Lars Erik Brobakken It's a win for Nepo, he pinned the white rook against the king and now his rook will pick up the queen, Magnus actually resigned because he extended his hand before he moved
Aryaman Tewari No it's a draw. White can simply play Qg6+ and if black takes than white will win. So black should retreat the king to h8/g8 and Qd8+ with a draw.
guys its a draw..just listen to what nepomniachtchi said when he moved the rook to d5 square...he said i offer a draw and magnus accepted the draw...simple
Nepomniachtchi at 7:48 whispered "Let's draw." Carlsen has no choice but to perpetual check by Qe8/g6 else he loses his Rook, which is why Nepomniachtchi offered it.
@Mudd0000 so he have two basic lines here i)1. Qg6+ Qxg6 2. fxg6+ Kxg6 3. Rxd5 and white wins with material advantage ii)1. Qg6+ Kg8 2. Qe8+ Kh7 3. Qg6+ Kh8 4. Qe8+ (so it's either 3-move repetition or perpetual check, both are consider to be a draw) now in ii if 2. Qe8+ Qf8 3. Qxf8+ Kxf8 4. Rxd5 white wins Also check 7.49 where Ian says (watch his mouth) "I offer a Draw"
you can tell it's drawn because he asked for the draw! ~7:48 about, nepo asks for the draw as he makes his move. Carlsen thinks it over for a couple seconds, see the inevitable draw, and accepts/gives the handshake. Nepo then stops the clock.
The question in my comment was genuine; it wasn't a joke. I don't like it when people say "common sense" simply because what may be obvious to some isn't to others. I didn't hear either of the players say "draw" at the end of the game, which is what prompted me to ask.
@KillaNinja0 I agree! I think people don't know the theory and play randomly!!!! I do and I don't like Ke7, its a personal taste! I don't mind the fischer recommended line for black as its dynamic but better for white, but its a matter of taste! maybe I haven't looked at ke7 enough, therefore this year I've started to learn 1.E5 and maybe take up the chebalinsk again one day!!!! you a sveshnikov fan?
@calidude146 A draw must be offered vocally by one of the players and at that point, the other player has until it's his move to accept or decline the draw. If you listen closely, you will hear at 7:50 Nepo offer a draw to Carlsen after he makes his move, at which point Carlsen quickly accepts by handshake. All draws must be offered vocally, sometimes players whisper the offer--as was the case in this game--and sometimes they're a little louder, but a draw was offered here per chess rules.
JONAS CAMPOS LOL jonas. First of all, Magnus didnt lose the tower. He could perfectly trade it. Secondly, it's a draw by perpetual check by white (if you dont see that, I'd suggest you not to comment in this kind of videos) so there is no way he would lose the game whatsoever. And third, Nepomniachtchi offered a draw, you can perfectly hear that
Andrés Gutiérrez Álvarez I may not be seeing the board correctly, but if Qg6+, then QxQ, f5xg6+, forcing Kxg6, allowing for nothing more than a Draw (though I'm awful, so...), unless after the forced Kxg6, Re5xRd5, which makes it hard for me to understand an "obvious" Draw, and I was hoping you could point out something I'm surely missing. (I hope my tone isn't coming across as supercilious, as I'm genuinely trying to learn.) Thanks.
@calidude146 if someone offers a draw and you don't move then if you handshake (admitting that the game is over) that means you accepted the offer you 've been made...if someone offers you a draw and you move that means you are rejecting that offer so when you admit that the game is over with a handshake (if there is no new draw offer) it means you surrender
Well a draw you tend to say/ask 'Draw?' or if you were a gentlemen like me, you would ask 'Would you like a draw'? If both players agree, they just do a casual handshake. If one resign, they put out their hand out without saying anything that has to do with a draw.
I'm so confused, how can anyone consider this a draw... First, there is no indication of Nepo offering a draw, second, Carlsen's rook looks lost, and third, this absurd line of Qg6+ What????? Someone please explain to me what happens after Qg6+, Kxg6 as well as Qg6+ Qxg6. Because both look absolutely lost to me and I think carlsen agrees.
@KillaNinja0 No, not at all. But Carlson can play 1.Qg6+ where black must move his king to the 8th rank. Black loses if he takes the queen on g6. After black moves his king to the 8th rank, white can force the draw by playing Qe8+ or continue play with QxQd6. Obviously black will recapture the queen on d6 with his rook. And that's where both sides would have a rook and 4 pawns. So, it's a draw by agreement here.
Непомнящий на 7 :46 сказал ничья?И махнул головой и Магунс согласился,не может быть того чтобы магнус сдался там элементарная ничья фg6+ ,Карлсен не мог этого не заметить
Can someone explain why Carlsen didn't play this at the end: Qg6+, white should play Kg8, and Carlsen Re8+? Then white has to sacrifice the queen! Is there something I'm missing?
It's funny when someone extends their hand like that you're supposed to say "draw?" otherwise it's assumed you're resigning but at their level doesn't make difference they know the deal.
@calidude146 When someone is totally lose it's a handshake for a surrender,and if the game is totally equal is for a draw, both players know how is the chess game going
I love that variation its so solid for black, but everyone shoves the big knight on d6 and I basically lose the bishop for nothing and everyone knows the line recommended by fischer!
@calidude146 Simple, seeing the final position you know what is the result (if you are not too weak^^). Ok maybe you must be rating 2000 elo sometimes to understand, but if you are a newbee don't even try to understand anything of grand master games !! Knowing the rules of chess doesn't mean that you know how to play.
It's a draw. If Qg6+ Kg8, not QxQ or White wins! Then Carlsen can only continue by giving perpetual as the rook is pinned (no mate!). But he never loses as he has the perpetual.
wow, casi mate en 6, era solo para que carlsen moviera Reina a g6+, Rey a g8, Reina por d6, Reina por e5+, Rey g1, peón por h6, peón f6, Reina por f6, peón b5, Torre d1+, Rey h2, Reina e5+, peón g3, Reina e2, JAQUE MATE
Just to explain it to those people that can't see how did black won. When Carlsen took black pawn with his rook he actually pinned down his rook since that black pawn was the only thing that was protecting white king from queen attack. So, rook can't move, if black takes it with queen white will be forced to take it with his and lose it to black rook. Black will be 1 piece up so Carlsen resigned as soon as he saw his ''ROOKie'' mistake (see what I did there, ha?) :)
+daweedian84 you seem like an amateur and just learned how the pin works. we know that the white rook is pinned, but what we don't know is when did they agree on a draw. because obviously carlsen can easily play Qg6 and that's a draw.
Ahmed Alhammadi This comment was just a reply to all those people that had no clue what happened, because there is a lot of them here. And when you say ''we'' it would be nice to speak for yourself and/or skip my comment since it has nothing to do with you or just to read the rest of the comments and learn what is this all about before replying to mine :) Thank you, have a nice day.
@KillaNinja0 well fujnily enough me too! I've had help from so meone who is IM strength ( no title) and he taught me how to think and assess and I strangled a strong player before i mis-calculated and lost but his advice was incredible and he showed me examples on chess magic and the best book on end games! I'll b world champ in no time!
Yamil Alberto Ramos Aponte Es empate Nepomniachthli murmura draw en su ultima jugada, y Carlsen acepta dandole la mano, el estrecha su mano aceptando el empate no resignando el juego, en el analisis de la jugada se nota que es empate Carlsen puede hacer jaque con la reina si nepo captura su reina, el hace jaque con el peon entonces nepo perderia su torre, por lo tanto nepo no podria capturar la reina por eso murmura la palabra draw que es empate
For those who are confused about the result. It was a draw. If you listen closely at 7:46 you can hear Nepo say "I offer draw."
Lars Erik Brobakken It's a win for Nepo, he pinned the white rook against the king and now his rook will pick up the queen, Magnus actually resigned because he extended his hand before he moved
Aryaman Tewari No it's a draw. White can simply play Qg6+ and if black takes than white will win. So black should retreat the king to h8/g8 and Qd8+ with a draw.
Aryaman Tewari u r correct. magnus knew it was over at this point and resigned.
Its not a draw -_-
@@michaell4527 It is... white has perpetual check with his queen. Are you a PATZER?
Wrong side camera, no clock :-(
guys its a draw..just listen to what nepomniachtchi said when he moved the rook to d5 square...he said i offer a draw and magnus accepted the draw...simple
Nepomniachtchi at 7:48 whispered "Let's draw." Carlsen has no choice but to perpetual check by Qe8/g6 else he loses his Rook, which is why Nepomniachtchi offered it.
11 years later, in same November, they gonna play for the World champion title!
magnus played again world championship with nepomniachtchi in this month
@Mudd0000 so he have two basic lines here
i)1. Qg6+ Qxg6 2. fxg6+ Kxg6 3. Rxd5 and white wins with material advantage
ii)1. Qg6+ Kg8 2. Qe8+ Kh7 3. Qg6+ Kh8 4. Qe8+ (so it's either 3-move repetition or perpetual check, both are consider to be a draw)
now in ii if 2. Qe8+ Qf8 3. Qxf8+ Kxf8 4. Rxd5 white wins
Also check 7.49 where Ian says (watch his mouth) "I offer a Draw"
It is almost symbolic, carlsen is white and he is dress all ahite, ian is black and he is dress all black lol
So glad you noticed that....... DAMN right it's symbolic!
Your WELCOME
Lol
you can tell it's drawn because he asked for the draw! ~7:48 about, nepo asks for the draw as he makes his move. Carlsen thinks it over for a couple seconds, see the inevitable draw, and accepts/gives the handshake. Nepo then stops the clock.
@ Chessvibes: thanks for uploading, of course: but please give AT LEAST the endresult as it is not clear wether its a draw or a winn.
The question in my comment was genuine; it wasn't a joke. I don't like it when people say "common sense" simply because what may be obvious to some isn't to others. I didn't hear either of the players say "draw" at the end of the game, which is what prompted me to ask.
@KillaNinja0 I agree! I think people don't know the theory and play randomly!!!! I do and I don't like Ke7, its a personal taste! I don't mind the fischer recommended line for black as its dynamic but better for white, but its a matter of taste!
maybe I haven't looked at ke7 enough, therefore this year I've started to learn 1.E5 and maybe take up the chebalinsk again one day!!!!
you a sveshnikov fan?
@calidude146
A draw must be offered vocally by one of the players and at that point, the other player has until it's his move to accept or decline the draw. If you listen closely, you will hear at 7:50 Nepo offer a draw to Carlsen after he makes his move, at which point Carlsen quickly accepts by handshake.
All draws must be offered vocally, sometimes players whisper the offer--as was the case in this game--and sometimes they're a little louder, but a draw was offered here per chess rules.
just one question: how do you tell the difference between a handshake for a draw and a surrender?
7:47 when doing the move Rd5, you can hear that Nepo offered draw. Then Magnus accepted the offer.
of course not, carlsen losed his tower, ian destroyed him, magnus decline, he lose
JONAS CAMPOS LOL jonas. First of all, Magnus didnt lose the tower. He could perfectly trade it. Secondly, it's a draw by perpetual check by white (if you dont see that, I'd suggest you not to comment in this kind of videos) so there is no way he would lose the game whatsoever. And third, Nepomniachtchi offered a draw, you can perfectly hear that
Andrés Gutiérrez Álvarez I may not be seeing the board correctly, but if Qg6+, then QxQ, f5xg6+, forcing Kxg6, allowing for nothing more than a Draw (though I'm awful, so...), unless after the forced Kxg6, Re5xRd5, which makes it hard for me to understand an "obvious" Draw, and I was hoping you could point out something I'm surely missing. (I hope my tone isn't coming across as supercilious, as I'm genuinely trying to learn.)
Thanks.
is a Draw. there is a pawn un f5, so Queen g6+ and Queen e8+ is repeticion.if Nepo take con g6 he looses his rook.
yes u right i think so draw
Its not a draw its a win for nepo. Magnus is about to lose his rook.
Rookh pinned of magnus
Ровно через 11 лет они сыграют снова..
Where could I get a set like this? Anyone know?
why he dont play at the end Qg6? if queen take pawn with check and the rook falls. if kg8/kh8 Qe8 and draw.
Who Is The Winner , Nepo Or Carlsen ?
@calidude146 if someone offers a draw and you don't move then if you handshake (admitting that the game is over) that means you accepted the offer you 've been made...if someone offers you a draw and you move that means you are rejecting that offer so when you admit that the game is over with a handshake (if there is no new draw offer) it means you surrender
why is that draw?? how?? who's the one offered a draw??
Well a draw you tend to say/ask 'Draw?' or if you were a gentlemen like me, you would ask 'Would you like a draw'? If both players agree, they just do a casual handshake. If one resign, they put out their hand out without saying anything that has to do with a draw.
Carlsen could have played 7. Nd6+ instead of a3. Right?
I'm so confused, how can anyone consider this a draw... First, there is no indication of Nepo offering a draw, second, Carlsen's rook looks lost, and third, this absurd line of Qg6+ What?????
Someone please explain to me what happens after Qg6+, Kxg6
as well as Qg6+ Qxg6. Because both look absolutely lost to me and I think carlsen agrees.
based on the position and who offers the handshake you can usually tell what one it is
@KillaNinja0 No, not at all. But Carlson can play 1.Qg6+ where black must move his king to the 8th rank. Black loses if he takes the queen on g6. After black moves his king to the 8th rank, white can force the draw by playing Qe8+ or continue play with QxQd6. Obviously black will recapture the queen on d6 with his rook. And that's where both sides would have a rook and 4 pawns. So, it's a draw by agreement here.
@sn0o0o0ppy Dg6+ Rg8 De8 dranw or Dg6+ Dg6 Fg6+ Rg6 Td4 with won .....??? who winner?
I like how Carlson plays
Who is this Nepomniachtchi? looks like he is playing without much effort
Because he isn't going to take the queen on g6. Ian knew this, and said 'Let's draw' because of the g6-e8 perpetual check
Какой конкретно фразой предлагается ничья на таких международных турнирах?
***** ааа. а вообще можно любую фразу сказать, лишь бы поняли? Как бы нет строгих норм?
Ян сказал let's draw (давай вничью).
am biggest fan a magnus.................!
who did win?????
@@philipgerlach7074 Are you STUPID????
Непомнящий на 7 :46 сказал ничья?И махнул головой и Магунс согласился,не может быть того чтобы магнус сдался там элементарная ничья фg6+ ,Карлсен не мог этого не заметить
by experience :P...
mostly based on how drawish the position is (or isn't) and the time remaining
Can someone explain why Carlsen didn't play this at the end: Qg6+, white should play Kg8, and Carlsen Re8+? Then white has to sacrifice the queen! Is there something I'm missing?
+Alireza Ameli you are calculating 3-5 played, they are calculating: 20 - 30 played. Now u can see the difference?
+Adversities NF-TJ They didn't play after that, they accepted the draw!
Same answer: "They are calculating: 20 - 30 played".
+Adversities NF-TJ I know they know more than me, that's why I asked the question! And I was hoping someone that knows the answer explain it to me.
Alireza Ameli Oh then sorry, i'm too lazy to study it. But i'm sure someone will explain u
It's funny when someone extends their hand like that you're supposed to say "draw?" otherwise it's assumed you're resigning but at their level doesn't make difference they know the deal.
Gostaria de saber quem ganhou.
+Jucelia tolentino souza Foi empate.
+Jucelia tolentino souza - Tecnicamente o Carlsen perdeu, por isso ele pediu empate
+Questionador Empate por causa de xeques perpétuos.
You're making a shot in the dark, my friend.
is nepomniatchi listening to music?
Wait didn't Nepo win the rook? Why did he offer a draw?
Alex Little . Not winning the rook. White can play Qg6
This was a draw the queen can play to the edge of the board and give a check. After which the rooks are traded off.
Карлсен зевнул связку как так то???(
Так все равно ничья
you could usually tell by the position on the board
yeah he says at 7:48 "offer draw"
magnus lost this game ?
At 7:48 you could hear Nepomniachtchi whisper "lets draw"
Magnus Carlsen's father Henrik trying to get a better look at 2:49
Nice.
JAJAJA ERA EMPATE, NEPO ESTABA REZANDO PARA QUE CARLSEN NO LO VEA Y AL FINAL SE CAGA DE RISA CUANDO LE ESTIRA LA MANO, UN CRACK NEPO
Clown rock'n'roll quien gano?
@youssefboudjaj
was drawn.
7:49 я не увидел белую пешку на f5 - её загораживает белая ладья на e5 ))) Тогда конечно Фg6-e8 c вечным шахом! Магнус похоже предложил ничью!
+Павел Федоров Ничью предложил Непомнящий. Во время хода Re5 смотрите за его губами. 7:47
jai rien compris dame g6 ??
لطفي اوعلالن Dg6+ Rg8 0,5 - 0,5
@calidude146 When someone is totally lose it's a handshake for a surrender,and if the game is totally equal is for a draw, both players know how is the chess game going
wait wouldnt carlsen win the game he checks him bq takes then pawn takes check and then carlsen takes his rook and carlsen would be up a rook ???
@eisaatappaa no Qg6+ and Qe8+ draw by perpetual or Qg6+, QxQ, fxg6+, Kxg6 and RxR white wins, i'msure it was draw
I love that variation its so solid for black, but everyone shoves the big knight on d6 and I basically lose the bishop for nothing and everyone knows the line recommended by fischer!
What exactly was I wrong about?
fue tablas... nepomniachtch las propone... murmura is draw y magnus las acepta... nuca tan plumífero como para abandonar teniendo Dg6+
+carlo kovac Es tablas por jaque perpetuo.
+carlo kovac Es tablas por jaque perpetuo.
damn good spot! I missed it =)
Cool
empate. draw. tiene jaque perpetuo carlsen y nepo no va a tapar de dama xq después seria dxd rxd y txt y carlsen gana 1 torre.
Exacto. Tú sí pones atención, jaja.
it was a draw qg6 at the end and its a draw
7:48 Nepomniachtchi whispered: I offer a draw
It's funny because nepomniachtchi means "one who does not remember" in Russian. Kind of a bad quality for chess.
You look at the chessboard and analyze the position.
dude, he was just asking, let up?
@calidude146 Simple, seeing the final position you know what is the result (if you are not too weak^^). Ok maybe you must be rating 2000 elo sometimes to understand, but if you are a newbee don't even try to understand anything of grand master games !! Knowing the rules of chess doesn't mean that you know how to play.
Buen duelo (Y)
this one was a draw, because of the perpetual for Carlsen starting at move Qg6+ then after Kg8, Qe8+ and so on
black vs white. i mean shirts t shirts and Elegance
well, nepo asked for a draw after playing Rd5, i dont think carlsen would forfeit after a draw offer in a position where he ve a perpetual check xD
It's a draw. If Qg6+ Kg8, not QxQ or White wins! Then Carlsen can only continue by giving perpetual as the rook is pinned (no mate!). But he never loses as he has the perpetual.
Cool.
Carlson loses his rook, nemo has it pinned with his queen... Thus Carlson resigns.
Quem ganhou !!
it was a draw, Qg6+ Qe8+ repeated is forced
Porque carlsen se rindió si tenia las tablas con dama G6+ tenia tablas
XemMLGxXem o.O no se rinde, es un empate
Edison Tapia esque no se hablaron para las tablas
Draw yahh
wow, casi mate en 6, era solo para que carlsen moviera Reina a g6+, Rey a g8, Reina por d6, Reina por e5+, Rey g1, peón por h6, peón f6, Reina por f6, peón b5, Torre d1+, Rey h2, Reina e5+, peón g3, Reina e2, JAQUE MATE
N e p o m n i a c h... WHAT ?!
you don't... they do :P
como
Just to explain it to those people that can't see how did black won. When Carlsen took black pawn with his rook he actually pinned down his rook since that black pawn was the only thing that was protecting white king from queen attack. So, rook can't move, if black takes it with queen white will be forced to take it with his and lose it to black rook. Black will be 1 piece up so Carlsen resigned as soon as he saw his ''ROOKie'' mistake (see what I did there, ha?) :)
+daweedian84 you seem like an amateur and just learned how the pin works. we know that the white rook is pinned, but what we don't know is when did they agree on a draw. because obviously carlsen can easily play Qg6 and that's a draw.
Ahmed Alhammadi This comment was just a reply to all those people that had no clue what happened, because there is a lot of them here. And when you say ''we'' it would be nice to speak for yourself and/or skip my comment since it has nothing to do with you or just to read the rest of the comments and learn what is this all about before replying to mine :) Thank you, have a nice day.
At 7:47 black offers draw. White then accepts. Game over- draw
www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1599822
its a draw you fucking idiot. carlsen didnt resign
@KillaNinja0 well fujnily enough me too! I've had help from so meone who is IM strength ( no title) and he taught me how to think and assess and I strangled a strong player before i mis-calculated and lost but his advice was incredible and he showed me examples on chess magic and the best book on end games!
I'll b world champ in no time!
I think Carlsen made blunder because if you look Carlsen had his rook pinned to his king and so he resigned because he would lose rook.
If white Qg6 (check) and black Qg6, then g6 (check), white rook takes black rook (white wins). Otherwise it's a draw!
Black wins. Free rook at the end. If he moves it, it will be an open check. Its a huge handicap for carl losing his rook at that rate.
It was a DRAW... white even has a perpetual. Are you a PATZER?
Oh no it’s draw Qg6+ Kg8
Carlsen Resign.. .Because Open Check If Carlsen Move His Castle
carlsen is prince chess..
I like mangus
Knuckle crack: 3:56
carlsen's dad right hand corner 2:48 :P
repetition by carlsen
он шепнул "победа" ;)
@sn0o0o0ppy @00001k1 at @7:47 Nepo offers a draw, Carlsen accepts bye a handhsake
alguien que me explique quien gano carlsen o nepomniachthi please
nepomniachthli
Es Draw Carlsen puede hacer un perpetuo jake mate con la Reina y el peon
Gano nepo, era turno de carlsen y el dio la mano significa que el resigno del juego.
Yamil Alberto Ramos Aponte Es empate Nepomniachthli murmura draw en su ultima jugada, y Carlsen acepta dandole la mano, el estrecha su mano aceptando el empate no resignando el juego, en el analisis de la jugada se nota que es empate Carlsen puede hacer jaque con la reina si nepo captura su reina, el hace jaque con el peon entonces nepo perderia su torre, por lo tanto nepo no podria capturar la reina por eso murmura la palabra draw que es empate
Fue Tablas (draw). Hay un peón en f5 que garantiza la supervivencia de las blancas debido a la Qg6+
calrsen have a perpetual jaque on nepos so nepo offer a draw
I don't understand why magnus resign at last because he could give check by his queen at g6
This is a draw. The queen
@EpilepticWindow just like nakamura
Draw