beautiful life. I am sorry if I said something wrong or something that hurt you.
@@rallerrow9074 naa dont worry about hurting me, comically I am emotionally pretty stable. I had the same thought you did when I was a child. I kept telling myself I will never commit suicide, even If I have to run away and beg for money, there is always a reason to stay alive. I am just scared, but I don't know why. I used to ask myself what would I do if I had all the money in the world. My answer was usually, learn Piano, learn Chess, learn Archery, learn Maths. Now my answer is only to learn Piano. I am losing interest in everything that made me me. Eventually I wont find Piano fun too. I guess that scares me. I don't think I can commit suicide, but going from being confident about never doing it to telling myself every night, I have to survive 1 more day is sapping all my energy. I am confident I have at least 2 people, who will stop me, or at least give me a reason to live. I just hate that I can no longer live for myself. Also, Congrats on finding a way to live. Wish you and your father well.
@@pianissimo7121 Thanks for the wishes man. And if you feel burdened and can not find anyone else to talk to please come and talk to me. I know i am not of much help but at least I can lend an ear. For now all I can say is GOODLUCK with life and stay happy.
Speaking of turning points....did you catch the title of the next episode? 😀 Also, there was some extra context in the LN, it wasn't just about Rudy, she was deeply unhappy during her time in Milis with Zenith's family. She hated Aisha for beating her at eveything and rubbing her nose in it (Aisha has been messed up for completely differnet reasons) and especially her grandmother (Zenith's mother) for constantly berating her for being inadequate and losing to 'the bastard child', and also insulting Paul. It has been building for a while
The thing that impressed me is that Rudy doesn't try to "fix" his sister. He is simply honest when he says I don't know what to do and that is the real catalyst for Norn realizing and dealing with her feelings. This was awesome.
This is a Norn story, but through that Rudy is able to draw parallels to his own experience, and so it becomes a Rudy story as well. Not only has Norn made significant character progression in this episode, Rudy also gained insights on his previous life's brother. What he must have gone through dealing with him. Norn's and Rudy's character arcs are integrated seamlessly. Such is the genius of Mushoku Tensei storytelling.
I'm glad she found the strength to move forward herself after hearing Rudeus' words, not that he said anything truly inspiring but i believe his presence was enough to trigger herself to resolve the emotional conflict she was having inside. I hope we'll get to see more moments where the siblings act like siblings in the next episodes.
I also loved this episode. There are parallels but it's not a copy because that's not how it works. Mushoku Tensei shows a realistic portrayel of depression and how to deal with it. One of the major things that help in real life is having meaningful intimate relationships with other people. When Rudy earlier was at his lowest he was pretty much alone and had no deep relationships. By coming to the school he meets Sylphie but also gathers a friend group and becomes part of a community. And we see how that greatly improves his mental health and happiness. Same goes for Nanahoshi. If she was alone things would not have turned around for her after that breakdown.
These type of episodes get me every time, 😭😭😭😭😭 Great episode and very encouraging for Rudy to see his own faults and want to atone for his failer in his past life.
As someone struggling the way Rudy did in his past life, this episode really hit home for me. No one wants to stay holed up in their room forever. It's just that doing anything else seems impossible. And the way his older brother eventually gave up on him, can't say I blame him. These kinds of people can be notoriously stubborn and self-destructive. It's hard to watch them willingly rot away. But a part of me wonders if the brother hadn't stopped trying, what if past-Rudy might've eventually gotten better. I love how after years have passed for Rudy in this new world, he never forgets his past life and how he used to be. He's always makes sure to never forget the bad decisions he made and is determined to be better than that.
ive been watching for a while and i didnt realize i wasnt subscribed, and i apologize. Your 10 billion percent right on this being a masterpiece. This dissection of these characters was masterfully said
I just listened to this chapter in the audiobook after watching the episode. The direction here is brilliant. I don't think I have ever seen a better adaptation of the source material to the anime format. They manage to visually capture what in the source material is an internal monologue! The juxtaposition Norm seeing Paul turn into Rudeus's was brilliant. That visual image portrays pages of dialogue. My new favorite GOAT.
Just watched the episode loved it start to finish. The small touch of Rudy opening the door then it shows him in his past life holed up in his room was great
This episode handled the part of the source just so perfectly. Was very happy to see. You mentioned first Season - I think this season and this is an example of it - they've shown the Growth in Paul's kids, I mean other than Aisha who is just Chaos personified really (which is why she's so good)
What I love about the resolution I this episode, is that it was honest in that there was nothing Rudy really could've said to convince Norn if she didn't already start to change her mind about him. I think thematically, it's another demonstration of his limits to the audience, juxtapositioning the almost god-like praise he was getting from the school.
It's a nice thing to show these in anime. Since I never experienced any such things as a kid, it gives me perspective. The other thing I appreciate is that they showed that Rudy acknowledged that someone tried to help him, but he was the one who turned them away. Getting out of this situation is not one sided. There may be a lot of people who tries to help, but you also need to help yourself. If you don't, then those people trying to help would just think it's hopeless too and eventually leave. It's hard to point fingers. But just try one's best to understand both sides.
This was so teary that I had to rewatch Rudy's and Paul's reunion scene in order to gauge which one made me eat more onions. Both are masterpiece moments, but Paul's words hit stronger: ''I couldn't... find anyone all this time... I thought maybe you were all dead...''
Once again commenting earlier than planned to because of another amazing and brilliant episode. At this point I don’t see any justification for haters to hate this anime. I really like what they did with Norn in both this episode and the last few episodes. I knew it was going to turn out this way with whole explanation as to why she was acting the way she was to Rudeus but apparently people nowadays want instant gratification unless some super popular guy on the internet tells them ahead of time what’s up. Rudeus himself also shows how far he’s come. I really felt that past trauma come back up but in a “I won’t let this happen again” way. I completely related to him for the entirety of this episode. I heard any episodes labeled “Turing Point” mean that we’re in for something big so I guess next week is gonna be even better than this week and I can hardly wait to see what happens next.
this episode actually reminded me a lot of the subaru and rem episode, in the way that the entirety of the episode was solely focused on the relationship between two characters
broooo your video quality has really gotten so much better, i havent watched a video in a while, since re zero was still airing, but man just keep it up!!
This ep was amazing I just love how deep and relatedable Rudeous is when they do episodes like this. I remember it was the same when he spoke to Paul again and saying goodbye to rujuird like sometimes In life your tested in ways your not passionate about or way you don’t take pride in and I think a bigger message this show shows is because he was such a failure in his past life it makes him humble and understanding regardless of all the strength he gained and success he has now. Where others would be arrogant. This show is my favorite modern anime man
Mushoku Tensei isn’t the king of isekai it’s the grandfather of all isekai. It’s wiser and more experienced than many of the other isekai series giving it a depth that the others don’t have. That’s not a jab against the other isekai series out there but a fact that if they were going to have struggles they could turn to Mushoku Tensei and get some much needed help.
The problem i find with the latter is 1.Paul didn't send it, and it doesn't explain the problem. 2. that letter probably took a year to reach rudeu's location, so we don't know whether by that time the problem has been solved and rudeus journey will be for nothing
This is also a great way to do a scene or scenes with not a lot of dialogue. Managing to nail that tense almost awkward atmosphere is really difficult. Emotions and micro expressions are incredibly complex.
This is such an awesome and emotional episode. I can see having my fair share of issue alike this of thinking of someone else. Rudy trying to help and make things right. Norn finally seeing her brother. And Rudy and Norn patching things up even though there is nothing said towards one another. They are starting off nicely to help one another eventually. Looking forward to next episode. Man. This is like that time when Rudy and Paul fought and made up. Now it is Rudy and Norn’s turn. Loved it so much. :,)
Today was a Masterpiece. So much so that it didn't forget to fire our expectations by included THE dramatic title for next episode. Mushoku Tensei is Goat Through and through. Can't denie it anymore.
I decided to watch the full season of Anohana: The Flower We Saw That Day, and then I immediately jumped to this episode. Yeah, I suffered a death sentence, then came back for more drama. feels like a human centipede now. His apology to Norm also represents the words he wanted or should have said to his brother: "I don't know what to do now."
Thus Rudeous gets the Rude awakenning, or a Very Icy Cold Splash of Water to the Face, When he found out the Reason Norn became a shut-in was not because of bullying that he jump-to-conclusions to, because of the bullying in his past life; But because of him. Must had been Really Ackward afterwards with how he lash out at pple. And Norn, seeing Rudy at a Total Lost & Sad, made her realize he isn't exactly the monster she envision, Just a Person like she is. Hopefully now, She can be her Own Person, and Also trust Rudy as well 🙂
This kinda reminds me of S1vsS2 Of Vinland Saga. Im enjoying this Arc & it’s been a long time since I’ve felt like I’ve grown up with a Character. The only 2 others come to mind are Eren & Naruto, so I’m hands down rooting for Rudy . Great video man 💯
I was really enjoying the episode and watched the ed for the first time to continue feeling the cathartic vibes and then... I read the next episode name..This show bout to fuck me all the way up
In the end Rude is a broken character which makes him more real than anything. The fact that he walk in the class and ask if Norn was strip down, its so sad I mean it might be meant as a joke but damn. I remember reading this as a manga way before it was even considered for anime and when people started to complain about he was written as a pervert I thought damn people don’t get the fact he died as a 20+ man who never developed social skill what where they aspecting ichigo, luffy, goku. Even now he never took the easy way out his family in japan was of no help cool he did not turn psycho in with a grudge in the new world which made him something different. When his brother said you don’t have to back to school right now is when I realize there was no way out for him his family will never be of any help. What he needed was what he got to start somewhere new. Plus he got the best girl Silphy somebody who was also bullied kindred spirits. While Norn will suffer from low self steam and inferiority complex no one will understand the pain inside his soul something he will carry as a cross but it’s what makes him see pain in others
I'm reasonably certain that everyone has gone through an episode in their life where people are expecting you to be as exceptional as your older siblings who go to or have attended the same school. Piling that up with her other insecurities and the fact that she's in an unfamiliar environment where the only people she knows are the same people she has issues with. Anyone would feel stressed, lost, and depressed. It helped that Rudy didn't try to force her to talk nor did he try scold her. He just apologized and let her work things out.
This show is just soo great. No matter how many times i re-watch this show, it still gets me feeling things. It warms me up to see characters written so well that they actually feel human
Things started getting real when Rudy realized what was really going on with Norn. I was hoping that would happen since Rudy really needed that in order to calm down and figure out what to do based on his own experience in his previous life.
I was a bit worried the anime would focus too much on Rudy's perspective when they went hard on the parallels to his old life. Because I think the Norn POV was the highlight of this volume of the novels. But fortunately I was worried for nothing, they really did Norn justice in the second half of the episode.
Talking about the parallels between Rudeus and Norn, the episode's title is ambiguous as it can apply to either of them. Or both, in fact. "My older brother's feelings"
I like the vids but please my brother in Roxy... it's Moo Show Coo (Mushoku), not Moo Shoe Coo (Mushuku) 😂 I tried to keep quiet for so long but my OCD is taking over. Even if you don't change it keep up the good work o7
I thought this was another fantastic episode and as for anyone who still doesn’t like the series because they find it boring or doesn’t like Rudy, well I’m not going to waste my time, trying to convince them otherwise.
That was quite a heavy episode with Rudeus reliving his past momentarily, thinking Norn was going through what he did and then seeing how both Rudeus and Norn did not know what to do to move forward through this.It was sad to see Rudeus' brother trying to get through to him but nothing was working, it is hard to tell if it was it many days or if he had stayed one day for hours but it is upsetting how it eventually made him give up trying to convince Rudeus. I do like that Rudeus can look back at it and understand the hardship that his brother went through and what it really meant that he had given up especially now that he is in that same position.Rudeus in angry big brother mode was interesting, I did laugh at him asking the teacher if she stripped Nor naked but a moment I realized, he's making assumptions based on his own experiences which made it quite sad. The bullying he is familiar with is so extreme that he'd assume that's what anyone would normally go through.
I really want to hate Norn so much for causing Rudy so much pain, and Rudy never ever did her wrong, he's been good to her and looked after her and treated her better than Rudy has ever been treated. And you can see that Rudy was hurting because of Norn, but this perspective just gave me a gut punch, now I have all this hate, but I know Norn doesn't also deserve it, so what now😅
Norn has been afraid this entire time that Rudeus might hit her, just like her first memory of Rudeus is him hitting her father. That's one thing they don't really emphasize in this episode. She was PHYSICALLY scared of him, too.
They really need to age up Rudeus in the anime so scenes like this hits even harder in the future, I feel like it is very important to show that Rudues has grown not only mentally but also Physically. it has been a long time since any of his family has seen Rudeus and considering we have been meeting them again. Also, a clip on the opening when Rudues and Paul was facing together made me realize that he and Sylphiette looks so similar in height
yup and the fact Rudy didnt act like his life was harder but rather she was just like him and anyone can have issues that lock them away is HUGE for his character
This episode encapsuled perfectly what make Mushoku Tensei in its own league when looking at Isekais (only Re Zero maybe could sit at its table). Unlike most Isekai where pass the 3 first episodes, the former MC's life doesn't matter at all. Here we see perfectly how Rudeus' former life impact his current life in his bad and good decision. People who dropped Mushoku Tensei because of Rudeus's early creepy behavior are really missing some top tier character development.
This right here is why we love Mushoku Tensei and for me is one of the single best episodes of isekai I've ever had the pleasure of watching. See my full uncut live reactions to the episodes over on Patreon www.patreon.com/BrandonReviews
I hope you seen the title of the next episode if not I wont spoil but if yes we will be eating good next week
Rudy facing his past trauma and Norn overcoming the same problem to become better siblings is such phenomenal character writing.
there's so many layers that make it such a compelling arc and the end result was just the cherry on top. this is everything and why I rave about this show so much. you don't see writing like this every day
All my hair stood up when I saw “turning point 3” at end of credits.
Having read the novels, I feel even worse.
@@TheBranchez I saw a ton of spoilers on yt, I know what happens next and honestly I thought I was ready for it but I just know it’s only the beginning
Facts I got chills I was like fuck what now lol
S3 ep17 rudy making up with Eris ?
Fun fact, ss2 ep 17 is Rudy making up with Norn and ss1 ep 17 was Rudy making up with Paul
Awesome coincidence to point out
I was searching for this comment. It is a awesome coincidence
S3 ep17 Rudy making up with Eris ?
What I love about this series is the fact that Rudeus doesn't have a magical solution to every problem that arises for example with the Nanahoshi situation he doesn't know sh*t about summoning magic/circle so he asked his friends for help and this episode as well unlike other Isekai MC who somehow knows how to solve every problem they face IN THE NEW WORLD THEY'RE IN which makes no F*cking sense.
In most other isekais is either they are able to solve every issue miraculously with the most optimum outcome or just run with the "might makes right" policy that somehow doesn't backfire.
I love episodes like these. IMO Mushoku Tensei is at its absolute best when it’s depicting the complexities of human relationships, and this episode is the perfect example of that. There really isn’t another isekai that does this aspect quite this well.
Him remembering his brother and the thought on sending him a message along with nanahoshi is goated
This pov on Norn when she removes the curtain to See Rudeus's face but first saw Paul's then switched to Rudeus was really good. But the deep meaning behind it was it reminded her of Paul's sad and pathetic face and how scared he was to face Rudeus after their fight just like how now Rudeus is to face Norn . And also in Ln in Norn pov she says Rudeus resembles a little to their father and also smells like him. So she was assured he would never harm her 😊
Rudeus's feelings and sentiments are a "If you know, you know" kinda deal; and it's from top to bottom. The episode presented most of the major worldviews possible when it comes to the subject of depression, and most people will not realize it when watching it. They might relate to one part here or there, but it really does cover all the major bases.
The first one that sticks out is the person who wants to help and tries talking to a person, presenting them with love, care, and logic. The person doing this thinks they are applying salve to a burn, but for the person hearing these things is more akin to salt on a wound. When the words "other people have it worse" reach their ears the feelings that will arise from this will be along the lines of "So I'm not even allowed to feel bad?" "So things can even get worse than it is now?" "I'm pathetic that I feel this bad when other people have it worse." Rudeus knows this sentiment all too well which is why he stayed mostly silent when he was with Norn, that when you're in a bad mental space anything that's said will be twisted into the worst possible negative.
The second thing that sticks out is the idea of "If I can do it, anyone can do it" which speaks to the kinds of misunderstandings that can happen with people who do make it to the other side of a dark experience. Rudeus mentally projected a 1:1 scenario of what happened to him on to his sister, and so he went in thinking about what solution would work for him in that situation: If only he had the power to fight back or if only someone could have saved him. When he figured out that he was the source of the problem, it immediately snapped him out of that mindset which would have made everything worse. The moment he didn't have any solution to the problem he was facing was the moment he stumbled into the actual solution: Most depressed people don't need positive reinforcement, or even someone in their corner; they need an ear and a shoulder to cry on; which meant that unironically doing absolutely nothing was the solution in that particular moment.
The acknowledgement that Norn was able to pull herself out of the void where as Rudy couldn't is also a very nice touch of writing, because that's how it is for people. Some people are stuck longer, and some people do indeed give up; even with help. People feel despair and hopelessness in different ways, and the path back from it is different for each person; and sadly for some there is no path back. Which does speak to one of the core themes of the show itself, as it explores that path back in detail and the emotional consequences. It's a bit of irony really that people who dislike the show or Rudy specifically will often have a sentiment of "Just grow up" and the entire story and narrative simply wouldn't happen if "Just grow up" was a magic spell that could instantly cure a person of all of their hang-ups.
You deserve hundreds of likes for this well crafted and in-point comment, sir.
Out of all the things that got some strong reaction from Rudy,this was by far the strongest,that felt personal. So personal to the point that he acted stupid making assumptions and getting mad at people before even accessing the situation. So happy he was able to help Norm at the end tho,that gave him a well needed closure to what he did to his brothers
Yes, this is what I love about orginal spider man movies.
I don't enjoy superhero movies, they save the world hurray.
But in orginal spider man, the villian had a personal issue with spidy, but more importantly , everything spidy does he has to choose to sacrifice his personal life. I couldn't care less about the action, i couldn't care less about bad writing, couldn't care less about incomplete plot.
Spidy losing his powers was one of my favourite things in superhero movies.
And I gotta say, MT simply did it better then Spiderman movies. No comparison. And until MT, i haven't seen many movies or shows even attempt this.
Tbf I don't watch much shows or movies.
Love the DUAL meaning to the episode's title. My Older Brother's Feelings isn't just about Rudeus's relationship to Norn... the parallel to his past relationship to **his** older brother from his old life, makes for a title of such a beautiful **thematic** layering.
Aaaaaaand next episode is Turning Point 3?? I'm on pins and needles, waiting to find out what it's gonna be THIS time!! 😳😳😳
This is why mushoku tensei is father of all issekai. Writing is another level
Damm what a amazing scene and raw emotions coming from past experience, he really needed to take that another first step, and Norn needed to grow up past their first meeting, she and her sister can only go up from here. Unless Turning Point 3 do something else crazy again.
They don't do POVs for characters other than Rudeus often (they saved Eris' for an OVA, and they skipped over a much needed one for Sara altogether), but they really nailed this episode from Norn's POV.
And for a long time I've been dying to see how they were going to do the character design of Norn's roommate (a bird woman). i was not disappointed whatsoever.
And next week is Turning Point 3.
This just isn't true we've seen Roxy's pov multiple times as well as Sylph, Eris and now Norn
@@dopeman4ever hmm... I fail to see how that disproves the word "often" in my post.
Don’t really have much to say, as you said. Honestly is the best episode of the anime so far and one of the best in isekai
there's a few isekai episodes ill always go back to and reference and id say this is an easy addition to said list
This is what i like about Mushoku Tensei Rudy isn't perfect but he tries, very hard to be a good brother for Norn and he wasn't really doing anything directly wrong its just the situation went against him.
The only tragedy about Norn overcoming something Rudy couldn't is she'll never know the details as shes not in the know about Rudy's previous life.
Yeah it's a drama anime, yeah it's Isekai but they not only focus on the lore and all the thing. Yeah Mushoku had that stuff but they give it us all of this drama and also keep developing all the lore in this series.
This episode hit really hard.
They wrote Norn as perfectly as they could have. I don't know how to talk is such a real feeling.
The hardest part is she had the strength to depend on Ruddy.
There are two points:
1. Norm couldn't do it alone. Period. Nothing could have helped her for her to do it on her own.
2. Norm could actually internalize her thoughts about Rudy. They were obviously incomplete, if her thoughts were not incomplete she wouldn't be in this position.
But at least she has some thoughts about her fear.
1 &2 were not given to me.
I was not completely shut in and was a working in a wfh job. So apart from buying vegitables, i never went out.
1. I forced myself to join piano classes just so I can see the sun once a week. I live with my parents, so even groceries are mostly bought by them. Piano saved my life 100%. I had to save myself, with the help of piano
2. Even now, while I am in a much better place physically , I am exercising, practicing piano, talking to friends, etc.
I still haven't figured out what I am afraid of. What I want. What I need to do.
Everytime i think of these things, i only come up with one answer, once my parents pass away, I am going to kill myself. I find my existence meaningless.
I won't every marry or love anyone, i would just pass down my misery to them. I have like 1 friend who I shared this feeling with.
I am mentally still in a room. While externally I have found a solution, i know I am just living to make my mother happy. Everytime she is sad, I am hit with severe hearth ache. She has given everything for me, I am living only to reciprocate the love. After that, Idk.
Worst part is I have it much better than anyone else, I have a gaming laptop, I have a job, i can spend money for eating outside, i don't have many responsibilities, i got it easy. It makes me feel like a complete loser.
I half agree about ur mother's part, and that's genuinely half the goal in this life. Ofc if u'r an atheist u wouldn't believe in the afterlife, God, supernatural things...etc, but in this case someone who's lost in life but loves his mother which is the best thing ever. I could only say since i truly believe in it myself, just take a look and if u could read Quran!
It's the heart therapy.
@@Am1nTheSaiyan thanks man, but ya, I lost all sorts of belief long ago. Maybe that worsened my case but it is what it is, I can no longer follow any religion.
@@pianissimo7121 hey man, I know how you been feeling I was a shut in too for about 6 years of my life. I know how it feels to lose all hope, I even tried to kill myself a few times but was always saved by my family especially my father he is the reason I am writing this to you.
So please don't give up on life, even after you are not with your mother, as she only wants to see you happy and would be sad if you ended your life. I dont know what to say to make you feel better but please never give up hope, I dont know what is after we die some say there is nothing and other say its judgment but we dont know but here of earth we know things are real and can make a change. As long as you live, there are infinite possibilities for you. So please live your life as best as you could. I know I am coming off as ignorant but please talk with anyone if you want we can find a way to exchange conversations. So please live a beautiful life. I am sorry if I said something wrong or something that hurt you.
@@rallerrow9074 naa dont worry about hurting me, comically I am emotionally pretty stable.
I had the same thought you did when I was a child. I kept telling myself I will never commit suicide, even If I have to run away and beg for money, there is always a reason to stay alive.
I am just scared, but I don't know why.
I used to ask myself what would I do if I had all the money in the world.
My answer was usually, learn Piano, learn Chess, learn Archery, learn Maths.
Now my answer is only to learn Piano. I am losing interest in everything that made me me. Eventually I wont find Piano fun too.
I guess that scares me.
I don't think I can commit suicide, but going from being confident about never doing it to telling myself every night, I have to survive 1 more day is sapping all my energy.
I am confident I have at least 2 people, who will stop me, or at least give me a reason to live. I just hate that I can no longer live for myself.
Also, Congrats on finding a way to live. Wish you and your father well.
@@pianissimo7121 Thanks for the wishes man.
And if you feel burdened and can not find anyone else to talk to please come and talk to me.
I know i am not of much help but at least I can lend an ear.
For now all I can say is GOODLUCK with life and stay happy.
Speaking of turning points....did you catch the title of the next episode? 😀
Also, there was some extra context in the LN, it wasn't just about Rudy, she was deeply unhappy during her time in Milis with Zenith's family. She hated Aisha for beating her at eveything and rubbing her nose in it (Aisha has been messed up for completely differnet reasons) and especially her grandmother (Zenith's mother) for constantly berating her for being inadequate and losing to 'the bastard child', and also insulting Paul. It has been building for a while
"iT's NOt a rEdEmPTiOn StOry!" - MT haters 🤡
"It'S dOeSn'T mAtTeR rUdY iS PdF-fILe" - that one crayon eater 🤡
@@arts1628 None of the girls he's had a relationship with was/is younger than him.
@@petermuller9480 tell that to those dimwitted people lol
@@arts1628 he is a pedo, stupid?
@@petermuller9480He know he's fully aware as a grown man in a child's body right?
Those kinds of episodes is what makes Mushoku Tensei so special. All characters in the show are really complex and feel like real humans
The thing that impressed me is that Rudy doesn't try to "fix" his sister. He is simply honest when he says I don't know what to do and that is the real catalyst for Norn realizing and dealing with her feelings. This was awesome.
It was awesome seeing Rudy using his past experience to help norn overcoming the same problem he had 👏👏👏
This is a Norn story, but through that Rudy is able to draw parallels to his own experience, and so it becomes a Rudy story as well. Not only has Norn made significant character progression in this episode, Rudy also gained insights on his previous life's brother. What he must have gone through dealing with him. Norn's and Rudy's character arcs are integrated seamlessly. Such is the genius of Mushoku Tensei storytelling.
I'm glad she found the strength to move forward herself after hearing Rudeus' words, not that he said anything truly inspiring but i believe his presence was enough to trigger herself to resolve the emotional conflict she was having inside. I hope we'll get to see more moments where the siblings act like siblings in the next episodes.
I also loved this episode. There are parallels but it's not a copy because that's not how it works. Mushoku Tensei shows a realistic portrayel of depression and how to deal with it. One of the major things that help in real life is having meaningful intimate relationships with other people. When Rudy earlier was at his lowest he was pretty much alone and had no deep relationships. By coming to the school he meets Sylphie but also gathers a friend group and becomes part of a community. And we see how that greatly improves his mental health and happiness. Same goes for Nanahoshi. If she was alone things would not have turned around for her after that breakdown.
These type of episodes get me every time, 😭😭😭😭😭 Great episode and very encouraging for Rudy to see his own faults and want to atone for his failer in his past life.
As someone struggling the way Rudy did in his past life, this episode really hit home for me.
No one wants to stay holed up in their room forever. It's just that doing anything else seems impossible. And the way his older brother eventually gave up on him, can't say I blame him. These kinds of people can be notoriously stubborn and self-destructive. It's hard to watch them willingly rot away. But a part of me wonders if the brother hadn't stopped trying, what if past-Rudy might've eventually gotten better.
I love how after years have passed for Rudy in this new world, he never forgets his past life and how he used to be. He's always makes sure to never forget the bad decisions he made and is determined to be better than that.
Meanwhile, other isekais: well I don't care, I will never think of my family, and past experiences in my original world ever again!
This episode was so beautiful! Loved how they became closer now and actually act like siblings!
ive been watching for a while and i didnt realize i wasnt subscribed, and i apologize. Your 10 billion percent right on this being a masterpiece. This dissection of these characters was masterfully said
I just listened to this chapter in the audiobook after watching the episode. The direction here is brilliant. I don't think I have ever seen a better adaptation of the source material to the anime format. They manage to visually capture what in the source material is an internal monologue! The juxtaposition Norm seeing Paul turn into Rudeus's was brilliant. That visual image portrays pages of dialogue. My new favorite GOAT.
Just watched the episode loved it start to finish. The small touch of Rudy opening the door then it shows him in his past life holed up in his room was great
this was a great episode. onion cutting ninjas invaded my place while i was watching this. 10/10 episode
This episode handled the part of the source just so perfectly. Was very happy to see. You mentioned first Season - I think this season and this is an example of it - they've shown the Growth in Paul's kids, I mean other than Aisha who is just Chaos personified really (which is why she's so good)
What I love about the resolution I this episode, is that it was honest in that there was nothing Rudy really could've said to convince Norn if she didn't already start to change her mind about him. I think thematically, it's another demonstration of his limits to the audience, juxtapositioning the almost god-like praise he was getting from the school.
It's a nice thing to show these in anime. Since I never experienced any such things as a kid, it gives me perspective. The other thing I appreciate is that they showed that Rudy acknowledged that someone tried to help him, but he was the one who turned them away. Getting out of this situation is not one sided. There may be a lot of people who tries to help, but you also need to help yourself. If you don't, then those people trying to help would just think it's hopeless too and eventually leave. It's hard to point fingers. But just try one's best to understand both sides.
These moments and episodes are the reason when the action comes it hits so hard
I didn't cry when I read the novel and the manga, but when I watched the anime, I shed a tear.
This was so teary that I had to rewatch Rudy's and Paul's reunion scene in order to gauge which one made me eat more onions. Both are masterpiece moments, but Paul's words hit stronger: ''I couldn't... find anyone all this time... I thought maybe you were all dead...''
I almost cried. Very emotional episode.
Peak anime and not just peak isekai.
Once again commenting earlier than planned to because of another amazing and brilliant episode. At this point I don’t see any justification for haters to hate this anime. I really like what they did with Norn in both this episode and the last few episodes. I knew it was going to turn out this way with whole explanation as to why she was acting the way she was to Rudeus but apparently people nowadays want instant gratification unless some super popular guy on the internet tells them ahead of time what’s up. Rudeus himself also shows how far he’s come. I really felt that past trauma come back up but in a “I won’t let this happen again” way. I completely related to him for the entirety of this episode. I heard any episodes labeled “Turing Point” mean that we’re in for something big so I guess next week is gonna be even better than this week and I can hardly wait to see what happens next.
what, am I regaining my human heart?
I shed more tears than I did for some character deaths in other shows that I also love!
I let a single tear escape my duct when Norn broke down crying as she hugged Rudy, then I shut it down so the flood gates didn't let loose 😢
this episode actually reminded me a lot of the subaru and rem episode, in the way that the entirety of the episode was solely focused on the relationship between two characters
Really amazing character development with Norm.
I lost it when she saw Paul instead of Rudy in the room
broooo your video quality has really gotten so much better, i havent watched a video in a while, since re zero was still airing, but man just keep it up!!
it's so peak
This is by far one of the most emotional episodes so far in Mushoku Tensei.
This ep was amazing I just love how deep and relatedable Rudeous is when they do episodes like this. I remember it was the same when he spoke to Paul again and saying goodbye to rujuird like sometimes In life your tested in ways your not passionate about or way you don’t take pride in and I think a bigger message this show shows is because he was such a failure in his past life it makes him humble and understanding regardless of all the strength he gained and success he has now. Where others would be arrogant. This show is my favorite modern anime man
Mushoku Tensei isn’t the king of isekai it’s the grandfather of all isekai. It’s wiser and more experienced than many of the other isekai series giving it a depth that the others don’t have. That’s not a jab against the other isekai series out there but a fact that if they were going to have struggles they could turn to Mushoku Tensei and get some much needed help.
The problem i find with the latter is 1.Paul didn't send it, and it doesn't explain the problem.
2. that letter probably took a year to reach rudeu's location, so we don't know whether by that time the problem has been solved and rudeus journey will be for nothing
Truly a beautiful and touching episode!
The next episode is called turning point 3. We know the happiness is about to end. NO SPOILERS PLEASE
This should be how isakai should be. The mc past experiances and traumas should be a constant factor in how they move through the new world.
This. This episode is what makes anime so special.
Turning point 3 is next!😅
Mushoku Tensei is Amazing.
Hits close to home
This is also a great way to do a scene or scenes with not a lot of dialogue. Managing to nail that tense almost awkward atmosphere is really difficult. Emotions and micro expressions are incredibly complex.
This is such an awesome and emotional episode. I can see having my fair share of issue alike this of thinking of someone else. Rudy trying to help and make things right. Norn finally seeing her brother. And Rudy and Norn patching things up even though there is nothing said towards one another. They are starting off nicely to help one another eventually. Looking forward to next episode. Man. This is like that time when Rudy and Paul fought and made up. Now it is Rudy and Norn’s turn. Loved it so much. :,)
Today was a Masterpiece. So much so that it didn't forget to fire our expectations by included THE dramatic title for next episode. Mushoku Tensei is Goat Through and through. Can't denie it anymore.
I was expencting this review :) Great episode. Awesome
I absolutely loved this episode.
Definitely my favourite so far 😎
Norn is a wonderful character!
Next week turningpoint 3 has me so excited as anime only
NGL THIS WAS THE GREATEST WRITTEN EPISODE IVE SEEN SINCE VINLAND SAGA SEASON 2
I got the chills about the next week episode.
God i really wish, we will get a Nanhoshi and Rudys´brother scene.
I decided to watch the full season of Anohana: The Flower We Saw That Day, and then I immediately jumped to this episode. Yeah, I suffered a death sentence, then came back for more drama. feels like a human centipede now. His apology to Norm also represents the words he wanted or should have said to his brother: "I don't know what to do now."
Thus Rudeous gets the Rude awakenning, or a Very Icy Cold Splash of Water to the Face, When he found out the Reason Norn became a shut-in was not because of bullying that he jump-to-conclusions to, because of the bullying in his past life; But because of him. Must had been Really Ackward afterwards with how he lash out at pple.
And Norn, seeing Rudy at a Total Lost & Sad, made her realize he isn't exactly the monster she envision, Just a Person like she is.
Hopefully now, She can be her Own Person, and Also trust Rudy as well 🙂
God I freaking love this series.
So hyped for Turning Point 3 next week
This kinda reminds me of S1vsS2 Of Vinland Saga. Im enjoying this Arc & it’s been a long time since I’ve felt like I’ve grown up with a Character. The only 2 others come to mind are Eren & Naruto, so I’m hands down rooting for Rudy . Great video man 💯
I was really enjoying the episode and watched the ed for the first time to continue feeling the cathartic vibes and then... I read the next episode name..This show bout to fuck me all the way up
In the end Rude is a broken character which makes him more real than anything. The fact that he walk in the class and ask if Norn was strip down, its so sad I mean it might be meant as a joke but damn. I remember reading this as a manga way before it was even considered for anime and when people started to complain about he was written as a pervert I thought damn people don’t get the fact he died as a 20+ man who never developed social skill what where they aspecting ichigo, luffy, goku. Even now he never took the easy way out his family in japan was of no help cool he did not turn psycho in with a grudge in the new world which made him something different. When his brother said you don’t have to back to school right now is when I realize there was no way out for him his family will never be of any help. What he needed was what he got to start somewhere new. Plus he got the best girl Silphy somebody who was also bullied kindred spirits. While Norn will suffer from low self steam and inferiority complex no one will understand the pain inside his soul something he will carry as a cross but it’s what makes him see pain in others
This shit was deep man what a great ep but im scared for what turning point 3 will bring ooo man.
I'm reasonably certain that everyone has gone through an episode in their life where people are expecting you to be as exceptional as your older siblings who go to or have attended the same school. Piling that up with her other insecurities and the fact that she's in an unfamiliar environment where the only people she knows are the same people she has issues with. Anyone would feel stressed, lost, and depressed. It helped that Rudy didn't try to force her to talk nor did he try scold her. He just apologized and let her work things out.
Can I present to You: a single child?
Rudy letting Norn know that he would be there for her no matter what, and Norn taking a step forward and placing her trust in him.
This show is just soo great. No matter how many times i re-watch this show, it still gets me feeling things. It warms me up to see characters written so well that they actually feel human
Things started getting real when Rudy realized what was really going on with Norn. I was hoping that would happen since Rudy really needed that in order to calm down and figure out what to do based on his own experience in his previous life.
I was a bit worried the anime would focus too much on Rudy's perspective when they went hard on the parallels to his old life. Because I think the Norn POV was the highlight of this volume of the novels.
But fortunately I was worried for nothing, they really did Norn justice in the second half of the episode.
Best anime episode I have seen in years.
Next episode is called Turning Point 3 here we go again lol
Talking about the parallels between Rudeus and Norn, the episode's title is ambiguous as it can apply to either of them. Or both, in fact. "My older brother's feelings"
I like the vids but please my brother in Roxy... it's Moo Show Coo (Mushoku), not Moo Shoe Coo (Mushuku) 😂
I tried to keep quiet for so long but my OCD is taking over. Even if you don't change it keep up the good work o7
Typical mushoku tensei W
Such a wholesome episode, love this arc. Just don't check title of the next episode. :)
I thought this was another fantastic episode and as for anyone who still doesn’t like the series because they find it boring or doesn’t like Rudy, well I’m not going to waste my time, trying to convince them otherwise.
also wow congrats you doubled your subs
huh I didn't double my subs? I get like 1k subs a month on average but ive been at 64k for a bit
@@AHBrandonReviews haha I guess I haven’t checked in a while, I thought you were at like 30k ish 👍
I haven't been at 30k in years haha
That was quite a heavy episode with Rudeus reliving his past momentarily, thinking Norn was going through what he did and then seeing how both Rudeus and Norn did not know what to do to move forward through this.It was sad to see Rudeus' brother trying to get through to him but nothing was working, it is hard to tell if it was it many days or if he had stayed one day for hours but it is upsetting how it eventually made him give up trying to convince Rudeus. I do like that Rudeus can look back at it and understand the hardship that his brother went through and what it really meant that he had given up especially now that he is in that same position.Rudeus in angry big brother mode was interesting, I did laugh at him asking the teacher if she stripped Nor naked but a moment I realized, he's making assumptions based on his own experiences which made it quite sad. The bullying he is familiar with is so extreme that he'd assume that's what anyone would normally go through.
I don't mind MT haters keep watching the show. They're in for a ride with us.
Haaaiidaaa" Turning Point 3"
Me:Haaaiiizzzzaaaaa
Turning Point 3 next week!!! Will we "regret it"?
I really want to hate Norn so much for causing Rudy so much pain, and Rudy never ever did her wrong, he's been good to her and looked after her and treated her better than Rudy has ever been treated. And you can see that Rudy was hurting because of Norn, but this perspective just gave me a gut punch, now I have all this hate, but I know Norn doesn't also deserve it, so what now😅
I agree with you, I don't know how many people don't like Mushoku Tensei, even though this is one of the best isekai drama all time
Next Time: Turning Point 3
Norn has been afraid this entire time that Rudeus might hit her, just like her first memory of Rudeus is him hitting her father. That's one thing they don't really emphasize in this episode. She was PHYSICALLY scared of him, too.
she mentions that and focuses on his fist a decent amount
@@AHBrandonReviewsThat is true, the camera was focused on his fist a lot, so it was definitely implied.
@@AHBrandonReviews - I know. They saved the scene by having her at least mention it. But she really was scared of the guy.
Trying to get MT haters to realize that they're wrong is like arguing with a brick wall so there's no real point in doing it.
They really need to age up Rudeus in the anime so scenes like this hits even harder in the future, I feel like it is very important to show that Rudues has grown not only mentally but also Physically. it has been a long time since any of his family has seen Rudeus and considering we have been meeting them again. Also, a clip on the opening when Rudues and Paul was facing together made me realize that he and Sylphiette looks so similar in height
best isekai😊
Norn is just a normal girl,in the end,just like rudy she can have these problems
yup and the fact Rudy didnt act like his life was harder but rather she was just like him and anyone can have issues that lock them away is HUGE for his character
Typical Isekai: I’ve assembled a harem of bimbos and I effortlessly am powerful.
This: Beauty. Perfection. Life.
This episode encapsuled perfectly what make Mushoku Tensei in its own league when looking at Isekais (only Re Zero maybe could sit at its table).
Unlike most Isekai where pass the 3 first episodes, the former MC's life doesn't matter at all. Here we see perfectly how Rudeus' former life impact his current life in his bad and good decision.
People who dropped Mushoku Tensei because of Rudeus's early creepy behavior are really missing some top tier character development.
And in the manga was even better
she is annoying , did not like her story but im glad its over.