I respect that max doesn't complain about how people play against him. That Shago that he lost to would have had me tilted. I hate defensive opportunists in games. They piss me off so bad. I'm more of an in your face type of player. Which probably explains why I suck at fighting games and COD.
+Michael Mayers (beast mode) yeah those are the guns I'm best with, I can get a good amount of kills, but my streak is never really bigger than 5. So I'm never getting high kill streaks.
Thats how fighting games are played mate. Thats like running into a street fight full flailing your arms and then wondering why you got knocked out in a single punch (ive been there lol). Best offence is a great defence.
Seriously, though. The only reason Shago is cool is that he's a giant salt shaker in a game that sanctions salt-inducing behavior. KI revels in cheesy shit-posturing, which is part of its charm. So Shago is thematically cool. Every time I fight against him, though, I imagine he's being played by the kind of person who is level 50, but doesn't attempt the ladder, because he wants to filter his exhibition matches for silver opponents and below. He's the kind of character that makes you hate his players, even though you know almost nothing about them.
I think Raam may be the shittiest character in Killer Instinct from a viewer perspective. He has two moves. Stomp and Stab. And half the time the screen in covered in bird shit so you can't even tell those apart. He's definitely cool looking, but that's only when you can actually see him through all the crap he clutters the screen with.
An' remember folks... This be from a *_VIEWER PERSPECTIVE,_* not that th' actual Raam be th' shittiest character in _KI_ period. Don't misread comments b'fore replyin', mates. But I have to say that havin' that Kryllstorm in a certain way for an instinct makes it seem a bit 'ore interestin' than other people's instincts... At least in me view.
Stun was a badass. But he also had more than two moves. He had actual grapples and shit that weren't some variation on "stab/stomp." That's Raam's whole problem. He's not that visually exciting.
This vid title captures my experience with RAAM yesterday 100% When other characters win, it can be impressive or at least educational. When Shago wins, it always feels like he just shit-fisted his way into it.
Im in a maximilian video! Im honored! even though all i did was spam fire ball (HERDERDERKEN) sorry. Much love max, always been a big fan, keep up the vids :D
Wow you're actually very smart with that Shadow Jago, keeping your distance was really smart. Spamming fire ball was essential since if he got anywhere close to you, you were going to get screwed.
Man, gotta love RAAM's "stab, throw, STOMP, STOMP" grapple. That shit is so brutal! Thoug, I must say, as much as I love RAAM, I felt kinda bad Max had to fight a Hisako player. :( Oh well, Shadow Jago avenged her. (sort of) >:)
Ariel Gonzalez It's a fighting game that got a lot of inspiration from the MvC games. It'd be great to see Max give it another go. They added a lot of characters since he played it and its damn nice to look at.
Question: How come at 3:10 Max is working in a nice combo then it looks like he's about to use a shadow move and it just stops with a weird sound-effect? (Sorry, I'm not a fighting-game guy in the slightest and I've never played K.I. I just watch Max's content.) Did Max just cancel the shadow move on purpose or was it interrupted or something?
What he did was an attempt or successful counter breaker. If the sound plays and nothing happends, then Max would've gotten punished for it. If it would of hit, Max would've gotten a free combo and the person would be locked out for a certain amount of time.
I think that once mods are fully supported in this game, someone should make an Apocalypse skin mod for RAAM, along with an Ultimate Warrior skin for Thunder. It seems appropriate
I kind of did to. He was like that one guy who spams hadoukens with Ryu in [Insert Street Fighter Game Name Here] Ranked Match all day and thinks they are better than most people.
It's sad some people won't even try anything else but the cheapest way to a victory, I mean where did all the FUN factor in games disappeared, seems that a vast majority of gamers these days just want that WIN even if they themselves don't really enjoy the path to it :/
I actually found it wise to do so since if Raam gets in he is fucked, so he played the keep away game for the most part. You could see how he tried to go in close range for a while and that only got him bodied so he went and played it safe again, its not shago´s fault that raamen cant take zoning
no he used zoneing to beat a command grab type character if that makes you mad then you might honestly want to get out of fighting games since thats the built in counter to them
ya i remember this, man i got a little salty that it took shadow jago to beat him, 1st one was almost a comeback, then 2nd one he just got killed. just wished it could have been someone from season 1
Could anyone tell me what character in this game is most similar to Alex in SF5? He's my main in that game and my favorite fighting game character, and now that I'm getting into this game, I want to play a character I'd be more comfortable with.
Yeah, Thunder is like Alex with some weird mobility options. I'm not too familiar with Alex beyond what I've watched, though. He's like a footsy grappler, right? Otherwise...yeah, chief Thunder is probably your closest bet to Alex. RAAM is almost there, but his footsies (while excellent) are really goddamn complicated.
When I first got to gold I versed a guy in killer that was raam and I was shadow jags and I barely clutched it and beat him I was so hype I'll never forget
Don't get me wrong, I love the Gears franchise and I could understand why they used RAAM instead of Skorge. But from what I've seen, the player base for Gears is pretty low and people who haven't really played only usually picked up on the first one. Maybe RAAM would be a bit more hype if people really knew who he was and where he came from. lmao I'm pretty sure a lot of people who play KI never even knew who he is. Besides that, I don't know. Would've been nice to see more combat with the Kryll instead of the knife.
max you have to let shago hang himself the majority of his attacks are unsafe and he is useless in a corner so if you get him in he has to grab or uppercut. but unfortunately raam falls to projectiles
totally not related, but I am waiting for the day for Max's stream to say "Welcome to stage of history", then Max will just scream "FUCK!" at the top of his lungs for some reason.
he's too defensive for some ppl to be successful. It almost as if he is a slower more power hisako, but depending on your defense he can be godlike or he can get overwhelmed easily
KI1 = Basically Street Fighter 2 with insane combos. You could play like street fighter and do very well. KI2 = KI1 with new and updated characters, better graphics, and meters that meant nothing. K13 = Strips out the deeper "Street Fighter 2"-like play aspects, Fatalities, and actual Ultra Combos, for a very dial-a-combo format. Adds Lock outs and huge character effects in more recent characters. Turning into a game it did not actually start as. KI3 needs to dial back some of these effects. 95% damage just by piling on more effects with little to no chance to retaliate is fun to watch (Raam is a Bulldozer and I LOVE it) but can't be fair in competition. It makes a fairly inept character, like Raam (the guy has the smallest toolbox of all the characters), much too dangerous for what they are. It is like Iron Galaxy didn't really do much work to really flesh Raam out so they made him as cheap as they could get away with. It is not the first time, they just massively over power characters, nearly to the point of breaking the game, only to have to dial them back and they end up being "last week's chopped liver". More powerful is not better. Granted this is a relatively new company literally developing the game, the characters anyway, on the fly, however work on making the characters actually better without making them overpowered despite what they are. Then add in previous version of characters. There are, for example, 3 versions of Fulgore and Sabrewolf, you could play if they added them in. It would be awesome to be able to use KI1 Fulgore's moveset which is considerably different from KI2 and both KI3 versions. Also get rid of or reduce those lockouts. I think the counter breaker is awesome but it needs to be at least as difficult as the a regular combo breaker, maybe make it a "struggle" or "grapple lock". Finally put back in more normal fighting game mechanics, not just the combo-centric system, so more normal characters, such as Fulgore Jago, Orchid, who have huge movesets and less big or internalized effects (like constant healing, accelerated charge up and so on) will have a fairer chance against these newer characters, especially if the area attack effects "Krill storm" for example as not nerfed.
Max stop hitting buttons when you corner Shago. He's going to try to escape and it's all reactable, but if you hit a button he's just gonna whiff punish you.
people in the comments mad about shago laming it out against max but in reality he was playing the mu how it should be he saw a weakness and took advantage of it that's how that match should have been played
In Shago's defense teleporting across the arena is insanely fun during an intermission otherwise yeah, _total_ easy button for one player and a struggle for the other 70% of the time.
While yes he is a mix-up character, he's up against Raam, a character that is immensely scary with how damaging he can be if he gets his knockdown loops going. I don't blame the Shago at ALL for staying away as much as he could, as getting in close would be playing chicken with your finger and a blender.
Season three is essentially 50% monsters, 40% acrobatic ladies, and 10% Max
Max = Tusk Right?
+Garrett Seno yep
That may be true, not many Kan-ra's though. I feel he got nerfed too hard
What about TJ?
+This name is boring i'm mostly listing the new characters
The size differences size of Raam and the Ghost girl is really a Andre vs Hulk type match.
He is 2-3 times the size of the lady toons. And to think people were joking why he only brings a 'knife' to a fight.
Funny how RAAM eats bullets for breakfast in the Gears games but he gets bodied by projectiles in this game
fighting game logic?
I respect that max doesn't complain about how people play against him. That Shago that he lost to would have had me tilted. I hate defensive opportunists in games. They piss me off so bad. I'm more of an in your face type of player. Which probably explains why I suck at fighting games and COD.
shot sub u be good in people face in cod
+Michael Mayers (beast mode) yeah those are the guns I'm best with, I can get a good amount of kills, but my streak is never really bigger than 5. So I'm never getting high kill streaks.
Thats how fighting games are played mate. Thats like running into a street fight full flailing your arms and then wondering why you got knocked out in a single punch (ive been there lol). Best offence is a great defence.
Seriously, though. The only reason Shago is cool is that he's a giant salt shaker in a game that sanctions salt-inducing behavior. KI revels in cheesy shit-posturing, which is part of its charm. So Shago is thematically cool.
Every time I fight against him, though, I imagine he's being played by the kind of person who is level 50, but doesn't attempt the ladder, because he wants to filter his exhibition matches for silver opponents and below. He's the kind of character that makes you hate his players, even though you know almost nothing about them.
Rashad Crump try flanking or stay indoors and dont take on a group to much and u will have put yourself in a advantage to get the kill
I think Raam may be the shittiest character in Killer Instinct from a viewer perspective.
He has two moves. Stomp and Stab. And half the time the screen in covered in bird shit so you can't even tell those apart. He's definitely cool looking, but that's only when you can actually see him through all the crap he clutters the screen with.
An' remember folks... This be from a *_VIEWER PERSPECTIVE,_* not that th' actual Raam be th' shittiest character in _KI_ period. Don't misread comments b'fore replyin', mates.
But I have to say that havin' that Kryllstorm in a certain way for an instinct makes it seem a bit 'ore interestin' than other people's instincts...
At least in me view.
eh, I really like him ^^ reminds me of stun from bloody roar primal fury
Yeah, I agree. Really wish he had some more varied animations.
Like I said in other video: he's a non flashy character in a flashy character game.
Doesn't take the fact he's powerfull tho
Stun was a badass.
But he also had more than two moves. He had actual grapples and shit that weren't some variation on "stab/stomp."
That's Raam's whole problem. He's not that visually exciting.
Every time Shago throws a fireball I hear someone angrily shouting "AND A GHERKIN!"
That why I call him Shadow Gaygo. He loves them 'pickles' ;-)
This vid title captures my experience with RAAM yesterday 100%
When other characters win, it can be impressive or at least educational. When Shago wins, it always feels like he just shit-fisted his way into it.
10:15 that Tusk outfit looks like Pilgrim Thor from that Thanksgiving episode of Southpark.
They should have made the slow tank able to actually plow through projectiles(like a real tank should do). That Shago pressure was insane.
That Raam vs Gargos match looked like a hate crime.
Candlelight vigils will held for Young Gargos who was repeatedly stomped on by a power-abusing bigot.
#PrayForGargos
+MTdaBlacking #PrayForGargos
They are both guilty of crimes against hoomanz
**The Boondocks Stomp em in The Nuts song plays in the background**
Im in a maximilian video! Im honored! even though all i did was spam fire ball (HERDERDERKEN) sorry. Much love max, always been a big fan, keep up the vids :D
No no, you mean, "ENDYERCOOKIN"
Oh my god I went back and listened and he actually says Herderderken. LMAO it sounds so silly
well, he actually says endokuken, but point taken
you did good, if you get cornered its the end for you.
Wow you're actually very smart with that Shadow Jago, keeping your distance was really smart. Spamming fire ball was essential since if he got anywhere close to you, you were going to get screwed.
One of RAAM's biggest strength is that he is scary as fuck, aesthetically and gameplay wise. You loose mentally then loose the match.
Raam with that old school A-Town stomp
Man, gotta love RAAM's "stab, throw, STOMP, STOMP" grapple. That shit is so brutal!
Thoug, I must say, as much as I love RAAM, I felt kinda bad Max had to fight a Hisako player. :( Oh well, Shadow Jago avenged her. (sort of) >:)
Gawd how I wanna see a high-tiered Aganos player against Raam now!
Noticed that at 1:46 the announcer was about to say "counter breaker" but then it changed to "combo breaker"
*KRYLL STORM* is so disorienting even the announcer was thrown off by it. XD
The weird thing is that it WAS a counter breaker. The fuck?
If you do a counter breaker before he finishs saying anything then he will stop.
If you do a counter breaker before he finishs saying anything then he will stop.
1:42 did that Gargos just deep strike Max's Raam in the foot and did that count as a low hit?
Season 3 just doubled the "Big Body" count with these guys...
Raam, defeated by the plague of KI season 1... SHADOW JAGO.
@5:46
woah what happened there? I saw there was a reversal but then it got cancelled?
woah, so raam gets you in the corner and all of a sudden your teeth are gone cause he just curb stomps the hell out of you!
In which Gargos's kryll cosplay leaves Raam unimpressed.
Love the way he yells krill storm, so badass.
I swear ki is the best fighting game to watch..the mind games are crazy
Id still say 3s
Hey Max wich program do you use to make the animations for new doods and donate panel? It's so awesome man
ram is all about ramming it in
I don't see why Zangief can't do some of this krill armor stuff with his V Skill.
Put a pink wig on Raam when he's wearing that purple armor and he looks like a less manly Zarya.
I see you here a lot. May I ask where your profile pic is from? I'm curious.
Ariel Gonzalez It's Cerebella from Skullgirls. Max did a few videos for it a long time ago but I don't think he played her.
+Ariel Gonzalez skullgirls. cerebella is the character name
N00BSYBORG
I've not a damn clue what Skullgirls is and I want Max to play it.
Ariel Gonzalez It's a fighting game that got a lot of inspiration from the MvC games. It'd be great to see Max give it another go. They added a lot of characters since he played it and its damn nice to look at.
Max really doesn't seem to be having too much fun with Raam does he?
Agreed.
Raam is a strict Grapple character and Max doesn't like Grapple characters
He isnt that much fun tbh he is all stab stab stab
+Steadyquick yeah he doesn't seem that fun to play
He is fun if you can get in but i feel guilty since he can mix people up off Knockdown
Question: How come at 3:10 Max is working in a nice combo then it looks like he's about to use a shadow move and it just stops with a weird sound-effect? (Sorry, I'm not a fighting-game guy in the slightest and I've never played K.I. I just watch Max's content.) Did Max just cancel the shadow move on purpose or was it interrupted or something?
What he did was an attempt or successful counter breaker. If the sound plays and nothing happends, then Max would've gotten punished for it. If it would of hit, Max would've gotten a free combo and the person would be locked out for a certain amount of time.
Intrigued and disgusted Skeleton with a bandana
I see, thanks for the clarification.
I think that once mods are fully supported in this game, someone should make an Apocalypse skin mod for RAAM, along with an Ultimate Warrior skin for Thunder. It seems appropriate
Watching the Shago match got me frustrated. Anyone else feel this way?
I kind of did to. He was like that one guy who spams hadoukens with Ryu in [Insert Street Fighter Game Name Here] Ranked Match all day and thinks they are better than most people.
It's sad some people won't even try anything else but the cheapest way to a victory, I mean where did all the FUN factor in games disappeared, seems that a vast majority of gamers these days just want that WIN even if they themselves don't really enjoy the path to it :/
I actually found it wise to do so since if Raam gets in he is fucked, so he played the keep away game for the most part. You could see how he tried to go in close range for a while and that only got him bodied so he went and played it safe again, its not shago´s fault that raamen cant take zoning
no he used zoneing to beat a command grab type character if that makes you mad then you might honestly want to get out of fighting games since thats the built in counter to them
He used shagos' tools to his advantage. Its just frustrating to watch.
Another great video Max. Thanks buddy!
awesome game play bro..been hooked on style play..kicka$z..
"once Raam is in its very hard to get him out" !doodstare
Hisako looks like some tiny Barbie doll next to Raam
you see Barbie very differently from the way I do.
ya i remember this, man i got a little salty that it took shadow jago to beat him, 1st one was almost a comeback, then 2nd one he just got killed. just wished it could have been someone from season 1
He finally said RAAM right. I would get so triggered when he said it wrong.
Is max gonna do crazy ultra finisher combos because I'm miss those videos
*I
+MrTBSC Yes! Thank you
Raam is so into SHANKING! And he is SOOOOO BIG
i thinks its more exciting to watch you match up against the more advanced players where you do sometimes loose game on max
Man that Shago didn't want none even if you had buns, hun.
Could anyone tell me what character in this game is most similar to Alex in SF5? He's my main in that game and my favorite fighting game character, and now that I'm getting into this game, I want to play a character I'd be more comfortable with.
Try Tj Combo
or chief thunder he has the alex stomp move and command grabs
I'll try out Chief Thunder, thanks.
Yeah, Thunder is like Alex with some weird mobility options. I'm not too familiar with Alex beyond what I've watched, though. He's like a footsy grappler, right?
Otherwise...yeah, chief Thunder is probably your closest bet to Alex. RAAM is almost there, but his footsies (while excellent) are really goddamn complicated.
When I first got to gold I versed a guy in killer that was raam and I was shadow jags and I barely clutched it and beat him I was so hype I'll never forget
Damn, poor Hisako. from 7:44 and onwards, Raam just mutilate her to her death. and those stomps man. D:
So RAAM's attacks do a lot of damage.
Good to know.
soooooo many gut stabs. Raam must really like Chitterlings.
damn, that gargos got downloaded hard
are raam's ravens like Fang's poison, it only last until hitting them or like 5-10 seconds?
yeah it's about ten seconds. Seems to hurt a lot more than Fang tho.
Max, how well have the older characters updates worked? Are they all viable characters or are some more optimal than others?
yeah most of them as are shit now
They're all still viable. Heck the older characters show up more in tournaments than the newer ones.
Don't get me wrong, I love the Gears franchise and I could understand why they used RAAM instead of Skorge. But from what I've seen, the player base for Gears is pretty low and people who haven't really played only usually picked up on the first one. Maybe RAAM would be a bit more hype if people really knew who he was and where he came from. lmao I'm pretty sure a lot of people who play KI never even knew who he is. Besides that, I don't know. Would've been nice to see more combat with the Kryll instead of the knife.
max only his shadow run beats shadow projectiles.
Every time I see Hisako I'm just left thinking "How does one punch a ghost?"
Punch the body POSSESSED by the ghost. You scare the ghost into just laying down and playing dead if you beat the shot out of her long enough.
Damn it Max, you forgot Kryll Shield can absorb unlimited ammounts of projectiles... :'(
So, to Gargos does RAAM taste slimed or like seasalt?
*slimy
Quick question, Is max ever going to go back and play Shago or hisako ?
no he's focusing on new and upcoming characters
I cant remember if he have played Shago or not but i am 99%sure he has already played Hisako, the week she came out or so
So, why is Max avoiding a week of Kim Wu?
Wassup Max? Good matches bro!
Why did they make breaks knock down again?
They haven't changed. In S3 the air/juggle combos cause knockdowns, while grounded combos don't.
Natsu Oh.
where is eyedol?
Raam gave no shit about Gargos' instinct combo breaker explosion on that last round. WTF?
max you have to let shago hang himself the majority of his attacks are unsafe and he is useless in a corner so if you get him in he has to grab or uppercut. but unfortunately raam falls to projectiles
totally not related, but I am waiting for the day for Max's stream to say "Welcome to stage of history", then Max will just scream "FUCK!" at the top of his lungs for some reason.
Shago is more flashy than cinder?
When u look at shago, just think of akuma, ur answer will be there after
+Stefan Crow Akuma + Dimitri, more accurately
+Nathan “Natethegreat225” Hernandez dammit you're right I completely forgot about that, then again I sadly don't know my darkstalkers universe well
+Stefan Crow don't worry, neither do i. I just remembered what Max says about him is all.
The Big Punch
Very Yamazaki-like, isn't he?
Is it me or does Raam look like a titan from destiny.
Go get em Max
Oh my god, these bat looking things from Raam are awful, it's impossible to see what's going on in the screen.
CEO in two days can't wait
I thought it said "Shago the DREAM Killer" for a sec.
Sounds like a dark souls boss.
am I the only one who thinks raam's running grab needs to be turned into an opener?
I guess Jago wanted payback for RAAM stabbing him
is Shago a legal character for Tournaments?
yes. but he's not as OP as people will have you believe
Thanks, yeah... I kind of know how to play against him :), just wondering... just in case
max the first fight with hisako it was 60%
People keep telling me Shadow Jago ain't OP, but in every match I see him against Max it's either close or Max gets bodied.
What happened to people using Tusk? He's awesome but i'm not seeing a lot of ppl use him now a days.
Rash players are an Endangered Species
He's hard to use.
he's too defensive for some ppl to be successful. It almost as if he is a slower more power hisako, but depending on your defense he can be godlike or he can get overwhelmed easily
True and Kan-ra is as well sadly. He was nerfed hard
*Arbiter players
STOMP 'EM IN THE NUTS
Holy shit, Hisoka is TINY compared to RAAM.
these guys are huge.
Jesus, RAAM is a fucking giant!
Did killer instinct turn into Xboxes "super smash brothers"?
Tusk's stage looks... different...?
how so ?
The lighting, I think
There was an update to the lighting effects to the stages when season 3 dropped.
i hope the next videogame gust character is Donkey Kong or someone from Rare lol
KI1 = Basically Street Fighter 2 with insane combos. You could play like street fighter and do very well.
KI2 = KI1 with new and updated characters, better graphics, and meters that meant nothing.
K13 = Strips out the deeper "Street Fighter 2"-like play aspects, Fatalities, and actual Ultra Combos, for a very dial-a-combo format. Adds Lock outs and huge character effects in more recent characters. Turning into a game it did not actually start as.
KI3 needs to dial back some of these effects. 95% damage just by piling on more effects with little to no chance to retaliate is fun to watch (Raam is a Bulldozer and I LOVE it) but can't be fair in competition. It makes a fairly inept character, like Raam (the guy has the smallest toolbox of all the characters), much too dangerous for what they are. It is like Iron Galaxy didn't really do much work to really flesh Raam out so they made him as cheap as they could get away with. It is not the first time, they just massively over power characters, nearly to the point of breaking the game, only to have to dial them back and they end up being "last week's chopped liver".
More powerful is not better. Granted this is a relatively new company literally developing the game, the characters anyway, on the fly, however work on making the characters actually better without making them overpowered despite what they are.
Then add in previous version of characters. There are, for example, 3 versions of Fulgore and Sabrewolf, you could play if they added them in. It would be awesome to be able to use KI1 Fulgore's moveset which is considerably different from KI2 and both KI3 versions.
Also get rid of or reduce those lockouts. I think the counter breaker is awesome but it needs to be at least as difficult as the a regular combo breaker, maybe make it a "struggle" or "grapple lock".
Finally put back in more normal fighting game mechanics, not just the combo-centric system, so more normal characters, such as Fulgore Jago, Orchid, who have huge movesets and less big or internalized effects (like constant healing, accelerated charge up and so on) will have a fairer chance against these newer characters, especially if the area attack effects "Krill storm" for example as not nerfed.
once RAAM is in he's hard to get out? phrasing Max phrasing
;D
Shago confirmed for Gears of War 4
More like gears 1.5 raams been dead a long time my friend 😂
I know
Shadow Jago is just such a beast, I love it
nvm he said it right once
Max stop hitting buttons when you corner Shago. He's going to try to escape and it's all reactable, but if you hit a button he's just gonna whiff punish you.
people in the comments mad about shago laming it out against max but in reality he was playing the mu how it should be he saw a weakness and took advantage of it that's how that match should have been played
Max you say it like, General ROM. Not Ram. Max pls. :3
Raam needs buff....shago can do too many projectiles one after the other,its cheap for someone like raam.
Good video bro
plz play more tusk
maximize combo damage ehhhh!!!!
I think that shago needs a nerf
In Shago's defense teleporting across the arena is insanely fun during an intermission otherwise yeah, _total_ easy button for one player and a struggle for the other 70% of the time.
This Shago is actually really.. butt. I understand the Ultimate, but the Dukens? Way to many. Isn't Shago a mix up and opener character?
While yes he is a mix-up character, he's up against Raam, a character that is immensely scary with how damaging he can be if he gets his knockdown loops going. I don't blame the Shago at ALL for staying away as much as he could, as getting in close would be playing chicken with your finger and a blender.
While Raam might be a better character, Skorge definitely fits KI better.