Ikr! But another thing is the amok could be inside of the rings bc felixs dad also died the same yr adriens mother died, His father could have had the ring while it being broken them using it while its broken being near the item the holds the amok caused them to fall into their comas, And guess what, the 2 rings, if u look it up adriens fifth name means immortal, what else is immortal? Sentimonsters.
Some clues from season 1: -the statue in front of the agreste mansion holding two rings -Gabriel saying Adrien isn't like others and that Adrien is perfect -the emilie painting -Adrien's ironic allergy to feathers
Clue in season 5 ep 24 Felix told marinette two twin sister used a peacock miraculous and creating a sentimonster and the amok is in the two rings one for felix and one for adrien
OH his allergy kind of makes more sense if you say feathers instead of pigeons lol Similar to peacock feathers Still the allergy does kind of still exist (I think)
This opened my eyes😱 I just remembered episode Adoration... when Adrian was about to kiss Marinette but suddenly he stopped because he heard his father's voice in his head,telling him to stop and all a sudden he stopped and said he was not feeling well😮😮😮😮
I think he saw him too. Like exactly what we saw he saw as well... I’m not sure if that’s true but it’s something I thought of. Just like I think maybe those who are about to become akumatized may or may not actually see Hawk Moth (etc.) when he’s talking to them.
I see Felix/Argos as a sentimonster guardian, almost. His willingness to protect both Adrien and Kagami (also hinted at being a sentimonster) makes him a pretty morally-grey character - not quite a villain, but he'd stand up to the real heros without hesitation to protect his 'family'. So, more hero than villian but he can still be problematic in the long run. Here's another interesting theory: Do you think Cat Noir is affected by the amok the same way Adrien is? I like to think that because he is a miraculous holder, some loopholes may apply. Just like how villians can't track LB and CN when they've detransformed.
@@jenniferredshaw9436 My long shot theory is, when a miraculous holder transforms, they're receiving their powers through the centuries of experience of the previous holders - think avatar, for example. But through this process, they become more of what they once were, TECHNICALLY becoming entirely different people. This can explain how villains who are tracking Adrien lose the track once he transforms, and vice versa. Or... it could just be lazily explained with something like "yay magic" and have my theory thrown entirely out the window 😅
Knowing this makes the Adrien perfume ad pretty creepy. If you go back and look at it, he's surrounded by little white feathers -- just like the ones the Peacock Miraculous creates.
Did anyone ever notice when Gabriel wants something from Adrien, but Adrien refuses to obey his command Gabriel just rubs his ring. As we know the ring is something essential in the show. So maybe that's the thing that brings Adrien to life. Then there's the part where someone said in the comments that Adrien is allergic to pigeons. And sentimonsters aren't allergic to things. But the thing is that Thomas Astruc said that sentimonsters are supposed to have human lives. Adrien is just perfect. And why would they even show every time Adrien doesn't want to do something, they show Gabriel rubbing the ring? Yeah i'm %90 sure that he's a sentimonster.
Actually spoiler alert it's revealed it was colt fathom who created felix, senti monsters can only create one at a time and in emotion episode we saw felix switch with his ring with adrian's fake ring and i believe that is has amok
I feel like they're definitely sentimonsters. In... emotion, I think it was, Félix called his sentimonster 'Sister' and is extremely upset (to the point he almost cries, and even looks away) when he has to recall the amok.
Actually, both theories stand, but my thought is that Adrien is part human-part sentimonster. So he has human nature and some kind of a sus obedience to his father whitch makes him both. So in s5 ep24 it's revealed that Felix is a senti, Kagami knows it , but doesn't care and loves him. It may be that she's a senti too, since they know they're the same. Anyway let's get to the point , the story said that both two mothers (Emily and Amily) couldn't get pregnant, but with strugle Emily did meanwhile her sister didn't, (maybe Adrien may be a senti too but feligami didn't tell Mari so they wouldn't upset her). So Gabriel gave felix father the peacock miraculous to create him. Since the miraculous was broken, his health condition got worse and he died, leaving Felix away to obtain the ring with the amock. So my theory is: Emilie couldn't get pregnant, so they used the amock, but a miracle happened, the human fetus was created, but it emerged with the sentimonster , creating Adrien a part human-part sentimonster being. Well I know it's stupid but, I really hope he's not a sentimonster, if so Mari would be upset, but considering her character maybe not.😅😊
Emile DID get a baby, Amelie didn’t. Colt got mad and used it for a child. Emilie only used it to help Gabriel in some type of thing Gabriel wanted from the wish
Spoilers Alert! Felix was created by his father and he got his ring when his father died (a good thing actually as he was really cruel towards Felix). We saw his ring in Emotions episode, he takes off his amok and replace it with a copy of Adrian`s ring which is red moon amok Adrien`s amok are two wedding rings together as one item Kagami`s amok is her ring too, she wears it until 19 ep where Felix kidnapped her. When she tried to talk to her mother so she would stop settling her with Adrien and thus disobeyed her her mother takes her ring away, without knowing that Felix changed her amok with fake ring. He recognized her as fellow sentibeing after seeing her ring in Emotions episode, and I assume prepared for that turn of event. He also gave her amok back to her in the end.
Ok if u see the whole 5th season... it's evident that felix is a sentimonster. But however Adrien is not one. Cuz Emili and gabriel was struggling to have a child but the eventually did have one. Later on gabriel gave the peacock miraculous to emili's sister's husband (i don't remember the name 😅) who used it to creat felix. And kagami most probably is a sentimonster too.
@@miss_chelles1338 SPOILERS FOR THE LAST EPISODES OF SEASON 5 The leaks confirm he's indeed a sentimonster. When Felix tells Marinette the story of his creation through metaphors, he reveals that Emilie and Gabriel struggled to have a child but managed to have one somehow (there's a peacock miraculous background when Emilie "gets pregnant", implying that she created Adrien with her miraculous) and then lent the Peacock miraculous to his father so that he would be able to "get his wife pregnant" (i.e. create Felix). Then at the very last episode, Gabriel further confirms that they couldn't have a child and describe Adrien as a "miracle" and Marinette (who at this point know the truth) gives Adrien his parents' rings , all by telling him that he should be in control of his own life. At this point if people will still deny that he's a sentimonster, they're clinically dumb and beyond any kind of reasoning.
@Klara Bielicka LEAK SPOILERS Gabriel and Emilie made Adrien first and then lent the miraculous to Felix's father so that he would be able to create a child. Said father started hating Felix when he learned that he's going to die because of the effects of the miraculous. After one incident, the ring where felix's amok is located was damaged, which hurt Felix and made him realize that his life was tied to said object.
I actually saw that in the episode ephemeral because when Adrienne refused to give Gabriel his miraculous Gabriel just visited with his wedding ring and repeated the order again and then snap Adrian obeys because the wedding ring is what controls him
And then when he disobeyed his father his dad repeated the order but nothing happened at least he tried to repeat the order and nothing happened and then Natalie fidgeting with the ring and then boom obeyed
Yeah thats the main reason I believe Adrien is an Amok at least, if not felix too. It makes me wonder whats going to happens in the future for them both.
I'm still not sure about this theory honestly, but the hints are literally everywhere. And if it's actually canon, I still need the show to adress a few things: 1. Why can't Mayura feel that Chat Noir is a senti-monster? Is it because he's wearing a miraculous? 2. Why was Chat Blanc still alive after literally destroying everything, high-chance his amok ring too? 3. Why did Chat Noir never follow gabriel's words like he did as Adrien? Just like in Simon Says, Gabriel said "nobody can tell me what to do, not even a superhero" yet Chat was still able to take a stand against him and told him to do what he asked him to. At first i thought it was because of the miraculous, but in optigami, we see that shadow moth still managed to control Senti-Carapace despite him wearing a miraculous.
1: The Peacock holder senses the Amok, Adrien doesn't have his 2: Adrien's Amok is split between the two rings, Emilie's survived the Cataclysm. Also notable in the Shanghai special 3: As Cat, Adrien's personality is so different that his father only began to suspect that they were the same when they met face to face. However, thanks to Wayhem in Gorizilla, Adrien was able to completely fool him into believing they're not the same. Add the fact they have hardly ever interacted with each other while Adrien is transformed
Wait, in the episode “Gabriel Agreste” when Felix is about to be akumatized, Gabriel says “ all I have to do is snap my fingers” and he also said “think of your mother think of your friends” that’s enough proof
@@lucapeyrefitte6899 Dunno if I like it or not cuz on one hand it gives a lotta strength to the plot and makes sense why Adrien and Felix look so similar but then again I don't like the thought of them just being "created" rather than born and how it dehumanizes them, also it's so scary that their existence could be erased just by the snap of a finger-
@@CasuallyCruelCrushesClub yeah cuz that’s what George Lucas did with some of the things and the planet Coruscant in Star Wars and Disney Star Wars for the Han Solo and Rogue One movies. Yeah I wouldn’t want Adrien, Felix and Kagami to disappear if their parents were to disappear and people seem to like that Adrian is rep for a abused children storyline. You know so if he disappeared then it wouldn’t be a thing anymore
Its confirmed now that both Adrien and Felix, as well as Kagami are all sentimonsters. The only one who is still clueless on their origin is Adrian, but I feel like him being left in the dark about all this is going to become a major plot point for season 6/7 conflict. Pretty sure "Lila" knows as well with the info she got from a mindcontrolled Natalie. Could be interesting to see if she manages to steal his amok and turn Cat Noir against Ladybug and the other 16 heroes of Paris. It would definitely evenout the playing field. But that's just my theory as to what could happen in the next season.
i'm late bc this was flat out confirmed, but i think it was a lot more telling that felix referred to red moon as his SISTER, not just his friend. "showing remorse" also doesn't quite describe how he felt so much grief about releasing it's existence that he was sobbing in the fetal position, a reasonable reaction in the context of feeling like he murdered one of his own
I have this teory, that Adrien died. However, Emely could not hold the pain and decided to use the Peacook miraculous to bring Adrien back to live, but as consequence of this she end up in coma.
nah I dont think so but I hope not and I hope adrien isnt a sentimonster and that hes a real person cuz he and marinette are made for eachother adrien cant be.
Yup, Kagami is the last one, and they explicitly call Adrian and Felix "Miraculous Children", they say how Felix's Father used the peacock miraculous to give him life and how their lives are linked to their respective amok holder, it'll all make sense when the episode comes out, they used another sentimonster to tell the truth as an act. Kagami has always had her amok, but it's taken away from her as she is not longer worthy (said by her mom) but Felix gets it back (something about using a duplicate). Don't worry, they will show and say it explicitly in an episode, also Marinnette says that Adrien "has already learned how to live", yeah she will know, actually, she is the one Felix and Kagami go to for help.
@@emmatejada5783 It's so hard waiting for these episodes to come out! I'm so scared for Adrian and Marinette knowing at any moment his Amok can be found and poof! Ladybug said there is no way to reverse or fix a Senti-monsters dismissal. The ladybugs can fix literal death but cannot recreate that which was just a feather.
I thought only Felix is a sentimonster? I remember his little theatre story with Kagami in the last four episodes of season 5 (I can’t remember which one). He said that the girl who married the tailor (indicating Emilie and Gabriel) got pregnant but her sister couldn’t, so her sister’s husband, asked the tailor (Gabriel) for the miraculous to have a child. That explains why Felix looks exactly the same as Adrien, cuz he was copied from Adrien
I'm having a hard time believing that both Adrien and Felix are both Senti-Monsters, here's why. Emilie's in a comatose state because she was using the damaged Peacock Miraculous, so if they were actually created by her, they would have both been destroyed the moment she fell ill since the Amok was controlled by the power of the Peacock Miraculous holder....
spoilers: 1. its canon and confirmed. adrien and felix are sentimonsters (and probably kagami) 2. they can have emotions, feelings, thoughts, etc. but they cant do something if ordered NOT too. basically they dont need orders to do something, but if ordered not to do it they cant disobey (this is likely why felix randomly apologizes to the sentimonsters being thrown into the sun in the season 4 finale)
Sentimonsters are controlled by anyone who bears the amok, not by the peacock miraculous holder*, so that's why Emily's condition is not related to both of the boys ig
@@mythical.toasterRemember something when sentimonsters are cataclysmed they go out of control ep miraculer catnoir doesn't go out of control It just causes damage to both adrien and plagg
Spoilers . . . . . Remember how distraught Adrien was when Natalie made the sentimonster of ladybug disappear? It's like he knew she was as real as he was. Even though he didn't know he was a sentimonster, he deeply empathised with her experience.
Okay this is my theory why adrien is not a sentimonster -He's allergic to feathers and sentimonsters are supposed to be perfect they can't have allergies and no there is no such thing as creating an allergy to reduce suspicion -We all know that when sentimonsters are cataclysmed they go out of control in episode miraculer when catnoir is cataclysmed it doesn't make him go out of control it just internally damages adrien and plagg if you're gonna say why doesn't he have a wound and dies like monarch at the end of miraculer ladybug uses her miraculous ladybug undoing the damage caused to catnoir whereas in destruction monarch takes the luckycharm with him which means ladybug can't fix him -I personally think adrien follows every order of his father because he doesn't want him to keep adrien confined at home again if he disobeys gabriel and his father gets mad he won't let him go to school or have friends -Felix and adrien being twins has happened in real life when two twins gave birth there childs were identical twins and considered brothers instead of cousins
One question ⁉️ its most possible thing that adrien is a senti-monster but in one episode i guess Sabrina's accumatization,cat noir got cataclysm nd sentimonsters get out of control after cataclysm but he just felt weak but was aware of what he was doing!! I meam I don't know but yah!
I think the akuma that Adrien is controlled by is Gabriel’s ring notice how whenever Adrien rebels gabriel he touches his ring to calm down is sentimonstwe
I actually think dat the ring Felix is wearing is hes amok. Remember Amelie (hes Mother) saying: Now that hes father isn’t here to stop him…. (She can’t finish her sentence). Maybe that ring was first from him? And btw, i thought that the holder off the miraculous only can create 1 amok at once, and only can create a new one when she destroyed the old one.
Now that Felix is spoiler alert a hero if Adrien loses his ring Plagg is going to mix up Felix for Adrien I wouldn’t be surprised you know it’s going to happen one day I wouldn’t be surprised.
I for sure think Felix is a sentimonster but Adrien isn’t. This is just my interpretation of s5ep24/25. If In the story he tells Marinette (with Kagami's help), the two sisters are Emilie and Amelie, with the husbands being Adrien and Felix's dads. Both sisters had fertility struggles, but Emelie was finally able to conceive. Colt got angry when he saw that Amelie's sister was able to have a baby but not her, so he threatened Gabriel. My first theory is that Gabriel gave Colt the Peacock to create Felix; this would explain why his dad ended up hating him/calling him a monster plus it would account for his death. My other theory is that Emelie used the Peacock to create Felix because she wanted to make her sister happy; this would explain why she got sick.
'Adrien its a sentimonster because in Represneation during Felix and kagami story,they said that Emilie got pregangt it was a MIRACLE which clearly they was talking about the Peacok Miraculous.Also when they show Emilie being pregangnt,there is Peacock's feather.Your theory of Emilie being who created Felix its wrong cuz it was Colt Fathom,Amelie's husband and Felixs father,who used the Peacok Miraculous to. crtate Felix,since he was jeaolus that Gabriel and Emilie could have a heir to the Graham de Vanilli family.Gabriel offered Colt to loan the Peacok Miraculous in exchange for a bodyguard to their son,which it turned out to be Placide I.T.(Adrien's bodyguard ).Beacuse Colt used the damagde Peacock Miraculous,he eventually got sick and dad.
It did get revealed and I think the girl was kagami??? But if that's true than is Adrian a sentimonster because sentimonsters can't be like humans and Adrian is allergic to feathers so idk about Adrian but kagami and Felix yes
@@bismaibraheem6554 hello'.In Represneation it was already confirmed ,that both are sentimosnter duh.Both Emilie and Amilie couldnt have children,so the Miraculous of the Peacok Miraculous were used to create their sons
Also in the last episode of season six Marinette says: Adrien you’re the only one who can decide what you make of YOUR life. She says that after putting the double wedding rings on his finger. Which means that Adrien is now in control of his own power!
At the time they found the peacock & butterfly miraculous the peacock miraculous wasn’t broken, something happened in their past that broke the peacock miraculous
Here Adrien, Adrian can't be a senti-monster because he is actually caring for others and then master fu haven't gave him the miraculous and PLAGG should have knew he's a sentimonster from the start and + he is allergic to feathers but feather is what is used to create the Senti so I don't think Adrien is sus.
Those things don't go against all the rules of the peacock miraculous It has been literally proven in "Ladybug " episode that sentimonsters have feelings as well so they can care for others Master fu doesn't know and cannot know Adrien is a sentimonster so he just gave him the miraculous to someone who deserved it It has never been established that kwami could feel sentimonsters 🤷🏻♀️ so no Plagg should not necessarily know he is a sentimonster Him being allergic to feathers doesn't prove he is not a sentimonster, it is really just an allergy or a hint he is actually a sentimonster because it is ironic
Nah the sentimonster theory has been confirmed in the panel episodes Sentimonsters struggle with understanding emotion at first, but with external influence they can learn. That’s what happened to Adrien, his mother taught him to love, and going to school taught him more emotions.
Actually in one episode (Optigami)..Hawkmoth create Nino's Sentimonster .Even ladybug trusted him & Gave the Turtle Miraculous..so Wayzz also Couldn't Figure out the sentimonster.. however ladybug Fix everything at end
I believe Felix may be but not Darien otherwise how could he control himself against his own father when he says “give me your miraculous” because whether he knows it or not Gabriel is hawk moth and has the ring in his possession so how would that work? Also I think Felix’s amuck doesn’t lie with Gabriel and never did, I don’t know who it would be it’s but it isn’t Gabriel
Is it just me. Because, I'm thinking differently. My theory is that Adrien and Felix are one and they have just been separated in which all the good traits and personalities will go to Adrien the absolute good in which he cannot disobey his father Gabriel. While Felix has the power to disobey and even obtain power and control because he got all the negative traits of adrien. But if, they are indeed, just one person who was split into two in which her mother paid the price that's why she is currently in coma. Would be the reason why this whole scenarios all makes sense and why Gabriel behave that way.
In addition, to that this kept me thinking about Felix mother and Adrien's mother. Maybe, Adrien's mother used the peacock miraculous to replace the unborn child of Felix Mother in which case Felix is created on the same appearance of Adrien because Adrien's Mother Twin her baby might have died. Or maybe there was a time in which the Ladybug and Catnoir of the Old timeline almost got defeated and the consequence of that is having another replica of Adrien's mother and him in which the timeline got combined and their memories were replaced and that's the whole reason why they think their related for the balance of the world to work or something like that and to justify their existence all their memories were erased. And in this new timeline Felix and Adrien Exist in which Adrien's mother paid the price. But this is just my own imagination and opinion 😅. There are many theories but sometimes we don't need to delve deeper to things. Let's just wait for the story to unfold! Hoping for next episode and season for Miraculous Ladybug and more characters growth in which the end is when she got all the miraculous back.
It’s been confirmed that they are indeed sentimonsters. Spoilers ahead: Adrien and Felix are not one of the same, their mothers both struggled to have kids (I think they were impotent from inbreeding) and their fathers were desperate. Gabriel got his hands on the peacock miraculous and so emilie used it to create Adrien inside her stomach, and she gave birth to him. Then Amelie (Felix’s mom) also was desperate for a child, cause her husband was abusive and needed an heir for his kingdom (yes emelie and Amelie were princesses but emilie ran away to marry gabriel. Amelie was left behind and was forced into an arranged marriage with another noble). So gabriel struck a deal with felix’s dad, and he lent the peacock to Amelie, so she also got pregnant with Felix using the miraculous. The reason why Felix and Adrien look so similar is precisely because their mothers are twins, they have no genes from their fathers, only their mothers. Their mothers are twins and have the same genetic code, and so Adrien and Felix also have the same genetic code. They are pretty much like twins themselves. Felix figured out he was a sentimonster because his father (a duke) constantly used the ring with his amok to manipulate, order and abuse him, even going so far as to accidentally putting a crack in the ring from throwing it, this in turn caused great pain to Felix. Then his dad died, and Felix finally got a hold on the ring. He realised that Adrien was also like him, being manipulated by Gabriel and tries to save Adrien by getting his hands on Gabriel’s ring to save Adrien. Once he gets the peacock miraculous, he is also able to sense other amok. He sense an amok in kagami’s family ring as well. So ya, kagami is also a sentimonster. Tsurumi (kagami’s mom) also created kagami some time in the past, but it isn’t explained how, or when. Just blatantly implied that kagami is also a sentimonster. Gabriel and Emilie created Adrien with love using the peacock, but Felix was created out of anger, desperation and fear (his dad and Amelie). That’s probably why he’s more temperamental, impulsive, and desperate. Kagami was also most likely created with the ideal to not feel or understand emotions, since that’s what her mom keeps parroting.
Thomas Astrid creating a kids show about superhero’s defeating villains The fandom totally making up random things and theories about how Emily is a photograph come to life 💀💀💀
The fact that one time in season 3 the peacoc made ladybug senti monster and ladybug and cat noir got her too be on their team and that means they don’t really always hear too the owner that made the senti moster
This comments gonna be kinda long...(SPOILER ALERT IF YOUR NOT CAUGHT UP ON SOME RECENT EPISODES) Adrien and Felix are most likely sentimonsters, reasons to support my theories include... Sentimonsters can only be controlled by the holder of the peacock miraculous or by the item which an amok is located in, reasons to support that amok's are located in the 2 wedding rings include the fact in which during a recent episode (maybe late season 4/early season 5) we discover that gabriel can't order adrien... He then reaches for the ring on his finger and seeing its not there his face lights up in shock. Another point is Felix returned the ring when he became the peacock holder. Because only the holder of the peacock miraculous or someone with an object that has an amok in it can control sentimonsters, this means Felix could control himself with the ring but doesn't need it anymore as the holder of the peacock miraculous... Another point, Kagami? Yes that's right in recent episodes we see that Felix has taken notice to the ring on kagami's finger, now we might think nothing of it but Kagami had used some interesting wording earlier on in the episode regarding how you choose to follow orders, if she was a sentimonsters and had her own ring that would be her choice, but later on her mother takes this ring away from her during an argument(after gabriel says you need to have control over your daughter) .... Why is a good question, when Felix and Kagami meet up later Felix hands her the ring and says the one you gave your mother was a copy, why would this be? If hints very strongly towards kagami being sentimonsters... Another point is Felix literally called the red moon his sister and friend... These are just recaps of some episodes but there is alot of hints towards them being sentimonsters at the end of the day, if you have a way to counteract my opinion go ahead as I would love to hear what you have to say, also on an unrelated note, we are getting to see more and more of felix's caring side yet it does ponder the question to why he doesnt tell anyone he knows who Monarch (shadow moth /hawkmoth) is.
I think I have a theory, What say we actually wait to find out if Adrien is a senti-monster in till we 'ACTUALLY' see proof of that possibility, but in till then, but if he is on What if Adrien's amok is both of the Graham Di Vanly rings? we've seen Akumas get split in half in episodes before, what's to say that Amoks can't do the same thing, their powers split between the 2 rings for like 1 to give orders and one to counter-mend those orders just like what Natalie did when Gabi forced Adrien to call it off with Marinette.
@@Joyboy_a24u I'm glad you agree, because we humans sometimes jump to conclusions and start speculating things like "Ooo, Gabriel is touching his ring, that means Adrien is a sentimonster" oh please, people touch things all the all the time when their nervous or stressed or horny, but in Gabriel's case I betcha he hasn't wacked one off in years.
3:11, or Felix's father was sterile and Asked Gabriel for a donation in which Felix's father found out the idea horribly backfired on him to where Felix knows and is trying to cover it up because that would mean Adrian and Felix are half brothers and Adrian is first born.
4:11, why would Gabriel have the object holding Felix's feather/amok? Also, wouldn't that mean Felix should have obeyed Gabriel without any questions or tried to resist him?
5:41, if Gabriel is currently holding the ring that should control Adrian, then why doesn't Chat Noir obey Hawkmoth whenever he demands him to give his miraculous to him?
7:15, as in he could literally use Felix's family traditions against him by revealing the truth he has kept secret till now. Which I'm assuming that the first born son in high class society gets everything in the family while second born and below have to figure out what they do in life.
8:23, if he "did" hand over the ring holding the amok then having the miraculous is pointless since all Gabriel needs to do is smash it with a hammer or force Felix to return the miraculous and never leave England/Great Britain ever again.
Their is no actual proof of that, so in till we see Felix and Adrien vaporize in a purple cloud, don't believe these theories of Adrien being a sentimonter.
spoilers: 1. its canon and confirmed. adrien and felix are sentimonsters (and probably kagami) 2. they can have emotions, feelings, thoughts, etc. but they cant do something if ordered NOT too. basically they dont need orders to do something, but if ordered not to do it they cant disobey (this is likely why felix randomly apologizes to the sentimonsters being thrown into the sun in the season 4 finale)
If a sentimonster was cataclysmed they would go crazy but in the miraculular episode adrien was cataclysmed and he did not go crazy. Sentimonsters can take any form but they can not have human emotions they can only fake it if they are told to Adrien is afraid to disobey his fathers orders Gabriel forbid Adrien from dating marinette and he still does it even when Gabriel gives orders he would not be able to
spoilers: 1. its canon and confirmed. adrien and felix are sentimonsters (and probably kagami) 2. they can have emotions, feelings, thoughts, etc. but they cant do something if ordered NOT too. basically they dont need orders to do something, but if ordered not to do it they cant disobey (this is likely why felix randomly apologizes to the sentimonsters being thrown into the sun in the season 4 finale)
Adrien (to Gabriel): I DIDN’T ASK TO GET MADE! I didn’t ask to be mentally torn apart and put back together over and over being treated as some…some little monster!!!
@@FireBreather626glad you understood my reference. Only in this case he’s not experimented on, he’s forced into being a model and being abused by Gabriel.
Im pretty sure it’s just Felix being a senti monster. Because when Kagami and Felix did the „Roleplay“ to reveal the truth to marinette they showed that one of the sisters actually got a child naturally but the other sister got jealous and then created the senti monster… or did I get something wrong there?
I feel like the people who insist that Adrien/Felix/Kagami can't be sentimonsters because they're 'too human' are forgetting that that's specifically what they were created to be. They were literally designed with the purpose of being their parents' children because (at least in Felix's and Adrien's case) their parents couldn't conceive naturally, so of course they would be as human as it was possible for the peacock miraculous to make them. On a similar note, even if they did not initially have their own personality beyond that of being what their parents wanted them to be, we know from Sentibug that sentimonsters can develop their own identity over time and those three have definitely been on this earth for long enough to have done so.
Wiat if Adrian was a senti-monster, wouldn't have mayura have felt energy of an amuck nearby, because I remember the episode where master fu's old peacock miatake was released from the statue soo... idk thats just why I think Adrian is not a senti-monster
mayura knows abt the sentimonster shenanigans. spoilers: 1. its canon and confirmed. adrien and felix are sentimonsters (and probably kagami) 2. they can have emotions, feelings, thoughts, etc. but they cant do something if ordered NOT too. basically they dont need orders to do something, but if ordered not to do it they cant disobey (this is likely why felix randomly apologizes to the sentimonsters being thrown into the sun in the season 4 finale)
My theory is that Felix desperately wanted the peacock miraculous so nobody could remove them from existence and no other senti monster can be destroyed that’s why he chose that miraculous instead of any other because like he could have had time or somet but he doesn’t he wanna insures his safety and Adrian
1:55 okay so it has been told on several occasions that Emilie used the peacock miraculous so- 2:50 Again Adrian and Felix look similar and stuff but it could be that its a huge resesive gene it doesn’t prove anything it is never explained it’s literally because of the original comics and Felixs main role 3:44 AGAIN HE WANTED IT FOR HIS MOM CAUSE ITS FROM HER SIDE OF THE FAMILY NOT THE AGRESTES 4:30 AGAIN THE SHOW HAS EXPLAINED THISSSSS AHHHHHHHH 5:17 AGAIN HE IS CLOSER TO WINNING AND STUFF HE LOVES THE RING AND ITS APART OF HIS WISHHHHH 9:06 BECAUSE HE FREAKING GOT CLOSE OMFG THIS IS SAD THERE IS FREAKING EVIDENCE-
I knew it from the start also did u mention when Adrien and Marinette almost kissed Gabriel was talking in his mind- what happens when people are sentimonsters.
Another one is that argos/felix created the red moon sentimonster for adrien and they are prob both sentimonsters that want to be free (like the ladybug sentimonster that mayura created)
It is clear that Adrian and Felix are sentimonsters but it wasn't supposed to be a truth from season 1 to 4. They started this project at season five cuz from seasons 1 to 4 we had no clue
But......... felix was created by his father chlot fhatom soo gabriel can't destroy him unless he has the object with the amok so does that mean he has the object? sorry those are spoilers btw
I found it extremely interesting felix seemed like he had his own free will to help people once he got the peacock miraculous, Wouldnt it have been something if the reason he came off as evil is Gabrielle was feeding him negative emotions Or something like that
In on episode it says that Adrien is actually a real child but Felix's mother realized she couldn't have children and that's when Adrien's father gave the peacock miraculous to Felix's father so he could create felix
The one thing I wonder is why Adrian didn’t grabbed the peacock miraculous and if he even didn’t no what it look like plagg could have told him cause he used to be with master fu
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I’m surprised you didn’t mention that Felix specifically he called the red moon his “friend” and “SISTER!”
Honestly that was HUGE
Nice catch, though I assumed it was a reference to the Canticle of Creation, with brother sun and sister moon.
IKR
Ikr! But another thing is the amok could be inside of the rings bc felixs dad also died the same yr adriens mother died, His father could have had the ring while it being broken them using it while its broken being near the item the holds the amok caused them to fall into their comas, And guess what, the 2 rings, if u look it up adriens fifth name means immortal, what else is immortal? Sentimonsters.
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Some clues from season 1:
-the statue in front of the agreste mansion holding two rings
-Gabriel saying Adrien isn't like others and that Adrien is perfect
-the emilie painting
-Adrien's ironic allergy to feathers
I wouldn't say that this was planned all the way back from season one, but yeah it kind of makes sense for a character like Adrien.
The Amok miraculous when using it
Theres a feather
Maybe it’s connected
Clue in season 5 ep 24
Felix told marinette two twin sister used a peacock miraculous and creating a sentimonster and the amok is in the two rings one for felix and one for adrien
OH his allergy kind of makes more sense if you say feathers instead of pigeons lol
Similar to peacock feathers
Still the allergy does kind of still exist (I think)
Bruh Every time Gabriel moves his ring, adrien coincidently has to obey pretty obvious
This opened my eyes😱
I just remembered episode Adoration... when Adrian was about to kiss Marinette but suddenly he stopped because he heard his father's voice in his head,telling him to stop and all a sudden he stopped and said he was not feeling well😮😮😮😮
Ya that scene literally confirmed this theory for me
Yeah that was huge to me
I think he saw him too. Like exactly what we saw he saw as well... I’m not sure if that’s true but it’s something I thought of. Just like I think maybe those who are about to become akumatized may or may not actually see Hawk Moth (etc.) when he’s talking to them.
I see Felix/Argos as a sentimonster guardian, almost. His willingness to protect both Adrien and Kagami (also hinted at being a sentimonster) makes him a pretty morally-grey character - not quite a villain, but he'd stand up to the real heros without hesitation to protect his 'family'. So, more hero than villian but he can still be problematic in the long run.
Here's another interesting theory: Do you think Cat Noir is affected by the amok the same way Adrien is? I like to think that because he is a miraculous holder, some loopholes may apply. Just like how villians can't track LB and CN when they've detransformed.
Yes totally agree
he's a great anti-hero!
I think he’s the perfect example of a anti-hero, does wrong things for the right reasons
I can't see Adrian as a sentimonster only because Gabriel could have easily given cat noir a vague order and confirmed the identity of Adrian.
@@jenniferredshaw9436 My long shot theory is, when a miraculous holder transforms, they're receiving their powers through the centuries of experience of the previous holders - think avatar, for example. But through this process, they become more of what they once were, TECHNICALLY becoming entirely different people. This can explain how villains who are tracking Adrien lose the track once he transforms, and vice versa. Or... it could just be lazily explained with something like "yay magic" and have my theory thrown entirely out the window 😅
There's another point, Felix had called the Red Moon his sister
YEAH
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@@imyellow-uk8ux it's not 111 yet ig?
The number 1 hint... Gabriel like rubbing his wedding ring when he didn't want to do what his dad's orders.
I noticed that too
Knowing this makes the Adrien perfume ad pretty creepy. If you go back and look at it, he's surrounded by little white feathers -- just like the ones the Peacock Miraculous creates.
Did anyone ever notice when Gabriel wants something from Adrien, but Adrien refuses to obey his command Gabriel just rubs his ring. As we know the ring is something essential in the show. So maybe that's the thing that brings Adrien to life. Then there's the part where someone said in the comments that Adrien is allergic to pigeons. And sentimonsters aren't allergic to things. But the thing is that Thomas Astruc said that sentimonsters are supposed to have human lives. Adrien is just perfect. And why would they even show every time Adrien doesn't want to do something, they show Gabriel rubbing the ring? Yeah i'm %90 sure that he's a sentimonster.
Actually spoiler alert it's revealed it was colt fathom who created felix, senti monsters can only create one at a time and in emotion episode we saw felix switch with his ring with adrian's fake ring and i believe that is has amok
Yes I totally agree with you 👍 💯
It was confirmed the reason Felix wanted the peacock miraculous so no senti monsters won’t be made for personal gain like how Gabriel does
Cuz he's one 🧐🧐
I think it's confirmed now that Felix is a senti monster in season 5
I think kagami is as well a sentimonster hinting in the episode with her and felix showing her the real jewel that was passed down by her family
I also think same 🤔
@@SapanaBhingarkar no she is
I feel like they're definitely sentimonsters.
In... emotion, I think it was, Félix called his sentimonster 'Sister' and is extremely upset (to the point he almost cries, and even looks away) when he has to recall the amok.
That’s the biggest hint Felix is a sentimonster
"Felix.. Where's Adrian, Where's Adrian!"
" DU PEN CHENG!!"
*Kicks*
LOLLL
You forgot to say in the NUTS/GROIN LLLLLOOOOOOLLLLLLL
I came back and I don't even know why I commented 😭
Actually, both theories stand, but my thought is that Adrien is part human-part sentimonster. So he has human nature and some kind of a sus obedience to his father whitch makes him both. So in s5 ep24 it's revealed that Felix is a senti, Kagami knows it , but doesn't care and loves him. It may be that she's a senti too, since they know they're the same. Anyway let's get to the point , the story said that both two mothers (Emily and Amily) couldn't get pregnant, but with strugle Emily did meanwhile her sister didn't, (maybe Adrien may be a senti too but feligami didn't tell Mari so they wouldn't upset her). So Gabriel gave felix father the peacock miraculous to create him. Since the miraculous was broken, his health condition got worse and he died, leaving Felix away to obtain the ring with the amock.
So my theory is: Emilie couldn't get pregnant, so they used the amock, but a miracle happened, the human fetus was created, but it emerged with the sentimonster , creating Adrien a part human-part sentimonster being.
Well I know it's stupid but, I really hope he's not a sentimonster, if so Mari would be upset, but considering her character maybe not.😅😊
Adrien is NOT A SENTIMONSTER
Emile DID get a baby, Amelie didn’t. Colt got mad and used it for a child. Emilie only used it to help Gabriel in some type of thing Gabriel wanted from the wish
@@Bossman79111that's bullshit
@@Bossman79111 He is season five
Tell us that
Spoilers Alert!
Felix was created by his father and he got his ring when his father died (a good thing actually as he was really cruel towards Felix). We saw his ring in Emotions episode, he takes off his amok and replace it with a copy of Adrian`s ring which is red moon amok
Adrien`s amok are two wedding rings together as one item
Kagami`s amok is her ring too, she wears it until 19 ep where Felix kidnapped her. When she tried to talk to her mother so she would stop settling her with Adrien and thus disobeyed her her mother takes her ring away, without knowing that Felix changed her amok with fake ring. He recognized her as fellow sentibeing after seeing her ring in Emotions episode, and I assume prepared for that turn of event. He also gave her amok back to her in the end.
Feather allergy
And "you two are... of the same design."
"Those two were made for each other."
Ok if u see the whole 5th season... it's evident that felix is a sentimonster. But however Adrien is not one. Cuz Emili and gabriel was struggling to have a child but the eventually did have one. Later on gabriel gave the peacock miraculous to emili's sister's husband (i don't remember the name 😅) who used it to creat felix. And kagami most probably is a sentimonster too.
But Didn't you JUST say Emilie and Gabe was struggling to have a child???
@@miss_chelles1338
SPOILERS FOR THE LAST EPISODES OF SEASON 5
The leaks confirm he's indeed a sentimonster. When Felix tells Marinette the story of his creation through metaphors, he reveals that Emilie and Gabriel struggled to have a child but managed to have one somehow (there's a peacock miraculous background when Emilie "gets pregnant", implying that she created Adrien with her miraculous) and then lent the Peacock miraculous to his father so that he would be able to "get his wife pregnant" (i.e. create Felix). Then at the very last episode, Gabriel further confirms that they couldn't have a child and describe Adrien as a "miracle" and Marinette (who at this point know the truth) gives Adrien his parents' rings , all by telling him that he should be in control of his own life. At this point if people will still deny that he's a sentimonster, they're clinically dumb and beyond any kind of reasoning.
Can anyone tell me from where can I watch season 5?
@Klara Bielicka LEAK SPOILERS
Gabriel and Emilie made Adrien first and then lent the miraculous to Felix's father so that he would be able to create a child. Said father started hating Felix when he learned that he's going to die because of the effects of the miraculous. After one incident, the ring where felix's amok is located was damaged, which hurt Felix and made him realize that his life was tied to said object.
lol how can kagami be a sentimonseter she is clearly a real person
Here’s the thing for Adrian, senti-monsters don’t have natural human things and Adrian’s allergic to pigeons so he wouldn’t be a senti-monster.
Agreed
The show itself conformed it that adrien is a sentimonster
@@sulglia92611 when?🙃
@@MyFandomAcadamia th-cam.com/video/Ed_TzmaAFbU/w-d-xo.html
This is the spoiler of one of the episodes
@@sulglia92611when?
You are growing rapidly, congrats on 3k (sorry I’m late)
Also remember when gabriel gave the ring to natalie and said hes trusting her with the ring AND HER SON
Don’t forget the “Adrien…” *creepy Gabriel leaning in* “NO.”
It must be Nathalie’s ring that contains the amok since she was able to give a counter order
Didn't Felix call red moon sister when erasing it from existence? Something I heard in the episode after he called it a friend 🤔
True like how is that not there
I actually saw that in the episode ephemeral because when Adrienne refused to give Gabriel his miraculous Gabriel just visited with his wedding ring and repeated the order again and then snap Adrian obeys because the wedding ring is what controls him
And then when he disobeyed his father his dad repeated the order but nothing happened at least he tried to repeat the order and nothing happened and then Natalie fidgeting with the ring and then boom obeyed
Yeah thats the main reason I believe Adrien is an Amok at least, if not felix too. It makes me wonder whats going to happens in the future for them both.
Have u watched the panel episodes
@Kai 5 nope, does that give more detail or is it just going to spoil the new episodes? 🤔
@@firefly8589 ya, more detail and spoils.
The panel episodes explain a lot but also leaves me with more questions that answers honestly
I'm still not sure about this theory honestly, but the hints are literally everywhere. And if it's actually canon, I still need the show to adress a few things:
1. Why can't Mayura feel that Chat Noir is a senti-monster? Is it because he's wearing a miraculous?
2. Why was Chat Blanc still alive after literally destroying everything, high-chance his amok ring too?
3. Why did Chat Noir never follow gabriel's words like he did as Adrien? Just like in Simon Says, Gabriel said "nobody can tell me what to do, not even a superhero" yet Chat was still able to take a stand against him and told him to do what he asked him to. At first i thought it was because of the miraculous, but in optigami, we see that shadow moth still managed to control Senti-Carapace despite him wearing a miraculous.
1: The Peacock holder senses the Amok, Adrien doesn't have his
2: Adrien's Amok is split between the two rings, Emilie's survived the Cataclysm. Also notable in the Shanghai special
3: As Cat, Adrien's personality is so different that his father only began to suspect that they were the same when they met face to face. However, thanks to Wayhem in Gorizilla, Adrien was able to completely fool him into believing they're not the same. Add the fact they have hardly ever interacted with each other while Adrien is transformed
@user-88aciinara i agree
Argos red moon also makes real people disappear by snaping his fingers the irony
It would explain Felix reaction to the sentimonsters and why Adrienne can't disobey his father when he touch his rings.
Wait, in the episode “Gabriel Agreste” when Felix is about to be akumatized, Gabriel says “ all I have to do is snap my fingers” and he also said “think of your mother think of your friends” that’s enough proof
So what would happen if those two rings broke, would Adrien just go “poof”?
yep. the cat ring would probably fall to the ground. idk if his clothes and stuff would though
Proof
adrien wtf Me poof
edit adrien wtf (poof)
my favorite part was "DU-PEN-CHENG! KE-WA!"
😂😂😂 Chloe don't be mad at Marinette she just wanted to go to a ball to see Adrien
AND THE THEORY FINALLY PROVING TO BR TRUE IN REPRESENTATION AHHHHHH THE FANDOM BEEN KNEW LOL
No I think Astruc and his writers took the theory and liked it enough to make it canon which I don’t like honestly
@@lucapeyrefitte6899 seems plausible actually
@@lucapeyrefitte6899 Dunno if I like it or not cuz on one hand it gives a lotta strength to the plot and makes sense why Adrien and Felix look so similar but then again I don't like the thought of them just being "created" rather than born and how it dehumanizes them, also it's so scary that their existence could be erased just by the snap of a finger-
@@CasuallyCruelCrushesClub yeah cuz that’s what George Lucas did with some of the things and the planet Coruscant in Star Wars and Disney Star Wars for the Han Solo and Rogue One movies. Yeah I wouldn’t want Adrien, Felix and Kagami to disappear if their parents were to disappear and people seem to like that Adrian is rep for a abused children storyline. You know so if he disappeared then it wouldn’t be a thing anymore
@@lucapeyrefitte6899 didn't get the star wars reference but yeah...
Its confirmed now that both Adrien and Felix, as well as Kagami are all sentimonsters. The only one who is still clueless on their origin is Adrian, but I feel like him being left in the dark about all this is going to become a major plot point for season 6/7 conflict. Pretty sure "Lila" knows as well with the info she got from a mindcontrolled Natalie. Could be interesting to see if she manages to steal his amok and turn Cat Noir against Ladybug and the other 16 heroes of Paris. It would definitely evenout the playing field. But that's just my theory as to what could happen in the next season.
i'm late bc this was flat out confirmed, but i think it was a lot more telling that felix referred to red moon as his SISTER, not just his friend. "showing remorse" also doesn't quite describe how he felt so much grief about releasing it's existence that he was sobbing in the fetal position, a reasonable reaction in the context of feeling like he murdered one of his own
in the episode Representation, Felix tells Marinette that he and Kagami are sentimonsters
I have this teory, that Adrien died. However, Emely could not hold the pain and decided to use the Peacook miraculous to bring Adrien back to live, but as consequence of this she end up in coma.
nah I dont think so but I hope not and I hope adrien isnt a sentimonster and that hes a real person cuz he and marinette are made for eachother adrien cant be.
I LITERALLY SAW THIS IN A COMIC FOR MIRACULOUS THEY GET INTO AN ACCIDENT EMILY USES THE MIRACULOUS TO FIX ADRIEN
imagine if adrien just went poof and all they found were his ring and clothes and a ton of smelly cheese 😭😭
The creator already said that Adrian isn't a sentimonster
Oh, you may wanna take a look at the storyboards: spoilers:
unless there is an "alternate" version, it is confirmed, the three of them are senti's
The third being Kagami, yes?
Hey, in till Adrien vaporizes in a BIG PURPLE CLOUD as proof that he is one, he is not a sentimonster.
Yup, Kagami is the last one, and they explicitly call Adrian and Felix "Miraculous Children", they say how Felix's Father used the peacock miraculous to give him life and how their lives are linked to their respective amok holder, it'll all make sense when the episode comes out, they used another sentimonster to tell the truth as an act. Kagami has always had her amok, but it's taken away from her as she is not longer worthy (said by her mom) but Felix gets it back (something about using a duplicate).
Don't worry, they will show and say it explicitly in an episode, also Marinnette says that Adrien "has already learned how to live", yeah she will know, actually, she is the one Felix and Kagami go to for help.
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It's so hard waiting for these episodes to come out! I'm so scared for Adrian and Marinette knowing at any moment his Amok can be found and poof! Ladybug said there is no way to reverse or fix a Senti-monsters dismissal. The ladybugs can fix literal death but cannot recreate that which was just a feather.
You will all understand everything one Season 5 Episode 24 is properly revealed.
"DoUpEnChAiN!!!!". I'm dying 💀😭 3:31
Just watched the whole season 5 and cant wait for it get animated!!!! Absolute Miraculous story
I thought only Felix is a sentimonster? I remember his little theatre story with Kagami in the last four episodes of season 5 (I can’t remember which one). He said that the girl who married the tailor (indicating Emilie and Gabriel) got pregnant but her sister couldn’t, so her sister’s husband, asked the tailor (Gabriel) for the miraculous to have a child. That explains why Felix looks exactly the same as Adrien, cuz he was copied from Adrien
I love this video ❤️❤️
I'm having a hard time believing that both Adrien and Felix are both Senti-Monsters, here's why. Emilie's in a comatose state because she was using the damaged Peacock Miraculous, so if they were actually created by her, they would have both been destroyed the moment she fell ill since the Amok was controlled by the power of the Peacock Miraculous holder....
spoilers:
1. its canon and confirmed. adrien and felix are sentimonsters (and probably kagami)
2. they can have emotions, feelings, thoughts, etc. but they cant do something if ordered NOT too. basically they dont need orders to do something, but if ordered not to do it they cant disobey (this is likely why felix randomly apologizes to the sentimonsters being thrown into the sun in the season 4 finale)
@@mythical.toaster Okay, so what about the Cat Miraculous? I mean, was it even explained if a Sentimonster was able to use one?
@@mythical.toasterwhere was it confirmed?
Sentimonsters are controlled by anyone who bears the amok, not by the peacock miraculous holder*, so that's why Emily's condition is not related to both of the boys ig
@@mythical.toasterRemember something when sentimonsters are cataclysmed they go out of control ep miraculer catnoir doesn't go out of control It just causes damage to both adrien and plagg
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Remember how distraught Adrien was when Natalie made the sentimonster of ladybug disappear? It's like he knew she was as real as he was. Even though he didn't know he was a sentimonster, he deeply empathised with her experience.
In episode 24, it is shown that falix is a sentimonstar
this aged well with the show confirming the theory
edit: i think the episode is called representation but im not sure :)
now i get why adrien is allergic to feathers :(
He’s allergic to pigeons.
@@Boogie-uo1wx now I know why :(
but how can a sentimonster be allergic to feathers. Adrien is very human like I dont think hes a sentimonster.
@@Boogie-uo1wx pigeons have feathers
Okay this is my theory why adrien is not a sentimonster
-He's allergic to feathers and sentimonsters are supposed to be perfect they can't have allergies and no there is no such thing as creating an allergy to reduce suspicion
-We all know that when sentimonsters are cataclysmed they go out of control in episode miraculer when catnoir is cataclysmed it doesn't make him go out of control it just internally damages adrien and plagg if you're gonna say why doesn't he have a wound and dies like monarch at the end of miraculer ladybug uses her miraculous ladybug undoing the damage caused to catnoir whereas in destruction monarch takes the luckycharm with him which means ladybug can't fix him
-I personally think adrien follows every order of his father because he doesn't want him to keep adrien confined at home again if he disobeys gabriel and his father gets mad he won't let him go to school or have friends
-Felix and adrien being twins has happened in real life when two twins gave birth there childs were identical twins and considered brothers instead of cousins
One question ⁉️ its most possible thing that adrien is a senti-monster but in one episode i guess Sabrina's accumatization,cat noir got cataclysm nd sentimonsters get out of control after cataclysm but he just felt weak but was aware of what he was doing!! I meam I don't know but yah!
I think the akuma that Adrien is controlled by is Gabriel’s ring notice how whenever Adrien rebels gabriel he touches his ring to calm down is sentimonstwe
I actually think dat the ring Felix is wearing is hes amok. Remember Amelie (hes Mother) saying: Now that hes father isn’t here to stop him…. (She can’t finish her sentence). Maybe that ring was first from him? And btw, i thought that the holder off the miraculous only can create 1 amok at once, and only can create a new one when she destroyed the old one.
Now that Felix is spoiler alert a hero if Adrien loses his ring Plagg is going to mix up Felix for Adrien I wouldn’t be surprised you know it’s going to happen one day I wouldn’t be surprised.
I for sure think Felix is a sentimonster but Adrien isn’t. This is just my interpretation of s5ep24/25. If In the story he tells Marinette (with Kagami's help), the two sisters are Emilie and Amelie, with the husbands being Adrien and Felix's dads. Both sisters had fertility struggles, but Emelie was finally able to conceive. Colt got angry when he saw that Amelie's sister was able to have a baby but not her, so he threatened Gabriel. My first theory is that Gabriel gave Colt the Peacock to create Felix; this would explain why his dad ended up hating him/calling him a monster plus it would account for his death. My other theory is that Emelie used the Peacock to create Felix because she wanted to make her sister happy; this would explain why she got sick.
'Adrien its a sentimonster because in Represneation during Felix and kagami story,they said that Emilie got pregangt it was a MIRACLE which clearly they was talking about the Peacok Miraculous.Also when they show Emilie being pregangnt,there is Peacock's feather.Your theory of Emilie being who created Felix its wrong cuz it was Colt Fathom,Amelie's husband and Felixs father,who used the Peacok Miraculous to. crtate Felix,since he was jeaolus that Gabriel and Emilie could have a heir to the Graham de Vanilli family.Gabriel offered Colt to loan the Peacok Miraculous in exchange for a bodyguard to their son,which it turned out to be Placide I.T.(Adrien's bodyguard ).Beacuse Colt used the damagde Peacock Miraculous,he eventually got sick and dad.
Felix is a sentimonster, its gonna be revealed in the show, trust me.
you were right
It did get revealed and I think the girl was kagami??? But if that's true than is Adrian a sentimonster because sentimonsters can't be like humans and Adrian is allergic to feathers so idk about Adrian but kagami and Felix yes
theres still no proper evidence of this hes a real person and so is adrien but u never know.
@@bismaibraheem6554 hello'.In Represneation it was already confirmed ,that both are sentimosnter duh.Both Emilie and Amilie couldnt have children,so the Miraculous of the Peacok Miraculous were used to create their sons
Also in the last episode of season six Marinette says: Adrien you’re the only one who can decide what you make of YOUR life. She says that after putting the double wedding rings on his finger. Which means that Adrien is now in control of his own power!
At the time they found the peacock & butterfly miraculous the peacock miraculous wasn’t broken, something happened in their past that broke the peacock miraculous
Gabriel in a couple more episodes (my prediction) (ITS A FAMILY GENE 🧬)
I love how this series shows how everything is not always what they seem to be.🐞🐈⬛
Here Adrien, Adrian can't be a senti-monster because he is actually caring for others and then master fu haven't gave him the miraculous and PLAGG should have knew he's a sentimonster from the start and + he is allergic to feathers but feather is what is used to create the Senti so I don't think Adrien is sus.
Those things don't go against all the rules of the peacock miraculous
It has been literally proven in "Ladybug " episode that sentimonsters have feelings as well so they can care for others
Master fu doesn't know and cannot know Adrien is a sentimonster so he just gave him the miraculous to someone who deserved it
It has never been established that kwami could feel sentimonsters 🤷🏻♀️ so no Plagg should not necessarily know he is a sentimonster
Him being allergic to feathers doesn't prove he is not a sentimonster, it is really just an allergy or a hint he is actually a sentimonster because it is ironic
Nah the sentimonster theory has been confirmed in the panel episodes
Sentimonsters struggle with understanding emotion at first, but with external influence they can learn. That’s what happened to Adrien, his mother taught him to love, and going to school taught him more emotions.
Actually in one episode (Optigami)..Hawkmoth create Nino's Sentimonster .Even ladybug trusted him & Gave the Turtle Miraculous..so Wayzz also Couldn't Figure out the sentimonster.. however ladybug Fix everything at end
It's nice!
I believe Felix may be but not Darien otherwise how could he control himself against his own father when he says “give me your miraculous” because whether he knows it or not Gabriel is hawk moth and has the ring in his possession so how would that work? Also I think Felix’s amuck doesn’t lie with Gabriel and never did, I don’t know who it would be it’s but it isn’t Gabriel
Is it just me. Because, I'm thinking differently. My theory is that Adrien and Felix are one and they have just been separated in which all the good traits and personalities will go to Adrien the absolute good in which he cannot disobey his father Gabriel. While Felix has the power to disobey and even obtain power and control because he got all the negative traits of adrien. But if, they are indeed, just one person who was split into two in which her mother paid the price that's why she is currently in coma. Would be the reason why this whole scenarios all makes sense and why Gabriel behave that way.
In addition, to that this kept me thinking about Felix mother and Adrien's mother. Maybe, Adrien's mother used the peacock miraculous to replace the unborn child of Felix Mother in which case Felix is created on the same appearance of Adrien because Adrien's Mother Twin her baby might have died. Or maybe there was a time in which the Ladybug and Catnoir of the Old timeline almost got defeated and the consequence of that is having another replica of Adrien's mother and him in which the timeline got combined and their memories were replaced and that's the whole reason why they think their related for the balance of the world to work or something like that and to justify their existence all their memories were erased. And in this new timeline Felix and Adrien Exist in which Adrien's mother paid the price. But this is just my own imagination and opinion 😅. There are many theories but sometimes we don't need to delve deeper to things. Let's just wait for the story to unfold! Hoping for next episode and season for Miraculous Ladybug and more characters growth in which the end is when she got all the miraculous back.
It’s been confirmed that they are indeed sentimonsters. Spoilers ahead:
Adrien and Felix are not one of the same, their mothers both struggled to have kids (I think they were impotent from inbreeding) and their fathers were desperate. Gabriel got his hands on the peacock miraculous and so emilie used it to create Adrien inside her stomach, and she gave birth to him. Then Amelie (Felix’s mom) also was desperate for a child, cause her husband was abusive and needed an heir for his kingdom (yes emelie and Amelie were princesses but emilie ran away to marry gabriel. Amelie was left behind and was forced into an arranged marriage with another noble). So gabriel struck a deal with felix’s dad, and he lent the peacock to Amelie, so she also got pregnant with Felix using the miraculous. The reason why Felix and Adrien look so similar is precisely because their mothers are twins, they have no genes from their fathers, only their mothers. Their mothers are twins and have the same genetic code, and so Adrien and Felix also have the same genetic code. They are pretty much like twins themselves.
Felix figured out he was a sentimonster because his father (a duke) constantly used the ring with his amok to manipulate, order and abuse him, even going so far as to accidentally putting a crack in the ring from throwing it, this in turn caused great pain to Felix. Then his dad died, and Felix finally got a hold on the ring. He realised that Adrien was also like him, being manipulated by Gabriel and tries to save Adrien by getting his hands on Gabriel’s ring to save Adrien. Once he gets the peacock miraculous, he is also able to sense other amok. He sense an amok in kagami’s family ring as well. So ya, kagami is also a sentimonster.
Tsurumi (kagami’s mom) also created kagami some time in the past, but it isn’t explained how, or when. Just blatantly implied that kagami is also a sentimonster.
Gabriel and Emilie created Adrien with love using the peacock, but Felix was created out of anger, desperation and fear (his dad and Amelie). That’s probably why he’s more temperamental, impulsive, and desperate. Kagami was also most likely created with the ideal to not feel or understand emotions, since that’s what her mom keeps parroting.
And it might explain how the peacock miraculous got damaged
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The fandom totally making up random things and theories about how Emily is a photograph come to life
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The fact that one time in season 3 the peacoc made ladybug senti monster and ladybug and cat noir got her too be on their team and that means they don’t really always hear too the owner that made the senti moster
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2:38 I'm sorry. again!?
This comments gonna be kinda long...(SPOILER ALERT IF YOUR NOT CAUGHT UP ON SOME RECENT EPISODES) Adrien and Felix are most likely sentimonsters, reasons to support my theories include... Sentimonsters can only be controlled by the holder of the peacock miraculous or by the item which an amok is located in, reasons to support that amok's are located in the 2 wedding rings include the fact in which during a recent episode (maybe late season 4/early season 5) we discover that gabriel can't order adrien... He then reaches for the ring on his finger and seeing its not there his face lights up in shock. Another point is Felix returned the ring when he became the peacock holder. Because only the holder of the peacock miraculous or someone with an object that has an amok in it can control sentimonsters, this means Felix could control himself with the ring but doesn't need it anymore as the holder of the peacock miraculous... Another point, Kagami? Yes that's right in recent episodes we see that Felix has taken notice to the ring on kagami's finger, now we might think nothing of it but Kagami had used some interesting wording earlier on in the episode regarding how you choose to follow orders, if she was a sentimonsters and had her own ring that would be her choice, but later on her mother takes this ring away from her during an argument(after gabriel says you need to have control over your daughter) .... Why is a good question, when Felix and Kagami meet up later Felix hands her the ring and says the one you gave your mother was a copy, why would this be? If hints very strongly towards kagami being sentimonsters... Another point is Felix literally called the red moon his sister and friend... These are just recaps of some episodes but there is alot of hints towards them being sentimonsters at the end of the day, if you have a way to counteract my opinion go ahead as I would love to hear what you have to say, also on an unrelated note, we are getting to see more and more of felix's caring side yet it does ponder the question to why he doesnt tell anyone he knows who Monarch (shadow moth /hawkmoth) is.
I think I have a theory, What say we actually wait to find out if Adrien is a senti-monster in till we 'ACTUALLY' see proof of that possibility, but in till then, but if he is on What if Adrien's amok is both of the Graham Di Vanly rings? we've seen Akumas get split in half in episodes before, what's to say that Amoks can't do the same thing, their powers split between the 2 rings for like 1 to give orders and one to counter-mend those orders just like what Natalie did when Gabi forced Adrien to call it off with Marinette.
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@@Joyboy_a24u I'm glad you agree, because we humans sometimes jump to conclusions and start speculating things like "Ooo, Gabriel is touching his ring, that means Adrien is a sentimonster" oh please, people touch things all the all the time when their nervous or stressed or horny, but in Gabriel's case I betcha he hasn't wacked one off in years.
When Adrien opened the picture wouldn’t plagg know that it is a miraclulouse
3:11, or Felix's father was sterile and Asked Gabriel for a donation in which Felix's father found out the idea horribly backfired on him to where Felix knows and is trying to cover it up because that would mean Adrian and Felix are half brothers and Adrian is first born.
4:11, why would Gabriel have the object holding Felix's feather/amok? Also, wouldn't that mean Felix should have obeyed Gabriel without any questions or tried to resist him?
5:41, if Gabriel is currently holding the ring that should control Adrian, then why doesn't Chat Noir obey Hawkmoth whenever he demands him to give his miraculous to him?
7:15, as in he could literally use Felix's family traditions against him by revealing the truth he has kept secret till now. Which I'm assuming that the first born son in high class society gets everything in the family while second born and below have to figure out what they do in life.
7:54, peacock miraculous is a wonderful tool a person can use to create a bs backstory.
8:23, if he "did" hand over the ring holding the amok then having the miraculous is pointless since all Gabriel needs to do is smash it with a hammer or force Felix to return the miraculous and never leave England/Great Britain ever again.
Honestly Felix is definitely a sentimonster. 100 percent. Like he usually is so cold and sarcastic but like he asked the red moon for forgiveness
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I never knew that Adrain and Felix being sentimonsters in the show.
Their is no actual proof of that, so in till we see Felix and Adrien vaporize in a purple cloud, don't believe these theories of Adrien being a sentimonter.
spoilers:
1. its canon and confirmed. adrien and felix are sentimonsters (and probably kagami)
2. they can have emotions, feelings, thoughts, etc. but they cant do something if ordered NOT too. basically they dont need orders to do something, but if ordered not to do it they cant disobey (this is likely why felix randomly apologizes to the sentimonsters being thrown into the sun in the season 4 finale)
Can you do a video about the chance Kagami is a sentimonster?
Wait what about the episode that Adrien got Akumatized and gave his father/shadow moth his miraculous
If a sentimonster was cataclysmed they would go crazy but in the miraculular episode adrien was cataclysmed and he did not go crazy. Sentimonsters can take any form but they can not have human emotions they can only fake it if they are told to Adrien is afraid to disobey his fathers orders Gabriel forbid Adrien from dating marinette and he still does it even when Gabriel gives orders he would not be able to
spoilers:
1. its canon and confirmed. adrien and felix are sentimonsters (and probably kagami)
2. they can have emotions, feelings, thoughts, etc. but they cant do something if ordered NOT too. basically they dont need orders to do something, but if ordered not to do it they cant disobey (this is likely why felix randomly apologizes to the sentimonsters being thrown into the sun in the season 4 finale)
@@mythical.toasterconfirmed where?
Adrien (to Gabriel): I DIDN’T ASK TO GET MADE! I didn’t ask to be mentally torn apart and put back together over and over being treated as some…some little monster!!!
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@@FireBreather626glad you understood my reference. Only in this case he’s not experimented on, he’s forced into being a model and being abused by Gabriel.
Adrien reminds me of Rocket from GOTG
It's confirmed by the end of the season 5 now!
Just saw the title of your video that confirmed it right after that
Im pretty sure it’s just Felix being a senti monster. Because when Kagami and Felix did the „Roleplay“ to reveal the truth to marinette they showed that one of the sisters actually got a child naturally but the other sister got jealous and then created the senti monster… or did I get something wrong there?
I feel like the people who insist that Adrien/Felix/Kagami can't be sentimonsters because they're 'too human' are forgetting that that's specifically what they were created to be. They were literally designed with the purpose of being their parents' children because (at least in Felix's and Adrien's case) their parents couldn't conceive naturally, so of course they would be as human as it was possible for the peacock miraculous to make them. On a similar note, even if they did not initially have their own personality beyond that of being what their parents wanted them to be, we know from Sentibug that sentimonsters can develop their own identity over time and those three have definitely been on this earth for long enough to have done so.
honestly i findthis kinda sad. when adrien is free he will just die. if ladybug gets peacock miraculous, no more cat noir, truly heartbreaking
Wiat if Adrian was a senti-monster, wouldn't have mayura have felt energy of an amuck nearby, because I remember the episode where master fu's old peacock miatake was released from the statue soo... idk thats just why I think Adrian is not a senti-monster
mayura knows abt the sentimonster shenanigans.
spoilers:
1. its canon and confirmed. adrien and felix are sentimonsters (and probably kagami)
2. they can have emotions, feelings, thoughts, etc. but they cant do something if ordered NOT too. basically they dont need orders to do something, but if ordered not to do it they cant disobey (this is likely why felix randomly apologizes to the sentimonsters being thrown into the sun in the season 4 finale)
My theory is that Felix desperately wanted the peacock miraculous so nobody could remove them from existence and no other senti monster can be destroyed that’s why he chose that miraculous instead of any other because like he could have had time or somet but he doesn’t he wanna insures his safety and Adrian
1:55 okay so it has been told on several occasions that Emilie used the peacock miraculous so- 2:50 Again Adrian and Felix look similar and stuff but it could be that its a huge resesive gene it doesn’t prove anything it is never explained it’s literally because of the original comics and Felixs main role 3:44 AGAIN HE WANTED IT FOR HIS MOM CAUSE ITS FROM HER SIDE OF THE FAMILY NOT THE AGRESTES 4:30 AGAIN THE SHOW HAS EXPLAINED THISSSSS AHHHHHHHH 5:17 AGAIN HE IS CLOSER TO WINNING AND STUFF HE LOVES THE RING AND ITS APART OF HIS WISHHHHH 9:06 BECAUSE HE FREAKING GOT CLOSE OMFG THIS IS SAD THERE IS FREAKING EVIDENCE-
you forgete the episode shadow moth ephmeral
I knew it from the start also did u mention when Adrien and Marinette almost kissed Gabriel was talking in his mind- what happens when people are sentimonsters.
6:20-But each sentimonster is only connected with 1 amok.
we dont know that, we are still yet to discover all the miraculous powers like gabriel said- book is just what holders discovered
Another one is that argos/felix created the red moon sentimonster for adrien and they are prob both sentimonsters that want to be free (like the ladybug sentimonster that mayura created)
This makes no sense. He constantly disobeys his father, especially as cat noir.
It is clear that Adrian and Felix are sentimonsters but it wasn't supposed to be a truth from season 1 to 4. They started this project at season five cuz from seasons 1 to 4 we had no clue
This all makes sense, but the series could also have set up a giant pond of red herring.
You know....
Natalie having the wedding ring and being able to order adrien makes a lot of sense and something i thought of when he took the ring back
Gabriel would know that adrien was a sentimonster. He would be able to control adrien with the ring.
But......... felix was created by his father chlot fhatom soo gabriel can't destroy him unless he has the object with the amok so does that mean he has the object? sorry those are spoilers btw
I found it extremely interesting felix seemed like he had his own free will to help people once he got the peacock miraculous,
Wouldnt it have been something if the reason he came off as evil is Gabrielle was feeding him negative emotions
Or something like that
In on episode it says that Adrien is actually a real child but Felix's mother realized she couldn't have children and that's when Adrien's father gave the peacock miraculous to Felix's father so he could create felix
Me being like: Felix… is a SENTIMONSTER???? And Adrien too???????
I…. I…..
The one thing I wonder is why Adrian didn’t grabbed the peacock miraculous and if he even didn’t no what it look like plagg could have told him cause he used to be with master fu