The 5’8" Receiver who Revolutionized the NFL (forever).

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  • In 2007, Wes Welker the 5’8” wide receiver, changed football forever. With the NFL firmly stuck in a run heavy phase, Welker came to the Patriots and turned them into a spread/passing heavy attack, and the league would never be the same after. Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Bill Belichick set records, and arguably became the greatest team of all time, and the greatest dynasty of all time. How did Welker help change them, and how did defenses react? This week’s episode uses the coaches all 22 game film to analyze the 2007 New England Patriots and how Wes Welker changed the NFL forever.
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  • @AlexRollinsNFL
    @AlexRollinsNFL  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    What we thinking about this week’s OL? Took some of y’all sickos advice with Ricky Rozay. Also I’m about to take a 2 week trip out of town, so I’m going to pause the content for a bit. Thanks for all the support, this is an unbelievable blessing to get to do this every week, thanks for rocking with me! It’s fun working to make this content better and better cause I know each of you who are giving me your time deserves it. 👊

  • @chicagodude8888
    @chicagodude8888 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +105

    He revolutionized terms like “grit” “sneaky athleticism” and other phrases used to describe white skill players.

    • @claymathews8814
      @claymathews8814 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      He was a real “sparkplug”

    • @edgarolguin6477
      @edgarolguin6477 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      White players are better

    • @kev792
      @kev792 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      Smart iq. First one in, last one out typa guy.

    • @MF_DOOMer
      @MF_DOOMer 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Great Hands and Scrappy

    • @Tom_bradys_unretirement
      @Tom_bradys_unretirement 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      Definitely played the game the right way🤣

  • @furiogiunta7886
    @furiogiunta7886 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +112

    The first time I ever heard of Wes Welker was in Madden 2006. He was on the Dolphins and was a 48 rated player. The absolute worst rated player in the entire game. LOL

    • @TransNFLGirl
      @TransNFLGirl 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My guy went from worst to top 10 in 2 games.

    • @thetrashman5381
      @thetrashman5381 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      give me 1000 dollars

    • @furiogiunta7886
      @furiogiunta7886 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@thetrashman5381 you got a bee on your hat

    • @thetrashman5381
      @thetrashman5381 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@furiogiunta7886 just da money.

    • @furiogiunta7886
      @furiogiunta7886 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@thetrashman5381 I thought Columbus was hero to America?

  • @andrewsileo9164
    @andrewsileo9164 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    The reason that the Patriots went to the spread was the 2005 rules emphasis on defensive holding. Pre-2005 Wes Welker gets mugged at the LOS by the CB or thrown into the dirt by the LB when he tried to run a crossing route. It was Belichick understanding that change in dynamics that made him seek out Welker.

    • @ckobo84
      @ckobo84 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I remember Jerry Rice running short crossing routes all day long without being mugged. Those rules actually got changed in 1978 dude.

    • @SigandGibbs
      @SigandGibbs วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ckobo84 they changed again in 2005 because Manning and the Colts bitched about getting their asses beat too much

  • @sostdm617
    @sostdm617 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +80

    Wes Welker literally made that slot receiver position more popular than anyone i can remember this is who Julian Edelman learned from as a pats fan it was a joy watching Brady to Welker

    • @yeti4269
      @yeti4269 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Best part was Edelman filled the role so well, it was like Welker just changed his identity

    • @sostdm617
      @sostdm617 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@yeti4269 exactly it sure felt like that

    • @jasongould04
      @jasongould04 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Brandon Stokely did this before Welker

    • @sostdm617
      @sostdm617 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@jasongould04 no doubt I agree not to the level of welker in my opinion and the dude from the Jets and j the late 90's early 2000's

    • @poeticalvision
      @poeticalvision 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@yeti4269 Wes Welker was FAR FARRRRR better than Edelman. Prime Welker was the best slot receiver of all time.

  • @3pointstance484
    @3pointstance484 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    Having patriots legend Peter Griffin in todays video was not what i was expecting to see.🤣🤣

    • @naijahn13
      @naijahn13 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Who could ever forget the Buttchdown at Gillette😂

  • @paulgaither
    @paulgaither 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    In the 2007 season, in an interview, Belichick was asked about Welker and his impact on the team. I don't have the exact quote, but from memory, he said that they played Miami twice a year, and they couldn't even double cover Welker. Bill fleeced Miami when they traded for him. He knew what he was getting.

  • @primeup6955
    @primeup6955 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Being a 5'8 guy myself, Welker is my athletic hero😂😂😂

  • @TheMelnTeam
    @TheMelnTeam 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    Colts with Manning were ahead of the Pats in spamming 3 WR sets. The Colts didn't have anybody with Welker's production inside though, so it wasn't adopted as readily. The Pats themselves seem to have noticed the potential, however!
    Funny aside: in 2007, one of the fantasy football teams I was in titled itself "Boston teams suck", took only Pats players way ahead of their standard draft position, just to annoy one of the other members in that league. It had the best record on the season and lost in the championship, much like the real team :p.

    • @killaB215
      @killaB215 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yup Brandon stokley

    • @LanceUppercut
      @LanceUppercut 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That was my first thought when he claimed Weller was the first slot WR, lol. Rest of the video was great, though.

    • @monstermj7
      @monstermj7 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Dallas Clark was pretty much another WR out there to

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Also the slot guy for the Colts in the 2000s ended up being the recipient of many hospital balls from Peyton. Stokely, Collie and Gonzalez on film and their short careers could attest to that. And of course in 2013 Peyton would find out just how good Welker was as a slot guy near the twilight of his career.

    • @qjnmh
      @qjnmh 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Totally agree. The Buffalo K-gun says hi as well. And Art Monk is standing there in his retro 80s gearing asking wtf people keep forgetting a double Super Bowl team whose base set was 3WR

  • @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly
    @JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnly 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +170

    *Keep in mind that none of this would have been possible without the acquisition of Randy Moss.*

    • @jameshoops10
      @jameshoops10 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      and josh mcdainels scheme

    • @sostdm617
      @sostdm617 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No doubt

    • @joebates93
      @joebates93 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jameshoops10 Peter principle

    • @tjanderson5892
      @tjanderson5892 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      I mean….we saw it thrive for yrs w/o Randy. It only changed bc defs started gettin quicker so Bill audibled to using heavies. Started utilizing TE-centric offenses to adjust to the adjustments. W/ Gronk and AAron the Pats hardly ever used 3WR packages. W/ Welker that’s practically all they used.

    • @matthewfletcher7710
      @matthewfletcher7710 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Y'knowwww

  • @paulgaither
    @paulgaither 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Alex, I wish you had shown how what Welker did was different than what the 99 Rams with 3 WRs in Bruce, Holt and Hakim did qith the same personnel package but different talent.
    Also, the 98 Vikings used to regularly go 3 wide with Moss, Carter and Jake Reed.

  • @andrewmerida2114
    @andrewmerida2114 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Wes Welker was the first Patriots jersey I bought even before I got Tom’s

    • @VaanRavi
      @VaanRavi 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dang you must be a whitey boy

  • @monophthalmos9633
    @monophthalmos9633 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    When you play franchise mode in Madden 08 the MVP is almost always a running back (or Vince Young because of his rushing production) and almost no QB manages to get 4,000 yards passing. The backup QB still is the holder for field goals. Truly a different era.

  • @EricA-kl7by
    @EricA-kl7by 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Congrats on another great video. I will say that my 1st introduction to the affects of a true slot receiver position come in 1989 when I played in a run n shoot offense which looked to incorporate 2 slot receiver positions. In that era the Detroit Lions and Houston Oilers were amongst the 1st to utilize this philosophy. Houston in particular had a quad of receivers that would annually torch the league in Drew Hill, Earnest Givings, Haywood Jeffires and Curtis Duncan. With the exception of Jeffires the other 3 were 5'11" or shorter. They, along with the lesser known Detroit receivers, were the true pioneers of the slot position which looked specifically to create mis-matches against bigger, less skilled defenders

  • @paulgaither
    @paulgaither 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The forgotten weapon in 2007 was Dante Stallworth. If anyone was faster at WR than Moss, it would be Stallworth, who ran a 4.24 40 time and was a weapon in his own right. He didn't put up huge stats with the Patriots, but was often asked to be the true clear out routes to gas defensive backs and would get 15.2 yards per reception on 9.29 yards per target that year with an 84 yard long score and multiple 50+ yard games.
    He was a player who punished defenses who didn't respect him with a game where he went 7 for 7 targets, 136 yards, and a TD in week 6 to remind everyone that he can blow games open too if allowed.
    Teams had to deal with Moss and Stallworth, which allowed Welker to carve teams up.

    • @rawswisher43
      @rawswisher43 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      All that resulted in Zero rings nice.

    • @paulgaither
      @paulgaither 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@rawswisher43 - Thanks for your contribution.

  • @andrewfung9340
    @andrewfung9340 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Welker stats won’t make him a hall of famer but I do feel like his impact on the game changed the whole NFL

    • @jamesjross
      @jamesjross 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      NOPE. This video was just hyperbole. The stuff about the slot, changing the league is provably BS. He was a really good player. the rest is just tosh.

  • @brodymckerchie1723
    @brodymckerchie1723 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    might be your best vid yet. love the throwbacks!! this was phenomenal

  • @andrewfung9340
    @andrewfung9340 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love these receiver videos Alex I think breaking down each receiver position can teach you so much about the passing game. Especially since I feel like some people don't understand all the receiver alignments and the certain types of receivers in these roles

  • @itsrodneyj
    @itsrodneyj 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    “Lightning quick white chocolate” ok Alex 😂

  • @jakesnake2354
    @jakesnake2354 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Definitely one your best vids, you 100% are gonna be the best nfl channel ever soon

  • @Dalocklear73
    @Dalocklear73 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One of your best videos ever bro🙏 appreciate the content, I’ve watched every video for 2+ years now

  • @DragonBallStrike
    @DragonBallStrike วันที่ผ่านมา

    I look forward to these videos every week, I just got into watching NFL last season so this channel helps a TON with my understanding of how the game is played at a deeper level. I always knew the rules, but that was about it. Completely changed how I watch games (I watched college for years with very little understanding of the plays themselves)

  • @a1rv0n82
    @a1rv0n82 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The GOAT himself back with another vid 🙏🏽

  • @astrostar49
    @astrostar49 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey this was another great retrospective. Thanks!!! I know this piece was about Wes Welker, but it really made me miss pre 2008 when teams were under center way more, and running the ball was still a cornerstone of many offenses. Bigger linebackers too. #OldManYellsAtCloud

  • @pistolpete9937
    @pistolpete9937 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Enjoyed this breakdown, thankyou.

  • @loltroll5129
    @loltroll5129 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey Man, i just wanna say that I love your Vids. I love your content and find it very Interseting

  • @marcmatthie6119
    @marcmatthie6119 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really good analysis

  • @topleftfromtime
    @topleftfromtime 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    God I love this game! 2024 can’t get here fast enough! Appreciate you Alex!

  • @johnmeehan6444
    @johnmeehan6444 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Nice to see Wes Welker get some love. Honestly feel like he is a forgotten great Patriot. If you look at his stats. He out performed just about everyone in Pats history.

  • @jadenjdurham7484
    @jadenjdurham7484 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great stuff Alex. I would love to see an episode where you break down what makes Ja'Marr Chase a special receiver (or why he's overrated?). What does he do that separates him from the pack? What are his unique/special attributes? How does he win? What does he actually do at an elite level? There's nothing he does that really pops off the screen to me, and I don't understand why everyone thinks of him as a top-5 WR. But I would love to hear what you think and what the film reveals!!!

  • @TrillCannon
    @TrillCannon 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You got the best music of any sports channel omm

  • @symptomofsouls
    @symptomofsouls วันที่ผ่านมา

    People don't mention this enough, Welker rarely runs routes. It sounds absurd, but his job was just "find a hole in the defense" and Brady would find him. And he was incredible at exactly that.
    Part of the reason he struggled with the broncos is that he was being asked to play as a more traditional receiver and didn't have the same telepathic connection with Manning that he did with Brady

  • @vicgilmore1134
    @vicgilmore1134 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Warren Moon & Oilers were doing this long before…Run N Shoot option routes everywhere…

  • @paulgaither
    @paulgaither 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Alex, I am so gald that you are doing breakdowns on historic players in the off season. I hope you are rewared qith a lot of views and do more and older players.
    "Dave Volsky's Backdoor" uploads old school games and it would be great to see really old break downs some day.

  • @Wolfeson28
    @Wolfeson28 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's interesting how we still see some of the legacy of this in that nickel corners are still treated mostly as the #3 CBs on the team, and dramatically underpaid compared to their outside counterparts. This despite the fact that almost every defense now runs nickel personnel on a *majority* of snaps, and many of the best receivers in the league work predominantly out of the slot. Combined with the fact the nickel corners also have much greater responsibilities in run defense than typical outside corners, it's an extremely demanding and dramatically undervalued position.

  • @Devon9812
    @Devon9812 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He deserves to be in the hall of fame for being damn good and the first of his kind

  • @jasongould04
    @jasongould04 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    This is silly - Rams played Air Coryell 4 wide - Marvin Harrison / Reggie Wayne and Brandon Stokely all predate the Welker -

    • @TheMelnTeam
      @TheMelnTeam 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Yeah Colts 3 WR came to mind immediately, that was their go-to with Manning. I forgot about the Rams, but they used more different sets than the Colts with the greatest show on turf.

    • @kghostthegreat
      @kghostthegreat 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Greatest show on Turf’s Version of the Coryell was the system at its most explosive. It had seen plenty of success prior to this being a run first s gene that took Dallas too multiple SBs in the 90s. Mike Martz decided that their 2 minute drill was their best stuff (when they had more WRs in field), so he committed to it and had one of the most notable offenses of all time

    • @kghostthegreat
      @kghostthegreat 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Another offense being the Run and Shoot (90s ATL Falcons) that lived in 4WRs or the Bills’ K gun which relied on 3 WR sets at times

    • @matthewwoodard9810
      @matthewwoodard9810 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yep. In 07, the pats were actively modeling their offense after Peyton’s. Tom has talked about this a lot. The biggest difference was, as much as I love Marvin, he was no Randy Moss. A little later, as much as I loved Dallas Clark, he was no Gronk. Those two might be the most physically dominating at their respective positions, ever. Put that with Tom and it’s a nightmare.

  • @choiyatlam2552
    @choiyatlam2552 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    And then you get Spags absolutely murdered this offense with a blood thirsty Dline, cover 2 and blitz the crap out of Brady.

    • @prestigev6131
      @prestigev6131 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      That’s the sweet part, the Giants didn’t have to blitz Brady because they were getting pressure with 4. Idc what era you play in, if a defense can consistently pressure your qb with just 4 rushers, the passing game is effectively dead. The best pass defense in the world is a sack afterall

    • @choiyatlam2552
      @choiyatlam2552 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@prestigev6131 Watch Brett Kollman's video. Spags didn't blitz a ton, but called some crafty blitzes on third down that frustrate the heck out of Brady.

  • @miki49
    @miki49 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man Wes was fun to watch

  • @BishjamIC
    @BishjamIC 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A former Iowa WR was drafted by the Atlanta Falcons and later played with the San Diego Chargers. Had Tim Dwight been drafted 10 years later and teams seen this as a viable option, he may have been used in this role. Dwight had a respectable career, but he would have rocked in this role with the right system and team around him.

  • @qjnmh
    @qjnmh 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Gary Clark, 1,229 yards. Art Monk 1186 yards. Ricky Sanders 1138 yards. The 1989 Washington team, says hi. And considering they had to play Reggie White’s Eagles and Lawrence Taylor’s Giants twice each, and were QB’d by Mark blooming Rypien those numbers are even more insane.
    The 07 Pats most definitely did not invent the 3WR base set.

  • @michaelcharles0107
    @michaelcharles0107 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Now this is a topic

  • @josephswearington7556
    @josephswearington7556 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The rules changing allowed the middle of the field to open up. Pats took advantage of it. Dime & Nickel defense formations have always been in football.

  • @paulgaither
    @paulgaither 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Concerning Linebackers, Brian Urlacher was the first of a changing breed. While still larger than Fred Warner, Urlacher was a Free/Strong Safety turned LB. Fred Warner, unless I am mistaken, is built more like John Lynch.
    Nowadays, guys like Brian DWkins, Lawyer Milloy, Rodney Harrison, Steve Atwater, Ronnie Lott, and so forth would probably be asked to play MLB.
    Instead, the MLBs like Zack Thomas are more often asked to play OLB, and in some cases even DE/3 Technique DT. My understanding is the famous MLB Teddy Bruschi went from DT to DE to OLB to MLB through his career from college to the pros.
    Coaches are finding better ways to use the body types of the players they have and to make the best impact on the field than ever before.

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Overall height/size is still a factor to play a rangy cover MLB. Only because the guy they are looking to contain against pass looks are TEs. JT O Sullivan stated it best in his assessment of Brian Urlacher. He was the best TE on the field against those passing downs where Bears played Tampa 2 and he had to cover the third of the field under the two safety zones. Considering their size Atwater and Harrison may be the ones in your list who would qualify.

    • @paulgaither
      @paulgaither 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @t4d0W - Yes, but Lynch was 6'2" and maybe you forgot the talk of having 6'3" 231lb Strong Safety Taylor Mays move to linebacker [same size as Fred Warner], back in the 2010 draft.
      The NFL just wasn't ready for that. Imagine how great he could have been if he were born 10 years later.

  • @wingman4356
    @wingman4356 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Playing half the snaps with Joey Harrington at QB Welker had 67 Rec, the most of any WR in the 5 years Harrington was a starter because he was awful. Belichick saw that and was like damn, let's play him all the snaps and double that amount.
    Credit goes to 2 guys for being the masterminds of the revolution., if I remember correctly.
    1. Belichick for thinking outside the box and researching whether a slot WR could be the #1 WR when he saw how unguardable Welker was, thus he studied colleges with only 1 good WR that coaches had to move around a lot so defenses couldn't key on and designed plays for in the slot that could get him the ball at all levels. They got Moss anyway, but Welker was 2nd in the NFL in yards twice, including after Moss was released, so BB's intuition was right.
    2. Moss for convincing Belichick and Brady to let them improvise routes on the fly almost like a fast break in basketball where they would set each other up to get open, as you explained, and Moss teaching the other 3 how to do it effectively.
    Welker often had d's key on him more than the video implies. I remember more than one opposing DB laughing when told Welker is a product of Moss drawing double teams, with their response being that they rolled coverage to Welker in situations all the time, like 3rd and 3 for example, and would bracket him, put their best CB on him, throw the kitchen sink at him, and he'd still shake everyone and get open.

  • @edwardkelly3280
    @edwardkelly3280 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He made slot receivers very critical

  • @qjnmh
    @qjnmh 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Not sure that the Pats scheme is the story. Colts were playing 3WR from very early in the Manning era (Dallas Clark is really a big WR)and further back you have the Gibbs Washington team where 3 WR was sufficiently base that one year they had three 1,000 yard receivers. In fact, if you look back, you can find Madden explaining how Art Monk’s role was essentially a zone killer option role: “find the hole in the zone and sit down”.
    Probably the even more obvious comparison is the Bill’s K Gun from the 90s, which was chock full of shotgun, and also option routes, albeit a lot of them were Thurman Thomas, who got loads of yards on that Welker bend in route highlighted in the video, just run from the split back shot gun.
    I think the story of the 07 Pats is that you have the GOAT at QB, an unguardable deep threat in Moss that demanded double (sometime triple) coverage, and that prevented any sort of special coverage on a very good option receiver. And if you think that the skills which made Brady the GOAT were pre snap reads and accurate passing, he couldn’t be more customer designed to exploit poorly guarded option routes.
    Yes, there were some schematic things - they did throw more, and were in shotgun more, but I honestly think Brady, Moss and Welker could have run Bill Parcell’s Giants offence and still stuck up record numbers.

  • @Scoots1994
    @Scoots1994 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There is Jerry Rice, then there is a big gap, then there is everyone else. Rice himself said Moss had the greatest toolset in NFL WR history, but production and longevity has to matter.

    • @NeverSober8008
      @NeverSober8008 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      True. Otherwise Jay Cutler would be in the conversation for greatest quarterback just off of his “toolset”

  • @PascalRP
    @PascalRP 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well done and well deserved by Wes. He needs to go in the PatsHOF for what he did in NE

  • @johnemmert9012
    @johnemmert9012 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've been playing Madden 08 a bit lately, and I noticed how the concepts don't quite match what more recent titles seem to show.

  • @tigerwoods373
    @tigerwoods373 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember when welker went to Denver and they ended up playing New England I think in the playoffs and they knocked him out of the game. The hits on him were brutal, remember a few that didn't seem legal either. They would hit him before the ball got there.

  • @kevinlb10
    @kevinlb10 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lightning quick white chocolate. Love it!😂😂😂

  • @pepueone
    @pepueone 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My goat

  • @woo-xl2pu
    @woo-xl2pu 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can you do a superbowl 42 giants pats breakdown?

  • @qjnmh
    @qjnmh 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I think this misses the point of the Pats. They were always a Personnel / Mismatch offence, not a scheme offence. They happened to have 2 all time greats and 1 really very good player, and the result was the Moss / Welker combo which gave the defence a “picl your poison” choice on who to double. Since both Moss and Elmer were good enough to require doubling, and both Moss and Brady could beat doubling anyway, the combo was virtually undefendable.

  • @garrethboland5646
    @garrethboland5646 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I guess I'm getting old, but 2007 doesn't seem like all THAT long ago, but stats about certain trends in the league don't lie. The game has certainly changed since then, as have the helmets, facemasks, jerseys and pads.

  • @KidMike23
    @KidMike23 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is still the best NFL team I’ve ever seen with my two eyes despite them not winning the Super Bowl.

  • @marcoslabradaify
    @marcoslabradaify 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Peter Griffin actually did play for the Patriots, he played center for them until he did a song as an end zone celebration, which led him to being traded to the silly nannies

  • @lexsmith7821
    @lexsmith7821 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Wow, I always have to pause and rewind when I see those lineman 😂

  • @MrGrim504
    @MrGrim504 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This dude was a straight up nightmare when you have to go against him in fantasy football.

  • @seancurtin8479
    @seancurtin8479 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brady really does have an elite O-Line in the breakdown. Costanza and Griffin be throwing kids

  • @louisenglish8069
    @louisenglish8069 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Look forward to offenses going back to pounding the rock

  • @yeah6977
    @yeah6977 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the guys on o-line😭

  • @jakesnake2354
    @jakesnake2354 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    LETS GOOOOOOO

  • @NSJ90
    @NSJ90 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My absolute favorite part of the Pats 07 season, was watching them lose the SB to the Giants

  • @Watchingvideoslikeu
    @Watchingvideoslikeu 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wasn’t Brandon Stokely with the colts their 3rd receiver who was Mannings security blanket?

    • @qjnmh
      @qjnmh 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Somewhat. It was more Dallas Clark being simply a big WR in their 2 TE base set.

  • @cbass1018
    @cbass1018 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Texas Tech legend Wes Welker

  • @robertdownie6135
    @robertdownie6135 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    The "original" slot receiver was Az Hakim.
    Nothing in football is ever new. It's all been done before

    • @jamesjross
      @jamesjross 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      This video is nonsense. Welker was a good footballer - lets look at that. But saying he changed the game. The weird stuff about the slot. is so very unprovable and so clearly just hyperbole. My god people don't know what to do during offseason.

    • @yepdontcarebud
      @yepdontcarebud 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Wut? Dudes career high of receptions in a season was 53 and he never cracked 800 yards lol
      Welker is the first ever slot reciever to put up the production that he did. Nobody was putting up 1000 yards from the slot before him.

    • @robertdownie6135
      @robertdownie6135 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@yepdontcarebud you're point being?

    • @ckobo84
      @ckobo84 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The Redskins in the early 80's were my first recollection of a team going 3 wide a lot. Alvin Garrett in the slot - "look at that little monkey go" 🐵

    • @bananaman5668
      @bananaman5668 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@yepdontcarebudyea but that’s the thing that nobody ever thinks twice about when actually looking at Welkers career and his impact on the slot position.
      Welker himself wasn’t some transcendently great player that was able to revolutionize the slot through his play style.
      There have been plenty of Great slots before Welker that were capable of getting 1000 yards.
      In reality the biggest reason Welker was the first slot WR over 1000 yards and then as soon as he did it everybody else started having 1000 yard slot WRs is simply because Welker was the slot WR on the Patriots in 2007!!!
      Because the reason the 2007 Patriots slot WR was always going to be the first one to get over 1000 yards. Is because before the 2007 Patriots happened teams just simply weren’t in shot gun formation enough during the season for a slot WR to even have enough snaps or targets to rack up 1000 yards.
      Before the Pats became the first team in NFL history to use shot gun formation for over 50% of their plays in 2007. NFL teams at the time were only using it less than 20% of their plays and today they are now using shot gun 67%+ of all their plays.
      Shot gun formations are usually the ones that have the most WRs (2-3+) which means they are usually the ones that include a slot receiver during a play because historically a slot receiver is typically only the 2nd or 3rd best receiver on their own team.
      If Welker was revolutionizing anything it’s that he was proving it possible to lead a successful offense while having a Slot WR as your best WR (aka WR1).
      Even tho the number 1 thing that makes a WR better than others and allows them to spread the defense out is their deep threat ability.
      Welker has none. He’s a 5’8 and White.
      Seriously what the hell do people expect?
      He’s not some legendary Hall of Fame WR.
      He’s the Greatest Slot WR of all time in a sport where Slot WR never had any significance until just 15 yards ago.
      And he was just the Slot WR lucky enough to find himself on the very team that was already in the process of making the Slot position actually relevant.
      Nothing more nothing less.
      When are people gonna stop talking about Welker as if he’s a WR1?
      He wasn’t.
      Never was outside of New England.
      Never was going to be because the 2000s and 2010s Patriots are literally the only team in NFL history that valued dinking and dunking and sucked at drafting WRs enough for a A Slot WR to even end up as their teams WR1 at all in the first place.
      Remember that the shape and look of a players careers is mostly determined by their own situation that they found themselves in rather than their own national abilities.
      And that was certainly the case for Welker.

  • @ScottDreyfus
    @ScottDreyfus วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wes and moss then Jules and dola!

  • @paulgaither
    @paulgaither 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Shotgun formation is so strange. It was invented by 49ers Head Coach Red Hickey in 196p, then popularized and "perfected" by Tom Landry's 70s Cowboys, and yet is seen as some kind of modern offense.
    The Gun is almost as old school as Jim Brown, who was a rookie in 1957.

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Coach heads are slow to adapt and evolve especially in the NFL. But it probably shows how adaptable the gun for the pass game is as it sees use in all levels of football. As well with adding better wrinkles to blend it better with run game looks. You probably didn't see lot of shotgun + pistol formations in the 2000s as oppose to now.

    • @paulgaither
      @paulgaither 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @t4d0W - Regarding the end of your comment: the Pistol was invented in 1999 and popularized in 2005 with the Nevada Wolfpack. Colin Kaepernick was a freshman the next year [2006], and you could use it in the video game NCAA 07. So half right. 2000-2004 no, but 2005-2009 yes.

  • @johnfreeman2195
    @johnfreeman2195 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The white chocolate comment got me

  • @EmmaBonn96
    @EmmaBonn96 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nickel has been around since the 60s
    Though classically it was more to deal with the tight end

  • @marianchicago4002
    @marianchicago4002 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Think you washing over 99 Rams too easily, I would think they were the first bonafide 3 and 4 wide receiver sets with Issac Bruce, Torry Holt, Az Akim and Ricky Proehl, and possibly the best pass catching rb in Marshal Faulk, it's just injuries and suicidal tendencies by Mike Martz didn't allow them to stay on top as long as they should have had. Not sure how much shotgun sets they used though.

  • @jclopez5447
    @jclopez5447 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Chills

  • @pentapox9665
    @pentapox9665 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wasn't Steve Largent about that size?

    • @michaelh1603
      @michaelh1603 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Steve Largent used to be 5'11.

  • @nteladiekumpuna3647
    @nteladiekumpuna3647 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    that ol 😂

  • @stanleygreen9073
    @stanleygreen9073 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Didnt they use Troy Brown like this?

    • @antonioiniguez1615
      @antonioiniguez1615 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He's a little bit before my time but I'm pretty sure Troy Brown lined up outside more often. He's got a similar build to Welker though.

  • @will757
    @will757 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    rick ross and dj khalid , someone caught bullets

  • @Otis151
    @Otis151 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    weird that they canceled the super bowl that year.

  • @dragonsofeden
    @dragonsofeden วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why are you crediting Wes Welker for the current slot WR when it was Az Hakim from the Rams?

  • @lordsirdragor
    @lordsirdragor 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And I'm still mad Miami let him leave

  • @brggz
    @brggz วันที่ผ่านมา

    Acting like the pats invented the slot receiver is wild. The broncos were doing it in the 80s, they were called the three amigos. No doubt someone else was doing it before them too but idk.

    • @brggz
      @brggz วันที่ผ่านมา

      Marino and Fouts were doing it in 84 as well

  • @gtapringle
    @gtapringle 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3 Super Bowls and no rings 💔 unfortunate

  • @shorewall
    @shorewall 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think every running back just needs to call themselves a Wide Receiver. Not much difference in the positions, but there is a lot of difference in pay. Be like Deebo or McCaffrey.

  • @richardkossler4624
    @richardkossler4624 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Welker still dropped the most important pass. Give whatever argument you want, he is paid millions. Catch the ball when it matters

  • @monkeyman9856
    @monkeyman9856 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    “Zach Thomas weighed in at 245… nowadays it’s normal to see a 230 pound lb, which was rare to see back in the day” dawg that was the worst example to use. 15 pounds isn’t that big of a difference.

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      For linebackers against the run it is noticeable. Rare to find 230 pound LBs or lighter who have the length/strength to go against a center/guard and hunt for the a husky runner at 215~230 pounds themselves. There is a reason why Belichick in past seasons employs MLBs who are at least 250ish pounds and above and play them close to the D-line above the NT. Because they are big/strong enough to go after those gaps and disrupt the run game.

  • @Cutthroatrah
    @Cutthroatrah 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I thought the 5’9 Steve Smith revolutionized the game

  • @jamesdunn9609
    @jamesdunn9609 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    No, the small, quick WR who "revolutionized" the game was Wayne Chrebet. Chrebet literally was the reason why Welker was even given a shot. Don't get me wrong, Wes was a great player, but Chrebet came before him and defined the role.

  • @samright4661
    @samright4661 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Chargers drafted Wes Welker 2.0 in Ladd Mconkey

  • @44style1
    @44style1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I prefer Steve Smith

  • @TheCountofToulouse
    @TheCountofToulouse 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The 'slot machine'!

  • @PeanutButterAndJellyBros
    @PeanutButterAndJellyBros 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    This is how I see it. Without Moss, Welker's productions will see a drop off. Just like without Gronk, Edelman's productions will see it as well.

    • @TheMelnTeam
      @TheMelnTeam 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's true for literally every good WR pair. Some of Brady's worst production came when Pats only had one option that could reliably beat man coverage. Teams would reliably double whoever that option was, and manage to kill drives because the lesser options couldn't reliably beat man coverage fast enough.
      You can see pretty similar differences in production with and without Deebo Samuel on the 49ers last season, or how TJ Houshmandzadeh looked a lot worse w/o Chad Ochocinco etc. Needing multiple guys who can get open quickly is a big factor even on non-championship teams.

  • @jacobporter419
    @jacobporter419 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And GUESS WHAT!? This is about ready to he Jermaine Burton on the Cincinnati Bengals
    Defenses are going to continue to double team Ja'marr Chase so he's going to get a lot of looks

  • @paullara2872
    @paullara2872 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So then why don’t you make a video on how the giants beat them twice

    • @rawswisher43
      @rawswisher43 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Pass rush, Brady choking and Eli being better than him each time.

    • @jeremybamgbade
      @jeremybamgbade 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because that's irrelevant to the point of the video?

  • @blakeharris58
    @blakeharris58 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Did you really explain football defense to us? US?

  • @FKINFUNNYGAMERZ
    @FKINFUNNYGAMERZ 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this is why seattles 2013 defense is clearly the best of all time. Take 85 bears or 00 ravens and put them against a team like the 2013 broncos or 07 patriots hell even 2011 packers would hang 50 on those defences

    • @NeverSober8008
      @NeverSober8008 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’d probably take 15 broncos over the Seahawks but they are definitely the 2 best ever

    • @qjnmh
      @qjnmh 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Depends what rules it’s played under. Using modern rules, 100% agree. Using 1980s rules, none of those modern offences can function and probably all the WRs and the QB end up in hospital.

  • @velder22
    @velder22 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That little mofo play college ball at Chadron Nebraska LOL I always hated the Patriots but I'm a Nebraska boy and I always wanted Welker to do well

  • @MattNewton
    @MattNewton วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wes Welker did not revolutionize the NFL. You can see the influence of 3 and 4 wide receiver sets since the 80's. Oilers "Run and Shoot". Bills "K-Gun Offense". The Broncos "Three Amigos". Even the Rams "Greatest Show on Turf". But he did have a couple good seasons with the Patriots, I'll give you that.

    • @ckobo84
      @ckobo84 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In the 70's the fullback was as much a glamour position as halfback. But yeah starting in the 80's three receivers was very common

    • @qjnmh
      @qjnmh 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Agree, and probably the biggest old time 3WR team is Gibb’s Washington.

  • @ThinkTwice2222
    @ThinkTwice2222 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No rings though

  • @678rwhp
    @678rwhp 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wes Welker is NOT white chocolate. Please don't let that keep going.