It really is. I am watching this channel almost daily and I still find something new and interesting EVERY single time. The narration is great, the race content as well and the overall content of the videos very well made. A true racing sim inspirtation.
That shot looking down the start finish line, the cars coming in all kicking up clouds of dust, and the pebbles of dirt coming up as they turn the corner... Absolutely gorgeous ❣️
Between This Car, NiceCuppaTea's 1923 GP pack, Gary Paterson's Auto Union Type C, Mantasisg's & AphidGod's Mercedes W125, and both the upcoming 1906-07 & 1934-37 GP packs from A Casual Sim Racer, Assetto Corsa is now shaping up to be the _Spirit of Speed_ of the modern era that we deserve and need. -1906 Renault 3B De l'A.C.F. (wip) -1906 Itala 35/40 HP (wip) -1907 Itala 36/45 HP (wip) -1923 Rolland-Pilain A22 -1923 Sunbeam 2-Litre -1923 Fiat 805-405 -1923 Voisin C6 -1923 Bugatti Type 32 -1923 Delage 2LCV -1927 Delage 15S8 -1934 Auto Union Type A (wip) -1934 Mercedes-Benz W25 (wip) -1937 Mercedes-Benz W25 Streamliner (wip) -1937 Mercedes-Benz W125 -1937 Auto Union Type C These beautiful, scratch-built titans of the Pre- and Inter-war era are some of the most fun cars I've ever driven in a sim, and the more that this era gets expanded upon the better.
Delage also had the best drivers in Robert Benoist - later imprisoned in a concentration camp as he worked for the French resistance - and Albert Divo. Louis Delage spent more than 30000 pounds in his car development until he fell into bankruptcy. Most of is private fortune was spent with this marvelous racing cars. Thanks for the great video.
Ah man I love these pré-war videos! The pré-war era never gets enough attention and credit, especially the 1930s which is probably the greatest Grand Prix decade. Actually very sad that even F1 doesn't acknowledge this era enough. Even the 50s get not enough attention. I actually look forward when people will start modding old Indy 500 cars. That would be amazing! Or pré-war Le Mans.
@@titchpiglet9421 What do you mean? Do you mean spelling or something else? Pré-war generally refers to the first era of Grand Prix racing. After the war, until the late 60s, GP racing took a few steps back in terms of cars and races. It took a while to recover.
I visited the Mercedes Benz museum last week, and seeing these older race cars in person definitely made me appreciate them and, in turn, your videos much more.
"Made myself look like a pro there, but it just kinda happened" Crack me up!!! (it's the little things in sim racing ;) ) Hey, all joking aside...Nice work promoting this GPLaps...Really.
I come to GPLaps' showcases specifically for the historical context of the cars that get released. I daresay he could probably create an automotive history documentary using almost wholly Sim Racing footage.
The 1920s mods are my favourite content for AC. They're such fun to chuck around. Would certainly love to see more of the tracks these cars raced on - I mean, we have the 1923 French GP cars now, the only thing missing is the Tours circuit and you have the full experience right there. Fat Alfie's tracks and Donington 1937 are brilliant - they deserve more companions. (also, just quietly, this type of stuff is the sim racing YT content I always wanted)
@@jamesbehra2690 I would love a sim that would focus on grand prix racing from the 1900's all the way up to 1939. A _Spirit of Speed_ for the current era with the physics and graphics to match. Some of the biggest obstacles would be working out the physics models of the more antiquated suspension systems of the pre-war cars, as well as reliable performance data for the more obscure and poorly-documented cars.
@SouthPawRacer THL has made a fantastic 1920's Opel-Rennbahn, Sergio Loro has the Terramar & 30's Indy, and Italotracks has the Napoli street circuit. Vintage sim racing content is starting to come about at a fair clip nowadays.
Dude, i'm so sorry. Literally thought I was subscribed for months and looked down at the button to realize I'm not. You put so much effort and love into these videos. Keep doing what you do man!
The music. The intro. The infos. The racing. Goosebumps all over. Your videos are just a treasure. Why did it took me so long to find them? - The way you transport the fascination of this era of racing and especially of these cars, is really unique. Can't stop watching your content and will give this special constellation a shot this weekend. 👍- Big thank you for even intensify my passion for AC.
To be fair, while the Delage is a great racing car, the opposition is pretty fragmented in some ways, which, I think, helped it win the Championship in 1927. My take on the subject is, Delage experienced in 1927 what Mercedes would later experience in 1954-55. Basically both teams made something really special, and the opposition, while trying hard to be as good, had other problems which didn't help. Delage, after experiencing a major design flaw in 1926, redesigned the 15 S-8 for 1927 and it became such a good car. It is a pretty intricate machine, but fast and extremely reliable. Bugatti's response is the Type 39A, which, is not really something that could cope with the Delage, considering it is basically a supercharged Type 35 with the single overhead camshaft engine reduced to 1.5 liters, by using a short-stroke crankshaft. So, with the power the car is making (which is less than the Delage is making), it is a comparatively heavy car. Automobiles Talbot had one definite contender, the Talbot 1500 8C GP (also known as the 700 GP, or just as the Talbot-Darracq Grand Prix, I don't know which is its official designation). Designed by former Fiat engineers, this had the same recipe as the Delage, low-slung, with a pretty advanced engine making around 160hp, which is not far from what Delage is making. It is, also quick, but reliability and development was severely stunted by the company's financial problems, in fact, the team closed down after the 1927 French GP. The car's potential is shown when Emilio Materassi bought the cars and ran it in 1928, and his teammates continued to drive it in the next two years, with the Talbot regularly harassing the bigger-engined Bugattis and Alfa Romeo P2s. Then we have Fiat. They made the almost legendary 806. Legendary, because it won the only race it was entered in, and was shortly scrapped, when Fiat stopped racing altogether. Signor Agnelli seems to have been fed up with other companies stealing his engineers for their own racing programs.
Love this channel. Really gets me into all the pre-war stuff. Very evocatively made content. I don't even have a racing sim & it really whets the appetite
@GPLaps Thank you - beautiful, just beautiful!! The Delage is one of my all time favorite race cars and I couldn’t believe to see that you were featuring it. Massive kudos to Mr ‘42’!
Excellent sim (AC), fantastic car, magnificent track, and really amazing vid and comments. One of the greatest sim racing vid ever (and I've seen a lot). Congratulations !
I've been a long time viewer and subscriber to your channel on my personal account, and I've always enjoyed watching your cinematic overviews of AC and GPL cars. Gotta say, it's pretty surreal seeing my own mod featured on this channel. Fantastic job as always. Keep up the good work!
and again GPLaps made an amazing piece of art for all of us to enjoy and learn something new about the deepest and mostly forgotten history of our most beloved sport. thank you GPLaps for this amazing video thank you fourty-too! for this astonishingly digitalized piece of history
Jake you are so so modest about your driving skills. If I was a tenth as good as you I would be really happy. I spend so much time spinning down tracks or diving into the scenery or actually being punted into it by the AI that it becomes quite depressing.
Amazing to see this vintage content coming out. The dirt roads intro looked beautiful. 👌 Just to note it sounds like you're saying "Delange". Should sound like rivage as in the "beau rivage" corner at Monaco.
I hit the [Like] as soon as the intro was finished (didn't want to interrupt it). Obviously, despite your Tweet, by the numbers, there's really no GP car, French-made or otherwise, that matches the Bugatti Type 35 and its derivatives in terms of outright success. That said, I think the Type 35 is perhaps the most mundane to look at. Of course, the Type 35 itself couldn't compete due to the 1.5-liter rules introduced for 1926, so Bugatti had to work with the Types 37 and 39. Maserati had their Tipo 26. Sadly, it took another year for Talbot to get its car really sorted, and then Materassi was killed. In terms of a car itself, the worst fate was that of the Fiat 806, which won the only race it entered, the 1927 Milan GP at Monza. The program had been done in secret, and when management found out, it was shut down and all traces of it were wiped away. And yes, it was a short event (50-km Heats and a 50-km Final), but it's still stunning the pace the Fiat showed, even against 2.0-liter cars. Based on Heat times, Bordino was 4.4 sec faster in his group than Maggi in the 2.0-liter group. Benoist was able to get to only 1.8 sec back, but the Delage team chose to withdraw before the Final. In the Final, Bordino set a Fast Lap 3.8 sec quicker than what he'd done in his Heat, leading Campari in a 2.0-liter Alfa P2 to the line by nearly 40 sec after only 5 laps. Yeah, even much later, Dr. Helmut Marko took a stone to the face at Charade during the 1972 French GP (last time it was held at that circuit). Is that a Bugatti Type 51 you're chasing? If so, it makes sense why it can give you a run for it, being a bit later and having a bigger engine (either 2.0- or 2.3-liter with supercharging, possible 160-180 hp). After this, I guess someone needs to come up with that surface like some of the old start straights seemed to have, where the dirt road was covered with planks. The 1927 French GP was indeed at Montlhery, but not on the oval. It used one of the bankings and the straights, but then went outside the oval and used the whole of the road section that was available, totaling a 12.5-km lap. And as I recall, that time really isn't much slower than what the first 3 1923 cars were doing on the paved version from your earlier video. I'm sure the Delage could shave minutes off that time with the grippier surface. And again, you can't see a bloody thing mired in all that dust. The Spaghetti Western music worked really well with this. I did mention the other main 1927, 1.5-liter cars to Fourty-Too! in the comments. He seems interested in the idea, though he needs to finish the Miramas oval first. (That one's nuts; I'm not sure about the exact banking, but it was large enough at just over 5 km around that you don't need much positive camber to go really fast.) Also talked to Casual Sim Racer in the comments, and he might have a 1934 Alfa and Maser on the way, alongside the Mercedes W25 and Auto Union Type A. The French circuits were more open back then, but not so much with the Germans and the Spanish, to say nothing of the Italians. That was a really fun watch, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Love the intro on this one - not a gamer - too much of a luddite, but love your content .. and historical perspective. Make sure you read Cars at Speed by Robert Daley if you have not already done so.
It would be amazing to see mods on the first motor racing event ever, the paris rouen, but i can imagine how hard it would be to create something like it
Awesome simulation man! Excellent I love it! Wanna play it I bought Assetto Corsa just for that cause I saw your video! Wanna drive the Delage 15S8 hell yeah! What an era! Also a question? Could we get the Fiat's Nazzaro & Bordino cars from the 1922 season?
No, they're splash guards. They're fitted so that stones kicked up by the front wheels would be deflected and won't hit the driver. They're also sometimes fitted in wet weather, as they could reduce the water spray from the front wheels.
One actually raced in non-championship Formula 1 races in the early 1950s. The owner, Rob Walker (the same Rob Walker who became a Formula 1 entrant in the 1950s-1970s) also tried to enter it at the 1950 British GP, but the organizers turned it down, claiming it was "too old"...
Dear Polyphany Digital: I want a game called "Grand Prix" where cars from this era are lovingly detailed with GT7 level graphics. Courses can be reused from GT series but must be redone in period appropriate aesthetic. Multiplayer consists of "scuderias" that have mechanics working on cars in a unique in-game setup pit area (think "WRENCHED" on the PC but simplified) to form multiple teams that race against each other. This would turn a 24 grid race into one with 96 participants (2 drivers, 2 mechanics per team). Make the requisite corporate dystopia microtransactions be for players to create their own livery or to introduce further historic cars. To see the community put out this level of detail in just Assetto Corsa is mind blowing and yet we still haven't seen a developer truly delve into this era. Considering just how much you could do with this level of graphics, this could be a killer app for sim racing in VR if they ever attempted it.
The biggest difficulty for developing cars of this era, let alone tracks, is one unavoidable fact: *a lack of hard data.* So little documentation exists for pre-WWII cars that it's almost impossible to render them accurately. Furthermore, many manufacturers of this era are either completely gone, or their brand is used as a front for a new startup (eg Delage) or absorbed into one of the larger conglomerates (eg Bugatti). Not to mention, so few genuine articles exist that hard running for accurate suspension data & roadfeel testing would be prohibitively expensive, especially if anything should go wrong. Hell, not even post-war cars are safe from this.
This is without a doubt some of the best sim racing content on TH-cam. Every single GPLaps video just seems like a passion project. Great work.
Nobody else does videos like him ... A nostalgia mixed with history and modern Sims coktail.
No, it is crap. JUST KIDDING! 😀
GPLaps = GOAT ❤
It really is. I am watching this channel almost daily and I still find something new and interesting EVERY single time. The narration is great, the race content as well and the overall content of the videos very well made. A true racing sim inspirtation.
That shot looking down the start finish line, the cars coming in all kicking up clouds of dust, and the pebbles of dirt coming up as they turn the corner...
Absolutely gorgeous ❣️
GPLaps never fails to amaze. That intro alone is utterly fantastic!
Ah yes, the seldom sour and much beloved Dick Seaman!
That's why I always refer to him as Richard Seaman. His nickname just elicits giggles, when the man's life and racing career is not really funny.
@@jcgabriel1569 Another unfortunate name in motor racing history has a similar problem; that being Dick Johnson.
BS........................and our late Dick Trickle ............cigarette and all ????
Dick Trickle comes to mind as well!
@@notelpats402 Richard Burns
How can one man make so many videos which are basically mini-documentaries in short periods of time
Loving the pre-war stuff btw!
Check out Historic Sim Studios; they're developing a number of pre-WWII cars at the moment!
5:09 Dick Seaman really made a splash when he came onto the scene!
Imagine naming your child "Dick Semen"
Times were different back then lol
Straight up nailed that intro. Bravo!
Between This Car, NiceCuppaTea's 1923 GP pack, Gary Paterson's Auto Union Type C, Mantasisg's & AphidGod's Mercedes W125, and both the upcoming 1906-07 & 1934-37 GP packs from A Casual Sim Racer, Assetto Corsa is now shaping up to be the _Spirit of Speed_ of the modern era that we deserve and need.
-1906 Renault 3B De l'A.C.F. (wip)
-1906 Itala 35/40 HP (wip)
-1907 Itala 36/45 HP (wip)
-1923 Rolland-Pilain A22
-1923 Sunbeam 2-Litre
-1923 Fiat 805-405
-1923 Voisin C6
-1923 Bugatti Type 32
-1923 Delage 2LCV
-1927 Delage 15S8
-1934 Auto Union Type A (wip)
-1934 Mercedes-Benz W25 (wip)
-1937 Mercedes-Benz W25 Streamliner (wip)
-1937 Mercedes-Benz W125
-1937 Auto Union Type C
These beautiful, scratch-built titans of the Pre- and Inter-war era are some of the most fun cars I've ever driven in a sim, and the more that this era gets expanded upon the better.
Thanks! I'm trying to make sure they live up to the hype.
i would like to see the FIAT S76 on AC!
@@acousticproject6816 Who wouldn't? She's an absolute monster - well deserving of the 'Beast' nickname..
Delage also had the best drivers in Robert Benoist - later imprisoned in a concentration camp as he worked for the French resistance - and Albert Divo. Louis Delage spent more than 30000 pounds in his car development until he fell into bankruptcy. Most of is private fortune was spent with this marvelous racing cars.
Thanks for the great video.
Ah man I love these pré-war videos! The pré-war era never gets enough attention and credit, especially the 1930s which is probably the greatest Grand Prix decade.
Actually very sad that even F1 doesn't acknowledge this era enough. Even the 50s get not enough attention.
I actually look forward when people will start modding old Indy 500 cars. That would be amazing! Or pré-war Le Mans.
Why do you say pre-war like that?
@@titchpiglet9421 What do you mean? Do you mean spelling or something else?
Pré-war generally refers to the first era of Grand Prix racing. After the war, until the late 60s, GP racing took a few steps back in terms of cars and races. It took a while to recover.
@@Yoshiman2024 that's the French word of saying pre-war
@@titchpiglet9421 Oh well yeah sorry, I'm Belgian so maybe just a habit.
"Hon hon, that's one fast baguette"
- Delage 15S8 engineers team
I visited the Mercedes Benz museum last week, and seeing these older race cars in person definitely made me appreciate them and, in turn, your videos much more.
"Made myself look like a pro there, but it just kinda happened" Crack me up!!! (it's the little things in sim racing ;) ) Hey, all joking aside...Nice work promoting this GPLaps...Really.
jesus christ that intro was fucking awesome dude! now i wanna do it myself
Making short films in AC is so fun!
I love the added history and how you explain your driving as you lap the circuit. The best content for classic Sim racing.
I come to GPLaps' showcases specifically for the historical context of the cars that get released. I daresay he could probably create an automotive history documentary using almost wholly Sim Racing footage.
Each video of this guy isn't just racing,it's a old story being told once again of a great legacy
The 1920s mods are my favourite content for AC. They're such fun to chuck around. Would certainly love to see more of the tracks these cars raced on - I mean, we have the 1923 French GP cars now, the only thing missing is the Tours circuit and you have the full experience right there. Fat Alfie's tracks and Donington 1937 are brilliant - they deserve more companions.
(also, just quietly, this type of stuff is the sim racing YT content I always wanted)
Absolutely. Apart from the free content, a 1920s grand prix sim would be a blast but would certainly cost me the divorce 😁🇵🇹
@@jamesbehra2690 I would love a sim that would focus on grand prix racing from the 1900's all the way up to 1939. A _Spirit of Speed_ for the current era with the physics and graphics to match. Some of the biggest obstacles would be working out the physics models of the more antiquated suspension systems of the pre-war cars, as well as reliable performance data for the more obscure and poorly-documented cars.
@SouthPawRacer THL has made a fantastic 1920's Opel-Rennbahn, Sergio Loro has the Terramar & 30's Indy, and Italotracks has the Napoli street circuit. Vintage sim racing content is starting to come about at a fair clip nowadays.
Dude, i'm so sorry. Literally thought I was subscribed for months and looked down at the button to realize I'm not. You put so much effort and love into these videos. Keep doing what you do man!
The music. The intro. The infos. The racing. Goosebumps all over. Your videos are just a treasure. Why did it took me so long to find them? - The way you transport the fascination of this era of racing and especially of these cars, is really unique. Can't stop watching your content and will give this special constellation a shot this weekend. 👍- Big thank you for even intensify my passion for AC.
Excellent video. The cinematics had a real "On Any Sunday" type of feel with the music. Nicely done!
The intro footage is *chef kiss* perfect! Learnt a lot about 20s racing from this video, thank you for making it.
To be fair, while the Delage is a great racing car, the opposition is pretty fragmented in some ways, which, I think, helped it win the Championship in 1927. My take on the subject is, Delage experienced in 1927 what Mercedes would later experience in 1954-55. Basically both teams made something really special, and the opposition, while trying hard to be as good, had other problems which didn't help.
Delage, after experiencing a major design flaw in 1926, redesigned the 15 S-8 for 1927 and it became such a good car. It is a pretty intricate machine, but fast and extremely reliable.
Bugatti's response is the Type 39A, which, is not really something that could cope with the Delage, considering it is basically a supercharged Type 35 with the single overhead camshaft engine reduced to 1.5 liters, by using a short-stroke crankshaft. So, with the power the car is making (which is less than the Delage is making), it is a comparatively heavy car.
Automobiles Talbot had one definite contender, the Talbot 1500 8C GP (also known as the 700 GP, or just as the Talbot-Darracq Grand Prix, I don't know which is its official designation). Designed by former Fiat engineers, this had the same recipe as the Delage, low-slung, with a pretty advanced engine making around 160hp, which is not far from what Delage is making. It is, also quick, but reliability and development was severely stunted by the company's financial problems, in fact, the team closed down after the 1927 French GP. The car's potential is shown when Emilio Materassi bought the cars and ran it in 1928, and his teammates continued to drive it in the next two years, with the Talbot regularly harassing the bigger-engined Bugattis and Alfa Romeo P2s.
Then we have Fiat. They made the almost legendary 806. Legendary, because it won the only race it was entered in, and was shortly scrapped, when Fiat stopped racing altogether. Signor Agnelli seems to have been fed up with other companies stealing his engineers for their own racing programs.
Love this channel. Really gets me into all the pre-war stuff. Very evocatively made content. I don't even have a racing sim & it really whets the appetite
@GPLaps
Thank you - beautiful, just beautiful!! The Delage is one of my all time favorite race cars and I couldn’t believe to see that you were featuring it. Massive kudos to Mr ‘42’!
I absolutely love this channel, the host, cars, tracks, sims, racing and production style are some of the very best
This might have been the most visually appealing video you’ve ever posted. Between the cars, the track, and the dust. Just wonderful.
Your historical overview is simply sublime. Thank you so much for this gist of a video!
Great video mate, that circuit would be awesome fun in a rally car!
Man you knocked it out of the park again. You are proof that you don't need a crazy rig and setup to produce amazing videos.
What a beauty of a video, you have outdone yourself again.
Excellent sim (AC), fantastic car, magnificent track, and really amazing vid and comments.
One of the greatest sim racing vid ever (and I've seen a lot).
Congratulations !
Cant help but keep coming back to this masterpiece of a video!
I've been a long time viewer and subscriber to your channel on my personal account, and I've always enjoyed watching your cinematic overviews of AC and GPL cars. Gotta say, it's pretty surreal seeing my own mod featured on this channel. Fantastic job as always. Keep up the good work!
These videos are awesome, I can't find any other vintage racing content of this quality, keep it up!
there was a guy called Dick Seaman, and you managed not to laugh!
great video again love getting the history around some great cars
Another wonderful, atmospheric and informative video! I love what you do with this channel.
its crazy how low slung it is for 1920s
Great combination of car & track! Love the pre-war cars era!
Your production techniques just get better and better. Great little essay. Jake :) (Bathurst Australia)
Fantastic Intro, great history, nice clean racing. GPLaps producing great stuff yet again.
My man, that intro was insane. Knocked it outta the park with this one.
and again GPLaps made an amazing piece of art for all of us to enjoy and learn something new about the deepest and mostly forgotten history of our most beloved sport.
thank you GPLaps for this amazing video
thank you fourty-too! for this astonishingly digitalized piece of history
Your content is really outstanding. I love classic stuff and there’s so little out there. Thank you
Beautifully put together. Fine work :)
Jake you are so so modest about your driving skills. If I was a tenth as good as you I would be really happy. I spend so much time spinning down tracks or diving into the scenery or actually being punted into it by the AI that it becomes quite depressing.
I downloaded this skin for Font awhile ago, showing us how to make it actually drive as dirt is huge, thanks bud!
Excellent as always - thank you!
This reminds me of the opening to Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. I wouldn’t be sourprised if some of these cars you raced were in the movie.
Dude, you have a cool show here, and that car is freakin' beautiful.
Nice camera work for the opening shot
Brilliant. Great car, Great track, and great presentation. AC is still the sum to go for. Thank you.
Man that looked like so much fun, I'm gonna have to give this a go.
Just 2 hours ago I drove this car on Nordschleife. :-) Great car and great video. Thank you!
I was waiting for this one. Fantastic content man.
This is just a great combination of history and sim-racing
Hey mate, absolutely love this content. Really good stuff. A real credit to you 👍🏼
This is a positive message for the TH-cam algorithm.
5:09 idc I love that name
What a beautiful video, that intro was amazing !! Loving this pre war content .. Great Job !!!
such an underrated channel
Cool track, great looking car. It's quite creepy the way all the spectators are looking back into the camera though!
Great to learn something about a Grand Prix car like this….thanks
Absolutely fascinating, thank you.
Nice! Some Assetto Corsa content! TY GPLaps
Road surfaces by then were compressed gravel/ballast, sometimes with a spray of tar to bind it.
ANOTHER OUTSTANDING PRODUCTION
what an intro! amazing video well done
Something about these old cars reminds me of World War One aircraft. Makes me want to play IL-2 Flying Circus.
Very good video too.
I got hard at that intro, not gonna lie 😂😂😂😂
nahhh
- Creates an amazing race car
- Refuses to elaborate
- Leaves
The BGM seemed to make this even more perfect for me. Can’t really explain the feeling.
and this is why AC is the best sim ever, the amount/diversity of mods is insane
That poor Richard Dick Semen...
excellent and informative. Thank you
Amazing to see this vintage content coming out. The dirt roads intro looked beautiful. 👌 Just to note it sounds like you're saying "Delange". Should sound like rivage as in the "beau rivage" corner at Monaco.
Or simply "Delarge".
Fantastic Intro!
I hit the [Like] as soon as the intro was finished (didn't want to interrupt it).
Obviously, despite your Tweet, by the numbers, there's really no GP car, French-made or otherwise, that matches the Bugatti Type 35 and its derivatives in terms of outright success. That said, I think the Type 35 is perhaps the most mundane to look at.
Of course, the Type 35 itself couldn't compete due to the 1.5-liter rules introduced for 1926, so Bugatti had to work with the Types 37 and 39. Maserati had their Tipo 26. Sadly, it took another year for Talbot to get its car really sorted, and then Materassi was killed.
In terms of a car itself, the worst fate was that of the Fiat 806, which won the only race it entered, the 1927 Milan GP at Monza. The program had been done in secret, and when management found out, it was shut down and all traces of it were wiped away.
And yes, it was a short event (50-km Heats and a 50-km Final), but it's still stunning the pace the Fiat showed, even against 2.0-liter cars. Based on Heat times, Bordino was 4.4 sec faster in his group than Maggi in the 2.0-liter group. Benoist was able to get to only 1.8 sec back, but the Delage team chose to withdraw before the Final.
In the Final, Bordino set a Fast Lap 3.8 sec quicker than what he'd done in his Heat, leading Campari in a 2.0-liter Alfa P2 to the line by nearly 40 sec after only 5 laps.
Yeah, even much later, Dr. Helmut Marko took a stone to the face at Charade during the 1972 French GP (last time it was held at that circuit).
Is that a Bugatti Type 51 you're chasing? If so, it makes sense why it can give you a run for it, being a bit later and having a bigger engine (either 2.0- or 2.3-liter with supercharging, possible 160-180 hp).
After this, I guess someone needs to come up with that surface like some of the old start straights seemed to have, where the dirt road was covered with planks.
The 1927 French GP was indeed at Montlhery, but not on the oval. It used one of the bankings and the straights, but then went outside the oval and used the whole of the road section that was available, totaling a 12.5-km lap.
And as I recall, that time really isn't much slower than what the first 3 1923 cars were doing on the paved version from your earlier video. I'm sure the Delage could shave minutes off that time with the grippier surface.
And again, you can't see a bloody thing mired in all that dust.
The Spaghetti Western music worked really well with this.
I did mention the other main 1927, 1.5-liter cars to Fourty-Too! in the comments. He seems interested in the idea, though he needs to finish the Miramas oval first. (That one's nuts; I'm not sure about the exact banking, but it was large enough at just over 5 km around that you don't need much positive camber to go really fast.)
Also talked to Casual Sim Racer in the comments, and he might have a 1934 Alfa and Maser on the way, alongside the Mercedes W25 and Auto Union Type A.
The French circuits were more open back then, but not so much with the Germans and the Spanish, to say nothing of the Italians.
That was a really fun watch, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Awesome mod! Got to get that content, great video
Great vid. Bathurst was dirt as well. Nurburgring would be great as well.
Love the intro on this one - not a gamer - too much of a luddite, but love your content .. and historical perspective. Make sure you read Cars at Speed by Robert Daley if you have not already done so.
I grew up doing unwise things on dirt roads...the feel of these surface settings are convincing.
Modern F1 needs to be more like this. They don't make em like they used to.
So cool, love this classic stuff!!
It would be amazing to see mods on the first motor racing event ever, the paris rouen, but i can imagine how hard it would be to create something like it
The song in the intro is fire
I just can't believe this being Assetto Corsa!
This is it! SO GOOD!!!!!
Look up Robert Benoist... somebody needs to make a movie about that bad-ass...!!!
Amazing intro!! ✌👍👍
Awesome simulation man! Excellent I love it! Wanna play it I bought Assetto Corsa just for that cause I saw your video! Wanna drive the Delage 15S8 hell yeah! What an era! Also a question? Could we get the Fiat's Nazzaro & Bordino cars from the 1922 season?
hope the riley 9 brooklands gets done. absolute dream car that
Those winglets sticking out the sides near the hood vents also look like a very early attempt at aerodynamic downforce
No, they're splash guards. They're fitted so that stones kicked up by the front wheels would be deflected and won't hit the driver.
They're also sometimes fitted in wet weather, as they could reduce the water spray from the front wheels.
This looks so fun!!
The car really _looks_ ahead of its time.
Could almost be an F1 car of the 50s, in some aspects!
This car could honestly be quite competitive in a pre-1960 Formula Libre race.
One actually raced in non-championship Formula 1 races in the early 1950s. The owner, Rob Walker (the same Rob Walker who became a Formula 1 entrant in the 1950s-1970s) also tried to enter it at the 1950 British GP, but the organizers turned it down, claiming it was "too old"...
Nice dust effect. Need to add a black and white filter on the replays and it would look like a real film
Does anybody know what mods have been used for the other pre-war race cars that appear in the video?
Can you please do the Targa Florio? possibly w realistic tractors and oblivious traffic? thanks in advance...
Does anyone know where i can find some of the other cars from this video?
Richard Seaman is a very unfortunate name (all that aside amazing video as always!)
Dear Polyphany Digital: I want a game called "Grand Prix" where cars from this era are lovingly detailed with GT7 level graphics. Courses can be reused from GT series but must be redone in period appropriate aesthetic. Multiplayer consists of "scuderias" that have mechanics working on cars in a unique in-game setup pit area (think "WRENCHED" on the PC but simplified) to form multiple teams that race against each other. This would turn a 24 grid race into one with 96 participants (2 drivers, 2 mechanics per team). Make the requisite corporate dystopia microtransactions be for players to create their own livery or to introduce further historic cars.
To see the community put out this level of detail in just Assetto Corsa is mind blowing and yet we still haven't seen a developer truly delve into this era. Considering just how much you could do with this level of graphics, this could be a killer app for sim racing in VR if they ever attempted it.
The biggest difficulty for developing cars of this era, let alone tracks, is one unavoidable fact: *a lack of hard data.*
So little documentation exists for pre-WWII cars that it's almost impossible to render them accurately. Furthermore, many manufacturers of this era are either completely gone, or their brand is used as a front for a new startup (eg Delage) or absorbed into one of the larger conglomerates (eg Bugatti). Not to mention, so few genuine articles exist that hard running for accurate suspension data & roadfeel testing would be prohibitively expensive, especially if anything should go wrong. Hell, not even post-war cars are safe from this.