LifeWise Academy sues Ohio man who posted their entire Bible curriculum online (Livestream)
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- One of the largest Christian organizations offering Bible classes to public school students is suing a man who posted their entire curriculum online in an effort to warn parents to reject the program.
And the Christian organization will almost certainly win this legal battle.
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Missing school to receive religious training is the perfect opposite of what we need.
I am GenX. Kids left early for catechism and Hebrew school once per week. Not a big deal when there is no nefarious intent or coercion.
"..religious education classes.."?
Sounds like grooming to me.
Sounds like the TALIBAN
Christianity has never been a benign religion. It has relied on a generations-old system of brainwashing young children to believe demonstrable mythology is actually true. Upon that it adds overt and subtle elements of guilt, shame, threats of shunning, and fear to inhibit later application of reason and fact. Some of those who are deeply inculcated believe it is their duty to continue and expand upon the cycle. What is seen in this example is one more confirmation of the heinous nature of this religion.
It's intellectual grooming. People mostly end up following the religion they randomly grew up with. Beliefs about ethical conduct, how the universe was created, and what happens when you die, are formed not from anything with merit or veracity but by affiliation with other believers of that religion in their local area.
@@mc4ndr3 Without the constant flow of infants being sacrificed for indoctrination
NO religious cult could survive and with the cult's demise so die their imaginary gods.
'I am' against Lifewise Academy. Our children do not need to be indoctrinated into some Jim Jones like Christian criteria.
@@drinkwater5762 I don't know if you drank the water, but I am pretty sure you drank the koolaid.
But these are THEIR already indoctrinated children not yours. Who would send their kid to Lifewise? Atheist parents? Not bloody likely.
"Religious education" in this sense is an oxymoron.
The question is, why don't these people want the public to see their curriculum? What have they got to hide?
Their cultist nonsense of course
They do want the public to see it- after the public pays them.
Isn’t Scientology the same?
Like most other evil and immoral child graping deaf cults, or just otherwise hateful organizations: They *don't* mind being evil and immoral. What they DO mind however, is you *knowing* what they do.
They're hiding the grooming and gRaping of children for Jesus!
The fact that it isn't mandatory to make curriculum public boggles the mind. A summary issued by the org in question is prone to being twisted to hide the bad shit.
If you aren't comfortable with it being public it shouldn't be on the curriculum...
This is the same with a random math book. You can not just download the book, you have to buy it.
@@johanlugthart7782 No it's not the same, we're not just talking about a random book, we're talking about a class' ENTIRE CURRICULUM! This shit needs to be made public.
@@johanlugthart7782problem is the religious book isn't making money they are printing it for themselves I would say it is fair use
@@patrickday4206
Christians are ALWAYS about money.
In order to get accredited at the federal and state level, schools normally have to match their daily lessons and courses to a state or federal rubric. Bow did they sneak all these classes past, or were the mandatory reports falsified?
LW will win this lawsuit, very true.
BUT!
Once it's online, it's online forever.
I dont think the case is as open and shut as it seems at first. LW made the curriculum fully available for nonpaid volunteers, due to a failure on their part to protect their copyrighted work...
And LW wudve to prove that the websites version can cause them actual dmgs; they cant just claim that any use of their copyrighted work causes dmgs, bcuz that wud mean nothin is fair use, ever
If someone really wants to read that lousy book, they should do so in their own time, not in school hours
If they wanted to spread their god's message, they would have released the curriculum themselves. Suing only proves their motive is profit, not spreading god's word..
If you have to hide something it is generally not good.
If the bible is the best your god can do, get another god.
Theists do NOT like their stuff getting exposed. Unless it's a Preist. Then they defend that 100%
I hate the way the law is being applied here. A religious indoctrination organization should not expect their education curriculum to have the same type of protection as a consumer product like a Harry Potter movie. Giving those two types of material the same consideration is ludicrous, and it surrenders to the cult. One more example among many of the law protecting power and money, while sweeping people under the rug, all because the cults convinced the public long ago that religious people are automatically good people so they should be respected above anyone else.
Thanks for calling it "indoctrination" because that's exactly what it is. If parents want to send their kids to church then do it after school or Sunday.
Every major religion in the US uses Sunday as a day of religious education - Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Bahai - others too. You do not need to take time out of the school week, as a nation we have a day for that to opt in.
@@CaptMortifydNot all of them-for Jews, the Sabbath is from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday, and services at shul are part of that. Muslims have Fridays as well, and Seventh-Day Adventists have Saturday too. Wiccans and Pagans don’t have a specific day of rest each week, and neither do atheists or agnostics.
@@CaptMortifydno some use Saturday sabbath
@dragondancer1814 Jewish sabbath is Friday sundown until Saturday sundown but Hebrew school is on Sundays, not during the sabbath
@@be9988 Hebrew school is also on weekday afternoons too, not just on Sunday mornings. And with a few exceptions, it usually ends once the students celebrate their bar/bat mitzvah. It’s not the same as attending shul at all.
I'll take MY child to MY church and I will not have YOU trying to each MY child YOUR Religion. There is no freedom of religion without freedom from religion.
Classic case of "It's ilegal, but not imoral". Because the world definetly needed to see how disturbing their "curriculum" is.
I'm a non practicing Catholic. I went to Catholic schools. Religion was part of the curriculum but nothing more than a half hour class. Most of it was based on the new Testament. Because I had a dad who questioned everything and taught us to do the same, we didn't become hard core bible thumpers. What I hear coming from evangelicals and even some Catholic leaders is nothing like what I experienced and I was never indoctrinated. Having said all of that, I agree with people who say to keep religious teachings out of the public school system. It's up to parents to decide whether they want their children exposed to hard core religious beliefs. But deciding that the bible teaches history is ridiculous. I wouldn't want my child exposed to something I didn't like or agree with.
Catherine, have you witnessed the slide into End Times doctrine with Catholics in the last ten years? It really worries me. And it's only American Catholics.
Nobody can be a member of a religion and NOT be indoctrinated in some way. You can't declare yourself a member of a religion and say, "Well I wasn't indoctrinated!" and still be honest. Without openly declaring that snakes can not talk, and there is no such thing as magic apples...and it being safe to openly declare that without an enormous amount of social pressure or peer pressure for stating and absolute truth: magic doesn't exist but is the product of imagination. Then guess what, you are indoctrinated.
I also went to Catholic scools. My parents had to pay tuition and pay taxes to support public schools. What I mind the most is tax money supporting religious indoctrination of any type!
Teaching children religion should be classified as child abuse. I would prefer that children be taught that slavery, racism, genocide, sexism, incest and homophobia are all immoral and illegal. When these children are adults then they can be exposed to the immorality contained within the bible.
There is no such thing as homophobia.
@davidlafleche1142 sure thing homophobe!!
@@davidlafleche1142 What makes you say that. There are plenty people who have prejudice against gay people.
Everything you said is in the Bible
@@davidlafleche1142Are you a homophobe - I’m guessing you are.
The other part is that the classroom cannot progress while the church kids are out of class. When the local church kids walked over to the off-site mobile home that was used for the classes, the teachers had to wait for their return because they weren't able to do special stuff, like even reviews, that would cause the church kids to be disadvantaged by their absence. This ended when the site was purchased, so the donor ended the use of the building.
LifeWise added a button as soon as all this lawsuit stuff came out. You can now "request full curriculum review." But they're only releasing the curriculum up to grade 5, even though the program goes up to grade 12. And high schoolers can somehow earn college credit for attending LifeWise that they can use at certain Christian colleges. I've heard the high school curriculum is full of Christian nationalism. But they're never going to release that. LifeWise is extremely shady. And while they're going to be in 500 some schools next year, they're at some step of their 10 step plan in over 6,000 schools in the country. And have connections with the Heritage Foundation... It's real bad!
Nazis all the way. Same playbook. They want to put us to the test? We already passed this test. WE been there, done that, and got the t-shirt and we luckily see them coming this time.
Religions are a business, and they should be taxed the same way other businesses are taxed and should have to follow the same regulations other businesses must follow.
Also, since religions are a business that is marketing an immaterial product ( a related business would be those psychic phone lines), there should be a requirement that all religions must follow the same laws that psychic phone lines must follow.
All religious buildings ( church, synagogue, temple, mosque, etc) should be required to have a sign prominently displayed outside the building, and should be required to follow the sign disclaimer when having religious services or programs off their property:
By law, we must state that this is for entertainment purposes only. You must be 18 years or older to participate in any religious services or programming here. All guidance is subject to your own interpretation. By participating in any religious activities here you are agreeing that any information/guidance provided does not constitute or substitute for legal, psychological, financial, medical, or business advice. You claim full responsibility for the choices and/or actions taken based on the content of any and all religious activities here.
Religions are also political factions that have historically done their best to hide every single crime they commit and condone injustice on a grand scale.
It is why they can't break out of medieval thinking and can't imagine a world without resorting to fuedalistic thinking.
What happened to Sunday School? I know this sounds crazy, but there are two non-school days every week where christianists can send their devil-spawn.
Churches are hemorrhaging members because people are leaving the religion in droves! That’s why these groups are trying to suck kids in-it’s easier to brainwash them when they’re too young to think for themselves and learn about other religions as well!
So glad I don't live in a red state where some people are forced to do crap like this.
I have religious trauma. When I was a child any setting of religious indoctrination gave me panic attacks and anxiety. I knew it was complete lies and I expected to believe the lies. These people are groomers and abusers. They should be jailed for child abuse.
That was a legal brief? Wow. Their lawyer is awful. You should not present information like that to a court. If the courts accept it that way, that court is poorly ran. Commonly we dont like 'legalese'. But to properly define law and its breach, you need very specific language. This brief is not it.
Sadly, Lifewise will win that case though. IP laws protect against this.
I'm not a lawyer, but if all of the PDF documents he downloaded are submitted to the court as evidence, would that make them a matter of public record?
All religion, by definition, is child abuse; there are no exceptions or qualifications. Religious parents abuse their own children and the State enables and defends it.
When I was a kid in the 1950s, parents sent me to a Southern Baptist Summer School Bible Course. 3 learnings: All the Flesh/Pink crayons were inexplicably used up first (Palestinians on TV were not pink); their grapefruit juice tasted metallic; their basic message was nonsense. That summer started me down the path of atheistism, so TY Southern Baptists?
Southern Baptist Summer Vacation Bible School, sorry for the mindo (a typo of the mind).
No student should be allowed to be taken out of school for religious indoctrination. If parents want to give their children religion teaching, it should happen after school and on the parents' dime. Separation of Church and State.
Because what America needs is LESS education.
People who say things like that are utterly reliant on tech and a big fan of it? Really. Hmmm. Less education. So other countries will have tech, but we won't? Oh that is a greeeat plan. Other countries will have medicine, but we will have snake oil. Other countries will have paid workers, but we will have indentured slaves. Ah. I see.
Well if you don't like this country or its education, maybe um, you know, leave?
Why do we need science when we can have superstition! Woohoo! /s
It is far easier to manipulate the uneducated!
I live in Utah, and seminary is a very popular class here. Most middle and high schools have a church-funded seminary building next to the public school. Personally, I don't have a problem with it. I personally don't like the Mormon church, but to each their own. That being said, as a high school teacher, I've literally had students almost not graduate because they were missing credits that were taken by seminary (it's a non-credit class). It is possible to take seminary all 4 years of high school and still graduate, but you cannot fail any classes; otherwise, you won't have the necessary credits. A lot of students take early morning seminary before school to avoid this issue, but then they don't get adequate sleep a lot of the time. I also had a few LGBTQ+ students who hated seminary and didn't want to go but were forced to take the class, which resulted in some behavior issues. I personally took seminary and found it to be boring and unfulfilling. They aren't teaching anything that the Mormon church isn't already teaching on Sunday. As I said, to each their own, but as an educator, I did find it annoying to have to continually go out of my way to cater to students who were in danger of not graduating because they took seminary instead. It's extra work for me when I have to give a student special attention to get them caught up when they miss out. I taught online classes and was often forced to take students at the last minute who were in danger of not graduating (for any reason, not just seminary) and get them through an entire semester before the end of the year. I personally don't feel that it should be my job to ensure that your student doesn't fail their academic classes in order to pursue religion. That is your choice as a parent and should be your job as a parent to make sure your student doesn't fall behind if you choose to have them do this.
It puts them behind in their studies and can prevent them from graduating, but you don't have a problem with it?
@@Wednesdaywoe1975 As I said, it's their choice. I just don't think I personally should have to be responsible for thier choice as their academic teacher. That's the part I have a problem with. And truthfully, it's only been a handful of students over the years who have been in danger of not graduating for this specific reason. Most students take seminary and do just fine. Far more students don't graduate because they're just absent from school altogether, a choice that I also don't feel that I should be responsible for unless the absence is for a legitimate reason like an extended health issue.
Religious indoctrination is child abuse plain and simple.
The fact that LGBTQ+ people hated seminary and were forced to go should be enough to counter the "it's their choice" rationale. Forcing LGBTQ+ students into an anti-LGBTQ+ religious environment is abusive.
@@AlexsGoogleAccount I agree. Unfortunately as their taecher, I have no say in the matter. All I can do is validate the student's feelings and still require them to go. It's a legal liability for me if I don't. They should not be forced to go, but there's little I can do about it except for be there for them when they get back to school.
Why can’t they just run this as a Sunday school/after school thing? Why do they need to take kids out of school?
Perhaps a good lawyer could argue that this should be public knowledge because public dollars support it. Parents of public school students have access to math, English, history, etc… curriculums so why not this. But not a $10,000 lawyer. A much more expensive lawyer who’s connected with the court & judge. It will,take more than a Go Fund Me lawyer to win or even settle for “even”
Yep, get them young is how religion works. Then lie if caught! And it's pretty telling that they don't want people to know what they teach. 👍🏼🌊💙💙💙🌊🥰✌🏽
By law, parents have a right to view the curriculum.
1. I'm old enough to remember back when Evangelijokes demanded every teacher in every classroom post their curriculum.
2. The damages phase of the lawsuit is where this gets fun. Lifewise needs to explain, under oath, how the public knowing their curriculum damages them.
3. "Release Time" is ubiquitous in Utah and has been for a decades. MOST Utah high schools have a Mormon "Seminary" building within walking distance (in my high school the building was on the same lot as the school).
You don't need to be particularly old to remember that.
With the claims that schools are teaching "Critical Race Theory" just a couple of years ago, there was a loud push to force teachers to provide parents with their full curriculum and to give parents the legal ability to sue if they didn't like what was in it.
They forced a Seminary onto campuses in SouthWest Wyoming because of "donations" and then stacked the staff and professors with mormons immediately following, after slowly plying pressure and forcing all the REAL academics out. That church is insidious. That Church also wiggles its way onto hiring committees at incorporations and turns all jobs into political assignments done by the church for the church's sake. This is the danger of tithing.
I just heard you mentioned in the MeidasTouch channel! Your name spreads far and wide, friend. :)
Sue them for child abuse
We have every right to full disclosure _before_ we sign up and/or pay anything for it! Their insistence on refusing to do so makes this group highly suspect!
Just wanted to add that this has come to NE Ohio (Berea and elsewhere), and some parents are pushing back.
I haven't heard this, can you give details? I teach at BW
So just like with all the other Televangelist Prophets, it's all about the PROFITS!!!!!
More Proof that religion/god belief is nothing but Big Business.
Clearly they have something to hide in suing about publication of their curriculum.
As a educational institution their curriculum should be freely available under the freedom of information Act people have every right to know what their children are being taught
If you are offering something to the public, everything about what you are offering must also be made known to the public, and if you do not want us, the public, to know exactly what it is that you are offering, then all you can reasonably do is take a long drink out of a "Shut the fuh" cup and GTFO.
And no, your advertising/PR department does not count as telling the public exactly what you do. Those are literally just paying people to lie to others.
When my children were just starting school their friends were going to Sunday School and invited them along, I agreed, but since I was not a member of that particular Church, the one I belonged to had no branch in the town I lived in at the time, I went along to audit the class, it was pretty standard fare, they had gotten to the point where Jesus had been doing his miracles and healing folks, then they got into Jesus' being questioned about reincarnation, the teacher kept to the text, which quite frankly I would interpret as Christ affirming the idea of reincarnation, at that point the teacher began to explain that prior to becoming enlightened Christians primitive people had some really ridiculous beliefs, but thankfully we now know better. I began ticking off all of the Christian beliefs that we actually do know better but still teach our kids. From there I kind of latched on to the idea that maybe teaching kids to accept ideas strictly on faith because someone in authority tells them to, sets them up to be victims of cults later in life, something I had not considered up to that time. We spent the afternoon that Sunday discussing how rude it was to disrespect other peoples ridiculous beliefs, when we had so many of our own. Thankfully they had friends from both the Muslim and Hindi communities so we could compare different beliefs and respect all of them. I think for myself, while I am not an Atheist, I have had too many experiences of being in the presence of a higher power, it was never in Church. I suspect God doesn't go there often him/her self.
Wonder how much bullying (aka christian love) awaits any students who don't "volunteer" for this program? Nothing says "God loves you" like "get on the bus and head to the church class or I'll kick your bleep "
If I remember correctly if they go to court for this all the material will be entered with court and then it’s a freedom of information request to get it all
I remember in high school, getting on a bus and going up the road, less than 100 yards, to a separate building, for CountyName Christian Learning Center. And that was over 20 years ago.
States post their Standards of Learning online; every entity offering education should have no problem making their whole curriculum public.
Lets not mince words here, its not teaching its brainwashing
In The UK our established church, CofE here on in., can run indoctrination centres or schools. This is an effective way of making atheists. I remember being told The Doubting Thomas Story, and thinking that's a man after my own heart. Then being absolutely blown away by the fact that my head teacher thought it was a bad thing not take it on trust. Made me an atheist, once my mum told me it was an option.
The religious groups always complain about curriculum not being available in public schools, (which is not true as far as my experience as a retired teacher of 38 years) so it seems funny that the same type of group wouldn’t want their curriculum being widely available?
Don't churches have Sunday school anymore?🤷
If they are getting public funding , shouldn't the curriculum be available to the public to see what is being taught
I'm pretty sure that there is a law that makes what he shared something that the public should know anyway
Lifewise did not do a background check?
It does not say much for the vetting of its 'teachers'.
😢 Common sense regarding their children’s safety has been indoctrinated out of them.
At my public high school, back in the 60s, we were allowed to leave school an hour early each week for "Junior Fellowship," at the Congregational Church, essentially Bible class. Similarly, Jewish kids were allowed to leave to go to Hebrew School. So, what they're doing is not new, but it used to be done within specific denominations. By the way, I'm no longer part of a church community.
We also did that during my school attendance in the 1970s in NJ but it was limited to about 5 days of early release in middle school when most religions were preparing for confirmations or bar mitzvahs and the students needed to practice. We were expected to get the actual religious instruction during Sunday school or Torah study.
He should try a whistle blower approach since he was an employee
There is still a process to follow for whistleblowing and publishing which almost certainly will not protect this guy for his actions.
"We take your kids out of school, and fill their heads with bullshit."
MOM: “What did you learn today?”
JOHNNY: “I learned the earth was round in science class and the earth was flat in Bible class.”
these people are not teaching anything the kids can use in life.
Being subservient and stupid and not understanding anything. It is kind of where we are already at today. It all goes back to the Boomer generation and Ronald Reagan.
If this is part of a public school education, shouldn't the material be public?
It should be an after school activity
The school of my grandchildren offers lots of afterschool activities from all kind of organisations. From sports to acting and from chess to spell activies where kids learn to work with each to get to certain goals via play. The church is welcome to organize their activity as well but after school
This should not happen during school.
I went to a catholic school with nuns but the weekly miss and confession with the whole school happened after school hours.
French lessons as well because that was not part of the curriculem in the schools in my country.
Lmfao a life wise bus went to my local water park last week, I was wondering wtf they were about
They were about bribing the kids to not study or learn so they could preach to them some more. Good cop / Bad cop with the real teachers being the "bad cop" or "the devil." This is pretty much poisoning the well and grooming kids to distrust all books except for their special book and the people holding the special book most of all.
Without transparency they can leave children alone.
Creationist Ken Ham and his Big Gay Pleasure Cruise. - Milo Rossi
One of the incidents that led to my eventual (around 40 years of age) transition from considering myself a "flawed Christian" for my doubts to being positive about my agnostic/atheistic conviction was being invited to help wash the bus being used for "Released Time Christian Education" in my town. I did it just once, because before taking brush to hand, I was asked if I had any reservations about the program. Since the outlook of the American Baptist church I was attending was rather ecumenical and inclusive of other traditions, I did not exactly understand why it could be thought of as controversial. But when I realized that the curriculum was from the town's more fundamentalist churches I decided I need not help that program.
Other uncovered hypocrisies in the name of Christianity when they made me a deacon completed my withdrawal yet there was at least a decade of slight guilt for leaving until I finally felt free. Such is the power of early programming in childhood, and why they work so hard to mold young minds.
US DEPARTMENT OF LABOR EMPLOYMENT REPORT, DATED JULY 22 2034-
“THERE IS AN 30% OVERSUPPLY OF MINISTERIAL GRADUATES, AND AN 30 % SHORTAGE OF DOCTORS, MECHANICAL TECHNICIANS, RESEARCH
SCIENTISTS , AND HISTORIANS”!!
2034?
Kinda hard to watch his recent vids. Weird sound & frame(?) stuttering. Anyone else have these issues??
I've noticed this as well. The sound constantly cuts out, which is difficult for those who listen to these videos.
I've noticed this on a few other websites recently. Probably a glitch on youtubes end, probably related to background data mining...
Good luck scraping my short-bus phone bitches.
Channels, not websites
My bad.
Release time seminary run by the LDS curch is a long time institution in Utah, since there are so many Mormons. Whenever they build a public school they always leave room for a LDS seminary building next door.
But for us poor sods that were raised outside of Utah we had to get up early and do religious seminary classes every weekday morning before heading off to school. Either at the local church building, or if you didn't live close enough to a church then you would do home study.
That is an hour of religious study before heading to school. It suuuuucked!
They took over a brilliant Community College that had some top notch PhD Professors....some were famous in their fields. This is where I grew up, 200 miles from SLC. They ruined the college and run off the brilliant staff, and made it a de facto Mormon college.
Prior to that, the town was run by the Mafia. They did the mafia in which was a good thing, I thought...and replaced it with their religious mafia.
The benefit to donating in this situation is to support people who speak truth to power, and expose nefarious activity. The organization, as others have said, is hiding their tactics because they don’t want people to see what a manipulative and destructive nuisance they are while trying to operate under the cover of darkness. Interesting story
I would’ve been one of the only kids not going to one of these things, we used to have little religious events “see you at the pole”, I was always one of maybe only a handful of kids who didn’t go there. Having this when I was kid would’ve isolated me from my Christian peers even further. They didn’t need any help, once they figured out I wasn’t a Christian hardly anyone would even speak to me.
In the '80's my high school had a bible club that met during lunch. If it had been just that, everyone would be fine. But no.
Attendees would go around in a pack, before school & between classes 'witnessing to' (harrassing) those they'd decided were 'hell-bound' (mostly kids of divorce, closeted lgbtq kids, immigrants, 'free-thinkers', art/ceramics kids, gamers, skaters & of course the smokers).
They'd litter the school with little bible tracts, target specific kids for days & weeks on end, show up at kids' homes on the weekends & hold 'prayer circles' in their yards...Basically made themselves obnoxious in every way evangenitals (spelled to reflect their primary focus- stole this from an anti-trump Canadian) make themselves obnoxious.
Cue 6 D&D gamers, (aka 'tools of satan') who got fed up, ordered /purchased 6 copies of the Satanic Bible (Waldenbooks in the mall lol) & we proceeded to have meetings, discussing the text in the opposite end of the cafeteria.
Mayhem ensued.
To say there was much hand-wringing & gnashing of teeth is putting it mildly.
Parents were crying &/or screaming at PTA & board meetings for months.
Fortunately sanity prevailed, due in no small part to us pointing out the many, many points of agreement & convergance between the levay text & that other '80's bible: 'how to win friends & influence people' . Our argument was so flawless BOTH groups were summarily booted off campus & relegated the same status as any other bunch of kids who enjoy hanging out after school.
The evangenitals became Extremely pissy when they realized that was our entire goal all along & they'd occasionally show up & pray in our lawns, but watering the grass moved them all along quickly.
Good times! 😂
I agree. Lifewise will cause mayhem.
His mistake was posting the whole, rather than only parts!! However, he can't be sued for defamation, because he stuck to truth -- it was only their own words he quoted!!
13:45 Some classes only meet once/twice a week. Like what they told us in college - if you have a class that meets twice a week, and you miss 3 classes, you're already missing over week of classes.
They're just money grubbers. Why else would you put a paywall on religious teachings? It should be open for all to learn.
Especially since, if the Bible is the inspired word of god, like they claim, and everyone already has its teachings imprinted on their hearts, as they also claim, then there’s nothing they could be teaching these kids that they don’t already know
The public should know what such organization's curriculums are, I would think - but not copyrighted material. It seems their 27 page summary and expert information on the negative effects would be the way to go. All such organizations should be subject to informed disclosure.
Sooo, its just a product, and they figured out how to legally sell it to children "during school hours". Imagine if Walmart got access to schools, to sell their products during school hours.
I remember when i was a Christian, there was this small independent church which had a written course on the "proper teaching of the bible", so like a small book laid out like a simple guide, nothing fancy; maybe 200 pages.
I had spoken with members of thay church, and they were certain to the letter they had the right interpretation! So I, maybe 18 at the time, emailed them for a copy of "the truth of god". And they responded with a link to buy the course for $200ish....
It was then I learned, some christians, even the smallest churches, arent in it to really spread the gospel at all costs, but use the gospel to pay for their bills.
He might find a legal loophole due to them having provided free access that anybody could have reasonably and legally used. By giving the general public the passwords they essentially opened the material up to the general public. I hope he uses this
This data is going to get everywhere. They’ll never be able to get it off line
I would counter with parental infringement…use religious freedom to his advantage and this guy can severely limit unauthorized teaching with the laws they created. Especially if they aren’t declaring which bible they are using. A blanket copyright doesn’t include every word…only what is documented with the library of congress.
i need to see the meme that Mr. Parrish submitted i need to see it so bad 😂😂😂😂🙏🙏🙏
Losing the lawsuit might stop him from criticizing Lifewise. That strategy definitely stopped The Cult Awareness Network from criticizing Scientology.
What about the Scientology documents that got published a long time ago? Should have that been put online?
back in the 60s, this was the norm. I got dragged to Saint Raphael's every Wednesday to get beat up by penguins
Then the website needs to be mirrored multiple times. It's out in the public now.
Not a lawyer myself. But it seems to me there's a problem with the Lifewise suit. My understanding is that the plaintiff will only be allowed compensation for lost sales. Given that it's not publicly available...
How can LifeWise copyright a curriculum used in public schools?
Keep your bibles to yourself. I don't want to see one
My daughter graduated a few years back. I still remember the hoops we had to jump through just to get the kid out of school for doctors visits.
Things like this always seem to end the same… the leaders and organizers of the “academy” will eventually be charged with misappropriating funds, embezzlement and SA of the students.
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Do they allow parents to remove students for Wicken, New Age, Budist, Islamic, Seventh Day Adventist, Latter Day Saints, and even Roman Catholic religous training? Maybe there is even a skate board acamadey out there?
We definitely need to excuse kids from class three days a week so that they can play Dungeons & Dragons. At least that will give them an intuitive understanding of something useful: statistics.
I would say he has a fair chance of winning the suit because they are not making money off their book. They are not selling it so the only way someone can get it is by doing something like this man did and he is providing access for parents to review ciriculium when it is their only means. The only harm comes from parents reading it though they cannot purchase it which means using copyright to prevent a state sponsored program from being known about!
This stuff has to be done more or church will rule the state.
Thanks Hemant. The voices of secular humanist's, atheist's, and all rational people must have their volume turned way up. The US has gone stark raving mad, Show us a god or shut up FFS. 🇦🇺💙
Can students get release time to go to classes promoting atheism? If not, why not?
Ummm...
Isn't that what Sunday school / Vacation Bible school / the children's own family is for?
The curriculum can be posted without infringing copyright, if it's paraphrased. As for the documents, including the curricilum, he was likely handed a stack of paperwork, so nothing illegal, there. If he did go into a room and downloaded it off the computer, if unsecured, or using his own login, that would be legal, though he would have to limit what he posted to the site to excerpts. Of course there might be a huge caveat to their claims. Their own curriculum and teaching materials may might not even be their own, as a lot of groups like this share a lot of materials like this.
Is a former fiercely religious person I enjoy your content. I am not an atheist but I do think that you have good points and I appreciate your information and viewpoint.
There is a direct correlation between greater religiosity and less economic opportunity, less freedom.
I live in utah. Its even worse here. Here, the mormon church has a "seminary" building at every jr high and high school. The students have "released time" on their daily schedule where they can walk across the parking lot and go to church.
Its an open secret that "the church" still owns the government in utah.
In the UK, we (Unless in a Religous School) are not indoctrinated INTO 1 belief system or other, we are instead TAUGHT ABOUT various religions
When I was in elementary school, in the 50s, some of the Jewish kids in my class got excused early one day a week to attend something called “Hebrew School.” It was not a big deal.
aww he removed all of it because of the lawsuit - I wanted to see it
Use Wayback Machine.
@@volk4523 yes.
If they are working with public schools like this, shouldn't they have to publish their curriculum for parents to see? What if a parent wants to see it before deciding to send their child?